How well can Ranger solo if twinked well?

[VincentVolaju]

Was wondering if you twinked a Ranger w/ really nice stuff, would they be able to solo level / high DPS on par as other melee classes?

[Doors]

You'll need a shit ton of arrows and a tolan's bracer after 45 (or 46?). Root -> shoot method plus dots once you get them. Just takes awhile to kill mobs.

Their DPS will probably never match that of a monk or rogue even if well geared. Then again this isn't world of warcraft, so who gives a fuck about a DPS parse. Play what you like.

[hdawg06]

Not well enough after 30. Even with a fungi and/or pre-nerf fungi staff it would take some time to kill mobs.

[Troy]

Was wondering if you twinked a Ranger w/ really nice stuff, would they be able to solo level / high DPS on par as other melee classes?

I solo'ed at least half of the time on the way to 49 on my ranger and that was without Kunark gear until level 40.

With good gear, melee -> heal -> med is more efficient than root - shoot or snare - shoot until lvl ~45.

With really good gear it's probably that way to 51 but I wouldn't know.

Beyond that stuff just hits too hard to solo much in melee range. Maybe if you have fungi tunic + fungi staff + CoF + Tash sticks and Swarmcaller w/ 255 dex + ridiculous other weapons/gear you could solo to 60. But you'd still ding 60 later than a Monk with like 3k in gear most likely...

[Slave]

Rangers don't have Fear Animal line in Kunark yet? If they do, you can easily level to 58 solo.

[YendorLootmonkey]

The closest you'll get to soloing efficiently at a high level is probably between level 40-45, soloing lancer swordfish in Kedge Keep for fairly good XP. But they nerfed the ZEM there, so I don't know how it is anymore. Well-twinked, you could probably hold your own in Sol B and L Guk against non-casters.

After that, your best bet is to stay outdoors in order to have plenty of room to kite/snare/root/dot/flee... so you'll have to go to Kunark. And shit there just hits way too hard for straight up melee, so you'll have to resort to arrow kiting or root/rot. If you choose the former, as said above, you absolutely need a Tolan's Bracer to make this effective. If you choose the latter, do yourself a favor now and work on your Conjuration skill with Dance of Fireflies every chance you get, so you aren't fizzle x 20 when you finally get Drones of Doom.

Once epics come out, things will be a bit better in the solo department with 40% item haste and 50% slow proc. If you're able, get a Dark Cloak of the Sky once the Sky upgrades happen for 50% spell haste. I would imagine that'll help your solo prospects quite a bit.

Otherwise, you're honestly better off finding a class that can cast Fear, and duoing for near zero downtime... it'll be worth the XP split over a long time horizon.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Rangers don't have Fear Animal line in Kunark yet? If they do, you can easily level to 58 solo.

Panic Animal is added to the ranger spell line-up in Velious.

[Slave]

Panic Animal is added to the ranger spell line-up in Velious.

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! argh.

[Hithrohir]

Depends on the level of twinking. With everything money can buy, including fungi and CoF and the best marketable weapons etc., you can solo to 50 without any particular trouble, and would be able to push it to mid-50s or possibly even 60 if you're stubborn. It'd be easy until 40ish, completely doable until 50, and challenging and a bit slow after 50. This is with just straight up killing mobs; you can pretty much forget about archery for leveling, because it just isn't fast enough to kill at a respectable rate. You'll level much faster just tanking blue mobs down and resting in-between.

If you can't afford the truly best but can suit up in things like FBSS, Lammies, standard twink gear and maybe an Ikky BP, you'll be able to solo to 30 with relative ease and to 40 if you're determined. After 40, you'd still be able to kill mobs but it would become really inefficient leveling, like with any melee class short of a fear-kiting shadowknight. You'll still be generally capable of soloing a blue mob, but your health and mana sustainability would just kill your xp/hour.

You can kite shit with a bow and dots. As with a lot of classes, rangers are able to kill stuff like that, but it's so slow and dreary that it's pretty much not worth doing. Like trying to level a cleric by root-nuking. Possible, but you're just better off looking for a group or not playing. We're talking many minutes per kill, and then time spent medding up afterwards, clicking your Tolan's bracer endlessly, and so on. Don't bother.

