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Notfame
02-24-2022, 04:38 AM
Here we go.
starkind
02-24-2022, 04:40 AM
Money (lol)
starkind
02-24-2022, 04:45 AM
Sources (UK vows ‘unprecedented’ sanctions to punish Russia's 'appalling decision’ - but the ruling Tory party also accepted donations from Russia...*¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://imgur.com/gallery/SBZ2PmS)!
Knowledge
02-24-2022, 07:05 AM
Putin just purchased his one way ticket to Hell.
Toxigen
02-24-2022, 07:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/N0o0Tua.png
Knowledge
02-24-2022, 08:04 AM
The dead cry out for vengeance. But God waits....
starkind
02-24-2022, 09:44 AM
We won't even use roman numerals for III I guess.
Toxigen
02-24-2022, 09:49 AM
https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/ukrainian-women-say-russian-troops-are-flirting-with-them-on-tinder/amp/
starkind
02-24-2022, 10:59 AM
Putin just purchased his one way ticket to Hell.
So did the west.
https://i.imgur.com/4hvtaEz.jpeg
I do hope Ukraine wins tho.
Would be kinda funny if a few snuck into RU and got ahold of one of putins own launch facilities.
I honestly think that the land based ones are mostly inoperative tho. Maybe putin only has a few planes and subs with nukes. Wish our intel apparatus didn't suck and we weren't on the brink of Civil War.
Otherwise I would have totally advocated fucking around and finding out. :p
unsunghero
02-24-2022, 11:29 AM
No one is going to war with Russia over Ukraine because Ukraine is not worth going to war over and Putin knows it
We’ll see what happens if he decides to invade some other country next, which apparently will be next week according to the news agencies “THE END IS NIGH”
starkind
02-24-2022, 11:44 AM
It'll be longer. He's hoping people cave or give him reasons to retaliate.
Here's a nightmare scenario: we invade/nuke a Russian target for some reason.
He nukes back like 3 or 5 targets then suffers massive military losses. Then backs off and turtles. China decides it owns everything next door.
That is also the most likely long term scenario if NATO gets involved.
He'll try to damage the west's economy. Nuke places like London.. Berlin. U.S. port cities.
He can actually suffer catastrophic military casualties because none of his hardware or personnel are high value. They are all more like pop up targets I bet.
We might be tempted to just glass Russia in response to all that. Well be staring China down tho.
So insert Jibartik C&C gif.
I think that they'll let Putin get away with murder. China could be the nuclear holocaust spark. They think they can survive nuclear winter tho I bet. I also bet Chinas long range capabilities are just not up to 2022 standards yet either. I doubt we can any longer win any engagements in that hemisphere tho.
America is on the brink of Civil War and starvation. Americans are undisciplined, uneducated, obese, sick, and living in fear if losing their slave jobs at Walmart.
"They" got us right where they wanted us since we started becoming a dysfunctional society. The culling of the strong, free, and independent is moving along as scheduled. And that's that.
Mblake1981
02-24-2022, 11:47 AM
Wish our intel apparatus didn't suck and we weren't on the brink of Civil War.
Otherwise I would have totally advocated fucking around and finding out. :p
Cival War? who, the USA? im sorry your nads bru. I am thinking 1980's New York City would have kicked all our sorry asses but I am not hopeless. :)
starkind
02-24-2022, 11:47 AM
Tldr. Ukraine should be a wake up call. That could be us vs us or just us soon. With the U.N., Nato going "shit".
Jibartik
02-24-2022, 11:49 AM
I seem to remember under trump there was no invasion's of Europe and threats of world war 3.
The democrats on the other hand kept telling me world war 3 was going to happen because of trump.
Mblake1981
02-24-2022, 11:49 AM
Tldr. Ukraine should be a wake up call. That could be us vs us or just us soon. With the U.N., Nato going "shit".
*snip*
-sent from my Iphone
starkind
02-24-2022, 11:50 AM
Cival War? who, the USA? im sorry your nads bru. I am thinking 1980's New York City would have kicked all our sorry asses but I am not hopeless. :)
Yes
"Civil war". It's going to be gross to watch for anyone with any military experience tho. I'm not saying it will be effective or a real war.
Watch these BLM and Trumptards cannibalize eachother when they can't afford government subsidized dopa crack at McDonald's, Starbucks, and Chick-fil-A.
starkind
02-24-2022, 11:54 AM
*snip*
-sent from my Iphone
I was in the 10th mnt Golden Dragons a hot minute. Let me yell at the "broke bone malnourished Nintendo genzzZZ".
I'm a guaranteed casualty bruh. Ain't got any illusions left. Can't even touch my toes anymore. Thats 90% of America.
Mblake1981
02-24-2022, 11:55 AM
Yes
"Civil war". It's going to be gross to watch for anyone with any military experience tho. I'm not saying it will be effective or a real war.
Watch these BLM and Trumptards cannibalize eachother when they can't afford government subsidized dopa crack at McDonald's, Starbucks, and Chick-fil-A.
[angry shouts across the coffee shop]
"Civil" war.
starkind
02-24-2022, 11:58 AM
Well you're not wrong.. the "riots and attempted purges" while idiots wave AR 15s and 1911s around they can't really afford or properly aim and shit themselves. While they meme eachother on ad hoc networks. And attempt to raid canned goods.
Reiwa
02-24-2022, 12:00 PM
musics please
x_thvx2p0pk
Jibartik
02-24-2022, 12:01 PM
The next civil war will be fought with bullets, bombs, and arson, between 2 armies of "mostly peaceful protesters"
Then after like half a year into these protests we'll realize it's actually a gorilla civil war, which the biden/turdo axis will use to create a NWO and they will actually ally up with the russian/chinese global empire, and establish the headquarters for the new worlds economy in the region formally known as Astana Kazakhstan.
Reiwa
02-24-2022, 12:05 PM
establish the headquarters for the new worlds economy in the region formally known as Astana Kazakhstan.
Let's do Baikonur instead.
https://i.imgur.com/f9AxApV.jpg
Jibartik
02-24-2022, 12:07 PM
A space station is a great place to have next to the reptoid capitol
starkind
02-24-2022, 12:08 PM
P.s. I don't want to be right. I'm just expressing how I feel and how unfit America is. And how disappointed I am at practically everyone. If you're not going to be affected or are good to go and feel totally cool and normal, I believe u.
U can easily spend the Tribulation motocrossing BLM and giggling at memes. Who knows maybe even p99 can last well into it. It'll be the main cities, economic hubs that go first. Some of the net can be its own net. Can't say you'll be playing EQ or WoW or memeing London.
Think of the collapse ending from Deus Ex 1
Explore Lost Ark - The Loop
02:51
J.C. Denton's destruction of Area 51 plunged the world into a period of depression and war known as the Collapse. The Collapse shattered the global powers. It would be two decades before those with visions of a new world order would again vie for dominance.
DEUS EX: INVISIBLE WAR
The Great Collapse is a major event that takes place between Deus Ex and its sequel Deus Ex: Invisible War.
When JC Denton destroys Area 51 at the end of Deus Ex, the center of multimedia communication and the Aquinas communication grid, the Internet is disabled and humanity descends into a period of war and economic recession known as The Collapse. It takes place over several months (indicated by JC) after the events of Deus Ex, and indirectly impacts almost every event in Deus Ex: Invisible War. Following The Collapse, transport between regions is slow and commercial air transportation is non-existent - only remote travel is facilitated through private pilots.
Explanations
Twenty years ago, J.C. Denton shut down the Aquinas Router, which paralyzed global communication and returned civilization to a simpler, decentralized existence.
DEUS EX: INVISIBLE WAR
In practical terms, Deus Ex ended with three possible endings. JC Denton could either choose to merge with an AI known as Helios, allow the Illuminati to regain control of the world by killing Bob Page and leaving Area 51 intact, or destroy Area 51 and the Aquinas system, removing the means by which any person or group could rule the world (with the side effect of destroying the world economy and creating a new "Dark Age").
https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Collapse
It's not a medieval dark age.
It's a millennial dark age.
