Is green + blue confirmed merging?

[Tunabros]

Are they merging for real? Is it after the last patch?

When they merge, will the rulesets on green transfer to blue (no custom UI, no pet

window, etc)?

What happens to my characters?

Any ACTUAL confirmation on this information? (No, "yeah Devs confirmed it" with no evidence)

Because if there's a new server after, you bet your ass I'll be in guk farming a guise for

my barbarian shaman (all points in stamina btw)

[Convict]

all good questions that probably wont be answered for a long time

but if I have to guess for the second question, I'd guess based off the verbage used "green will roll INTO blue" that blue will remain the host server and it will keep blues rulesets.

[Ooloo]

Don't think there's been any kind of official confirmation one way or the other. That was the initial plan but they've had a couple years to mull it over now, maybe they aren't going to go through with it. If they don't merge it though, it's hard to say what green's fate will be. I highly doubt they'll start a new green alongside current green AND blue all as independent servers.

All I know is that I'm pumped as hell for a fresh vanilla server launch cause this game is evil.

[Tunabros]

Like I'm not sure I want to start up another character and level it just for a new server

to come out

[pink grapefruit]

Maybe blue should be merged into red and the current characters on green become the new blue server.

This is best-case scenario tbh.

[Polixa]

There would be a lot of instant plat millionaires once those List items become available for sale on post-merge Blue.

[Izmael]

Rogean and Nilbog probably have no clue whatsoever about this.

[Tewaz]

You can count on them not telling us and it just happening or not happening.

[Tunabros]

Maybe blue should be merged into red and the current characters on green become the new blue server.

This is best-case scenario tbh.

can you please stfu about red

no one cares

asking about things like "make raid zones pvp" or "merge server into red" is so cringe

just why

[Chuckleberry]

Maybe blue should be merged into red and the current characters on green become the new blue server.

This is best-case scenario tbh.

God I really hope they do!

[Videri]

1. September 19, 2019: Nilbog posts "Introducing Project 1999: Green (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333743)". Quote:
Green Lifetime
The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023)."

2. October 21, 2019: Rogean posts "Project 1999 Green Trailer (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2992789&highlight=merge#post2992789)". Quote:
Server Merge - The staff has had considerable discussion internally regarding the merging of Green into Blue at the end of the timeline. We've heard your concerns. At this time, we haven't made a final decision, but we have also decided that we will leave the door open. A lot can change in 3 years, and we may chose to leave Green running independently as we open additional servers in the future.

3. I searched these forums for posts that include the word "merge" by Rogean (https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=20082952), Nilbog (https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=20082954), Llandris (https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=20082956), Menden (search found nothing), and Blistig (search found nothing).

[Tunabros]

I hope they delete red + blue and make green the new blue and then make a new server

all you red cucks can go to rise of zek or TLP

[pink grapefruit]

can you please stfu about red

no one cares

asking about things like "make raid zones pvp" or "merge server into red" is so cringe

just why

bluebie pls.

the only reason many of us are here is bc we're waiting for the next pvp iteration of p99. and with the state of blue server atm being what it is, merging it to red seems like a pretty good idea. it would prevent those "million plat sales" mentioned in the other post, too.

be kind imo.

[Tunabros]

bluebie pls.

the only reason many of us are here is bc we're waiting for the next pvp iteration of p99. and with the state of blue server atm being what it is, merging it to red seems like a pretty good idea. it would prevent those "million plat sales" mentioned in the other post, too.

be kind imo.

welcome to Tunabros's Ignore List!

[Chuckleberry]

Uh oh

[Ooloo]

Like I'm not sure I want to start up another character and level it just for a new server

to come out

Nah it's all about that leveling journey. That's when the interesting stuff happens. Like I just made another shaman even though I have one already, just so I could choose a different race, and it's fun as hell just leveling up.

Starting a new char and starting a new server aren't really that different when you think about it.

[Mesocyclone]

- Everquest PVP is imbalanced and horrible and anyone with a brain rolls a bard.
- Whether Green99 merges or not matters not because the real nerds like me will be balls to the wall on Green2 and forget this box.

[Videri]

3. I searched these forums for posts that include the word "merge" by Rogean (https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=20082952), Nilbog (https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=20082954), Llandris (https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=20082956), Menden (search found nothing), and Blistig (search found nothing).

Oops, none of my links work. :p You can use Advanced Search and find all posts by those posters with the word "merge" in them. When I searched, I found no posts that confirm the Great Merging either way. Therefore, we can only conclude that it is not confirmed. Possible, not impossible, but not confirmed.

[loramin]

Look, for the staff to keep any server that isn't Red (Red gets a pass because having a PvP server is more classic than not having one), it needs a minimum viable population.

Now, I don't know what R&N consider to be minimum viable numbers, but I'd think maybe 600+ at prime time? Heck, maybe they're more generous, and will keep a server around with 300 population.

When Green 2.0 comes out a lot of the Green 1.0 population is going to switch to playing on it. It seems highly unlikely that there will be even 300, let alone 600+ players sticking around to play on Green 1.0, once 2.0 is out.

... all of which is my way of saying "no one knows the answer ... but it sure seems likely Green is going to merge". :)

[Danth]

can you please stfu about red

Somehow it's mildly amusing watching reddies raging over blue being more popular than their failed server and trying--still, after all this time--to get blue ruined out of spite.

Only problem with leaving Green and Blue both up is at the end of Green's timespan they're effectively the same. Red stays open due to its unique ruleset. Custom UI, pet window, and cycle targeting are pretty slim reasons to keep two otherwise identical communities separate, especially when both of said communities can expect to take a further population dip if and when a Green 2.0 opens.

Danth

[Zuranthium]

Red is the superior server, not failed, it's there waiting for more people to play again. People should go there if they don't want to waste so much time and want more excitement, and more opportunity to actually do the content, instead of sitting around at piled-on camps with non-classic rules. Red deserves a better ruleset, but it's still better than playing the braindead PvE servers.

Ideally they merge the current Red into Blue, and start the server over with a better ruleset and not going past Kunark (unless they gonna totally rebalance Velious too, which is definitely not happening).

[Swish]

Somehow it's mildly amusing watching reddies raging over blue being more popular than their failed server and trying--still, after all this time--to get blue ruined out of spite.

Only problem with leaving Green and Blue both up is at the end of Green's timespan they're effectively the same. Red stays open due to its unique ruleset. Custom UI, pet window, and cycle targeting are pretty slim reasons to keep two otherwise identical communities separate, especially when both of said communities can expect to take a further population dip if and when a Green 2.0 opens.