[Innovative]

Rangers were awesome in PoP.. I'm definitely playing one if that happens, but I think at the moment they're not really up to par with other dps classes.

[Diplomacy]

Rangers were awesome in PoP.. I'm definitely playing one if that happens, but I think at the moment they're not really up to par with other dps classes.

It won't.

[Duie]

"you can pretty much forget about archery for leveling, because it just isn't fast enough to kill at a respectable rate. You'll level much faster just tanking blue mobs down and resting in-between."


Let me intuduce you to my little Friend

13/22 uzi /Tolans arms/ Toalns Gloves/tolans Bracer
Down time? we dont need no stinkin down time.

[Hithrohir]

It's not about downtime, it's about how long it takes you to kill a mob. And by the time you have those items, you've already done a big portion of your leveling.

[Duie]

OH i disagree. If your killing things in 1 min and then have to sit for 5+ , is that really any more effective as killing things in 5 min and maybe 2 min downtime an hour to resummon arrows? Granted unless your a mage, it is always gonna be more effective to group but to say a ranger can not solo efectivly via bow kiting is somewhat flawed.

Ive had that bow sence i was lvl 43. it only takes invis and luck to get it on this server as we have so few rangers post 50 onthe server .
If your going to solo as a ranger, you gotta be selective and smart in what your killing, IE low HP/ Hi Zem areas, dont melee stuff thats gonna make you heal too much, and use every tool that the game gives you.

lower lvls. get the root swords. melee till it procs and back out. dot/ bow repete. just because you can tank doesnt mean you should .

[YendorLootmonkey]

In the time it takes for me to get a blue while soloing with bowkiting (hours), I could have gotten 2-3 blues in a good Chardok or Seb group of similarly-leveled players. And at the rate you get XP post 50, you'll want to slit your wrists. I won't even talk about hell level 54, let alone 59.

Can you solo with archery? Yes.

Will you have the patience to solo with archery? Debatable. :P

[jrwriter]

I soloed to 50 easy in full banded and quick but I played rng 4 ever 15 playd days to fifty

[jrwriter]

But with root snare broke I wouldn't advise. It

[YendorLootmonkey]

I soloed to 50 easy in full banded and quick but I played rng 4 ever 15 playd days to fifty

How many hours a day did you play?

[JenJen]

as the ex best ranger on the server i laugh at this discussion

[JenJen]

yes im trollin'!

p.s hi yendie

[YendorLootmonkey]

as the ex best ranger on the server i laugh at this discussion

There is some fact in this... Jen died the least of all actively raiding rangers on the server.







Because she was AFK sleeping during most raids.

[jrwriter]

Yendor I play only a few hours it's ghostfaces I work allot u alrdy know this

[jrwriter]

As a matter a fact I soloed halfway though 51 u can ask allot o people like igneel. Areuangered. Hagglebaron. Internode. Suirad. :) me and u grew up on xegony p

[jrwriter]

Best part is I used a pgt 6 26 and a 6 22 silvery axe up till I got gjb solo and wriath bone hammer around 45 but by 47 saved enough pp for fbss and had all shit gear ) then I started to gear up now im a beast :) it took me 5 months to get 15 played days in I'm 55 now and 19 days 6 hours My exp gonna slow down now I'm raiding

[YendorLootmonkey]

Best part is I used a pgt 6 26 and a 6 22 silvery axe up till I got gjb solo and wriath bone hammer around 45 but by 47 saved enough pp for fbss and had all shit gear ) then I started to gear up now im a beast :) it took me 5 months to get 15 played days in I'm 55 now and 19 days 6 hours My exp gonna slow down now I'm raiding

I know who ya are, ya goofball. I guess you'd been around on P99 longer than I thought to have 5 months in already. :)

[karsten]

why do people keep trying to solo with classes like paladins and rangers? FIND A GROUP BUDDY, JOIN THE CLUB ^_^

Love,

[JenJen]

you love no one but yourself karsten :( and alcohol.

[JenJen]

There is some fact in this... Jen died the least of all actively raiding rangers on the server.