We've stagnated politically economically, and technologically as it is and are practically there aside from the fractured global and national networks. We close thi bruhs.
Jibartik
02-24-2022, 12:09 PM
The world is unfit, and the messiah is about to come clean up the mess.
starkind
02-24-2022, 12:09 PM
The next civil war will be fought with bullets, bombs, and arson, between 2 armies of "mostly peaceful protesters"
Then after like half a year into these protests we'll realize it's actually a gorilla civil war, which the biden/turdo axis will use to create a NWO and they will actually ally up with the russian/chinese global empire, and establish the headquarters for the new worlds economy in the region formally known as Astana Kazakhstan.
I love ur communication style. I just want u to know that b4 i cannot post on p99s forums anymore.
Mblake1981
02-24-2022, 12:13 PM
musics please
mlU_48Qx0o0
starkind
02-24-2022, 01:06 PM
In Novosibirsk, Russia, local residents are marching in protest against the Russian invasion of Ukraine https://imgur.com/gallery/wtaMkua
Pretty good size compared to the fake ones from dontsk and luthunsk or w/e.
Would be epic lol if Russia military mutineed.
Reiwa
02-24-2022, 01:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/pgjRwoN.png
Gustoo
02-24-2022, 01:22 PM
In Novosibirsk, Russia, local residents are marching in protest against the Russian invasion of Ukraine https://imgur.com/gallery/wtaMkua
Pretty good size compared to the fake ones from dontsk and luthunsk or w/e.
Would be epic lol if Russia military mutineed.
Yeah it is good size compared to the fake ones.
Pretty big deal too since they’re gunna get thrown in tubes.
unsunghero
02-24-2022, 02:24 PM
Militia’s would be sloppy, but put them through a crash course of military training and then see what they can do. If the Muslim radicalization camps can make them capable of killing Superpower nation’s soldiers and they live in caves and fuck goats (sometimes), pretty sure we can learn how to as well
starkind
02-24-2022, 02:48 PM
There's a difference between militaries, militia, and mercenaries. And total warfare.
Total warfare is what Iran did.
Reiwa
02-24-2022, 02:51 PM
There's a difference between militaries, militia, and mercenaries. And total warfare.
Total warfare is what Iran did.
Huh? Hussein did the gas.
starkind
02-24-2022, 02:59 PM
Gas was internl genocide first strike? vs defensless? Unaware at the time kurds, rebels? Mountain village folks? years later? Not reallywar.. Idk about veterans of the Iran and Iraq war, that was maybe vx or mustard. Way before my time. Most of them died tho. Saw a BBC docu where they interviewed some Iranians and Iranians vets. They pumped out kids and they fought any way they could. Iran won. Afaik they literally stomped Iraqs two? Invasions, occupations, then came the Soviet? Well, it was like Iraq, Soviet, Iraq maybe? They have little tiny monuments all over and it was a big part of their identity.
Dieing fighting outside invaders was and is the most honorable way to live. Obviously everyone wants to make the other die first. Although I have to say Iranians where really impressive vs those two groups. They where willing to go all the way for many decades. Not just a few years. Or until the food and bullets ran out.
Definitely deserves a deeper look study from good sources and eyewitnesses accounts as a segway to unsungheros assertion.
Reiwa
02-24-2022, 03:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Htg0nmm.png
starkind
02-24-2022, 04:04 PM
Well either way NATO will be right there on their border. Doubly so now. So I was wrong about that.
I think it's mostly about the southeastern area around Crimea. It's strategically important, economically important, and could be a nice place to retire to one day. Fish, and have a yacht. I don't think it was worth invading and threatening nukes tho.
Maybe Putin has OCD and that jagged edge between Crimea and Chechnya was way 2 much to cope with.
Can anyone give a really good better actual reason for the invasion since we know the insurgency was trumped up?
I know Putin likes shoving Muslim refugees into Europe via Polandball and Belarus. More of that? I heard Putin has Parkinsons and some other horrible wasting condition too.
Talk to me like I'm an idiot. Because I am not really smart or eidetic. Just kinda clever and bitey.
Any more good fitting songs?
unsunghero
02-24-2022, 04:14 PM
Well either way NATO will be right there on their border. Doubly so now. So I was wrong about that.
I think it's mostly about the southeastern area around Crimea. It's strategically important, economically important, and could be a nice place to retire to one day. Fish, and have a yacht. I don't think it was worth invading and threatening nukes tho.
Maybe Putin has OCD and that jagged edge between Crimea and Chechnya was way 2 much to cope with.
Can anyone give a really good better actual reason for the invasion since we know the insurgency was trumped up?
I know Putin likes shoving Muslim refugees into Europe via Polandball and Belarus. More of that? I heard Putin has Parkinsons and some other horrible wasting condition too.
Talk to me like I'm an idiot. Because I am not really smart or eidetic. Just kinda clever and bitey.
Any more good fitting songs?
Something about not wanting Ukraine as part of NATO being so close to Russia, and Ukraine being lucrative ($$) due to a port it has. Those are supposedly the real reasons for invading. There’s speculation that Russia wants to take back all of what the USSR lost but that is probably impossible since that includes more countries like even part of Germany
That’s what I’ve heard as motivations
Patriam1066
02-24-2022, 04:14 PM
Well either way NATO will be right there on their border. Doubly so now. So I was wrong about that.
I think it's mostly about the southeastern area around Crimea. It's strategically important, economically important, and could be a nice place to retire to one day. Fish, and have a yacht. I don't think it was worth invading and threatening nukes tho.
Maybe Putin has OCD and that jagged edge between Crimea and Chechnya was way 2 much to cope with.
Can anyone give a really good better actual reason for the invasion since we know the insurgency was trumped up?
I know Putin likes shoving Muslim refugees into Europe via Polandball and Belarus. More of that? I heard Putin has Parkinsons and some other horrible wasting condition too.
Talk to me like I'm an idiot. Because I am not really smart or eidetic. Just kinda clever and bitey.
Any more good fitting songs?
He’s rebuilding the Soviet Union and using the resulting isolation to justify increasing domestic totalitarianism. He’s a one trick pony and an ass hole. He will face justice in the next life, hopefully he receives it in this one as well
Patriam1066
02-24-2022, 04:15 PM
Something about not wanting Ukraine as part of NATO being so close to Russia, and Ukraine being lucrative ($$) due to a port it has. Those are supposedly the real reasons for invading. There’s speculation that Russia wants to take back all of what the USSR lost but that is probably impossible since that includes more countries like even part of Germany
That’s what I’ve heard as motivations
East Germany was not part of the USSR
Reiwa
02-24-2022, 04:17 PM
There’s speculation that Russia wants to take back all of what the USSR lost but that is probably impossible since that includes more countries like even part of Germany
GDR wasn't a Soviet national republic
unsunghero
02-24-2022, 04:25 PM
GDR wasn't a Soviet national republic
Kk some co-worker had said to me today they believed the USSR used to be part of Germany, is where I heard it
Either way, I would be surprised to see Putin continue to attempt to expand. It sounds like he’s spent a lot of time and resources on fostering pro-Russia sentiment in parts of Ukraine. That might make Ukraine a little easier to hold, other EU countries he invades won’t have that sentiment
That means leaving a chunk of your forces behind in each country you take to deal with the constant insurgencies and riots. Oh and there could be more of those back home as a result of quality of life going down due to sanctions. I wouldn’t put it past Putin to try, but I have a high amount of skepticism on him succeeding
Horza
02-24-2022, 04:30 PM
Kk some co-worker had said to me today they believed the USSR used to be part of Germany, is where I heard it
Is that the same co-worker who says vaccinations are a secret plan to inject nanomachines into your bloodstream?