Danth

It's funny watching petitionquest happen month after month, then funnier in RNF because people point fingers for others petitioning, then petition themselves. It seems you can't pvp your way out of any problem and have to go to elf court.

P99 elf court should be a live 24/7 stream where GMs talk to players in the discord chat and solve matters. At least make it entertaining if you can't fight.

Swish

[Tunabros]

It's funny watching petitionquest happen month after month, then funnier in RNF because people point fingers for others petitioning, then petition themselves. It seems you can't pvp your way out of any problem and have to go to elf court.

P99 elf court should be a live 24/7 stream where GMs talk to players in the discord chat and solve matters. At least make it entertaining if you can't fight.

Swish

that will be like watching the jerry springer show but on drugs

[pink grapefruit]

I suppose I don't know which sort of merges would be best for everyone.

All I know for certain is that we need more pvp on the p99 servers. Please make this happen devs.

[Swish]

that will be like watching the jerry springer show but on drugs

I'd subscribe.

[cd288]

They said that it will merge but they’re not sure exactly when. Obviously they have to reach final Velious patch and I would assume they would then keep things going for a few months after that. So maybe sometime in the first few months of 2023? You’ve got quite awhile so I would level another char if that’s what you’re debating.

Also, who cares if it merges to blue. The fun is in playing. A merge shouldn’t stop you from making another char and enjoying Norrath.

[RevSaber]

quitting the forums forever

you guys are so fucking cringe

What happened?

[Tethler]

bluebie pls.

the only reason many of us are here is bc we're waiting for the next pvp iteration of p99. and with the state of blue server atm being what it is, merging it to red seems like a pretty good idea. it would prevent those "million plat sales" mentioned in the other post, too.

be kind imo.

"many"

[tadkins]

Red is the superior server, not failed, it's there waiting for more people to play again. People should go there if they don't want to waste so much time and want more excitement, and more opportunity to actually do the content, instead of sitting around at piled-on camps with non-classic rules.

I honestly considered red at one point, but I was straight up told I wouldn't be able to see any raids there. They're still something I would like to do one day.

I am looking for other options at the moment though. Getting a new computer in a couple of days, so TLP could be something to try, or I could make a fresh start on Red. I just know that Green has become incredibly isolating and depressing. The atmosphere just feels so harsh, prices are ridiculous, everything is dominated and hoarded by select guilds and no one seems to care about one another here.

[Scalem]

I honestly considered red at one point, but I was straight up told I wouldn't be able to see any raids there. They're still something I would like to do one day.

I am looking for other options at the moment though. Getting a new computer in a couple of days, so TLP could be something to try, or I could make a fresh start on Red. I just know that Green has become incredibly isolating and depressing. The atmosphere just feels so harsh, prices are ridiculous, everything is dominated and hoarded by select guilds and no one seems to care about one another here.

If you think things aren’t like that on red then lol.

[Samoht]

Red is the superior server, not failed, it's there waiting for more people to play again. People should go there if they don't want to waste so much time and want more excitement, and more opportunity to actually do the content, instead of sitting around at piled-on camps with non-classic rules. Red deserves a better ruleset, but it's still better than playing the braindead PvE servers.

Ideally they merge the current Red into Blue, and start the server over with a better ruleset and not going past Kunark (unless they gonna totally rebalance Velious too, which is definitely not happening).

Two things about red:

1) No matter how many players help you start, there are still players who's only goal is to grief you off the server. You will eventually hit a wall with your character and quit due to lack of viable XP.

2) No matter how much they tell you that dragons are up, dragons are going to stay up because they cannot kill shit. They don't have the numbers or the strats to kill anything in ToV, and Vulak hasn't died in a very long time last I checked.

[Zuranthium]

I honestly considered red at one point, but I was straight up told I wouldn't be able to see any raids there. They're still something I would like to do one day.

I am looking for other options at the moment though. Getting a new computer in a couple of days, so TLP could be something to try, or I could make a fresh start on Red. I just know that Green has become incredibly isolating and depressing. The atmosphere just feels so harsh, prices are ridiculous, everything is dominated and hoarded by select guilds and no one seems to care about one another here.

There are raids on Red, in fact you can raid more there than on any other server. The global /ooc chat provides something to do while you're leveling up or camping an item too, as opposed to the other servers where if you're all alone, then you're just stuck in a single player game (and literally doing nothing but sitting there, when camping an item).

[cd288]

There are raids on Red, in fact you can raid more there than on any other server. The global /ooc chat provides something to do while you're leveling up or camping an item too, as opposed to the other servers where if you're all alone, then you're just stuck in a single player game (and literally doing nothing but sitting there, when camping an item).

Lol at saying anything on red is better than the other servers. What raids have you done recently besides really easy ones?

[pink grapefruit]

I don't understand why bluebie guilds don't make the jump over to red. Fast leveling, and then once everyone is leveled up it'd just be like one big loot piñata with all the raid mobs being up always.

[Fammaden]

Yeah those same ten unemployed drug addicts in global /ooc every day is so much better than camping solo by yourself on blue or green while your lively and populated guild chat goes on.

[Zuranthium]

Two things about red:

1) No matter how many players help you start, there are still players who's only goal is to grief you off the server. You will eventually hit a wall with your character and quit due to lack of viable XP.

2) No matter how much they tell you that dragons are up, dragons are going to stay up because they cannot kill shit. They don't have the numbers or the strats to kill anything in ToV, and Vulak hasn't died in a very long time last I checked.

1.) Not true whatsoever. There is no "lack of viable XP" on red and people aren't trying to grief others off the server. You can level faster on Red than any other server.

2.) North ToV does not equate to the entirety of raiding in EQ. ToV in general is really fucking boring, but obviously if more people joined Red, then the ToV stuff would be getting killed again.

Lol at saying anything on red is better than the other servers. What raids have you done recently besides really easy ones?

I don't play EQ at all. But if I did play again, it would be on Red.

[Samoht]

1.) Not true whatsoever. There is no "lack of viable XP" on red and people aren't trying to grief others off the server. You can level faster on Red than any other server.

But is is true; I've been there.

They track you non-stop. You cannot hide behind anon or roleplay because there's a bug that briefly shows your location while you log in or zone, and these people are unrelenting. They tie /who all macros to their movement keys and use gina triggers and bots to catch you out, and when they do, the only choice is to log out.

