Canadian Freedom Convoys

[Smoofers]

Surprised there's no mention of this yet here. Is honking a horn more or less peaceful of a protest than BLM burning down entire city blocks? Can anything actually be achieved by simply tooting one's horn? Will the emotionally sensitive, open-minded, anarcho-communists living in downtown Ottowa be able to cope with such a strong showing of peace?

Discuss.

[robayon]

Man those protests really rattled you guys. Wonder which side you'd have been on if this was the 60's. Oh well. More are coming, don't worry.

[Botten]

Surprised there's no mention of this yet here. Is honking a horn more or less peaceful of a protest than BLM burning down entire city blocks? Can anything actually be achieved by simply tooting one's horn? Will the emotionally sensitive, open-minded, anarcho-communists living in downtown Ottowa be able to cope with such a strong showing of peace?

Discuss.

A Woman dancing on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at the National War Memorial seems like a very far right productive protest. You show them Boomers!

The truckers and their supporters - were estimated to be in the thousands (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60202050) while An estimated 15 million to 26 million people participated in the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests in the United States (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/03/us/george-floyd-protests-crowd-size.html)

90% of Canada's 120,000 cross-border truckers are vaccinated, in line with the country's adult population. (also in the article) (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60202050)

Sorry the other 10% of the crazies feel their convoy is the best form of protest. *boggle*

It just seems and already has been said, "an insult to memory and truth" of the number of deaths to this virus.

[Ooloo]

The fact that the mainstream left in both the US and canada is trying to demonize these people as (wait for it) racist, fascist yada yada yada same old shit, is just hilarious to me.

They are literally siding with the establishment over the average worker. Specifically, people who bring you all the fundamental goods you need to live your life. And all they're protesting are mandates, they aren't anti-vax nuts or something. 90% of them *are* vaxxed, but they have principles. Good on them. Fuck establishment goons who are trying to stifle them, regardless of which party they come from.

[Ooloo]

It just seems and already has been said, "an insult to memory and truth" of the number of deaths to this virus.

The number of deaths to this virus is not at all clear. Even the CDC has said as much. They themselves have admitted there is no clear data on people who died from covid VS people who died from something else and had covid when they did. If you have brain cancer and die with covid, and a minor cold would have also easily killed you, that's counted as a covid death. The fear porn addicts never seem to give a shit about this though, they *insist* on distorting and exaggerating the actual danger of covid *itself*, as distinct from other factors. Turns out, it's not very dangerous at all to most people. Especially omicron.

[Botten]

The number of deaths to this virus is not at all clear. Even the CDC has said as much. They themselves have admitted there is no clear data on people who died from covid VS people who died from something else and had covid when they did. If you have brain cancer and die with covid, and a minor cold would have also easily killed you, that's counted as a covid death. The fear porn addicts never seem to give a shit about this though, they *insist* on distorting and exaggerating the actual danger of covid *itself*, as distinct from other factors. Turns out, it's not very dangerous at all to most people. Especially omicron.

Denial is the first step.

[Reiwa]

Did anyone say 'mostly peaceful honkeys' yet?

[robayon]

The fact that the mainstream left in both the US and canada is trying to demonize these people as (wait for it) racist, fascist yada yada yada same old shit, is just hilarious to me.

They are literally siding with the establishment over the average worker. Specifically, people who bring you all the fundamental goods you need to live your life. And all they're protesting are mandates, they aren't anti-vax nuts or something. 90% of them *are* vaxxed, but they have principles. Good on them. Fuck establishment goons who are trying to stifle them, regardless of which party they come from.Starting to see the insidious nature of capitalist media companies and how they launder anti-labor classism while pleasing their corporate overlords and shareholders? Good

One of many reasons I say there is no such thing as an actual leftist mainstream media network, and why we laugh when y'all think that griping about CNN or MSNBC means a dang thing to anyone to the left of a plain ol' liberal

[Reiwa]

Starting to see the insidious nature of capitalist media companies and how they launder anti-labor classism while pleasing their corporate overlords and shareholders? Good

One of many reasons I say there is no such thing as an actual leftist mainstream media network, and why we laugh when y'all think that griping about CNN or MSNBC means a dang thing to anyone to the left of a plain ol' liberal

Dawg there's a whole ecosystem of ostensibly right-wing newsmans singing the praises of this direct aktion by the Canadian trucker unions.

Enjoy the little things.

[Jibartik]

If I lived in those apartments id be dumping buckets of poop and piss on those trucks like it was the renaissance era again.

I love that the truckers went downtown to blare their horns at libtards that live downtown lol but if I was there, holy shit.. that's what it'd be raining on them.

Id eat fast food every meal and just load those buckets up.

[Reiwa]

Dawg there's a whole ecosystem of ostensibly right-wing newsmans singing the praises of this direct aktion by the Canadian trucker unions.

Enjoy the little things.

Trump Conservatives be like:

aRq1Ksh-32g

[Jibartik]

Did anyone say 'mostly peaceful honkeys' yet?

timestamp the meme was started here.

[robayon]

Dawg there's a whole ecosystem of ostensibly right-wing newsmans singing the praises of this direct aktion by the Canadian trucker unions.

Enjoy the little things.Oh I enjoy seeing truckers snarl up stuff. They are crucial workers, as long as the supply chains work like they do. I am sure there are a lot of opinions among them, and I do not believe what little coverage I have watched.

History is a big old stew of the good and bad!

[Jibartik]

Ill enjoy it when they start eating each other.

[Ooloo]

Dawg there's a whole ecosystem of ostensibly right-wing newsmans singing the praises of this direct aktion by the Canadian trucker unions.

Enjoy the little things.

Haha, right cause unions are supposed to be bad! So this situation, which is not about american labor unions, is kind of the same! Gotcha conservatives!

No. As usual, totally different situation. Dunk invalid.

[Ooloo]

Starting to see the insidious nature of capitalist media companies and how they launder anti-labor classism while pleasing their corporate overlords and shareholders? Good

One of many reasons I say there is no such thing as an actual leftist mainstream media network, and why we laugh when y'all think that griping about CNN or MSNBC means a dang thing to anyone to the left of a plain ol' liberal

Oh I'm well aware the real divide now is between populists and establishmentarians. It doesn't really matter what party you're in. The thing is, things like this trucker protest *ARE* highly populist, and opposing it exposes you as sympathetic to the establishment over common people.

[Reiwa]

Haha, right cause unions are supposed to be bad! So this situation, which is not about american labor unions, is kind of the same! Gotcha conservatives!

No. As usual, totally different situation. Dunk invalid.

Oh I'm well aware the real divide now is between populists and establishmentarians. It doesn't really matter what party you're in. The thing is, things like this trucker protest *ARE* highly populist, and opposing it exposes you as sympathetic to the establishment over common people.

🎶 Solidarity Forever for the Union makes us strong (https://youtu.be/pCnEAH5wCzo) 🎶

[robayon]

Are you implying that there is a mainstream news network that is actually sympathetic to the common people and not the establishment?

I mean, sure, lots of indie ones of lots of ideologies

[unsunghero]

If I lived in those apartments id be dumping buckets of poop and piss on those trucks like it was the renaissance era again.

I love that the truckers went downtown to blare their horns at libtards that live downtown lol but if I was there, holy shit.. that's what it'd be raining on them.

Id eat fast food every meal and just load those buckets up.

Yeah man, people honking all day would piss me off if I lived there

Blocking roads, no matter which side does it, is shitty. Could be blocking an ambulance trying to get someone to a hospital, etc

Defacing monuments is shitty but the left’s riots did all that and much more too

[Jibartik]

Riots suck because all they do is attack innocent people until someone says ok ok stop stop!

Like, during BLM it was attacking small business owners and random citizens and even homes.

These truckers are driving down to a place where a bunch of people live and nobody in the goverment does, and blasting their horns all night and basically just terrorizing innocent people.

Like wtf is wrong with poor people "lEtS AlL gO KiLl EaChOtHer in A pURgE tHAt'LL shoW Em!"

[Toxigen]

just get the godamn war started already

[Ooloo]

Blocking traffic is definitely always bad, but I'd say they have a way more legitimate cause. And I don't think they're blocking traffic as much as slowing it down, and if an ambulance did have to get through they'd probably make room.

And they're also probably feeling emboldened to even do this at all because loud, disruptive protests in recent history have gone totally uncondemned and even celebrated by the same political machine pushing the vax mandates they are protesting.

[Horza]

just get the godamn war started already

You alt-right freaks would get slaughtered in a day going up against the U.S. military.

[starkind]

We are about to come completely unhinged.

The powerful are printing millions in funbucks and cool kid credits while the average person is unemployed or making minimum wage doing stooopid make werk. Meanwhile all those industries that make u first world are imploding because no one wants to put up with the bullshit.

Acceleration without even effort.

[unsunghero]

You alt-right freaks would get slaughtered in a day going up against the U.S. military.

In the past: You can’t beat the might of the US military with your puny assault rifles

“Lol ok”

[Ooloo]

You alt-right freaks would get slaughtered in a day going up against the U.S. military.

You're assuming the US military would attack the very citizens it swore to defend? I dunno if I see that happening exactly.

[Patriam1066]

Are you implying that there is a mainstream news network that is actually sympathetic to the common people and not the establishment?

I mean, sure, lots of indie ones of lots of ideologies

What is “the common people?” Who are they? Do they share any values or desires? What is the establishment? Anyone with a 401k? Please define terms for me so that I know whether I’m good or evil

[robayon]

What is “the common people?” Who are they? Do they share any values or desires? What is the establishment? Anyone with a 401k? Please define terms for me so that I know whether I’m good or evilI have a SEP IRA lol. Turns out even us anarcho-commies have jobs and bills to pay and all that stuff. And I didn't coin that term in this thread, Ooloo did. Ask him, he loves answering questions accurately

[nilzark]

Freedom is an illusion, we are all slaves.

[Horza]

You're assuming the US military would attack the very citizens it swore to defend? I dunno if I see that happening exactly.

If Trumptards like yourself are killing people to try and start a civil war, of course they would.

[Ooloo]

Ah, okay. So more nonsense then. Gotcha.

[Jibartik]

Yea, people are going to be so dedicated to fight for people like this:

A judge approved $100,000 in student-loan forgiveness for a 35-year-old man who filed for bankruptcy. Biden's education secretary just took the first step to block that decision

[Gravydoo II]

Lol they are planning an insurgency and really think they stand a chance.. like they are as hard as the viet-cong. As soon as they start getting ate up by mosquitos and have one night without AC, they will quit and go home.

The other part is they will kill one another before any real plan gets off the ground. You think you can just combine like 20 rag tag "militias" made up of dale gribble, uncle jimbo, ned, and charlie kirk types into an army? None of them will want to give up command of their retard brigade.

They are too juvenile, too deluded, and too self-righteous. Whats their big cause? Omg my god biden is giving money to parents to spend on kids! Child poverty is down 41% omg terrible kill them all.

As soon as someone has to hold someones guts inside their own bodies, they will quit.

