View Full Version : TAKP Tentative PoP Release Date
Trexller
11-25-2021, 11:27 AM
January 5th, 2022
https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/tentative-pop-release-date.20524/
you asked. they delivered.
Danth
11-25-2021, 03:35 PM
Seems like a golden opportunity for them to release the single character per player server that so many people obviously want, but they don't seem to fully appreciate how much demand is out there. Sooner or later they'll give it a try. When they do I would not be surprised if they end up exceeding P99's population. The EQ-emu community seems to harbor a large proportion of the raid-obsessed crowd (much larger than the original game) that EQ MAC's Planes of Power era catered directly towards. From sitting over here, it looks as if they're sitting on top of the proverbial gold mine and are too unsure of themselves to make use of its full potential.
Danth
Scalem
11-25-2021, 04:08 PM
Seems like a golden opportunity for them to release the single character per player server that so many people obviously want, but they don't seem to fully appreciate how much demand is out there. Sooner or later they'll give it a try. When they do I would not be surprised if they end up exceeding P99's population. The EQ-emu community seems to harbor a large proportion of the raid-obsessed crowd (much larger than the original game) that EQ MAC's Planes of Power era catered directly towards. From sitting over here, it looks as if they're sitting on top of the proverbial gold mine and are too unsure of themselves to make use of its full potential.
Danth
The pixel neck beards here could never handle the rotations on TAKP. How are you supposed to enjoy classic Eq if you aren’t denying other people from seeing content?
Jimjam
11-25-2021, 04:10 PM
Seems like a golden opportunity for them to release the single character per player server that so many people obviously want, but they don't seem to fully appreciate how much demand is out there. Sooner or later they'll give it a try. When they do I would not be surprised if they end up exceeding P99's population. The EQ-emu community seems to harbor a large proportion of the raid-obsessed crowd (much larger than the original game) that EQ MAC's Planes of Power era catered directly towards. From sitting over here, it looks as if they're sitting on top of the proverbial gold mine and are too unsure of themselves to make use of its full potential.
Danth
I'd be so in.
Yeah the boxing rule is the only reason I won't try takp. I'm not a big fan of luclin or pop content but I love the AA system.
loramin
11-25-2021, 05:11 PM
I'd be so in.
Dolalin
11-25-2021, 05:34 PM
I tried really hard to get into PoP on Agnarr but it's just too tied up with all the reasons I quit EQ back in 2003. I love TAKP though, they do great work over there.
Whale biologist
11-25-2021, 06:26 PM
You hoodlums will have to wait until it goes open source to make your single-boxing server, this is about preserving EQmac and its community
Hakubi
11-25-2021, 07:06 PM
Shame about the boxing cancer. The biggest case of blueballs to not have a p99 ruleset in PoP era.
Croco
11-25-2021, 07:12 PM
I might even be able to put up with boxing if you could mouse scroll until then hard pass.
Nexii
11-25-2021, 07:12 PM
PoP was great but yea I don't want to have to play 3 toons at once to keep up or get anything done
Ripqozko
11-25-2021, 07:16 PM
No mouse scroll, no play
Ennewi
11-25-2021, 07:51 PM
Mouse scroll really does set the RPG time for an MMO. One unclsassic feature of p99 that fits perfectly. It's not first person but close enough.
Ennewi
11-25-2021, 07:54 PM
Mouse scroll really does set the RPG tone for an MMO. One unclassic feature of p99 that fits perfectly. It's not first person but close enough.
RPG tone, not time. Autocorrect. Worst. Feature. Ever.
Trexller
11-25-2021, 08:36 PM
nobody forces you to play 3 toons, or 2 toons, and you don't fall behind just playing 1 toon, you can always get into another 3 box group, or start your own PUGs, or join a guild
if you wanna play 1 toon and be bored all the time, feel free to to so! I always see like, "single 55 <Class> LFG" in the server channel, plus ive known players who are happy just playing 2 classes.
Plenty of 3 boxers invite single players to their group, there is a 4th person xp group bonus.
I don't usually invite a 4th, but I imagine single players can be of value, as they have their sole focus on one screen.
Trexller
11-25-2021, 09:07 PM
i'll add that gear is dirt cheap, and only gets cheaper, bazaar economics FTW.
