Earthquakes

[Imposter]

Earthquakes are healthy for the server because the dragon pie gets divided more diversely.

One earthquake for the entire history of Velious? Not good for diversity.

[Baler]

You should never expect a quake.

early days on p99 they were random with generally long periods of time between them.
then they tried the 1-3 and 0-3 quakes per month. It just made people upset at staff when there wasn't a quake.
It was never coded to randomly happen nilbog or rogean had to push the button.

In my opinion with how the community communicates it's desire for quakes, I wouldn't do them either. Meaning most people come off ungrateful demanding more.

[drackgon]

should be one every month. just 2 help with peeps RL. aka a weekend of no socking is bae

[drackgon]

Live went down all the time. So mobs were constantly up. Aka make it classic:)

[Scalem]

P99 would be infinitely better if they had random weekly quakes. Cuts down on socking, gives content to more then just the top two guilds. Literally no downsides.

[Imposter]

P99 would be infinitely better if they had random weekly quakes. Cuts down on socking, gives content to more then just the top two guilds. Literally no downsides.

this

[Fammaden]

There was server downtime basically every week during Velious back in the day. I recall frequent server maintenance on like Tuesday at 10AM pacific. Weekly quakes would be far more classic than 16 hour windows.

[Activa]

Or you could just not play on this dog shit server run by corrupt man children and absolute losers irl that enjoy socking for 12+ hours every time raid targets are in window.

[Fammaden]

Sorry about your RMT ban.

[Tunabros]

need quake asap

[loramin]

Look at the evidence: the staff hates quakes.

My guess is that to them, quakes = a bunch of whiny man-children bitching at them and fighting amongst themselves, and they just don't want to deal with it.

There may well be some other reason, but look: throughout P99's history the staff has always been anti-quake. They fought against having quakes for years, and then when they finally agreed to start having them, they were always (almost from the very start) fewer and farther between than promised.

I truly don't think the staff are assholes who like promising us things, and then lying about it and going "ha ha no quakes for you". I truly think they just didn't realize what quakes entailed, and once they did they stopped wanting to do them, and the evidence is their reticence to quake for years.

[Fammaden]

Look at the evidence: the staff hates quakes.

Please provide this evidence. Is the evidence just that low quake frequency must correlate with "staff hates quakes"?

[Tunabros]

Loramin loves speaking in jibberish expecting us to understand what he's talking about

He literally worships the wiki

the best thing to do is to put him on ignore

[loramin]

Please provide this evidence. Is the evidence just that low quake frequency must correlate with "staff hates quakes"?

Yes, but it's not just "low quake frequency", it's staff opposition over time.

Look, what's the goal of Rogean, Nilbog, and all the other volunteers here? Classic EverQuest. Now, one would imagine that people dedicated to classic EverQuest would want quakes because ... they're classic (or at least they simulate something classic, server takedowns). And yet, it was the exact opposite: the player base had to beg for years to get quakes here.

Then, almost since the very day we got them, the staff has almost exclusively done the minimal amount of quakes promised. In the old days that was 1-3 (ie. 1 a month), but then (in yet another piece of "evidence" that they hate them) they changed it to 0-2 quakes.

Now, just for a second, imagine: what would a staff that doesn't hate quakes (but does love classic EQ) look like? Simple: they'd introduce quakes on their own, and they'd actually quake 1-3 times a month.

The fact that they don't ... and haven't for years ... is the evidence.

[Fammaden]

Any quotes confirming that quakes cause them problems or is all this evidence just your assumptions and opinions?

Why are these numbers not just as easily explained by apathy or forgetfulness?

[loramin]

Why are these numbers not just as easily explained by apathy or forgetfulness?

You say potato, I say potatoe ;)

But look, Nilbog spends hundreds of hours of his life trying to get level 10 mobs in the right place in zones. Rogean runs an entire company (essentially) just to let us all play classic EQ. There is nothing "apathetic" about either one!

These are passionate people, with a clear and demonstrated passion for classic EQ. And that makes their "apathy" on quakes all the more questionable (to the point where I'd consider it reasonable to call it a "hatred" ... but I don't want to get bogged down arguing word definitions).

[loramin]

P.S. And I just want to be clear: I'm not making any value judgments here.

I'm not saying "it's bad that R&N hate quakes" or "R&N are selfish jerks" or whatever. I'm saying the evidence suggests that people massively passionate about classic EQ wouldn't consistently do something unclassic for half a decade ... after promising to do that very thing ... if they liked that thing.

[Ripqozko]

Ya'll don't deserve earthquakes, hope that helped.

