I want to kill a Dragon....

[Topgunben]

But i dont want to batphone.

Any chane the server gods would be willing to change the respawn time on Vox and Nag to 7 days +/- 1 hour? And Trak to 3 days +/- 1 hour?

At least give me a shot to plan on being there. I cant block out 16 hours for elf quest. No one in his right mind should have to do that.

If the server gods do not listen, then the hell with them.

[azxten]

The only dragon you could slay is...

[Tunabros]

lol go to TLP

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/bg6MM1k.png

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Dragons often spawn during normal play hours. Just watch the spawn windows until they align with your play schedule. Its not too difficult.

[Tunabros]

from the look of OP's signature, he doesn't even have a max level toon yet

and yet he's demanding to kill dragons

lol

[cd288]

OP also thinks the election was stolen. Low IQ all around

[Trexller]

But i dont want to batphone.

Any chane the server gods would be willing to change the respawn time on Vox and Nag to 7 days +/- 1 hour? And Trak to 3 days +/- 1 hour?

At least give me a shot to plan on being there. I cant block out 16 hours for elf quest. No one in his right mind should have to do that.

If the server gods do not listen, then the hell with them.

TAKP mob rotations are serverwide agreements, any bosses that are also quest mobs are left standing for a time so people can complete quests.

Now that PoP has launched, many many many dragons will be available for slaying.

[Videri]

But i dont want to batphone.

Any chane the server gods would be willing to change the respawn time on Vox and Nag to 7 days +/- 1 hour? And Trak to 3 days +/- 1 hour?

At least give me a shot to plan on being there. I cant block out 16 hours for elf quest. No one in his right mind should have to do that.

Hear, hear. Well put. It would be a great improvement to these servers and would increase the net joy Project1999 brings.

Unfortunately, it is not to be. Galach said he tried talking to Rogean/Nilbog about reducing variance and they refused to budge.
https://i.imgur.com/rQWH3Jr.png

[Tunabros]

they rooted dragons already (not classic) might as well make dragons spawn faster

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/s85XI7u.png

[Arvan]

Dragons often spawn during normal play hours. Just watch the spawn windows until they align with your play schedule. Its not too difficult.

Most “normal” people have a spouse and kids and maybe play 2-4 hours after work. The chances of a specific 16 hour variance mob spawning in that sweet spot is pretty low. So pretty terrible advice really.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Most “normal” people have a spouse and kids and maybe play 2-4 hours after work. The chances of a specific 16 hour variance mob spawning in that sweet spot is pretty low. So pretty terrible advice really.

It isn't bad advise at all. Plenty of raid mobs have windows that end between after work hours (6pm-9pm) at certain points of the year. If your guild keeps track of respawn timers you just need to spend 5 seconds a day looking at the timers to see if any mobs you are interested in fit your schedule. Does this mean you get to kill Dragons every week? No, but if you have a wife and kids, you don't have time to do that anyway, right?:)

[Pint]

Have you tried jerking off? You can slay that dragon at will with no batphones iirc

[starkind]

@OP just log in and swing at one of the dragons once they are engaged by one of the botsquads, u can't accidently KS 50 bots so ur gtg

[Topgunben]

from the look of OP's signature, he doesn't even have a max level toon yet

and yet he's demanding to kill dragons

lol

Still a virgin Tuna?

[Topgunben]

It isn't bad advise at all. Plenty of raid mobs have windows that end between after work hours (6pm-9pm) at certain points of the year. If your guild keeps track of respawn timers you just need to spend 5 seconds a day looking at the timers to see if any mobs you are interested in fit your schedule. Does this mean you get to kill Dragons every week? No, but if you have a wife and kids, you don't have time to do that anyway, right?:)

A 16 hour window is horrible. No one that has a real life is able to deal with that.

This is EQ lost nearly all its casual base when other MMOs came out. I sincerely think that its because of these draconian respawn mechanics among other things.

Again most people arent going to stare through a wall for 16 hours or cancel a weekend of real life events just for the chance to slay a dragon. You can tell me to get good, but if thats what being good takes, I prefer to be shitty.

[Chortles Snortles]

double post mad (lol)

[Tunabros]

Still a virgin Tuna?

you know you triggered someone when they start insulting you instead of coming up

with an actual argument

reeeeeeeee

[Thrombosis]

I've never killed Vox or Naggy, and this thread is telling me I probably never will :( . Back in the day on AB I'd see /ooc's in EC saying one of the pair was up and anyone at the right level with resist gear was invited to join an open raid with /random loot. All the guilds were too busy with the top level raiding to bother with Vox/Naggy by then. I guess that doesn't happen on P99. Of course back then I was stupidly too busy getting to max level so I could join a raiding guild, by the time I got there Velious was old content so I think the only dragon I've helped kill in my EQ career has been Dozekar the Cursed which we did once for old times sake.

