Afghanistan Megathread

[Mesocyclone]

GWB the fake republican he did 9/11 him and his ass partner larry silverstein he pulled the 3

2996 will get their revenge Hell is real

The Mega Powers will crumble the Twin Towers!

I shall call him Peter, a rock from space.

And the earth I shall call Wormwood.

[Ooloo]

2001: Taliban rules afghanistan
2021: Taliban rules afghanistan and has a shitload of high powered military equipment

Great job!

[Ooloo]

I guess the vietnamese didnt "win" either. They just had control of the entire country and could pick anytime and place they wanted to attack anyone in the country.

They didnt win though. American WHITE blood touched that sand we won!!! I know.. but lets face facts. We fucking lost. What RETURN did we get on that war??

NOTHING.

I mean honestly, yes that is essentially the same situation. We just left cause we decided to. Though it made more sense in vietnam because we were taking a lot of casualties. There hadn't been an american casualty in afghanistan since Feb 2020. That's not exactly a super heated combat conflict that we "lost". That's different than actually surrendering and being dissolved as an entity, like when the Nazi's lost ww2.

[Horza]

2001: Taliban rules afghanistan
2021: Taliban rules afghanistan and has a shitload of high powered military equipment

Great job!

https://i.imgur.com/E3ENqRI.jpg

[Mesocyclone]

You are fucking idiots with 0 IQ true sheeple This motherfucker ^^^ belongs in prison until RIP and Hell

His dead daddy's already in Hell

Ya'll let Bush Jr. and Hilllary get away with murder on a massive scale. Ya'll are the ones I'm sending to Hell.

FOREVER

DONT GO DYING ON ME NOW

Look, George and Hillary know goddamn well they are not going to Heaven. They are hoping like a motherfucker, that death is the end.
Joke is on them.

And every single motherfucker that knew and was complicit against their incarceration will join them in the Land of Horror.

[Ooloo]

I mean it's not like the taliban just magically got way stronger all of a sudden, we were keeping the peace there with a troop presence of only 2500. They knew we were peacing out, so they were just like welp guess we'll take back over. They couldn't even deal with 2500 american troops apparently. Not exactly the same situation as vietnam

[Mesocyclone]

You wont ignore the maker when it comes. Nah, mom and dad didn't make ya. she birthed ya, and you grew in her, but she did not MAKE you.

I took their fucking stripes loooooong ago. It's my turn to rule.

[Ooloo]

You wont ignore the maker when it comes. Nah, mom and dad didn't make ya. she birthed ya, and you grew in her, but she did not MAKE you.

I took their fucking stripes loooooong ago. It's my turn to rule.

Hi what are you talking about? Cause I can't parse any of this.

[Mesocyclone]

You need a brain. Most don't have one.

[Gravydoo II]

You wont ignore the maker when it comes. Nah, mom and dad didn't make ya. she birthed ya, and you grew in her, but she did not MAKE you.

I took their fucking stripes loooooong ago. It's my turn to rule.

LOL look how he tries to threaten people with no power... You promise your daddy is gonna come get me?

This is the extent of your gods power. An insane person rambling about how their daddy is gonna beat them up, after they die.

Doesnt look very powerful or threatening to me. Pretty laughable, really. Look at yourself.

Ohhh no a lake of fire ohh noo... and im gonna be healed every second im burning or some shit.

I got two words for you:

prove it.

Australia is real. Hell is not.

[Gravydoo II]

Hi what are you talking about? Cause I can't parse any of this.

He's giving his daddy credit for making my mom or dad horny. Hes saying that god himself was inside the sperm and steered it into the egg, himself. Thats what hes saying. Like a little, formula S (for sperm), race and hes schumacher, every time.

Then hes saying that god himself drove all the food into my moms mouth and he personally transported it through my ambilocal chord to feed me, one little food particle at a time.

Yep, hes a crazy person.

[Gravydoo II]

And every single motherfucker that knew and was complicit against their incarceration will join them in the Land of Horror.

Speaking of going to jail, lets do a comparison. These are the legal cases pending against rape daddy.
1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation and Federal Tort Claims Act Litigation

Carroll is suing Trump for defamation after he publicly accused her of fabricating a rape allegation against him. The parties are currently involved in an appeal before the Second Circuit, where Trump (and so far, the Justice Department as well) is arguing that he had official immunity from Carroll’s defamation claim under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA).

2. Summer Zervos Defamation Suit

Summer Zervos, a former contestant on the Apprentice, has filed a civil suit against former President Trump for defamation after he claimed her allegations of his inappropriate sexual conduct were lies designed to help the Clinton campaign and improve her fame. The case is currently at the New York Court of Appeals, the highest New York state court.

Update: On Mar. 30, the New York Court of Appeals denied Trump’s appeal on his motion to dismiss the case. Trump originally filed the motion claiming that a state court could not hear a suit against a sitting president. The court stated that issues were now moot, and the case can now go forward.

3. Mary Trump Fraud Litigation

Mary Trump is suing Donald Trump for defrauding her out of millions of dollars in an inheritance dispute. The suit is pending in New York state court, where the parties are currently battling over former President Trump’s move to dismiss the case.

4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation

Ithaca Capital is suing Trump’s hotel management company for fraud in federal court. Primarily, Ithaca claims that Trump representatives exaggerated the value of a Panama hotel during Ithaca’s negotiations to purchase it.

5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class Action

A group of anonymous plaintiffs have filed a class action against the Trump family and their business, alleging that the Trumps used their brand to scam investors into paying for worthless business opportunities. The district court denied the Trumps’ bid to force the case into arbitration, and the Trumps are now appealing.

6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds

In a non-criminal suit, the DC Attorney General is suing several Trump-affiliated entities for misusing inauguration funds to enrich Trump’s family business. The suit is currently in discovery before DC’s local court, where the AG’s office is deposing key Trump executives, notably including his children.

7. Reps. Karen Bass et al. Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack

Ten members of the House of Representatives, represented by the NAACP, are suing Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and two right wing militia groups for conspiring to forcibly prevent Congress from counting the Electoral College votes on Jan. 6.

8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

On Mar. 5, 2021, Representative Eric Swalwell sued Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump Jr., and Congressman Mo Brooks in federal court over the Jan. 6 riots. Swalwell alleges that the defendants violated federal civil rights laws–including the Ku Klux Klan Act–when they conspired to interfere with the Electoral College Count on Jan 6. Beyond that, Swalwell also says the defendants should be held liable for negligently violating DC criminal codes on incitement, encouraging the rioters’ violent conduct, and intentionally inflicting emotional distress on members of Congress.

9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

Two Capitol Police officers–both on duty during the Jan. 6 insurrection–sued Donald Trump for injuries they sustained while protecting the Capitol. Both allege that the rioters physically attacked them with fists, chemical spray, and other weapons. They allege that the former president, by his incendiary words and conduct, directed the physical attack and emotional distress.

10. Second Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

A second group of Capitol Police officers filed suit against Trump, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and other affiliates involved in allegedly planning and executing the Jan. 6 riots. The seven officers claim that they were physically and emotionally injured by attackers that Trump instigated, and that Trump and his co-defendants conspired to disrupt congressional business in the certification of electoral votes.

11. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case for Post-Election Actions

The LDF is suing Trump, the Trump Campaign, and the RNC for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election in violation of the Voting Rights Act and the Ku Klux Klan Act. While the litigation is still at its early stages, Trump faces damages and a declaratory judgment that he did indeed violate these provisions of the law.

12. New York Attorney General’s Civil and Criminal Investigations

Since Mar. 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James has been investigating allegations that the Trump Organization altered property values to avoid tax liabilities. The investigation began after Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen provided congressional testimony that Trump engaged in fraud. In Oct. 2020, James’s office deposed Eric Trump, and in Jan. 2021 a state court judge ruled that Trump’s tax attorneys must turn over thousands of documents.

Update: On May 18, 2021, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”

13. Scotland Unexplained Wealth Orders

The Scottish Parliament voted to reject calls from the opposition party, the Scottish Greens, to investigate the Trump Organization’s golf courses through an Unexplained Wealth Order (UWO). UWOs are a mechanism designed to prevent suspected corrupt foreign officials from laundering potentially stolen funds into the UK. They require an individual or organization to reveal the sources of their unexplained wealth and, while they do not automatically trigger criminal proceedings, they can result at least in confiscation of assets.

On Aug. 11, 2021, Lord Sandison of the Scottish Court of Session ruled the petition seeking “judicial review of the approach of the Scottish ministers in determining whether to apply to the court for UWOs” should “proceed without condition or restriction.” He ruled that their case has “real prospects of success.” Scotland’s High Court will likely hear the case later this year.

14. Criminal Investigations into Trump’s Finances

During his presidency, the Manhattan District Attorney investigated Trump’s finances. Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance recently gained access to Trump’s tax information in the course of a criminal investigation into potential tax crimes, insurance fraud, and other financial crimes under state law. Criminal charges have not been filed.

Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that prosecutors have subpoenaed Mr. Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.

Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include an investigation of a loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income.

Update-3: Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges,” the Washington Post reported on May 25, 2021. “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”

Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify.

Update-5: The DA charged the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer Weisselberg on Thursday, July 1 for an alleged 15-year-long tax fraud scheme. The indictment includes reference to an “unindicted coconspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.

15. DC AG Incitement Criminal Investigation

The DC Attorney General, Karl Racine, has announced a criminal investigation into Trump’s alleged role in provoking the Jan. 6th riots. No charges have been filed, though Racine’s office is reportedly looking into a local DC code that makes it a misdemeanor to incite violence.

16. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation

The Fulton County DA’s Office has opened a criminal investigation into attempted election interference by Trump. The DA’s Office has requested that all official and unofficial emails concerning the election be preserved and has reportedly also planned to look into a call between Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as part of the investigation as well as Rudy Giuliani’s potential false statements to Georgia officials.

Update-1: Officials are reportedly expected to seek a grand jury subpoena the week of March 1, 2021 for documents and witnesses connected to the investigation.

Update-2: On Mar. 11, a recording of a call between then-President Trump and the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, Frances Watson, was released by the Wall Street Journal. On the call, Trump urged Watson to look for fraud in mail-in ballots. The Fulton County DA’s Office has said that they will request a copy of the phone call.

Update-3: As of Mar. 28, there are reportedly two grand juries considering subpoenas for documents relevant to the investigation.

CIVIL CASES

1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation Suit
Carroll v. Trump, No. 20-cv-07311, 2020 WL 6277814 (S.D.N.Y. Oct. 27, 2020), appeal docketed, No. 20-03977 (2d Cir. Nov. 25, 2020)

Plaintiff: E. Jean Carroll, a journalist and advice columnist

Case Summary: In 2019, Carroll publicly accused then-President Trump of sexually assaulting her in a New York City department store in the 1990s. A few hours later, Trump denied Carroll’s allegation and accused her of fabricating the story to drum up publicity for her upcoming book. Carroll then sued Trump for defamation in New York state court, alleging that Trump defamed her when he publicly accused her of falsifying the assault story.

After nearly a year of state court proceedings–and with Carroll’s counsel angling to sample Trump’s DNA–the Justice Department moved to intervene on Trump’s behalf under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA). This move threatened to quash the suit. In effect, the FTCA (as amended by the Westfall Act) provides blanket immunity to federal employees who commit certain torts–including defamation–arising out of their official duties. According to the DOJ, the president’s official duties include speaking to the press about public matters–which would mean that Trump had immunity from any defamatory statements he made about Carroll.

The DOJ’s intervention also derailed the state court proceedings: because FTCA claims must be litigated in federal court, Carroll’s suit was automatically removed to the Southern District of New York (SDNY). In federal court, Carroll argued that Trump’s statements were not protected by the FTCA. In short, Carroll contended that (i) Trump was not covered by the FTCA because the president is not an “employee”; and (ii) Trump’s statements about Carroll fell outside of his official presidential duties.

On both counts, the court agreed. Though removal was irreversible, the court held that the FTCA did not cover Trump’s actions, so Carroll’s defamation suit could proceed against Trump in his personal capacity. Acting separately, the DOJ and Trump both appealed. Trump also requested the court stay the district court proceedings until that appeal is resolved.

Case Status: In the SDNY proceedings, the parties filed opposing memoranda on Trump’s motion to stay in Dec. 2020. The court has not yet ruled on that issue. If the court denies the motion, Carroll’s defamation claim could proceed at the same time as the Second Circuit hears Trump’s appeal on FTCA immunity.

At the Second Circuit, the DOJ and Trump filed separate opening briefs on Jan. 15, 2021. Carroll’s attorneys then requested an Apr. 16, 2021 due date for their brief. Notably, her counsel explicitly selected that date so the Biden DOJ would have time to reassess the Trump administration’s position that Trump was acting within the scope of his employment when he allegedly defamed Carroll. The Second Circuit granted that scheduling request.

Update: Carroll filed her brief on Apr. 16, 2021, urging the appeals court to uphold the decision below.

Update: Despite the change in administration, the Biden DOJ filed a reply brief on June 7, 2021, that backed Trump’s argument that the FTCA covered his conduct. It echoed the core arguments from the Trump DOJ’s opening brief that the president is an “employee” under the FTCA and that elected officials act within the scope of their employment when they respond to media inquiries.

2. Summer Zervos Defamation Suit
Zervos vs. Trump, No. 150522/2017 (N.Y. Sup Ct. Jan. 17, 2017), appeal docketed, No. APL-2020-00009 (N.Y. Mar. 9, 2020)

Plaintiff: Summer Zervos, former contestant on the Apprentice

Case Summary: On Jan. 17, 2017, Zervos filed a suit in New York State Court against Trump for defamation. During Trump’s campaign, many women, including Zervos, accused Trump of inappropriate sexual conduct. In her complaint against Trump, Zervos claims that in 2007, while she sought employment from Trump, he kissed her on the lips and touched her inappropriately. After she rejected his advances, his attitude became very business-like and he later offered her a job for half the salary she was seeking. She attempted to contact Trump, noting that she felt she was being “penalized for not sleeping with him.” Trump said he could not discuss it with her at the time. Zervos says she decided to come forward with these allegations after the Billy Bush Access Hollywood Tape showed Trump speaking in a derogatory manner toward women. In response to her allegations, Trump claims she was lying and was only making these accusations to help the Clinton campaign or to get fame.

Zervos alleges that, as a result of Trump’s claims, she has suffered both emotional and financial harm.

Case Status: Trump filed a motion to dismiss and a stay for the duration of his presidency. On Oct. 3, 2018, the court denied Trump’s motion, finding that, if the facts alleged by the plaintiff are true, she has a reasonable claim to recover for defamation. The court also found that there were no federalism or comity concerns that would suggest that a state court could not hear suit against the sitting president for nonofficial acts. A panel of New York appellate judges affirmed this judgment in Oct. 2019, finding that the president is “not above the law” and that the defamation suit can go forward.

This motion has been appealed to the New York Court of Appeals, the highest New York state court.

Pending the decision from the New York Court of Appeals, in Mar. 2020, the court ruled that Zervos cannot “dig for evidence” in the interim. In 2021, with Trump out of office, Zervos has filed a motion to move the lawsuit forward.

Update: On Mar. 30, the New York Court of Appeals denied Trump’s appeal on his motion to dismiss the case. Trump originally filed the motion claiming that a state court could not hear a suit against a sitting president. The court stated, in a one-sentence order, that issues were now moot, and the case can now go forward.

3. Mary Trump Fraud Litigation
Trump v. Trump, No. 654698/2020 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. filed Sept. 24, 2020)

Plaintiff: Mary Trump, the former president’s niece

Case Summary: In Sept. 2020, Mary Trump sued Donald Trump, her uncle, for allegedly defrauding her out of tens of millions of dollars. When Mary’s father–Donald Trump’s brother–died in 1981, he left Mary a valuable stake in the Trump property empire. Mary was a minor at the time, so Donald Trump and his siblings took control of her share, ostensibly to look after Mary’s interest over the long run.

But according to Mary, that didn’t happen. In her lawsuit, she alleges that the Trump siblings siphoned off revenue from her share and set up an ongoing scheme to artificially devalue her assets. This went on for nearly two decades. Then, when Trump patriarch Fred Sr. (Donald Trump’s father) died in 1999, Mary took issue with the terms of his will. The Trump siblings immediately pushed back and started maneuvering to force Mary out of the family holdings altogether. After lengthy probate proceedings, and with Mary’s legal fees steadily climbing, the siblings delivered an ultimatum: they would not settle the probate case unless Mary relinquished all interests in the family fortune, including those from her late father.

According to Mary, the Trumps offered a settlement figure that woefully undervalued her share of the family holdings. Still, she ultimately accepted a settlement in Apr. 2001, apparently still unaware she was being sold short.

Then, over fifteen years later, the New York Times broke its 2018 story that the Trump Organization had long been fraudulently manipulating the values of its assets. From there, Mary says she realized that she had settled for tens of millions of dollars less than what her stake was actually worth.

Two years later, Mary published a book accusing the Trumps of shorting her out of her rightful share. She then filed this lawsuit in New York state court on Sept. 24, 2020, accusing Donald Trump and his siblings of fraud and breach of fiduciary duty.

Case Status: Trump moved to dismiss the case on Jan. 4, 2021. Mary filed a response on Feb. 26, 2021. As of August 2021, the court has not yet ruled on the motion.

4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation
Ithaca Cap. Invs. v. Trump Pan. Hotel Mgmt., No. 18-cv-00390 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 30, 2020)

Plaintiff: Ithaca Capital, a real estate holding company that purchased a majority of the Trump International Hotel in Panama

Case Summary: Donald Trump’s private hotel business–Trump International Hotels Management–is embroiled in federal litigation over a hotel management deal gone bad. Until 2018, Trump International operated a luxury hotel in Panama. As was its standard business practice, Trump International contracted with a separate owner to provide management services and use of the “Trump” label. When a prior owner went bankrupt in 2015, Ithaca Capital moved to purchase a majority of the hotel’s units. But per Ithaca, Trump representatives made a series of fraudulent claims that oversold the hotel’s profitability. Unaware, Ithaca went ahead with the purchase.

The hotel soon ran into financial trouble, and the relationship between the two parties collapsed. Once Ithaca ended the partnership, it claims to have discovered that Trump International had allegedly underreported costs, diverted hotel revenue, and failed to pay income taxes.

After a brief round of arbitration proceedings, Ithaca sued Trump International in the Southern District of New York. Ithaca made several claims against Trump. First, Ithaca argued that Trump representatives–including Eric and Donald Jr.–made exaggerated claims about the hotel’s value. Second, they argued that Trump International breached their agreement by mismanaging the hotel. And third, Ithaca asserted that Trump International improperly diverted hotel revenues for their own use.

Case Status: Trump International challenged each of Ithaca’s claims and asserted several counterclaims of its own. On Mar. 30, 2020, the district court upheld all three of Ithaca’s claims and dismissed all but one of Trump’s counterclaims. Trumps’ remaining counterclaim–for tortious interference–alleges that Ithaca interfered with Trump’s other hotel contracts when Ithaca forced him out of their partnership.

The parties are currently in discovery and are due to finish by Fall 2021.

5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class Action
Doe v. Trump Corp., No. 18-cv-09936 (S.D.N.Y. Oct 29, 2018), appeal docketed, No. 20-01706 (2d Cir. May 28, 2020)

Plaintiffs: (Anonymous) Jane Doe, Luke Loe, Mary Moe, Richard Roe

Case Summary: On Oct. 30, 2018, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Trump Corporation, Donald Trump, Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Eric Trump. The complaint alleges that the defendants used their brand name to defraud thousands of working class individuals by promoting numerous businesses in exchange for “secret payments.” The companies include ACN Opportunity, LLC (a business based on a controversial multi-level marketing scheme), the Trump Network, LLC (another multi-level marketing scheme), and Business Strategies Group, LLC (a seminar claiming to sell the Trump secrets to success). The lawsuit also claims that the defendants are liable for a “pattern of racketeering activity” violating the RICO Act (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) as well as activity violating numerous state consumer protection laws concerning fair business practices and competition.

On July 24, 2019, the District Court judge partially granted the defendants’ motion to dismiss. The judge dismissed the RICO claims because the Complaint did not “sufficiently plead that Defendants’ conduct was the proximate cause of Plaintiffs’ losses.” However, she ruled that the other claims concerning the state laws will not be dismissed under Class Action Fairness Act (CAFA).

Case Status: The Trumps’ moved to compel forced arbitration and the district court judge denied the motion in Apr. 2020. The court held that the defendants were not party to the arbitration agreement (between ACN and the plaintiffs) and thus, could not compel arbitration. She also found that the motion to compel arbitration was in bad faith as they are acting in a manner that is “substantively prejudicial towards the plaintiffs” and not within the spirit of the Federal Arbitration Act (FAA). The Trumps have filed an interlocutory appeal to the Second Circuit.

Following the denial of compelled arbitration, the Trumps also filed a motion to stay, or a motion to halt the legal process. The district court denied this motion, citing the four traditional factors that must be balanced when granting a stay and finding that the defendants have not met the requirements to grant a stay.

6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds
District of Columbia v. 58th Presidential Inauguration Comm., No. 2020-CA-00488-B (D.C. Super. Ct. Sept. 9, 2020)

Prosecuting Office: DC Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: In the run-up to Trump’s 2017 swearing-in, his inaugural committee raised a record $107 million to spend on inauguration festivities. As a nonprofit, the inaugural committee was bound to use these charitable funds for the public good, namely by organizing events to celebrate the 2017 presidential inauguration.