[Jibartik]

yeah listen to P99‘s version of the QAnon shaman he knows what he’s talking about.

[Gravydoo II]

People who leave the house tend to know more than people who dont.

[Jibartik]

Unless they live in Florida.

[Trexller]

Lol they are planning an insurgency and really think they stand a chance.. like they are as hard as the viet-cong. As soon as they start getting ate up by mosquitos and have one night without AC, they will quit and go home.

The other part is they will kill one another before any real plan gets off the ground. You think you can just combine like 20 rag tag "militias" made up of dale gribble, uncle jimbo, ned, and charlie kirk types into an army? None of them will want to give up command of their retard brigade.

They are too juvenile, too deluded, and too self-righteous. Whats their big cause? Omg my god biden is giving money to parents to spend on kids! Child poverty is down 41% omg terrible kill them all.

As soon as someone has to hold someones guts inside their own bodies, they will quit.

What because you don't understand insurgent tactics, that means no one else does? Some of us stood up when the nation called back in 2001, some of us went and trained and got shit on and then trained some more.

These "dale gribble, uncle jimbo, ned, and charlie kirk types" are Nothing. NOTHING. They are self deluded cosplayers on their best day. Like those honkies that went and tried to get Gov. Gretchen Witmer in Michigan. Those guys are nobody. They are a stain on the American Serviceman.

(1) Anyone who knows anything about an urban insurgency, knows that OPSEC is priority 1 and will not discuss it outside their circle. No facebook, No P99 Forums, they will not mention their capabilities or plans, or even ideologies.

(2) Those that do understand how to wage non-linear/asymmetrical warfare, will not show up at a rally/protest in 30 year old army surplus gear.

(3) We are everywhere. We build your homes, we collect your refuse, we repair your car, we farm your foods, we transport your goods, we manage your utilities. We are legion, numerous in our solidarity.

So Gravy, what have you ever done in your life to earn any mettle? Can you even comprehend the concept of mettle?

Maybe thats too difficult for you to grasp, so I'll write you a story with pictures:

This is MY side:

https://i.imgur.com/PZjH7p6.jpg

This is YOUR side:

https://i.imgur.com/wLWDZ8V.jpg

[Horza]

What because you don't understand insurgent tactics, that means no one else does? Some of us stood up when the nation called back in 2001, some of us went and trained and got shit on and then trained some more.

These "dale gribble, uncle jimbo, ned, and charlie kirk types" are Nothing. NOTHING. They are self deluded cosplayers on their best day. Like those honkies that went and tried to get Gov. Gretchen Witmer in Michigan. Those guys are nobody. They are a stain on the American Serviceman.

(1) Anyone who knows anything about an urban insurgency, knows that OPSEC is priority 1 and will not discuss it outside their circle. No facebook, No P99 Forums, they will not mention their capabilities or plans, or even ideologies.

(2) Those that do understand how to wage non-linear/asymmetrical warfare, will not show up at a rally/protest in 30 year old army surplus gear.

(3) We are everywhere. We build your homes, we collect your refuse, we repair your car, we farm your foods, we transport your goods, we manage your utilities. We are legion, numerous in our solidarity.

So Gravy, what have you ever done in your life to earn any mettle? Can you even comprehend the concept of mettle?

Maybe thats too difficult for you to grasp, so I'll write you a story with pictures:

This is MY side:

https://i.imgur.com/PZjH7p6.jpg

This is YOUR side:

https://i.imgur.com/wLWDZ8V.jpg

Good luck with your redneck insurgency, buddy.

[Trexller]

Good luck with your redneck insurgency, buddy.

My redneck insurgency?

All im saying is that I know the types of people who could actually hold ground.

When all this shit goes to hell, I'm gonna make popcorn and sit on my front porch.

[Jibartik]

9tpEPEuapM4

[robayon]

People just KEEP FORGETTING the difference between words and bullets. What an Epic Quote

[Ooloo]

The left in 2020: "You have to separate the BLM rioters from the protesters, most of them aren't burning down stores, you can't just characterize it as violent!"

The left in 2022: "OMG the canadian truckers are all racist white supremacists, Trudeau even says so!"

Meanwhile BLM riots actually caused dozens of deaths and billions in damage, much of it UN-insured. The canadian trucker convoy had like 2 redneck douchebags with naughty flags, who they kicked out specifically for having them.

The left's hypocrisy never ceases to amaze!

[Jibartik]

good point we're either really dumb or satan is real.

[Reiwa]

The canadian trucker convoy had like 2 redneck douchebags with naughty flags, who they kicked out specifically for having them.

The left's hypocrisy never ceases to amaze!

I appreciate you dropping the provacateur angle, in light of being made fun of. :p

Hypocrisy tho.

[Gravydoo II]

2 seconds of googling..

Organizers claimed in late January that the convoy had grown to tens of thousands of trucks -- even that the number was around 50,000. Others repeated this "50,000" figure.
Theo Fleury, a retired hockey star who's a frequent critic of Trudeau, said on Fox in late January that there were "50,000 truckers" heading to Ottawa. Rogan, who has been criticized for his show's role in promoting Covid-19 misinformation, said on the show in late January that the convoy involved "apparently some insane amount of people, like 50,000 trucks." Even larger figures, like "80,000" or "over 130,000" trucks, swirled on social media.
Facts First: The number of trucks involved in the protest was never anywhere close to 50,000; such a number of trucks would have taken up hundreds of miles more road space than this protest occupied. Canadian journalists put the number of trucks in the hundreds in late January. Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly told reporters on January 31 that it was impossible to provide exact crowd-size figures but that he had "heard" numbers as high as 18,000 total demonstrators -- not just truckers -- present in the city at the peak of the protest on January 29. No credible source has reported that the number of participating trucks in particular ever approached tens of thousands, let alone "50,000."
Police in Kingston, Ontario, a city through which a portion of the protest convoy passed, tweeted on January 28 that they had counted 17 full tractor-trailers, 104 tractors without trailers, 424 passenger vehicles and 6 RVs. The same day, Global News chief political correspondent David Akin tweeted that police sources had told him there were "230 tractors / tractor-trailers & 725 personal vehicles from Toronto and Western Canada," plus 200 vehicles from the eastern provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia (he added that there were an "unknown" number of others involved).
Rogan could not be immediately reached for comment. When Fleury was asked for comment about how he had repeated the false "50,000 truckers" claim on Fox, he emailed a reply in which he attacked CNN and the Trudeau government and said, "Ever heard of a little thing called marketing??? It worked."
Falsely captioned photos and videos
Numerous social media posts put inaccurate captions on photos and videos of events that had occurred prior to 2022 -- such as truck demonstrations, other protests, even a parade in support of the Special Olympics -- to falsely claim these images were connected to the Canadian convoy protest.
Facts First: One video that has been shared on various social media platforms was captioned to claim that it showed South Carolina truckers heading to Ottawa to join the convoy -- but it actually showed an August 2021 truck parade in support of the Special Olympics, USA Today reported. A video of honking Brazilian truckers that circulated on Facebook was from a May 2021 demonstration in support of President Jair Bolsonaro, not a demonstration in solidarity with the Canadian truckers as some captions claimed, USA Today also reported. A photo of a massive protest crowd, shared in Twitter posts in both English and Spanish as if it were from Ottawa this year, actually depicted a 1991 demonstration in Moscow against the Communist government of the Soviet Union, Reuters reported. And another photo, which has been described in Facebook posts as a group of Amish people driving to support the convoy, is a shot of Old Order Mennonites simply going to church, PolitiFact reported.
Even billionaire Tesla Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk got in on the game, though without making an explicitly false claim himself.
Musk, who has more than 73 million followers on Twitter and has expressed support for the Canadian protest, tweeted out an aerial image on January 30 that showed a long line of trucks on a road surrounded by snowy land. The image included the words, "Taking a break from politics for a while. Here's a nice photo of trucks."
Musk didn't say anything about where and when the image had been taken, but the replies to his tweet -- which generated more than 40,000 retweets -- showed that a significant number of people believed that it was a shot of the Canadian convoy this year, as some others on social media strongly suggested in their own captions.
It wasn't. The image was from a 2018 convoy demonstration in the Canadian province of Alberta -- a demonstration in support of Canada's oil and gas industry. Tesla makes electric vehicles.
A false claim about police resignations
Pat King, who was listed as one of the regional organizers of the convoy and has been one of its leading online promoters, has more than 293,000 followers on his Facebook page. During a Facebook livestream on Sunday, which had been viewed more than 204,000 times as of early Tuesday afternoon, King claimed that "50% of the Ottawa police force have all turned in their resignation today" -- suggesting these supposed resignations had happened because the officers support the protests.
That claim quickly made its way to other social media platforms. British actor John Bowe tweeted on Monday: "Reports that 50% of @OttawaPolice have tendered their resignation and Canadian Armed forces reportedly vow allegiance to the people." Bowe's tweet generated more than 11,000 retweets before he deleted it.
Facts First: These claims were entirely false. Ottawa police spokesperson Constable Amy Gagnon said in Monday emails to CNN that "there have been no resignations in relation to the Demonstration" and "all available officers are working." And the Canadian Armed Forces have not made any vow of "allegiance" in relation to the protests nor issued any dramatic statements of any kind about this issue. "In short, no, we have not made any such comment," a military spokesperson said in a Monday email to CNN.
King, who has a history of promoting conspiracy theories and other false claims, did not respond to CNN's requests for comment on Monday. After CNN fact-checked Bowe's tweet on Twitter on Monday, Bowe tweeted to another Twitter user that "I wish it were (true) but it is disputed. Apparently the reports I read were posted by an imaginative trucker. But we can dream."
A false claim about the government and hotels
Rupa Subramanya, who has more than 128,000 Twitter followers and writes columns for the National Post, a conservative Canadian newspaper, tweeted on Sunday: "I've heard from so many today that some Ottawa hotels have been instructed by the city/feds not to give out rooms to the protestors. The Marriott downtown apparently is empty but evidently all the rooms booked. Someone should really investigate if this is true."
Facts First: Regardless of what Subramanya may have been told, the claims she amplified were not true. The employees who took CNN's calls at the downtown Marriott and five other Ottawa hotels on Monday said their establishments had not been given any anti-protester instruction by any government; Patrick Champagne, press secretary to Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson, told CNN that the claim "is categorically false"; Alexander Cohen, spokesperson for Canadian Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino, called the claim "ludicrous" and said that "no one from the federal government has done that"; Steve Bell, president of the Ottawa Gatineau Hotel Association, said that "to my knowledge there is no truth to this rumour." As for the Marriott in particular, it had rooms available at the time of Subramanya's tweet on Sunday evening and again on Monday evening.

[Ooloo]

I appreciate you dropping the provacateur angle, in light of being made fun of. :p

Hypocrisy tho.

Sigh. Can somebody run this through the Reiwa translator?

What are you actually saying? That blm violence was fake or that the trucker confederate flag guy was fake or what?

[Homesteaded]

Wow that post by biscuits...ain't nobody reading that.

[Reiwa]

Sigh. Can somebody run this through the Reiwa translator?