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/NV3WGSL.gif

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Let me clarify what I meant in my two previous posts. I was making assumptions of prior knowledge, and I shouldn't have.

Here is a quick guide to casual raiding, where you do NOT need to wait 16 hours in a row, OR worry about batphones.

1. Join a guild that actively raids and keeps track of timers. If you are in a very casual guild that does neither, it honestly won't matter what the raid windows look like, because you guild doesn't really raid.

2. Spend 1 minute a day looking at the timers to determine if a mob you want to kill is in window when you get home from work.

3. If there is a mob in window during your play hours, go to work and come back home per usual. Check the timers again when you are ready to login. If the mob's timer hasn't finished yet, you are probably in luck!

4. Log in and ask the guild if the mob has spawned yet. If it hasn't, sock the mob for howerver long you can, lets say 3 hours from 6pm to 9pm.

5. On a 16 hour window, even a 3 hour sock gives you a 20% chance of seeing the mob spawn while you are online. If you can do these steps for 5 weeks in a row, statistically speaking you should be around for at least one of the spawns.

6. This strategy only needs you to spend 3 hours a week during a time of year where the spawn windoe aligns with your schedule. This is very casual, and should be doable by most players.

I have seen mobs spawn at all points in the window, including 2 minutes from closing. You will get a spawn eventually if you follow the advise above, you just need to be patient.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Let me clarify what I meant in my two previous posts. I was making assumptions of prior knowledge, and I shouldn't have.

Here is a quick guide to casual raiding, where you do NOT need to wait 16 hours in a row, OR worry about batphones.

1. Join a guild that actively raids and keeps track of timers. If you are in a very casual guild that does neither, it honestly won't matter what the raid windows look like, because you guild doesn't really raid.

2. Spend 1 minute a day looking at the timers to determine if a mob you want to kill is in window when you get home from work.

3. If there is a mob in window during your play hours, go to work and come back home per usual. Check the timers again when you are ready to login. If the mob's timer hasn't finished yet, you are probably in luck!

4. Log in and ask the guild if the mob has spawned yet. If it hasn't, sock the mob for howerver long you can, lets say 3 hours from 6pm to 9pm.

5. On a 16 hour window, even a 3 hour sock gives you a 20% chance of seeing the mob spawn while you are online. If you can do these steps for 5 weeks in a row, statistically speaking you should be around for at least one of the spawns.

6. This strategy only needs you to spend 3 hours a week during a time of year where the spawn window aligns with your schedule. This is very casual, and should be doable by most players.

I have seen mobs spawn at all points in the window, including 2 minutes from closing. You will get a spawn eventually if you follow the advise above, you just need to be patient.

[unsunghero]

It isn't bad advise at all. Plenty of raid mobs have windows that end between after work hours (6pm-9pm) at certain points of the year. If your guild keeps track of respawn timers you just need to spend 5 seconds a day looking at the timers to see if any mobs you are interested in fit your schedule. Does this mean you get to kill Dragons every week? No, but if you have a wife and kids, you don't have time to do that anyway, right?:)

Works in theory, but you’ll be racing the uber guilds who have a raid of level 51 chars planted at that dragon and also have access to the respawn timer

Until they lose interest, you probably aren’t getting any dragons

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Damn, forgot Rants and Flames doesnt have an edit button lol. Disregard the double post.

[kgallowaypa]

Honestly you dont need to see every single thing on p99 end game to feel accomplished. Just join a casual guild like kittens and you can see most of the end game content anyhow if you just want to kill dragons. Playing since 2015 and I have never set foot into VP or ST...do I lose sleep over it? naw, it would be cool to see those zones...but then there is youtube right?

[AenorVZ]

OP also thinks the election was stolen. Low IQ all around

Bob Woodward has a memo Giuliani sent to Lindsey Graham claiming 42,000 people voted twice in Nevada. Most people who are prosecuted for voting twice in a single election own property in multiple states. You can probably count the number of convictions on your fingers and toes because it's incredibly easy to investigate when you HAVE THE PERSONS HOME ADDRESS. Only a vanishingly few people are stupid enough to vote twice. If 42,000 people did it in a single election it would be both one of the largest criminal investigations in history and one of the easiest.

[Toxigen]

Just respond to batphones only if you're around and wanting to play.

Pretty simple.

[Topgunben]

Let me clarify what I meant in my two previous posts. I was making assumptions of prior knowledge, and I shouldn't have.

Here is a quick guide to casual raiding, where you do NOT need to wait 16 hours in a row, OR worry about batphones.

