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Swish
11-28-2021, 06:02 PM
Well, why not? Most people had blue characters anyway. Thoughts?

starkind
11-28-2021, 06:03 PM
It would be great for healthy competition among the high end raiding scenes of both servers.

eqravenprince
11-28-2021, 06:13 PM
Just about everyone on green does not want pvp.

starkind
11-28-2021, 07:17 PM
Just about everyone on green does not want pvp.

They are constantly fighting with eachother and trying to Fraps and ban eachother tho.

How is that not pvp???

Nachtsuchen
11-28-2021, 07:20 PM
God no. PvP being opt-in is what helps people ease into the idea of possibly making Red characters. I think if such things are too forced, it pushes people away. I know I would drop P99 in a heartbeat if all my characters were forcefully made Red instead of being something I opted into, especially with the Red server ruleset. Being opt-in as, as well as being self-contained and separate from Blue, is what makes opt-in PvP work out on Green.

Tethler
11-28-2021, 10:54 PM
no

Swish
11-29-2021, 12:38 AM
Poll is closer than these responses suggest.

Fammaden
11-29-2021, 08:05 AM
The entire population of red came to vote yes and are still losing.

Jimjam
11-29-2021, 09:57 AM
Just about everyone on green does not want pvp.

Replace Priest of Discord with Priest of Order so people can hand in a book to turn blue.

starkind
11-29-2021, 11:52 AM
Replace Priest of Discord with Priest of Order so people can hand in a book to turn blue.

i think priest of order is on red but not sure if it works i think its disabled

Tunabros
11-29-2021, 12:00 PM
cringing hard right now

Gustoo
11-29-2021, 12:05 PM
I voted no. As funny as it would be to enable pvp on green population suddenly, it isn't the style of p99 to do such a thing.

starkind
11-29-2021, 12:21 PM
i do like jimjams idea of enabling blue on red tho through the priest of order it'd be only fair

Imposter
11-29-2021, 12:27 PM
there should have been an option to just delete red

eqravenprince
11-29-2021, 12:29 PM
there should have been an option to just delete red

Now here is a smart thought.

Gustoo
11-29-2021, 01:49 PM
I'd sacrifice all my hard work on red for a new red. Without hesitation.

I don't need a half dozen firepots bound manastone guised legacied out the ass champ toons sitting around on a 30 pop server. I'd rather be naked level 1 with 500+ other people fighting for cracked staffs.

Jimjam
11-29-2021, 02:41 PM
there should have been an option to just delete red

Do it! Wipe red clean,
Give us brown server (red green).
Untwink PVPeen

Tunabros
11-29-2021, 03:41 PM
delete red and blue

come join the holy grail of p99 servers: green

nilzark
11-29-2021, 06:09 PM
Swish bored again. Troll thread. LoL! How about when you log in; you go to a random server, better stay on your toes, head on a swivel! LoL.

starkind
11-29-2021, 08:50 PM
Pretty surprised at the 50% yes votes.

s71ck
11-30-2021, 03:16 PM
Merge Blue, Red and Green into Purple (teams). No more split population

Old_PVP
11-30-2021, 03:34 PM
Merge Blue, Red and Green into Purple (teams). No more split population

Best idea so far.

Tunabros
11-30-2021, 03:43 PM
cringing hard from posts above me

seek help

Old_PVP
12-01-2021, 02:41 PM
I still like the idea of sending all banned players to live out their days on the Red prison server. We'll take anyone at this point, and build this server to greatness on the backs of the scummy & disreputable.

Fammaden
12-01-2021, 03:05 PM
December Update: EQ PvP still horrible garbage that the vast majority of people despise. This will never change. Even clinically insane shut-ins who farm PvE plat 18 hours a day know its worthless.

Danth
12-01-2021, 04:03 PM
December Update: EQ PvP still horrible garbage that the vast majority of people despise. This will never change. Even clinically insane shut-ins who farm PvE plat 18 hours a day know its worthless.

Well, you and I and most everyone else are well aware that the red proponents on the board also know those things. They don't really expect to reinvigorate red. They're just spiteful and want to destroy blue and green.

Danth

Tunabros
12-01-2021, 04:24 PM
eq pvp has to be the most boring shit I ever experienced

it's just strafing and spamming stun

Gustoo
12-01-2021, 04:48 PM
Well, you and I and most everyone else are well aware that the red proponents on the board also know those things. They don't really expect to reinvigorate red. They're just spiteful and want to destroy blue and green.

Danth

??

What makes you say a ridiculous thing like that?

This thread is not a legitimate weighted proposal or anything. Someone was just dreaming of a buncha blue players being suddenly pvp enabled and having to adapt. It would be super fun.

