for those of us that haven't been playing along...

[slard271]

Can someone give a condensed version of all this KT mayhem?

Seems like some sort of tracker chicanery where someone got caught with their pants down? Inquiring minds want to know.

I need excitement in my EQ lyfe.

[Daloon]

Cant log out at raid targets and just pull it when the server unlocks. Have to race for it from the zone-line.

Riot knew that but cheated anyways, then played stupid until video evidence and GM intervention. They think GMs are always on their side so they can get away with murder. Riot have conceded about 400% less mobs than their competition, on grounds of them thinking they are the "good guys" and thinking they have GMs in their pockets.

[Nutsax]

Cant log out at raid targets and just pull it when the server unlocks. Have to race for it from the zone-line.

Riot knew that but cheated anyways, then played stupid until video evidence and GM intervention. They think GMs are always on their side so they can get away with murder. Riot have conceded about 400% less mobs than their competition, on grounds of them thinking they are the "good guys" and thinking they have GMs in their pockets.

Gaslighting attempt 1/10...... Trainquish half wits will believe.

[anniejulien]

Can someone give a condensed version of all this KT mayhem?

Seems like some sort of tracker chicanery where someone got caught with their pants down? Inquiring minds want to know.

I need excitement in my EQ lyfe.

I love to play outdoor, indoor games and online games too, recently I played casino at https://freebonus.co/category/free-chips. It is very interesting and safe to play.

[Tunabros]

join green today

[cd288]

Short summary:

Vanquish had been using scripting to allow themselves to get a jump on FTE (triggers the character to race to the FTE when the mob spawns). Riot then used scripting on their FTE race character to show that the Vanquish member was scripting (whether Riot had been using scripting or not before this is unclear). Vanquish then flipped out (probably nervous that the staff will ban them for cheating) and is now trying to spin the Riot discord comments as an admission of Riot cheating all the time, while ignoring the fact that the Vanquish member was scripting in the first place.

Move to resolved.

[Ripqozko]

Short summary:

Vanquish had been using scripting to allow themselves to get a jump on FTE (triggers the character to race to the FTE when the mob spawns). Riot then used scripting on their FTE race character to show that the Vanquish member was scripting (whether Riot had been using scripting or not before this is unclear). Vanquish then flipped out (probably nervous that the staff will ban them for cheating) and is now trying to spin the Riot discord comments as an admission of Riot cheating all the time, while ignoring the fact that the Vanquish member was scripting in the first place.

Move to resolved.

The better irony is spending like a year screaming that furoar scripted in aftermath O chat only to make him your leader to acquire pixels. It’s a yikes for me dawg.

[tankh]

Short summary:

Vanquish had been using scripting to allow themselves to get a jump on FTE (triggers the character to race to the FTE when the mob spawns). Riot then used scripting on their FTE race character to show that the Vanquish member was scripting (whether Riot had been using scripting or not before this is unclear). Vanquish then flipped out (probably nervous that the staff will ban them for cheating) and is now trying to spin the Riot discord comments as an admission of Riot cheating all the time, while ignoring the fact that the Vanquish member was scripting in the first place.

Move to resolved.

Pretty much this.


All these posts about riot “cheating” Vanquish only guild to be banned go figure

[rezzie]

The better irony is spending like a year screaming that furoar scripted in aftermath O chat only to make him your leader to acquire pixels. It’s a yikes for me dawg.

Deso/Venice scripted a run off the line for a Statue to prove Furoar and Lennard were both scripting. Even with him using a script to auto run on pop they were still both ahead of him by the first ice ramp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvhsMPm4jg

Video inconclusive. Where’s Kickenit’s video?

[myrddraal]

Deso/Venice scripted a run off the line for a Statue to prove Furoar and Lennard were both scripting. Even with him using a script to auto run on pop they were still both ahead of him by the first ice ramp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvhsMPm4jg

Video inconclusive. Where’s Kickenit’s video?

So racing is too easy to cheat and so are coths, so the solution is root KT and Statue then?

[Ripqozko]

So racing is too easy to cheat and so are coths, so the solution is root KT and Statue then?

Rotate it or bring back C/R/FFA at the least, there is no competition anymore , just autists clinging onto pixels 6 years after the server was won.