1. Join a guild that actively raids and keeps track of timers. If you are in a very casual guild that does neither, it honestly won't matter what the raid windows look like, because you guild doesn't really raid.

2. Spend 1 minute a day looking at the timers to determine if a mob you want to kill is in window when you get home from work.

3. If there is a mob in window during your play hours, go to work and come back home per usual. Check the timers again when you are ready to login. If the mob's timer hasn't finished yet, you are probably in luck!

4. Log in and ask the guild if the mob has spawned yet. If it hasn't, sock the mob for howerver long you can, lets say 3 hours from 6pm to 9pm.

5. On a 16 hour window, even a 3 hour sock gives you a 20% chance of seeing the mob spawn while you are online. If you can do these steps for 5 weeks in a row, statistically speaking you should be around for at least one of the spawns.

6. This strategy only needs you to spend 3 hours a week during a time of year where the spawn windoe aligns with your schedule. This is very casual, and should be doable by most players.

I have seen mobs spawn at all points in the window, including 2 minutes from closing. You will get a spawn eventually if you follow the advise above, you just need to be patient.


I get the essence of what you are saying, but your math is off and thereby your point is moot. If a person dedicates 3 hours every spawn, thats a 13/16 chance of failure to the 5th power (5 spawns/weeks)

So there is a ~65% chance that I will be on during a spawn given 5 attempts. Thats not horribly bad, but you also have to consider that my guild has to be ready and able to down said Dragon. Given the competition, that probably reduces my chance to a 4th of its original.

So we are talking about a 65%/4 = ~16% chance of winning said dragon over 5 weeks. Thats pretty shitty odds given the time commitment.

What is P99 doing to improve the game for casual players? It seems like all that has been done is make the raiding scene more difficult, therefore increasing the barrier of entry for the typical casual. You mean to tell me they are willing to root dragons because that goes against how the game was originally meant to played, but they are unwilling to reduce the spawn time on dragons even though there are 30X the amount of high level players on the server?

[Grumph]

Star with +4 neck dragons.

And keep at it till your killing +5 neck and even +6 neck dragons.

You'll kill whatever quantity of dragons that is possible. Or feasible.

[Tunabros]

when the imposter is sus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE9oF2MPhD0&ab_channel=Dodoparipope

[jadier]

Try Skyrim

[Tethler]

Western Wastes always has tons of dragons up. Quite a few are small groupable.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I get the essence of what you are saying, but your math is off and thereby your point is moot. If a person dedicates 3 hours every spawn, thats a 13/16 chance of failure to the 5th power (5 spawns/weeks)

So there is a ~65% chance that I will be on during a spawn given 5 attempts. Thats not horribly bad, but you also have to consider that my guild has to be ready and able to down said Dragon. Given the competition, that probably reduces my chance to a 4th of its original.

So we are talking about a 65%/4 = ~16% chance of winning said dragon over 5 weeks. Thats pretty shitty odds given the time commitment.

What is P99 doing to improve the game for casual players? It seems like all that has been done is make the raiding scene more difficult, therefore increasing the barrier of entry for the typical casual. You mean to tell me they are willing to root dragons because that goes against how the game was originally meant to played, but they are unwilling to reduce the spawn time on dragons even though there are 30X the amount of high level players on the server?

My math is not off. It is a 20% chance per week. 3/15 (using 15 for easy rounding) is 20%. If you want to be nit picky, it is 18.75% using 3/16.

Now obviously rolling a 5 sided die 5 times does not guarantee you get the number you want, but the average says it does. You may need to roll 10 times, you may need to roll 1 time, that all depends on luck.

This game does NOT have instancing, which means casual players do have to work harder. There isn't any way around that, and the Developers will not change their mind on this as far as I know.

I am just giving you the best advise I can given how the server works.

As I said before, even if the Developers make the dragons spawn more often (let's say they took your suggestion verbatim), you will still not get any dragon kills if your guild sucks at raiding. Not trying to be mean, but if you want to be casual AND get raid targets, you need to try and join a better guild. If you are unwilling to do that, you will probably not get what you want.

[greenspectre]

Western Wastes always has tons of dragons up. Quite a few are small groupable.

This is true. Shamans can solo a fair amount of them, even. If your goal is simply to kill *A* dragon, that's your best bet. If you mean raid dragons, I'd defer to DSM's advice. I'm a member of Kingdom and I work nights and have a 4-year-old so needless to say my schedule is all over the place. I just raid when I feel like, and don't when I don't or can't. I get DKP slower than my fellow guildies, but I still have killed several dragons and acquired lots of mid-tier raiding gear.

Simply put, give it an honest shot before you say it's impossible.

[AenorVZ]

Try Skyrim

Consider Skyrim.

