Time for Teal, the ReAl dAeL!!! ❤️

[starkind]

Characters only live 3 months and become ghosts permanently afterwards.
Ghost characters are non-kos and non-interactive with the gameworld, they can click and open doors though, and have their own chat channels, can't talk to living pcs unless the living pcs have spells to see-undead or ghosttalk
You can bequeath one single item via one of the lawyer NPCs in the town halls of the main cities. Doing this requires depositing other items as a 'tax' so you must give away 10 or so magical lvl 40+ items to the npc that will never be recovered.
A command to check how much time you have left, /pulse or something, 'you have 1 day left on your journey'
Gear has diminishing returns the farther away in level you are from when it drops, so an item that drops off a level 30 mob, does nothing for a lvl 19 character, has 1% effect on a lvl 20 character, and 50% effect on a lvl 30 character. And full effect on a lvl 40 character.
nonmagical and tradeskilled items always have full effect
Every race and class combination has an epic 0.5 quest that rewards a decent but classicly not OP item and lets you then progress past lvl 20
Everything is droppable
tradeskills level 10x faster and fail less often and cost 25x more
enchanted, vials etc or is vendor bought
Resists on even cons and higher is 5x and every mob has a buff to MR and other resists to varrying degrees exp mobs not so much, hard/named mobs, guards of named mobs, boss mobs tons of MR, your only going to have a 5% chance to hit a raid mob with anything. It will be nigh impossible to solo regular end game boss mobs like archmagus/lord.
TEAL colored (low con but still gives exp) mobs like -8 lvls will have much reduced resists/ac/atk and should be soloable by everyone
City mobs liek Sir Lucan and other guild leaders and masters will have more normal stats and still be mini raid bosses, spawn more regularly like every 6 hrs, have big faction normalized hits and drop more classicly less oP normalized classic loots like I talked about above as a sort of end game quest/faction system which will flag you for pvp for 1 day when you attack them.
Attacking a dragon or other raid boss will flag you for pvp for 1 day
Healing or buffing a player who is raid flagged will flag you for pvp for 1 day
There will be teams based on good/evil/race and you will be able to do quests to join a neutral team. Teams will effect who you can pvp with once u get flagged in combat with npcs.
PvP will be with all level ranges and anyone can attack a pvp flagged player if u do u are flagged for 1 day and all pvp stats are normalized so a lvl 1 and lvl 60 use the same stats and skill points in pvp regardless of gear and levels, maybe we could give the higher lvl player a 5% bonus in to hit/defense/resists
Pumice is instant cast and stacks up to 40 charges.

[starkind]

Characters only live 3 months and become ghosts permanently afterwards.
Ghost characters are non-kos and non-interactive with the gameworld, they can click and open doors though, and have their own chat channels, can't talk to living pcs unless the living pcs have spells to see-undead or ghosttalk
You can bequeath one single item via one of the lawyer NPCs in the town halls of the main cities. Doing this requires depositing other items as a 'tax' so you must give away 10 or so magical lvl 40+ items to the npc that will never be recovered.
A command to check how much time you have left, /pulse or something, 'you have 1 day left on your journey'
Gear has diminishing returns the farther away in level you are from when it drops, so an item that drops off a level 30 mob, does nothing for a lvl 19 character, has 1% effect on a lvl 20 character, and 50% effect on a lvl 30 character. And full effect on a lvl 40 character.
nonmagical and tradeskilled items always have full effect
Every race and class combination has an epic 0.5 quest that rewards a decent but classicly not OP item and lets you then progress past lvl 20
Everything is droppable
tradeskills level 10x faster and fail less often and cost 25x more
enchanted, vials etc or is vendor bought
Resists on even cons and higher is 5x and every mob has a buff to MR and other resists to varrying degrees exp mobs not so much, hard/named mobs, guards of named mobs, boss mobs tons of MR, your only going to have a 5% chance to hit a raid mob with anything. It will be nigh impossible to solo regular end game boss mobs like archmagus/lord.
TEAL colored (low con but still gives exp) mobs like -8 lvls will have much reduced resists/ac/atk and should be soloable by everyone
City mobs liek Sir Lucan and other guild leaders and masters will have more normal stats and still be mini raid bosses, spawn more regularly like every 6 hrs, have big faction normalized hits and drop more classicly less oP normalized classic loots like I talked about above as a sort of end game quest/faction system which will flag you for pvp for 1 day when you attack them.
Attacking a dragon or other raid boss will flag you for pvp for 1 day
Healing or buffing a player who is raid flagged will flag you for pvp for 1 day
There will be teams based on good/evil/race and you will be able to do quests to join a neutral team. Teams will effect who you can pvp with once u get flagged in combat with npcs.
PvP will be with all level ranges and anyone can attack a pvp flagged player if u do u are flagged for 1 day and all pvp stats are normalized so a lvl 1 and lvl 60 use the same stats and skill points in pvp regardless of gear and levels, maybe we could give the higher lvl player a 5% bonus in to hit/defense/resists
Pumice is instant cast and stacks up to 40 charges.