[SantagarBrax]

Ripgozko sounds like he hasn't raided since Rampage was getting their asses stomped and being worn out in Dec 2015. It's no wonder Rampage decided to wake the sleeper, they saw the writing on the wall and their members were burnt out. They had no choice.

P.S. You don't "Win" if you Quit. lawls

[Ripqozko]

Ripgozko sounds like he hasn't raided since Rampage was getting their asses stomped and being worn out in Dec 2015. It's no wonder Rampage decided to wake the sleeper, they saw the writing on the wall and their members were burnt out. They had no choice.

P.S. You don't "Win" if you Quit. lawls

I definitely did, was in AM/rustle. Sorry you think being autistic about it 6 years later is winning. hope that helps.

[SantagarBrax]

Also @Ripgozko, you wouldn't know what competition was since the moment it started occurring to you in Rampage, you QUIT.

Keep your quitting mentality opinions out of the current raid scene, you're irrelevant.

[Ripqozko]

Also @Ripgozko, you wouldn't know what competition was since the moment it started occurring to you in Rampage, you QUIT.

Keep your quitting mentality opinions out of the current raid scene, you're irrelevant.

autismspeaks.org

[Tunabros]

ramen gatekeeping everquest pixels

lol?

[Teako]

I will say in 100% certainty that Conda created an over-lay system for his screen so that he could go to sleep while "racing", and when the pixels would change to match the target (the one he was trying to make it work for at the time was Dozekar) -- the program would automatically begin autorunning and jumping forward while blaring an alarm over his headphones. Multiple times he failed Doze races while running head first into the end of the ent hall while 100% asleep.

Jester and I sat in discord dumbfounded the guy was so dedicated to cheating. We literally banned the guy from tracking for like 3 months because he was coked out and using his program to "track" 18+ hours a day. Detoxx wouldn't let us kick him because he was "play maker" and it was getting the guild mobs.


Freedom? Renamed? Vanquish? whatever they're going by these days has been using this over-lay mandatory on all of their top-end core "racing" monks since before rooted dragons. Conda was spreading the shit around to "play makers" - It was working and functional for KT, AoW, Doze, and Vulak when I quit the game in 2017-ish.

Believe me, or don't. I don't really care. I just get linked threads and stop by every so often to expose Tony and his shady bullshit then never read his rage/spin replies.

[Trexller]

autismspeaks.org

I'm autistic, you got a problem there?

[Nexii]

Rotate it or bring back C/R/FFA at the least, there is no competition anymore , just autists clinging onto pixels 6 years after the server was won.

Monthly draft IMO, it's kinda the same thing only better

[Kaitainz]

I will say in 100% certainty that Conda created an over-lay system for his screen so that he could go to sleep while "racing", and when the pixels would change to match the target (the one he was trying to make it work for at the time was Dozekar) -- the program would automatically begin autorunning and jumping forward while blaring an alarm over his headphones. Multiple times he failed Doze races while running head first into the end of the ent hall while 100% asleep.

Jester and I sat in discord dumbfounded the guy was so dedicated to cheating. We literally banned the guy from tracking for like 3 months because he was coked out and using his program to "track" 18+ hours a day. Detoxx wouldn't let us kick him because he was "play maker" and it was getting the guild mobs.


Freedom? Renamed? Vanquish? whatever they're going by these days has been using this over-lay mandatory on all of their top-end core "racing" monks since before rooted dragons. Conda was spreading the shit around to "play makers" - It was working and functional for KT, AoW, Doze, and Vulak when I quit the game in 2017-ish.

Believe me, or don't. I don't really care. I just get linked threads and stop by every so often to expose Tony and his shady bullshit then never read his rage/spin replies.

This is my shocked face...

[Arvan]

I will say in 100% certainty that Conda created an over-lay system for his screen so that he could go to sleep while "racing", and when the pixels would change to match the target (the one he was trying to make it work for at the time was Dozekar) -- the program would automatically begin autorunning and jumping forward while blaring an alarm over his headphones. Multiple times he failed Doze races while running head first into the end of the ent hall while 100% asleep.