[Paleepscherone]

will work for casual guilds as much as weekend quakes do (not much)

[unsunghero]

Don’t give up, Topgunben. If I can do it then you can do it cause I’m casual as it gets and kinda suck at EQ

The Devs are gone, the servers will stay split for years…and as interest dwindles and server pops go down, the casuals will rise!

[Shamanistic]

P99 raiding is a disaster that doesn't mimic real EQ well. The OP is right that lowering the respawn times would help make the game more inviting to casuals, grow the community, and make the game more fun IMO without drastically changing the spirit of P99.

At the same time it would lower the sock industry revenue and we all know they support the evil orange man (no one I have spoken to, that isn't on food stamps, considers the election irregularities to not have possibly swung the election) so that's good too.

The dragons will still be scarce until they are not scarce, just as it is now. The difference would be more pixels dying resulting in more happy gamers in a P99 fashion.

[jadier]

no one I have spoken to, that isn't on food stamps, considers the election irregularities to not have possibly swung the election.

I believe you’re telling the truth here, since I doubt very many people tolerate speaking with you.

[MaCtastic]

Dragons often spawn during normal play hours. Just watch the spawn windows until they align with your play schedule. Its not too difficult.

With a 16 hour window it'll likely spawn when you are awake throughout the day. All you have to do is be online the entire time and you'll have a chance.

[Jimjam]

Fay Drake Hatchlings are pretty uncontested dragon spawns.

Hope this helps.

[myrddraal]

With a 16 hour window it'll likely spawn when you are awake throughout the day. All you have to do is be online the entire time and you'll have a chance.

Got a steady job? Quit that
Got a girlfriend? Sorry Jennifer Anniston, you're married to the game now
Any other hobbies or interest? Lol no you dont. Not if you're raiding on p99

[Jibartik]

God forbid we cant have everything given to us.

[myrddraal]

God forbid we cant have everything given to us.

the server is free, so all of it is given to you.

[Tunabros]

it's really not that hard to kill dragons

if you dont have a lot of time, just wait for the batphone and log on

sure you wont get as much DKP as someone who tracks, gets FTE, or actually be useful

but hey, you can see a dragon

anyone can raid

you guys are just being lazy

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Most modern MMOs (and video games for that matter) cater to people who don't have a lot of time. Why try and change one of the few remaining games that actually ask the player to try a little bit? P99 doesnt need instancing, rotations, or 8 hour spawns on every raid mob.

[Fammaden]

it's really not that hard to kill dragons

if you dont have a lot of time, just wait for the batphone and log on

sure you wont get as much DKP as someone who tracks, gets FTE, or actually be useful

but hey, you can see a dragon

anyone can raid

you guys are just being lazy

There's this giant misconception that casual players can't join the serious raid guilds, but its the total opposite. As a casual player you're far better off in those guilds, but like tuna says you just will always kinda be a low dkp warmbody.

You'll still get to raid and see content but you won't easily get the top loot. The biggest hurdle for most people is just finishing the grind to 60.

Lots of the people who make this complaint aren't even that casual, they play plenty of hours but just have a regular job that they can't work from home and log in to play.

If by casual they mean like a few hours a week or something, then yeah Everquest by its very design isn't conducive to doing the raid content for you.

[Gustoo]

You can kill dragons, but to be a level 60 dragon killer you had to be insane on live, and you have to be insane here too.

red server allows better access to dragon killing and has faster EXP so I high recommend playing red for getting PVE pixels as counter intuitive as that seems.

[Ripqozko]

You can kill dragons, but to be a level 60 dragon killer you had to be insane on live, and you have to be insane here too.

red server allows better access to dragon killing and has faster EXP so I high recommend playing red for getting PVE pixels as counter intuitive as that seems.

No one plays red, hope that helps.

[strongNpretty]

No one plays red, hope that helps.

Stop talking.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

With a 16 hour window it'll likely spawn when you are awake throughout the day. All you have to do is be online the entire time and you'll have a chance.

You should read my other posts in this thread, instead of just skimming the first page:) You certainly do not need to do anywhere near a 16 hour sock on any mob. I have killed plenty of Dragons without any socking. You log in, and 30 minutes or an hour later it spawns. If you can play for 2 or 3 hours on a specific day you have a decent shot at seeing the mob spawn. If your guild is good about keeping timers you can check if the mob is up before you log in too. Literally everything is done for you by other people, I am not sure what more you could want.

The only two times I have done a full 16 hour sock was when I was turning in my Gauntlets of Dragon Slaying and Boots of Silent Striding. In both cases Tormax and Gozzrem spawned about 5 minutes before the window closed hehe, so I was there for the full 16 hours. The game certainly hated me then.