Reiwa
02-24-2022, 04:40 PM
Kk some co-worker had said to me today they believed the USSR used to be part of Germany, is where I heard it
Either way, I would be surprised to see Putin continue to attempt to expand. It sounds like he’s spent a lot of time and resources on fostering pro-Russia sentiment in parts of Ukraine. That might make Ukraine a little easier to hold, other EU countries he invades won’t have that sentiment
That means leaving a chunk of your forces behind in each country you take to deal with the constant insurgencies and riots. Oh and there could be more of those back home as a result of quality of life going down due to sanctions. I wouldn’t put it past Putin to try, but I have a high amount of skepticism on him succeeding
https://i.imgur.com/dAxEwaq.png
unsunghero
02-24-2022, 05:21 PM
Is that the same co-worker who says vaccinations are a secret plan to inject nanomachines into your bloodstream?
Naw he’s left wing progressive who is vaxxed and boosted unlike u ;)
This is the BH field, I’m the only conservative
unsunghero
02-24-2022, 05:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/dAxEwaq.png
Looks like a lotta insurgencies and riots to be putting down. Better be filling up them military POW prisons
YendorLootmonkey
02-24-2022, 06:42 PM
It'll be longer. He's hoping people cave or give him reasons to retaliate.
Here's a nightmare scenario: we invade/nuke a Russian target for some reason.
He nukes back like 3 or 5 targets then suffers massive military losses. Then backs off and turtles. China decides it owns everything next door.
That is also the most likely long term scenario if NATO gets involved.
He'll try to damage the west's economy. Nuke places like London.. Berlin. U.S. port cities.
There's no using "one nuke", or stopping at either 3 or 5 targets. If you use a nuke, you know you're getting glassed as a second strike to prevent you from using the rest of your arsenal, so the initial play needs to be to eliminate your enemy. Which you can't do because in the time it takes for your ICBMs to arrive, they've already launched in retaliation.
China has those new hyper-sonic missiles everyone's worried about because it significantly reduces your decision-making time in that scenario, but even if you targeted all the nuclear launch sites you think you know about, you still haven't eliminated nuclear submarine second-strike capability.
They've war-gamed all this shit out since the Cold War, and that's why Mutual Assured Destruction is the best deterrent against anyone using 1+ nukes. First guy to launch starts a snowball effect into the effective destruction of all of human civilization.
Gustoo
02-24-2022, 07:10 PM
What if a nuke was used but then the country that launched it said they thought it was a normal missile?
YendorLootmonkey
02-24-2022, 07:36 PM
What if a nuke was used but then the country that launched it said they thought it was a normal missile?
"Whoops, our badski!!" doesn't seem to quite cut it.
Gustoo
02-24-2022, 07:56 PM
What if a nuke was used on pretend accident but then the country sent a text to leader of the other country and said they could have a free shot at the city of their choice to avoid MAD?
Mblake1981
02-24-2022, 07:58 PM
What if a nuke was used on pretend accident but then the country sent a text to leader of the other country and said they could have a free shot at the city of their choice to avoid MAD?
Last one to the monkeybars is a big doodie head!
starkind
02-24-2022, 08:00 PM
I think they are bluffing "somewhat" except they are right we don't want to lose any high rises. At all or even humor it.
Mblake1981
02-24-2022, 08:18 PM
I think they are bluffing "somewhat" except they are right we don't want to lose any high rises. At all or even humor it.
Why do they hate us for our freedoms?
starkind
02-24-2022, 08:58 PM
I don't think they hate us. Some of them where going to colleges or moving here long term. Or try to buy businesses here.. there was a Russian run concrete works near me for awhile! Idk it's status now.. Tho they've been kinda screwed more and more lately.
Really as crazy as this sounds the best thing may have been to do a 180 on all the sanctions and Russia phobia. And just chill and hire some Ruskies to build some damns or chernobyl 2.0s. Possibly. Humor that just a moment and wonder if our cultural memes could infect them deeply enough to bring them into globalism without using any force. Their money in a London market.
Putin probably hates us considering history tho. And his life experiences. If he's got any zen left maybe he's just like really tired and frustrated with us.
I think Syria actually upset him tho.
Topgunben
02-24-2022, 09:13 PM
I seem to remember under trump there was no invasion's of Europe and threats of world war 3.
The democrats on the other hand kept telling me world war 3 was going to happen because of trump.
I miss Trump.
Gustoo
02-24-2022, 09:17 PM
No there was threats of ww3 due to North Korean saber rattling meanwhile China expanded power in the pacific. Good job.
Not sure if this is a real convo. Both parties are a joke and any American progress ever made is for sale to the highest bidder. I know a guy that knows a guy lmk what you want and if you got the cash we can make it happen.
Heh heh
Seriously trump was objectively a piece of shit and Biden was known useless not allowed to make a single appearance for 7 straight years under Obama. We can all agree on this topic, these guys suck hard.
Lemonhead
02-24-2022, 09:22 PM
The next civil war will be fought with bullets, bombs, and arson, between 2 armies of "mostly peaceful protesters"
Then after like half a year into these protests we'll realize it's actually a gorilla civil war, which the biden/turdo axis will use to create a NWO and they will actually ally up with the russian/chinese global empire, and establish the headquarters for the new worlds economy in the region formally known as Astana Kazakhstan.
It's sorta like the slow zombie and fast zombie get together in one movie. But for real.... Cause this is probably true. We are fighting against each other in a faux conflict.
But the reality is, and very, very frighteningly: there is no antagonist. Absolutely none. It is us. WE are the NWO. Right now. Playing a game of logic that was always going to play out. Cause effect always comes after cause. And we have no fucking choice.
So, enjoy. Observe. And relish the fucking insanity reality is. And get some iodine tabs for that 1% chance you need them to relish your back shooting for your Ramen. And I love you.
Topgunben
02-24-2022, 09:22 PM
No there was threats of ww3 due to North Korean saber rattling meanwhile China expanded power in the pacific. Good job.
Not sure if this is a real convo. Both parties are a joke and any American progress ever made is for sale to the highest bidder. I know a guy that knows a guy lmk what you want and if you got the cash we can make it happen.
Heh heh
Seriously trump was objectively a piece of shit and Biden was known useless not allowed to make a single appearance for 7 straight years under Obama. We can all agree on this topic, these guys suck hard.
Bowl cut JR backed down and Putin was afraid of making a move under Trump.
Even with all his flaws, Trump would have been so much better for our current situation.
Lemonhead
02-24-2022, 09:29 PM
I miss Trump.
You know. I miss Trump too. He might have talked blustery nonsense and confused everyone to the point where him and Putin were FORCED into the "50 Teen (or close) Girl and 2 Creep Conference." It was in the works, but stupid 6 million win election got in the way. Imagine. Nuclear war was almost averted by 1 very strange penis and 1 unknown shaped penis (afaik) and ONLY 50 sacrificial almost teens. That's all it would have taken to save humanity. Thats it
starkind
02-24-2022, 09:38 PM
So like Donbas, Luhansk and Odessia (speeling is bad or russian) is kinda 1/3rd of Ukraine or 1/3 the size of Texas. If the Russians only moved into those two or three regions tho without going after all of Ukraine that would have been a really bad strategic move and would make it easier for insurgents to keep coming into those areas from the west and destabilizing those regions and border there.
If you think about it, probably even prior to 2014, like even 2012 or 10 even those areas where economic deadzones because of the unique history and demographic situation that Jibartik illustrated prior. Especially with a cool professor video if you dig that out you'll really see what I'm talking about.
Now, "NATO" really wanted to solve this problem, and Russia forever had pretty much been nononono let Russia do it for u. This region is really important to russia cuz half these guys are practically russia. So. There is a legitimate casus bellius or however riewa says that word.
I remember the state of the Balkan states from my national geographics in the 80s and 90s. It has been really interesting. I feel like the media is inflating Russian "cruelty" on this one too. They could have gone in a lot harder initially. They did give civvies a lot of time to evac. And and they are taking heavier casualties themselves over that instead of just going in and doing the Iraq Kuwait highway of death thing the U.S. did.
This could have probably worked itself out in the long run in a sort of mutually beneficial way without a war and occupation. Who knows tho. Covid ate everyones brains and I'm pretty sure Putin is just 1 speed only. He is pretty old and KGB trained. So the bandaid came off. Who knows maybe he's thinking "holy shit this is actually working sort of." And he was totally ready to lose every asset engaged there. So it's like a bonus we've all made it this far.