But as the DC AG alleges, the inaugural committee used over $1 million of those funds in an improper bid to enrich the Trump family’s private businesses. DC’s attorneys are now suing the inaugural committee, the Trump International Hotel, and the Trump Organization over that alleged misspending. Chief among the allegations, the DC AG claims that the committee paid exorbitant rates to rent space in the Trump International Hotel in downtown DC. The committee, for instance, allegedly paid $175,000 to rent the main ballroom on the same day that another nonprofit paid only $5,000–a rate 35 times higher. On top of that, the committee allegedly ignored much better deals available at other upscale locations, settling instead on overpaying for space at the Trump location.

The DC AG frames these payments as an under-the-table attempt to divert charitable funds to the Trumps’ private holdings. The complaint focuses on possible misconduct by committee executive Rick Gates, who also held key roles in the Trump campaign. (Gates would later cooperate with the Mueller investigation.) To tie in the Trump entities, the complaint asserts that the Trump businesses knew it was overcharging the non-profit committee, and points to internal negotiations between the parties that allegedly show both sides were aware of the extreme rates. The DC AG is asking the court to compel the Trump business to put the misspent funds into a trust where they can be put toward charitable purposes.

Case Status: The defendants–the committee itself along with the two Trump businesses–moved to dismiss the suit, but the district court denied that motion in Sept. 2020. On Jan. 11, 2021, the DC AG added a new allegation that the committee improperly used its nonprofit funds to pay a hotel bill on behalf of Trump’s private business. The suit is currently in discovery, and the AG’s office has already deposed several high-level Trump executives, including Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

Update: The DC AG moved for summary judgment on Mar. 24, 2021. All three defendants responded by filing their own motions for summary judgment on Apr. 8, 2021.

Update: On July 28, 2021 in a 3-0 decision, the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the district court’s judgement and ruled that the Trump family could not compel arbitration. The court found that since there was no “close relationship” between Trumps and ACN such that the plaintiffs could reasonably infer that their arbitration agreement extended to the Trumps. Thus, the court concluded, the “defendants are not entitled to compel the plaintiffs to arbitrate this dispute.” As of August 2021, the court has not yet ruled on the summary judgment motions.

7. Karen Bass et al. Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
Thompson v. Trump, No. 21-cv-00400 (D.D.C. filed Feb. 16, 2021)

Plaintiff: Rep. Karen R. Bass, Rep. Stephen I. Cohen, Rep. Veronica Escobar, Rep. Pramila Jayapal, Rep. Henry C. Johnson, Jr., Rep. Marcia C. Kaptur, Rep. Barbara J. Lee, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, Rep. Maxine Waters, and Rep. Bonnie M. Watson Coleman, represented by the NAACP

Case Summary: On Feb. 16, 2021, Mississippi Congressman Bennie Thompson sued former President Trump and Rudy Giuliani along with two right-wing militia groups known as the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, for violating the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, 42 U.S.C. § 1985(1). In the complaint, Thompson alleges that Trump violated the Ku Klux Klan Act by inciting the rioters with the intent to prevent Members of Congress from discharging their official duties of the timely approval of the Electoral College vote. He argues that after Trump’s loss in the Nov. 2020 election, the then-President set out on a campaign to mobilize his supporters, culminating in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. It portrays Trump’s rhetoric on the morning of Jan. 6 as a call to arms and as intended to prevent the certification of the election.

The Act was passed in 1871 in response to violence and intimidation by the KKK intended to stop Black people from voting. The legislation allows Members of Congress to sue individuals who conspire to violently “molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede” the discharge of a public official’s duties.

Thompson seeks compensatory damages for his emotional distress suffered during the attack in addition to punitive damages.

Case Status: The complaint was filed on Feb. 16, 2021 with defendants’ summonses attached. According to the summonses, defendants’ answers are due in late April. On Apr. 7, 2021, ten additional members of Congress moved to join the lawsuit as plaintiffs.

Update: On July 21, 2021, Rep. Thompson announced that he would withdraw from the lawsuit to avoid any conflict with the Jan. 6 House Select Committee, which Thompson is chairing. The other plaintiffs–all members of Congress who are not on the Committee–confirmed that they would continue the lawsuit.

Update: On July



8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
Swalwell v. Trump, No 21-cv-00586 (D.D.C. filed Mar. 5, 2021)

Plaintiff: Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA)

Case Summary: On Mar. 5, 2021, Representative Eric Swalwell sued Donald Trump and several associates in DC federal court over the Jan. 6 riots. Much like Representative Bennie Thompson’s related suit, Swalwell alleges that Trump and his co-defendants–Donald Trump Jr., Representative Mo Brooks (R-AL), and Rudy Giuliani–violated the Ku Klux Klan Act by conspiring to interfere with the Electoral College count on Jan. 6.

Swalwell’s suit also goes one step further: it claims that the defendants should be held civilly liable for negligence because they committed criminal incitement under DC’s local code, which establishes the standard of care. Notably, Swalwell says that Trump violated the same DC code–§22-1321(a)(2)–that DC AG Karl Racine is apparently focusing on in his own criminal investigation into Trump’s conduct.

Beyond the civil rights and incitement counts, Swalwell also claims that the defendants are liable for encouraging (aiding and abetting) the rioters’ violent conduct and for intentionally inflicting emotional distress on members of Congress in connection with the attack on the Capitol.

Case Status: Swalwell filed his complaint on Mar. 5, 2021.

Update: On May 17, 2021, Giuliani filed a motion to dismiss the claims against him. He argued that his speech did not qualify as incitement, that he never formed a conspiracy with the other defendants or the rioters, and that his speech was ultimately protected by the First Amendment.

Update: On May 24, 2021, Donald Trump and his son Donald Jr. filed their own motion to dismiss. Most notably, former President Trump argued that he had absolute immunity against Swalwell’s claims because Trump’s alleged misconduct was within the scope of his official duties as president. Both Trump and Trump Jr. also contended that their speech was protected under the First Amendment and the canonical Brandenburg test. The Trumps also advanced various other arguments ranging from standing to the political question doctrine to even a claim that Swalwell was barred from suing Trump over the same conduct for which Trump was acquitted at his impeachment trial.

Update: On July 1, 2021, Swalwell filed a motion for default judgment against Brooks, arguing that Brooks had missed the deadline to respond to the lawsuit. Brooks responded with his own motion urging the court to dismiss the lawsuit because he was acting within the “scope of his employment,” which would essentially block the case under the Westfall Act. The district court denied Swalwell’s motion for a default judgment on July 5 but has not yet ruled on Brooks’s motion.

Update: On July 27, 2021, the Justice Department submitted a brief stating that Brooks was not acting within the scope of his employment and thus not shielded by the Westfall Act. The House of Representatives filed a response taking a “non-participation approach” (silence) on the question whether Brooks acted within his scope of employment. The Chairwoman of the Committee on House Administration submitted a brief stating that Rep. Brooks was not acting within his scope of employment.

9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
Blassingame v. Trump, No. 21-cv-00858 (D.D.C. filed Mar. 30, 2021)

Plaintiff: James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby, two Capitol police officers

Case Summary: On Mar. 30, 2021, two Capitol Police Officers sued Donald Trump for injuries they sustained during the Jan. 6 riots in DC. The officers–James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby–say they were maced with bear spray, attacked with fists and flagpoles, and even crushed against a door as they tried to protect the Capitol from pro-Trump intruders.

Much like the other Jan. 6 suits against Trump, the officers pin their injuries on Trump’s incendiary rhetoric before and during violence. Both allege that Trump directed the rioters to assault them, aided the rioters in committing those assaults, and negligently incited the riot in violation of DC’s public safety codes. Blassingame also accuses Trump of directing intentional infliction of emotional distress, pointing to the racial slurs and taunts that the intruders allegedly hurled at him during the violence.

Case Status: The officers filed their suit in DC federal court on Mar. 30, 2021. On Apr. 28, 2021, the plaintiffs added two new conspiracy claims against Trump, one based on the KKK Act and the other on common law conspiracy. They allege that Trump illegally conspired with the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers to storm the Capitol, which in turn caused the plaintiffs’ injuries.

Update: Donald Trump filed a motion to dismiss on June 24, 2021.

10. Second Capitol Police Suit over the Jan. 6 Riots
Smith v. Trump, No. 21-cv-02265 (D.D.C. filed Aug. 26, 2021)

Plaintiff: Seven Capitol Police officers

Case Summary: On Aug. 26, 2021, a second group of Capitol Police officers filed suit over injuries they suffered while defending the Capitol on Jan. 6. The officers allege that Trump and his co-defendants–including the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers–conspired to incite a riot and attack the Capitol, leaving the officers physically and emotionally injured.

Like the other Jan. 6 lawsuits against Trump, the complaint asserts that Trump violated the KKK Act by conspiring to instigate the riots. The complaint also alleges that unnamed defendants–listed as “John Does” who carried out the attack–physically assaulted the officers at Trump’s provocation, which could make Trump liable for the officers’ injuries.

The plaintiffs also add in a unique claim not found in other Jan. 6 lawsuits against Trump: that the defendants violated the DC Bias-Related Crimes Act, a local hate-crime statute. According to the complaint, the defendants were motivated by political bias against the Democratic Party when they instigated and executed the Capitol attack.

Case Status: The officers filed their suit in DC federal court on Aug 26, 2021.

11. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case
Mich. Welfare Rights Org. v. Trump, No. 20-cv-03388 (D.D.C. filed Nov. 20, 2020)

Plaintiff: Michigan Welfare Rights Organization and the NAACP, represented by the NAACP Legal Defense & Educational Fund (LDF).

Case Summary: On Nov. 20, 2020, LDF sued then-President Trump and the Trump campaign alleging that their post-election conduct violated Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act, 52 U.S.C. § 10307(b). After losing the election, Trump spent weeks pressuring Republican election officials not to certify the election—in particular, the complaint examines the actions of Wayne County Repulican election officials who first voted not to certify the election, though they eventually did. Section 11(b) forbids intimidation of voters, those aiding voters, and certain election officials. Voting is broadly defined in the Voting Rights Act, covering “all action necessary to make a vote effective[,] … including … having such ballot counted properly and included in the appropriate totals of votes cast.”

In Dec. 2020, the complaint was amended to include the NAACP as a plaintiff, the Republican National Committee as a defendant, and alleged a new claim: that defendants violated the Ku Klux Klan Act, which prohibits conspiracies to deprive someone of equal protection under law or the right to vote. 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3). LDF argues that Trump’s efforts to discard votes in cities with large Black populations meets the statutory definition.

LDF seeks statutory damages, a declaratory judgment, and injunctive relief that would prevent defendants from intimidating voters and election officials in the future.

Case Status: On Feb. 25, defendants moved to dismiss the case. They had a variety of arguments, including that the case was filed in the wrong court, that the cited statutes do not allow a private party to bring litigation, and that their conduct did not violate the statutes.

12. NY Civil Suit over Fraudulent Real Estate Practices
People v. Trump Org., No. 451685/2020 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. Dec. 15, 2020)

Plaintiff: New York Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: In Mar. 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James launched a civil probe investigating allegations that the Trump organization inflated and deflated property values to avoid tax liability and for other financial benefits. She began her investigation after Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen testified before Congress that Trump had engaged in fraud. While there is some overlap, James has noted that her investigation differs from and is independent of the Manhattan DA criminal investigation.

Much of her probe has focused on Seven Springs, a Trump-owned property in New York. In Dec. 2019, James subpoenaed the Trump Organization, seeking records related to a $21 million tax deduction that Trump claimed against the property in 2015. Per her court filings, James is exploring whether Trump improperly inflated the property’s value to boost the size of the tax benefit.

James is also looking into other transactions relating to Trump properties. She is investigating whether Trump failed to pay taxes on debt forgiven during the financial restructuring of the Trump Hotel & Tower in Chicago and the appraisal of the LA Trump National Golf Club used for his conservation tax break, which was substantially higher than metrics typically used to value golf properties.

Case Status: In connection with the Seven Springs subpoenas, James’s office deposed Eric Trump in Oct. 2020. She also sought related records held by Trump’s tax lawyers. His counsel initially refused to produce them, claiming they were shielded by attorney-client privilege. The state court judge disagreed, ruling on Jan. 29, 2021 that the tax attorneys must turn over thousands of documents about the tax deductions.

Update: On May 18, 2021, Fabien Levy, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”



13. Scotland Unexplained Wealth Orders
Plaintiff: Avaaz Foundation against the Scottish Ministers and Others

Case Summary: On February 3, 2021, the Scottish Parliament voted to reject calls from the opposition party, the Scottish Greens, to investigate the Trump Organization’s golf courses through an Unexplained Wealth Order (UWO). UWOs are a mechanism designed to prevent suspected corrupt foreign officials from laundering potentially stolen funds into the UK. They require an individual or organization to reveal the sources of their unexplained wealth and, while they do not automatically trigger criminal proceedings, they can result at least in confiscation of assets. The concerns that led to the push to investigate Trump arose when Trump spent many hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase and refurbish golf courses within Scotland with all-cash transactions. This was particularly suspicious since Trump had financed large scale purchases with debt prior to these transactions. It is disputed whether Eric Trump made a statement indicating that the funds had come from Russia.

The co-leader of the Scottish Greens stated, “Scotland cannot be a country where anyone with the money can buy whatever land and property they want, no questions asked, and the Scottish Greens will continue to challenge vested interests that protect people like Trump rather than our communities.” Eric Trump criticized the suit, stating that “at a critical time when politicians should be focused on saving lives and reopening businesses in Scotland, they are focused on advancing their personal agendas.”

Case Status: The non-profit global rights pressure group, Avaaz Foundation, sought to challenge the Scottish Parliament vote and, in May, filed a petition in the highest civil court in Scotland to review the decision not to pursue a UWO. On Aug. 11, 2021, Lord Sandison of the Scottish Court of Session ruled the petition seeking “judicial review of the approach of the Scottish ministers in determining whether to apply to the court for UWOs” should “proceed without condition or restriction.” He ruled that their case has “real prospects of success.” Scotland’s High Court will likely hear the case later this year.



CRIMINAL CASES

14. Criminal Investigations into Trump’s Finances
Trump v. Deutsche Bank, No. 19-cv-03826 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 29, 2019)

Trump v. Vance, No. 19-cv-08694 (S.D.N.Y. Sept. 19, 2019)

Prosecuting Office: In 2019, then-President Trump sued to block subpoenas issued by three House Committees and the Manhattan District Attorney seeking his financial information in 2019. As of Feb. 22, the Manhattan DA now has access to Trump’s tax information.

Case Summary: In 2019, the House Intelligence and Finance Committees issued subpoenas to both Deutsche Bank and Capital One seeking information about then-President Trump’s finances. Before the banks complied with the subpoenas, Trump sued, seeking a declaratory judgment that they were unenforceable and an injunction that would have prevented the banks from disclosing Trump’s financial information. In addition, the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed Mazars, Trump’s accounting firm, demanding additional accounting information. Trump again sued to block the subpoena.

In parallel, Manhattan District Attorney, Cyrus Vance Jr., subpoenaed Mazars, for access to Trump’s tax records. Trump again sued to prevent the disclosure of this information.

All three cases reached the Supreme Court, where they were decided on the same day, July 9, 2020. The congressional subpoenas were combined into one case, and were remanded so the lower courts could consider separation of powers concerns raised by congressional committees subpoenaing a sitting president. In the Vance case, the Court ruled that a president’s financial information could be subpoenaed by a local district attorney.

Case Status: With the seating of the new Congress in Jan. 2021, the Congressional subpoenas expired. The Vance subpoena again reached the Supreme Court, which on Feb. 22, refused to block it. His spokesperson has confirmed that the office now has access to Trump’s tax returns, including millions of pages of documents. Charges have not been filed.

Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that Vance’s office has subpoenaed Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.

Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include investigation of a $130 million loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income, as required by the IRS.

Update-3: On May, 25, 2021, the Washington Post reported that Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges.” According to the Post, “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”

Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify.

Update-5: On July 1, prosecutors indicted the Trump Organization and the chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg with running a tax fraud scheme for over fifteen years. The indictment charges Weisselberg, the Trump Organization, and the Trump Payroll Co. with compensating Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives with off-the-books funds that were unreported or misreported to federal, state, and local tax authorities.

The indictment includes a reference to the former President. It states that “as part of the scheme to defraud, Trump Corporation personnel … arranged for tuition expenses for Weisselberg’s family members to be paid by personal checks drawn on the account of and signed by Donald J. ‘Trump.” The indictment also refers to an “unindicted co-conspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.

15. DC Attorney General Incitement Investigation for Attack on U.S. Capitol
Prosecuting Office: DC Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: DC Attorney General Karl Racine has said he is exploring whether to charge Trump with incitement. So far, his office has focused on a DC statute that makes it a misdemeanor to “incite or provoke violence where there is a likelihood that such violence will ensue.” Presumably, DC prosecutors are looking into Trump’s statements and tweets before and during the riot, gauging whether they amount to criminal incitement.

That said, Racine has cautioned that prosecuting Trump would be an uphill battle. Though the former president no longer could claim presidential immunity, the First Amendment may still shield his speech from prosecution. Under Brandenburg–the controlling case here–a speaker can be prosecuted for incitement only when their speech is both intended and likely to cause imminent lawless action. This is a notoriously difficult standard to meet, especially on the intent side. Even though some rioters have claimed they were following Trump’s instructions, Racine would need to actually prove it was Trump’s actual goal for them to do so. Despite the trail of incriminating statements Trump left behind, Racine may still have trouble meeting such a high bar.

Not only that, Racine has limited options in terms of what offenses he can charge. Because DC splits criminal jurisdiction with the U.S. government, Racine’s office can enforce only low-level crimes. As a result, he cannot charge Trump with arguably more applicable felonies, and is effectively limited to DC’s incitement statute. And as defense attorneys in DC have noted, this misdemeanor offense is typically charged in street-level disorderly conduct cases, arguably making it a poor fit.

Case Status: Racine’s office is investigating Trump’s conduct but has not filed charges.

Note: In the Department of Justice investigations, prosecutors are apparently more focused on charging the rioters themselves rather than investigating the former president. Though DC’s top federal prosecutor refused to rule out criminally investigating Trump, nothing since then has suggested a federal probe is in the works. Justice Department officials have reportedly debated whether to open a criminal investigation of Trump associate, Roger Stone.

16. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation
Prosecuting Office: Fulton County, GA District Attorney’s Office.

Case Summary: On Feb. 10, 2021, the Fulton County DA’s Office opened an investigation into attempted election interference by former President Trump. The investigation is looking into potential violations of Georgia election laws, including the “solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office and any involvement in violence or threats related to the election’s administration.”

Case Status: On Feb. 10, 2021, the Fulton County DA’s Office sent letters to Governor Brian Kemp, Lieutenant Governor Duncan, Secretary of State Raffensperger, and Attorney General Carr informing them of the new investigation and requesting that all records relating to the election, including emails sent by employees from non-government accounts, be preserved.


There are the legal cases pending against Hillary "Super murderer" Clinton

none.

[Whale biologist]

Haha they didn't "win" shit, we just left. Not exactly the same thing as defeating the enemy. Like, at all. The military absolutely could have gotten all our shit out of there before we left, but biden said nah fuck it let them have it all. True strategic genius that one.

The mental gymnastics you go through to defend that impotent, spineless president are truly amazing. Even TRUMP was better than him, and he wasn't even that good. I'm not some trump fanboy at all.

A real president would have said "We are leaving, and we are taking all of our equipment, and if you so much as fire a single bullet we will obliterate you, so fuck off. That is called strength. We still have the most powerful military in the world, there's just no excuse for how badly biden handled it.

Oh noooo, Afghan security forces have the same weapons and equipment as American police. :eek:

Like how are they supposed to interdict ISIS and other terrorists without anything?

[Mesocyclone]

I know your hidden secrets. They will be revealed before the throne of God.

[Jibartik]

Oh noooo, Afghan security forces have the same weapons and equipment as American police. :eek:

Like how are they supposed to interdict ISIS and other terrorists without anything?

The American police buying used military equipment has been a huge problem for the left, or are we punting on that too so we can own the rape daddy?

I live in a toilet bowl.

Not to mention the fact that the American police dont have Bradley's and Blackhawks and 50 cal mounted attack helecoptors.

I thought you were the fact checkerest person here whale~!

[Horza]

“Can al-Qaeda come back? Yeah. But guess what, it's already back other places. What's your strategy? Every place that al-Qaeda is, we're gonna invade and have troops staying there? C'mon,” POTUS tells pool reporters.

[Jibartik]

“Can al-Qaeda come back? Yeah. But guess what, it's already back other places. What's your strategy? Every place that al-Qaeda is, we're gonna invade and have troops staying there? C'mon,” POTUS tells pool reporters.

To bad for mr cmon man it was trump that got us out.

[Ooloo]

Oh noooo, Afghan security forces have the same weapons and equipment as American police. :eek:

Like how are they supposed to interdict ISIS and other terrorists without anything?

What are you talking about "afghan security forces"?? The taliban? Lol they ARE the terrorists. The "afghan security forces" totally bailed and the ones who were captured by the taliban were immediately executed. That's kinda my point. Giving billions in military equipment to the terroristy nation on earth is, kind of a bad idea!