There's nothing like trying to find an XP spot only to have a 60 druid show up and teleport on top of you and start dotting you.

Or a delevelled rog shows up with a literal raid behind him to keep him buffed and healed and runed so that you cannot even touch him, and his raid is out of level range, so you can't touch them, either.

The griefers are real.

2.) North ToV does not equate to the entirety of raiding in EQ. ToV in general is really fucking boring, but obviously if more people joined Red, then the ToV stuff would be getting killed again.

Boring or not is not the metric involved. Successfully killing raid targets is the metric called out, and red has a sever lacking in this.

I don't play EQ at all. But if I did play again, it would be on Red.

Oh, that explains why you have no idea what's going on.

[Polixa]

I tried Red, and it is true you can solo level there very quickly. If you are lucky enough to meet players like Andain you might get powerlevelled and showered with newbie gear as well.

But eventually you get into your 50s and realise the only way to play is to keep pressing /who to stay on alert from being ganked by some rando, and it becomes too annoying so you just quit back to blue where you can actually play the game.

[Fammaden]

Yeah, that's the way of EQ PvP and always has been. No matter what picture these red trolls try to paint (settling disputes outside the UN, more xp, more raid mobs, more dynamic or fun or interesting gameplay) the main thing they all actually like is griefing. Its the primary draw to EQ PvP and it always drives players away. Here on P99 you don't have enough constant playerbase influx like during the height of the live game, so the griefers eventually cull the server's ability to repopulate, resulting in a dead server.

The truly sad thing is that some of these serious red players actually fail to grasp that the real griefing in EQ is in PvP raiding. You can make a guy log off, quit the toon, or even quit the red server. But to really get into full time long term player griefing the Vanquishes and Seal Teams of the world have it mastered.

Take away all the raid loot from the rest of the players week in and week out and you are really winning at EQ players versus players in the most significant way possible. And instead of logging out or quitting the victims keep coming back for more every mob window, every cycle, every week. The pixel lust conditioning remains strong far longer than any link to your PvP server toon can ever keep you logging in for more time getting wreked by gank squads.

But of course this requires a guild effort. Which means organization, infrastructure, leadership, interpersonal communication, intraguild diplomacy (or at least the superficial appearance of it, see the UN), recruiting outreach, public relations, spin, self promotion, etc, etc, etc. And the die hard red squad is far too defective in any of those skillsets and too shortsighted and impatient to develop them. So instead they laud the concepts of direct combat, in maybe the worst example of it for any game in the history of the genre, and act surprised no one wants to join in.

TLDR: Blue servers are the real PvP in EQ and red players are too socially inept to grasp or master that.

[Tunabros]

I don't understand why bluebie guilds don't make the jump over to red. Fast leveling, and then once everyone is leveled up it'd just be like one big loot piñata with all the raid mobs being up always.

because of people like you

*cringes*

[pink grapefruit]

because of people like you

*cringes*

?

[cd288]

Fam is right about the griefing on Red. There’s a reason why it hasn’t survived while the other server has…it’s because the players drove everyone away by griefing them otherwise Red would still have a healthy population.

[Scalem]

If red was so great it wouldn't need the same 7 people constantly spamming and crying over no Red 2.0, sorry no one wants to play on a dead server with 17 people who will grief them any chance they can get.

[unsunghero]

Not exclusive to EQ though. Many classic WoW pvp servers were ruined when the dominant faction, even with just a 60-40 split began to farm/corpse camp the other faction to the point where it became 90-10 or even 99-1 ratios

Most people are wimps and want to play with the winners. They also don’t want the challenge of being the underdogs. Human nature at its finest

[Samoht]

They also don’t want the challenge of being the underdogs.

There's underdog status, and then there's facing off against a delevelled rogue with a 60 druid, 60 chanter, and more following him around to make sure he's guaranteed to win. Underdog implies you have a chance, no matter small... There is no chance for victory against conditions like these on red.

[unsunghero]

There's underdog status, and then there's facing off against a delevelled rogue with a 60 druid, 60 chanter, and more following him around to make sure he's guaranteed to win. Underdog implies you have a chance, no matter small... There is no chance for victory against conditions like these on red.

I’m sure not every encounter was that setup, but I was mostly referring to being the underdogs such as being the 30% side of a 30/70 server split in WoW. So what happens is players don’t like being in 1v2, 1v3 or 1v4 pvp encounters, and so they switch sides or switch servers to one where they are the majority, and the ratio just snowballs

When in reality, being in a constant underdog scenario tends to make people more skilled at pvp. It takes quite a lot of skill to pull off a 1v2+, while it takes (and develops) absolutely none to gank someone with 3 other people

[tadkins]

When in reality, being in a constant underdog scenario tends to make people more skilled at pvp. It takes quite a lot of skill to pull off a 1v2+, while it takes (and develops) absolutely none to gank someone with 3 other people

Back during Live I played on Sullon Zek for the final couple of years I spent in the game there. I think the team ratio on that server ended up being something like 80% Evil, 15% Neutral and 5% Good. Could be wrong on the actual numbers but I believe that's what it was like. Evil had most of the world, Neutral had a few choice spots like Highkeep, and Good had maybe like two cities to themselves they were semi-safe in.

As a result, you had the Good side as the most infamous and disruptive on the server. When they came out, they messed folks up. Many here know about Fansy the Famous Bard I'm sure.

It's just a shame that underdogs don't get much credit for accepting that extra bit of challenge, and the same goes for WoW too. Alliance would get griefed and trash talked to hell despite being no-skilled by the Horde on a server with a 90-10 advantage. I respect the Alliance a hell of a lot more in that situation. But that's partly why I've quit PvP entirely, it just feels pointless when the pendulum swings in one direction that heavily, and it inevitably always does.

[Jeni]

Getting ganked a few times and having to learn PvP and get better or 40 hour list camps its a real tough choice. Luckily for me I'm unemployed and on welfare so 40+ hour camps for big ticket items isn't really a problem. I also really hate working for stuff and if I can just sit somewhere and get the best items why the hell wouldn't I?

[tadkins]

Getting ganked a few times and having to learn PvP

Honest question though, how much "learning" can one do as a caster facing some SK in hyper twink gear with 255 MR or something?

[Jeni]

You make a solid point red probably needs a fresh server and your made up scenario pretty much never happens. The only people currently playing red are blue players who couldn't handle the Raid scene and like one Red PvPer named Tune I'm pretty sure.

[unsunghero]

Honest question though, how much "learning" can one do as a caster facing some SK in hyper twink gear with 255 MR or something?