I know Ukraine doesn't want to be occupied or Russia, and it should have stayed super Ukrainian with Ukrainian spellings and stuff. This IS what happened tho. And it could have been Hella worse right off the bat.
Anyone know how the Ukrainian defense is fairing? Any speculation on if they have a chance? Can do more damage? Retaliate? Their staying power? I'm sorta cheering for them. Not if it's going to drag on for 50 years tho and be forever hella miserable. Ideally they sorta pretty much win and sort it out with a more diplomatically receptive Russia that chills out some. Tho. I really honestly don't think that's is in the cards.
I saw three outcomes I thought I would tweak a bit more in favor of Ukraine some. Where russia gets most of all of Ukraine, half of Ukraine, or just the regions they cases belli over and a strip of coast between odessia and donbas and crimea.
Knowledge
02-24-2022, 09:40 PM
He will face justice in the next life, hopefully he receives it in this one as well
He's going to Hell. Center of the sun.
Lemonhead
02-24-2022, 09:54 PM
So like Donbas, Luhansk and Odessia (speeling is bad or russian) is kinda 1/3rd of Ukraine or 1/3 the size of Texas. If the Russians only moved into those two or three regions tho without going after all of Ukraine that would have been a really bad strategic move and would make it easier for insurgents to keep coming into those areas from the west and destabilizing those regions and border there.
If you think about it, probably even prior to 2014, like even 2012 or 10 even those areas where economic deadzones because of the unique history and demographic situation that Jibartik illustrated prior. Especially with a cool professor video if you dig that out you'll really see what I'm talking about.
Now, "NATO" really wanted to solve this problem, and Russia forever had pretty much been nononono let Russia do it for u. This region is really important to russia cuz half these guys are practically russia. So. There is a legitimate casus bellius or however riewa says that word.
I remember the state of the Balkan states from my national geographics in the 80s and 90s. It has been really interesting. I feel like the media is inflating Russian "cruelty" on this one too. They could have gone in a lot harder initially. They did give civvies a lot of time to evac. And and they are taking heavier casualties themselves over that instead of just going in and doing the Iraq Kuwait highway of death thing the U.S. did.
This could have probably worked itself out in the long run in a sort of mutually beneficial way without a war and occupation. Who knows tho. Covid ate everyones brains and I'm pretty sure Putin is just 1 speed only. He is pretty old and KGB trained. So the bandaid came off. Who knows maybe he's thinking "holy shit this is actually working sort of." And he was totally ready to lose every asset engaged there. So it's like a bonus we've all made it this far.
I know Ukraine doesn't want to be occupied or Russia, and it should have stayed super Ukrainian with Ukrainian spellings and stuff. This IS what happened tho. And it could have been Hella worse right off the bat.
Anyone know how the Ukrainian defense is fairing? Any speculation on if they have a chance? Can do more damage? Retaliate? Their staying power? I'm sorta cheering for them. Not if it's going to drag on for 50 years tho and be forever hella miserable. Ideally they sorta pretty much win and sort it out with a more diplomatically receptive Russia that chills out some. Tho. I really honestly don't think that's is in the cards.
I saw three outcomes I thought I would tweak a bit more in favor of Ukraine some. Where russia gets most of all of Ukraine, half of Ukraine, or just the regions they cases belli over and a strip of coast between odessia and donbas and crimea.
Yah, this is certainly deeper than we understand here, in the far west. I really anticipate a fall back and probably insurgency. But I have no idea. Kiev is way too close to russia for holding of the capital. I mean, they secured chernobyl. That's a skip to kiev. So, idk how russian kiev is. But insurgencies work. Very well. I mean, you can literally beat the greatest military (economically) ever. As almost nothing compared. So maybe Ukraine has the will. It really is up to the will.
Knowledge
02-24-2022, 10:11 PM
War is not about will its about technology and manpower. It is man-made, and has no supernatural power to rule by will.
starkind
02-24-2022, 10:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jbbvusj.jpeg
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t0o4dg/meet_the_ghost_of_kiev/
Maybe?!
Lemonhead
02-24-2022, 11:08 PM
War is not about will its about technology and manpower. It is man-made, and has no supernatural power to rule by will.
Umm, so the Taliban won how? And don't be silly. They won, hands down.
Edit: and of course, you aren't going to win a war of occupation without severe over-power. But Ukraine ain't Russia and will probably never be. It takes multiple generations to truly overtake
starkind
02-24-2022, 11:15 PM
A lot of people are asking this right now. https://imgur.com/gallery/3mvO45p
Kinda interasting.
Gravydoo II
02-24-2022, 11:23 PM
nuclear maintenance programs are a HUGE cost.. the bombs are not that expensive, its the delivery systems. To have some obsolete missile setup draining their economy everyone knows about and can shoot down is not worth having. So they give it up.
starkind
02-24-2022, 11:33 PM
I kinda agree. I would have invested more in defense. Going forward automated drones seem like they'd be a fun yet equally devastating alternative to nukes. So decentralized hacking 1 isn't all that effective. And if you're just firebombing or destroying everything the logic doesn't need to be terribly complex. Just set up a node then say "kill vehicles", "kill faces". Fire and forget.
Much better alternative to radiation.
Could even make them solar and simply kinetic. I'm pretty sure we can make some nasty "fireflies" that can just activate, hover up pretty high and dart in from altitude.
Can even give them a sleep mode so they just snooze until some vibration reactivated them. Way worse than mines, ooof.
Man I hope either side doesn't go super crazy with mines or something like that.
Patriam1066
02-24-2022, 11:59 PM
We should send 10000 stingers and 10000 javelins to Ukraine
Trexller
02-25-2022, 12:11 AM
We should send 10000 stingers and 10000 javelins to Ukraine
we should just say, alright fuck this, enough of this shit and all you uppity bastards in the world, then engage anyone who ever looked at us the wrong way with great prejudice.
ALL war-game think tanks have the "U.S. vs The World" either fighting to a U.S. victory, or a draw. In no war-game scenario does the U.S. lose.
I would play those odds.
really fucking tired of everyone's tiny little problems becoming issues for the rest of the world.
Shut up and go home or Die.
Chortles Snortles
02-25-2022, 02:04 PM
3HUWUtTZvK4
Jibartik
02-25-2022, 02:10 PM
Calling grandma a nazi so you can send grandma's to fight in world war 3.
Chortles Snortles
02-25-2022, 04:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/o4QZCMJ.jpg
starkind
02-25-2022, 04:40 PM
My new gender is Ghost of Kyiv!
Skydaddy could be really real 2.
Reiwa
02-25-2022, 05:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/o4QZCMJ.jpg
Hahaha
starkind
02-25-2022, 05:38 PM
The actual reddit thread is pretty good by reddit standards. Not as good as Chortles Memequest tho.
The reddites convinced me that the Ghost could be real. Therefore in my mind the Ghost of Kyiv is totally real. If enough of us have faith and believe we will manifest him, or her! Admittedly it could be a female ghost of kyiv!
Reiwa
02-25-2022, 05:53 PM
The reddites convinced me...
to deeply mistrust Zelensky. If those idiots like him so much, it's a huge red flag.🚩
Jibartik
02-25-2022, 05:56 PM
Yeah zelensky totally just getting the country ready for a move to join the russian feds.
Nato going to let them do it out of fear of helping them stop the war nato started.
starkind
02-25-2022, 06:21 PM
He's a bad guy? Ukrainian current president?
Jibartik
02-25-2022, 06:27 PM
He's a bad guy? Ukrainian current president?
He seems to be against Russia, but he keeps saying things like NATO is not helping, that biden is a dipshit, that the Ukrainians are left to fight alone with no allies...
It just strikes me that he's prepping a message that Nato fucked them, and will cut ties with them and come to some sort of political agreement with Russia to give them more of the Ukraine, in exchange for a stronger relationship and peace. Aka, joining the Russian federation.
Gustoo
02-25-2022, 06:36 PM
That is probably correct Jib.
Hes been playing the middle man as well as he can but at this point we aren't giving him many options to get out alive.
But then again I'm seeing a lot of Ukrainian patriot posts.