[Danth]

A player can fight dragons on P1999 any time he likes. If a player wants a specific dragon he wants it for the loot it drops, not for the encounter itself. P1999 dragons all fight in more or less the same general manner and all that differs between them are the sizes of the numbers and maybe their specific gimmicks. Dragon A might only do AE damage, dragon B might add in a gravity flux, and dragon C might silence while dragon D has an AE damage-over-time in addition to its direct damage. Dragon E might fear. Whoopee.....that's six of one, half dozen of the other, and once you've done a few of them you've effectively seen them all.

Fighting temple veeshan dragons with 80+ people was dramatically easier for me than duo'ing west wastes dragons with the wife. Bigger numbers on the named are more than canceled out by proportionally even larger player numbers.

Just say "no" to staring at walls. You don't need those pixels to enjoy the game.

[Fammaden]

You should read my other posts in this thread, instead of just skimming the first page:) You certainly do not need to do anywhere near a 16 hour sock on any mob. I have killed plenty of Dragons without any socking. You log in, and 30 minutes or an hour later it spawns. If you can play for 2 or 3 hours on a specific day you have a decent shot at seeing the mob spawn. If your guild is good about keeping timers you can check if the mob is up before you log in too. Literally everything is done for you by other people, I am not sure what more you could want.

The only two times I have done a full 16 hour sock was when I was turning in my Gauntlets of Dragon Slaying and Boots of Silent Striding. In both cases Tormax and Gozzrem spawned about 5 minutes before the window closed hehe, so I was there for the full 16 hours. The game certainly hated me then.

Exactly this. You just have to be willing to get to level 60, and you might have to put in some effort in your early few weeks of trial when you're online to get to full membership.

But after that no guild on P99 has required raid attendance, you can show up on your schedule as you please for as long as you want and you aren't getting kicked out. You just aren't going to be swimming in the best loot or be a superstar in your guild, but if all you want is to see the content it is all there for you.

The uber guilds here aren't picky like they were in 2001, they can't afford to be, the playerbase is limited and attrition and churn on P99 is a constant fact of their rosters.

[Tunabros]

You can kill dragons, but to be a level 60 dragon killer you had to be insane on live, and you have to be insane here too.

red server allows better access to dragon killing and has faster EXP so I high recommend playing red for getting PVE pixels as counter intuitive as that seems.

there's one problem:

red server is cringe

[Arvan]

cOnSiDeR Teal

[unsunghero]

The biggest hurdle for most people is just finishing the grind to 60

Yeah, this. It kinda sucks watching the world get whittled away into smaller and smaller chunks of stuff that still gives exp. And I was very mentally unprepared for how long 51-60 is, especially if you are still clinging to the scraps of stuff that barely gives exp

Also, I discovered (but should have suspected) that you don’t get any exp on raids, if anything you will lose a tiny bit of exp if you die and get a rez later. There’s an exp group that is doing the majority of the damage and if you aren’t high level you prolly ain’t in it

The possible exp spots get even smaller when you play at weird hours for short bursts like me and thus have to solo in relatively safe spots that won’t create a nightmare CR situation…

[Tethler]

Stop talking.

He's not wrong though

[Maliant]

Did the mods delete the only juicy RnF thread in months?

[Fammaden]

Yeah, this. It kinda sucks watching the world get whittled away into smaller and smaller chunks of stuff that still gives exp. And I was very mentally unprepared for how long 51-60 is, especially if you are still clinging to the scraps of stuff that barely gives exp

Also, I discovered (but should have suspected) that you don’t get any exp on raids, if anything you will lose a tiny bit of exp if you die and get a rez later. There’s an exp group that is doing the majority of the damage and if you aren’t high level you prolly ain’t in it

The possible exp spots get even smaller when you play at weird hours for short bursts like me and thus have to solo in relatively safe spots that won’t create a nightmare CR situation…

It sounds crazy but the more toons you level to 60 the more you just take the 51 to 60 in stride but yeah by most people or modern game standards it seems pretty mental.

If you want positive xp gain on raids you pretty much have to be a 55+ rogue, maybe a charm ench in some farm type raids.

The camp problem and play times thing is a tricky thing of course. Obviously affected by your class, solo capability, duo desirability, etc. I'd say most solo classes can find ways to get xp to 60 pretty consistently. Not sure how short these bursts are but yeah its better to be able to dig in for an hour or two at a time.

[Ripqozko]

Stop talking.

Hey its the guy that failed all 3 servers, welcome back.

[Danth]

4. Log in and ask the guild if the mob has spawned yet. If it hasn't, sock the mob for howerver long you can, lets say 3 hours from 6pm to 9pm.

5. On a 16 hour window, even a 3 hour sock gives you a 20% chance of seeing the mob spawn while you are online. If you can do these steps for 5 weeks in a row, statistically speaking you should be around for at least one of the spawns.