Ya, this is why I hyper-focused on WoW pvp and gave up on EQ pvp

To me, EQ pvp seemed horribly unbalanced. Maybe things changed over time, but in EQ when I was playing if you farmed enough resist gear you could become immune to certain classes

Also, some classes like bards were almost literally un-killable (could run away from everything) unless they went linkdead

I’m sure there was much more broken stuff too. One last thing I remember was zone out then alt-f4 to not zone to other side as a free escape from pvp

[Tunabros]

/sigh

another thread ruined by the drug users of the red server

can't have single normal thread without it being ruined by red players or "cringeposters"

aka starkind/imperiouskitten/gwailer?/mblake/nirgon/recondoejoe

[pink grapefruit]

No matter how many players help you start, there are still players who's only goal is to grief you off the server. You will eventually hit a wall with your character and quit due to lack of viable XP.

I've been there.

They track you non-stop. You cannot hide behind anon or roleplay because there's a bug that briefly shows your location while you log in or zone, and these people are unrelenting. They tie /who all macros to their movement keys and use gina triggers and bots to catch you out, and when they do, the only choice is to log out.

There's nothing like trying to find an XP spot only to have a 60 druid show up and teleport on top of you and start dotting you.

Or a delevelled rog shows up with a literal raid behind him to keep him buffed and healed and runed so that you cannot even touch him, and his raid is out of level range, so you can't touch them, either.

The griefers are real.

But eventually you get into your 50s and realise the only way to play is to keep pressing /who to stay on alert from being ganked by some rando, and it becomes too annoying so you just quit back to blue where you can actually play the game.

Yeah, that's the way of EQ PvP and always has been. No matter what picture these red trolls try to paint (settling disputes outside the UN, more xp, more raid mobs, more dynamic or fun or interesting gameplay) the main thing they all actually like is griefing. Its the primary draw to EQ PvP and it always drives players away. Here on P99 you don't have enough constant playerbase influx like during the height of the live game, so the griefers eventually cull the server's ability to repopulate, resulting in a dead server.

There's underdog status, and then there's facing off against a delevelled rogue with a 60 druid, 60 chanter, and more following him around to make sure he's guaranteed to win. Underdog implies you have a chance, no matter small... There is no chance for victory against conditions like these on red.

It's okay if we have different playstyles and you don't enjoy the pvp in EQ. But, like... are you listening to yourselves? Most EverQuest players I know like to pride themselves on the difficulty of the game (compared to more modern MMOs). The xp loss from pve death, harsh corpse runs, relative power of NPCs compared to players. Reading over these posts though you all sound so beaten down and defeated.

EverQuest isn't really all that hard in reality, but you make the pvp experience out to be practically impossible and not even worth attempting. I leveled my druid in Kunark era up to mid 50s with anon off the entire time, as a super casual player with shit gear. Sometimes I died and sometimes I managed to get kills. That's life, lol. If you die you lns and head to a different zone to continue your little EQ life. Always things to do :)

Give yourselves some credit. You could make it np on red if you wanted to. And it's okay that you don't want to.

[Samoht]

EverQuest isn't really all that hard in reality, but you make the pvp experience out to be practically impossible and not even worth attempting.

That's because it IS impossible to kill a delevelled rogue twink being chain runed by a 60 enchanter and chain healed by a 60 druid...

[pink grapefruit]

That's because it IS impossible to kill a delevelled rogue twink being chain runed by a 60 enchanter and chain healed by a 60 druid...

It's impossible to kill sand giants as an untwinked level 10 nobody, too. The devs still designed them to wander around newbie zones.

I don't see you giving up over that. You're not as weak as you make yourself out to be.

[Tunabros]

no one cares, "pink grape"

[Zuranthium]

They track you non-stop. You cannot hide behind anon or roleplay because there's a bug that briefly shows your location while you log in or zone, and these people are unrelenting.

There's nothing like trying to find an XP spot only to have a 60 druid show up and teleport on top of you and start dotting you.

Or a delevelled rog shows up with a literal raid behind him to keep him buffed and healed and runed so that you cannot even touch him, and his raid is out of level range, so you can't touch them, either.

This is not an accurate representation of Red and that bug you speak of doesn't happen much. I leveled 3 characters there, across different eras. Never had this kind of issue, especially that ridiculous thing about a de-leveled rogue with a raid behind him. A raid might be passing through a certain area together, but they weren't actively going to random zones with everyone and sitting around on a low level character to kill a random lowbie. The level 60 druid thing, you would have to be at least level 56 for them to hit you. Which is normal PvP. You definitely wouldn't be getting tracked down constantly or anything like that, unless you were in a hated guild or did something awful that would make someone want to do that to you.

Boring or not is not the metric involved. Successfully killing raid targets is the metric called out, and red has a sever lacking in this.

Oh, that explains why you have no idea what's going on.

No the server isn't lacking in that. Raids were constantly happening even when the population dipped down. Again, north ToV is hardly the only raid to do in the game.

You're the one who doesn't seem to have any idea what's going on, when did you play the server? It hasn't been that long since I last popped in to play and there's no reason things would suddenly be completely different. The population tracker for the server shows enough are logging on for a raid and at this point in the server's lifespan there's not going to be griefers just sitting around everywhere doing nothing but going after helpless individuals, as you've tried to twist the narrative.

But eventually you get into your 50s and realise the only way to play is to keep pressing /who to stay on alert from being ganked by some rando, and it becomes too annoying so you just quit back to blue where you can actually play the game.

"Playing the game" is not supposed to be sitting in 1 spot like a fucking potato. The danger of possible PvP makes you pay attention to your surroundings more, yes. So what? That makes the game more interesting and is what the game is supposed to actually be like. Unless you're in spot that's popularly contested, then you really won't see hardly any PvP anyway. You get to level faster and have tons of camps available, it easily offsets the very occasional time you might have to actually move if you don't want to engage in PvP.

[Samoht]

This is not an accurate representation of Red and that bug you speak of doesn't happen much. I leveled 3 characters there, across different eras. Never had this kind of issue, especially that ridiculous thing about a de-leveled rogue with a raid behind him. A raid might be passing through a certain area together, but they weren't actively going to random zones with everyone and sitting around on a low level character to kill a random lowbie. The level 60 druid thing, you would have to be at least level 56 for them to hit you. Which is normal PvP. You definitely wouldn't be getting tracked down constantly or anything like that, unless you were in a hated guild or did something awful that would make someone want to do that to you.

