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Gugg
12-15-2021, 12:34 AM
Back in the day players used to hunt and then go to the tunnel to buy/sell and while waiting around they would duel and chat in /ooc. I don't see any of that in this tunnel. I see bots that don't move for days with ripoff prices. It's really no different than the bazaar on live. Nowadays SIM cards and scripts are widely available but they weren't back in 1999.

I noticed it right away that something was missing and it's real players doing real things.

Trexller
12-15-2021, 12:49 AM
yeah p99 EC tunnel has always been weird

the Bazaar is an infinitely better trading market system

what schmuck really has the time to sit all day pressing the same key trying to sell shit nobody wants?

the type of schmuck who will reply, saying, "but muh interactions with players because i dont have friends IRL"

Swish
12-15-2021, 01:16 AM
yeah p99 EC tunnel has always been weird

the Bazaar is an infinitely better trading market system

what schmuck really has the time to sit all day pressing the same key trying to sell shit nobody wants?

the type of schmuck who will reply, saying, "but muh interactions with players because i dont have friends IRL"

Just came by to undercut Trexller by 1pp

Bardp1999
12-15-2021, 01:33 AM
The servers are close to 13 years old, the nostalgia has run its course for most of us, and the devs have no interest in making an actual fun custom version of EQ. P99 has been in death throes for a while (since we reached the end of the timeline). It only survived this long because there was always an expansion or "new" patch looming, but we are a couple of years deep into dead content now.

Best to move on friend.

Solist
12-15-2021, 02:08 AM
The servers are close to 13 years old, the nostalgia has run its course for most of us, and the devs have no interest in making an actual fun custom version of EQ. P99 has been in death throes for a while (since we reached the end of the timeline). It only survived this long because there was always an expansion or "new" patch looming, but we are a couple of years deep into dead content now.

Best to move on friend.

What? What we want is an actual classic server. Blue was...not. Green was...not and in many ways even more ridiculius than blue at launch.

There can be very little nostaliga had without a dev that cares to make some shit properly classic, fix all the missing classic mechanics, resists, aggro, npc difficulty.

Swish
12-15-2021, 05:33 AM
People claim to want classic but then throw their toys out of the pram when something classic gets put in or additional UI things get removed.

Cecily
12-15-2021, 08:23 AM
Americans won't understand pram. I think what you mean is a napswaddler.

starkind
12-15-2021, 09:05 AM
Ppl are just actual programmable bots these days. New games are highly designed to take advantage of this.

You're just seeing all of this conditioning re-express itself online.

I danced around blues EC tunnel. Waving. Emoting. Ducking. Saying hi. Buffing slow moving PCs with berserker strength. And I felt like I was at Walmart. Not in EQ.

Ppl are mad.
Ppl are dead. Inside.
They're fixated on pixels.
The adventure and playfulness has gone out of their hearts.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with the game itself.

realsubtle
12-15-2021, 10:47 AM
Idk its fine. Ive seen plenty of silly antics go on in EC. Not sure what the expectation is here. Are people simply greedy for antics???

wuanahto
12-15-2021, 11:02 AM
I go through my backlog of games whenever EC tunneling
Plus since you can have one character logged on per server I have no doubt in my mind people are trying to sell something on blue to nobody meanwhile being around people on green

Knowledge
12-15-2021, 11:14 AM
EC tunnel on green is pathetic. You get the guild handmedown items they want too much for, combined with 800 shit items from classic that get spammed all the time, that nobody wants. Good luck finding anything good in Green EC unless you overpay 25%+

unsunghero
12-15-2021, 11:40 AM
I would prefer the chat window just have auctions and not pointless banal /ooc banter

unsunghero
12-15-2021, 11:41 AM
EC tunnel on green is pathetic. You get the guild handmedown items they want too much for, combined with 800 shit items from classic that get spammed all the time, that nobody wants. Good luck finding anything good in Green EC unless you overpay 25%+

Staff of shielding on green - 24,000pp

Staff of shielding on blue - 2k

Yep, saw this the other day

Mblake1981
12-15-2021, 11:56 AM
..while waiting around they would duel and chat in /ooc. I don't see any of that in this tunnel.