But sure, the american police and the literal TALIBAN are basically the same thing. Totally fair compairson. Cause ya know, the police rape their wives and eachother's daughters and keep them in a permanent state of servitude forever.

[Jibartik]

Trump releases prisoners

Liberals lose their minds

Biden arms the prisoners with 50x times more military equipment 50x more powerful than anything whale biologist suggests the American police have.

Liberals try to justify it by saying American police have them and it's not a problem.

LOL

[Jibartik]

Libs be like "I'm empathetic!"

Anyone: "hey people are being tortured in a far off land"

Libs be like "yo straight up fuck those people"

[Horza]

Libs be like "I'm empathetic!"

Anyone: "hey people are being tortured in a far off land"

Libs be like "yo straight up fuck those people"

Please, sir, I want some more (decades of occupation and hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths).

[Jibartik]

strawman

red herring.

At least you almost had an idea.

[Whale biologist]

The American police buying used military equipment has been a huge problem for the left, or are we punting on that too so we can own the rape daddy?

I live in a toilet bowl.

Not to mention the fact that the American police dont have Bradley's and Blackhawks and 50 cal mounted attack helecoptors.

I thought you were the fact checkerest person here whale~!

They don't buy it, they get it free under Section 1033 of the Defense Logistics Agency. It's a good thing.

What are you talking about "afghan security forces"?? The taliban? Lol they ARE the terrorists. The "afghan security forces" totally bailed and the ones who were captured by the taliban were immediately executed. That's kinda my point. Giving billions in military equipment to the terroristy nation on earth is, kind of a bad idea!

But sure, the american police and the literal TALIBAN are basically the same thing. Totally fair compairson. Cause ya know, the police rape their wives and eachother's daughters and keep them in a permanent state of servitude forever.

Part of Trump's deal with them was to leave equipment behind for them to use against ISIS and other US enemies. It's a necessary thing.

[Whale biologist]

If American police were fighting ISIS, I'd want them to have Blackhawks.

But they aren't.

[Jibartik]

It's a good thing.

Not a chance in hell I believe you actually believe any of that trash you just posted.

yV4lbomgJ8M

[Whale biologist]

Not a chance in hell I believe you actually believe any of that trash you just posted.

https://i.imgur.com/qAj4GAM.jpeg

[Gravydoo II]

Libs be like "I'm empathetic!"

Anyone: "hey people are being tortured in a far off land"

Libs be like "yo straight up fuck those people"

Your religion is based off "listen to us or we will torture you in this life and in the next, you'll be tortured FOREVER if you dont agree with my daddy."

Remember what whole like, 1900 year span where christians mercilessly slaughtered anyone who was not christian enough? Lol you guys were the inquisition. Yeah, thats your religion.

The one that burns people alive because they are "witches" or gay. Dont tell me they still dont go to africa every year and brainwash people with their bullshit then you get states were being gay is illegal and you'll be killed by the state of the mob, whoever gets you first.

Thats the legacy of christians. Hate, death, ignorance, and stupidity. Weird how they started hanging out with all the christians from the USA back in the early 2000's and now we entire countries of gay hating people.

Way to leave the world better than you found it, you fucking pieces of shit. =]

[Jibartik]

What religion is mine again?

[Baler]

What religion is mine again?

ForumQuest

Belated grats on level 8

[Gravydoo II]

What religion is mine again?

the one that wants to violate womens rights =]
their rights.
its their right.
they are allowed to.
Its their right.

[Ooloo]

I wonder if the taliban are vaccinated??!

Boy I hope they're okay.

[Ooloo]

the one that wants to violate womens rights =]
their rights.
its their right.
they are allowed to.
Its their right.

Muslim men are allowed to beat their wives, and in some cases kill them if they get raped by somebody else. They are allowed to. It's their right.

(this is the part where you examine why what you said and what I said both make no sense. Or you can call me some kind of "phobe" and bail)

[Swish]

Speaking of going to jail, lets do a comparison. These are the legal cases pending against rape daddy.
1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation and Federal Tort Claims Act Litigation

Carroll is suing Trump for defamation after he publicly accused her of fabricating a rape allegation against him. The parties are currently involved in an appeal before the Second Circuit, where Trump (and so far, the Justice Department as well) is arguing that he had official immunity from Carroll’s defamation claim under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA).

2. Summer Zervos Defamation Suit

Summer Zervos, a former contestant on the Apprentice, has filed a civil suit against former President Trump for defamation after he claimed her allegations of his inappropriate sexual conduct were lies designed to help the Clinton campaign and improve her fame. The case is currently at the New York Court of Appeals, the highest New York state court.

Update: On Mar. 30, the New York Court of Appeals denied Trump’s appeal on his motion to dismiss the case. Trump originally filed the motion claiming that a state court could not hear a suit against a sitting president. The court stated that issues were now moot, and the case can now go forward.

3. Mary Trump Fraud Litigation

Mary Trump is suing Donald Trump for defrauding her out of millions of dollars in an inheritance dispute. The suit is pending in New York state court, where the parties are currently battling over former President Trump’s move to dismiss the case.

4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation

Ithaca Capital is suing Trump’s hotel management company for fraud in federal court. Primarily, Ithaca claims that Trump representatives exaggerated the value of a Panama hotel during Ithaca’s negotiations to purchase it.

5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class Action

A group of anonymous plaintiffs have filed a class action against the Trump family and their business, alleging that the Trumps used their brand to scam investors into paying for worthless business opportunities. The district court denied the Trumps’ bid to force the case into arbitration, and the Trumps are now appealing.

6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds

In a non-criminal suit, the DC Attorney General is suing several Trump-affiliated entities for misusing inauguration funds to enrich Trump’s family business. The suit is currently in discovery before DC’s local court, where the AG’s office is deposing key Trump executives, notably including his children.

7. Reps. Karen Bass et al. Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack

Ten members of the House of Representatives, represented by the NAACP, are suing Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and two right wing militia groups for conspiring to forcibly prevent Congress from counting the Electoral College votes on Jan. 6.

8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

On Mar. 5, 2021, Representative Eric Swalwell sued Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump Jr., and Congressman Mo Brooks in federal court over the Jan. 6 riots. Swalwell alleges that the defendants violated federal civil rights laws–including the Ku Klux Klan Act–when they conspired to interfere with the Electoral College Count on Jan 6. Beyond that, Swalwell also says the defendants should be held liable for negligently violating DC criminal codes on incitement, encouraging the rioters’ violent conduct, and intentionally inflicting emotional distress on members of Congress.

9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

Two Capitol Police officers–both on duty during the Jan. 6 insurrection–sued Donald Trump for injuries they sustained while protecting the Capitol. Both allege that the rioters physically attacked them with fists, chemical spray, and other weapons. They allege that the former president, by his incendiary words and conduct, directed the physical attack and emotional distress.

10. Second Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

A second group of Capitol Police officers filed suit against Trump, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and other affiliates involved in allegedly planning and executing the Jan. 6 riots. The seven officers claim that they were physically and emotionally injured by attackers that Trump instigated, and that Trump and his co-defendants conspired to disrupt congressional business in the certification of electoral votes.

11. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case for Post-Election Actions

The LDF is suing Trump, the Trump Campaign, and the RNC for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election in violation of the Voting Rights Act and the Ku Klux Klan Act. While the litigation is still at its early stages, Trump faces damages and a declaratory judgment that he did indeed violate these provisions of the law.

12. New York Attorney General’s Civil and Criminal Investigations

Since Mar. 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James has been investigating allegations that the Trump Organization altered property values to avoid tax liabilities. The investigation began after Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen provided congressional testimony that Trump engaged in fraud. In Oct. 2020, James’s office deposed Eric Trump, and in Jan. 2021 a state court judge ruled that Trump’s tax attorneys must turn over thousands of documents.

Update: On May 18, 2021, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”

13. Scotland Unexplained Wealth Orders

The Scottish Parliament voted to reject calls from the opposition party, the Scottish Greens, to investigate the Trump Organization’s golf courses through an Unexplained Wealth Order (UWO). UWOs are a mechanism designed to prevent suspected corrupt foreign officials from laundering potentially stolen funds into the UK. They require an individual or organization to reveal the sources of their unexplained wealth and, while they do not automatically trigger criminal proceedings, they can result at least in confiscation of assets.

On Aug. 11, 2021, Lord Sandison of the Scottish Court of Session ruled the petition seeking “judicial review of the approach of the Scottish ministers in determining whether to apply to the court for UWOs” should “proceed without condition or restriction.” He ruled that their case has “real prospects of success.” Scotland’s High Court will likely hear the case later this year.

14. Criminal Investigations into Trump’s Finances

During his presidency, the Manhattan District Attorney investigated Trump’s finances. Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance recently gained access to Trump’s tax information in the course of a criminal investigation into potential tax crimes, insurance fraud, and other financial crimes under state law. Criminal charges have not been filed.

Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that prosecutors have subpoenaed Mr. Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.

Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include an investigation of a loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income.

Update-3: Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges,” the Washington Post reported on May 25, 2021. “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”

Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify.

Update-5: The DA charged the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer Weisselberg on Thursday, July 1 for an alleged 15-year-long tax fraud scheme. The indictment includes reference to an “unindicted coconspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.

15. DC AG Incitement Criminal Investigation

The DC Attorney General, Karl Racine, has announced a criminal investigation into Trump’s alleged role in provoking the Jan. 6th riots. No charges have been filed, though Racine’s office is reportedly looking into a local DC code that makes it a misdemeanor to incite violence.

16. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation

The Fulton County DA’s Office has opened a criminal investigation into attempted election interference by Trump. The DA’s Office has requested that all official and unofficial emails concerning the election be preserved and has reportedly also planned to look into a call between Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as part of the investigation as well as Rudy Giuliani’s potential false statements to Georgia officials.

Update-1: Officials are reportedly expected to seek a grand jury subpoena the week of March 1, 2021 for documents and witnesses connected to the investigation.

Update-2: On Mar. 11, a recording of a call between then-President Trump and the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, Frances Watson, was released by the Wall Street Journal. On the call, Trump urged Watson to look for fraud in mail-in ballots. The Fulton County DA’s Office has said that they will request a copy of the phone call.

Update-3: As of Mar. 28, there are reportedly two grand juries considering subpoenas for documents relevant to the investigation.

CIVIL CASES

1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation Suit
Carroll v. Trump, No. 20-cv-07311, 2020 WL 6277814 (S.D.N.Y. Oct. 27, 2020), appeal docketed, No. 20-03977 (2d Cir. Nov. 25, 2020)

Plaintiff: E. Jean Carroll, a journalist and advice columnist

Case Summary: In 2019, Carroll publicly accused then-President Trump of sexually assaulting her in a New York City department store in the 1990s. A few hours later, Trump denied Carroll’s allegation and accused her of fabricating the story to drum up publicity for her upcoming book. Carroll then sued Trump for defamation in New York state court, alleging that Trump defamed her when he publicly accused her of falsifying the assault story.

After nearly a year of state court proceedings–and with Carroll’s counsel angling to sample Trump’s DNA–the Justice Department moved to intervene on Trump’s behalf under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA). This move threatened to quash the suit. In effect, the FTCA (as amended by the Westfall Act) provides blanket immunity to federal employees who commit certain torts–including defamation–arising out of their official duties. According to the DOJ, the president’s official duties include speaking to the press about public matters–which would mean that Trump had immunity from any defamatory statements he made about Carroll.

The DOJ’s intervention also derailed the state court proceedings: because FTCA claims must be litigated in federal court, Carroll’s suit was automatically removed to the Southern District of New York (SDNY). In federal court, Carroll argued that Trump’s statements were not protected by the FTCA. In short, Carroll contended that (i) Trump was not covered by the FTCA because the president is not an “employee”; and (ii) Trump’s statements about Carroll fell outside of his official presidential duties.

On both counts, the court agreed. Though removal was irreversible, the court held that the FTCA did not cover Trump’s actions, so Carroll’s defamation suit could proceed against Trump in his personal capacity. Acting separately, the DOJ and Trump both appealed. Trump also requested the court stay the district court proceedings until that appeal is resolved.

Case Status: In the SDNY proceedings, the parties filed opposing memoranda on Trump’s motion to stay in Dec. 2020. The court has not yet ruled on that issue. If the court denies the motion, Carroll’s defamation claim could proceed at the same time as the Second Circuit hears Trump’s appeal on FTCA immunity.

At the Second Circuit, the DOJ and Trump filed separate opening briefs on Jan. 15, 2021. Carroll’s attorneys then requested an Apr. 16, 2021 due date for their brief. Notably, her counsel explicitly selected that date so the Biden DOJ would have time to reassess the Trump administration’s position that Trump was acting within the scope of his employment when he allegedly defamed Carroll. The Second Circuit granted that scheduling request.

Update: Carroll filed her brief on Apr. 16, 2021, urging the appeals court to uphold the decision below.

Update: Despite the change in administration, the Biden DOJ filed a reply brief on June 7, 2021, that backed Trump’s argument that the FTCA covered his conduct. It echoed the core arguments from the Trump DOJ’s opening brief that the president is an “employee” under the FTCA and that elected officials act within the scope of their employment when they respond to media inquiries.

2. Summer Zervos Defamation Suit
Zervos vs. Trump, No. 150522/2017 (N.Y. Sup Ct. Jan. 17, 2017), appeal docketed, No. APL-2020-00009 (N.Y. Mar. 9, 2020)

Plaintiff: Summer Zervos, former contestant on the Apprentice

Case Summary: On Jan. 17, 2017, Zervos filed a suit in New York State Court against Trump for defamation. During Trump’s campaign, many women, including Zervos, accused Trump of inappropriate sexual conduct. In her complaint against Trump, Zervos claims that in 2007, while she sought employment from Trump, he kissed her on the lips and touched her inappropriately. After she rejected his advances, his attitude became very business-like and he later offered her a job for half the salary she was seeking. She attempted to contact Trump, noting that she felt she was being “penalized for not sleeping with him.” Trump said he could not discuss it with her at the time. Zervos says she decided to come forward with these allegations after the Billy Bush Access Hollywood Tape showed Trump speaking in a derogatory manner toward women. In response to her allegations, Trump claims she was lying and was only making these accusations to help the Clinton campaign or to get fame.

Zervos alleges that, as a result of Trump’s claims, she has suffered both emotional and financial harm.

Case Status: Trump filed a motion to dismiss and a stay for the duration of his presidency. On Oct. 3, 2018, the court denied Trump’s motion, finding that, if the facts alleged by the plaintiff are true, she has a reasonable claim to recover for defamation. The court also found that there were no federalism or comity concerns that would suggest that a state court could not hear suit against the sitting president for nonofficial acts. A panel of New York appellate judges affirmed this judgment in Oct. 2019, finding that the president is “not above the law” and that the defamation suit can go forward.

This motion has been appealed to the New York Court of Appeals, the highest New York state court.

Pending the decision from the New York Court of Appeals, in Mar. 2020, the court ruled that Zervos cannot “dig for evidence” in the interim. In 2021, with Trump out of office, Zervos has filed a motion to move the lawsuit forward.

Update: On Mar. 30, the New York Court of Appeals denied Trump’s appeal on his motion to dismiss the case. Trump originally filed the motion claiming that a state court could not hear a suit against a sitting president. The court stated, in a one-sentence order, that issues were now moot, and the case can now go forward.

3. Mary Trump Fraud Litigation
Trump v. Trump, No. 654698/2020 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. filed Sept. 24, 2020)

Plaintiff: Mary Trump, the former president’s niece

Case Summary: In Sept. 2020, Mary Trump sued Donald Trump, her uncle, for allegedly defrauding her out of tens of millions of dollars. When Mary’s father–Donald Trump’s brother–died in 1981, he left Mary a valuable stake in the Trump property empire. Mary was a minor at the time, so Donald Trump and his siblings took control of her share, ostensibly to look after Mary’s interest over the long run.

But according to Mary, that didn’t happen. In her lawsuit, she alleges that the Trump siblings siphoned off revenue from her share and set up an ongoing scheme to artificially devalue her assets. This went on for nearly two decades. Then, when Trump patriarch Fred Sr. (Donald Trump’s father) died in 1999, Mary took issue with the terms of his will. The Trump siblings immediately pushed back and started maneuvering to force Mary out of the family holdings altogether. After lengthy probate proceedings, and with Mary’s legal fees steadily climbing, the siblings delivered an ultimatum: they would not settle the probate case unless Mary relinquished all interests in the family fortune, including those from her late father.

According to Mary, the Trumps offered a settlement figure that woefully undervalued her share of the family holdings. Still, she ultimately accepted a settlement in Apr. 2001, apparently still unaware she was being sold short.

Then, over fifteen years later, the New York Times broke its 2018 story that the Trump Organization had long been fraudulently manipulating the values of its assets. From there, Mary says she realized that she had settled for tens of millions of dollars less than what her stake was actually worth.

Two years later, Mary published a book accusing the Trumps of shorting her out of her rightful share. She then filed this lawsuit in New York state court on Sept. 24, 2020, accusing Donald Trump and his siblings of fraud and breach of fiduciary duty.

Case Status: Trump moved to dismiss the case on Jan. 4, 2021. Mary filed a response on Feb. 26, 2021. As of August 2021, the court has not yet ruled on the motion.

4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation
Ithaca Cap. Invs. v. Trump Pan. Hotel Mgmt., No. 18-cv-00390 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 30, 2020)

Plaintiff: Ithaca Capital, a real estate holding company that purchased a majority of the Trump International Hotel in Panama

Case Summary: Donald Trump’s private hotel business–Trump International Hotels Management–is embroiled in federal litigation over a hotel management deal gone bad. Until 2018, Trump International operated a luxury hotel in Panama. As was its standard business practice, Trump International contracted with a separate owner to provide management services and use of the “Trump” label. When a prior owner went bankrupt in 2015, Ithaca Capital moved to purchase a majority of the hotel’s units. But per Ithaca, Trump representatives made a series of fraudulent claims that oversold the hotel’s profitability. Unaware, Ithaca went ahead with the purchase.

The hotel soon ran into financial trouble, and the relationship between the two parties collapsed. Once Ithaca ended the partnership, it claims to have discovered that Trump International had allegedly underreported costs, diverted hotel revenue, and failed to pay income taxes.

After a brief round of arbitration proceedings, Ithaca sued Trump International in the Southern District of New York. Ithaca made several claims against Trump. First, Ithaca argued that Trump representatives–including Eric and Donald Jr.–made exaggerated claims about the hotel’s value. Second, they argued that Trump International breached their agreement by mismanaging the hotel. And third, Ithaca asserted that Trump International improperly diverted hotel revenues for their own use.

Case Status: Trump International challenged each of Ithaca’s claims and asserted several counterclaims of its own. On Mar. 30, 2020, the district court upheld all three of Ithaca’s claims and dismissed all but one of Trump’s counterclaims. Trumps’ remaining counterclaim–for tortious interference–alleges that Ithaca interfered with Trump’s other hotel contracts when Ithaca forced him out of their partnership.

The parties are currently in discovery and are due to finish by Fall 2021.

5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class Action
Doe v. Trump Corp., No. 18-cv-09936 (S.D.N.Y. Oct 29, 2018), appeal docketed, No. 20-01706 (2d Cir. May 28, 2020)

Plaintiffs: (Anonymous) Jane Doe, Luke Loe, Mary Moe, Richard Roe

Case Summary: On Oct. 30, 2018, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Trump Corporation, Donald Trump, Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Eric Trump. The complaint alleges that the defendants used their brand name to defraud thousands of working class individuals by promoting numerous businesses in exchange for “secret payments.” The companies include ACN Opportunity, LLC (a business based on a controversial multi-level marketing scheme), the Trump Network, LLC (another multi-level marketing scheme), and Business Strategies Group, LLC (a seminar claiming to sell the Trump secrets to success). The lawsuit also claims that the defendants are liable for a “pattern of racketeering activity” violating the RICO Act (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) as well as activity violating numerous state consumer protection laws concerning fair business practices and competition.

On July 24, 2019, the District Court judge partially granted the defendants’ motion to dismiss. The judge dismissed the RICO claims because the Complaint did not “sufficiently plead that Defendants’ conduct was the proximate cause of Plaintiffs’ losses.” However, she ruled that the other claims concerning the state laws will not be dismissed under Class Action Fairness Act (CAFA).

Case Status: The Trumps’ moved to compel forced arbitration and the district court judge denied the motion in Apr. 2020. The court held that the defendants were not party to the arbitration agreement (between ACN and the plaintiffs) and thus, could not compel arbitration. She also found that the motion to compel arbitration was in bad faith as they are acting in a manner that is “substantively prejudicial towards the plaintiffs” and not within the spirit of the Federal Arbitration Act (FAA). The Trumps have filed an interlocutory appeal to the Second Circuit.

Following the denial of compelled arbitration, the Trumps also filed a motion to stay, or a motion to halt the legal process. The district court denied this motion, citing the four traditional factors that must be balanced when granting a stay and finding that the defendants have not met the requirements to grant a stay.