6. This strategy only needs you to spend 3 hours a week during a time of year where the spawn windoe aligns with your schedule. This is very casual, and should be doable by most players.


So all a person needs to do is spend ~15 hours (average) staring at walls, spread over the course of multiple days, in order to engage in a 5 minute raid encounter?

If that's your notion of either fun or time well spent, you have vastly different notions of such things than I have. The above list strikes me as completely asinine and so unreasonable as to defy all attempts at rationalizing it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

So all a person needs to do is spend ~15 hours (average) staring at walls, spread over the course of multiple days, in order to engage in a 5 minute raid encounter?

If that's your notion of either fun or time well spent, you have vastly different notions of such things than I have. The above list strikes me as completely asinine and so unreasonable as to defy all attempts at rationalizing it.

I am not sure how you read "spend 15 hours staring at walls" from that post. Please re-read it before commenting:)

In the comment itself it says "This strategy only needs you to spend 3 hours a week during a time of year where the spawn windoe aligns with your schedule."

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I am not sure how you read "spend 15 hours staring at walls" from that post. Please re-read it before commenting:)

In the portion of the post you quoted it says "This strategy only needs you to spend 3 hours a week during a time of year where the spawn window aligns with your schedule." I am not sure how 3 hours = 15 hours.

[Danth]

I think you glossed over the part where I said:

spread over the course of multiple days

I know you weren't saying, "Do it all at once." That's what the other poster earlier in the thread said, but not me. My point, rather, is that even if you can break up the wall-staring into smaller chunks, the wall-staring-to-actual-fun ratio is so out of whack that I don't think "absurd" is a strong enough word to describe it.

Danth

[DeathsSilkyMist]

If you are trying to say "wasting 15 hours over 5 weeks is also too much for raiding", I am not sure what I can say to that. Everquest is a slow game, where you are often waiting around. Every time you need to take a meditation break, you are "staring at a wall" for x minutes to recover. Depending on how often you play P99, you can easily add that up to 3 hours a week. If you do not like that style of game, Everquest isn't for you.

If you are not a tracker, you don't need to actually watch your screen 100% of the time. If you are willing to enable batphones on your phone or something, you don't need to spend ANY time watching the screen. Just wait for the batphone:) Someone was saying they didn't want to use batphones, so if that is the case then yeah you will have to somewhat pay attention to your game. But honestly it isn't that bad, you can watch a show while waiting, you don't have to watch the screen every second.

[Danth]

You're normalizing deviance. P1999's raid scene and ruleset is a broken trainwreck and I highlighted your post because it demonstrates how unbelievable it has become. Staring at walls for hours on end, or tabbing out and not playing a game for hours on end, just so you can have a 5 minute encounter here or there is not ordinary or normal behavior.

I take a different approach and stay out of the raid scene. I enjoy the other 99% of the game just fine.

If a video game guild wants me real life contact info, it can piss off.

Danth

[Jibartik]

Wzr12gBrXA8

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You're normalizing deviance. P1999's raid scene and ruleset is a broken trainwreck and I highlighted your post because it demonstrates how unbelievable it has become. Staring at walls for hours on end, or tabbing out and not playing a game for hours on end, just so you can have a 5 minute encounter here or there is not ordinary or normal behavior.

I take a different approach and stay out of the raid scene. I enjoy the other 99% of the game just fine.

If a video game guild wants me real life contact info, it can piss off.

Danth

And I respect your opinion that you do not want to be bothered with the Everquest raid scene. I am not claiming it is for everyone. I was simply trying to help OP find a way to experience the raid content without a large time commitment. It is 100% possible right now.

But a lot of people (myself included) do enjoy the raiding scene, and honestly P99 is one of the few places that still offer some measure of guild to guild competition when raiding. This is because it is almost impossible these days to find non-instanced raiding.

As for batphones, you do not need to give out your RL information. Vanquish, for example, uses Discord, which means you can just watch your Discord notifications. Not all batphones require your real phone number to be part of the equation.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Even in Aftermath I didn't give out my real phone number to the guild. Their batphone was twitter if I remember correctly. You just subscribed to that specific twitter account to receive the notification.

[Danth]

I know, DSM. Understand I'm not insulting you, I'm insulting the ruleset. If it was saner you folks who want to raid would benefit, too.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I know, DSM. Understand I'm not insulting you, I'm insulting the ruleset. If it was saner you folks who want to raid would benefit, too.

I understand, and I appreciate you saying that. I have not taken insult.

Me personally I enjoy the long respawns and competition. It makes owning the loot feel like more of an accomplishment. Obviously all video game loot is irrelevant in the long run, but here we are playing P99:)

In every other MMO I have played in the past 10 years, loot is basically irrelevant. It is just a cookie cutter object used to mark progression. There is no feeling of accomplishment there, and honestly no point in owning it.