I paid 17k for a fungi, 6.5k for a cloak of flames, 650pp for a wavecrasher, etc etc
unsunghero
11-25-2021, 10:12 PM
PoP was great but yea I don't want to have to play 3 toons at once to keep up or get anything done
Honestly the playstyle of certain classes like mage is so simplistic that boxing can actually make the game more dynamic
2box’s are not bad or hard, especially when you do a good pairing like mage+something or cleric+something. Two classes that both require a lot of micromanagement would be a pain. But pick the right class combo and use the hell out of /autofollow and you get used to the constant alt-tabbing in combat
3box is whole different thing. Your third better be a bard auto-playing a song or you gonna be tabbing like a maniac. I can’t even imagine bigger groups than that without some sort of macro or outside-the-game UI assistance
Trexller
11-26-2021, 12:29 AM
Honestly the playstyle of certain classes like mage is so simplistic that boxing can actually make the game more dynamic
2box’s are not bad or hard, especially when you do a good pairing like mage+something or cleric+something. Two classes that both require a lot of micromanagement would be a pain. But pick the right class combo and use the hell out of /autofollow and you get used to the constant alt-tabbing in combat
3box is whole different thing. Your third better be a bard auto-playing a song or you gonna be tabbing like a maniac. I can’t even imagine bigger groups than that without some sort of macro or outside-the-game UI assistance
yeah autofollow works extremely well on TAKP, there are legal 3rd party programs like hotkeynet (included in Speedz TAKP client download) that vastly lower your key strokes when swapping windows, or training other skills, or a few other things -- DO NOT abuse this program to automate, the ban hammer will drop.
Autofollow works so well, it reminds me of the /stick command from MQ2
Hotkey lines can do more than on p99 for example: /pause 10; /cast 3, is a legal and extremely useful command. Pauses do not take an entire hotkey line to themselves.
After you figure out hotkeynet, and you set up good in-game hotkeys, you are gonna do really well, then if you want the social aspect, invite other players to your trio.
mouse wheel scroll is still a you being obtuse problem. You got another issue with sunk cost fallacy? Theres nothing stopping you from loading P99 along with TAKP, I often do have both servers up.
Run my mana out on a toon in p99, then screw around with some pulls on TAKP, tab back over to P99 and run that mana out again
Trexller
11-26-2021, 12:37 AM
The pixel neck beards here could never handle the rotations on TAKP. How are you supposed to enjoy classic Eq if you aren’t denying other people from seeing content?
Thats true, although on TAKP toxicity is an instaban. They don't fuck around, they don't listen to every little whiny bitch who thinks they deserve a mob more than another guild.
One thing that I think is fuckin' awesome is that, if you are a known toxic server troll, they might just wait until you get 60 and 500 AAs, then ban your toxic ass.
Definitely not like P99 where the staff cowtows to the "super ultra neckbeards" and gives them what they want, if they piss and whine enough about it. No UN bullshit.
The TAKP guilds have a respectable rotation that they all adhere too, and theres very little, if any, drama that unfolds with regard to raid targets.
They will just fucking ban you.
branamil
11-26-2021, 12:49 AM
i'll add that gear is dirt cheap, and only gets cheaper, bazaar economics FTW.
I paid 17k for a fungi, 6.5k for a cloak of flames, 650pp for a wavecrasher, etc etc
Uh if you mean inferior velious gear then yeah, because there's luclin shit out. The bIs stuff still costs 200k+
So far TAKP is a pretty good server but stop pretending like it's a paradise. There's essentially no grouping or social content as 98% of players are boxing. It also sucks to find high end rare drops and spells because with only about 100 players the economy is like a trickle.
Trexller
11-26-2021, 01:39 AM
Uh if you mean inferior velious gear then yeah, because there's luclin shit out. The bIs stuff still costs 200k+
So far TAKP is a pretty good server but stop pretending like it's a paradise. There's essentially no grouping or social content as 98% of players are boxing. It also sucks to find high end rare drops and spells because with only about 100 players the economy is like a trickle.
All of that cheap velious gear ends up being all you need to break into luclin content. Many things in luclin can't be done with a trio, so you pair with another trio or you invite people to your trio. Gearing up is easy AF on TAKP. P99 economy is total garbage. The bazaar prevents 1% of players from dominating the pricing market, in a bazaar setting you have to compete with the few other people trying to sell the same item.
you don't need BiS gear at all, in any content, in any xpac, min/maxing becomes less of an issue in every xpac.
Maybe TAKP isn't a paradise, but by comparison to anything that P99 can offer, it is.
I still play blue sometimes, because my toons have been well geared for years now. Its nice for when Im stoned out of my mind and just wanna screw around with 1 toon and only a few duties to cover.