My anecdotal experience is very different from yours. You claim that this doesn't happen or that they don't do that. This did happen. They did do that.

You obviously don't play on red99.

No the server isn't lacking in that. Raids were constantly happening even when the population dipped down. Again, north ToV is hardly the only raid to do in the game.

Phinny, fear golems, and VS may be "raids" in the broad sense of the term, but they are not the raids players are looking for. This is literally all they can kill on red any more. Actual raids that people want to attend do not happen on red. They cannot happen on red. The remaining population cannot complete any real raids due to lack of numbers or know how. Or both.

[tadkins]

"Playing the game" is not supposed to be sitting in 1 spot like a fucking potato. The danger of possible PvP makes you pay attention to your surroundings more, yes. So what? That makes the game more interesting and is what the game is supposed to actually be like. Unless you're in spot that's popularly contested, then you really won't see hardly any PvP anyway. You get to level faster and have tons of camps available, it easily offsets the very occasional time you might have to actually move if you don't want to engage in PvP.

Just feel like there's no point in trying with EQ PvP if you're not playing a certain class. I asked in the thread but never got an answer; what chance, what "learning" can you do if you're playing a typical cloth caster up against SKs or rogues that have been on the server raiding for years, geared out nicely and stacked on a ton of MR?

I started an enchanter on Red a while back, got to level 7, but I feel like many PvP situations would have just been straight up hopeless for her later on. That's even ignoring the straight up gang-beating situations that Samoht describes, which I absolutely do believe can and has happened there. The last thing I remember from my time on Red was one person getting ganked repeatedly somewhere in Kael, and I knew that because PvP deaths are announced server wide.

[Zuranthium]

Just feel like there's no point in trying with EQ PvP if you're not playing a certain class. I asked in the thread but never got an answer; what chance, what "learning" can you do if you're playing a typical cloth caster up against SKs or rogues that have been on the server raiding for years, geared out nicely and stacked on a ton of MR?

I started an enchanter on Red a while back, got to level 7, but I feel like many PvP situations would have just been straight up hopeless for her later on. The last thing I remember from my time on Red was one person getting ganked repeatedly somewhere in Kael, and I knew that because PvP deaths are announced server wide.

EQ is heavily team-oriented, so there's no reason you'll need to fight alone in those situations if you don't want to. Enchanters can definitely contribute to fights and they are still Gods of PvE, you would be highly desired for groups. If an opponent happens to not have an anti-mez potion on them, then actually you can do lots of work as an Enchanter, since their Rapture spell is one of the only real ways to actually hold a geared player in place.

Kael is a high level contested zone, so nobody was getting "ganked repeatedly" there. Whoever goes there should know the risk. You can't even be killed repeatedly in the zone if you don't want to be, you just call LnS. If you saw someone getting killed many times in a short period, then it means they were trying to fight, which is their choice.

[Zuranthium]

My anecdotal experience is very different from yours. You claim that this doesn't happen or that they don't do that. This did happen. They did do that.

You didn't answer any specifics, thus what you write sounds like bullshit. If you were some total outlier case, a completely innocent person who somehow got hounded worse than any other such player, then sorry for your luck. That DOESN'T happen normally on the server. There are global messages and chat that show the PvP kills and allow people to call out behaviors they disagree with. New players who were just casually trying to level and staying out of people's way were absolutely not being griefed to the extent you say, in the server's mature eras.

Phinny, fear golems, and VS may be "raids" in the broad sense of the term, but they are not the raids players are looking for. This is literally all they can kill on red any more. Actual raids that people want to attend do not happen on red. They cannot happen on red.

More than those targets still got raided with lower numbers and you don't speak for all players anyway about what they want to do. Some people don't want to spend that much time raiding, and would likely find the experience on Red more productive, plus still having the option to do other content that normally would have been totally blocked to them if they did get interested in it.

You're entirely wrong saying "those raids can't happen on red". Of course they can. All it takes is people deciding to play on the server. Toxic trash like what you're posting is part of the reason why more haven't. It would actually be very easy at this point for an entire guild on Green/Blue to migrate to Red, as you can get to Level 60 very quick and the content is very much open to be raided.

[tadkins]

Enchanters can definitely contribute to fights and they are still Gods of PvE

That is true. I actually rolled an enchanter on Red because I've wanted to get into the class for such a long time, but it has a steep learning curve and typically folks die a lot learning how to play them well. Red appealed to me because of the exp bonus and the lack of people, where I could learn on my own, make all the mistakes I need, and not inconvenience anyone.

I was definitely warned in advance that they're not a PvP class though, and I took that to heart. I expected to never win any fights with one. Especially as a fresh roll with no gear. Since I don't have any friends I wasn't expecting help with gankers either. I legitimately was hoping, if I ever did run into a ganker, the inevitable yellow spam would earn me some pity from the rest of the server, I suppose.

Kael is a high level contested zone, so nobody was getting "ganked repeatedly" there. Whoever goes there should know the risk. You can't even be killed repeatedly in the zone if you don't want to be, you just call LnS. If you saw someone getting killed many times in a short period, then it means they were trying to fight, which is their choice.

I wasn't there, I couldn't tell you what happened. All I remember was the spam of yellow messages. I even said in OOC "hey don't you guys think he's had enough?" and folks just laughed it off. I left shortly after, because that could have easily been me.

[Zuranthium]

I wasn't there, I couldn't tell you what happened. All I remember was the spam of yellow messages. I even said in OOC "hey don't you guys think he's had enough?" and folks just laughed it off. I left shortly after, because that could have easily been me.

Well no, it couldn't have easily been you, because you would just need to call LnS and then you would be free to go on your way. If someone is getting chain killed it means they are trying to fight. I sometimes used to die a bunch of times per hour just to slow an opposing guild down or fight for the area I wanted, because I didn't care about a meaningless kill message, it was just the best thing to do for zone control. You used to come back with full mana after drowning, so it was especially fun to suicide bomb over and over as a Wizard by binding myself underwater in OoT and then heading right back over to nuke a group or person that thought they could try and take the Seafuries all for themselves.

Or, the other reason you'd see someone being killed over and over is because they are afk at their bind point, which is irrelevant.

[tadkins]

Well no, it couldn't have easily been you, because you would just need to call LnS and then you would be free to go on your way. If someone is getting chain killed it means they are trying to fight.

Fair enough. I'll chalk it up to my anxious and depressed self always assuming the worst. Do folks get punished if someone asks for a LnS but continues to get killed?