What are you actually saying? That blm violence was fake or that the trucker confederate flag guy was fake or what?

Guess you missed that derail.

It's OK, boomer.

[Reiwa]

2 seconds of googling..

Organizers claimed in late January that the convoy had grown to tens of thousands of trucks -- even that the number was around 50,000. Others repeated this "50,000" figure.
Theo Fleury, a retired hockey star who's a frequent critic of Trudeau, said on Fox in late January that there were "50,000 truckers" heading to Ottawa. Rogan, who has been criticized for his show's role in promoting Covid-19 misinformation, said on the show in late January that the convoy involved "apparently some insane amount of people, like 50,000 trucks." Even larger figures, like "80,000" or "over 130,000" trucks, swirled on social media.
Facts First: The number of trucks involved in the protest was never anywhere close to 50,000; such a number of trucks would have taken up hundreds of miles more road space than this protest occupied. Canadian journalists put the number of trucks in the hundreds in late January. Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly told reporters on January 31 that it was impossible to provide exact crowd-size figures but that he had "heard" numbers as high as 18,000 total demonstrators -- not just truckers -- present in the city at the peak of the protest on January 29. No credible source has reported that the number of participating trucks in particular ever approached tens of thousands, let alone "50,000."
Police in Kingston, Ontario, a city through which a portion of the protest convoy passed, tweeted on January 28 that they had counted 17 full tractor-trailers, 104 tractors without trailers, 424 passenger vehicles and 6 RVs. The same day, Global News chief political correspondent David Akin tweeted that police sources had told him there were "230 tractors / tractor-trailers & 725 personal vehicles from Toronto and Western Canada," plus 200 vehicles from the eastern provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia (he added that there were an "unknown" number of others involved).
Rogan could not be immediately reached for comment. When Fleury was asked for comment about how he had repeated the false "50,000 truckers" claim on Fox, he emailed a reply in which he attacked CNN and the Trudeau government and said, "Ever heard of a little thing called marketing??? It worked."
Falsely captioned photos and videos
Numerous social media posts put inaccurate captions on photos and videos of events that had occurred prior to 2022 -- such as truck demonstrations, other protests, even a parade in support of the Special Olympics -- to falsely claim these images were connected to the Canadian convoy protest.
Facts First: One video that has been shared on various social media platforms was captioned to claim that it showed South Carolina truckers heading to Ottawa to join the convoy -- but it actually showed an August 2021 truck parade in support of the Special Olympics, USA Today reported. A video of honking Brazilian truckers that circulated on Facebook was from a May 2021 demonstration in support of President Jair Bolsonaro, not a demonstration in solidarity with the Canadian truckers as some captions claimed, USA Today also reported. A photo of a massive protest crowd, shared in Twitter posts in both English and Spanish as if it were from Ottawa this year, actually depicted a 1991 demonstration in Moscow against the Communist government of the Soviet Union, Reuters reported. And another photo, which has been described in Facebook posts as a group of Amish people driving to support the convoy, is a shot of Old Order Mennonites simply going to church, PolitiFact reported.
Even billionaire Tesla Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk got in on the game, though without making an explicitly false claim himself.
Musk, who has more than 73 million followers on Twitter and has expressed support for the Canadian protest, tweeted out an aerial image on January 30 that showed a long line of trucks on a road surrounded by snowy land. The image included the words, "Taking a break from politics for a while. Here's a nice photo of trucks."
Musk didn't say anything about where and when the image had been taken, but the replies to his tweet -- which generated more than 40,000 retweets -- showed that a significant number of people believed that it was a shot of the Canadian convoy this year, as some others on social media strongly suggested in their own captions.
It wasn't. The image was from a 2018 convoy demonstration in the Canadian province of Alberta -- a demonstration in support of Canada's oil and gas industry. Tesla makes electric vehicles.
A false claim about police resignations
Pat King, who was listed as one of the regional organizers of the convoy and has been one of its leading online promoters, has more than 293,000 followers on his Facebook page. During a Facebook livestream on Sunday, which had been viewed more than 204,000 times as of early Tuesday afternoon, King claimed that "50% of the Ottawa police force have all turned in their resignation today" -- suggesting these supposed resignations had happened because the officers support the protests.
That claim quickly made its way to other social media platforms. British actor John Bowe tweeted on Monday: "Reports that 50% of @OttawaPolice have tendered their resignation and Canadian Armed forces reportedly vow allegiance to the people." Bowe's tweet generated more than 11,000 retweets before he deleted it.
Facts First: These claims were entirely false. Ottawa police spokesperson Constable Amy Gagnon said in Monday emails to CNN that "there have been no resignations in relation to the Demonstration" and "all available officers are working." And the Canadian Armed Forces have not made any vow of "allegiance" in relation to the protests nor issued any dramatic statements of any kind about this issue. "In short, no, we have not made any such comment," a military spokesperson said in a Monday email to CNN.
King, who has a history of promoting conspiracy theories and other false claims, did not respond to CNN's requests for comment on Monday. After CNN fact-checked Bowe's tweet on Twitter on Monday, Bowe tweeted to another Twitter user that "I wish it were (true) but it is disputed. Apparently the reports I read were posted by an imaginative trucker. But we can dream."
A false claim about the government and hotels
Rupa Subramanya, who has more than 128,000 Twitter followers and writes columns for the National Post, a conservative Canadian newspaper, tweeted on Sunday: "I've heard from so many today that some Ottawa hotels have been instructed by the city/feds not to give out rooms to the protestors. The Marriott downtown apparently is empty but evidently all the rooms booked. Someone should really investigate if this is true."
Facts First: Regardless of what Subramanya may have been told, the claims she amplified were not true. The employees who took CNN's calls at the downtown Marriott and five other Ottawa hotels on Monday said their establishments had not been given any anti-protester instruction by any government; Patrick Champagne, press secretary to Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson, told CNN that the claim "is categorically false"; Alexander Cohen, spokesperson for Canadian Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino, called the claim "ludicrous" and said that "no one from the federal government has done that"; Steve Bell, president of the Ottawa Gatineau Hotel Association, said that "to my knowledge there is no truth to this rumour." As for the Marriott in particular, it had rooms available at the time of Subramanya's tweet on Sunday evening and again on Monday evening.

The internet makes you stupid. 💯

[Elizondo]

16910

[Chortles Snortles]

they should just follow the law (lol)

[Gravydoo II]

Damn, i know its very hard to read words. Theres really not that many though.. Its like, you're just too stupid to read past 140 characters.

You can do this thing where you highlight something, press ctrl+c, then paste it with ctrl+v.

[Reiwa]

Damn, i know its very hard to read words. Theres really not that many though.. Its like, you're just too stupid to read past 140 characters.

You can do this thing where you highlight something, press ctrl+c, then paste it with ctrl+v.

Truckers is clearly more meme than movement.

Twitter isn't real life guys. 🥲

[Gravydoo II]

Still, if you're gonna lie and say 50,000 truckers.. like, that would be about 501 miles of backed up truck traffic.

[Jibartik]

why not lie and say it's an insurrection

[Ooloo]

Haha, you gotta love it. Lefties gonna ostrich. "Truckor movement not very big! haha!" is all they have. It is both quite large and quite popular among normal people.

Still nothing to actually say about:

-the relative merits of mandates
-the value of having your groceries delivered VS some people resisting a nascent, experimental vaccine for a relatively mild virus
-the fact that the left is completely misrepresenting and smearing the people participating in the protest, and that doing so is completely antithetical to their historical support of the working class against establishment power

They are thrashing on a sinking ship on this issue, just bail already guys

[Reiwa]

Haha, you gotta love it. Lefties gonna ostrich. "Truckor movement not very big! haha!" is all they have. It is both quite large and quite popular among normal people.

Still nothing to actually say about:

-the relative merits of mandates
-the value of having your groceries delivered VS some people resisting a nascent, experimental vaccine for a relatively mild virus
-the fact that the left is completely misrepresenting and smearing the people participating in the protest, and that doing so is completely antithetical to their historical support of the working class against establishment power

They are thrashing on a sinking ship on this issue, just bail already guys

Quite popular on Twitter 😬

[Gravydoo II]

I could call 20 people busting a window of your house and ransacking the place legitimate political discourse, too.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/cMvpe3J.png

[Ooloo]

Quite popular on Twitter 😬

Cool! I'll just reiterate then:

Still nothing to actually say about:

-the relative merits of mandates
-the value of having your groceries delivered VS some people resisting a nascent, experimental vaccine for a relatively mild virus
-the fact that the left is completely misrepresenting and smearing the people participating in the protest, and that doing so is completely antithetical to their historical support of the working class against establishment power

Leftie dumbs trolling or dumb.. who can be sure?

[Ooloo]

https://i.imgur.com/cMvpe3J.png

Those INSURRECTIONISTS politely observing the velvet rope boundaries while carrying a desk surely almost TOPPLED our democracy! Hitler and Stalin and Japan and Mao and North Korea and Iran combined don't even come close to the threat we faced that fateful day!

[Gravydoo II]

Its your america, too. You just hate it and all that it stands for. Thats why you support this shit.
Why dont you leave if you hate it so much?
You dont like free speech.
You dont like elections.
You dont like any form of government.
You dont like the bill of rights of the constitution.

Why stay?

[Reiwa]

Cool! I'll just reiterate then:

Still nothing to actually say about:

-the relative merits of mandates
-the value of having your groceries delivered VS some people resisting a nascent, experimental vaccine for a relatively mild virus
-the fact that the left is completely misrepresenting and smearing the people participating in the protest, and that doing so is completely antithetical to their historical support of the working class against establishment power

Leftie dumbs trolling or dumb.. who can be sure?

Not the part I was replying to weirdo. :p

[Elizondo]

Its your america, too. You just hate it and all that it stands for. Thats why you support this shit.
Why dont you leave if you hate it so much?
You dont like free speech.
You dont like elections.
You dont like any form of government.
You dont like the bill of rights of the constitution.

Why stay?

I dunno man

I only see dems tearin down statues of Jefferson, Lincoln and Washington

[Jibartik]

Its your america, too. You just hate it and all that it stands for. Thats why you support this shit.
Why dont you leave if you hate it so much?
You dont like free speech.
You dont like elections.
You dont like any form of government.
You dont like the bill of rights of the constitution.

Why stay?

woke liberalism:

ML3qYHWRIZk

Sanders was chucked by DNC 2 years later and trump won after 3 and then the parties flipped lol!

now take your susan bee anthony boomer "thIs Is ThE gREaTest CouNTry" back to fox news where it was 4 years ago.

[Gravydoo II]

Are they not contributing to the supply chain failures causing prices to rise in the USA by blocking the goods from coming into the country?

You guys were crying about that and showing all those empty shelves..

[ChanterGuy]

90% of truckers in Canada are vaccinated. 90% of the protesters, from the pictures are Trumpers from the US, looking for something to cry about. Im sure the drivers that are vaccinated would have no problem taking over the routes of the unvaccinated so goods keep moving between Canada and the US (Since the pay is higher).