Jimjam
11-26-2021, 04:25 AM
You hoodlums will have to wait until it goes open source to make your single-boxing server, this is about preserving EQmac and its community
Touch/e!
Honestly the playstyle of certain classes like mage is so simplistic that boxing can actually make the game more dynamic
2box’s are not bad or hard, especially when you do a good pairing like mage+something or cleric+something. Two classes that both require a lot of micromanagement would be a pain. But pick the right class combo and use the hell out of /autofollow and you get used to the constant alt-tabbing in combat
3box is whole different thing. Your third better be a bard auto-playing a song or you gonna be tabbing like a maniac. I can’t even imagine bigger groups than that without some sort of macro or outside-the-game UI assistance
I enjoyed 2 boxing my Shaman with my friend's Ranger during PoP era, was quite a bit of button pressing. More recently I did a Warrior and a Rogue on Vox in TBS (I'd move the rogue using auto follow on the warrior and have a merc or two out). These times were fun, but not as much fun as grouping with other people (which I somehow found I did less while boxing - despite my intentions).
kempoguy80
11-26-2021, 02:55 PM
The only things keeping me from trying it again is the lack of mouse scroll, low server pop, and the group of friends I have on p99. I could probably convince my friends to play, but not until there's mouse scroll.
Gustoo
11-26-2021, 04:02 PM
Play blue for mouse scroll
Croco
11-26-2021, 04:54 PM
Play blue for mouse scroll
It should tell you all you need to know about how poorly the box owners and gm's are running blue that so many people would be willing to jump ship for takp if they added in mouse scroll. This truly is the darkest timeline.
Gustoo
11-26-2021, 06:21 PM
There is no “so many people”
These servers have never been more perfectly like classic eq.
The only thing that’s messed up right now is that there isn’t a fresh red server or even a statement of intent on the existing red.
It’s not like TAKP is news. The grand creation, shards of Dalaya, and takp are awesome emu servers that all contribute to the emu community as a whole. That’s why I laugh when p99 people ask this project to go to luclin and beyond. Literally every other server does that. They’re great, go play them.
I do get tired of adjusting to UI changes after playing for over ten years on p99 and having something nerfed, and I personally hate how shit the game works with the new mandatory light FX to replicate human erudite barbarian night blindness, those really harm my experience because they’re fucked up not because they’re too classic for me.
But I’m here for the classic and the only thing that would make it better is a vanilla locked server with legacy items implemented in a custom way so there’s no rat race because I don’t count manastones as part of my IRL retirement plan and I don’t get hard thinking about having a manastone when no one else can.
Croco
11-27-2021, 09:05 AM
There is no “so many people”
There are. There are dozens of us, possibly over 100, that would jump ship on p99 if takp were tweaked or there was a takp'like server with mouse scroll and no boxing.
unsunghero
11-27-2021, 12:37 PM
Ya I hear on Blue and even green now there are indeed “too many people” but it’s because everyone is bunched up at the higher levels competing over dwindling numbers of targets
Gustoo
11-27-2021, 01:05 PM
Yeah it’s because the server at the meta is too crowded.
Red 2 will help a lot. Some people can try it and a lot of those people will find it a better way to EQ and the meta can be more interesting for longer.
Jimjam
11-27-2021, 01:20 PM
Ya I hear on Blue and even green now there are indeed “too many people” but it’s because everyone is bunched up at the higher levels competing over dwindling numbers of targets
Grouping / levelling on both are pretty dead in my experience. Might just be I'm playing at suboptimal play times.
I think the 'over population' is just that there are 100 people that all want to do the top 5 camps in the game.
If you want a camp per person try an instanced server or red.
starkind
11-27-2021, 01:54 PM
I wish we had a vanilla TAKP client with no boxing allowed!
Trexller
11-27-2021, 01:57 PM
why do you all care so much about how someone else plays a video game?
go watch alliance chat for awhile, "49 ench lfg or as 4th", "55 pal lfg or as 4th" etc etc
people do play takp as singles all the time.
starkind
11-27-2021, 02:00 PM
why do you all care so much about how someone else plays a video game?
go watch alliance chat for awhile, "49 ench lfg or as 4th", "55 pal lfg or as 4th" etc etc
people do play takp as singles all the time.