Chortles Snortles
02-25-2022, 09:22 PM
The actual reddit thread is pretty good!
https://i.imgur.com/NFZOVCx.gif
starkind
02-25-2022, 10:42 PM
Soylent p good. I want to try huel tho.
I'm good with canvas bags of oats and barely n some occasional veg, spice, peppers, jalapeños, peas, carrots, berries n stuff with maybe occasional aspic jelly from bones and scrap from animals. Maybe a lil fish, chicken. Or wheat with like lard/butter. That's low on my priority important to do right though! be free range tho. Eggs!
Goat cheese, wine, pita, fresh olives, dates be like treats.
Coffee/tea another nice staple. A literal tea and herb garden would be baller. Maybe some honey from beeeeeees!
Chortles Snortles
02-25-2022, 11:24 PM
>OMG GUYZZZ THE HECKIN GHOSTERINOOOOO
starkind
02-26-2022, 12:40 AM
I'm down to self owns which I won't do today.
Gg!
Gustoo
02-26-2022, 01:12 AM
I just got off the phone with the ghost of Ukraine and he said red 2.0 is imminent and he’s gunna play.
Rogean is releasing it just so he can deny access to Russians as a show of solidarity
starkind
02-26-2022, 01:53 AM
I just got off the phone with the ghost of Ukraine and he said red 2.0 is imminent and he’s gunna play.
Rogean is releasing it just so he can deny access to Russians as a show of solidarity
:D
don't click if u believe, seriously!
ghost was a fake by some war thunder grifter
I believe tho. Ghost of Kyiv exists in our hearts and awaits us on red 2.0!
New_Guy
02-26-2022, 01:57 AM
LOL it's cute how all the trump supporters believe the Russian propaganda hook line and sinker.
Putin isn't stopping the whole world just showed him for 13+ years he can take land and they won't do anything but pass worthless sanctions, he's still under sanctions from 2014.
Europe is next, then he'll come for America with an allied China while we bicker over memes.
Mblake1981
02-26-2022, 02:05 AM
LOL
he'll come for America
_tj-Hp7AYlk
Trexller
02-26-2022, 07:12 AM
_tj-Hp7AYlk
lol wut?
MSNBC really has no idea of anything do they?
most trump supporters think anime is a woman named Anna-May
anime is the top tier of beta boy shit, its not gonna attract any trump fans, it doesn't smell like gunpowder, whiskey or employment.
Jibartik
02-26-2022, 08:21 AM
Democrats are upset all the CIA disruptions of small governments is no longer going to happen when Russia is the New World power
Ravager
02-26-2022, 08:23 AM
That makes perfect sense.
Jibartik
02-26-2022, 08:25 AM
Such a shame that we won’t be able to just fly our little helicopters anywhere we want and blow up whoever the fuck we feel like anymore.
Jibartik
02-26-2022, 09:02 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa
2004 article about how American CIA destabilization actually set up this invasion 20 years ago.
I have no respect nor do I have any love for America or the system of government that we have created and tried to make work here.
I spit as I wave goodbye to the age of our global terror
starkind
02-26-2022, 09:20 AM
https://i.imgur.com/eNE7RBH.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/NZygEZg.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/EYRY4ak.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/p72r8HG.jpeg
https://amp.marca.com/en/lifestyle/world-news/2022/02/26/6219757d22601d2e038b45bf.html
Ghost of Kyiv real according to former Ukraine president Poroshenko https://imgur.com/gallery/zrZVGDl
https://i.imgur.com/rO4ejYJ.png
Chortles Snortles
02-26-2022, 10:17 AM
HECKIN BASED GHOSTERINO!!!!
Jibartik
02-26-2022, 10:20 AM
I hope there’s a guy flying around killing people in the name of some western global trade conglomerate!
-peaceful Americans
New_Guy
02-26-2022, 10:26 AM
I hope there’s a guy flying around killing people in the name of some western global trade conglomerate!
-peaceful Americans
He's defending his country from invasion, show some respect you commie twat.
Awesome post Starkind.
Gravydoo II
02-26-2022, 10:28 AM
Fuck russia. Shoot em all down. These fucking daggots and pussies HATE america and would never defend it with their lives. They would never risk it for anyone.
They cant understand patriotism. They think that means "hate the black people more" so they have no idea why that guy is even in the plane.
Jibartik
02-26-2022, 11:51 AM
He's defending his country from invasion, show some respect you commie twat.
Awesome post Starkind.
Yeah after we destabilized it… so that they would join NATO.
Way to go warmongering America!!!
unsunghero
02-26-2022, 12:33 PM
True legend. I fear for his safety
starkind
02-26-2022, 03:01 PM
I would trade my life for him to have just 1 more shootdown.
Fuck putin.
Sad I am just a big fat retarded obese chronically ill broke dick liability.
Go GHOST!
https://i.imgur.com/7J2xHMC.png
That is something to aspire to.
Mblake1981
02-26-2022, 03:20 PM
That is something to aspire to.
https://i.imgur.com/694jDW4.png
starkind
02-26-2022, 03:30 PM
100 years praS
Patriam1066
02-26-2022, 04:18 PM
I hope there’s a guy flying around killing people in the name of some western global trade conglomerate!
-peaceful Americans
Buddy are you ok? Putin is a bad guy and the Ukrainians are dirt poor who are being invaded because they voted differently than Putin liked
New_Guy
02-26-2022, 04:19 PM
Yeah after we destabilized it… so that they would join NATO.
Way to go warmongering America!!!
You are cheering a dictator who has faux elections over a free country...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXOe6SG1qw
Patriam1066
02-26-2022, 04:21 PM
we should just say, alright fuck this, enough of this shit and all you uppity bastards in the world, then engage anyone who ever looked at us the wrong way with great prejudice.
ALL war-game think tanks have the "U.S. vs The World" either fighting to a U.S. victory, or a draw. In no war-game scenario does the U.S. lose.
I would play those odds.
really fucking tired of everyone's tiny little problems becoming issues for the rest of the world.
Shut up and go home or Die.
Disagree bud, 40 million shouldn’t be conquered by a midget needle dick from Russia
Russians are pieces of shit
Patriam1066
02-26-2022, 04:23 PM
Putin is 5’6”
He joined the KGB so his Napoleon ass could have power. Some people don’t want to bend over though, too bad for him! Slava ukraini (I think that’s what they’re saying)
Patriam1066
02-26-2022, 04:26 PM
Yeah after we destabilized it… so that they would join NATO.
Way to go warmongering America!!!
We destabilized Ukraine? A nation of track suit wearing boxers who look like Neanderthals and make $1500 a year?
It’s been pretty unstable throughout its history, which makes them kicking Russia’s ass all the more hilarious. Ukrainians are legends. Fuck Russia
Jibartik
02-26-2022, 05:19 PM
Buddy are you ok? Putin is a bad guy and the Ukrainians are dirt poor who are being invaded because they voted differently than Putin liked
Wonder why they are dirt poor oh look American CIA destabilized them in 2004
Sorry you worship the beast.
Edit: oh you didn’t even know haha I now see your double Post.
Yea if you think life is rough in Ukraine right now it’s because America has been destabilizing them because they want it to be a NATO country.
starkind
02-26-2022, 05:44 PM
Jibartik. Putin lied. His regime is exactly what you rail against and Volodymyr Zelensky is Jewish.
https://i.imgur.com/suoKeAq.png
Kosher pasta from Canada tonight.
Get on the right side of history.
&
God bless!
Mblake1981
02-26-2022, 05:53 PM
Kosher pasta from Canada tonight
https://i.imgur.com/s59M9J6.jpg
lmao, wait.. are you that same asshole bullwinkle troll I argued with here years back? You are aren't you.
Jibartik
02-26-2022, 06:01 PM
Jibartik. Putin lied. His regime is exactly what you rail against and Volodymyr Zelensky is Jewish.
https://i.imgur.com/suoKeAq.png
Kosher pasta from Canada tonight.
Get on the right side of history.
&
God bless!
Putin said neonazis
Which is an actual problem in destabilized Ukraine.