And to those trucker protesters who pissed on a war memorial. You need drawn and quartered.

[Jibartik]

No dont you remember your own sides made up arguments? Thats what the biden admin was making up as an excuse for the inflation you and horza were reeeing wasn't happening on these boards that turned out to be happening.

[starkind]

So should we invade Canada and liberate those xboxes in time for Xmas 22 yet?

[Knowledge]

USA 178th in infant mortality. It's hard to get born here. 61 million abortions.

[Ooloo]

Are they not contributing to the supply chain failures causing prices to rise in the USA by blocking the goods from coming into the country?

You guys were crying about that and showing all those empty shelves..

You mean the supply chain issues that have been going on for nearly a year? The trucker convoy isn't even two weeks old. You're just desperate to smear these truckers for ANY reason.

If you don't support these people, just stop calling yourself any sort of liberal already. All your flowery language about how much you care about the downtrodden working class suddenly goes out the window because of a political inconvenience? As usual the modern left has no actual principles, they just wear whatever hat fits at the time.

[walfreyydo]

If you bring guns to "peacefully protest" can we still really call it protesting or do we just call it what it is: intimidation threats to violence?

[walfreyydo]

Last I heard they are planning a convoy in the USA now to head to state capitols and DC - January 6th part deux?

[BlackBellamy]

If I lived in those apartments ...

...I would be hanging out with the truckers. I would be making friends, seeing how I could help people out. I have real good earplugs, noise don't bother me. I mean I can always drive 20 mins out and go to a park and relax and watch the polar bears play with the seals and the huskies and eskimos or whatever.

What I love about this entire thing is that it completely shows the ideological bankruptcy of the left.

The left is supposed to care about the common man. The worker. The fucking proletariat!

Not one! Not a single one has come out with anything but condemnation. As a matter of fact a sworn die-hard leftist drove his truck into the protest hoping to injure people https://nypost.com/2022/02/08/canada-trucker-protest-hit-and-run-suspect-is-antifa-punk-rocker-david-zegarac/ because the left is smearing the truckers as instruments of far right fascism.

A man scrawled a swastika over a the Canadian flag as a protest. When you do that you obviously mean your country is turning into a fascist state. But Trudeau has mentioned the swastika flag a dozen times, in every speech. He knows what the swastika was, what it meant on that flag, but he will twist that keep repeating it over and over to smear the workers, the common people. Why? It's what leftist do now because the hunger for power is overwhelming and authority cannot be challenged.

Here is a picture of some people waving a swastika around:

https://i.imgur.com/k76XqVj.jpg

These fucking fascist scum are protesting the US bombing Cambodia in the early 70s. Ha ha I'm kidding they're high school students and they're not fascists, they're obviously making a political statement by transposing a swastika over the American flag to denote their belief that the country they love is turning into an authoritarian state.

This is the exact same thing a lone individual did at the truck protest. But of course that means the truckers are all right-wing Nazis. Trudeau is not stupid, he is perfectly well aware of that, of the history of protests, what defacing a flag means. But he will stand there and incite people to drive cars into crowds with his lies.

Who the fuck supports the left? I mean they shit on the working people like it's going out of style. They hate business, they hate conservatives, they hate the working people, they fucking hate everyone not exactly like them. Who are they trying to appeal to, children and the retarded? Is that going to work long term?

[walfreyydo]

Wow Trexller just went full on domestic terrorist

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/kNGPo6d.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/tCrk7el.jpeg
Tldr
https://i.imgur.com/u8hUULd.jpeg

[unsunghero]

If the people did decide to walk a protest to the capital again, it’s unlikely they would get anywhere close

DC has spent tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions, of dollars on security for the capital since Jan 6th, which has all been pretty much a waste as no group has come close to trying anything again

So look at it like a double win if they try. Not only would those millions and millions of dollars in security not have been wasted, but they would also get nowhere with the attempt

[walfreyydo]

The left is supposed to care about the common man. The worker. The fucking proletariat!

And what if the common man has been duped by propaganda which is pumped 24/7, has been intentionally left uneducated and unable to see through said propaganda. Has been convinced to support causes that directly contradict their own self interest through manufactured grievance and controversies on said 24/7 propaganda?

Yeah, thats whats going on. The policies of the left have always by and large been targeted at helping the lower and middle class.

The policies of the right... oh wait, there are none... only misdirected anger, and opposition to supporting the policies meant to help the lower and middle class.

Please give me an example of a current GOP policy platform which would actually make your life and livelihood better, Ill wait.

[starkind]

^This 100%

The "disruptive" "protests" "threats" vehicular assaults etc and fear mongering is all this. 100%

Although I don't think they should force truckers 2 be vaxed it's just not worth it because our society is collapsing we have actually bigger problems then the shit ppl are pissing and fighting over.

[starkind]

How do the politicians of today wake up and say "oh my masks and vaccines, this is the hill I really wanted to die on today ".

Foreign agents r definitely taking advantage of it.

[Ooloo]

And what if the common man has been duped by propaganda which is pumped 24/7, has been intentionally left uneducated and unable to see through said propaganda. Has been convinced to support causes that directly contradict their own self interest through manufactured grievance and controversies on said 24/7 propaganda?

Yeah, thats whats going on. The policies of the left have always by and large been targeted at helping the lower and middle class.

The policies of the right... oh wait, there are none... only misdirected anger, and opposition to supporting the policies meant to help the lower and middle class.

Please give me an example of a current GOP policy platform which would actually make your life and livelihood better, Ill wait.

Haha yeah firing truckers if they don't get a completely unproven and impotent vaccine with no long term safety data sure is sticking up for the working class!

All the red states had much better unemployment rates and in most cases way lower covid death rates during the pandemic. It's not even close. If that doesn't clearly demonstrate a deficiency with left wing governance, I'm not sure what will.

It's the most arrogant fucking attitude ever btw to be like "See, I WANT to support those truckers, but they're so dumb and uneducated, unlike me, that they're voting against their own interests! (I really hate that cliche btw)"!! Many educated people are fuckin morons, especially given the state of modern higher ed outside of like highly disciplined STEM fields. That's not some kind of unassailable credential anymore.

[unsunghero]

Haha yeah firing truckers if they don't get a completely unproven and impotent vaccine with no long term safety data sure is sticking up for the working class!

All the red states had much better unemployment rates and in most cases way lower covid death rates during the pandemic. It's not even close. If that doesn't clearly demonstrate a deficiency with left wing governance, I'm not sure what will.

It's the most arrogant fucking attitude ever btw to be like "See, I WANT to support those truckers, but they're so dumb and uneducated, unlike me, that they're voting against their own interests! (I really hate that cliche btw)"!! Many educated people are fuckin morons, especially given the state of modern higher ed outside of like highly disciplined STEM fields. That's not some kind of unassailable credential anymore.

Yeah, calling people dumb is dicey because they have to be just barely dumb enough to still not be considered disadvantaged by it, but not so dumb where calling them dumb becomes ableism. Because ableism is a thing now, apparently, at least it’s a new thing people have discovered to be offended about. Implying that someone is more able-bodied (and our brain is just a part of our body) than another is discriminatory

Also, if equity truly is a thing, and in the left’s utopia it is, then those truckers should be making the exact same amount of money as a Harvard grad aeronautical engineer. Because to be truly equitable, everyone regardless of their intelligence or education should end up the same in life

[walfreyydo]

@Trexller

Here is one of "your team" punching a rotten tree
https://twitter.com/madcawdisease/status/1400820480131612682?s=20&t=EtrdGe5qgKYqLdVbhz7w-A

[walfreyydo]

It's the most arrogant fucking attitude ever btw to be like "See, I WANT to support those truckers, but they're so dumb and uneducated, unlike me, that they're voting against their own interests! (I really hate that cliche btw)"!! Many educated people are fuckin morons, especially given the state of modern higher ed outside of like highly disciplined STEM fields. That's not some kind of unassailable credential anymore.

Propaganda is a powerful drug my friend.

Please provide the GOP policies which will improve the daily lives of Americans. Not providing this will only prove my point to be true.

The GOP's platform is to misdirect and dupe the "common folk" and unfortunately many have fallen for it.

[walfreyydo]

Also, if equity truly is a thing, and in the left’s utopia it is, then those truckers should be making the exact same amount of money as a Harvard grad aeronautical engineer. Because to be truly equitable, everyone regardless of their intelligence or education should end up the same in life

Not if you are too lazy to go to school, study, put in the hard work to learn a highly technical skill (because many Americans "hate school"). I dont know anyone on the left that doesn't think hard work and learning a skill deserves a higher reward than those who dont. We aren't communists as you've been led to believe.

Also, many truckers make more than many college educated people. My buddy pulls down $80k per year easy. More than I make.

[Reiwa]

You mean the supply chain issues that have been going on for nearly a year?

Truckers been flexin' for awhile now.

[unsunghero]

Not if you are too lazy to go to school, study, put in the hard work to learn a highly technical skill (because many Americans "hate school"). I dont know anyone on the left that doesn't think hard work and learning a skill deserves a higher reward than those who dont. We aren't communists as you've been led to believe.

Also, many truckers make more than many college educated people. My buddy pulls down $80k per year easy. More than I make.

So if I want to work at McDonald’s all my life, have no drive or ambition to better my education or skillset, and live a quality of life in America that is better than 90% of planet earth, yet only make $12/hour, is that fair?

Doesn’t the left’s version of fair mean people should make enough to some arbitrary standard of living regardless of their “laziness”?

[Reiwa]

...I would be hanging out with the truckers. I would be making friends, seeing how I could help people out. I have real good earplugs, noise don't bother me. I mean I can always drive 20 mins out and go to a park and relax and watch the polar bears play with the seals and the huskies and eskimos or whatever.

What I love about this entire thing is that it completely shows the ideological bankruptcy of the left.

The left is supposed to care about the common man. The worker. The fucking proletariat!

Not one! Not a single one has come out with anything but condemnation. As a matter of fact a sworn die-hard leftist drove his truck into the protest hoping to injure people https://nypost.com/2022/02/08/canada-trucker-protest-hit-and-run-suspect-is-antifa-punk-rocker-david-zegarac/ because the left is smearing the truckers as instruments of far right fascism.

A man scrawled a swastika over a the Canadian flag as a protest. When you do that you obviously mean your country is turning into a fascist state. But Trudeau has mentioned the swastika flag a dozen times, in every speech. He knows what the swastika was, what it meant on that flag, but he will twist that keep repeating it over and over to smear the workers, the common people. Why? It's what leftist do now because the hunger for power is overwhelming and authority cannot be challenged.

Here is a picture of some people waving a swastika around:

https://i.imgur.com/k76XqVj.jpg

These fucking fascist scum are protesting the US bombing Cambodia in the early 70s. Ha ha I'm kidding they're high school students and they're not fascists, they're obviously making a political statement by transposing a swastika over the American flag to denote their belief that the country they love is turning into an authoritarian state.

This is the exact same thing a lone individual did at the truck protest. But of course that means the truckers are all right-wing Nazis. Trudeau is not stupid, he is perfectly well aware of that, of the history of protests, what defacing a flag means. But he will stand there and incite people to drive cars into crowds with his lies.