No one is trying to destroy blue and green servers? If they were they would be training everywhere people gather for safety while shouting "BLUE AND GREEN SUCKS!!!" or something more clever.

EQ pvp takes the EQ game you like with high risks and rewards (actual corpse retrievals that are difficult in deep dungeons) and makes the game even more intense by adding a significant social factor and the possibility of PVP with other players.

What this does is makes player communities more important, player relationships more important, and it makes about 50% more items in EQ actually have value and function.

While it means that disruptive players can be directly disruptive to other players by killing them in cold blood, these players can be ostracized killed themselves by players who want the world to not foster murderous behavior.

I'm not sure where all the vehement negativity comes from. Maybe 1hr play time and got robe stolen in greater faydark back on live rallos zek or something?

The majority of the people that played on red and still want a new red server are playing on blue and green right now biding their time as good citizens albeit in a more boring less dynamic version of EQ. I can barely play non pvp except to think about my leveling path and stuff but its pretty grueling work for me nowdays.

No one wants to destroy the PVE servers, that is a ridiculous and slanderous thing to say about PVP players. PVP players want a new pvp server that isn't 10 years old and 5 years dead. PVP players know that the fun is over and are waiting for the next bout. There just isn't as much reason to be a pixel collector on a pvp server when no one else is playing anymore.

Gustoo
12-01-2021, 04:51 PM
eq pvp has to be the most boring shit I ever experienced

it's just strafing and spamming stun

Sounds like you've never played?

Like playing street fighter is just moving a joystick and hitting buttons?

Like playing a first person shooter is just moving a mouse and clicking around?

EQ pvp is about situational awareness and preparedness and relationships. Instead of wandering around, capturing an efficient plat camp telling everyone to fuck off and pharming it endlessly for platinum while no one can make you move, on red someone might go ahead and kill you while you AFK wait for the next spawn.

I see a lot of emotional damage on the anti-red people I will send my thoughts to bristlebane and hope that he ruffles your feathers and brings you to see the light of life.

Old_PVP
12-01-2021, 05:45 PM
I see a lot of emotional damage on the anti-red people I will send my thoughts to bristlebane and hope that he ruffles your feathers and brings you to see the light of life.


https://i.imgur.com/uMAoAb7.png

Fammaden
12-01-2021, 05:59 PM
??

What makes you say a ridiculous thing like that?

This thread is not a legitimate weighted proposal or anything. Someone was just dreaming of a buncha blue players being suddenly pvp enabled and having to adapt. It would be super fun.

No one is trying to destroy blue and green servers? If they were they would be training everywhere people gather for safety while shouting "BLUE AND GREEN SUCKS!!!" or something more clever.

EQ pvp takes the EQ game you like with high risks and rewards (actual corpse retrievals that are difficult in deep dungeons) and makes the game even more intense by adding a significant social factor and the possibility of PVP with other players.

What this does is makes player communities more important, player relationships more important, and it makes about 50% more items in EQ actually have value and function.

While it means that disruptive players can be directly disruptive to other players by killing them in cold blood, these players can be ostracized killed themselves by players who want the world to not foster murderous behavior.

I'm not sure where all the vehement negativity comes from. Maybe 1hr play time and got robe stolen in greater faydark back on live rallos zek or something?

The majority of the people that played on red and still want a new red server are playing on blue and green right now biding their time as good citizens albeit in a more boring less dynamic version of EQ. I can barely play non pvp except to think about my leveling path and stuff but its pretty grueling work for me nowdays.

No one wants to destroy the PVE servers, that is a ridiculous and slanderous thing to say about PVP players. PVP players want a new pvp server that isn't 10 years old and 5 years dead. PVP players know that the fun is over and are waiting for the next bout. There just isn't as much reason to be a pixel collector on a pvp server when no one else is playing anymore.

Behold, a post no one will read.

Tunabros
12-01-2021, 07:37 PM
EQ pvp is about situational awareness and preparedness and relationships. Instead of wandering around, capturing an efficient plat camp telling everyone to fuck off and pharming it endlessly for platinum while no one can make you move, on red someone might go ahead and kill you while you AFK wait for the next spawn.

copium

ReoDobbs
12-07-2021, 12:50 PM
Lol, EQ PvP. No thanks

sox7d
01-07-2022, 10:03 PM
all christian players xfer to blue during reset, atheists go to red

kgallowaypa
01-07-2022, 10:09 PM
I can’t believe people don’t want pvp what are you so afraid of lmfao

starkind
01-07-2022, 11:35 PM
I wanted to vote. Although it said I already did.