Thanks Whitehorse
starkind
02-26-2022, 06:35 PM
https://i.imgur.com/s59M9J6.jpg
lmao, wait.. are you that same asshole bullwinkle troll I argued with here years back? You are aren't you.
No. I imported my food :p 😋 :o
@Jibartik- sure everywhere has a neonazi problem. Don't blame Zelensky.
Also I do believe the Nazi themselves did revisionist history and adopted a lot of symbolism. In order to stamp out its original meaning. Damage the people it held meaning to. Co-opt the symbolisms power. Globalist megacorps do the same thing.
Do some research from anywhere other than a Russian source and get back to synagogue.
Reiwa
02-26-2022, 06:43 PM
https://i.imgur.com/s59M9J6.jpg
lmao, wait.. are you that same asshole bullwinkle troll I argued with here years back? You are aren't you.
you'd have to link, but I think that was mario.
Mblake1981
02-26-2022, 06:57 PM
you'd have to link, but I think that was mario.
Since there is reasonable doubt, there are some similarities but its not right.
*Ignore recent moose calls.
Patriam1066
02-26-2022, 08:10 PM
Wonder why they are dirt poor oh look American CIA destabilized them in 2004
Sorry you worship the beast.
Edit: oh you didn’t even know haha I now see your double Post.
Yea if you think life is rough in Ukraine right now it’s because America has been destabilizing them because they want it to be a NATO country.
It sure seems like the Ukrainians, who are currently fighting to the death against the Russians in an admirable last stand, are the actual people who want Ukraine to be in NATO
You’re a bit brainwashed dude. Hope you don’t catch a Ukrainian on the street. They look pretty mean to me
Jibartik
02-27-2022, 01:16 AM
It sure seems like the Ukrainians, who are currently fighting to the death against the Russians in an admirable last stand, are the actual people who want Ukraine to be in NATO
You’re a bit brainwashed dude. Hope you don’t catch a Ukrainian on the street. They look pretty mean to me
I’m brainwashed? Lmao ok establishment parrot.
You’re a bit brainwashed dude.
LOL says the guy who just regurgitates what the TV talking heads tell him all the time without a second thought hahaha
New_Guy
02-27-2022, 11:19 AM
LOL says the guy who just regurgitates what the TV talking heads tell him all the time without a second thought hahaha
You are repeating Russian Propaganda and just too stupid to know the stories started on Russia Today.
Patriam1066
02-27-2022, 11:34 AM
Ukrainians aren’t fighting for Ukraine? That’s just what the TV is telling me? Interesting perspective, are you guys on the ground in Kiev?
starkind
02-27-2022, 11:34 AM
Ukraine: Atreides
Putin: Vladimir Harkonnen
Who's Shaddam IV tho?
Ukrainians aren’t fighting for Ukraine? That’s just what the TV is telling me? Interesting perspective, are you guys on the ground in Kyiv?
ftfy
Kiev is Russian
Kyiv is Ukrainian
Jibartik
02-27-2022, 08:40 PM
Ukrainians aren’t fighting for Ukraine? That’s just what the TV is telling me? Interesting perspective, are you guys on the ground in Kiev?
Yes, that is what the TV is telling you. Ukrainians are fighting for NATO
On 21 February 2019, the Constitution of Ukraine was amended, the norms on the strategic course of Ukraine for membership in the European Union and NATO are enshrined in the preamble of the Basic Law, three articles and transitional provisions.
They dont even have their own constitution...
Notfame
03-01-2022, 07:47 PM
Thread goin good, some of these hombres took that red pill as a suppository and it shows lol
starkind
03-01-2022, 07:52 PM
Don't worry guys. Ivan's on the job.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 09:11 PM
I can’t wait to see what the thread is like in three weeks.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 09:46 PM
Europeans on the internet a month ago:
5jk2mkvW7KI
Europeans today:
Z8xNtZhpuGY
Nukemap is down, ostensibly from all the people checking how fucked they are if there is an exchange lol
I'm like two miles from one of the largest army bases in the country so... yea I'm vaporized instantaneously.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 09:53 PM
Who owns a Geiger counter? I got one a few weeks ago lol
starkind
03-01-2022, 10:03 PM
We built one late 80s... it's long since been lost along with the hot rock my brother borrowed for science fair to test it :o
P.s. walking is great exercise. Don't forget to stay hydrated even in the cold!
Nocht
03-01-2022, 10:08 PM
Sucks for you people that live on the coasts.
starkind
03-01-2022, 10:42 PM
Small chance I'd live. Tho traintracks and a small airport so probably not. We'd probably get a smaller warhead diverted here tho. So may live like 1 minutes to 24 hrs.
Reiwa
03-02-2022, 12:21 AM
Europeans today:
Z8xNtZhpuGY
are Chechens muslim?
Are they as Muslim as Kosovos(don't known the word for those folks)
Putin bombed them either way.
Jan135
03-02-2022, 07:46 AM
What Putin is doing now is a crime against both Ukraine and Russia. He is sending young soldiers (21-25 y.o.) as cannon fodder. People are dying every day. On top of that, Putin is threatening other countries with nukes.
Trexller
03-02-2022, 11:41 AM
are Chechens muslim?
Are they as Muslim as Kosovos(don't known the word for those folks)
Putin bombed them either way.
totally muslim.
the boston bomber dudes were chechen
putin did make a lil bit of war in chechnya, then cozied up to some of their rebel leaders, installed them as actual leaders, and now they are butt buddies.
who the fuck knows what they have been promised, but anyone who knows anything, knows that the phrase, "the spoils of war" has nothing to do with jewelry or silver located in the homes of civilians.
Those psychos are gonna kill, and they are gonna rape, in that order.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 12:18 PM
The Prime Minister of Chechnya, Ramzán Kadírov, confirmed last Friday that Chechen troops would be sent to support the Russian invasion of Ukraine. In a video posted online, Kadyrov said that invading Ukraine was the "right decision" and that they would be ready to "carry out" Putin's orders "under any circumstances."
Reiwa
03-02-2022, 12:20 PM
totally muslim.
the boston bomber dudes were chechen
putin did make a lil bit of war in chechnya, then cozied up to some of their rebel leaders, installed them as actual leaders, and now they are butt buddies.
who the fuck knows what they have been promised, but anyone who knows anything, knows that the phrase, "the spoils of war" has nothing to do with jewelry or silver located in the homes of civilians.
Those psychos are gonna kill, and they are gonna rape, in that order.
I think it was Chechnya where the internet videos of men being decapitated slowly with a knife. :(
WAY before Isis
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 12:35 PM
I do think that the SOU last night was super light on ukraine speek. Like, I praised him live saying 'well he's not using ukraine as a distraciton for our problems'
but I also felt like it was a little TOO light.. considering what I read on the internet.
If ukraine becomes a bigger mess than it is now and we do get involved, then the SOU was terrible, because it was a distraction.
If it doesnt, and the economy gets better then it was a good SOU
I dont know what to predict anymore, but I figure the worst is going to happen because its end times.
But you never know, maybe things will work out for us all and we're on the way out of the dark place covid put us in.
Trexller
03-02-2022, 12:36 PM
I think it was Chechnya where the internet videos of men being decapitated slowly with a knife. :(
WAY before Isis
yeah i remember that, but to be fair, human beings doing unspeakable things to other humans, is exactly as old as the human species.
we as a species, learned to make war before we learned to make peace
we as a species, learned to sell sex before we learned to sell food
we as a species, learned to make alcohol before we learned how to farm
we as a species, learned to make allies, not out of brotherhood, but out of fear.
whatever end we are facing, we deserve it.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 12:48 PM
last week videos in ukraine of pows calling mom and drinking tea
this morning I was looking at one where they made them walk naked down the street
I expect next week we'll be seeing the videos that remind us of why showing pows on video is a warcrime.
Patriam1066
03-02-2022, 05:27 PM
are Chechens muslim?
Are they as Muslim as Kosovos(don't known the word for those folks)
Putin bombed them either way.