I dont
i think the server and community is great and i think boxing is good too
i just want another one :P with a better client! one that supports more classic features, so wish i could use that older trilogy client or just classic/kunark only client b4 velious ruins the game rly with mudflation - thats what i would base my custom server on
--- i dont play on takp personally because i find i just box and then i wind up not having any fun personally if that makes any sense at all... its funner for me to struggle or twink a character and not box
Trexller
11-27-2021, 02:05 PM
ignore all the gear handouts and the constant MGBs in PoK, and the struggle becomes real!
starkind
11-27-2021, 02:10 PM
ya but then i box and alt tab and never talk to anyone and i end up spending 16 hrs a day being weird in a game by myself
p99 kinda forces me to interact with people at least to like get low lvl nontwinky items and stuff
starkind
11-27-2021, 02:10 PM
all points valid
"Rangers do not get Autofire"
ouchie
Trexller
11-28-2021, 02:10 PM
"Rangers do not get Autofire"
ouchie
you can use a 3rd party program for ranger autofire
hit F9 x2 and use ins/del for the 3rd person angle you get with mouse wheel
Croco
11-28-2021, 03:14 PM
you can use a 3rd party program for ranger autofire
hit F9 x2 and use ins/del for the 3rd person angle you get with mouse wheel
No thanks. Mouse scroll pls.
Allishia
11-29-2021, 10:44 AM
Would be neat of boxing wasn't allowed. But boxing sucks /nod
Gustoo
11-29-2021, 04:41 PM
Someone was complaining about mouse scroll - i was just on green and mouse scroll was activated what is the complaint?
Triode
11-29-2021, 05:07 PM
No thanks. Mouse scroll pls.
Not sure why anyone would go to TAKP when mouse scroll, autofire and melody all work perfectly on Wayfarers Haven (formerly p2002). Trust and team are also amazing server admins and have LDoN up and running as of a couple of months ago.
Great alternative to p99 when you feel like experiencing new content. Some folks only play 1 toon. Most end up running 3, at least for leveling. Frankly, not having to pay for ports is just incredibly liberating when exploring the world, and getting started is easy since folks regularly hand out good starter gear. Who needs a fungi when you can just run around with a bard on autofollow? Wish monks there were pre-defensive nerf, but you can't have it all.
Graahle
11-29-2021, 05:19 PM
No thanks. Mouse scroll pls.
You with all the rest of you fake classic fans
Graahle
11-29-2021, 05:20 PM
Looking forward to the day they finally remove mousewheel scroll. The rage will be hilarious.
Gustoo
11-29-2021, 05:25 PM
When did mousewheel scroll get added to real everquest?
Is it part of velious timeline?
branamil
11-29-2021, 06:35 PM
i'll add that gear is dirt cheap, and only gets cheaper, bazaar economics FTW.
I paid 17k for a fungi, 6.5k for a cloak of flames, 650pp for a wavecrasher, etc etc
Price of Burnout4 on p99: 400 plat
Price of Burnout4 on takp: infinite plat because there's so few players killing what drops it that it's nonexistent
Trexller
11-29-2021, 06:47 PM
Price of Burnout4 on p99: 400 plat
Price of Burnout4 on takp: infinite plat because there's so few players killing what drops it that it's nonexistent
yeah thats not true at all. people's banks are full of spells n other gear. /1 wtb burnout IV
or camp it yourself, with your well balanced min/maxxed trio
Danth
11-29-2021, 10:42 PM
When did mousewheel scroll get added to real everquest?
Is it part of velious timeline?
No, it was post-classic era, post planes of power launch, even. That's why EQmac doesn't have it. It could be disabled on P1999 but the server admins keep it because they like it too and don't feel it's too big a deal.
Danth
Danth
11-29-2021, 10:47 PM
real everquest
(Can't edit in RNF)
On a different tangent, P1999 Blue is real EQ insofar as I care anymore. Twelve years here versus less than three for the classic era of the original game means I've spent a lot more time here than I did there.
Nuggie
11-29-2021, 10:48 PM
Uh if you mean inferior velious gear then yeah, because there's luclin shit out. The bIs stuff still costs 200k+
So far TAKP is a pretty good server but stop pretending like it's a paradise. There's essentially no grouping or social content as 98% of players are boxing. It also sucks to find high end rare drops and spells because with only about 100 players the economy is like a trickle.
The last 2 times I logged in i grouped with people I didn't know.
Croco
11-29-2021, 11:46 PM
You with all the rest of you fake classic fans
Who said I was a fan of classic? My favorite era of the game is PoP.