Voted yes. I'm sure.

Swish
01-11-2022, 06:35 PM
Over 50% approval rating, something for the devs to consider.

Keza
01-11-2022, 08:15 PM
I voted yes as a lul because blue or red doesn't really matter to me, but then I thought about it and blue seems to be directly contradictory to green's interests, whereas Red isn't. Why have Nostalgia Farmers vs Pixel Hoarders? Let it all burn in a blaze of crimson glory. People get to enjoy some PvP, the pixels are deleted and there's nothing for hoarders to be attached to. A new cycle begins.

Red will always be unwelcome for most since PvP isn't remotely balanced, but a brief stint of PvP at the end of each cycle would be quite the meme. It'd die off quick and people would recharge by the time it came around again. The only losers would be pixel hoarders, but they already are so who cares?

Shac
01-11-2022, 08:29 PM
red needs anti-pks

Gustoo
01-11-2022, 09:55 PM
Red needs anti PKs it would be the best server ever if all the BIS green people were all a sudden red and the red PVP people who’ve been uncontested for three years got whipped?

Old_PVP
01-12-2022, 01:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/umSPU03.gif

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/P99redlogo.png

https://i.imgur.com/d3ja9L5.gif


Pick up your bluebie skirts, and come live a little.

Larken
01-12-2022, 10:21 AM
Red needs anti PKs it would be the best server ever if all the BIS green people were all a sudden red and the red PVP people who’ve been uncontested for three years got whipped?

This.

Having a healty population with anti-PK's is what it's all about.

Batty
01-14-2022, 02:54 PM
Poll is closer than these responses suggest.

Pretty sure a lot of people are joking when they mark yes.

DeathsSilkyMist
01-14-2022, 02:57 PM
Pretty sure a lot of people are joking when they mark yes.

Its all 50 people from red trying so hard to get this merge:)

Sear
01-14-2022, 07:22 PM
Over 50% approval rating, something for the devs to consider.

I'm 99.9% sure they are not going to consider this, amigo.

There is no scenario where I can see Rogean deciding to flip the pvp switch on for his most-populated pve server.

But if for some reason he goes on a massive cocaine binge and makes the impulse decision to do it, I'd recommend hardcoding teams. It's much more forgiving for pve players than FFA when regions of the world are relatively safe rather than anyone being able to attack you anywhere.

As it is, R99 players looking for fresh pvp already have VZTZ as an alternative.

Old_PVP
01-15-2022, 09:36 PM
But if for some reason he goes on a massive cocaine binge and makes the impulse decision to do it.


Someone hook him up.

https://i.imgur.com/3aowyDS.jpg

derpcake2
01-16-2022, 06:58 AM
??

What makes you say a ridiculous thing like that?

This thread is not a legitimate weighted proposal or anything. Someone was just dreaming of a buncha blue players being suddenly pvp enabled and having to adapt. It would be super fun.

No one is trying to destroy blue and green servers? If they were they would be training everywhere people gather for safety while shouting "BLUE AND GREEN SUCKS!!!" or something more clever.

EQ pvp takes the EQ game you like with high risks and rewards (actual corpse retrievals that are difficult in deep dungeons) and makes the game even more intense by adding a significant social factor and the possibility of PVP with other players.

What this does is makes player communities more important, player relationships more important, and it makes about 50% more items in EQ actually have value and function.

While it means that disruptive players can be directly disruptive to other players by killing them in cold blood, these players can be ostracized killed themselves by players who want the world to not foster murderous behavior.

I'm not sure where all the vehement negativity comes from. Maybe 1hr play time and got robe stolen in greater faydark back on live rallos zek or something?

The majority of the people that played on red and still want a new red server are playing on blue and green right now biding their time as good citizens albeit in a more boring less dynamic version of EQ. I can barely play non pvp except to think about my leveling path and stuff but its pretty grueling work for me nowdays.

No one wants to destroy the PVE servers, that is a ridiculous and slanderous thing to say about PVP players. PVP players want a new pvp server that isn't 10 years old and 5 years dead. PVP players know that the fun is over and are waiting for the next bout. There just isn't as much reason to be a pixel collector on a pvp server when no one else is playing anymore.

Don't get trolled by shitposters.

Xer0
01-16-2022, 11:17 PM
sure, wipe red and merge it with green. can't throw people that have had hundreds of times XP bonus and free and clear loot/cash camps for years with people that have been playing the game the proper way.

PatChapp
01-16-2022, 11:43 PM
sure, wipe red and merge it with green. can't throw people that have had hundreds of times XP bonus and free and clear loot/cash camps for years with people that have been playing the game the proper way.