[Zuranthium]

Fair enough. I'll chalk it up to my anxious and depressed self always assuming the worst. Do folks get punished if someone asks for a LnS but continues to get killed?

They will get suspended if you report it. LnS was taken seriously and people feel victorious anyway when they get others to call it, so there's not much reason to break the rule.

[Mesocyclone]

"EQ is heavily team-oriented" Only if you don't roll a shaman.

[Izmael]

Not sure why a "will Green and Blue merge?" topic turned into "why Red is (isn't) a pile of radioactive waste?" topic.

The reason Red is so unpopular today is obvious - it's the gear gap. It has been discussed many times over the last few years. PvP'ing in rags against Velious-geared people who have been playing for years isn't appealing to any sane person. This natural selection of new blood ultimately leads to the high concentration of braindead druggies on the server which, in turn, drives even more sane people away as they are unwilling to interact with toxic fucks on a daily basis, especially considering you need to be part of a raiding guild to get high-end Velious geared.

The solution is: don't have Velious.

Red needs a wipe at this point and restart with no Velious release ever. Red was awesome in Kunark.


Now we can go back to discussing Blue/Green.

[Comoc1]

When Seal Team wakes the sleeper blue and green servers will instantly shut down, merge, and come back as the Cyan server.

Additionally, Sirken will return as head GM and dragons will become unrooted. However, FTE racing will be reinstated because this game isn’t truly fun unless you’re staring at a wall and not actually playing.

It’s basically the Matrix Reloaded.

[Samoht]

I don't play EQ at all.

Please stop posting. It's obvious you don't know what the environment is like. Your arguments are all hypothetical and not applicable to the red99 server.

[cd288]

Please stop posting. It's obvious you don't know what the environment is like. Your arguments are all hypothetical and not applicable to the red99 server.

Yeah for real. This guy started playing in 2011, admits he doesn't play anymore, yet is trying to comment on the current existing state of the server? Very odd.

[Samoht]

Do folks get punished if someone asks for a LnS but continues to get killed?

There hasn't been punishment for anything like this in a loooonnnngggg time.

[MinorBuildor]

I suppose I don't know which sort of merges would be best for everyone.

All I know for certain is that we need more pvp on the p99 servers. Please make this happen devs.

Red is Dead. That tells you everything you need to know about how the vast majority of players regard PVP. Every character you create on every server starts with a book in their inventory that will flag you for PVP. Practically everyone deletes it out of hand, and an NPC is provided in newbie areas to unflag you if you made a mistake.

We. Don't. Care.

[Seducio]

Asking Red players to have awareness as to why folks don't want to play with them is like asking a narcissist in RL why they are a narcissist.

They literally don't get it. They can't get it. That would require self reflection.

[Tunabros]

pink grapefruit wont shut the fuck up about red

bet he never even logged onto red before

he's gonna be one of those guys who ask for red, and when it finally comes.....

doesn't play it

[Zuranthium]

Please stop posting. It's obvious you don't know what the environment is like. Your arguments are all hypothetical and not applicable to the red99 server.

I know exactly what the environment is like, you're the one who doesn't, writing incorrect statements because you have some kind of chip on your shoulder. Like I said, I played red99 across many eras, and the last time wasn't that long ago.

Yeah for real. This guy started playing in 2011, admits he doesn't play anymore, yet is trying to comment on the current existing state of the server? Very odd.

The current state of the red server isn't going to be different than it was 2 years ago, aside from actually having a bit more of a population now, because of covid.

[Tunabros]

another thread with red normies rampaging across it

so hard to talk about anything on this cancer forums without someone bring up red

server on a non-red related thread

[Samoht]

I know exactly what the environment is like, you're the one who doesn't, writing incorrect statements because you have some kind of chip on your shoulder. Like I said, I played red99 across many eras, and the last time wasn't that long ago.

The current state of the red server isn't going to be different than it was 2 years ago, aside from actually having a bit more of a population now, because of covid.

Looks like I've played here a lot more recently than you, and it's safe to say: You're wrong.

I don't know why you're hanging so dearly onto your memory. Maybe you're just romanticizing and miss the server. That probably explains why you still post on the messages boards for an emulated server where you no longer play.

But you cannot dismiss the experience of other players on a server where you no longer play.

Red server is a cess pool. It always has been. But it's worse now than it's ever been.

[Zuranthium]

Looks like I've played here a lot more recently than you

When did you play on red server? You've yet to answer that; it's unlikely you played in any real way. Your forum post history from years ago says "I played red beta and got killed once and never returned to the server." You're full of shit.

Red server is a cess pool. It always has been. But it's worse now than it's ever been.

All of P99 is problematic, but the bigger cesspool is garbage Blue/Green with its unclassic rules and playerbase, where you can't do anything but sit around. Literally wasting your life. Red gives players faster leveling (with very group-centric bonuses) so you don't need to hit the same braindead NPC's a million more times, it has much more content open, and it has the ability to actually fight for content, instead of some no-lifer being able to sit at camp forever (often 2 camps, because of being able to easily get around boxing rules), and hand it off to someone else in their farming guild.

[Samoht]

When did you play on red server? You've yet to answer that; it's unlikely you played in any real way. Your forum post history from years ago says "I played red beta and got killed once and never returned to the server." You're full of shit.

Oh, wow. You are obsessive if you're searching my post history for evidence. I've posted in this thread that I played more recently than that. Which are you going to believe? Me or me? Same source. Tick tock tick tock tick tock.

[Zuranthium]

I've posted in this thread that I played more recently than that.

Why have you been playing on red server recently if you keep saying it's awful? What is your character name? Nothing you say adds up and it doesn't really matter anyway, because what you say is not the actual experience on Red for most everyone.

[Samoht]

Why have you been playing on red server recently if you keep saying it's awful? What is your character name? Nothing you say adds up and it doesn't really matter anyway, because what you say is not the actual experience on Red for most everyone.

There are more people in this thread that agree with me than with you.

Maybe because we actually play on project 1999 and you don't?

Remind me why you're posting here?

[Zuranthium]

There are more people in this thread that agree with me than with you.

No there aren't and that's not an argument of correctness anyway.

Maybe because we actually play on project 1999 and you don't?

Stop saying this idiot line. I don't need to have played in the past year to have played P99 and have much more experience than you on Red server.

You continually refuse to give any verifiable info about your time on red, and don't answer why you've allegedly played on the server recently when you say it's bad and vowed never to play on it again. Again, you're just full of shit.