6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds
District of Columbia v. 58th Presidential Inauguration Comm., No. 2020-CA-00488-B (D.C. Super. Ct. Sept. 9, 2020)

Prosecuting Office: DC Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: In the run-up to Trump’s 2017 swearing-in, his inaugural committee raised a record $107 million to spend on inauguration festivities. As a nonprofit, the inaugural committee was bound to use these charitable funds for the public good, namely by organizing events to celebrate the 2017 presidential inauguration.

But as the DC AG alleges, the inaugural committee used over $1 million of those funds in an improper bid to enrich the Trump family’s private businesses. DC’s attorneys are now suing the inaugural committee, the Trump International Hotel, and the Trump Organization over that alleged misspending. Chief among the allegations, the DC AG claims that the committee paid exorbitant rates to rent space in the Trump International Hotel in downtown DC. The committee, for instance, allegedly paid $175,000 to rent the main ballroom on the same day that another nonprofit paid only $5,000–a rate 35 times higher. On top of that, the committee allegedly ignored much better deals available at other upscale locations, settling instead on overpaying for space at the Trump location.

The DC AG frames these payments as an under-the-table attempt to divert charitable funds to the Trumps’ private holdings. The complaint focuses on possible misconduct by committee executive Rick Gates, who also held key roles in the Trump campaign. (Gates would later cooperate with the Mueller investigation.) To tie in the Trump entities, the complaint asserts that the Trump businesses knew it was overcharging the non-profit committee, and points to internal negotiations between the parties that allegedly show both sides were aware of the extreme rates. The DC AG is asking the court to compel the Trump business to put the misspent funds into a trust where they can be put toward charitable purposes.

Case Status: The defendants–the committee itself along with the two Trump businesses–moved to dismiss the suit, but the district court denied that motion in Sept. 2020. On Jan. 11, 2021, the DC AG added a new allegation that the committee improperly used its nonprofit funds to pay a hotel bill on behalf of Trump’s private business. The suit is currently in discovery, and the AG’s office has already deposed several high-level Trump executives, including Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

Update: The DC AG moved for summary judgment on Mar. 24, 2021. All three defendants responded by filing their own motions for summary judgment on Apr. 8, 2021.

Update: On July 28, 2021 in a 3-0 decision, the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the district court’s judgement and ruled that the Trump family could not compel arbitration. The court found that since there was no “close relationship” between Trumps and ACN such that the plaintiffs could reasonably infer that their arbitration agreement extended to the Trumps. Thus, the court concluded, the “defendants are not entitled to compel the plaintiffs to arbitrate this dispute.” As of August 2021, the court has not yet ruled on the summary judgment motions.

7. Karen Bass et al. Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
Thompson v. Trump, No. 21-cv-00400 (D.D.C. filed Feb. 16, 2021)

Plaintiff: Rep. Karen R. Bass, Rep. Stephen I. Cohen, Rep. Veronica Escobar, Rep. Pramila Jayapal, Rep. Henry C. Johnson, Jr., Rep. Marcia C. Kaptur, Rep. Barbara J. Lee, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, Rep. Maxine Waters, and Rep. Bonnie M. Watson Coleman, represented by the NAACP

Case Summary: On Feb. 16, 2021, Mississippi Congressman Bennie Thompson sued former President Trump and Rudy Giuliani along with two right-wing militia groups known as the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, for violating the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, 42 U.S.C. § 1985(1). In the complaint, Thompson alleges that Trump violated the Ku Klux Klan Act by inciting the rioters with the intent to prevent Members of Congress from discharging their official duties of the timely approval of the Electoral College vote. He argues that after Trump’s loss in the Nov. 2020 election, the then-President set out on a campaign to mobilize his supporters, culminating in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. It portrays Trump’s rhetoric on the morning of Jan. 6 as a call to arms and as intended to prevent the certification of the election.

The Act was passed in 1871 in response to violence and intimidation by the KKK intended to stop Black people from voting. The legislation allows Members of Congress to sue individuals who conspire to violently “molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede” the discharge of a public official’s duties.

Thompson seeks compensatory damages for his emotional distress suffered during the attack in addition to punitive damages.

Case Status: The complaint was filed on Feb. 16, 2021 with defendants’ summonses attached. According to the summonses, defendants’ answers are due in late April. On Apr. 7, 2021, ten additional members of Congress moved to join the lawsuit as plaintiffs.

Update: On July 21, 2021, Rep. Thompson announced that he would withdraw from the lawsuit to avoid any conflict with the Jan. 6 House Select Committee, which Thompson is chairing. The other plaintiffs–all members of Congress who are not on the Committee–confirmed that they would continue the lawsuit.

Update: On July



8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
Swalwell v. Trump, No 21-cv-00586 (D.D.C. filed Mar. 5, 2021)

Plaintiff: Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA)

Case Summary: On Mar. 5, 2021, Representative Eric Swalwell sued Donald Trump and several associates in DC federal court over the Jan. 6 riots. Much like Representative Bennie Thompson’s related suit, Swalwell alleges that Trump and his co-defendants–Donald Trump Jr., Representative Mo Brooks (R-AL), and Rudy Giuliani–violated the Ku Klux Klan Act by conspiring to interfere with the Electoral College count on Jan. 6.

Swalwell’s suit also goes one step further: it claims that the defendants should be held civilly liable for negligence because they committed criminal incitement under DC’s local code, which establishes the standard of care. Notably, Swalwell says that Trump violated the same DC code–§22-1321(a)(2)–that DC AG Karl Racine is apparently focusing on in his own criminal investigation into Trump’s conduct.

Beyond the civil rights and incitement counts, Swalwell also claims that the defendants are liable for encouraging (aiding and abetting) the rioters’ violent conduct and for intentionally inflicting emotional distress on members of Congress in connection with the attack on the Capitol.

Case Status: Swalwell filed his complaint on Mar. 5, 2021.

Update: On May 17, 2021, Giuliani filed a motion to dismiss the claims against him. He argued that his speech did not qualify as incitement, that he never formed a conspiracy with the other defendants or the rioters, and that his speech was ultimately protected by the First Amendment.

Update: On May 24, 2021, Donald Trump and his son Donald Jr. filed their own motion to dismiss. Most notably, former President Trump argued that he had absolute immunity against Swalwell’s claims because Trump’s alleged misconduct was within the scope of his official duties as president. Both Trump and Trump Jr. also contended that their speech was protected under the First Amendment and the canonical Brandenburg test. The Trumps also advanced various other arguments ranging from standing to the political question doctrine to even a claim that Swalwell was barred from suing Trump over the same conduct for which Trump was acquitted at his impeachment trial.

Update: On July 1, 2021, Swalwell filed a motion for default judgment against Brooks, arguing that Brooks had missed the deadline to respond to the lawsuit. Brooks responded with his own motion urging the court to dismiss the lawsuit because he was acting within the “scope of his employment,” which would essentially block the case under the Westfall Act. The district court denied Swalwell’s motion for a default judgment on July 5 but has not yet ruled on Brooks’s motion.

Update: On July 27, 2021, the Justice Department submitted a brief stating that Brooks was not acting within the scope of his employment and thus not shielded by the Westfall Act. The House of Representatives filed a response taking a “non-participation approach” (silence) on the question whether Brooks acted within his scope of employment. The Chairwoman of the Committee on House Administration submitted a brief stating that Rep. Brooks was not acting within his scope of employment.

9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
Blassingame v. Trump, No. 21-cv-00858 (D.D.C. filed Mar. 30, 2021)

Plaintiff: James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby, two Capitol police officers

Case Summary: On Mar. 30, 2021, two Capitol Police Officers sued Donald Trump for injuries they sustained during the Jan. 6 riots in DC. The officers–James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby–say they were maced with bear spray, attacked with fists and flagpoles, and even crushed against a door as they tried to protect the Capitol from pro-Trump intruders.

Much like the other Jan. 6 suits against Trump, the officers pin their injuries on Trump’s incendiary rhetoric before and during violence. Both allege that Trump directed the rioters to assault them, aided the rioters in committing those assaults, and negligently incited the riot in violation of DC’s public safety codes. Blassingame also accuses Trump of directing intentional infliction of emotional distress, pointing to the racial slurs and taunts that the intruders allegedly hurled at him during the violence.

Case Status: The officers filed their suit in DC federal court on Mar. 30, 2021. On Apr. 28, 2021, the plaintiffs added two new conspiracy claims against Trump, one based on the KKK Act and the other on common law conspiracy. They allege that Trump illegally conspired with the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers to storm the Capitol, which in turn caused the plaintiffs’ injuries.

Update: Donald Trump filed a motion to dismiss on June 24, 2021.

10. Second Capitol Police Suit over the Jan. 6 Riots
Smith v. Trump, No. 21-cv-02265 (D.D.C. filed Aug. 26, 2021)

Plaintiff: Seven Capitol Police officers

Case Summary: On Aug. 26, 2021, a second group of Capitol Police officers filed suit over injuries they suffered while defending the Capitol on Jan. 6. The officers allege that Trump and his co-defendants–including the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers–conspired to incite a riot and attack the Capitol, leaving the officers physically and emotionally injured.

Like the other Jan. 6 lawsuits against Trump, the complaint asserts that Trump violated the KKK Act by conspiring to instigate the riots. The complaint also alleges that unnamed defendants–listed as “John Does” who carried out the attack–physically assaulted the officers at Trump’s provocation, which could make Trump liable for the officers’ injuries.

The plaintiffs also add in a unique claim not found in other Jan. 6 lawsuits against Trump: that the defendants violated the DC Bias-Related Crimes Act, a local hate-crime statute. According to the complaint, the defendants were motivated by political bias against the Democratic Party when they instigated and executed the Capitol attack.

Case Status: The officers filed their suit in DC federal court on Aug 26, 2021.

11. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case
Mich. Welfare Rights Org. v. Trump, No. 20-cv-03388 (D.D.C. filed Nov. 20, 2020)

Plaintiff: Michigan Welfare Rights Organization and the NAACP, represented by the NAACP Legal Defense & Educational Fund (LDF).

Case Summary: On Nov. 20, 2020, LDF sued then-President Trump and the Trump campaign alleging that their post-election conduct violated Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act, 52 U.S.C. § 10307(b). After losing the election, Trump spent weeks pressuring Republican election officials not to certify the election—in particular, the complaint examines the actions of Wayne County Repulican election officials who first voted not to certify the election, though they eventually did. Section 11(b) forbids intimidation of voters, those aiding voters, and certain election officials. Voting is broadly defined in the Voting Rights Act, covering “all action necessary to make a vote effective[,] … including … having such ballot counted properly and included in the appropriate totals of votes cast.”

In Dec. 2020, the complaint was amended to include the NAACP as a plaintiff, the Republican National Committee as a defendant, and alleged a new claim: that defendants violated the Ku Klux Klan Act, which prohibits conspiracies to deprive someone of equal protection under law or the right to vote. 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3). LDF argues that Trump’s efforts to discard votes in cities with large Black populations meets the statutory definition.

LDF seeks statutory damages, a declaratory judgment, and injunctive relief that would prevent defendants from intimidating voters and election officials in the future.

Case Status: On Feb. 25, defendants moved to dismiss the case. They had a variety of arguments, including that the case was filed in the wrong court, that the cited statutes do not allow a private party to bring litigation, and that their conduct did not violate the statutes.

12. NY Civil Suit over Fraudulent Real Estate Practices
People v. Trump Org., No. 451685/2020 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. Dec. 15, 2020)

Plaintiff: New York Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: In Mar. 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James launched a civil probe investigating allegations that the Trump organization inflated and deflated property values to avoid tax liability and for other financial benefits. She began her investigation after Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen testified before Congress that Trump had engaged in fraud. While there is some overlap, James has noted that her investigation differs from and is independent of the Manhattan DA criminal investigation.

Much of her probe has focused on Seven Springs, a Trump-owned property in New York. In Dec. 2019, James subpoenaed the Trump Organization, seeking records related to a $21 million tax deduction that Trump claimed against the property in 2015. Per her court filings, James is exploring whether Trump improperly inflated the property’s value to boost the size of the tax benefit.

James is also looking into other transactions relating to Trump properties. She is investigating whether Trump failed to pay taxes on debt forgiven during the financial restructuring of the Trump Hotel & Tower in Chicago and the appraisal of the LA Trump National Golf Club used for his conservation tax break, which was substantially higher than metrics typically used to value golf properties.

Case Status: In connection with the Seven Springs subpoenas, James’s office deposed Eric Trump in Oct. 2020. She also sought related records held by Trump’s tax lawyers. His counsel initially refused to produce them, claiming they were shielded by attorney-client privilege. The state court judge disagreed, ruling on Jan. 29, 2021 that the tax attorneys must turn over thousands of documents about the tax deductions.

Update: On May 18, 2021, Fabien Levy, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”



13. Scotland Unexplained Wealth Orders
Plaintiff: Avaaz Foundation against the Scottish Ministers and Others

Case Summary: On February 3, 2021, the Scottish Parliament voted to reject calls from the opposition party, the Scottish Greens, to investigate the Trump Organization’s golf courses through an Unexplained Wealth Order (UWO). UWOs are a mechanism designed to prevent suspected corrupt foreign officials from laundering potentially stolen funds into the UK. They require an individual or organization to reveal the sources of their unexplained wealth and, while they do not automatically trigger criminal proceedings, they can result at least in confiscation of assets. The concerns that led to the push to investigate Trump arose when Trump spent many hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase and refurbish golf courses within Scotland with all-cash transactions. This was particularly suspicious since Trump had financed large scale purchases with debt prior to these transactions. It is disputed whether Eric Trump made a statement indicating that the funds had come from Russia.

The co-leader of the Scottish Greens stated, “Scotland cannot be a country where anyone with the money can buy whatever land and property they want, no questions asked, and the Scottish Greens will continue to challenge vested interests that protect people like Trump rather than our communities.” Eric Trump criticized the suit, stating that “at a critical time when politicians should be focused on saving lives and reopening businesses in Scotland, they are focused on advancing their personal agendas.”

Case Status: The non-profit global rights pressure group, Avaaz Foundation, sought to challenge the Scottish Parliament vote and, in May, filed a petition in the highest civil court in Scotland to review the decision not to pursue a UWO. On Aug. 11, 2021, Lord Sandison of the Scottish Court of Session ruled the petition seeking “judicial review of the approach of the Scottish ministers in determining whether to apply to the court for UWOs” should “proceed without condition or restriction.” He ruled that their case has “real prospects of success.” Scotland’s High Court will likely hear the case later this year.



CRIMINAL CASES

14. Criminal Investigations into Trump’s Finances
Trump v. Deutsche Bank, No. 19-cv-03826 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 29, 2019)

Trump v. Vance, No. 19-cv-08694 (S.D.N.Y. Sept. 19, 2019)

Prosecuting Office: In 2019, then-President Trump sued to block subpoenas issued by three House Committees and the Manhattan District Attorney seeking his financial information in 2019. As of Feb. 22, the Manhattan DA now has access to Trump’s tax information.

Case Summary: In 2019, the House Intelligence and Finance Committees issued subpoenas to both Deutsche Bank and Capital One seeking information about then-President Trump’s finances. Before the banks complied with the subpoenas, Trump sued, seeking a declaratory judgment that they were unenforceable and an injunction that would have prevented the banks from disclosing Trump’s financial information. In addition, the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed Mazars, Trump’s accounting firm, demanding additional accounting information. Trump again sued to block the subpoena.

In parallel, Manhattan District Attorney, Cyrus Vance Jr., subpoenaed Mazars, for access to Trump’s tax records. Trump again sued to prevent the disclosure of this information.

All three cases reached the Supreme Court, where they were decided on the same day, July 9, 2020. The congressional subpoenas were combined into one case, and were remanded so the lower courts could consider separation of powers concerns raised by congressional committees subpoenaing a sitting president. In the Vance case, the Court ruled that a president’s financial information could be subpoenaed by a local district attorney.

Case Status: With the seating of the new Congress in Jan. 2021, the Congressional subpoenas expired. The Vance subpoena again reached the Supreme Court, which on Feb. 22, refused to block it. His spokesperson has confirmed that the office now has access to Trump’s tax returns, including millions of pages of documents. Charges have not been filed.

Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that Vance’s office has subpoenaed Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.

Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include investigation of a $130 million loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income, as required by the IRS.

Update-3: On May, 25, 2021, the Washington Post reported that Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges.” According to the Post, “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”

Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify.

Update-5: On July 1, prosecutors indicted the Trump Organization and the chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg with running a tax fraud scheme for over fifteen years. The indictment charges Weisselberg, the Trump Organization, and the Trump Payroll Co. with compensating Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives with off-the-books funds that were unreported or misreported to federal, state, and local tax authorities.

The indictment includes a reference to the former President. It states that “as part of the scheme to defraud, Trump Corporation personnel … arranged for tuition expenses for Weisselberg’s family members to be paid by personal checks drawn on the account of and signed by Donald J. ‘Trump.” The indictment also refers to an “unindicted co-conspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.

15. DC Attorney General Incitement Investigation for Attack on U.S. Capitol
Prosecuting Office: DC Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: DC Attorney General Karl Racine has said he is exploring whether to charge Trump with incitement. So far, his office has focused on a DC statute that makes it a misdemeanor to “incite or provoke violence where there is a likelihood that such violence will ensue.” Presumably, DC prosecutors are looking into Trump’s statements and tweets before and during the riot, gauging whether they amount to criminal incitement.

That said, Racine has cautioned that prosecuting Trump would be an uphill battle. Though the former president no longer could claim presidential immunity, the First Amendment may still shield his speech from prosecution. Under Brandenburg–the controlling case here–a speaker can be prosecuted for incitement only when their speech is both intended and likely to cause imminent lawless action. This is a notoriously difficult standard to meet, especially on the intent side. Even though some rioters have claimed they were following Trump’s instructions, Racine would need to actually prove it was Trump’s actual goal for them to do so. Despite the trail of incriminating statements Trump left behind, Racine may still have trouble meeting such a high bar.

Not only that, Racine has limited options in terms of what offenses he can charge. Because DC splits criminal jurisdiction with the U.S. government, Racine’s office can enforce only low-level crimes. As a result, he cannot charge Trump with arguably more applicable felonies, and is effectively limited to DC’s incitement statute. And as defense attorneys in DC have noted, this misdemeanor offense is typically charged in street-level disorderly conduct cases, arguably making it a poor fit.

Case Status: Racine’s office is investigating Trump’s conduct but has not filed charges.

Note: In the Department of Justice investigations, prosecutors are apparently more focused on charging the rioters themselves rather than investigating the former president. Though DC’s top federal prosecutor refused to rule out criminally investigating Trump, nothing since then has suggested a federal probe is in the works. Justice Department officials have reportedly debated whether to open a criminal investigation of Trump associate, Roger Stone.

16. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation
Prosecuting Office: Fulton County, GA District Attorney’s Office.

Case Summary: On Feb. 10, 2021, the Fulton County DA’s Office opened an investigation into attempted election interference by former President Trump. The investigation is looking into potential violations of Georgia election laws, including the “solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office and any involvement in violence or threats related to the election’s administration.”

Case Status: On Feb. 10, 2021, the Fulton County DA’s Office sent letters to Governor Brian Kemp, Lieutenant Governor Duncan, Secretary of State Raffensperger, and Attorney General Carr informing them of the new investigation and requesting that all records relating to the election, including emails sent by employees from non-government accounts, be preserved.

Speaking of going to jail, lets do a comparison. These are the legal cases pending against rape daddy.
1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation and Federal Tort Claims Act Litigation

Carroll is suing Trump for defamation after he publicly accused her of fabricating a rape allegation against him. The parties are currently involved in an appeal before the Second Circuit, where Trump (and so far, the Justice Department as well) is arguing that he had official immunity from Carroll’s defamation claim under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA).

2. Summer Zervos Defamation Suit

Summer Zervos, a former contestant on the Apprentice, has filed a civil suit against former President Trump for defamation after he claimed her allegations of his inappropriate sexual conduct were lies designed to help the Clinton campaign and improve her fame. The case is currently at the New York Court of Appeals, the highest New York state court.

Update: On Mar. 30, the New York Court of Appeals denied Trump’s appeal on his motion to dismiss the case. Trump originally filed the motion claiming that a state court could not hear a suit against a sitting president. The court stated that issues were now moot, and the case can now go forward.

3. Mary Trump Fraud Litigation

Mary Trump is suing Donald Trump for defrauding her out of millions of dollars in an inheritance dispute. The suit is pending in New York state court, where the parties are currently battling over former President Trump’s move to dismiss the case.

4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation

Ithaca Capital is suing Trump’s hotel management company for fraud in federal court. Primarily, Ithaca claims that Trump representatives exaggerated the value of a Panama hotel during Ithaca’s negotiations to purchase it.

5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class Action

A group of anonymous plaintiffs have filed a class action against the Trump family and their business, alleging that the Trumps used their brand to scam investors into paying for worthless business opportunities. The district court denied the Trumps’ bid to force the case into arbitration, and the Trumps are now appealing.

6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds

In a non-criminal suit, the DC Attorney General is suing several Trump-affiliated entities for misusing inauguration funds to enrich Trump’s family business. The suit is currently in discovery before DC’s local court, where the AG’s office is deposing key Trump executives, notably including his children.

7. Reps. Karen Bass et al. Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack

Ten members of the House of Representatives, represented by the NAACP, are suing Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and two right wing militia groups for conspiring to forcibly prevent Congress from counting the Electoral College votes on Jan. 6.