[Detoxx]

Look at the evidence: the staff hates quakes.

My guess is that to them, quakes = a bunch of whiny man-children bitching at them and fighting amongst themselves, and they just don't want to deal with it.

There may well be some other reason, but look: throughout P99's history the staff has always been anti-quake. They fought against having quakes for years, and then when they finally agreed to start having them, they were always (almost from the very start) fewer and farther between than promised.

I truly don't think the staff are assholes who like promising us things, and then lying about it and going "ha ha no quakes for you". I truly think they just didn't realize what quakes entailed, and once they did they stopped wanting to do them, and the evidence is their reticence to quake for years.

There is the least amount of "man-children bitching at them and fighting amongst themselves..." during quakes. You tend to veer off into things you know nothing about and just ramble. You may want to get the facts before doing that...

[Imposter]

There is the least amount of "man-children bitching at them and fighting amongst themselves..." during quakes. You tend to veer off into things you know nothing about and just ramble. You may want to get the facts before doing that...

The dude has nearly 9,000 posts so he really cares...just not about facts.

[Ripqozko]

anytime loramin talks about raiding you know its bs, you would never even see him during anon raids.

[Tethler]

Eh was only a matter of time. TBH the only reason I was even playing the game was because of RMT lol.

Good riddance.

Also, lol @ complaining about the raid scene when you didn't raid. People in guild were asking "Who is Activa?" when you got your RMT ban.

[Activa]

Good riddance.

Also, lol @ complaining about the raid scene when you didn't raid. People in guild were asking "Who is Activa?" when you got your RMT ban.

I was in Kingdom idiot lol. Wtf are you talking about? That and the whole fucking anyone who was anyone knew who I was. I was legit the most recognized trader on the entire server.

[loramin]

There is the least amount of "man-children bitching at them and fighting amongst themselves..." during quakes. You tend to veer off into things you know nothing about and just ramble. You may want to get the facts before doing that...

As I said, I was speculating as to their motivation. All I know is that historically, their actions haven't been the kind of actions you'd expect from someone who loves quakes.

And as for my facts, which of the following is inaccurate: That the player base asked for simulated respawns (of any sort) for years before quakes were finally added? That quakes were going to have an automated release, and then didn't? That they went from 1-3 to 0-2?

And again, I'm not saying any of that is bad ... just that it suggests at best apathy or some kind of conflicted feelings towards quakes on the part of the people who control them.

[Tethler]

I was in Kingdom idiot lol. Wtf are you talking about? That and the whole fucking anyone who was anyone knew who I was. I was legit the most recognized trader on the entire server.

I am, and was, in Kingdom when you were banned dumbass. People legit were asking in gchat who you were. One of our raid leaders answered with, "isn't it that shaman that never leaves EC?"

Again, good riddance

[Man0warr]

There are no quakes because let's face reality - Rogean specifically seems to be done with Project1999 or severely taken a step back since Green launched. Nilbog still seems to be working behind the scenes intermittently but Rogean is the one who quakes and pushes patches with file changes and the frequency of both since mid Velious on Blue has been pretty low.

To be clear - nothing wrong with that. It's all volunteer work and it's been a long haul.

[Robot]

I was in Kingdom idiot lol. Wtf are you talking about? That and the whole fucking anyone who was anyone knew who I was. I was legit the most recognized trader on the entire server.

https://i.imgur.com/twSFOWD.jpg?1

[Tunabros]

I was in Kingdom idiot lol. Wtf are you talking about? That and the whole fucking anyone who was anyone knew who I was. I was legit the most recognized trader on the entire server.

lol stfu

no one cares

you RMT and that's cringe

[JDAm0nk]

you RMT and that's cringe

I'm glad that Activa was banned for RMTing, but let's be honest - is anyone surprised?

I'd be willing to bet that all the top guilds on Green have people engaged in RMT.

It only makes sense. I love Classic EQ and I'm thankful to have experienced it again via P99, but playing on Green has felt like investing in a pyramid scheme. People have to justify all the hours they have invested in the server and game.

How? Achieving max profit seems to be the rule.

The economy has felt ridiculous and artificial on Green for its entire lifespan. This isn't because "it's ClAsSiC."

[mycoolrausch]

Automate quakes. There's various ways to do it but a chance to quake every minute, with that chance going up on weekends and during prime time, and going down during off-hours, but always possible and unpredictable, with a few safeguards (quaking while growth is half cleared might suck - quaking within 24 hours of a previous quake might be excessive, etc) for good measure. Tune the numbers so the rough overall average is two quakes per any 30 day stretch. Would be cool.