Who the fuck supports the left? I mean they shit on the working people like it's going out of style. They hate business, they hate conservatives, they hate the working people, they fucking hate everyone not exactly like them. Who are they trying to appeal to, children and the retarded? Is that going to work long term?

Is this consistent with blaming Joey B for bare shelves and price rises?

[walfreyydo]

So if I want to work at McDonald’s all my life, have no drive or ambition to better my education or skillset, and live a quality of life in America that is better than 90% of planet earth, yet only make $12/hour, is that fair?

Doesn’t the left’s version of fair mean people should make enough to some arbitrary standard of living regardless of their “laziness”?

Your premise is flawed: no one "wants" to work at McDonalds their whole life making $12/hr. They simply have no options to improve their own well-being, and the left is the only party trying to change that.

What party is advocating $15/hr for that worker? What party is trying to make a 2 yr college degree the standard?

It certainly isnt the GOP, and as a matter of fact, the GOP and their big business allies are the ones using scare tactics to say that $15/hr is too hard of a burden on business owners, or will raise the price of a Big Mac by $0.50.

Smoke and mirrors dude, people gotta see through it

[walfreyydo]

And no, keeping the minimum wage at $7.50/hr is not fair. The policies of the left are whole-heartedly behind developing a minimum standard of living, while also promoting education and development of human capital. The push for $15/hr is a representation of that. The push for free 2 year education is a representation of that (giving people an avenue to improve upon that $15/hr, if they so choose).

Are we now trying to conflate that belief with communism or some socialized "everyone should make the same amount of money regardless of education and development of high demand skillsets"?

[unsunghero]

Your premise is flawed: no one "wants" to work at McDonalds their whole life making $12/hr. They simply have no options to improve their own well-being, and the left is the only party trying to change that.

What party is advocating $15/hr for that worker? What party is trying to make a 2 yr college degree the standard?

It certainly isnt the GOP, and as a matter of fact, the GOP and their big business allies are the ones using scare tactics to say that $15/hr is too hard of a burden on business owners, or will raise the price of a Big Mac by $0.50.

Smoke and mirrors dude, people gotta see through it

You can’t know what all people want. If you are going to suppose what they want then I can as well, I can suppose they want to work where they are because it’s familiar and comfortable and doesn’t require any extra effort learning a skill or going to school. I can suppose they don’t like school and don’t want to do it

I can even suppose that some people don’t want to work at all. There’s millions of people on Reddit who have said as much

[Reiwa]

Your premise is flawed: no one "wants" to work at McDonalds their whole life making $12/hr. They simply have no options to improve their own well-being, and the left is the only party trying to change that.

What party is advocating $15/hr for that worker? What party is trying to make a 2 yr college degree the standard?

It certainly isnt the GOP, and as a matter of fact, the GOP and their big business allies are the ones using scare tactics to say that $15/hr is too hard of a burden on business owners, or will raise the price of a Big Mac by $0.50.

Smoke and mirrors dude, people gotta see through it

And no, keeping the minimum wage at $7.50/hr is not fair. The policies of the left are whole-heartedly behind developing a minimum standard of living, while also promoting education and development of human capital.

Are we now trying to conflate that belief with communism or some socialized "everyone should make the same amount of money regardless of education and development of high demand skillsets"?

There is some grim comedy in Conservatives suddenly championing workers' rights the moment they hoist a swastika flag. :p

[rebeccablack]

https://i.imgur.com/cMvpe3J.png
say what you want about this guy, at least he took a stand

[walfreyydo]

You can’t know what all people want. If you are going to suppose what they want then I can as well, I can suppose they want to work where they are because it’s familiar and comfortable and doesn’t require any extra effort learning a skill or going to school. I can suppose they don’t like school and don’t want to do it

I can even suppose that some people don’t want to work at all. There’s millions of people on Reddit who have said as much

Yes exactly! But those people still deserve to be able to not live in abject poverty, even IF they dont have a desire to improve upon their situation, wouldnt you agree (with the expectation that you need to contribute to society if able bodied)? No one is promoting for people to get paid for sitting on their ass, and if you believe that you are wrong.

Thats what the policy platform of the left is - its not free handouts, its simply allowing people to live in dignity and not be exploited by large corporations who dont want to pay a living wage.

Again, if people have the motivation to want to move beyond that baseline quality of life, they need to have the opportunities to do so, would you also agree?

[unsunghero]

Yes exactly! But those people still deserve to be able to not live in abject poverty, even IF they dont have a desire to improve upon their situation, wouldnt you agree (with the expectation that you need to contribute to society if able bodied)? No one is promoting for people to get paid for sitting on their ass, and if you believe that you are wrong.

Thats what the policy platform of the left is - its not free handouts, its simply allowing people to live in dignity and not be exploited by large corporations who dont want to pay a living wage.

Again, if people have the motivation to want to move beyond that baseline quality of life, they need to have the opportunities to do so, would you also agree?

You mentioned $7, minimum wage in my state is $12.80. So you said that people who are “lazy” deserve less money because we aren’t communists, but also enough money to live comfortably and independently because we aren’t communists

That’s my point, the left has some arbitrary standard of living, despite the fact that even the poor in America are living more comfortably than 90% of the planet. And this standard of living varies depends on who you ask. And we are going to use daddy government to enforce that standard of living for everyone

[unsunghero]

This is how I see it, I worked minimum wage for retail when I was 18 years old making whatever it was back then, I think it was like $8/hour. It wasn’t enough to live independently on and those jobs were mostly worked by high school age young adults like me who were either living with their parents or moved out living with peers involving many people to a apartment or home splitting the rent to make it affordable. I’ve personally lived in both those situations

Now our culture has shifted to saying these zero-skill entry level jobs should be worked by adults of any age, not just young adults, and should always pay enough to live independently on. I’m sorry but if you are a middle-aged adult with the skillset of a teenager (aka none), you should have the lifestyle of a teenager, which is living with family or with a lot of your peers all sharing a dingy apartment splitting the rent. You shouldn’t live the life of an independent adult when you have the skillset of a child

But I am all for free college, free healthcare, free houses, if it can be done without money printer go brrr or over-taxing people or parties that are heavily taxed already

[starkind]

You mentioned $7, minimum wage in my state is $12.80. So you said that people who are “lazy” deserve less money because we aren’t communists, but also enough money to live comfortably and independently because we aren’t communists

That’s my point, the left has some arbitrary standard of living, despite the fact that even the poor in America are living more comfortably than 90% of the planet. And this standard of living varies depends on who you ask. And we are going to use daddy government to enforce that standard of living for everyone

You can't.

It won't ever work.

People should have the opportunity to raise that standard tho if they abide the law and contribute and raise their own standards.

I did the work. I was in the military. I made the right choices. I raised my standards. I sat and petitioned in the courts. Went to school. Applied for job after job. And in myife time that opportunity wasn't there for me. I've seen it happen in others.

There are no opportunities in America. There are pedigrees and lawyers.

This will lead to bloodshed. Even though "we don't want it to".

Drugs, homeless, civil decay, riots, hyperpartisinship, tribalism. Fascism. It's all just a symptom. The cause runs deep and neither party will adress that.

[unsunghero]

You can't.

It won't ever work.

People should have the opportunity to raise that standard tho if they abide the law and contribute and raise their own standards.

I did the work. I was in the military. I made the right choices. I raised my standards. I sat and petitioned in the courts. Went to school. Applied for job after job. And in myife time that opportunity wasn't there for me. I've seen it happen in others.

There are no opportunities in America. There are pedigrees and lawyers.

This will lead to bloodshed. Even though "we don't want it to".

Drugs, homeless, civil decay, riots, hyperpartisinship, tribalism. Fascism. It's all just a symptom. The cause runs deep and neither party will adress that.

I’m all for equality of opportunity, just not of outcome

[Patriam1066]

Greenland could be a new frontier for everyone in America who can’t cut it or whines. Just saying, that’s a lot of real estate as the planet warms

[Reiwa]

I’m sorry but if you are a middle-aged adult with the skillset of a teenager (aka none), you should have the lifestyle of a teenager, which is living with family or with a lot of your peers all sharing a dingy apartment splitting the rent. You shouldn’t live the life of an independent adult when you have the skillset of a child

Easy for you to say when you're not the person who has to live that way.

'Should' is a monstrous word as we transition to a service and information economy.

[starkind]

I’m all for equality of opportunity, just not of outcome

Ya I get what u mean.

We should pay attention to the warning signs now tho. That these types of things are happening. Store shelves going bare. Workers that should be fired being held on board just cuz no one else will take the jobs... it's not good.

I would have taken a lot of those jobs "I was not qualified for though". Tho that is b.s. a lot of jobs I was over qualified for I just didn't have the right "papers".

[Reiwa]

Dulce et decorum est pro Patricians servus

[unsunghero]

Easy for you to say when you're not the person who has to live that way.

'Should' is a monstrous word as we transition to a service and information economy.

I understand that not everyone is set up the same way in life. Life isn’t fair and people with 2 supportive parents who are financially well off will likely have an easier start in life than those that don’t

But also, we have to suffer the consequences of our own choices in life, and passing on higher education/tradeskills or dropping out of school or picking a degree in a field with limited opportunity due to not researching ahead of time are some of those consequences

Success or failure is not a singular event. It is a campaign of choices

[Reiwa]

I understand that not everyone is set up the same way in life. Life isn’t fair and people with 2 supportive parents who are financially well off will likely have an easier start in life than those that don’t

But also, we have to suffer the consequences of our own choices in life, and passing on higher education/tradeskills or dropping out of school or picking a degree in a field with limited opportunity due to not researching ahead of time are some of those consequences

Success or failure is not a singular event. It is a campaign of choices

Others should be punished and you should be rewarded.

Tell me brother, what do you do for your comfort and vittles? What is the exchange?

[unsunghero]

Others should be punished and you should be rewarded.

Tell me brother, what do you do for your comfort and vittles? What is the exchange?

If you make poor life choices you ARE punished, it’s not a should or should not. We can’t deny reality as much as Dems would like. If I choose to drink alcohol everyday there is no question of whether my liver should get cirrhosis

Your life is a reflection of the choices you make

[Reiwa]

If you make poor life choices you ARE punished, it’s not a should or should not. We can’t deny reality as much as Dems would like. If I choose to drink alcohol everyday there is no question of whether my liver should get cirrhosis

Your life is a reflection of the choices you make

What do you trade for survival?

[unsunghero]

What do you trade for survival?

As mammals our time and effort. Thousands of years ago, if we didn’t do that well we simply died. And in many poor underdeveloped countries that is still how things are. Now in America, we have safety nets of things like free healthcare and free food stamp programs to keep humans who are unable to provide for themselves alive

But if we make poor choices, we are not going to live at the same standard as others who don’t. However like I mentioned before, we will still by virtue of being in America are living better than most of the planet. Considerably light years ahead. Having access to clean fresh water and sanitation alone is a standard of living far beyond what many in other parts of the world have

[starkind]

Nothing is free m8 not even that free health care you speak of.