Graahle
11-29-2021, 11:48 PM
Who said I was a fan of classic? My favorite era of the game is PoP.
Then why the fuck are you wasting your time here?
Croco
11-30-2021, 12:08 AM
Then why the fuck are you wasting your time here?
sunk cost fallacy and I don't like boxing
branamil
11-30-2021, 12:30 AM
yeah thats not true at all. people's banks are full of spells n other gear. /1 wtb burnout IV
or camp it yourself, with your well balanced min/maxxed trio
You can search the entire history of /1 in discord and it's literally never been for sale, just dozens of people searching for it. And it's never been in the bazaar.
I'm not sure why you can't just be honest about the shortcomings of the server. I like it better than p99 but there's no need to oversell it.
Graahle
11-30-2021, 12:31 AM
sunk cost fallacy and I don't like boxing
I respect your candor about sunk-cost. Very refreshing in this community of shitters.
Gustoo
11-30-2021, 01:06 AM
sunk cost fallacy and I don't like boxing
Just jump ship bro. P99 will be in the same place you leave it, if you go now.
I didn't realize TAKP was only at luclin I would have been more brutal to the people complaining about P99 and suggesting it goes to luclin.
Sux to want enforced no boxing. I kinda get it. Its a very unclassic experience to have slave player characters around everyone, makes it a totally different non roleplaying game.
"What class should I be? Who cares! I have an entire support team of classes!"
Thats how shards of dalaya was but it only allowed 2 boxing so you basically just make your duo of choice. I think I was a shaman and an SK there but only went to like level 15
Trexller
11-30-2021, 01:24 AM
You can search the entire history of /1 in discord and it's literally never been for sale, just dozens of people searching for it. And it's never been in the bazaar.
I'm not sure why you can't just be honest about the shortcomings of the server. I like it better than p99 but there's no need to oversell it.
F discord. not classic.
MelxDruid
11-30-2021, 01:10 PM
You guys and your mouse wheels.......first person and f9 view for life.
So as a former EQMAC (Al'Kabor) raider, and current p99 green + TAKP raider, I can say each server has its own thing going on.
The ultimate decision for me was what era do I want to play in? The answer was both.
I loved Luclin and PoP on EQMAC, so I gave it a second shot on TAKP last year and I single box in a raiding guild. I usually send tells to find xp groups, or get with guildies, and I have no problem finding AAs. The raid scene is rotated, so if you like having a set schedule to raid it is nice (my guild is 3 days a week at 10 pm est). Also next month you get to experience the race to PoTime...
P99 is great if you lust for the velious raid era, competitive raid scene, and other classic features like EC tunnel, no AA, no beastlord, no vanshir. Am I having a blast since Velious dropped? Absolutely...but for me the golden era was PoP, as I quit after GoD expansion.
Right now if I plan my time right I can enjoy being a support class on TAKP raids, and a tank class on p99 green raids.
Gustoo
11-30-2021, 01:28 PM
Melx seems like cool guy.
If I was a top level 60 raider I think that I would like POP too, as AA's are insanely fun
For me the value of Vanilla, Kunark, and Velious (less so velious) is that in these eras there is still a lot of high end droppable gear that makes a difference, and the item progression is a bit more natural versus luclin items dropping from level 20 mobs being better than vanilla worlds best in slot items.
But as a level 60 raider none of that matters what do you care about how screwed up the progression is. What matters to the raider is the level 60 to the level 60 with 300 AA's and best in slot progression and in POP this is more fun.
As for me, I like Vanilla where even bronze armor has value, and iksars don't exist to make human monks and all other necros obsolete.
but velious is a good compromise because the game still fits together pretty good and I do love those velious textures - rygorr looked so cool the first time I saw it.
Seems like a golden opportunity for them to release the single character per player server that so many people obviously want, but they don't seem to fully appreciate how much demand is out there. Sooner or later they'll give it a try. When they do I would not be surprised if they end up exceeding P99's population. The EQ-emu community seems to harbor a large proportion of the raid-obsessed crowd (much larger than the original game) that EQ MAC's Planes of Power era catered directly towards. From sitting over here, it looks as if they're sitting on top of the proverbial gold mine and are too unsure of themselves to make use of its full potential.