Because she was AFK sleeping during most raids.

how i do miss waking up, cheek (face cheek!) on the desk, at 5 a.m whilst hearing yendor casting crappy ranger spells repeatedly upon me.

[Daywolf]

even twinked ranger is not any good at solo in comparison. You need to wait for panic animal before that can happen. Even then, you are outdoors so you don't get the bonus, but you can find the right mobs faster than any other apart from drui. At this point, you really just want to /assist in groups if you are trying to get the fastest xp. And also you probably do not want to use taunt standing next to your tank. Taunt is really only used for protecting any mobs that break away after your casters, as you should be that line of defense between the tank and your casters if you want to be a good ranger (keep root up too). Solo? yes, but only really if you just like the ranger class and not worried about fast xp. imo rangers don't need to be twinked.

[Quiksilver]

I've soloed rather well as a ranger until just recent (lvl 43-ish)

Stock up on those bandages until you can start healing yourselves folks. I followed a simple rule the entire way to my current level (44). Heal yourselves until 90% health before each fight. This can become tedious I know, but when soloing you may never know what happens. I've broken this rule many times and died as a result because of unlucky miss streaks, full DD nukes, etc.

I started off with decent gear as a level 1. But most importantly a Silver Swiftblade (500-1000pp value) which is insane dps until level 20. I did crushbone til 12-14ish (dont remember) then I went to Kerra Isle in Odus (weird i know) i solo'd the entrance mobs and sometimes would duo with a druid friend I had at the time. At 14 or 15 I moved on to Erud's Crossing (the zone between Erudin and Qeynos on boat). There are more kerrans but these are all pure melee so they are cake. Just know which ones are the higher leveled ones. That island took me to level 21 or 23 I believe.

One important side note is that I mentioned that Silver Swifty is good until 20, earlier. It's still great dps past that but I chose to use a Springwood Stave (500-1000pp value) just for the increased damage. And it was a huge difference in DPS. Plus, the idea behind using a 2hander (for me, anyway) are those big hits. This came in handy for me when fighting healing mobs. I found that solo DPS quick weapons is like a weak DoT and those healers will almost always heal through your attacks. But with heavy hitting weapons, the damage does come slower but when it does their health just drops.

Early to mid 20s I used the Upper Guk/Lower Guk (dead side) zoneline as my next solo spot. It's safe, plus on the other side of the zoneline there may be some higher-ups willing to help you out with buffs, etc.

Mid to late 20s I moved on to Sol A. I started from the zoneline (to Lavastorm) and slowly worked my way toward the Foreman room. Then I would run back to the zoneline and start over.

Now, this is kind of where I "cheated" in purchasing a Woodsman's Staff which took me back 10kpp. However, if you take into consideration all of the other high-end weapons that other melee classes rely on for increased DPS, and how much they cost (seb croaking dirk, tranq staff, etc) this buy granted me the most bang for my buck.

This is where things began to slow down for me. Thus far I had been using bandages til 50% then healing the rest of the way. But the problem is, as a ranger our BW skill gets capped at 100 until further notice (40, i believe. then it raises to 150, until level 50?? Could use some guidance here) >.<

From level 30 until 44 I chose Mistmoore. It's an ourdoor zone and harmony comes in VERY handy here to avoid pulling trains on yourself. Like Sol A, I began at the entrance and worked my way up to the graveyard, then back again. Until I advanced in levels and could take harder mobs. Mid 30s landed me in an area beneath the Castle Entrance (near Entyni sp?). Upon reaching late 30s/early 40s I advanced near Caitliff and crawled through those tunnels single pulling the gargoyles.

Alright. So in your travels as a ranger you may stumble upon mobs who like to slow you. These mobs also tend to heal. So, when using an already slow 2hander this occurrence can prove to be fatal. Luckily we are given a low-level, low-mana root spell where you can park this shamanistic foe behind a corner and wait out the detrimental effects then give it another go.

Yes, I claim to solo in all of these areas without much complication. However!.... whether it was due to boredom, friends wanting to tag along, or the urge to go to town on mobs while grouped, I did not grind levels 1-44 completely alone. I'm simply stating that it can be done if you can handle the downtime on solo expeditions.

Feel free to PM with any questions you might have. Safe travels :)