8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

On Mar. 5, 2021, Representative Eric Swalwell sued Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump Jr., and Congressman Mo Brooks in federal court over the Jan. 6 riots. Swalwell alleges that the defendants violated federal civil rights laws–including the Ku Klux Klan Act–when they conspired to interfere with the Electoral College Count on Jan 6. Beyond that, Swalwell also says the defendants should be held liable for negligently violating DC criminal codes on incitement, encouraging the rioters’ violent conduct, and intentionally inflicting emotional distress on members of Congress.

9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

Two Capitol Police officers–both on duty during the Jan. 6 insurrection–sued Donald Trump for injuries they sustained while protecting the Capitol. Both allege that the rioters physically attacked them with fists, chemical spray, and other weapons. They allege that the former president, by his incendiary words and conduct, directed the physical attack and emotional distress.

10. Second Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots

A second group of Capitol Police officers filed suit against Trump, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and other affiliates involved in allegedly planning and executing the Jan. 6 riots. The seven officers claim that they were physically and emotionally injured by attackers that Trump instigated, and that Trump and his co-defendants conspired to disrupt congressional business in the certification of electoral votes.

11. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case for Post-Election Actions

The LDF is suing Trump, the Trump Campaign, and the RNC for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election in violation of the Voting Rights Act and the Ku Klux Klan Act. While the litigation is still at its early stages, Trump faces damages and a declaratory judgment that he did indeed violate these provisions of the law.

12. New York Attorney General’s Civil and Criminal Investigations

Since Mar. 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James has been investigating allegations that the Trump Organization altered property values to avoid tax liabilities. The investigation began after Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen provided congressional testimony that Trump engaged in fraud. In Oct. 2020, James’s office deposed Eric Trump, and in Jan. 2021 a state court judge ruled that Trump’s tax attorneys must turn over thousands of documents.

Update: On May 18, 2021, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”

13. Scotland Unexplained Wealth Orders

The Scottish Parliament voted to reject calls from the opposition party, the Scottish Greens, to investigate the Trump Organization’s golf courses through an Unexplained Wealth Order (UWO). UWOs are a mechanism designed to prevent suspected corrupt foreign officials from laundering potentially stolen funds into the UK. They require an individual or organization to reveal the sources of their unexplained wealth and, while they do not automatically trigger criminal proceedings, they can result at least in confiscation of assets.

On Aug. 11, 2021, Lord Sandison of the Scottish Court of Session ruled the petition seeking “judicial review of the approach of the Scottish ministers in determining whether to apply to the court for UWOs” should “proceed without condition or restriction.” He ruled that their case has “real prospects of success.” Scotland’s High Court will likely hear the case later this year.

14. Criminal Investigations into Trump’s Finances

During his presidency, the Manhattan District Attorney investigated Trump’s finances. Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance recently gained access to Trump’s tax information in the course of a criminal investigation into potential tax crimes, insurance fraud, and other financial crimes under state law. Criminal charges have not been filed.

Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that prosecutors have subpoenaed Mr. Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.

Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include an investigation of a loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income.

Update-3: Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges,” the Washington Post reported on May 25, 2021. “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”

Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify.

Update-5: The DA charged the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer Weisselberg on Thursday, July 1 for an alleged 15-year-long tax fraud scheme. The indictment includes reference to an “unindicted coconspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.

15. DC AG Incitement Criminal Investigation

The DC Attorney General, Karl Racine, has announced a criminal investigation into Trump’s alleged role in provoking the Jan. 6th riots. No charges have been filed, though Racine’s office is reportedly looking into a local DC code that makes it a misdemeanor to incite violence.

16. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation

The Fulton County DA’s Office has opened a criminal investigation into attempted election interference by Trump. The DA’s Office has requested that all official and unofficial emails concerning the election be preserved and has reportedly also planned to look into a call between Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as part of the investigation as well as Rudy Giuliani’s potential false statements to Georgia officials.

Update-1: Officials are reportedly expected to seek a grand jury subpoena the week of March 1, 2021 for documents and witnesses connected to the investigation.

Update-2: On Mar. 11, a recording of a call between then-President Trump and the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, Frances Watson, was released by the Wall Street Journal. On the call, Trump urged Watson to look for fraud in mail-in ballots. The Fulton County DA’s Office has said that they will request a copy of the phone call.

Update-3: As of Mar. 28, there are reportedly two grand juries considering subpoenas for documents relevant to the investigation.

CIVIL CASES

1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation Suit
Carroll v. Trump, No. 20-cv-07311, 2020 WL 6277814 (S.D.N.Y. Oct. 27, 2020), appeal docketed, No. 20-03977 (2d Cir. Nov. 25, 2020)

Plaintiff: E. Jean Carroll, a journalist and advice columnist

Case Summary: In 2019, Carroll publicly accused then-President Trump of sexually assaulting her in a New York City department store in the 1990s. A few hours later, Trump denied Carroll’s allegation and accused her of fabricating the story to drum up publicity for her upcoming book. Carroll then sued Trump for defamation in New York state court, alleging that Trump defamed her when he publicly accused her of falsifying the assault story.

After nearly a year of state court proceedings–and with Carroll’s counsel angling to sample Trump’s DNA–the Justice Department moved to intervene on Trump’s behalf under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA). This move threatened to quash the suit. In effect, the FTCA (as amended by the Westfall Act) provides blanket immunity to federal employees who commit certain torts–including defamation–arising out of their official duties. According to the DOJ, the president’s official duties include speaking to the press about public matters–which would mean that Trump had immunity from any defamatory statements he made about Carroll.

The DOJ’s intervention also derailed the state court proceedings: because FTCA claims must be litigated in federal court, Carroll’s suit was automatically removed to the Southern District of New York (SDNY). In federal court, Carroll argued that Trump’s statements were not protected by the FTCA. In short, Carroll contended that (i) Trump was not covered by the FTCA because the president is not an “employee”; and (ii) Trump’s statements about Carroll fell outside of his official presidential duties.

On both counts, the court agreed. Though removal was irreversible, the court held that the FTCA did not cover Trump’s actions, so Carroll’s defamation suit could proceed against Trump in his personal capacity. Acting separately, the DOJ and Trump both appealed. Trump also requested the court stay the district court proceedings until that appeal is resolved.

Case Status: In the SDNY proceedings, the parties filed opposing memoranda on Trump’s motion to stay in Dec. 2020. The court has not yet ruled on that issue. If the court denies the motion, Carroll’s defamation claim could proceed at the same time as the Second Circuit hears Trump’s appeal on FTCA immunity.

At the Second Circuit, the DOJ and Trump filed separate opening briefs on Jan. 15, 2021. Carroll’s attorneys then requested an Apr. 16, 2021 due date for their brief. Notably, her counsel explicitly selected that date so the Biden DOJ would have time to reassess the Trump administration’s position that Trump was acting within the scope of his employment when he allegedly defamed Carroll. The Second Circuit granted that scheduling request.

Update: Carroll filed her brief on Apr. 16, 2021, urging the appeals court to uphold the decision below.

Update: Despite the change in administration, the Biden DOJ filed a reply brief on June 7, 2021, that backed Trump’s argument that the FTCA covered his conduct. It echoed the core arguments from the Trump DOJ’s opening brief that the president is an “employee” under the FTCA and that elected officials act within the scope of their employment when they respond to media inquiries.

2. Summer Zervos Defamation Suit
Zervos vs. Trump, No. 150522/2017 (N.Y. Sup Ct. Jan. 17, 2017), appeal docketed, No. APL-2020-00009 (N.Y. Mar. 9, 2020)

Plaintiff: Summer Zervos, former contestant on the Apprentice

Case Summary: On Jan. 17, 2017, Zervos filed a suit in New York State Court against Trump for defamation. During Trump’s campaign, many women, including Zervos, accused Trump of inappropriate sexual conduct. In her complaint against Trump, Zervos claims that in 2007, while she sought employment from Trump, he kissed her on the lips and touched her inappropriately. After she rejected his advances, his attitude became very business-like and he later offered her a job for half the salary she was seeking. She attempted to contact Trump, noting that she felt she was being “penalized for not sleeping with him.” Trump said he could not discuss it with her at the time. Zervos says she decided to come forward with these allegations after the Billy Bush Access Hollywood Tape showed Trump speaking in a derogatory manner toward women. In response to her allegations, Trump claims she was lying and was only making these accusations to help the Clinton campaign or to get fame.

Zervos alleges that, as a result of Trump’s claims, she has suffered both emotional and financial harm.

Case Status: Trump filed a motion to dismiss and a stay for the duration of his presidency. On Oct. 3, 2018, the court denied Trump’s motion, finding that, if the facts alleged by the plaintiff are true, she has a reasonable claim to recover for defamation. The court also found that there were no federalism or comity concerns that would suggest that a state court could not hear suit against the sitting president for nonofficial acts. A panel of New York appellate judges affirmed this judgment in Oct. 2019, finding that the president is “not above the law” and that the defamation suit can go forward.

This motion has been appealed to the New York Court of Appeals, the highest New York state court.

Pending the decision from the New York Court of Appeals, in Mar. 2020, the court ruled that Zervos cannot “dig for evidence” in the interim. In 2021, with Trump out of office, Zervos has filed a motion to move the lawsuit forward.

Update: On Mar. 30, the New York Court of Appeals denied Trump’s appeal on his motion to dismiss the case. Trump originally filed the motion claiming that a state court could not hear a suit against a sitting president. The court stated, in a one-sentence order, that issues were now moot, and the case can now go forward.

3. Mary Trump Fraud Litigation
Trump v. Trump, No. 654698/2020 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. filed Sept. 24, 2020)

Plaintiff: Mary Trump, the former president’s niece

Case Summary: In Sept. 2020, Mary Trump sued Donald Trump, her uncle, for allegedly defrauding her out of tens of millions of dollars. When Mary’s father–Donald Trump’s brother–died in 1981, he left Mary a valuable stake in the Trump property empire. Mary was a minor at the time, so Donald Trump and his siblings took control of her share, ostensibly to look after Mary’s interest over the long run.

But according to Mary, that didn’t happen. In her lawsuit, she alleges that the Trump siblings siphoned off revenue from her share and set up an ongoing scheme to artificially devalue her assets. This went on for nearly two decades. Then, when Trump patriarch Fred Sr. (Donald Trump’s father) died in 1999, Mary took issue with the terms of his will. The Trump siblings immediately pushed back and started maneuvering to force Mary out of the family holdings altogether. After lengthy probate proceedings, and with Mary’s legal fees steadily climbing, the siblings delivered an ultimatum: they would not settle the probate case unless Mary relinquished all interests in the family fortune, including those from her late father.

According to Mary, the Trumps offered a settlement figure that woefully undervalued her share of the family holdings. Still, she ultimately accepted a settlement in Apr. 2001, apparently still unaware she was being sold short.

Then, over fifteen years later, the New York Times broke its 2018 story that the Trump Organization had long been fraudulently manipulating the values of its assets. From there, Mary says she realized that she had settled for tens of millions of dollars less than what her stake was actually worth.

Two years later, Mary published a book accusing the Trumps of shorting her out of her rightful share. She then filed this lawsuit in New York state court on Sept. 24, 2020, accusing Donald Trump and his siblings of fraud and breach of fiduciary duty.

Case Status: Trump moved to dismiss the case on Jan. 4, 2021. Mary filed a response on Feb. 26, 2021. As of August 2021, the court has not yet ruled on the motion.

4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation
Ithaca Cap. Invs. v. Trump Pan. Hotel Mgmt., No. 18-cv-00390 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 30, 2020)

Plaintiff: Ithaca Capital, a real estate holding company that purchased a majority of the Trump International Hotel in Panama

Case Summary: Donald Trump’s private hotel business–Trump International Hotels Management–is embroiled in federal litigation over a hotel management deal gone bad. Until 2018, Trump International operated a luxury hotel in Panama. As was its standard business practice, Trump International contracted with a separate owner to provide management services and use of the “Trump” label. When a prior owner went bankrupt in 2015, Ithaca Capital moved to purchase a majority of the hotel’s units. But per Ithaca, Trump representatives made a series of fraudulent claims that oversold the hotel’s profitability. Unaware, Ithaca went ahead with the purchase.

The hotel soon ran into financial trouble, and the relationship between the two parties collapsed. Once Ithaca ended the partnership, it claims to have discovered that Trump International had allegedly underreported costs, diverted hotel revenue, and failed to pay income taxes.

After a brief round of arbitration proceedings, Ithaca sued Trump International in the Southern District of New York. Ithaca made several claims against Trump. First, Ithaca argued that Trump representatives–including Eric and Donald Jr.–made exaggerated claims about the hotel’s value. Second, they argued that Trump International breached their agreement by mismanaging the hotel. And third, Ithaca asserted that Trump International improperly diverted hotel revenues for their own use.

Case Status: Trump International challenged each of Ithaca’s claims and asserted several counterclaims of its own. On Mar. 30, 2020, the district court upheld all three of Ithaca’s claims and dismissed all but one of Trump’s counterclaims. Trumps’ remaining counterclaim–for tortious interference–alleges that Ithaca interfered with Trump’s other hotel contracts when Ithaca forced him out of their partnership.

The parties are currently in discovery and are due to finish by Fall 2021.

5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class Action
Doe v. Trump Corp., No. 18-cv-09936 (S.D.N.Y. Oct 29, 2018), appeal docketed, No. 20-01706 (2d Cir. May 28, 2020)

Plaintiffs: (Anonymous) Jane Doe, Luke Loe, Mary Moe, Richard Roe

Case Summary: On Oct. 30, 2018, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Trump Corporation, Donald Trump, Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Eric Trump. The complaint alleges that the defendants used their brand name to defraud thousands of working class individuals by promoting numerous businesses in exchange for “secret payments.” The companies include ACN Opportunity, LLC (a business based on a controversial multi-level marketing scheme), the Trump Network, LLC (another multi-level marketing scheme), and Business Strategies Group, LLC (a seminar claiming to sell the Trump secrets to success). The lawsuit also claims that the defendants are liable for a “pattern of racketeering activity” violating the RICO Act (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) as well as activity violating numerous state consumer protection laws concerning fair business practices and competition.

On July 24, 2019, the District Court judge partially granted the defendants’ motion to dismiss. The judge dismissed the RICO claims because the Complaint did not “sufficiently plead that Defendants’ conduct was the proximate cause of Plaintiffs’ losses.” However, she ruled that the other claims concerning the state laws will not be dismissed under Class Action Fairness Act (CAFA).

Case Status: The Trumps’ moved to compel forced arbitration and the district court judge denied the motion in Apr. 2020. The court held that the defendants were not party to the arbitration agreement (between ACN and the plaintiffs) and thus, could not compel arbitration. She also found that the motion to compel arbitration was in bad faith as they are acting in a manner that is “substantively prejudicial towards the plaintiffs” and not within the spirit of the Federal Arbitration Act (FAA). The Trumps have filed an interlocutory appeal to the Second Circuit.

Following the denial of compelled arbitration, the Trumps also filed a motion to stay, or a motion to halt the legal process. The district court denied this motion, citing the four traditional factors that must be balanced when granting a stay and finding that the defendants have not met the requirements to grant a stay.

6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds
District of Columbia v. 58th Presidential Inauguration Comm., No. 2020-CA-00488-B (D.C. Super. Ct. Sept. 9, 2020)

Prosecuting Office: DC Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: In the run-up to Trump’s 2017 swearing-in, his inaugural committee raised a record $107 million to spend on inauguration festivities. As a nonprofit, the inaugural committee was bound to use these charitable funds for the public good, namely by organizing events to celebrate the 2017 presidential inauguration.

But as the DC AG alleges, the inaugural committee used over $1 million of those funds in an improper bid to enrich the Trump family’s private businesses. DC’s attorneys are now suing the inaugural committee, the Trump International Hotel, and the Trump Organization over that alleged misspending. Chief among the allegations, the DC AG claims that the committee paid exorbitant rates to rent space in the Trump International Hotel in downtown DC. The committee, for instance, allegedly paid $175,000 to rent the main ballroom on the same day that another nonprofit paid only $5,000–a rate 35 times higher. On top of that, the committee allegedly ignored much better deals available at other upscale locations, settling instead on overpaying for space at the Trump location.

The DC AG frames these payments as an under-the-table attempt to divert charitable funds to the Trumps’ private holdings. The complaint focuses on possible misconduct by committee executive Rick Gates, who also held key roles in the Trump campaign. (Gates would later cooperate with the Mueller investigation.) To tie in the Trump entities, the complaint asserts that the Trump businesses knew it was overcharging the non-profit committee, and points to internal negotiations between the parties that allegedly show both sides were aware of the extreme rates. The DC AG is asking the court to compel the Trump business to put the misspent funds into a trust where they can be put toward charitable purposes.

Case Status: The defendants–the committee itself along with the two Trump businesses–moved to dismiss the suit, but the district court denied that motion in Sept. 2020. On Jan. 11, 2021, the DC AG added a new allegation that the committee improperly used its nonprofit funds to pay a hotel bill on behalf of Trump’s private business. The suit is currently in discovery, and the AG’s office has already deposed several high-level Trump executives, including Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

Update: The DC AG moved for summary judgment on Mar. 24, 2021. All three defendants responded by filing their own motions for summary judgment on Apr. 8, 2021.

Update: On July 28, 2021 in a 3-0 decision, the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the district court’s judgement and ruled that the Trump family could not compel arbitration. The court found that since there was no “close relationship” between Trumps and ACN such that the plaintiffs could reasonably infer that their arbitration agreement extended to the Trumps. Thus, the court concluded, the “defendants are not entitled to compel the plaintiffs to arbitrate this dispute.” As of August 2021, the court has not yet ruled on the summary judgment motions.

7. Karen Bass et al. Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
Thompson v. Trump, No. 21-cv-00400 (D.D.C. filed Feb. 16, 2021)

Plaintiff: Rep. Karen R. Bass, Rep. Stephen I. Cohen, Rep. Veronica Escobar, Rep. Pramila Jayapal, Rep. Henry C. Johnson, Jr., Rep. Marcia C. Kaptur, Rep. Barbara J. Lee, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, Rep. Maxine Waters, and Rep. Bonnie M. Watson Coleman, represented by the NAACP

Case Summary: On Feb. 16, 2021, Mississippi Congressman Bennie Thompson sued former President Trump and Rudy Giuliani along with two right-wing militia groups known as the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, for violating the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, 42 U.S.C. § 1985(1). In the complaint, Thompson alleges that Trump violated the Ku Klux Klan Act by inciting the rioters with the intent to prevent Members of Congress from discharging their official duties of the timely approval of the Electoral College vote. He argues that after Trump’s loss in the Nov. 2020 election, the then-President set out on a campaign to mobilize his supporters, culminating in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. It portrays Trump’s rhetoric on the morning of Jan. 6 as a call to arms and as intended to prevent the certification of the election.

The Act was passed in 1871 in response to violence and intimidation by the KKK intended to stop Black people from voting. The legislation allows Members of Congress to sue individuals who conspire to violently “molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede” the discharge of a public official’s duties.

Thompson seeks compensatory damages for his emotional distress suffered during the attack in addition to punitive damages.

Case Status: The complaint was filed on Feb. 16, 2021 with defendants’ summonses attached. According to the summonses, defendants’ answers are due in late April. On Apr. 7, 2021, ten additional members of Congress moved to join the lawsuit as plaintiffs.

Update: On July 21, 2021, Rep. Thompson announced that he would withdraw from the lawsuit to avoid any conflict with the Jan. 6 House Select Committee, which Thompson is chairing. The other plaintiffs–all members of Congress who are not on the Committee–confirmed that they would continue the lawsuit.

Update: On July



8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
Swalwell v. Trump, No 21-cv-00586 (D.D.C. filed Mar. 5, 2021)

Plaintiff: Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA)

Case Summary: On Mar. 5, 2021, Representative Eric Swalwell sued Donald Trump and several associates in DC federal court over the Jan. 6 riots. Much like Representative Bennie Thompson’s related suit, Swalwell alleges that Trump and his co-defendants–Donald Trump Jr., Representative Mo Brooks (R-AL), and Rudy Giuliani–violated the Ku Klux Klan Act by conspiring to interfere with the Electoral College count on Jan. 6.

Swalwell’s suit also goes one step further: it claims that the defendants should be held civilly liable for negligence because they committed criminal incitement under DC’s local code, which establishes the standard of care. Notably, Swalwell says that Trump violated the same DC code–§22-1321(a)(2)–that DC AG Karl Racine is apparently focusing on in his own criminal investigation into Trump’s conduct.

Beyond the civil rights and incitement counts, Swalwell also claims that the defendants are liable for encouraging (aiding and abetting) the rioters’ violent conduct and for intentionally inflicting emotional distress on members of Congress in connection with the attack on the Capitol.

Case Status: Swalwell filed his complaint on Mar. 5, 2021.

Update: On May 17, 2021, Giuliani filed a motion to dismiss the claims against him. He argued that his speech did not qualify as incitement, that he never formed a conspiracy with the other defendants or the rioters, and that his speech was ultimately protected by the First Amendment.