Danth
1000% this!!!! it boggles my mind that these other EMU servers havent figured out that boxing is what diseases them from day 1. I loved P2002 - bug free, true to era, great performance, far more active staff than P99's... but 3 boxing will never build a community; so it festers with less than 50 players a night. a dead server walking. The template for success is there.. P99 proves it. And regardless of what the classic-only robots return - EverQuest reached its perfection in PoP era. classes, AI, content, itemization, crafting - so good.
hey other EMU servers... wake the fuk up and grow some balls
Tewaz
11-30-2021, 02:35 PM
I think boxing is fine if you do something to limit it like locking boxed characters to a zone or giving a 3 minute window to box.
I had fun leveling 2 trios on TAKP but I did 99% of it solo with my boxes and that just feels bad.
Doing truly solo content on P99 is much more fulfilling and the option to group is always available.
+1 for the single box to PoP crowd.
Jimjam
11-30-2021, 02:38 PM
anyone got a link for optimising takp clients on win10 laptop?
Gustoo
11-30-2021, 02:52 PM
I think boxing is fine if you do something to limit it like locking boxed characters to a zone or giving a 3 minute window to box.
I had fun leveling 2 trios on TAKP but I did 99% of it solo with my boxes and that just feels bad.
Doing truly solo content on P99 is much more fulfilling and the option to group is always available.
+1 for the single box to PoP crowd.
Good points.
Most servers probably don't implement it because it requires snooping and enforcement that isn't native to eqemu.
Tunabros
11-30-2021, 03:01 PM
single box pop server will be so empty and dead
but boxing server is ok tbh
its only up to 3 so its not too horrible
i currently play on takp casually, just exploring luclin zones and I have to say a lot of
people actually single box
Croco
11-30-2021, 04:14 PM
single box pop server will be so empty and dead
but boxing server is ok tbh
its only up to 3 so its not too horrible
i currently play on takp casually, just exploring luclin zones and I have to say a lot of
people actually single box
This take reminds me of when everyone was clamoring for classic wow and the head of blizzard was like nah you guys don't want that you only think you do. Then they came out with classic wow and it was hugely successful.
Tewaz
11-30-2021, 04:15 PM
single box pop server will be so empty and dead
but boxing server is ok tbh
its only up to 3 so its not too horrible
i currently play on takp casually, just exploring luclin zones and I have to say a lot of
people actually single box
Another shit take from the fish
starkind
11-30-2021, 05:52 PM
You can solo without boxes... everyone here has a stable of characters, so don't tell me you wouldn't play on a 1 box takp server, cuz u would, and u would love it, and u'd be fighting over twink gear, and u can spam a character to 60 in like a week flat with a fungi tunic and two spikey kunark/velious daggers, even easier when plane of justice is open.
So,
don't tell me u wouldnt.
Cuz I know u would, cuz u do, or u cheat here.
Zwieback
11-30-2021, 06:54 PM
I might even be able to put up with boxing if you could mouse scroll until then hard pass.
agree
single box pop server will be so empty and dead
but boxing server is ok tbh
its only up to 3 so its not too horrible
i currently play on takp casually, just exploring luclin zones and I have to say a lot of
people actually single box
this makes no sense. very few single box. and the vast majority of EMU servers are PoP and/or later servers that have all tried various rulesets, custom content, etc. And none of them have flown far. The one thing common to all of them is - they havent tried 1 box only rules. Obviously the interest in a true box PoP server is rabid. I hear it all the time on discord and players who leave P99 arent leaving for WoW or even New World as much as they leave for... LIVE TLP servers. makes you wonder why Green has ironically damaged P99's playerbase population; P99 used to easily get 2k a night for many years. Now you barely see it rise over 1500. I wouldnt be surprised to see it drop further if a good 1 box PoP server launched.
Tunabros
11-30-2021, 09:04 PM
sure people will play it
but do you think devs would want to start up a whole server for pop
and regulate it as hard as p99?
fuck no
it be a fucking nightmare
a single box pop server will never happen and even if it did it will be a disaster
starkind
11-30-2021, 09:14 PM
Should be a single box GoD server with full titanium client.
That is the only server a guild should be proud of winning.
starkind
11-30-2021, 09:14 PM
Should be a single box GoD server with full titanium client.
That is the only server a guild should be proud of winning.
Everything else is just casual.
Trexller
12-01-2021, 12:40 AM
Everything else is just casual.
Croco
12-01-2021, 12:48 AM
sure people will play it
but do you think devs would want to start up a whole server for pop
and regulate it as hard as p99?
fuck no
it be a fucking nightmare
a single box pop server will never happen and even if it did it will be a disaster
Could you even imagine of p99 was regulated hard? Even the insinuation is a fucking joke. The box owners and Gm's treat the ability to play on p99 as a god given constitutional right. You can metaphorically go up to rog/bog or menden's desk and take a giant steaming shit on it and they'd thank you for it and give you a cheeky slap on the wrist.