Maybe I am in the minority, but I enjoy meaningful loot in games. If the loot is meaningless, it is basically just a redundant system that increases the likelihood of bugs occurring, and shouldn't even be there.

[zati]

You're normalizing deviance. P1999's raid scene and ruleset is a broken trainwreck and I highlighted your post because it demonstrates how unbelievable it has become. Staring at walls for hours on end, or tabbing out and not playing a game for hours on end, just so you can have a 5 minute encounter here or there is not ordinary or normal behavior.

I take a different approach and stay out of the raid scene. I enjoy the other 99% of the game just fine.

If a video game guild wants me real life contact info, it can piss off.

Danth

NGL it requires some sort of mental disability or addiction problem to raid on P99 (It's an emulated 22 yr old game ) ; let them it's their lives.. I guess? Also, no one is forced to raid so there's that. It's like buying alcohol or cigarettes It's there on the shelf with warning labels, yet people who buy them know the consequences and there's a tax /price. P99 is kinda the same shit except its free-to-play wit guaranteed spawns every week wit crazy 16hr variance(except it isnt fun LOL).... long story short better games out there that are 10000x more fun. You still can experience 99% of classic p99 EQ w/o raiding full-time as other posters mentioned by joining a discord server, getting a batphone, logging in and just following around etc.. other people will just give u the dik answer n tell you to play on a different server yada yada.

[Jibartik]

Everything in everquest is a scale model of IRL

everything.

including the efficiency and systems of governance we use.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Everything in everquest is a scale model of IRL

everything.

including the efficiency and systems of governance we use.

P99 even has the UN!

[Swish]

what does U and N stand for in the P99 context?

[Bardp1999]

bIZoVO8ZyyQ

[unsunghero]

But a lot of people (myself included) do enjoy the raiding scene, and honestly P99 is one of the few places that still offer some measure of guild to guild competition when raiding. This is because it is almost impossible these days to find non-instanced raiding

There’s world raid bosses in classic WoW, the two most well known being Kazzak and Azuregos, others in expansions like TBC that I don’t know of because I wasn’t raiding then

From what I hear about them, they aren’t fun for the majority of people and are griefer nightmare. Kazzak in particular has a mechanic where he % heals from every player he kills and he fires out an aoe, so opposing guilds would just keep rezzing and suiciding themselves into him to keep him healing himself after they lose the encounter to prevent another guild from killing him

Azuregos was harder to grief, the only way I knew of would be to pull him away from the other guild and try to get him to leash which would reset his health

[Jibartik]

I always work real hard in eq then look at my bank and think this is exactly like my carrier this game is too real

[Gustoo]

The only thing these servers need is random ass down time that ruins all raider plans by repop ping the whole server like live had

[DeathsSilkyMist]

The only thing these servers need is random ass down time that ruins all raider plans by repop ping the whole server like live had

That is what quakes are supposed to emulate actually. I don't know how the rate of quakes compares to how often the servers went down on live, but that would be cool to adjust the quake rate to match that.

[strongNpretty]

Hey its the guy that failed all 3 servers, welcome back.

Hi

[Solist]

Just go play on TAKP.

Raid in your guilds raid hours.

The mobs are always up.

You get all content.

There is no batphones or tracking or nonsense like p99.

There is years of content to do. P99 felt stagnant and horrible after 2 years of kunark. Let alone 5 years of velious. Jesus this place is unhealthy.

[Gustoo]

That is what quakes are supposed to emulate actually. I don't know how the rate of quakes compares to how often the servers went down on live, but that would be cool to adjust the quake rate to match that.

Quakes are supposed to happen without anyone being aware of them happening. You go to login server and your server is down and you know everything is gunna be up by the time you get in there and it’s go time.

I don’t think any guild is big enough to FTE all the high value targets on p99 which means the less populous guilds would have some chance with this method.

[Fammaden]

That is what quakes are supposed to emulate actually. I don't know how the rate of quakes compares to how often the servers went down on live, but that would be cool to adjust the quake rate to match that.

During Velious it was literally like every week, and usually at like 9AM pacific on weekday like Tuesday for server maintenance.

[Jibartik]

I like quakes vs spawn timers because thats a free for all and requires racing and mobalizing, which is the only way you can enjoy a raid.

So I feel like once all raid mobs are dead, the random earth quake timer starts ticking down, that'd be a better system for everquest than individual timers.

But I would rather they made it so you could fight nag and vox at 60 than they do anything else.