will add in and finish more classic quests invovling the city populations, like troll warriors collecting trophies from good aligned warrior guild leaders, bertox temple having quests to kill priests of different temples etc

[starkind]

the quested team (there's 4 of them lets say and they are the 4th team) is FFA when pvp flagged they can attack eachother, call them the neutral team but really more like the pirate team
when flagged good can attack evil, evil good, neutral/human team can attack team evil and not team good yes it's imba, you wanted to be a troll though right? you could have rolled barbarian shaman
maybe open up a few class choices, DE bard, troll wiz, ogre mage, dwarf shaman, gnome druid, ogre druid, troll priest etc

[starkind]

oh, and finally, most important, only trains are illegal ish like training raids while not pvp flagged

otherwise it's whatever goes

kill stealing is legal, whoever does most dmg gets the loot bring ur A game for zlandicar

[OuterChimp]

The real Teal server lives on...for those of us who know how to log into it.

[Grumph]

Pumice is instant cast and stacks up to 40 charges.


LOL

[Gustoo]

There should be a way to counter or reduce the impact of 40x pumice hits.

otherwise sounds really cool.

[wuanahto]

covid server?

[starkind]

Kerrans are always pvp flagged and can always pvp everyone
Kerrens start in kerra island and can be warrior, sham, bard, druid only
if kerrans kill all the notable npcs in your city within a 24 hour period that city becomes overrun with kerrans and all npcs respawn as kerran versions for one and a half weeks 10 days

There should be a way to counter or reduce the impact of 40x pumice hits.

otherwise sounds really cool.

I really feel u here, but pumice juggling makes things more interesting

maybe no stacking pumice but still isnta, so only as many as you have bag slots for

maybe .5 or 3 second cast but uninteruptable i don't want to mess with channeling code tho

it just sucks that 10 casters can spam root on a melee would make it imba u should be able to dispell magic like an inquisitor on this server because magic sucks and is a tool of evil and really only direct heals/dds/taps should matter, except maybe disease and poison if ur dumb enough to not wear any care those can't be pumiced, they can be cured tho

so liek there woulld be a tierd threat system from spells

i just think root/invis and all that garbage should be a strategic opener and then not really a game changer once u and ur teammates have pumice going

bards and rangers can spam that shit anyway so it just gives more capability to warriors and rogues to spam it too

[starkind]

could do a lore pumice with like 5-15 charges only, let that be insta

would make it much more strategic when u pumice

[Gustoo]

Maybe instant pumice but its 1 charge expendable, not lore.

but then that does just mean people have to go to vendors all the time.

[Tunabros]

so much the true classic experience

this is the dumbest fucking idea i ever heard in my life

then again, starkind never has something good to say

[myrddraal]

we need purple server. RP PVP.

[Ooloo]

Teal was the bitchmade server for loser ass dorks. It was aquired by green in a cold heartless corporate transaction, as it should have been.