And it often is simply palliative allowing the corporation providing that "free" Healthcare to continue charging for services while the patient slowly flounders and eventually dies.

[Jibartik]

afaik the mandates are lifted, and the truckers won...

but... they are not leaving... so what are they after now?

Or are they leaving today?

[Reiwa]

As mammals our time and effort. Thousands of years ago, if we didn’t do that well we simply died. And in many poor underdeveloped countries that is still how things are. Now in America, we have safety nets of things like free healthcare and free food stamp programs to keep humans who are unable to provide for themselves alive

But if we make poor choices, we are not going to live at the same standard as others who don’t. However like I mentioned before, we will still by virtue of being in America are living better than most of the planet. Considerably light years ahead. Having access to clean fresh water and sanitation alone is a standard of living far beyond what many in other parts of the world have

And what do the workers you say 'should' have to live with roommates trade?

[unsunghero]

And what do the workers you say 'should' have to live with roommates trade?

Nothing? Not following u here

[starkind]

Holding ppl hostage or allowing others to hold people hostage is always going to end badly.

[walfreyydo]

You mentioned $7, minimum wage in my state is $12.80. So you said that people who are “lazy” deserve less money because we aren’t communists, but also enough money to live comfortably and independently because we aren’t communists

That’s my point, the left has some arbitrary standard of living, despite the fact that even the poor in America are living more comfortably than 90% of the planet. And this standard of living varies depends on who you ask. And we are going to use daddy government to enforce that standard of living for everyone



Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr. Some states have raised it, such as yours (states rights). Other states, such as mine, still has it set to $7.25.

So for context, we will go by the lowest common denominator which is $7.25 (I had mistakenly said $7.50)

[walfreyydo]

I’m all for equality of opportunity, just not of outcome

Nobody is and if you've been led to believe that (or of that opinion) I am sorry, but you are mistaken.

[Reiwa]

Nothing? Not following u here

You understood the same question a moment ago about yourself. :o

What are they trading for survival?

[walfreyydo]

America is the land of opportunity, not of handouts.

The problem is that we see increasing barriers to that opportunity because politicians (and right wing media) choose to portray those opportunities as handouts.

Not raising the $7.25 federal minimum wage is one of them (not raised since 2009).

Opposing lower tuition prices or free 2 year education for all is one of them.

Opposing universal pre-K education is one of them.

Opposing Medicare negotiating drug prices is one of them.

The list goes on and on....

Raising people out of poverty and giving them opportunity comes in many different forms and if people can just step away from their self-centric perspective, turn off the opinion shows, they would see the many indirect benefits to everyone: lower crime, lower substance abuse/suicide rates, higher GDP, higher consumer spending, responsible decision making, better economy/investment return rates, etc etc

I would totally pay $0.50 more on a Big Mac if it means I get $1 back in indirect returns...

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/kFbbzjs.png

[Jibartik]

maybe the truckers are not leaving because really theyre being organized by soros to create more disruptions in infrastructure and supply so the collapse and communist rabble takeover happens sooner.

[Jibartik]

America is the land of opportunity, not of handouts.

The problem is that we see increasing barriers to that opportunity because politicians (and right wing media) choose to portray those opportunities as handouts.

Not raising the $7.25 federal minimum wage is one of them (not raised since 2009).

Opposing lower tuition prices or free 2 year education for all is one of them.

Opposing universal pre-K education is one of them.

Opposing Medicare negotiating drug prices is one of them.

The list goes on and on....

Raising people out of poverty and giving them opportunity comes in many different forms and if people can just step away from their self-centric perspective, turn off the opinion shows, they would see the many indirect benefits to everyone: lower crime, higher GDP, higher consumer spending, etc etc

If you think about it, this is the first goverment on earth managed by the people.

And yet for some reason the people are getting fucked.

Are people fucking horrible or what.

[Reiwa]

America is the land of opportunity, not of handouts.

The problem is that we see increasing barriers to that opportunity because politicians (and right wing media) choose to portray those opportunities as handouts.

Not raising the $7.25 federal minimum wage is one of them (not raised since 2009).

Opposing lower tuition prices or free 2 year education for all is one of them.

Opposing universal pre-K education is one of them.

Opposing Medicare negotiating drug prices is one of them.

The list goes on and on....

Raising people out of poverty and giving them opportunity comes in many different forms and if people can just step away from their self-centric perspective, turn off the opinion shows, they would see the many indirect benefits to everyone: lower crime, lower substance abuse/suicide rates, higher GDP, higher consumer spending, responsible decision making, better economy/investment return rates, etc etc

I would totally pay $0.50 more on a Big Mac if it means I get $1 in indirect returns...

I have the impression the health/medical industry is heavily subsidized by the State. :eek:

[walfreyydo]

If you think about it, this is the first goverment on earth managed by the people.

And yet for some reason the people are getting fucked.

Are people fucking horrible or what.

Corruption man.. corruption.

[Jibartik]

Corruption man.. corruption.

This is just a thought experiment.

Maybe, maybe things are actually at the best they can be, based on our time on earth.

Think about it, when was it was "better" for the workers..?

Like, after posted that I thought, well in the 1800s they would just wall the people up into the building behind the bricks if they had a problem with working conditions.

If I didnt like the competition, Id just hire a pinkerton to kill them.

Now, it's not nearly as cut throat, but it's still not easy for sure...

Maybe we're just on the long, long, road to tranquility...

Can you think of a time it was better to be a working class citizen of any territory on earth in any time?

[walfreyydo]

We are never going to be able to stop people from acting on the impulses of selfishness and greed, we need guiderails (laws, regulations, etc) to mitigate those human imperfections.

On the same token you will also always have people who are lazy, dont want to contribute and suck off the teat of the system. The fact is, those types of behaviors people learn from their environment.

Being poor has a whole host of other socio-economic problems that come with it: substance abuse, domestic violence, mental and physical health issues, irresponsible decision making. Giving people opportunities is the only way to break that cycle. The majority of people in that situation would gladly take any opportunity to get out of it (the military for instance). Some of the issues people face, such as those listed, are barriers to them actually getting their lives together, as much as they would want to.

I will always be a believer that people by and large are willing to work hard and improve their life situation

[walfreyydo]

This is just a thought experiment.

Maybe, maybe things are actually at the best they can be, based on our time on earth.

Think about it, when was it was "better" for the workers..?

Like, after posted that I thought, well in the 1800s they would just wall the people up into the building behind the bricks if they had a problem with working conditions.

If I didnt like the competition, Id just hire a pinkerton to kill them.

Now, it's not nearly as cut throat, but it's still not easy for sure...

Maybe we're just on the long, long, road to tranquility...

Can you think of a time it was better to be a working class citizen of any territory on earth in any time?


I mean, do you think we should be going back to those times? There are some in this country that do... Just because things are better than they were doesnt mean we should stop the quest to continually improve.. Thats how we got to where we are and we need to keep that momentum.

[Jibartik]

No im just sayin that "things are not getting worse" but instead they are continuing to slowly get better.

What I am saying is that if you think life sucks now, and that it can be better, you're asking for something that society has never been able to provide in any manor whatsoever.

So instead of feeling like you're getting ripped off, instead be thankful you live now and not 50 years ago where you would be going to war in a draft.

Notice the progress we're making and instead of thinking its all bad, realize, that it's all good?

Maybe right now its not great, but its the best it can be, and all we can do is continue slowly moving the ball forward, which we've been doing, instead of "rolling it backwards" like everyone thinks.

[unsunghero]

You understood the same question a moment ago about yourself. :o

What are they trading for survival?

People seem to forget that your wage is a negotiation between your skillset (which is the only leverage you have), versus what the employer values that skillset

This negotiation is not to ensure that the person makes enough to not have to be resourceful and live with roommates (or in a shelter if they don’t or can’t). It’s not to ensure that they can afford to own an iPhone. It’s what the employer values the skills that essentially a child could have, if you have none

[Jibartik]

We are never going to be able to stop people from acting on the impulses of selfishness and greed, we need guiderails

we have them:

https://i.imgur.com/U7S6j9m.png

Basically is the bill of rights.

The problem is even the best people in the world, when cornered, dont give one shit about them.

[Reiwa]

People seem to forget that your wage is a negotiation between your skillset (which is the only leverage you have), versus what the employer values that skillset

This negotiation is not to ensure that the person makes enough to not have to be resourceful and live with roommates (or in a shelter if they don’t or can’t). It’s not to ensure that they can afford to own an iPhone. It’s what the employer values the skills that essentially a child could have, if you have none

Just tell us,,, what the trade is. You seem reluctant to say it outloud.

Curious!

[starkind]

People seem to forget that your wage is a negotiation between your skillset (which is the only leverage you have), versus what the employer values that skillset

This negotiation is not to ensure that the person makes enough to not have to be resourceful and live with roommates (or in a shelter if they don’t or can’t). It’s not to ensure that they can afford to own an iPhone. It’s what the employer values the skills that essentially a child could have, if you have none

I'm still a pretty skilled marksman. It's kind of useless tho since I'm not eligible for the gezpacho.

:o

[starkind]

Unshinghero is a social worker/ helps police. Probably some psyche nursing stuff.

Fairly valuable to society. Full of himself tho :p

Maybe that's just a cover for their assassination jerb tho.

Skills and brainwashing requirements are both pretty high and unique in either case.

[walfreyydo]

we have them:

Basically is the bill of rights.

The bill of rights has protections against fraud? insane prescription prices? predatory lending? pollution of our air and water? food packaging and production standards?


I guess we dont need any regulations for any of those things then... I mean, why even have a legislative branch? All we should need is just the courts and the constitution then?

[Jibartik]

If yall knew how much more the guy sitting next to you was getting you'd drive to ottowa.

[Reiwa]

If yall knew how much more the guy sitting next to you was getting you'd drive to ottowa.

[starkind]

Lol I ain't mad jib.

Just chipping at the rocks till I can walk down to the store and cook my family dinner again.

[Jibartik]

The bill of rights has protections against fraud? insane prescription prices? predatory lending? pollution of our air and water? food packaging and production standards?


I guess we dont need any regulations for any of those things then...

here's an interesting thing about animals.

When cornered, laws mean nothing. 80% of humans will even kill their loved ones to escape their own death.

Regulation, laws, none of that matters.

There is a VERY REAL philosophical discussion about how capitalism, cannot work without the god fearing religion that all the creators of capitalism were a part of.

The fear of god, eternal damnation, it's the only thing that you cant escape, uneless you just chose not to believe in it.

Just like any other regulation, it's a law that you can only escape if chose not to believe in it.

Corruption, just like you said, corrupts regulation.

The only thing you cant cheat is eternal damnation... unless you convince the people not to believe in it.

Then you can do whatever you want to them.

Our system is collapsing because we're all becoming nihilists, and a nihilist in the capitalist system, well you figure out what that means...

[Jibartik]

Lol I ain't mad jib.

Just chipping at the rocks till I can walk down to the store and cook my family dinner again.

well you're a star child. Takes a lifetime to reach that status :o

[starkind]

here's an interesting thing about animals.