The actual reality of the server since 2014 is that it's had an incredibly friendly ruleset and is the best place to do PvE, while also having PvP option. Since 2016 there has been barely any PvP either. Almost any PvE person/group/guild could start on Red server these days and get a much better experience than what happens on Green/Blue, aside from the people who already "control" the Green/Blue servers and somehow enjoy extremely tedious gameplay, and thus don't have reason to leave their monopoly.

[pink grapefruit]

Red server is treated the same as the other servers by the GMs. GM staff hasn't abandoned it lol.

If a player was preventing someone from lnsing they would be breaking the rules, and I'm sure the GMs would work to rectify the situation. I doubt this happens very often anyway.

[Samoht]

Since 2016 there has been barely any PvP

There's barely been any PVE either, amirite?! ROFL

When was the last time vulak was killed on red?

[Tewaz]

Go back to ice skating Zuranthium. No one cares about your shit.

[Zuranthium]

There's barely been any PVE either, amirite?! ROFL

When was the last time vulak was killed on red?

The same dumb fallacies, you have nothing else.

There's plenty of PvE, more per player than people can get on other servers. Who cares when the last time Vulak was killed? If people wanted to kill it they would. It was killed over and over for a long period of time. People got bored, because most were on the server either for PvP or to feel like they had "conquered" the game, by being on top after Velious hit. Those people are long gone and the server is now fully open to be colonized by PvE'rs.

[Ooloo]

EQ isn't designed for pvp, EQ pvp is a totally unbalanced hackjob. UO is for pvp, EQ is for pve. And I mean, there is still "pvp" on blue servers, you're still competing against other people, you just can't kill them outright. There's a reason nobody plays red sorry.

[Swish]

EQ isn't designed for pvp, EQ pvp is a totally unbalanced hackjob. UO is for pvp, EQ is for pve. And I mean, there is still "pvp" on blue servers, you're still competing against other people, you just can't kill them outright. There's a reason nobody plays red sorry.

Pvp on blue = elf court

[Zuranthium]

EQ isn't designed for PvP but it's still better with it these days, because it adds some necessary danger and amount of thinking that the game is supposed to have.

There is no real competition on Blue servers. Being the first to click is not any kind of meaningful achievement. PvE is supposed to be about learning the zones and encounters, interacting with the environment, figuring out how to play the game mechanics optimally. All of that has been figured out ages ago. PvE is empty of its meaning now, and just the threat of PvP (not even doing it, but just being prepared for it) is the only thing that adds something dynamic to the way the game is coded.

[Samoht]

The same dumb fallacies

You can call it whatever the fuck you want, but the assessment is going to remain consistent because it's accurate.

And you don't know any better because you have no recent experience on the subject.

You don't even play here.

[Zuranthium]

And you don't know any better because you have no recent experience on the subject.

No, that's you, don't get it twisted. I did play recently enough on the server, and across many eras, whereas you have no real verifiable Red server experience, and keep saying incorrect things about the server either way.

The fact is, there are many current Green/Blue players who would have a better time on Red if they really tried. Red for years has been basically a PvE server with less overcrowding and bit more excitement. Only very occasional PvP.

[Samoht]

No, that's you, don't get it twisted. I did play recently enough on the server, and across many eras, whereas you have no real verifiable Red server experience, and keep saying incorrect things about the server either way.

The fact is, there are many current Green/Blue players who would have a better time on Red if they really tried. Red for years has been basically a PvE server with less overcrowding and bit more excitement. Only very occasional PvP.

You can keep repeating this nonsense, and that doesn't make any of it true. Here are some facts you are forgetting:

1) You cannot dismiss my experience on red.
2) You admit you don't even play here, so you don't have any experience since you left. But I do.
3) You claim there is very little PVP on red, but there is also very little PVE.

It's a dead server. You yourself have even moved on. Please remind me why you're still posting here?

[pink grapefruit]

Red is pretty dead. It's time for a fresh server.

[Tunabros]

Red is pretty dead. It's time for a fresh server.

wouldn't be dead if u played on it

hope this helps

[pink grapefruit]

awww i am the life of any party!

[Gustoo]

When green was originally made, staff stated very clearly that it would merge with blue after the timeline is complete which would be some time after the final velious patch at which point custom UI and all other stuff would match Blue rules.

Since then, staff has stepped back from the original certainty and said more or less "We'll see"

I can't think of a single rational argument for keeping the servers separate when they are on the exact same timeline except for people that want to poopsock pharm on both servers at the same time and double their productivity without breaking any boxxing rules.

Same goes with red. No reason to do anything with existing red, it can be the archive of completed PVP servers just like blue can be the archive of completed non PVP servers.

I'm looking forward to red 2.0 like everyone else is. So many small fixes that the incredibly competent p99 team can implement to make it the most enjoyable EQ experience since 1999.

I'll find time to play.

[Fammaden]

When green was originally made, staff stated very clearly that it would merge with blue after the timeline is complete which would be some time after the final velious patch at which point custom UI and all other stuff would match Blue rules.

Since then, staff has stepped back from the original certainty and said more or less "We'll see"

So many people lean on that second part as their crutch, but the possibility exists that they only said it to shut up the whiners for the time being. Certain factions were crying and complaining about the future merge incessantly here on the forums before green even fucking launched.

Merger is the most sensible, manageable and likely scenario.

[Rader]

So many people lean on that second part as their crutch, but the possibility exists that they only said it to shut up the whiners for the time being. Certain factions were crying and complaining about the future merge incessantly here on the forums before green even fucking launched.

Merger is the most sensible, manageable and likely scenario.

Negative. They also mentioned adding classic inspired custom content to Blue at some point. If they did that there would be a good reason to have Green be a separate graveyard for the newly completed classic only servers.

[unsunghero]

Negative. They also mentioned adding classic inspired custom content to Blue at some point. If they did that there would be a good reason to have Green be a separate graveyard for the newly completed classic only servers.

Uh oh, as someone who’s only char is on green the idea of it turning into a graveyard is certainly not appealing….

[Convict]

So many people lean on that second part as their crutch, but the possibility exists that they only said it to shut up the whiners for the time being. Certain factions were crying and complaining about the future merge incessantly here on the forums before green even fucking launched.