[Trexller]

the project described by starkind would require so much work that it would end up being a totally different game with EQ labels.

so maybe this community could crowdfund an MMO. we know better than most what makes a game great. its like why CD projekt red was so successful, games designed and built by gamers. we just need to avoid the mistakes they made, namely selling out to corporate overlords.

we couldnt do worse than the cyberpunk launch

[starkind]

the project described by starkind would require so much work that it would end up being a totally different game with EQ labels.

so maybe this community could crowdfund an MMO. we know better than most what makes a game great. its like why CD projekt red was so successful, games designed and built by gamers. we just need to avoid the mistakes they made, namely selling out to corporate overlords.

we couldnt do worse than the cyberpunk launch
Thanks. If I was functioning at half speed even I'd definitely want to spend most of my time making a kewl new mmo. Means a lot to me even if you're not really all on board with my vision (tm)

[starkind]

we need purple server. RP PVP.

Agreeeeed.

[Ooloo]

I think we must accept that brad kind of made a good game by accident. I was already worried about pantheon before he passed away, there's just way too much design bloat going on. Slap modern graphics and maybe one or two small qol changes on classic EQ and put it out as a new franchise. Everyone will know it as "that everquest game". You will corner the market on the people who want that.

[Ooloo]

Some kinda nerd project, it looks cool though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmzwjjFOluE

[Trexller]

Thanks. If I was functioning at half speed even I'd definitely want to spend most of my time making a kewl new mmo. Means a lot to me even if you're not really all on board with my vision (tm)

my bad maybe i missed the spirit and scope of your project.

it sounded like a total ground up redesign of EQ, right?

[Boptop]

pantheon ain't happening

[starkind]

Some kinda nerd project, it looks cool though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmzwjjFOluE

Gnawls videos r like EQ church :D

[Swish]

Some kinda nerd project, it looks cool though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmzwjjFOluE

Old Freeport, ewwww ... they revamped it for a reason :o

[Swish]

https://youtu.be/PmzwjjFOluE?t=188

(same vid, always wanted to do this)

[starkind]

my bad maybe i missed the spirit and scope of your project.

it sounded like a total ground up redesign of EQ, right?

Naw. I love EQ core mechanics and even the formulas behind it. I just wanted to do EQ plus. Like more RP, quest, and pvp options, with some entropy to keep it fresh. Maybe a slight rebalance so everyone is at the same power scale until they out level mobs.

Just add more of what makes classic EQ great. Without really changing the classes. Just making dark blue, even cons harder, more fully fleshed out and varied. Like maybe s ro, oasis, n ro dervs are weak to cold, strong against fire at even con levels. Planar mobs are tougher, fewer weaknesses. And people will have more incentive to tradeskill and rp in the safe spaces that the casual content is, like 1 group able mobs, thered be more of that. Still raid content though. It would require community and choices and more risk tho.

I just want to fully realize EQs strengths and diversity and community aspects. And create some mechanics that make end game more interesting and characters would now have a real story arc from beginning to end. With incentive for players to either carry on that characters persona in a new one or try a different one entirely.

I like the idea of fleshing out the in game factions and enabling players to interact within different factions themselves in more novel and competitive ways. For that there needs to be more meaningful alternative loot and story then what the most basic experience provides.

EQ classic game mechanics are great though. And pvp is really close to good in many ways that modern games ruin in order to provide perfect balance and keep players subbing.

[Gustoo]

hmm yes

[Trexller]

So we crowdfund, obtain the rights to EQ, and then we hire some devs and make an EQ Reboot.

We do not guarantee any returns on investment. All investors will understand that this project is a labor of love. We do not release an incomplete product. We work on it until We are all satisfied with the build of the game. We place game mechanics over flashy graphics. We rely on our experience and other old school player input for our game features.

These should be core values of the company we start to build the game.

[Jimjam]

Naw. I love EQ core mechanics and even the formulas behind it. I just wanted to do EQ plus. Like more RP, quest, and pvp options, with some entropy to keep it fresh. Maybe a slight rebalance so everyone is at the same power scale until they out level mobs.

Just add more of what makes classic EQ great. Without really changing the classes. Just making dark blue, even cons harder, more fully fleshed out and varied. Like maybe s ro, oasis, n ro dervs are weak to cold, strong against fire at even con levels. Planar mobs are tougher, fewer weaknesses. And people will have more incentive to tradeskill and rp in the safe spaces that the casual content is, like 1 group able mobs, thered be more of that. Still raid content though. It would require community and choices and more risk tho.