Could you imagine how great these servers would be if they actually banned cheaters and/or the unmitigated raging assholes that shit up the server(s)? There's about a dozen toxic pieces of shit, some of whom are also rampant cheaters, who should be shown the door on blue alone that would result in a veritable utopia among the raid guilds on the server.
Jimjam
12-01-2021, 12:52 AM
Having antisocial players helps reduce population and reduces server hosting costs.
/Tinhat
Gustoo
12-01-2021, 01:08 AM
Man all you guys who love post velious make me almost wanna grind that out.
The level 1-59 experience doesn't matter if it is classic if you're gunna wind up at GoD + + + anyways so the live tlp servers seem like the exact recipe for youz guyzez
Oh dang its the automatic boxxing power u get?
Its true NOT being able to beat content on your own is really a core tenet of everquest. Regardless of the (rare) 2 box people that paid for 2 actual subscriptions, the fact is that EQ was 1 character per player role playing game and you weren't supposed to be able to win on your own.
So ya I get it.
Tunabros you took a lot of mad pills lately i dunno man. P99 team could do whatever the hell they want and decide to make a post velious game just for the hell of it.
Every blue player that didn't go to alkabor like immediately definitely missed out on the good times that no-more-upgrades- server had for several years longer than the other servers.
But we're all chasing after the wind here. I'm a classic era guy with preference for vanilla. I'm nostalgic for early days of p99 just like I was nostalgic for early days of live everquest.
Casinos, account trading, then server cross trading, these things were all super fun to me and I enjoyed the way the server felt more like a community on a rogue emulator box and people were still not really sure they could commit their life and well being to an EMU.
Heck, even these messageboards used to actually have more than a handful of people actively participating and creating threads. I think that the discord new media channel should be nuclear bombed and the offline p99 community should come back together.
But I dunno. It's mostly just us here talking to ourselves and hoping that all the stuff we throw into the air combines to create a general sense of what we hope p99 team will do with these very nice and reliable and well run servers.
Tunabros
12-01-2021, 02:03 AM
drugs
karadin
12-01-2021, 10:54 AM
Are the raid rotations GM enforced or is that some sort of player agreement that a new guild wouldn't be bound to?
Tewaz
12-01-2021, 11:40 AM
I don't know if it is GM enforced, but I know everyone at the high end is 100% in on it.
The big secret to adding Luclin to a classic timeline server is the amount of raid content in Luclin is absolutely insane.
Players are very loyal to their guilds on TAKP and when I played I saw a new guild try to climb the ladder to VT and it was rough on them.
There are huge skill/gear checks along the way to the top and you either have the requisite toons and knowledge to do it or you don't. The amount of player investment on that server is incredibly huge with guilds having strategies they don't share outside the guild. It's pretty cool.
Even if you don't make it to VT, you can still progress through ToV/VP into the lower tiers of Luclin and have an absolute blast. Luclin has so many zones that are incredibly difficult to do stuff in with a max level trio.
Naerron
12-01-2021, 11:54 AM
if p99 released a branch of blue and let people copy their chars over for a luclin then pop server, i would bet around 15 mil plat that the server would see numbers around 3-4k daily during pop.
TBH, all raids aside, what i know most of us really would love, is a chance to do AA xp on our 'main' char again. And this would get us more inline with classic live EQ than anything else because it would make people focus on their 'main' again. I was a 5 day a week raider back on live for a solid 4-5 years and rarely did i see people with multiple raid geared toons, and i get the time lock has a ton to do with it, but, i'd argue that the 'no boxing' rule has a similar affect on the server as it would be if most people had a reason to stick to a 'main'
Seems like a golden opportunity for them to release the single character per player server that so many people obviously want, but they don't seem to fully appreciate how much demand is out there. Sooner or later they'll give it a try. When they do I would not be surprised if they end up exceeding P99's population. The EQ-emu community seems to harbor a large proportion of the raid-obsessed crowd (much larger than the original game) that EQ MAC's Planes of Power era catered directly towards. From sitting over here, it looks as if they're sitting on top of the proverbial gold mine and are too unsure of themselves to make use of its full potential.