Hey buddy is Finland going to join NATO? What about Sweden?
starkind
03-02-2022, 09:50 PM
P.s. yall where right about ww3 and memequest on the battle field.
Radio Chatter https://imgur.com/gallery/2Mp65VU
I feel like Ukraine is totally ww3 in a bottle. We already are at war. We where and still are. Putin just chose the battle ground (unwisely). Escalating ww3 to this was a bad move for everyone.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 09:54 PM
I dont think ww3 will happen because russia is not going to just attack poland and is going to just occupy ukraine. And we've made it clear we wont attack russia over ukraine.
So I think that basically what we're looking at is a ukrainian afghanastan, could be 20 years of these types of radio chatter posts.
Although I dont know how like global attitude towards that will go, like with sanctions. That sounds hugely complicated... and like unrealistic? Like, we're not even sanctioning them right now even though we said we would put sanctions on them like the world has never seen.
We have our lips firmly wrapped around their oil lines still. Which to my mind means we sanctioned the people who's savings collapsed, but the goverment and oligarchs that make money from the big stuff are ok (sans any confiscated yachts of course)
Mazoku
03-02-2022, 09:59 PM
This is the campaign of non-nuclear world war 3. Just wait until nuclear world war 3.
starkind
03-02-2022, 10:08 PM
We figured out how good meming was for recruiting taliban and Isis.
U betchya the CIA is jumping 4 joy right now.
I believe a lot of what I've seen so far. Less the motives behind this stuff. We'll start to see the meming get a bit silly and more targeted and there'll be some chatter about countering Russian disinformation with our own.
It's going to get really silly tho bois.
Zelenskyy = Atreides
Putin = Harkonnen
Shaddam IV = ???
Reiwa
03-03-2022, 01:35 AM
We have our lips firmly wrapped around their oil lines still.
3%
Reiwa
03-03-2022, 01:40 AM
Hey buddy is Finland going to join NATO? What about Sweden?
I think the answer is no for Sweden because they'd have to liberalize their economy as part of the entry requirement. Sameish reason we didn't let Ukraine in yet.
Don't know about Finland.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 02:33 AM
This is the campaign of non-nuclear world war 3. Just wait until nuclear world war 3.
CyzHGSOJjeA
Mblake1981
03-03-2022, 03:10 AM
Didn't click
starkind
03-03-2022, 10:02 AM
What if we are all already spirits and were dying of radiation poisoning already and we are just remembering and trying to piece together the last moments.
Sure feels like it.
/\
Mblake1981
03-03-2022, 12:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/hubtnC0.png
Mblake1981
03-03-2022, 01:02 PM
dodhj4JsSzY
starkind
03-03-2022, 01:48 PM
Do ya'll think pads will be necessary after ww3? I wouldn't know.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 01:52 PM
how effed would that be if the greys were us time traveling from the future after radiation made us all eunuchs and we only cloned ourselves.
starkind
03-03-2022, 01:54 PM
My hedge is the greys are children of men.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 01:58 PM
The only way to find out is set off some nukes and see if they stop em again!
starkind
03-03-2022, 02:00 PM
I'm curious AF
I'm tired of the means to destroy all life being in the hands of complete fucking assholes. Every country has the government it deserves, and the Russian people are culpable for the actions of Putin, just like the American people were culpable for the actions of Bush, Obama, and Trump.
We are on a path to global destruction. The Russian nuclear warfare doctrine commits nuclear first strike privileges against "any threat to the existence of the Russian state", including conventional war with NATO. Eventually, whether in 100, 1,000, or even 10,000 years, the Russian state will fall, and it is simply a matter of chance whether the conditions will be conducive to nuclear exchange. As long as these weapons are around, IT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN.
As long as these weapons exist, it is only a matter of time until nuclear annihilation. We knew this for most of the last century, and I think all the boomers became so jaded living under that threat that they just shoved it to the back of their minds. It's just hopeless.
It is probably better that humanity does not exist. We treat other creatures with extreme cruelty, wantonly and wastefully destroying their habitats. The industrialized meat industry causes other conscious creatures, relatively close cousins to ourselves, untold, unimaginable pain and suffering. I think the Earth, and all life, will be better off, eventually, without us here. Some of the archaea at the bottom of the Mariana trench, or under the Antarctic ice sheets will survive and reseed Earth's life in a few billion years.
That being said, I'd very much like to finish living my life before it happens. Fuck Russia and their threats, their warmongering, their degenerate worthlessness. They have so little of value to add to the global exchange of thoughts and ideas, yet have done so much damage.
starkind
03-03-2022, 02:31 PM
1 person having thousands of nukes on demand at the press of a button is rly dumb. No one person should ever hold power over so many others. Not even on a scale of 10:1. It's wrong and why the world is held hostage.
We can fix this. Especially if every government decides to disarm and enforce that disarmament on eachother so that governments collectively only have the means to stop any one government from building thousands of nukes again.
Don't worry though. Ivan's on the job again.
Trexller
03-03-2022, 02:51 PM
Ukraine: "Give up your nukes they said, everything will be fine they said, we got your back they said"
starkind
03-03-2022, 03:20 PM
Ukraine: "Give up your nukes they said, everything will be fine they said, we got your back they said"
If Ukraine had 1 single modern nuke this probably would not have happened.
Trexller
03-03-2022, 03:37 PM
If Ukraine had 1 single modern nuke this probably would not have happened.
Yep. They should have never disarmed.
Now, no nation on earth will even consider disarming, and other nations/rogue actors, will pursue nuclear armaments with greater intensity.
The Ukraine situation has just confirmed to the whole world that nuclear weapons are the only guarantee to national sovereignty. North Korea and Iran are probably quadrupling their efforts.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 03:41 PM
It'd be interesting if Putin is sacked out of this and the war is ended, would be yet another apocalyptic event we narrowly survived in the last few years.
Will we start to feel unstoppable soon? The tide turns and we have a booming future?
Yep. They should have never disarmed.
Now, no nation on earth will even consider disarming, and other nations/rogue actors, will pursue nuclear armaments with greater intensity.
The Ukraine situation has just confirmed to the whole world that nuclear weapons are the only guarantee to national sovereignty. North Korea and Iran are probably quadrupling their efforts.
Yep. Sounds like we've found the Great Filter. There will never be geopolitical conditions in which the world disarms, and as long as we're armed, it is only a matter of time. In the matter of decades that we've had nuclear weapons, we've already had several very close calls. Extrapolate that over the next 10,000 years and there is just no way we survive.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 04:54 PM
I mean even in startrek they had wars.
The thing they omit in scifi is that like anyone with space youtube will be able to make a planet killing something or other by the time we can all fly around between different star systems IMO
I honestly dont know how life is supposed to exist without killing and wars, like it makes no sense that it's even possible unless you turn everyone into a robot.
Mblake1981
03-03-2022, 04:59 PM
I'm tired of the means to destroy all life being in the hands of complete fucking assholes. Every country has the government it deserves, and the Russian people are culpable for the actions of Putin, just like the American people were culpable for the actions of Bush, Obama, and Trump.
We are on a path to global destruction. The Russian nuclear warfare doctrine commits nuclear first strike privileges against "any threat to the existence of the Russian state", including conventional war with NATO. Eventually, whether in 100, 1,000, or even 10,000 years, the Russian state will fall, and it is simply a matter of chance whether the conditions will be conducive to nuclear exchange. As long as these weapons are around, IT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN.
As long as these weapons exist, it is only a matter of time until nuclear annihilation. We knew this for most of the last century, and I think all the boomers became so jaded living under that threat that they just shoved it to the back of their minds. It's just hopeless.
It is probably better that humanity does not exist. We treat other creatures with extreme cruelty, wantonly and wastefully destroying their habitats. The industrialized meat industry causes other conscious creatures, relatively close cousins to ourselves, untold, unimaginable pain and suffering. I think the Earth, and all life, will be better off, eventually, without us here. Some of the archaea at the bottom of the Mariana trench, or under the Antarctic ice sheets will survive and reseed Earth's life in a few billion years.
That being said, I'd very much like to finish living my life before it happens. Fuck Russia and their threats, their warmongering, their degenerate worthlessness. They have so little of value to add to the global exchange of thoughts and ideas, yet have done so much damage.