I just want to fully realize EQs strengths and diversity and community aspects. And create some mechanics that make end game more interesting and characters would now have a real story arc from beginning to end. With incentive for players to either carry on that characters persona in a new one or try a different one entirely.

I like the idea of fleshing out the in game factions and enabling players to interact within different factions themselves in more novel and competitive ways. For that there needs to be more meaningful alternative loot and story then what the most basic experience provides.

EQ classic game mechanics are great though. And pvp is really close to good in many ways that modern games ruin in order to provide perfect balance and keep players subbing.

<3 love it!

Any graphics rehaul that people want would need to focus on realistic animations with colours done in a style that mimics dnd/warhammer figure paint jobs

I loved how logging in to eq the first time it was like some tabletop mniatures came to life.

[AenorVZ]

Drugs.

[Ooloo]

It would be really cool if some talented artists could somehow make custom zones in the same art style as classic, but totally new zones\zone connections. Make like an "antonica 2" using the same textures and geometric styles as say... kunark, more detailed than vanilla but not as modern looking as Luclin+ engine.

Granted it would all be volunteers and this would never happen, but I think it would be cooler than just reskinning existing zones with custom lore\mobs ala shards of dalaya

[Ooloo]

https://youtu.be/PmzwjjFOluE?t=188

(same vid, always wanted to do this)

Lol yeah that part was awesome.

I just really like how you can see from freeport all the way into commons there's no zoneline. EQ in VR would be the ultimate nerdgasm

[Arvan]

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[starkind]

So we crowdfund, obtain the rights to EQ, and then we hire some devs and make an EQ Reboot.

We do not guarantee any returns on investment. All investors will understand that this project is a labor of love. We do not release an incomplete product. We work on it until We are all satisfied with the build of the game. We place game mechanics over flashy graphics. We rely on our experience and other old school player input for our game features.

These should be core values of the company we start to build the game.
Everyone is welcome to take my ideas and run with it. I release all rights to my work in this thread.

Anyway, yeah you have the right of it.

I'm happy to dream right now.

[starkind]

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Look to your right, left. Anyone there? What I write isn't that important. It's all going to white noise faster than I can really keep up with myself.

I guess what I am trying to say is I understand where I am. What is happening. What my capabilities are. Don't have pity on me. I don't need it.

Look to you're right, left. Who's there? What is happening with you? How's your pixel hoard? Still feeling good? I'm glad. I hope it lasts.

[Jimjam]

GET this man his custom server ASAP!

[Gustoo]

It would be really cool if some talented artists could somehow make custom zones in the same art style as classic, but totally new zones\zone connections. Make like an "antonica 2" using the same textures and geometric styles as say... kunark, more detailed than vanilla but not as modern looking as Luclin+ engine.

Granted it would all be volunteers and this would never happen, but I think it would be cooler than just reskinning existing zones with custom lore\mobs ala shards of dalaya

I have no actual technical knowledge about anything, but with the EQEMU code open source and all the other aspects of EQ available, it seems like making some custom zones with eq textures and running in the EQ EMU environment seems really possible.

Possibly coding the AI pathing and behavior would be challenging, but again I've got no idea.

It would be fun to make an alternate EQ world.

[starkind]

classic is the best game

there's plenty room for more content

like a low lvl katana with +3 agi in blackburrow etc

or a nother version of rubi bp with 10 regen instead of fungi regen randomly off some lvl 50's mob

[starkind]

A lot of unfinished, uknown quests too

[starkind]

and a lot of monster factions which could be renegade factions with classic rewards and alternative vendors and bankers to the main cities

RE has a banker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For the WIN

[starkind]

I would definitely be doing this stuff if i wasn't brain damaged :( TBI, drugs, hormones, all three or w/e

[starkind]

GET this man his custom server ASAP!

<3

[starkind]

in fact on my disability i could easily afford to host the server somewhere i should just do that and get ppl to help me

considering it

[Maiten]

RP PvP server? I'm working on it!

[starkind]

RP PvP server? I'm working on it!

Awesome! Ya I reread some of your posts. You planning for the titanium client? Classic feel?

I want to do no boxing. Probably would use titanium too.