[Tunabros]

op wants to kill a dragon
>no raid knowledge
>doesnt put in effort to actually try to attend dragons
>doesnt even have a max level yet

sounds about right

keep complaining and im sure they will eventually give you what you want
red players are doing the same thing too!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

op wants to kill a dragon
>no raid knowledge
>doesnt put in effort to actually try to attend dragons
>doesnt even have a max level yet

sounds about right

keep complaining and im sure they will eventually give you what you want
red players are doing the same thing too!

Agreed. If you don't put in any effort, you won't kill a Dragon lol. It really doesn't require that much effort as a casual. More than most MMOs these days? Yes, but if you want that, go play those MMOs instead.

[Mblake1981]

Agreed. If you don't put in any effort, you won't kill a Dragon lol. It really doesn't require that much effort as a casual. More than most MMOs these days? Yes, but if you want that, go play those MMOs instead.

[visits loot store]

"Done!" -Dude Bigly

[Topgunben]

op wants to kill a dragon
>no raid knowledge
>doesnt put in effort to actually try to attend dragons
>doesnt even have a max level yet

sounds about right

keep complaining and im sure they will eventually give you what you want
red players are doing the same thing too!

Tuna, not everyone is willing to go to such great lengths, such as yourself, to conquer Drangondom. Most people have a family and life that exists outside of video games. I know this is hard for you to comprehend because you never leave your 5x5 Made in China shitbox. Your online nursing school courses may be the only thing still tying you to the outside world.

But to refute your points one by one:
-no raid knowledge - what are you basing this on? I have years of playing EQ religiously back in 1999 to 2002. I dont raid on P99 because im not autistic.
-doesnt put in the effort - wrong again, im just not willing to go to such great lengths as you are.
-doesnt even have a max level yet - again you assume because I havent updated my signature in 5 years that I dont have a max level. Ill update my signature, then you'll know how amazing I am.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Tuna, not everyone is willing to go to such great lengths, such as yourself, to conquer Drangondom. Most people have a family and life that exists outside of video games. I know this is hard for you to comprehend because you never leave your 5x5 Made in China shitbox. Your online nursing school courses may be the only thing still tying you to the outside world.

But to refute your points one by one:
-no raid knowledge - what are you basing this on? I have years of playing EQ religiously back in 1999 to 2002. I dont raid on P99 because im not autistic.
-doesnt put in the effort - wrong again, im just not willing to go to such great lengths as you are.
-doesnt even have a max level yet - again you assume because I havent updated my signature in 5 years that I dont have a max level. Ill update my signature, then you'll know how amazing I am.

If you follow my advise in earlier posts you should only need to spend a few hours a week, and you will catch a dragon. If you can't put in even 3 hours a week, then unfortunately you won't get dragons, and honestly Everquest isn't really for you. Not trying to be mean, but you can't get very far in EQ playing 1 or 2 hours a week. It isn't a game built for that.

[Tunabros]

Tuna, not everyone is willing to go to such great lengths, such as yourself, to conquer Drangondom. Most people have a family and life that exists outside of video games. I know this is hard for you to comprehend because you never leave your 5x5 Made in China shitbox. Your online nursing school courses may be the only thing still tying you to the outside world.

But to refute your points one by one:
-no raid knowledge - what are you basing this on? I have years of playing EQ religiously back in 1999 to 2002. I dont raid on P99 because im not autistic.
-doesnt put in the effort - wrong again, im just not willing to go to such great lengths as you are.
-doesnt even have a max level yet - again you assume because I havent updated my signature in 5 years that I dont have a max level. Ill update my signature, then you'll know how amazing I am.

nah

you just not putting in effort

anyone can raid

its that simple

stop being a whiny/lazy lil bitch and apply to a guild

the second sons and castle are some good casual guilds, I recommend them

both are very friendly and nice people in it

hope this helps

[Tunabros]

also btw I had a 16-20 percent raid attendance in my guild on green (Kingdom)

and I saw all sorts of dragons

sure, I was pretty useless sometimes but I got to see dragons and everyone have been

awesome and kind

your the type of person who says something is shit but doesn't actually try it

might as well boot up a eqemu server and load up gear on yourself and wander

NTOV and jack off

[Chortles Snortles]

double post anime Druid
(LOL)

[Bardp1999]

double post anime Druid
(LOL)

https://i.imgur.com/6kGYNve.jpg

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/6kGYNve.jpg

Good shit

[Tunabros]

double post anime Druid
(LOL)

demon slayer is mid

*incoming triggered snortle post*

[Kohedron]

Posting in a "I pretend to hate instancing but actually love it" thread

[Midfrost]

TAKP mob rotations are serverwide agreements, any bosses that are also quest mobs are left standing for a time so people can complete quests.

Now that PoP has launched, many many many dragons will be available for slaying.

"The Fabled Earthshaker"