Jester and I sat in discord dumbfounded the guy was so dedicated to cheating. We literally banned the guy from tracking for like 3 months because he was coked out and using his program to "track" 18+ hours a day. Detoxx wouldn't let us kick him because he was "play maker" and it was getting the guild mobs.


Freedom? Renamed? Vanquish? whatever they're going by these days has been using this over-lay mandatory on all of their top-end core "racing" monks since before rooted dragons. Conda was spreading the shit around to "play makers" - It was working and functional for KT, AoW, Doze, and Vulak when I quit the game in 2017-ish.

Believe me, or don't. I don't really care. I just get linked threads and stop by every so often to expose Tony and his shady bullshit then never read his rage/spin replies.

Omg you mean vanquish is full of cheaters who constantly break rules and always lie about it when called out? I had no idea all this time…

[Toryas]

Guild leader with toons tagged in Riot, guild leader logging in Riot bots to train Riot raid force, members with screenshots of Riot's discord. People with real integrity right there.

[Pint]

Remember when IB and tmo were scripting vp ftes in kunark as an open secret.. that was like 6 or 7 years ago you idiots. Spoiler alert ppl cheat here daily and have been for 11 years now.

[Vianna]

I will say in 100% certainty that Conda created an over-lay system for his screen so that he could go to sleep while "racing", and when the pixels would change to match the target (the one he was trying to make it work for at the time was Dozekar) -- the program would automatically begin autorunning and jumping forward while blaring an alarm over his headphones. Multiple times he failed Doze races while running head first into the end of the ent hall while 100% asleep.

Jester and I sat in discord dumbfounded the guy was so dedicated to cheating. We literally banned the guy from tracking for like 3 months because he was coked out and using his program to "track" 18+ hours a day. Detoxx wouldn't let us kick him because he was "play maker" and it was getting the guild mobs.


Freedom? Renamed? Vanquish? whatever they're going by these days has been using this over-lay mandatory on all of their top-end core "racing" monks since before rooted dragons. Conda was spreading the shit around to "play makers" - It was working and functional for KT, AoW, Doze, and Vulak when I quit the game in 2017-ish.

Believe me, or don't. I don't really care. I just get linked threads and stop by every so often to expose Tony and his shady bullshit then never read his rage/spin replies.
What a load of horseshit. Of course no one believes you because it isn't true.

[Vianna]

This is my shocked face...

If you believe what he typed I got a bridge to sale ya.

[OuterChimp]

What is scripting in EQ? You make the computer auto run towards the mob or something?

Please break this down barney-style for me.

[cd288]

I will say in 100% certainty that Conda created an over-lay system for his screen so that he could go to sleep while "racing", and when the pixels would change to match the target (the one he was trying to make it work for at the time was Dozekar) -- the program would automatically begin autorunning and jumping forward while blaring an alarm over his headphones. Multiple times he failed Doze races while running head first into the end of the ent hall while 100% asleep.

Jester and I sat in discord dumbfounded the guy was so dedicated to cheating. We literally banned the guy from tracking for like 3 months because he was coked out and using his program to "track" 18+ hours a day. Detoxx wouldn't let us kick him because he was "play maker" and it was getting the guild mobs.


Freedom? Renamed? Vanquish? whatever they're going by these days has been using this over-lay mandatory on all of their top-end core "racing" monks since before rooted dragons. Conda was spreading the shit around to "play makers" - It was working and functional for KT, AoW, Doze, and Vulak when I quit the game in 2017-ish.

Believe me, or don't. I don't really care. I just get linked threads and stop by every so often to expose Tony and his shady bullshit then never read his rage/spin replies.

This is a great point. I think people sometimes forget that the current big guilds are mostly made up of the same players from all of the prior big guilds. Most, if not all, of the big super competitive guilds have cheated at some point. So for someone in one of the current big guilds to try and slander the other one for cheating, when multiple of their members have either cheated in the current guild or in a prior iteration, is so hypocritical.

[cd288]

What a load of horseshit. Of course no one believes you because it isn't true.

Vanquish literally outed themselves by accident here by showing that Riot proved Vanquish has been cheating. So no, you're wrong, everyone believes this lol

[cd288]

What is scripting in EQ? You make the computer auto run towards the mob or something?

Please break this down barney-style for me.