Update: On May 24, 2021, Donald Trump and his son Donald Jr. filed their own motion to dismiss. Most notably, former President Trump argued that he had absolute immunity against Swalwell’s claims because Trump’s alleged misconduct was within the scope of his official duties as president. Both Trump and Trump Jr. also contended that their speech was protected under the First Amendment and the canonical Brandenburg test. The Trumps also advanced various other arguments ranging from standing to the political question doctrine to even a claim that Swalwell was barred from suing Trump over the same conduct for which Trump was acquitted at his impeachment trial.

Update: On July 1, 2021, Swalwell filed a motion for default judgment against Brooks, arguing that Brooks had missed the deadline to respond to the lawsuit. Brooks responded with his own motion urging the court to dismiss the lawsuit because he was acting within the “scope of his employment,” which would essentially block the case under the Westfall Act. The district court denied Swalwell’s motion for a default judgment on July 5 but has not yet ruled on Brooks’s motion.

Update: On July 27, 2021, the Justice Department submitted a brief stating that Brooks was not acting within the scope of his employment and thus not shielded by the Westfall Act. The House of Representatives filed a response taking a “non-participation approach” (silence) on the question whether Brooks acted within his scope of employment. The Chairwoman of the Committee on House Administration submitted a brief stating that Rep. Brooks was not acting within his scope of employment.

9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
Blassingame v. Trump, No. 21-cv-00858 (D.D.C. filed Mar. 30, 2021)

Plaintiff: James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby, two Capitol police officers

Case Summary: On Mar. 30, 2021, two Capitol Police Officers sued Donald Trump for injuries they sustained during the Jan. 6 riots in DC. The officers–James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby–say they were maced with bear spray, attacked with fists and flagpoles, and even crushed against a door as they tried to protect the Capitol from pro-Trump intruders.

Much like the other Jan. 6 suits against Trump, the officers pin their injuries on Trump’s incendiary rhetoric before and during violence. Both allege that Trump directed the rioters to assault them, aided the rioters in committing those assaults, and negligently incited the riot in violation of DC’s public safety codes. Blassingame also accuses Trump of directing intentional infliction of emotional distress, pointing to the racial slurs and taunts that the intruders allegedly hurled at him during the violence.

Case Status: The officers filed their suit in DC federal court on Mar. 30, 2021. On Apr. 28, 2021, the plaintiffs added two new conspiracy claims against Trump, one based on the KKK Act and the other on common law conspiracy. They allege that Trump illegally conspired with the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers to storm the Capitol, which in turn caused the plaintiffs’ injuries.

Update: Donald Trump filed a motion to dismiss on June 24, 2021.

10. Second Capitol Police Suit over the Jan. 6 Riots
Smith v. Trump, No. 21-cv-02265 (D.D.C. filed Aug. 26, 2021)

Plaintiff: Seven Capitol Police officers

Case Summary: On Aug. 26, 2021, a second group of Capitol Police officers filed suit over injuries they suffered while defending the Capitol on Jan. 6. The officers allege that Trump and his co-defendants–including the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers–conspired to incite a riot and attack the Capitol, leaving the officers physically and emotionally injured.

Like the other Jan. 6 lawsuits against Trump, the complaint asserts that Trump violated the KKK Act by conspiring to instigate the riots. The complaint also alleges that unnamed defendants–listed as “John Does” who carried out the attack–physically assaulted the officers at Trump’s provocation, which could make Trump liable for the officers’ injuries.

The plaintiffs also add in a unique claim not found in other Jan. 6 lawsuits against Trump: that the defendants violated the DC Bias-Related Crimes Act, a local hate-crime statute. According to the complaint, the defendants were motivated by political bias against the Democratic Party when they instigated and executed the Capitol attack.

Case Status: The officers filed their suit in DC federal court on Aug 26, 2021.

11. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case
Mich. Welfare Rights Org. v. Trump, No. 20-cv-03388 (D.D.C. filed Nov. 20, 2020)

Plaintiff: Michigan Welfare Rights Organization and the NAACP, represented by the NAACP Legal Defense & Educational Fund (LDF).

Case Summary: On Nov. 20, 2020, LDF sued then-President Trump and the Trump campaign alleging that their post-election conduct violated Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act, 52 U.S.C. § 10307(b). After losing the election, Trump spent weeks pressuring Republican election officials not to certify the election—in particular, the complaint examines the actions of Wayne County Repulican election officials who first voted not to certify the election, though they eventually did. Section 11(b) forbids intimidation of voters, those aiding voters, and certain election officials. Voting is broadly defined in the Voting Rights Act, covering “all action necessary to make a vote effective[,] … including … having such ballot counted properly and included in the appropriate totals of votes cast.”

In Dec. 2020, the complaint was amended to include the NAACP as a plaintiff, the Republican National Committee as a defendant, and alleged a new claim: that defendants violated the Ku Klux Klan Act, which prohibits conspiracies to deprive someone of equal protection under law or the right to vote. 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3). LDF argues that Trump’s efforts to discard votes in cities with large Black populations meets the statutory definition.

LDF seeks statutory damages, a declaratory judgment, and injunctive relief that would prevent defendants from intimidating voters and election officials in the future.

Case Status: On Feb. 25, defendants moved to dismiss the case. They had a variety of arguments, including that the case was filed in the wrong court, that the cited statutes do not allow a private party to bring litigation, and that their conduct did not violate the statutes.

12. NY Civil Suit over Fraudulent Real Estate Practices
People v. Trump Org., No. 451685/2020 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. Dec. 15, 2020)

Plaintiff: New York Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: In Mar. 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James launched a civil probe investigating allegations that the Trump organization inflated and deflated property values to avoid tax liability and for other financial benefits. She began her investigation after Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen testified before Congress that Trump had engaged in fraud. While there is some overlap, James has noted that her investigation differs from and is independent of the Manhattan DA criminal investigation.

Much of her probe has focused on Seven Springs, a Trump-owned property in New York. In Dec. 2019, James subpoenaed the Trump Organization, seeking records related to a $21 million tax deduction that Trump claimed against the property in 2015. Per her court filings, James is exploring whether Trump improperly inflated the property’s value to boost the size of the tax benefit.

James is also looking into other transactions relating to Trump properties. She is investigating whether Trump failed to pay taxes on debt forgiven during the financial restructuring of the Trump Hotel & Tower in Chicago and the appraisal of the LA Trump National Golf Club used for his conservation tax break, which was substantially higher than metrics typically used to value golf properties.

Case Status: In connection with the Seven Springs subpoenas, James’s office deposed Eric Trump in Oct. 2020. She also sought related records held by Trump’s tax lawyers. His counsel initially refused to produce them, claiming they were shielded by attorney-client privilege. The state court judge disagreed, ruling on Jan. 29, 2021 that the tax attorneys must turn over thousands of documents about the tax deductions.

Update: On May 18, 2021, Fabien Levy, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”



13. Scotland Unexplained Wealth Orders
Plaintiff: Avaaz Foundation against the Scottish Ministers and Others

Case Summary: On February 3, 2021, the Scottish Parliament voted to reject calls from the opposition party, the Scottish Greens, to investigate the Trump Organization’s golf courses through an Unexplained Wealth Order (UWO). UWOs are a mechanism designed to prevent suspected corrupt foreign officials from laundering potentially stolen funds into the UK. They require an individual or organization to reveal the sources of their unexplained wealth and, while they do not automatically trigger criminal proceedings, they can result at least in confiscation of assets. The concerns that led to the push to investigate Trump arose when Trump spent many hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase and refurbish golf courses within Scotland with all-cash transactions. This was particularly suspicious since Trump had financed large scale purchases with debt prior to these transactions. It is disputed whether Eric Trump made a statement indicating that the funds had come from Russia.

The co-leader of the Scottish Greens stated, “Scotland cannot be a country where anyone with the money can buy whatever land and property they want, no questions asked, and the Scottish Greens will continue to challenge vested interests that protect people like Trump rather than our communities.” Eric Trump criticized the suit, stating that “at a critical time when politicians should be focused on saving lives and reopening businesses in Scotland, they are focused on advancing their personal agendas.”

Case Status: The non-profit global rights pressure group, Avaaz Foundation, sought to challenge the Scottish Parliament vote and, in May, filed a petition in the highest civil court in Scotland to review the decision not to pursue a UWO. On Aug. 11, 2021, Lord Sandison of the Scottish Court of Session ruled the petition seeking “judicial review of the approach of the Scottish ministers in determining whether to apply to the court for UWOs” should “proceed without condition or restriction.” He ruled that their case has “real prospects of success.” Scotland’s High Court will likely hear the case later this year.



CRIMINAL CASES

14. Criminal Investigations into Trump’s Finances
Trump v. Deutsche Bank, No. 19-cv-03826 (S.D.N.Y. Apr. 29, 2019)

Trump v. Vance, No. 19-cv-08694 (S.D.N.Y. Sept. 19, 2019)

Prosecuting Office: In 2019, then-President Trump sued to block subpoenas issued by three House Committees and the Manhattan District Attorney seeking his financial information in 2019. As of Feb. 22, the Manhattan DA now has access to Trump’s tax information.

Case Summary: In 2019, the House Intelligence and Finance Committees issued subpoenas to both Deutsche Bank and Capital One seeking information about then-President Trump’s finances. Before the banks complied with the subpoenas, Trump sued, seeking a declaratory judgment that they were unenforceable and an injunction that would have prevented the banks from disclosing Trump’s financial information. In addition, the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed Mazars, Trump’s accounting firm, demanding additional accounting information. Trump again sued to block the subpoena.

In parallel, Manhattan District Attorney, Cyrus Vance Jr., subpoenaed Mazars, for access to Trump’s tax records. Trump again sued to prevent the disclosure of this information.

All three cases reached the Supreme Court, where they were decided on the same day, July 9, 2020. The congressional subpoenas were combined into one case, and were remanded so the lower courts could consider separation of powers concerns raised by congressional committees subpoenaing a sitting president. In the Vance case, the Court ruled that a president’s financial information could be subpoenaed by a local district attorney.

Case Status: With the seating of the new Congress in Jan. 2021, the Congressional subpoenas expired. The Vance subpoena again reached the Supreme Court, which on Feb. 22, refused to block it. His spokesperson has confirmed that the office now has access to Trump’s tax returns, including millions of pages of documents. Charges have not been filed.

Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that Vance’s office has subpoenaed Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.

Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include investigation of a $130 million loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income, as required by the IRS.

Update-3: On May, 25, 2021, the Washington Post reported that Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges.” According to the Post, “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”

Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify.

Update-5: On July 1, prosecutors indicted the Trump Organization and the chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg with running a tax fraud scheme for over fifteen years. The indictment charges Weisselberg, the Trump Organization, and the Trump Payroll Co. with compensating Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives with off-the-books funds that were unreported or misreported to federal, state, and local tax authorities.

The indictment includes a reference to the former President. It states that “as part of the scheme to defraud, Trump Corporation personnel … arranged for tuition expenses for Weisselberg’s family members to be paid by personal checks drawn on the account of and signed by Donald J. ‘Trump.” The indictment also refers to an “unindicted co-conspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.

15. DC Attorney General Incitement Investigation for Attack on U.S. Capitol
Prosecuting Office: DC Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: DC Attorney General Karl Racine has said he is exploring whether to charge Trump with incitement. So far, his office has focused on a DC statute that makes it a misdemeanor to “incite or provoke violence where there is a likelihood that such violence will ensue.” Presumably, DC prosecutors are looking into Trump’s statements and tweets before and during the riot, gauging whether they amount to criminal incitement.

That said, Racine has cautioned that prosecuting Trump would be an uphill battle. Though the former president no longer could claim presidential immunity, the First Amendment may still shield his speech from prosecution. Under Brandenburg–the controlling case here–a speaker can be prosecuted for incitement only when their speech is both intended and likely to cause imminent lawless action. This is a notoriously difficult standard to meet, especially on the intent side. Even though some rioters have claimed they were following Trump’s instructions, Racine would need to actually prove it was Trump’s actual goal for them to do so. Despite the trail of incriminating statements Trump left behind, Racine may still have trouble meeting such a high bar.

Not only that, Racine has limited options in terms of what offenses he can charge. Because DC splits criminal jurisdiction with the U.S. government, Racine’s office can enforce only low-level crimes. As a result, he cannot charge Trump with arguably more applicable felonies, and is effectively limited to DC’s incitement statute. And as defense attorneys in DC have noted, this misdemeanor offense is typically charged in street-level disorderly conduct cases, arguably making it a poor fit.

Case Status: Racine’s office is investigating Trump’s conduct but has not filed charges.

Note: In the Department of Justice investigations, prosecutors are apparently more focused on charging the rioters themselves rather than investigating the former president. Though DC’s top federal prosecutor refused to rule out criminally investigating Trump, nothing since then has suggested a federal probe is in the works. Justice Department officials have reportedly debated whether to open a criminal investigation of Trump associate, Roger Stone.

16. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation
Prosecuting Office: Fulton County, GA District Attorney’s Office.

Case Summary: On Feb. 10, 2021, the Fulton County DA’s Office opened an investigation into attempted election interference by former President Trump. The investigation is looking into potential violations of Georgia election laws, including the “solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office and any involvement in violence or threats related to the election’s administration.”

Case Status: On Feb. 10, 2021, the Fulton County DA’s Office sent letters to Governor Brian Kemp, Lieutenant Governor Duncan, Secretary of State Raffensperger, and Attorney General Carr informing them of the new investigation and requesting that all records relating to the election, including emails sent by employees from non-government accounts, be preserved.

There are the legal cases pending against Hillary "Super murderer" Clinton

none.

Yes

[Jibartik]

I wonder if the taliban are vaccinated??!

Boy I hope they're okay.

What if the next delta var comes from there. Oh my sides.

[Jibartik]

ForumQuest

Belated grats on level 8

oh my

[Mesocyclone]

Larry Silverstein pulled WTC 1 2 and 7 in top-down demos and never even got investigated. He is not off the hook. He wont escape God Almighty.

[Gravydoo II]

Muslim men are allowed to beat their wives, and in some cases kill them if they get raped by somebody else. They are allowed to. It's their right.

(this is the part where you examine why what you said and what I said both make no sense. Or you can call me some kind of "phobe" and bail)

I dont live in a muslim country. The fucks that got to do with me??

Uhh, christians married 500,000 CHILDREN in the USA past decade because they said it was their right under their religion.

Oh you dont like that...

Get your own fucking house in order before you start talking about muslims. This is happening under your nose in your own nation. Not that you give a fuck.

[Gravydoo II]

I mean, you'll probably do some mental gymnastics to show me that being 35 and marrying a 14 year old is actually good for the girl or some dumb shit.

Yeah, thats happening, all the time. If we lived under christian rule, men would have the right to beat women in the USA, too.

Thank GOD we dont have a theocracy. =] See what did there? lol

[Mesocyclone]

20 years later and 0 fucks given.

[Gravydoo II]

Did you serve in the military to go kill terrorists after 9/11?

Big brave christian balls???

Or little scared balls, stayed home and did a couch quarter back about "this is what we need to do!" sort of thing?

Saying "we" and shit like you were there. LOL

[Jibartik]

We're you there?

[Horza]

20 years later and 0 fucks given.

More than three hundred and fifty thousand dead Afghani civilians and zero fucks given.

[Gravydoo II]

We're you there?

Yeah.

OIF/OEF. Iraq, Kuwait, Persian Gulf (the water), UAE.

[Ooloo]

More than three hundred and fifty thousand dead Afghani civilians and zero fucks given.

Haha what? That's not true at all.

For one thing the number is much lower, but the vast majority of people killed were afghan military and taliban members. 350k civilians? are you out of your mind?

We were keeping afghanistan relatively stable and safe for women and religious minorities. Now it's a rape hell again. I'm sure the taliban won't be killing anyone now that we're gone. I mean, they're only psychotic terrorists. Since when do they ever kill anyone? Your position is totally incoherent.

[Gravydoo II]

More than three hundred and fifty thousand dead Afghani civilians and zero fucks given.

They were not christians.

As far as the christians are concerned, they had their chance and they didnt accept the christian soldiers as their new religious leaders, so their deaths were entirely their choice.

Just like they say when they want to torture you for eternity. "you had a choice! you choose this!" lolol

Imagine what they tell kids in school.. Make up the worst lies they possibly can to scare kids in obeying them with no power..

[Gravydoo II]

Haha what? That's not true at all.

For one thing the number is much lower, but the vast majority of people killed were afghan military and taliban members. 350k civilians? are you out of your mind?

We were keeping afghanistan relatively stable and safe for women and religious minorities. Now it's a rape hell again. I'm sure the taliban won't be killing anyone now that we're gone. I mean, they're only psychotic terrorists. Since when do they ever kill anyone? Your position is totally incoherent.

Does it matter, at all? How can one life be so precious when its a white baby but hey we killed thousands of these people, non-issue.

You dont REALLY care if people live or die. You just care about controlling women cause you cant get a girl.

[Horza]

It's actually the combined death toll in Afghanistan and Iraq but its funnier when you demonstrate a total inability to check sources that aren't vetted by Trump.

[Gravydoo II]

It's actually the combined death toll in Afghanistan and Iraq but its funnier when you demonstrate a total inability to check sources that aren't vetted by Trump.

He cant. He's not allowed to read outside the approved material of his party. He doesnt want his friends and family to turn the backs on him for reading. Think about that.. Like the qualification of the party are not what you know, its what you can deny.

[Trexller]

I didn't know Joseph Goebbels had crackhead grandsons.

[Ooloo]

Bahahah horza and gravy are the shittiest posters ever. Every single post is just this litany of strawmen, things somebody never said, responding to boogeymen who don't exist.

When in the fucking hell did I ever say anything about a "white baby".

The taliban is going to kill far more afghans than the US military ever did, you god damn idiots. That's the point. For some reason you only care about people dying when the US does it. Good lord, you're either trolling, which I can respect, or genuinely completely insane.

[Horza]

I didn't know Joseph Goebbels had crackhead grandsons.

https://i.imgur.com/A1rr1t4.jpg

[Trexller]

lol i love how the guy brought an RPG to a gun fight, meanwhile, theres a hottie in a pink miniskirt casually shooting hoops in the background.

[Ooloo]

https://i.imgur.com/A1rr1t4.jpg

Cool socialism still never works and always fails and fucks everything up because it never takes into account human nature, which is that once you have power over others you will abuse it.

You guys always play hide the ball with this shit. No no, it's not marxist, it's socialist. Or no no, it's not communist, it's marxist. Er no, NEO-marxist, that sounds fancier.

It doesn't work, it gets hundreds of millions of people wiped out. The united states meanwhile is a capitalist, free-market republic and is the most prosperous nation on earth, which everyone wants to live in (even rich people who bitch about it never move). Gee I wonder which system is better?

[Ooloo]

Btw that's from the video for the eminem song godzilla featuring juice world, which is actually a really dope song and I'm sad horza has to tarnish it.

[Horza]

Free market capitalism my ass, it's a mixed economy, Trumptard. pras FDR

[Gravydoo II]

Cool socialism still never works and always fails and fucks everything up because it never takes into account human nature, which is that once you have power over others you will abuse it.

You guys always play hide the ball with this shit. No no, it's not marxist, it's socialist. Or no no, it's not communist, it's marxist. Er no, NEO-marxist, that sounds fancier.

It doesn't work, it gets hundreds of millions of people wiped out. The united states meanwhile is a capitalist, free-market republic and is the most prosperous nation on earth, which everyone wants to live in (even rich people who bitch about it never move). Gee I wonder which system is better?


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democratic-socialist-countries

All these failed nations.
1 Brazil 213,993,437
2 Turkey 85,042,738
3 Germany 83,900,473
4 United Kingdom 68,207,116
5 France 65,426,179
6 Italy 60,367,477
7 Peru 33,359,418
8 Venezuela 28,704,954
9 Ecuador 17,888,475
10 Netherlands 17,173,099
11 Tunisia 11,935,766
12 Bolivia 11,832,940
13 Portugal 10,167,925
14 Sweden 10,160,169
15 Serbia 8,697,550
16 Nicaragua 6,702,385
17 Denmark 5,813,298
18 Finland 5,548,360
19 Norway 5,465,630
20 Ireland 4,982,907
21 Croatia 4,081,651
22 Moldova 4,024,019
23 Armenia 2,968,127
24 Slovenia 2,078,724
25 Luxembourg 634,814
26 Iceland 343,353
27 Greenland 56,877


Wow, so many failed nations. I guess these places just dont exist... They have socialism in their governments.. All those hundreds of millions of people, wiped out. How are the nations still here if they lost "hundreds of millions" of people?

You are dumb as fuck. Rape daddy told me socialism bad, must be bad. FOX news said its bad, must be bad.

The "free market" is not free. Lol. What an idiot. You're not allowed to import drugs for your family, even with a prescription.

But, you said free market..

[Baler]

Gravydoo why are you watching fox news

[Trexller]

People like Gravy et al, will "hate watch" things like fox news

They need it.

They are nothing sans outrage.

[Whale biologist]

I'm sure the taliban won't be killing anyone now that we're gone. I mean, they're only psychotic terrorists. Since when do they ever kill anyone? Your position is totally incoherent.

As the ruling party of a state, as shitty and backwards it is, they weren't and aren't inclined to doing terrorism themselves. They would be utterly destroyed(again). They certainly won't be sponsoring terror abroad like their neighbor Iran, and should have learned from the mistake of offering safe or neutral harbor to active terrorist groups.

Hopefully 20 years of being conquered and occupied taught their people to make better choices going forward.