Danth
Tunabros
12-01-2021, 12:00 PM
not going to happen
keep daydreaming, people
Gustoo
12-01-2021, 12:34 PM
There is obviously a market. No question there.
karadin
12-01-2021, 12:35 PM
I don't know if it is GM enforced, but I know everyone at the high end is 100% in on it.
The big secret to adding Luclin to a classic timeline server is the amount of raid content in Luclin is absolutely insane.
Players are very loyal to their guilds on TAKP and when I played I saw a new guild try to climb the ladder to VT and it was rough on them.
There are huge skill/gear checks along the way to the top and you either have the requisite toons and knowledge to do it or you don't. The amount of player investment on that server is incredibly huge with guilds having strategies they don't share outside the guild. It's pretty cool.
Even if you don't make it to VT, you can still progress through ToV/VP into the lower tiers of Luclin and have an absolute blast. Luclin has so many zones that are incredibly difficult to do stuff in with a max level trio.
Rotations just aren't fun to me, but I can understand why others want them. It's great that there is a separate server for people who want that.
unsunghero
12-01-2021, 01:43 PM
What is Luclin, 500 max AA’s?
Meh, when I was playing live it was max 15,000, maybe even 20k I believe. I know one of my chars had about 11,000 and the other around 10,000
Eventually you’ve gotten all the important stuff and just start taking things that do very little just because there is nothing else to put points in
Grinding AA’s I actually found as one of the most boring things, but this was on Live EQ
starkind
12-01-2021, 07:33 PM
Luclin box with no pok book. Classic stamina would be the bomb.
Gustoo
12-01-2021, 07:54 PM
We don't even have classic stamina here yet so that's gunna be a significant classic change when it comes into play. I remember using wurmslayers in kunark being zero stamina.
Yaulp actually a good spell?
Nuggie
12-01-2021, 09:43 PM
Are the raid rotations GM enforced or is that some sort of player agreement that a new guild wouldn't be bound to?
Planning on going all Hyjal on their rotation, eh? 8-P
Naerron
12-02-2021, 01:24 AM
two different worlds, when AA's came out only insane people ever maxed out before next xpac. untill pop normal xp groups would be like 1AA an hour or so
What is Luclin, 500 max AA’s?
Meh, when I was playing live it was max 15,000, maybe even 20k I believe. I know one of my chars had about 11,000 and the other around 10,000
Eventually you’ve gotten all the important stuff and just start taking things that do very little just because there is nothing else to put points in
Grinding AA’s I actually found as one of the most boring things, but this was on Live EQ
sure people will play it
but do you think devs would want to start up a whole server for pop
and regulate it as hard as p99?
fuck no
it be a fucking nightmare
a single box pop server will never happen and even if it did it will be a disaster
rrriiiiight. youre saying none of these other servers regulate their other rulesets like 3 boxing? just changing the number to 1 is soooo much harder. mmmkay drugs. more meds
starkind
12-02-2021, 08:45 AM
We don't even have classic stamina here yet so that's gunna be a significant classic change when it comes into play. I remember using wurmslayers in kunark being zero stamina.
Yaulp actually a good spell?
I yualp all the time anyway!
Whale biologist
12-02-2021, 09:05 AM
Are the raid rotations GM enforced or is that some sort of player agreement that a new guild wouldn't be bound to?
GM enforced and they ban troublemakers for lolz. ;)
Tread lightly.
Swish
12-02-2021, 11:59 PM
Imagine not being able to lawyer your pixels in EQ.
Trexller
12-03-2021, 04:19 PM
They got Gilbert Gottfried to endorse the TAKP PoP Expansion (real)
https://www.cameo.com/recipient/61a946ff6afefbc5d37c37e6?utm_campaign=video_share_ to_copy
air fryers are an inside joke between some people there
titanshub
12-03-2021, 04:34 PM
They got Gilbert Gottfried to endorse the TAKP PoP Expansion (real)
https://www.cameo.com/recipient/61a946ff6afefbc5d37c37e6?utm_campaign=video_share_ to_copy
air fryers are an inside joke between some people there
Oh man, this is great rofl.
They got Gilbert Gottfried to endorse the TAKP PoP Expansion (real)
https://www.cameo.com/recipient/61a946ff6afefbc5d37c37e6?utm_campaign=video_share_ to_copy
air fryers are an inside joke between some people there
How'd I know yarnz was to blame before I even clicked
shoestring
12-03-2021, 11:54 PM
Looks like Gilbert has another message for TAKP players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ikVHDM0vg
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