Basically yes. Once the mob spawns your character instantly starts running. It's used to try and give you a small edge in the race because it's automated rather than taking the extra few seconds it would take a human's eyes to process the track list and then start running.

The accidental thing Vanquish proved here was that they had been scripting as well. Which was why Riot scripted here: to show that the only way the race is neck and neck is if Vanquish's racer was also scripting.

[OuterChimp]

Basically yes. Once the mob spawns your character instantly starts running. It's used to try and give you a small edge in the race because it's automated rather than taking the extra few seconds it would take a human's eyes to process the track list and then start running.

The accidental thing Vanquish proved here was that they had been scripting as well. Which was why Riot scripted here: to show that the only way the race is neck and neck is if Vanquish's racer was also scripting.

You know, this doesn't surprise me at all. We all played eq back in teh day, grew up...some of you became computer programmers and now here we are.

I give you props for being that "dedicated" to the game.

I still die to green mobs...it is the way.

[cd288]

You know, this doesn't surprise me at all. We all played eq back in teh day, grew up...some of you became computer programmers and now here we are.

I give you props for being that "dedicated" to the game.

I still die to green mobs...it is the way.

Yeah doesn't surprise me at all either. To be honest, seems like they could just make scripting legal then everyone would do it thereby negating any advantage the cheaters have.

To further elaborate on the answer to your initial question, here is a good comment from Reddit that explains it and breaks it down pretty well.

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In the video you linked, here is the key moment:

https://youtu.be/g1Kq18sNPNk?t=8:08 into the video is when the race starts

If you slow playback to .25, you can see both racer ogres (Bloodeye and Stunningly) start at nearly identical times, at superhuman reaction speeds to the random dice roll (which im assuming is the trigger as to begin the race, based on the scripts you posted in the google doc) and both characters react before any other racer in the video.

Bloodeye then gets into a slight lead as it appears Stunningly clips into the wall and it puts his character behind Bloodeye (you be the judge) and it is at this point OP decided to take a screenshot of Bloodeye with the lead and claims he is cheating and has an unfair advantage.

All that can be reasonably deduced from this point is that Bloodeye (from riot) and Stunningly (from vanquish) are both cheating as they are clearly in front of the rest of the racers and both reacted at superhuman reaction speeds to the start of the race.

Then, Bloodeye (Kickenit I guess?) decides to come forward and report to the GMs that he was purposely cheating in order to prove that another racer was cheating, in this case Stunningly.

Why would Bloodeye/Kickenit come forward and admit what he was doing unless he had nothing to hide? Sure seems to me like vanquish got caught with their pants down and is now trying to take Bloodeye/Kickenit down with them.

[SantagarBrax]

Omg you mean vanquish is full of cheaters who constantly break rules and always lie about it when called out? I had no idea all this time…

I don't cheat, never have and never will.

[Bardp1999]

I don't cheat, never have and never will.

Eat'n aint cheat'n

[Tunabros]

how the hell do you even script on p99 lol?

[k9quaint]

I will say in 100% certainty that Conda created an over-lay system for his screen so that he could go to sleep while "racing", and when the pixels would change to match the target (the one he was trying to make it work for at the time was Dozekar) -- the program would automatically begin autorunning and jumping forward while blaring an alarm over his headphones. Multiple times he failed Doze races while running head first into the end of the ent hall while 100% asleep.

Jester and I sat in discord dumbfounded the guy was so dedicated to cheating. We literally banned the guy from tracking for like 3 months because he was coked out and using his program to "track" 18+ hours a day. Detoxx wouldn't let us kick him because he was "play maker" and it was getting the guild mobs.


Freedom? Renamed? Vanquish? whatever they're going by these days has been using this over-lay mandatory on all of their top-end core "racing" monks since before rooted dragons. Conda was spreading the shit around to "play makers" - It was working and functional for KT, AoW, Doze, and Vulak when I quit the game in 2017-ish.

Believe me, or don't. I don't really care. I just get linked threads and stop by every so often to expose Tony and his shady bullshit then never read his rage/spin replies.

Release the scripts as open source. Give Rog/Bog a chance to code up a response.
And yeah, P99 has had cheating of one sort or another for the last 11 years.

[Argh]

Simple automation is easy with something like robotjs (https://github.com/octalmage/robotjs)