When cornered, laws mean nothing. 80% of humans will even kill their loved ones to escape their own death.

Regulation, laws, none of that matters.

There is a VERY REAL philosophical discussion about how capitalism, cannot work without the god fearing religion that all the creators of capitalism were a part of.

The fear of god, eternal damnation, it's the only thing that you cant escape, uneless you just chose not to believe in it.

Just like any other regulation, it's a law that you can only escape if chose not to believe in it.

Corruption, just like you said, corrupts regulation.

The only thing you cant cheat is eternal damnation... unless you convince the people not to believe in it.

Then you can do whatever you want to them.

Our system is collapsing because we're all becoming nihilists, and a nihilist in the capitalist system, well you figure out what that means...

Pandoras box is wide open here. You're not putting it back without Yahweh and Enki.

I'm not a died in the wool killer. Most people aren't. Most people can be pushed there.

Religion helps. It doesn't work on people like me tho.

As much as I want that Jewish nullo commune. It's just the brand and trademark. It needs freedom and non interference from the government to work.

[starkind]

well you're a star child. Takes a lifetime to reach that status :o

😇🤗🥰

[Jibartik]

Religion helps. It doesn't work on people like me tho.

Oh yeah, that's why god killed everyone to start over, but this time he's letting us go all the way until we kill ourselves, at which point he'll show up to say I told you so...

And we can go back to treating each other with true respect, out of desire to join the secret community in the sky.

[Jibartik]

CNN is doing a bit right now on the telly about how this guy was a trump supporter and he was "addicted to trump", calls the movement a cult.

But the bit they were doing before this was how trump was being harsh on hillary for emails, and now he's suddenly ok with burning documents...

And im like, this is 30 minuets youre talking about a former president like he's a god...

Not sure it's the supporters that are in the cult and pretty sure it's the other way around.

[Reiwa]

And im like, this is 30 minuets youre talking about a former president like he's a god...

Not sure it's the supporters that are in the cult and pretty sure it's the other way around.

https://i.imgur.com/64qK6CP.jpeg

a·poth·e·o·sis
/əˌpäTHēˈōsəs/

noun

the elevation of someone to divine status; deification

[Reiwa]

p72jJaYmLq8

[Gravydoo II]

So shutting down peoples jobs because they cant get material is making america great again..? Detroit and canada are linked by that bridge. Two automotive plants have been shut down, already. Over 20k out of work now. Nice work, retardicans.

[Gravydoo II]

Get a quote on the price of steel from a mill and ask them how long the quote is good for. You probably wont hear more than 24 hours. The price is rising so fast that in one day you could see it go up more then 10 or 20%

[Jibartik]

OHH NOO BOO HOOO THE INDUSTRILALISTS CANT GET STEEL OHH BOOO HOOOO

flipped demorat bush supporter problems.

[Gravydoo II]

Industrialist are the workers who wont be called into their jobs cause no steel...? Wow, you must be a fucking retard if you think the executives are working on the jobs on the floor.

[Disease]

So shutting down peoples jobs because they cant get material is making america great again..? Detroit and canada are linked by that bridge. Two automotive plants have been shut down, already. Over 20k out of work now. Nice work, retardicans.

These truckers are terrorists. Once the power grid shut down and people are freezing in the north, maybe people will start to care. It's actually sad we let people hold cities hostage because they don't want a vaccine.

[unsunghero]

Unshinghero is a social worker/ helps police. Probably some psyche nursing stuff.

Fairly valuable to society. Full of himself tho :p

Maybe that's just a cover for their assassination jerb tho.

Skills and brainwashing requirements are both pretty high and unique in either case.

Lol ty star

Well today I had some high ranking police administration member from Alberta, Canada shadowing all day so I could train him in how our mental health program here operates so they can implement it in Canada to relieve pressure on police from MH calls. Most of it was spent at a school doing a safety assessment on a 13yr old boy. Pic from the counselor’s office I took waiting on the parents to come in to talk to them first

The safety assessment is the shortest and easiest part, the other 2ish hours was talking to the parents to explore what is the function of this kid’s behavior, family dynamics, what are the contributing factors, and what can be done to prevent a similar situation from occurring in the future. Lots of parenting strategies discussed because these parents were receptive to these (many parents aren’t). I wish the officer admin could have gotten exposure to how we handle a psychotic and/or intoxicated adult but I can’t control what requests I happen to get

If star or anyone else is still reading, if anyone has cool/unusual date ideas I’m trying to figure something out. Sorry for the shift in gears, but I need to come up with one by sat, and I hate planning this stuff :(

[Jibartik]

Industrialist are the workers who wont be called into their jobs cause no steel...? Wow, you must be a fucking retard if you think the executives are working on the jobs on the floor.

lol you wana be job creator

tricke down economics right there.

[Jibartik]

These truckers are terrorists. Once the power grid shut down and people are freezing in the north, maybe people will start to care. It's actually sad we let people hold cities hostage because they don't want a vaccine.

if the power grid shuts down in Canada it will be because turdo is turning it off as a false flag to institute fascist ccp style liberal coup, which is what all the lefty terrorists want and the great American Canadian civil war will begin paving the way for a Russian takeover of every neighboring country to its west and Chinas expansion in every other direction.

[Horza]

if the power grid shuts down in Canada it will be because turdo is turning it off as a false flag to institute fascist ccp style liberal coup, which is what all the lefty terrorists want and the great American Canadian civil war will begin paving the way for a Russian takeover of every neighboring country to its west and Chinas expansion in every other direction.

Take your fucking meds.

[Jibartik]

I been right so far!

[Patriam1066]

Russia would get smoked by Finland, now as in the past

I’d love to see what the poles and Finns would do. How long would it take the Nordic countries to procure a nuclear bomb? Three months? Russia ain’t shit

[Patriam1066]

74% of Finns report willingness to fight for their country, highest % in Europe

hope this helps!

[Jibartik]

Pretty sure without the might of the west, every country would fold under the threat of being glassed after that rant Mr. Psychopath went on yesterday.

[Homesteaded]

Pretty sure without the might of the west, every country would fold under the threat of being glassed after that rant Mr. Psychopath went on yesterday.

What rant? Fill me in Pyramid man.

[Jibartik]

Putin saying he'll nuke every damn one of us and let god sort it out if Ukraine joins NATO or tries tot take back Crimea. (https://youtu.be/QXCKRTqB4-o)

[Reiwa]

Putin saying he'll nuke every damn one of us and let god sort it out if Ukraine joins NATO or tries tot take back Crimea. (https://youtu.be/QXCKRTqB4-o)

The 9th circle of hell is reserved for betrayers. Judas, Ganelon, Greenwald.

:)

[unsunghero]

Axe throwing, now that’s an interesting date idea. Hmmmm

I know of an axe throwing place

[Gravydoo II]

You know who nukes people? The ones who dont talk about it. If you have to say it, you wont do it.

Dates oldies but goodies, find a skating rink.
Simple park walk, nature trail, whatever.
facebook groups always advertise those paint and drinking things..

If you dont want to talk to her, take her to the movies. lol

You could also just ask her where she wants to go.

[unsunghero]

You know who nukes people? The ones who dont talk about it. If you have to say it, you wont do it.

Dates oldies but goodies, find a skating rink.
Simple park walk, nature trail, whatever.
facebook groups always advertise those paint and drinking things..

If you dont want to talk to her, take her to the movies. lol

You could also just ask her where she wants to go.

Ooh good ideas, already done a hike but skating rink is legit! U are frickin genius

Lol nah not movies, she fun to talk to

She suggested disc golf but I suck at throwing a frisbee, always have

[Jibartik]

im sure the generation thats right behind us is like lol what's a nuke? Seems like just a big bomb who cares.

[Reiwa]

I saw someone compare Canadian government restrictions to US state restrictions on the point of federalism earlier and it really tickled my cockles.

:o

[robayon]

A cockle is an edible, marine bivalve mollusc. Although many small edible bivalves are loosely called cockles, true cockles are species in the family Cardiidae.

[Jibartik]

Libtards: Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson Says It’s ‘Disturbing’ To See Kids Having Fun In Bouncy Castles At Trucker Protest (https://dailycaller.com/2022/02/07/ottawa-jim-watson-disturbing-kids-bouncy-castles-freedom-convoy/)

Also libtards:

https://i.imgur.com/OUc7sZc.png

[Horza]

Conservatives: actually terrorism is good when we're the ones doing it.

[TheBardo]

Conservatives: actually terrorism is good when we're the ones doing it.

[Reiwa]

A cockle is an edible, marine bivalve mollusc. Although many small edible bivalves are loosely called cockles, true cockles are species in the family Cardiidae.

It's idiomatic beeyotch. 'Cockles of my heart'. :)

[Jibartik]

Conservatives: actually terrorism is good when we're the ones doing it.

Cool opinions you have about reality, but I have photographs and videos of this:

liberals, burning down a city is peacefully protesting.

kids in bouncy castles is terrorism.

[Topgunben]

Cool opinions you have about reality, but I have photographs and videos of this:

liberals, burning down a city is peacefully protesting.

kids in bouncy castles is terrorism.

also why no one takes the MSM seriously anymore. Then they wonder why people are looking to alternative sources for information.

[Jibartik]

I cant wait for discussing the war in ukraine online is considered misinformation and gets you banned from social media.

[robayon]

if you still use social media at all you may be part of the whole problem of modern human communication

this forum doesn't count we don't know each other's real shit, supposedly

[Homesteaded]

if you still use social media at all you may be part of the whole problem of modern human communication

this forum doesn't count we don't know each other's real shit, supposedly

P99 OT is without a doubt, social media.

[robayon]

P99 OT is without a doubt, social media.ok, walter, go back to the circle k and play some blackjack until one of your kids calls again

[Mblake1981]

if you still use social media at all you may be part of the whole problem of modern human communication

this forum doesn't count we don't know each other's real shit, supposedly

P99 OT is without a doubt, social media.

*If you are referencing the Internet before the Iphone and social media apps, message boards are socializing but not the form smartphones would take. You know, the Internet that Mark Zuckerberg himself made safe for grandma to share photos on.

https://bhagpuss.blogspot.com/2019/04/there-is-no-mystery-left-everquest.html

One of the reasons frequently cited for the decline of the genre is the contemperaneous rise of social media. It's become a truism to assert that turn-of-the-century MMORPGs were the social media of their day. For many hundreds of thousands - millions - of people, playing an online game provided their first and for a while their only experience of talking in real time to friends and strangers around the world.

[Homesteaded]

ok, walter, go back to the circle k and play some blackjack until one of your kids calls again

Walter Sobchak?

[robayon]

Walter Sobchak?That's a pretty good Walter. But now I don't remember why I called you Walter.

[Gravydoo II]

Weird how they have "freedom" when it comes to stopping other people from going to work.. but when its their job which 90% of truckers are vaccinated, this is 10%, a crying minority of white people who demand special treatment.

They have the freedom to get a new job.