Merger is the most sensible, manageable and likely scenario.
agreed

Negative. They also mentioned adding classic inspired custom content to Blue at some point. If they did that there would be a good reason to have Green be a separate graveyard for the newly completed classic only servers.
negative

[Zuranthium]

1) You cannot dismiss my experience on red.
2) You admit you don't even play here, so you don't have any experience since you left. But I do.
3) You claim there is very little PVP on red, but there is also very little PVE.

1.) I can, seeing as how you continually fail to verify any such experience, even something as simple as giving your character name. What you are saying can only be seen as lies and exaggerations.

2.) Again, what exactly is your experience on Red server in the past year? And why have you been playing on that server while constantly saying it sucks and is dead and that you wouldn't ever play there again after alleged past experiences?

3.) There is a lot of PVE, you're fucking clueless and gaslighting.

[pink grapefruit]

Wasn’t he part of that TMO group that tried red out?

[Samoht]

Wasn’t he part of that TMO group that tried red out?

It doesn't matter. There's been a lot of whole guild migrations over the years. None of them have stuck.

But apparently my memories can be cancelled by somebody else and then they accuse ME of gaslighting.

What a strange world we live in.

[Seducio]

Asking Red players to have awareness as to why folks don't want to play with them is like asking a narcissist in RL why they are a narcissist.

They literally don't get it. They can't get it. That would require self reflection.

[bradsamma]

Man, if blue and green merge Riot and Vanquish will demolish any and all competition that green might have. Heck, kittens would give them a run for their money.

I'd be pretty stoked to see warder loot back on the table though!

[Videri]

Man, if blue and green merge Riot and Vanquish will demolish any and all competition that green might have. Heck, kittens would give them a run for their money.

I'd be pretty stoked to see warder loot back on the table though!

Remember, Green would be merging into Blue, where there is no more Warder loot. They would copy the characters from Green to Blue. They won't be copying NPCs or something and moving them from Green to Blue. I doubt that's even possible. So yeah.

I would love to see what happens with regard to the neckbeardiest guilds of both servers competing. Supposedly there's some overlap among the membership, too.

[Tunabros]

Man, if blue and green merge Riot and Vanquish will demolish any and all competition that green might have. Heck, kittens would give them a run for their money.

I'd be pretty stoked to see warder loot back on the table though!

true, <Vanquish> would destroy <Seal Team>

[cd288]

1.) I can, seeing as how you continually fail to verify any such experience, even something as simple as giving your character name. What you are saying can only be seen as lies and exaggerations.

2.) Again, what exactly is your experience on Red server in the past year? And why have you been playing on that server while constantly saying it sucks and is dead and that you wouldn't ever play there again after alleged past experiences?

3.) There is a lot of PVE, you're fucking clueless and gaslighting.

How would you know what things are like on the server currently? You literally said you don’t play anymore

[cd288]

Man, if blue and green merge Riot and Vanquish will demolish any and all competition that green might have. Heck, kittens would give them a run for their money.

I'd be pretty stoked to see warder loot back on the table though!

It’s funny that you think the hardcore raiders aren’t the same people on both servers lol

[cd288]

Negative. They also mentioned adding classic inspired custom content to Blue at some point. If they did that there would be a good reason to have Green be a separate graveyard for the newly completed classic only servers.

Are you going to pay to keep a duplicate server open?

[fortior]

Are you going to pay to keep a duplicate server open?

how much have you donated over the last year lol. shut the fuck up. make it a poll for the people who have paid imo

[cd288]

how much have you donated over the last year lol. shut the fuck up. make it a poll for the people who have paid imo

Not sure what that has to do with anything? You want them to keep a duplicative server open. That’s expensive. So I’m asking if you’re going to pay for it.

[wuanahto]

Not sure what that has to do with anything? You want them to keep a duplicative server open. That’s expensive. So I’m asking if you’re going to pay for it.

rog and nil are millionaires apparently. im not sure what your argument has to do with anything.
dont believe me? from what i understand they spent 11+ years of their lives on p99 and an unknown amount of money. thats not something a common everyday person can do.

and judging from the red forum/server status, it barely goes over 100 people these days and its still kept around. with that known i cant see why four or five servers cant be a thing.

Or maybe they learned that low pop servers are the future for easy to handle petitions or maybe a somewhat peaceful server and having four, five or more servers stretching that population out to have 100-200ish people per server is their new goal

well until the big guilds have multiple alts across servers which i think is done now on blue/green and we are right back where we started

[cd288]

rog and nil are millionaires apparently. im not sure what your argument has to do with anything.
dont believe me? from what i understand they spent 11+ years of their lives on p99 and an unknown amount of money. thats not something a common everyday person can do.

and judging from the red forum/server status, it barely goes over 100 people these days and its still kept around. with that known i cant see why four or five servers cant be a thing.

Or maybe they learned that low pop servers are the future for easy to handle petitions or maybe a somewhat peaceful server and having four, five or more servers stretching that population out to have 100-200ish people per server is their new goal

well until the big guilds have multiple alts across servers which i think is done now on blue/green and we are right back where we started

Lol when people use Red in this argument. Do you know why Red exists? because it is a completely different type of server. I.e. it's PvP. They keep Red open because it's their only PvP server. Totally not analogous (sorry I'll pause in case you need to look that word up) to keeping a totally duplicative PvE server open.

You think they're going to pay to keep Green open once Green 2.0 shows up? Why? Just because a bunch of neckbeards don't want their level 60s being merged into Blue without real valid reason? Lol if you have this type of logic you must be a salesman's dream come true. You think Rogean and Nilbog don't work? They have jobs and real lives dude, that's why things sometimes update slowly around here; because these guys are unpaid volunteers who have a passion for EQ, but also have important real life responsibilities.

By the time we're ready for Green 2.0, which will probably be sometime around the end of 2022 I assume, the server will be mudflated and top heavy (it's already getting there as is). There's literally no reason to keep it as a standalone server. You merge it with Blue and start a new progression server; that way people who like their Green chars can still play them on Blue and people who want to do the progression again can on the new server.

And that's putting aside the fact that, you know, the staff has said they are going to merge lol

[wuanahto]

I like missing the point on purpose because I dont like the truthl

Oh.

[lordpazuzu]

All I know is that I'm pumped as hell for a fresh vanilla server launch cause this game is evil.

I had to drop out of playing for a long while and missed all of Kunark when it was current, so I'm pretty much waiting on a fresh server to start up again. Whenever that is.

[cd288]

Oh.

Imagine watching the staff say something and then just putting your fingers in your ears and being like “no they didn’t say it it’s not merging!”

[Tunabros]

love how this thread went from talking about merging with blue and green

to red and drug users