Smart phone texting
Social media
Discord/ Chat programs
Netflix
Youtube

*windowed client, multiple monitors

https://bhagpuss.blogspot.com/2019/04/there-is-no-mystery-left-everquest.html

One of the reasons frequently cited for the decline of the genre is the contemperaneous rise of social media. It's become a truism to assert that turn-of-the-century MMORPGs were the social media of their day. For many hundreds of thousands - millions - of people, playing an online game provided their first and for a while their only experience of talking in real time to friends and strangers around the world.

On the PC I’m constantly distracting myself with FOMO around Twitter or Discord. I run with 2 monitors and always have social media up on monitor two and constantly scan it. Because of this I just don’t “sink in” to a game quite as much; my attention is always divided."

Gugg
12-15-2021, 12:58 PM
I don't recall the tunnel being full of lowbies selling high level stuff with names like 'megadeals' and 'eqmart'.

The other day a bot account was selling a spell and quoted me 2kpp.

Then a high level player zoned in and auctioned the same spell and he quoted me 300pp and I knocked him down to 200pp. He said I got a good deal because he paid 300pp for his but things devalue and I felt we both got a fair deal.

This bot guy who tried to rip me is spaming WTB mana stone epic MQ's, all sorts. He must be loaded from ripping off newbs.

You live and learn.

adruidarkly
12-15-2021, 01:02 PM
If people really want a classic experience they also have to play the game in a classic way which we all know wont happen

so you get your min max poopsockin clickiesquest where items that were classic but being used unclassicly are now unclassic. gg

starkind
12-15-2021, 01:12 PM
if /ooc or /auc is distressing u u can disable either btw in Options:Show/hide like right nexto the badword filter practically so no reason to whine about that

i agree with utube and discord and other things making ec tunnel less attractive

and @ Real Sublte

I'm super greedy for attention and antics we need like 350 gnomes running randomly in circles at all times in the tunnel in fact u should get DT'd if your tunnel mule is not a gnome, thanks.

when i'm afk at blue tunnel it will be afk msg: PST green.Zurmabikiel for wtb

or whatever character flavor of the week it is!

also 24,000 for a stave or w/e is rediculous you would never sell it to your friend/guildy for that much, thats just straight up greed, why is greens economy so plat heavy?

mattydef
12-15-2021, 01:21 PM
My friends and I are always dueling in the tunnel whenever we get a chance but nobody ever wants to outside of our little group, i've tried many times with random people. One of my favorite memories were all the epic fights between the warriors and monks back in the day.

Scalem
12-15-2021, 01:44 PM
Staff of shielding on green - 24,000pp

Staff of shielding on blue - 2k

Yep, saw this the other day

Blue has chardok revamp people farm chardok there, Green doesn't no one goes to Chardok unless doing epic quests

unsunghero
12-15-2021, 02:22 PM
if /ooc or /auc is distressing u u can disable either btw in Options:Show/hide like right nexto the badword filter practically so no reason to whine about that


Ah I didn’t realize you could turn /ooc off

I don’t mind /ooc normally in any other zone. I just wouldn’t want to have to sift through political_argument#1057 to find the auction I’m looking for

And I personally hate selling stuff too. So anytime I’m in EC selling my cheap stuff I always go below half the wiki price. If I don’t get multiple tells immediately I feel like I’ve done something wrong

Bardp1999
12-15-2021, 05:38 PM
Staff of shielding on green - 24,000pp

Staff of shielding on blue - 2k

Yep, saw this the other day

years of Chardok AoE and the revamp, 24k is closer to what the item should be worth

Jimjam
12-15-2021, 05:39 PM
Ah I didn’t realize you could turn /ooc off

I don’t mind /ooc normally in any other zone. I just wouldn’t want to have to sift through political_argument#1057 to find the auction I’m looking for

And I personally hate selling stuff too. So anytime I’m in EC selling my cheap stuff I always go below half the wiki price. If I don’t get multiple tells immediately I feel like I’ve done something wrong

I put auction into it's own window and minimise it.