[Gravydoo II]

People like Gravy et al, will "hate watch" things like fox news

They need it.

They are nothing sans outrage.

I dont have cable or own a TV.

Anything else?

Its just so easy to know what fox news says. You look at reality, say the opposite, you got fox news. Like, the formula is very simple. If you show me an issue, any issue, if I just say the opposite of what happened, it sounds like I watch FOX news.

Havent had cable in over 5 years. I think the last time I saw a FOX "news" broadcast was back in like 2014.

Doctor says "vaccine is good. Its fine FDA approved, its effective, it works"
FOX news would say "it was approved too fast"

Did that happen? I dont know, but I'll bet you anything they said something to that effect.

[Gravydoo II]

Are you guys really that fucking stupid?

Jan 6th was a bad riot.

$20 says fox new said it was no big deal.

The pandemic is a big deal, its bad, and its killing people.

$20 says fox news says its no big deal, you're oppressed by masks and vaccines.

Joe Biden does anything, at all. Takes a breath.
Fox news would say "hes breathing too hard" or "hes barely breathing is he even alive?"

Pretty simple. Like, you cant figure this out? I'm genuinely shocked ya'll could be this fucking stupid.

[Mesocyclone]

If all you care about is red versus blue then they got you. They're living in your head rent-free.

If you dig, just a little, you will discover that both are Satan. Lying, moral-free propagandists.

Literally anything they say or do has no consequences in their eyes as long as it doesn't land them in front of a judge.

[Gravydoo II]

If all you care about is red versus blue then they got you. They're living in your head rent-free.

If you dig, just a little, you will discover that both are Satan. Lying, moral-free propagandists.

Cool, im the keeper of all knowledge. Thats the nicest thing youve ever said to me. So im a beautiful being that knows everything in the universe.

Great.

[Mesocyclone]

Don't care whom the Almighty assumes the form of, I'm used to it. But yeah, that be the One. He really IS a know-it-all

[unsunghero]

If the Taliban could be more like this Afghanistan would be better off

[Mesocyclone]

If the Democrats and the Republicans could be more like that, USA would be better off

[Ooloo]

Yes dudes who rape their own wives, and kill their daughters if they get raped are NO DIFFERENT than dorks who tresspass in the capitol with viking helmets and steal a desk. Oh and they might have also even swung flags around.

They are the same thing!

[Ooloo]

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democratic-socialist-countries

All these failed nations.
1 Brazil 213,993,437
2 Turkey 85,042,738
3 Germany 83,900,473
4 United Kingdom 68,207,116
5 France 65,426,179
6 Italy 60,367,477
7 Peru 33,359,418
8 Venezuela 28,704,954
9 Ecuador 17,888,475
10 Netherlands 17,173,099
11 Tunisia 11,935,766
12 Bolivia 11,832,940
13 Portugal 10,167,925
14 Sweden 10,160,169
15 Serbia 8,697,550
16 Nicaragua 6,702,385
17 Denmark 5,813,298
18 Finland 5,548,360
19 Norway 5,465,630
20 Ireland 4,982,907
21 Croatia 4,081,651
22 Moldova 4,024,019
23 Armenia 2,968,127
24 Slovenia 2,078,724
25 Luxembourg 634,814
26 Iceland 343,353
27 Greenland 56,877


Wow, so many failed nations. I guess these places just dont exist... They have socialism in their governments.. All those hundreds of millions of people, wiped out. How are the nations still here if they lost "hundreds of millions" of people?

You are dumb as fuck. Rape daddy told me socialism bad, must be bad. FOX news said its bad, must be bad.

The "free market" is not free. Lol. What an idiot. You're not allowed to import drugs for your family, even with a prescription.

But, you said free market..

This is so retarded. We "have socialism" in our government too. They are called social programs, like welfare and unemployment. I support these things.

That is a very different idea than a country solely founded and operated by socialist ideas. The ones who do that have always failed.

There's a reason why when bernie sanders tried to cite Denmark as an example of successful socialism, they said "Uhh fuck you, we are not socialist we are capitalist".

Venezuela has a massive oil resource, yet they are starving to death. That should be your first clue.

[Whale biologist]

This is so retarded. We "have socialism" in our government too. They are called social programs, like welfare and unemployment. I support these things.

That is a very different idea than a country solely founded and operated by socialist ideas. The ones who do that have always failed.

There's a reason why when bernie sanders tried to cite Denmark as an example of successful socialism, they said "Uhh fuck you, we are not socialist we are capitalist".

Just say Social Democracy, this is taking forever.

[Horza]

This is so retarded. We "have socialism" in our government too. They are called social programs, like welfare and unemployment. I support these things.

It doesn't work, it gets hundreds of millions of people wiped out. The united states meanwhile is a capitalist, free-market republic and is the most prosperous nation on earth, which everyone wants to live in (even rich people who bitch about it never move). Gee I wonder which system is better?

:confused:

[Ooloo]

What exactly is the confusion? Another failed gotcha.

I'm saying countries that are top-down fully socialst never work, all you have to do is open a history book.

There can be social programs, depending on the specific circumstances of the particular nation you're talking about.

We never had a war with the soviet union, it crumbled because it tried to go full socialist/communist. When you demand that all your productive farmers give over their labor for nothing, you lose them. Then millions of people starve to death.

Read the gulag archipelago

[Whale biologist]

What exactly is the confusion? Another failed gotcha.

I'm saying countries that are top-down fully socialst never work, all you have to do is open a history book.

There can be social programs, depending on the specific circumstances of the particular nation you're talking about.

We never had a war with the soviet union, it crumbled because it tried to go full socialist/communist. When you demand that all your productive farmers give over their labor for nothing, you lose them. Then millions of people starve to death.

Read the gulag archipelago

What's the difference between Social Democracy and Post Marxism?

[Ooloo]

What's the difference between Social Democracy and Post Marxism?

I don't know, elaborate the question. That could mean a million different things.

[Jibartik]

Us asgardians are going to enslave you all.

[Whale biologist]

I don't know, elaborate the question. That could mean a million different things.

You should find out and tell me, though they are very specific things. It would improve us both! :)

[Jibartik]

We can’t even define racism or boys and girls or life or what Black Lives Matter means, and you want us to define social democracy and Marxism?

:o

[Gravydoo II]

This is so retarded. We "have socialism" in our government too. They are called social programs, like welfare and unemployment. I support these things.

That is a very different idea than a country solely founded and operated by socialist ideas. The ones who do that have always failed.

There's a reason why when bernie sanders tried to cite Denmark as an example of successful socialism, they said "Uhh fuck you, we are not socialist we are capitalist".

Venezuela has a massive oil resource, yet they are starving to death. That should be your first clue.

You said it fails, every time, hundreds of millions dead. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS DEAD.

Without the soviet union, which was a dictatorship ran by ONE person. The court system was ONE person in Stalin. Signing 9000 death orders in a night was his record. Yeah, that sounds like like a communistic dictatorship. I can sit there and call this face the sky green ALLL day but that doesnt make it green. Like stalin and hitler were not socialists, call em whatever you want, but if your government amounts to one persons whims, thats not socialism.


You're far too stupid to understand any of this.
Just showed you 15 countries with socialist policies, now its "oh communism is bad" they are not interchangeable.

You know what other country has massive resources and one in five kids are going hungry?

Facts about poverty and hunger in America
Even in the world’s greatest food-producing nation, children and adults face poverty and hunger in every county across America.

34 million people lived in poverty in America. For a family of four, that means earning just $25,000 per year.
In 2020, more than 38 million people faced hunger in the United States, including more than 12 million children.
A household that is food insecure has limited or uncertain access to enough food to support a healthy life.
Children are more likely to face food insecurity than any other group in the United States.

DOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Homesteaded]

Socialism will never work in America, we are far to diverse on all markers. It works in small monoculture societies. Spin again face mask guy.

[Jibartik]

Socialism will only work when there are just enough of us left to hold this house of cards that is left of this planet together after capitalism finishes.

[Gravydoo II]

Wait wait, it went from NEVER working and resulting in hundreds of millions to deaths to "well it only works in small places"

LOLOLOL

[starkind]

Just because socialism may not work right now on a national level doesn't mean authoritarianism won't work on a global level.

I actually have no idea. I suspect authoritarianism is the natural end point of our irresponsible and undisciplined, negligent, behavior however.

[Whale biologist]

Wait wait, it went from NEVER working and resulting in hundreds of millions to deaths to "well it only works in small places"

LOLOLOL

You can skip replying to the guy subtly playing the race card next time please.

[starkind]

Replying is fun.

Tho.

I hope :p

[hobart]

Fast-forward couple of weeks.

Cripple retard Governor from Texas has made sure no one cares about Afghanistan anymore. Sleepy Joe's approval rating rebounding while the nation focuses on Y'all Queda. Texas Trumptards snatching defeat from the jaws of victory by motivating democrats in California to make sure Matthew Mcconaughey doesn't get recalled. Even idiot Rick Perry would have seen that coming and GWB certainly would have not fallen for it.

[Homesteaded]

Fast-forward couple of weeks.

Cripple retard Governor from Texas has made sure no one cares about Afghanistan anymore. Sleepy Joe's approval rating rebounding while the nation focuses on Y'all Queda. Texas Trumptards snatching defeat from the jaws of victory by motivating democrats in California to make sure Matthew Mcconaughey doesn't get recalled. Even idiot Rick Perry would have seen that coming and GWB certainly would have not fallen for it.

Another baby killer exposed.

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/EjOpHOV.jpg

[Mesocyclone]

You need to wear a mask!

With the vaccine, you don't need a mask!

With the new variants, you need two vaccines and wear two masks and stand twelve feet apart!

[Jibartik]

How could someone be baffled that socialism doesn't scale?

These are your top minds, left.

[Ooloo]

You said it fails, every time, hundreds of millions dead. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS DEAD.

Without the soviet union, which was a dictatorship ran by ONE person. The court system was ONE person in Stalin. Signing 9000 death orders in a night was his record. Yeah, that sounds like like a communistic dictatorship. I can sit there and call this face the sky green ALLL day but that doesnt make it green. Like stalin and hitler were not socialists, call em whatever you want, but if your government amounts to one persons whims, thats not socialism.


You're far too stupid to understand any of this.
Just showed you 15 countries with socialist policies, now its "oh communism is bad" they are not interchangeable.

You know what other country has massive resources and one in five kids are going hungry?

Facts about poverty and hunger in America
Even in the world’s greatest food-producing nation, children and adults face poverty and hunger in every county across America.

34 million people lived in poverty in America. For a family of four, that means earning just $25,000 per year.
In 2020, more than 38 million people faced hunger in the United States, including more than 12 million children.
A household that is food insecure has limited or uncertain access to enough food to support a healthy life.
Children are more likely to face food insecurity than any other group in the United States.

DOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Haha, yeah stalin only killed 9000 people. Right. Also I acknowledged that America has "socialist policies" which I support. You're interchanging socialist policies with a socialist government.

Go tell cuba or venezuela why it's a good system, not me.

Some people in america are in poverty yes. Also the definition of poverty in america is extremely bougie compared to actual socialist nations. The poor in america have iphones and food. "Food insecurity" is a completely misleading term, the poorest people in the country are also some of the fattest, so what's going on with that?

And you also haven't answered why immigrants want to come here in the first place. Why aren't people in south america clambering to get to venezuela? Or mexico? They are enduring an extremely arduous journey to get *here*. Why is that, if it's so bad?

[Jibartik]

Stalin killed like one and a half million people in the great purge or something.

[starkind]

Stalin killed like one and a half million people in the great purge or something.

Did he really? Personally? Like. Even order that many deaths? And how many of those people died because they were just like old. Or immunocompromised. Or obese anyway. Or just plain rude?

[Jibartik]

Personally, they were executions. They were Russian tho so Im sure many were obese and rude yea.

[starkind]

Personally, they were executions. They were Russian tho so Im sure many were obese and rude yea.

So he like made a note and put "plz kill a half mil" or maybe he did all those zeros. That's a lot of zeroes.

Then he signed it. -stalin, plz, k, and thx

I guess what rly blow my mind is how many ppl followed his orders. Even with a hundred ppl, it'd take for evar to kill half a mil.

I'm not saying ur a liar, or that he didn't kill half a mil. Just like holy fuckn hell. That is pretty hard.

Anyway. I did a quick Google of 2018s usa statistics. The USA killed 2,839,205, is that almost 3mil? Ppl. In one entire year. Idk who to blame or why any of them died tho.

[Gravydoo II]

Did he really? Personally? Like. Even order that many deaths? And how many of those people died because they were just like old. Or immunocompromised. Or obese anyway. Or just plain rude?

Literally signed thousands of execution orders, every single night. Yeah, his record is over 9000 in a night. Look it up.

[Gravydoo II]

Haha, yeah stalin only killed 9000 people. Right. Also I acknowledged that America has "socialist policies" which I support. You're interchanging socialist policies with a socialist government.



Read it again, retard. That was 9000 IN ONE NIGHT.

Retard, you realize when your government has SOCIALIST ASPECT/Policies and programs to it, its democratic socialism. We, kindaaaaa have that, but only for old people.

So such thing as a "socialist government" what the fuck does that even mean??

Dumb as fuck.

Its almost like you suck at reading. You a republican? They do hate them some reading..

[Mesocyclone]

Trump says he has no choice but to run again in 2024, as President Joe Biden has remained divisive and incompetent.

[starkind]

I still find it hard to believe. At some point your wrist just gives out. Are you sure they aren't forged. Like his successor didn't just force some comrads to forge a few boxes of orders and stuff them in a corner?

[Mesocyclone]

Hitler killed 15 million Russians, and 6 million Jews. However, the European white man killed almost every single native "American".

[starkind]

Hitler killed 15 million Russians, and 6 million Jews. However, the European white man killed almost every single native "American".
I've met natives irl or the indigenous or whatever they want to be called. From a few different tribes or nations or clans, I'm not sure which is ok to say. On their reservations. And one even was a soldier during Vietnam that talked about his tour on a military base. And one at a supermarket where I live.

I'm hardly an expert. There are still lots of them around. It's not like only 10 of them survived.

Also I was told that the real damage was forcing missions and schools and kidnapping them when they where children so they lost a lot of their culture and where forcibly indoctrinated into Christianity and science based faith. More like enslavement and reprogramming or brainwashing than straight up genocide.

[Gravydoo II]

I still find it hard to believe. At some point your wrist just gives out. Are you sure they aren't forged. Like his successor didn't just force some comrads to forge a few boxes of orders and stuff them in a corner?

Watch the documentary. After he died, his closest friends/confidants in the party told the stories about their nights with him. They would sit in Stalins house and get wasted. Then, they would have the orders all brought it for approval and stalin would approve of every execution, or send them to the gulag. Every single name, he would personally check, then sign it.

Then, when he saw a name like a member of his family or former allie, he would usually have them do a dime in a survivable gulag. If they wrote him a letter like "wtf uncle why u do dis to me?" he would send them to one of the not-so-survivable gulags.

I thought everyone was gonna be a starkind, starkind.

[Gravydoo II]

Hitler killed 15 million Russians, and 6 million Jews. However, the European white man killed almost every single native "American".

Spanish slavers killed estimated 110 million people or more with their diseases.. You're not a "conquistador" you're a slaver.. lol.

[Jibartik]

They would sit in Stalins house and get wasted. Then, they would have the orders all brought it for approval and stalin would approve of every execution, or send them to the gulag. Every single name, he would personally check, then sign it.

I know a few people here that would be down for this :(

[Gravydoo II]

I know a few people here that would be down for this :(

No need. The people who want to die are dying. No need to force anyone.

[Whale biologist]

Retard, you realize when your government has SOCIALIST ASPECT/Policies and programs to it, its democratic socialism. We, kindaaaaa have that, but only for old people.

So such thing as a "socialist government" what the fuck does that even mean??


Nuh uh. DemSoc is worker ownership of the production means. US senior program aren't that at all.

Soc Dem is capitalism with social programs.

Turns out the Lefties Doug likes to yell about were inside him all along (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJuMBdaqIw).

[Jibartik]

The problem with soc dem is that once you say ok lets do social programs they go

OK here's 5000 words I wrote 10 minuets ago about how you're a racist and owe hard labor and what you dont owe on your mortage.

:o

[Mesocyclone]

Impeach him

Harris chuckles at every question because she has the IQ of a lima bean and screwed her way to the top of the pile of shit in Washington.

Those that exalt themselves will be humbled.

Those that humble themselves before the Living God will be exalted.

[Gravydoo II]

Impeach him

Harris chuckles at every question because she has the IQ of a lima bean and screwed her way to the top of the pile of shit in Washington.

Those that exalt themselves will be humbled.

Those that humble themselves before the Living God will be exalted.

LOL this guy has lost it.

How come your god didnt stop it? Being all powerful and all.. I know god cares A LOT about elections in america but not so much for other countries.

Weird.. can do anything except get people to vote for a rape daddy.

[Mesocyclone]

He is incompetent and needs to be impeached immediately and the Vice President is beyond ridiculously shallow and stupid. They need to go.

You lost the Supreme Court (thanks Trump) and you will never get it back and you will never kill babies in Texas again and more states are joining in.

[starkind]

I thought everyone was gonna be a starkind, starkind.

Already are. Those people are forever a part of you and me. Even Stalin. They're not separate from Starkind. Starkind starkinds.

[Gravydoo II]

Already are. Those people are forever a part of you and me. Even Stalin. They're not separate from Starkind. Starkind starkinds.

I was promised a parade, too.

Lets work on that. lol

[Toxigen]

Already are. Those people are forever a part of you and me. Even Stalin. They're not separate from Starkind. Starkind starkinds.

https://i.imgur.com/VyxkqoR.jpg

[Mesocyclone]

If Elder wins California, Pelosi is gonna have to make many trips to the ABC store for Vodka.

[starkind]

The problem with soc dem is that once you say ok lets do social programs they go

OK here's 5000 words I wrote 10 minuets ago about how you're a racist and owe hard labor and what you dont owe on your mortage.

:o
This is 100% tru unfortunately. Everyone does it. Don't you know? Look at least I'm not the racist one! Kill him first...

You will all love this.

C7aWz8q_IM4
Yep. Parties flipped!

Bonus points:
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This is liek the most deep and detailed political research I've done in awhile. So plz watch all of it and validate me.

Plz

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/VyxkqoR.jpg

Omfg if real that's a rare and absolute truth. R.i.p. guys.

I love you.

I really mean it!

[Gravydoo II]

He is incompetent and needs to be impeached immediately and the Vice President is beyond ridiculously shallow and stupid. They need to go.

You lost the Supreme Court (thanks Trump) and you will never get it back and you will never kill babies in Texas again and more states are joining in.

Texas law is already struck down by supreme court.

State law does not trump constitution. (see what i did there?)

Might wanna read up on that whole, 14th amendment thing.

Check it out

Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Roe v wade is a done deal.

Lucky for us, we dont make laws based on magic and fanciful shit like LOTR, the legend of zelda, or the bible.

The rules of your religion only apply to you.

[Mesocyclone]

You people seem like you're in the same cult. They know God is real just as much as I do but they are on team Satan.

So be it. Good luck with Armageddon War.

[starkind]

So I take it ya'll liked Lenin more than Stalin?

[Gravydoo II]

Omfg if real that's a rare and absolute truth. R.i.p. guys.

I love you.

I really mean it!

Profound. Thats the word you want. Profound.

[Toxigen]

I like Teddy Roosevelt.

He'd never have put us in that towel-head shithole in the first place.

[starkind]

I like Teddy Roosevelt.

Me too. He is one of Starkinds favorites!

[Mesocyclone]

My favorite President is our current President - Donald John Trump Junior

Trump says jump, Biden asks him "How high?"

[Gravydoo II]

I like Teddy Roosevelt.

He'd never have put us in that towel-head shithole in the first place.

Lol whos us?

You're talking like you were deployed. LOL

I wonder why american troops adopted the keffiyah....? Wouldnt that make them "towel heads" too??
Pretty much everyone had a cover or those "towels" on their heads.

Ohhhhhh, you meant it like a racial/ethnic slur, I get it now.

[starkind]

Sunscreen is expensive and no one cool wants to pay to live in a hot place like Afghanistan lol.

I saw ur parade comment Gravydoo. I hope you get what you want!

[Mesocyclone]

I say jump and Soros asks "How high?"

Dude got a shoe thrown at him.

The gulf has another tropical system in mid September. CLIMATE CHAAAAAANGE!

Al Gore KNEW these systems would be coming in the Gulf of Mexico in summer!

[Gravydoo II]

You people seem like you're in the same cult. They know God is real just as much as I do but they are on team Satan.

So be it. Good luck with Armageddon War.

So be what?? What the fuck are you on about??

We can both play this game.

My god created the multi-verse, dimensions of space not yet known by human minds, and all the other little do-boy gods like Yaweh to do his bidding.

So not only is my god older, bigger, stronger, smarter and every measure superior to your god, he also created your god as a servant to him.

You know hes real but you just deny it. You must be in a cult.

I would say his name but its so powerful, you'd just die if you read it. All your skin would just fly off.

[Mesocyclone]

"A Chicago mom fatally shot her 12-year-old son in the head on Saturday morning in a rage over a missing memory card, prosecutors allege."

[starkind]

"A Chicago mom fatally shot her 12-year-old son in the head on Saturday morning in a rage over a missing memory card, prosecutors allege."