[unsunghero]

Weird how they have "freedom" when it comes to stopping other people from going to work.. but when its their job which 90% of truckers are vaccinated, this is 10%, a crying minority of white people who demand special treatment.

They have the freedom to get a new job.

They should anyway. I keep saying they are testing all this veyo auto-driving technology because they want self-driving cars and trucks. They’re going to need a person for a long while, but eventually esp if they stop having any issues it’s only a matter of time before they go fully auto

Truck driver is a job threatened by automation, just on a slower timeline. They should learn a tradeskill that requires a diagnostic to repair something, like plumbing, AC/heat repair, electrician, etc. It will be really hard if not impossible to automate a visual diagnostic on some apparatus, esp since it requires using hands and moving stuff around

[robayon]

They should anyway. I keep saying they are testing all this veyo auto-driving technology because they want self-driving cars and trucks. They’re going to need a person for a long while, but eventually esp if they stop having any issues it’s only a matter of time before they go fully auto

Truck driver is a job threatened by automation, just on a slower timeline. They should learn a tradeskill that requires a diagnostic to repair something, like plumbing, AC/heat repair, electrician, etc. It will be really hard if not impossible to automate a visual diagnostic on some apparatus, esp since it requires using hands and moving stuff aroundShould that new tradeskill these truckers hypothetically learn be subsidized in any way by taxpayers? Their employers who automate their jobs out of existence if the robots ever actually start driving those trucks safely?

I ask because mass retraining programs, at least in America, don't exactly have stellar results on the whole. Maybe the Canadians have done better in the past, idk.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/01/why-is-the-us-so-bad-at-protecting-workers-from-automation/549185/

[Elizondo]

Weird how they have "freedom" when it comes to stopping other people from going to work.. but when its their job which 90% of truckers are vaccinated, this is 10%, a crying minority of white people who demand special treatment.

They have the freedom to get a new job.

Pxw-qHGUlvQ

X5Wq5iYgQL8

9wm-Pcts5Uw

03K5RH89qkU

GEUM5u07Puc

[starkind]

TIL The British are the most functional culture lol.

[robayon]

TIL The British are the most functional culture lol.https://www.project1999.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=317&pictureid=1499

[Gravydoo II]

Whats his point? Stopping people from making a living is wrong. Thats the difference between us. You guys simply cant admit any fault or say "this was wrong" when it comes to your side.

So yeah, if people could not show up to work because one street was blocked for THREE WEEKS, fair enough they were wrong. Even 24 hours is wrong. Thats a paycheck.

Now lets block a border crossing highway aka national artery or two, shut down some manufacturing centers, cause economic hardship to thousands of people. Not the same thing, is it? Dumb fuck. Why is this so hard?

False equivocating doesnt make them equal, either. Let me shut down your entire workplace for 3 weeks or a month if you have one, then say "im not getting a shot" and see how you deal with it. You'd cry your fucking eyes out, demand a congressional investigation, demand hangings etc.

I cant expect anything else from a bunch of dumb pussies.. just misunderstanding the premise and posting pictures of CNN talking about a book one time to justify banning any book they want. Same shit, every time.

[Elizondo]

Whats his point? Stopping people from making a living is wrong. Thats the difference between us. You guys simply cant admit any fault or say "this was wrong" when it comes to your side.

So yeah, if people could not show up to work because one street was blocked for THREE WEEKS, fair enough they were wrong. Even 24 hours is wrong. Thats a paycheck.

Now lets block a border crossing highway aka national artery or two, shut down some manufacturing centers, cause economic hardship to thousands of people. Not the same thing, is it? Dumb fuck. Why is this so hard?

False equivocating doesnt make them equal, either. Let me shut down your entire workplace for 3 weeks or a month if you have one, then say "im not getting a shot" and see how you deal with it. You'd cry your fucking eyes out, demand a congressional investigation, demand hangings etc.

I cant expect anything else from a bunch of dumb pussies.. just misunderstanding the premise and posting pictures of CNN talking about a book one time to justify banning any book they want. Same shit, every time.

Truckers are heroes bro

Castro's bastard just tryin to be a tyrant

[Reiwa]

Whats his point? Stopping people from making a living is wrong.

That's exactly what Tromp did when he signed FOSTA/SESTA.

[Gravydoo II]

and if your work place produces things like dead bodies of unarmed people, burn it the fuck down.

[Elizondo]

folks want to make a living without government tyranny

It's the American way! ha

[Gravydoo II]

Truckers are heroes bro

Castro's bastard just tryin to be a tyrant

Heros fight stuff. Pussies park cars. They are glorified valets for goods. Staying awake for days on meth, omg such heroics. You would think that driving a car is heroic though. The bare minimum is "heroic" to you lol. Has rape daddy lowered your outlook on life that much? Pathetic.

[Elizondo]

Heros fight stuff. Pussies park cars. They are glorified valets for goods. Staying awake for days on meth, omg such heroics. You would think that driving a car is heroic though. The bare minimum is "heroic" to you lol. Has rape daddy lowered your outlook on life that much? Pathetic.

Confirmed biscuits wants to live in a fascist police state of misery and oppression but you can still flip hamburgers at McDonald's so it's all good

16998

[Elizondo]

QfvLcozLwtE

[Convict]

Weird how they have "freedom" when it comes to stopping other people from going to work.. but when its their job which 90% of truckers are vaccinated, this is 10%, a crying minority of white people who demand special treatment.

They have the freedom to get a new job.

what special treatment are they demanding? Not having tyrannical government mandates imposed on them? The freedom of choice of not being forced to have something created in a lab to be injected into their body? Only a crazy ass CNN spoonfed moron would believe that's considered "special treatment". Get a grip on reality.

[robayon]

and if your work place produces things like dead bodies of unarmed people, burn it the fuck down.Do you support the US military or the CIA

Because if so, I have some terrible news

[Patriam1066]

Do you support the US military or the CIA

Because if so, I have some terrible news

Have you moved to Kurdistan yet?

[Evia]

what special treatment are they demanding? Not having tyrannical government mandates imposed on them? The freedom of choice of not being forced to have something created in a lab to be injected into their body? Only a crazy ass CNN spoonfed moron would believe that's considered "special treatment". Get a grip on reality.

QFT.

These people just want to live their lives without gross government overreach. The mental gymnastics required to make villians of this movement is that they stop other people from going to their jobs and so therefore are the ACTUAL bad guys? That's your stance? Do you fucking hear yourself?

[robayon]

Have you moved to Kurdistan yet?Nope, never will, I love criticizing US imperialism internally only, it's typically the only way to survive doing so

[Gravydoo II]

Which country is free of people doing crazy shit, evil shit, retarded shit, like the Philippines right? Thats a right wing paradise.

I'm not a republican. I wouldnt just cut and run cause my daddy lost or i cant act like a pussy or asshole without some kind of repercussions social or legal. It can be worked on and from what ive seen there is a bit of hope on the horizon. Im not the type to just run away crying to another country cause I didnt get my way. Thats pussy ass shit and just typical republican thinking..

Only a real fucking pussy would quit their nation because at some point in their history a guy was pardoned for murder by a rapist. I mean, you'd have to be some kind of fucking sick person to think this is ok.
Oh look, a news story.

Rape daddy also pardoned four contractors with the private military firm founded by Erik Prince formerly known as Blackwater. The contractors carried out the Nisour Square massacre in Baghdad in 2007, when they shot to death 17 civilians while escorting a U.S. embassy convoy. Nicholas Slatten was sentenced to life in prison after he was convicted of murder by firing unprovoked on an Iraqi civilian. Slatten’s three colleagues were convicted of manslaughter and weapons charges. Trump has previously granted clemency to American service members who were accused or convicted of war crimes.


So yeah... Its more about choosing who you agree with over where you live. Evil people can be anywhere, they are not limited by the border of a nation. So I should just leave cause a bunch of morons elected a rapist who pardons war criminals? No, we can fix that.

We just cant fix the retardicans who elected them. They are forever broken as men and human beings.

[Elizondo]

Lefties in 2022

"Freedom is Terrorism"

[Gravydoo II]

I dont even have to read it. Its something retarded, probably 8 words. Something something "im a pussy, my daddy is a skrong trucker" to that effect. Moving on

[Elizondo]

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article258453658.html

The U.S. and Canada decry harsh sentencing of Cuban protesters after sedition convictions

February 17, 2022 6:01 PM

In an unusual gesture, Canada, which usually avoids antagonizing the government of Cuba, has joined the United States in condemning the harsh sentencing of Cubans who protested against the government last July, after judges handed down the first sedition sentences of up to 20 years in prison to 20 protesters earlier this week. “Canada condemns #Cuba’s harsh sentencing following the July 2021 protests,” Canada’s Global Affair Ministry said on Twitter. “Canada strongly advocates for freedom of expression and the right to peaceful assembly free from intimidation. We stand with the people of Cuba in their aspiration for #democracy.”

[Gravydoo II]

Yes we get it. Truckers can nut in your mouth at any time. We understand. We get it. You want to give mouth hugs and glk glk to the trucking community as a whole. We understand. We get it.

[bubur]

Yes we get it. Truckers can nut in your mouth at any time. We understand. We get it. You want to give mouth hugs and glk glk to the trucking community as a whole. We understand. We get it.

weird and gross

not sure what to say other than that

[Patriam1066]

Nope, never will, I love criticizing US imperialism internally only, it's typically the only way to survive doing so

Kurdistan sucks though dude. In Iran Kurds were known to fuck goats

I’m not sure if that’s true, but they were the principal authors of the Armenian genocide and as such, fuck em

[robayon]

Kurdistan sucks though dude. In Iran Kurds were known to fuck goats

I’m not sure if that’s true, but they were the principal authors of the Armenian genocide and as such, fuck emPobody's nerfect, America has plenty of blood on its hands too

[Trexller]

Pobody's nerfect, America has plenty of blood on its hands too

the blood on our hands is righteous and will remain so until another power takes from us the ability to rewrite history.

[robayon]

the blood on our hands is righteous and will remain so until another power takes from us the ability to rewrite history.You have a repulsive outlook

[Notfame]

Canada’s cucks will be thrilled to know they can fill a dutiful purpose in the protest as lot lizards near the border. There is consistent demand.

God bless.

[Notfame]

Lots of civil war talk from the career virgins. You retards would know if women actually let you nut in them that civil war is damn near impossible these days. Take one look at how people completely melted down when they were forced to raise their own children when the schools shut down for a couple of weeks.

If anything did pop off it would last a few days before everyone was like yeah fuck this I’m just going back to shitposting on Twitter.

Grow up lol

[Trexller]

You have a repulsive outlook

thats how planet earth actually works, and has been doing so for millenia prior to my arrival.

[Trexller]

Lots of civil war talk from the career virgins. You retards would know if women actually let you nut in them that civil war is damn near impossible these days. Take one look at how people completely melted down when they were forced to raise their own children when the schools shut down for a couple of weeks.

If anything did pop off it would last a few days before THE LIBERAL LEFT was like yeah fuck this I’m just going back to shitposting on Twitter.

Grow up lol

FTFY