And what makes your way the proper way

Jimjam
01-17-2022, 04:09 AM
Someone hook him up.

https://i.imgur.com/3aowyDS.jpg

That is a lot of fairy dust. Definitely at least one stack .

Xer0
01-23-2022, 09:58 PM
And what makes your way the proper way

proper in terms of playing EQ the way it was intended to be played.

Also proper becuase it was my idea.

/thread

Tunabros
01-24-2022, 12:07 PM
everquest pvp was never good

it was only fun with friends

but again, people on red are like super lonely

Bigcountry23
01-24-2022, 02:16 PM
They are constantly fighting with eachother and trying to Fraps and ban eachother tho.

How is that not pvp???

Green has one of the best high end raiding environments I have ever seen. I've seen all of the guilds doing co-op raids and with the exception of a few "bad apple" players, it is a great example of competition and co-operation without outright conflict.

Tunabros
01-24-2022, 02:29 PM
join green today

Midfrost
01-25-2022, 07:44 AM
This would be absolutely amazing! <3

eqravenprince
01-25-2022, 09:45 AM
If they merge green with red

Population counts would change to something like this
Red 50 to 51
Blue 800 to 1600

cd288
01-25-2022, 12:42 PM
If they merge green with red

Population counts would change to something like this
Red 50 to 51
Blue 800 to 1600

So accurate lol

Gustoo
01-25-2022, 01:39 PM
Merge green with red
Delete blue

Totally rational + likely.

Tunabros
01-25-2022, 02:19 PM
If they merge green with red

Population counts would change to something like this
Red 50 to 51
Blue 800 to 1600

Tunabros
01-25-2022, 02:20 PM
Merge green with red
Delete blue

Totally rational + likely.

no one cares about your shitty red server with its peak 50 population

Midfrost
01-25-2022, 03:29 PM
If they merge green with red

Population counts would change to something like this
Red 50 to 51
Blue 800 to 1600

No, lol... I tried blue once, it wasn't even EverQuest(and I played 99-04; I remember it fondly). Shards of Dalaya was a much better experience compared to blue, even though that's a different game in and of itself.

Red would probably have a few hundred players for a month or so, until the people that realize that they can only handle NPC's grow tired of getting owned by the people that have specialized in handling other people.

There's a... let's call it a "presence of mind" and a certain depth of psychological knowledge required to play on discord-servers like RZ, and later TZ. Or in this case "Red".

Lorethi
02-07-2022, 10:13 PM
Why not allow people to freely transfer to the server of their choosing, transferring them automatically to blue if no choice is made by a set deadline?

I'd assume it's just a matter of moving your account data from one database to another, which can be fully scripted.

DeliciousHalflings
02-07-2022, 10:43 PM
How does the issue of duplicate names work with the server merge?

nilzark
04-06-2022, 01:37 PM
They add an X to the end of the name. Also, that idea about sending banned players to Red like Australia seems like a legit idea. Send them there naked.

MrSparkle001
04-06-2022, 02:22 PM
No, lol... I tried blue once, it wasn't even EverQuest(and I played 99-04; I remember it fondly). Shards of Dalaya was a much better experience compared to blue, even though that's a different game in and of itself.


What? Why do you say Blue isn't even Everquest?

Actually now with Green out, what exactly is Blue? I'm confused lol. It used to be Blue for classis PvE, Red for classic PvP. What's Green doing in the mix?

Jimjam
04-06-2022, 02:32 PM
What? Why do you say Blue isn't even Everquest?

Actually now with Green out, what exactly is Blue? I'm confused lol. It used to be Blue for classis PvE, Red for classic PvP. What's Green doing in the mix?

blue had a stretched out timeline, whereas green's timeline is closer to 1:1 for the original patch/xpac time line.

Gustoo
04-06-2022, 02:35 PM
Now that they are both at velious, they are essentially the same except Blue is old and Green is much newer.

And this thread and many others are people eagerly awaiting a new timeline progression PVP server from the excellent though quite busy project 1999 team.

starkind
04-06-2022, 03:31 PM
91 for :)

MrSparkle001
04-06-2022, 03:34 PM
Now that they are both at velious, they are essentially the same except Blue is old and Green is much newer.

And this thread and many others are people eagerly awaiting a new timeline progression PVP server from the excellent though quite busy project 1999 team.

Wouldn't mind a Sullon Zek remake. Would be just as dead after a while though.

Bardp1999
04-06-2022, 03:47 PM
Re-ban OP. His forum account was permabanned only to be revived due to his pandering to the staff on top of being the forum's most numerous poster. BAN HAMMER HIM, SMITE HIS BONES