She unfortunately needs forever daycare. I bet out in 6 years tho.

I am just saying in all likelihood. There's not really any coming back from that.

Who knows in 12 years she could become an internet celebrity teaching gun safety or advocating for gun bans tho.

[starkind]

So be what?? What the fuck are you on about??

We can both play this game.

My god created the multi-verse, dimensions of space not yet known by human minds, and all the other little do-boy gods like Yaweh to do his bidding.

So not only is my god older, bigger, stronger, smarter and every measure superior to your god, he also created your god as a servant to him.

You know hes real but you just deny it. You must be in a cult.

I would say his name but its so powerful, you'd just die if you read it. All your skin would just fly off.

That's basically the everquest plot for how dark elves make their superior armor. So in a way it's kinda real.

[Toxigen]

"A Chicago mom fatally shot her 12-year-old son in the head on Saturday morning in a rage over a missing memory card, prosecutors allege."

black lives matter

[Gravydoo II]

"A Chicago mom fatally shot her 12-year-old son in the head on Saturday morning in a rage over a missing memory card, prosecutors allege."

Is this supposed to mean something? Ohhh i see it now.. Its got the word "chicago" in it.

As far as I can tell from the people on this forum, nothing bad has ever happened to anyone, ever, except in Chicago. I wonder why someone would make a point to point out every crime committed in a city with a large african american population?? Almost as if they want to paint an imagine of a place where the residents are animals or subhuman.

I wonder why someone would want to do that.. almost like, they need to reinforce a belief they have about a certain group of people or area..

[Gravydoo II]

That's basically the everquest plot for how dark elves make their superior armor. So in a way it's kinda real.

Like "oh yea?! We're gonna dig up even OLDER rocks than yours! Then we're gonna use even older hammers, smelters, and techniques!" lol

[Mesocyclone]

That's so fucking crazy to even try to comprehend it makes this dude ^ look sane. The entire point of her life was to protect him.

[starkind]

I guess she doesn't need to worry about abortion this one time now.

[Gravydoo II]

That's so fucking crazy to even try to comprehend it makes this dude ^ look sane. The entire point of her life was to protect him.

LOL the hardcore christian is judging me. How dare you disobey your gods orders.

[Ooloo]

Is this supposed to mean something? Ohhh i see it now.. Its got the word "chicago" in it.

As far as I can tell from the people on this forum, nothing bad has ever happened to anyone, ever, except in Chicago. I wonder why someone would make a point to point out every crime committed in a city with a large african american population?? Almost as if they want to paint an imagine of a place where the residents are animals or subhuman.

I wonder why someone would want to do that.. almost like, they need to reinforce a belief they have about a certain group of people or area..

People talk about crime in chicago because it's a major problem. Nobody is saying anything about anyone being "animals", it's as if you're subconsciously projecting that. For some reason that concept is bouncing around in your head, not anyone elses.

Yes crime happens in other places too. Groundbreaking stuff.

[starkind]

People talk about crime in chicago because it's a major problem. Nobody is saying anything about anyone being "animals", it's as if you're subconsciously projecting that. For some reason that concept is bouncing around in your head, not anyone elses.

Yes crime happens in other places too. Groundbreaking stuff.

As a hard right left progressive conservative social libertarian and fiscal authoritarian and communist.

I actually agree with u. That's the same feel I got too.

[Ooloo]

Lefty dorks like gravy are the ones standing in the way of anything improving, because as soon as you bring up crime in chicago they come running in like the virtue signal police to accuse you of being racist because many of the criminals are black. He fails to realize almost all the *victims* are black and latino, and their neighborhoods are suffering. They want MORE police there, not less. He'd know that if he ever left his house and actually talked to them himself.

[Gustoo]

I just got off the phone with Danold Trump he told me that the USA was never actually in Afghanistan.

Can someone confirm?

[Toxigen]

literally more blacks killed other blacks in one bad weekend in chicago than cops killed blacks for an entire year in the country

let that sink in

[Gravydoo II]

Lefty dorks like gravy are the ones standing in the way of anything improving, because as soon as you bring up crime in chicago they come running in like the virtue signal police to accuse you of being racist because many of the criminals are black. He fails to realize almost all the *victims* are black and latino, and their neighborhoods are suffering. They want MORE police there, not less. He'd know that if he ever left his house and actually talked to them himself.

LOL cause the right wingers (you guys) never use chicago as an allegory for "black people are bad". Deny it all you want but Ive never ever heard you guys mention another city besides chicago or portland. Both places are full of people you hate, libs, democrats, and black people.

You're right, black people are the victims of racism.

CHICAGO — Chicago police are stopping Black drivers overwhelmingly more often than white drivers, according to a state report.

Illinois Traffic and Pedestrian Stop Study data shows police are pulling over Chicago drivers more in recent years than ever before. It also shows massive racial disparities in how the roadways are policed: Chicago police stopped more than 204,000 Black drivers in 2020, compared to just over 35,000 white drivers.

You mad your little allegory got called out? Dont be mad. Rape daddy will listen

Then you come crying because I called you out. Look at all of you! HAHAHAHAHA

[Gravydoo II]

Lefty dorks like gravy are the ones standing in the way of anything improving, because as soon as you bring up crime in chicago they come running in like the virtue signal police to accuse you of being racist because many of the criminals are black. He fails to realize almost all the *victims* are black and latino, and their neighborhoods are suffering. They want MORE police there, not less. He'd know that if he ever left his house and actually talked to them himself.

Again.
CHICAGO — Chicago police are stopping Black drivers overwhelmingly more often than white drivers, according to a state report.

Illinois Traffic and Pedestrian Stop Study data shows police are pulling over Chicago drivers more in recent years than ever before. It also shows massive racial disparities in how the roadways are policed: Chicago police stopped more than 204,000 Black drivers in 2020, compared to just over 35,000 white drivers.

Thats racism. Pretty easy to see.

You'd be wrong and really stupid to believe that police dont pick where and who they want to enforce the law against.

[Horza]

literally more blacks killed other blacks in one bad weekend in chicago than cops killed blacks for an entire year in the country

let that sink in

I wonder why you're so fixated on people who aren't white.

[Gravydoo II]

Hmmmm... Now that is a mystery. Has he EVER mentioned his home town or any crime that has ever happened there..?

I wonder why he always chooses areas with POC like arabs or black people to talk about how utterly terrible it is there, having never been. Almost like hes saying "the people are bad and this is the result.". lol

Weird how he knows all these stats about a city hes never been to.. Its almost like he can only remember the stats that are convenient to his overall point, which he never makes. He'll just post and stat and say "let that sink in" like hes too afraid to keep going.

I wonder what the mods thought about his comment about arabs and their choice of head wear? Weird how he used an ethnic slur to describe those people of color but when hes talking about american people of color, he would never used a racist or ethic slur against those people. LOL

[unsunghero]

LOL cause the right wingers (you guys) never use chicago as an allegory for "black people are bad". Deny it all you want but Ive never ever heard you guys mention another city besides chicago or portland. Both places are full of people you hate, libs, democrats, and black people

Technically no, it’s not “full of” black people. Chicago is 50% white, 30% black. So when murder is mentioned, it must be the white people doing it since they are the majority there. Or if it is black people, then somehow the cops are making them do it. Or the evil guns are walking around doing it without owners

I’ll tell you whose fault it’s NOT though

[Trexller]

Again.
CHICAGO — Chicago police are stopping Black drivers overwhelmingly more often than white drivers, according to a state report.

Illinois Traffic and Pedestrian Stop Study data shows police are pulling over Chicago drivers more in recent years than ever before. It also shows massive racial disparities in how the roadways are policed: Chicago police stopped more than 204,000 Black drivers in 2020, compared to just over 35,000 white drivers.

Thats racism. Pretty easy to see.

You'd be wrong and really stupid to believe that police dont pick where and who they want to enforce the law against.

Since you like statistics so much, go ahead and look up your own references on this:

African americans are orders of magnitude more likely to ignore traffic signals, respond to officer's questions in a belligerent/resistant manner, be in possession of weapons, narcotics, contraband in general. African americans often drive vehicles with illegal modifications, dark tints, lug extensions to mount those tires that stick out, expired registrations, tags etc.

Do your own research, I'd start with the NTSB then FBI stats.

The main thing, is the attitude of how they respond to cops, they see these officers as oppressors, when they are just trying to perform a job (that you and I pay them to do) Policemen work shit jobs for long hours. Every single "routine traffic stop" could be their last act on earth. I'm sure you have all seen bodycam footage of a cop making a traffic stop, and the driver just starts shooting.

So, a little bit of respect goes 1000 miles when you get stopped by police. They don't want to harass you if they don't have to.

I have been arrested 4 times in my life, I had a short stay in jail (not prison) twice. At no time was I ever mistreated by the police, detectives, or corrections officers. the detectives even worked with me to lessen the charges against me.

Why did they do this? Because I was straight up, honest, and respectful.

Oh, and before you try to make this a racial thing, I AM NOT A WHITE MAN.

[Horza]

Oh, and before you try to make this a racial thing

:D

[starkind]

Why is Chicago so dangerous can anyone tell me the truth? At least as you see it.

Why would a mom shoot her 12 years old kid over a memory card?

I'm not even going to start by assuming their race or gender, faith or political party. I bet it runs deeper than that even if some of those things factored in.

How could race factor you say? Maybe she was abused, neglected, or demonized by the media or her teachers, or never had a good job because she's a member of an oppressed minority.

That is still not the real reason though, I wager. There has to be more to it. And even if it was it doesn't make it ok. Or someone else's fault. She still chose to pull that trigger. Even if her demographic was different. It's still bad, and there's still a reason. And it still doesn't reflect on others of her demographic.

I'm even open to speculation.

Why?

My best guess, abuse, neglect, child abuse. Drugs. Poverty. And it's still not ok.

Tell me guys. And tell us how to fix it. Or give people the opportunity to fix it. These things will always happen as long as memory cards, mothers, and children exist. So how do we deal with this instance skillfully. Learn from it. And at least offer people the opportunity to avoid it again.

[Gravydoo II]

Since you like statistics so much, go ahead and look up your own references on this:

African americans are orders of magnitude more likely to ignore traffic signals, respond to officer's questions in a belligerent/resistant manner, be in possession of weapons, narcotics, contraband in general. African americans often drive vehicles with illegal modifications, dark tints, lug extensions to mount those tires that stick out, expired registrations, tags etc.

Do your own research, I'd start with the NTSB then FBI stats.

The main thing, is the attitude of how they respond to cops, they see these officers as oppressors, when they are just trying to perform a job (that you and I pay them to do) Policemen work shit jobs for long hours. Every single "routine traffic stop" could be their last act on earth. I'm sure you have all seen bodycam footage of a cop making a traffic stop, and the driver just starts shooting.

So, a little bit of respect goes 1000 miles when you get stopped by police. They don't want to harass you if they don't have to.

I have been arrested 4 times in my life, I had a short stay in jail (not prison) twice. At no time was I ever mistreated by the police, detectives, or corrections officers. the detectives even worked with me to lessen the charges against me.

Why did they do this? Because I was straight up, honest, and respectful.

Oh, and before you try to make this a racial thing, I AM NOT A WHITE MAN.

Your personal experience is your personal experience. Thats called anecdotal evidence.

African americans are orders of magnitude more likely to ignore traffic signals, respond to officer's questions in a belligerent/resistant manner, be in possession of weapons, narcotics, contraband in general. African americans often drive vehicles with illegal modifications, dark tints, lug extensions to mount those tires that stick out, expired registrations, tags etc.

^^^^^ This is extremely racist ^^^^^^^

You're a racist. That was easy. You actually believe that black people are just simply more predisposed to being criminals and they have it coming?? The police are justified, always, is what you're saying. Well they COULD have a gun or they COULD have a suspended license so we better pull them over to check.

Thats called racial profiling. That racism. You support that, apparently.

Yeah I would be upset too if I was pulled over for something you ignore when they are white. The proof is in the stats. They simply pull over black people 7x's more than white people. They never said they are criminals 7x more than white people.

You're a racist. You can be whatever color you want but you just admitted you're a piece of shit. Thanks.

[Gravydoo II]

Since you like statistics so much, go ahead and look up your own references on this:

African americans are orders of magnitude more likely to ignore traffic signals, respond to officer's questions in a belligerent/resistant manner, be in possession of weapons, narcotics, contraband in general. African americans often drive vehicles with illegal modifications, dark tints, lug extensions to mount those tires that stick out, expired registrations, tags etc.



Damn bro take off that hood. Jesus christ you're a fucking piece of shit. What a fucking racist asshole.

If you pull over black people who are not the majority 7x's more than the majority, thats selective enforcement, AKA RACISM. To justify it with your comment above, thats just racism as well. You're a racist. Congrats, you fucking piece of shit. I dont care what color you are, you're full of hate, ignorance, and I know for a 100% fact you wouldnt say this anywhere where you real name was attached to it. You fucking racist pussy.

I sent your comment to the mods =] Lets see what they think.

Bye bye

[unsunghero]

Why is Chicago so dangerous can anyone tell me the truth? At least as you see it.

Why would a mom shoot her 12 years old kid over a memory card?

I'm not even going to start by assuming their race or gender, faith or political party. I bet it runs deeper than that even if some of those things factored in.

How could race factor you say? Maybe she was abused, neglected, or demonized by the media or her teachers, or never had a good job because she's a member of an oppressed minority.

That is still not the real reason though, I wager. There has to be more to it. And even if it was it doesn't make it ok. Or someone else's fault. She still chose to pull that trigger. Even if her demographic was different. It's still bad, and there's still a reason. And it still doesn't reflect on others of her demographic.

I'm even open to speculation.

Why?

My best guess, abuse, neglect, child abuse. Drugs. Poverty. And it's still not ok.

Tell me guys. And tell us how to fix it. Or give people the opportunity to fix it. These things will always happen as long as memory cards, mothers, and children exist. So how do we deal with this instance skillfully. Learn from it. And at least offer people the opportunity to avoid it again.

Criticisms/Needs:

Positive male role mode in home (highest rate of single motherhood in the us)

Positive role models in the community, doesn’t have to be male

Job opportunities

More trust of police (I don’t think this will ever change even if police became literally perfect overnight). There is a cultural unwillingness to work with or assist law enforcement which makes law enforcement’s job much harder which leads to more crime

Less brainwashing by Dems for the black vote, more personal accountability and a sense of agency in life


Things I like/respect about the black community:

Extreme loyalty to what they perceive as their ethnicity’s interest. I think this ultimately hurts them because those interests are being manipulated by Democrats for political purposes at a cost to the community, but no other ethnicity in the US has a stronger sense of loyalty to itself and tribalism then the black community, and loyalty is always to be respected

Respect for having a tougher past in the US than other ethnicities, including a few decades ago

On a personal note, I have a strong attraction to black girls as an ethnicity. Never dated one, always wanted to but been too worried they would hate me for my political views. Totally willing and have flirted with black co-workers not when on the clock however. Surprisingly not really all that into Candace Owen though. She’s objectively good looking, but personality wise she seems like she could be too intense even for me, and I like an assertive girl personality

[Horza]

Less brainwashing by Dems for the black vote, more personal accountability and a sense of agency in life

Good luck convincing black voters to support GOP candidates when the party's base is overwhelmingly racist hicks.

[Toxigen]

it wont be hard when they're barred from their jobs, stores, etc due to loon-lefty jab mandates

[Whale biologist]

Why is Chicago so dangerous can anyone tell me the truth? At least as you see it.


Chicago(and therefore Illinois) will always be a bastion of the militant left due to it's heritage in the Haymarket Riot. Her bones remember what they did to incite it.

[Gravydoo II]

it wont be hard when they're barred from their jobs, stores, etc due to loon-lefty jab mandates

Oh yeah, we're sooooo sure its black people. The anti-science GOP is just FULL to the brim with black people saying "we're not taking any vaccines!" LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Once again, you're a racist and a pussy.

Passing laws that intentionally effect POC more than white people? Making it more difficult to vote for POC? Taking away DMV's, polling stations, and drop boxes in the counties with the largest POC populations, awwhh just a coincidence! They just happen to target POC at every turn. Its the only appeal their party has.


Without racism, what is the GOP?? A group of old white guys obsessed with black people, gays, abortion, and Qanon.


This is hilarious.

[Jibartik]

You guys sure know a lot about black people.

[unsunghero]

Good luck convincing black voters to support GOP candidates when the party's base is overwhelmingly racist hicks.

Ya maybe the GOP regardless of whether you perceive it as due to racism or not, could be too heavy handed on criticism. There is obviously such a thing as too much criticism, especially all at once. And the other reality is that the black community perceives the GOP as racist and doesn’t respect them, and criticism is always more productive as an agent of change if it’s coming from someone the person respects

But a lack of criticism is not at all healthy either. And I can’t recall a democrat politician ever once offering a significant criticism of the community. I think Hillary almost accidentally did once by calling black gang members “predators” or something, and she got put through the ringer about it and had to do a little PR campaign. There’s the issue of no criticism leads to no self-reflection and personal growth, but there’s also the fact that no criticism makes it harder to actually accept criticism gracefully as well. Of course obviously issues like gun violence are mentioned, but it’s always followed by “its your past, it’s the cops, it’s the guns” as sort of a deflection of responsibility

[Jibartik]

Thank god the black community has you guys analyzing them to create legislation to stop all of the problems you've analyzed they are causing (not by their own fault of course it was the previous legislation).

something something both sides

[Innoruukk]

Man what a cool thread

[Whale biologist]

Was this the abortion thread? I forget.

Anyway please enjoy this meme but only if you want to.

https://i.imgur.com/kuTx8nl.png

[Trexller]

Damn bro take off that hood. Jesus christ you're a fucking piece of shit. What a fucking racist asshole.

If you pull over black people who are not the majority 7x's more than the majority, thats selective enforcement, AKA RACISM. To justify it with your comment above, thats just racism as well. You're a racist. Congrats, you fucking piece of shit. I dont care what color you are, you're full of hate, ignorance, and I know for a 100% fact you wouldnt say this anywhere where you real name was attached to it. You fucking racist pussy.

I sent your comment to the mods =] Lets see what they think.

Bye bye

My name IRL is Andrew Beil

you think they are gonna have problems with NTSB statistics?

I'm not white. You are. According to the lefties, only white people can be racist.

Gravydoo, im feeling the Asian hate. Why do you hate Korean people so much?

[starkind]

Chicago(and therefore Illinois) will always be a bastion of the militant left due to it's heritage in the Haymarket Riot. Her bones remember what they did to incite it.
Interesting read.
You guys sure know a lot about black people.

Thank god the black community has you guys analyzing them to create legislation to stop all of the problems you've analyzed they are causing (not by their own fault of course it was the previous legislation).

something something both sides
Lol. I have no clue rly.
Criticisms/Needs:

Positive male role mode in home (highest rate of single motherhood in the us)

Positive role models in the community, doesn’t have to be male

Job opportunities

More trust of police (I don’t think this will ever change even if police became literally perfect overnight). There is a cultural unwillingness to work with or assist law enforcement which makes law enforcement’s job much harder which leads to more crime

Less brainwashing by Dems for the black vote, more personal accountability and a sense of agency in life


Things I like/respect about the black community:

Extreme loyalty to what they perceive as their ethnicity’s interest. I think this ultimately hurts them because those interests are being manipulated by Democrats for political purposes at a cost to the community, but no other ethnicity in the US has a stronger sense of loyalty to itself and tribalism then the black community, and loyalty is always to be respected

Respect for having a tougher past in the US than other ethnicities, including a few decades ago

On a personal note, I have a strong attraction to black girls as an ethnicity. Never dated one, always wanted to but been too worried they would hate me for my political views. Totally willing and have flirted with black co-workers not when on the clock however. Surprisingly not really all that into Candace Owen though. She’s objectively good looking, but personality wise she seems like she could be too intense even for me, and I like an assertive girl personality

I agree about the lack of opportunities. Male role models. And single mother issues. Modern society probably keeps the mothers away or in a perpetual cycle of abusive relationships. And I bet the kids are raised by Xbox and ps2 or whatever and only the lucky ones are privileged enough to gain access to Skyrim.

Anyway I appreciate everyone's thoughts. And I don't know any better. I wish these people could emancipate themselves from their circumstances. Not because I blame them. Just that it's unlikely someone else will or can do it for them.

And you know what? Independence is great. It's probably the second best medicine next to laughter.

I don't wish subservience or dependence on anyone. Even if it's inevitable do to circumstance. Or power dynamic.

[Jibartik]

Chose wisley

forced babykills https://i.imgur.com/4IeyGQZ.gif forced dna GMOs

[Smoofers]

literally more blacks killed other blacks in one bad weekend in chicago than cops killed blacks for an entire year in the country

let that sink in

[Whale biologist]

According to the lefties, only white people can be racist.


According to Critical Theory ! :)

[starkind]

Chose wisley

forced babykills https://i.imgur.com/4IeyGQZ.gif forced dna GMOs

https://i.imgur.com/WXfuedi.gif

[Toxigen]

guys guys guys

facts are racist

autistic screeching intensifies

[Jibartik]

Img

https://i.imgur.com/2vNPAfC.jpg

[Blistig]

This is a forum for a free video game. Take this garbage back to facebook and 4chan.