Needs more fortification, we are so afraid of WW3 and nukes that we prompted WW3 and nukes. Some strange compulsion.
Ooloo
03-03-2022, 05:04 PM
Yep. Sounds like we've found the Great Filter. There will never be geopolitical conditions in which the world disarms, and as long as we're armed, it is only a matter of time. In the matter of decades that we've had nuclear weapons, we've already had several very close calls. Extrapolate that over the next 10,000 years and there is just no way we survive.
I think you're being a little paranoid. We did successfully stop the development of new nuclear weapons. It's also creepy and antinatalist to suggest human beings shouldn't exist. You *are* a human being, I assume. What are you talking about man?? Are you ok?
Yes we treat animals cruelly, sometimes, other times we treat them pretty damn great. Meanwhile, a tiger is *always* gonna treat me cruelly.
It's just a weird moral self flaggelating thing to be all down on humanity because nukes are scary.
Reiwa
03-03-2022, 05:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ZZ2zSZT.png
unsunghero
03-03-2022, 06:16 PM
^
Yup
Most anti-fascists use fascist tactics but it’s ok because we’re the good guys
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 06:17 PM
Well the anti fascists in america are against putin so its time to just round up anyone who isnt one of them.
Ooloo
03-03-2022, 06:35 PM
The anti-fascists in america are so god damn stupid I don't think most of them even know what they actually believe. I could probably explain to them what they *think* they believe better than they could tell me themselves.
unsunghero
03-03-2022, 06:59 PM
The anti-fascists in america are so god damn stupid I don't think most of them even know what they actually believe. I could probably explain to them what they *think* they believe better than they could tell me themselves.
Fat lady with the umbrella saving America by inspiring terror in fascist Asian reporters everywhere
Ooloo
03-03-2022, 07:18 PM
Weird that ursula there isn't wearing a mask, considering the obese actually are a risk group for covid!
Which reminds me, I hope all those russians and ukranians fighting right now are at least masked and boosted. Now is NOT the time to get complacent about a GLOBAL PANDEMIC!
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 07:24 PM
yall see when desantos had that breakdown infront of those kids about masks lol Im voting for that guy hes gonna push every button there is.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 07:28 PM
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them walking off:
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t5yqyx/the_entire_staff_of_the_russian_tv_channel_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Reiwa
03-03-2022, 07:32 PM
Fat lady with the umbrella saving America by inspiring terror in fascist Asian reporters everywhere
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17102&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1646348313
Hey I think I saw that video. The city was clearing a sidewalk of tents and he was taking video of it. A guy behind him was on a bullhorn saying "Taking pictures of peoples houses is rude!".
Nobody touched anyone 0/10 protest clip.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 07:37 PM
I hate to say thsi but the best clips I seen from ww3 are coming from reddit, this one is amazing lol
"I'm not going to comment, because I don't want to believe it..."
https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/t5vxi8/a_snapshot_of_the_russian_economy_an_investment/
I wish her trick works lol
starkind
03-03-2022, 07:44 PM
Everyone should live on farms.
1 male.
1 female.
Several children.
They should go to temple and town hall twice a week.
Everything else is sin.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 07:45 PM
it'll be like that on mars
or we'll be shooting at each other
but it'll be like that for some folks on mars.
Jibartik
03-03-2022, 08:22 PM
Imagine just shooting the shit like this with this fellow bro then parting ways and shooting rockets at each other.
I have no idea what is going on in this video but imagine that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/N_N_N/comments/t651ln/video_shows_the_meeting_of_russian_federation/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
unsunghero
03-03-2022, 11:41 PM
Hey I think I saw that video. The city was clearing a sidewalk of tents and he was taking video of it. A guy behind him was on a bullhorn saying "Taking pictures of peoples houses is rude!".
Nobody touched anyone 0/10 protest clip.
Found a better one
Some college “functional adults” with high levels of emotional intelligence decided to scream, stand on desks, and try to hock spit at someone running for office who wants to ban giving hormones to kids. The rest of the room pounded desks and chanted something about fucking fascists
I guess the backstory is that his own son was trans, he didn’t accept it, and ultimately lost custody. Then he decided to run for office to prevent gender reassignment hormones for kids
Our college system at work. I’m sure this room full of future graduates will be perfectly functional professionals and not end up unemployed or on disability begging for the gov’t to erase their student debt:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UPox7DzdsM4
Patriam1066
03-03-2022, 11:52 PM
I mean, abortion banned and a candidate from that party is banging an ISIS bride. Texas republicans deserve a lot of ire at the moment
I especially like how they keep taking Southwest Airlines’ cash to not build high speed rail. A relatively small amount of track connecting Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio would connect nearly 20 million people
That said, spitting is assault and should be treated as such
unsunghero
03-04-2022, 12:12 AM
I mean, abortion banned and a candidate from that party is banging an ISIS bride. Texas republicans deserve a lot of ire at the moment
I especially like how they keep taking Southwest Airlines’ cash to not build high speed rail. A relatively small amount of track connecting Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio would connect nearly 20 million people
That said, spitting is assault and should be treated as such
I dunno about this Jeff guy, but if he deserves criticism then these kids should get up there and debate him. Use their words
Throwing an adult temper tantrum and screaming over someone is just embarrassing. It makes someone look developmentally delayed. And I’ll say the same about any conservatives using that tactic too. And yeah spitting I believe is felony assault
I didn’t hear about the isis bride or high speed rail though
unsunghero
03-04-2022, 12:26 AM
So I looked up the affair with the ISIS bride, and the dude resigned as a result?? I guess he was married, so that’s kinda fucked up. I mean, a lot of politicians have affairs (looking at you, Bill Clinton), I just personally am against them because my dad devastated my mom by cheating on her when they were married
However, in regards to sleeping with the enemy…
Eric Swalwell had sex on multiple occasions with a Chinese spy, Feng Feng, and he never resigned. Got to keep his job, not even reprimanded or punished. Does he have liberal privilege?
Who’s the hotter enemy? ISIS bride or Feng Feng? I’d bang either, but I wouldn’t cheat on my wife to do so
unsunghero
03-04-2022, 12:59 AM
Oh, and the funny thing is that Swalwell presided over one of Trump’s 921 impeachment hearings riiiight around the time it came out that Feng Feng was a Chinese spy. Keep in mind Trump started a trade war with China
Which led me to wonder if there ever was a part of foreplay that included “Hay big American baby if yu promise to impeach Trump I let yu put it in my ass baby”
Reiwa
03-04-2022, 01:28 AM
(looking at you, Bill Clinton)
Haha 'member when Republicans used the state apparatus to prosecute him for marital infidelity?
Wild and wacky times, man. :p
Jibartik
03-04-2022, 01:50 AM
Zelens’kyi: "Russian tanks are firing right now on a nuclear power plant. They are equipped with night vision gear, they know what they are doing... No state aside from Russia has ever fired upon a nuclear power plant. This is a first, a first in human history..."
Gustoo
03-04-2022, 01:50 AM
Trump wasn’t anti China it was just less obvious than his Russian allegiance.
He pulled USA out of the trans pacific partnership that we basically created that would have strengthened our allies in the pacific and shit on China. The trade war did nothing to China please note Walmart prices were not impacted.
Main thing it did is they stopped taking our “recycling”
Jibartik
03-04-2022, 02:04 AM
russian boomers would beat the crap out of american boomers
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t67al3/russian_elders_on_war_in_ukraine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Mblake1981
03-04-2022, 02:11 AM
russian boomers would beat the crap out of american boomers
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t67al3/russian_elders_on_war_in_ukraine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
So you are pointing out that it usually isn't politically correct for American boomers to openly support war or a President who does. If they do then they are warmongers and should be publicly shamed. But you also point out this is weak and it gets your ass kicked. Wow, gee, hmm. Nope, nobody could have guessed that. Better luck next time :o
It wasn't very PC of you to post this. Edit: If I didn't know any better my dear Jibartik, I would say you have a doomsday fetish and need this. You walk right into it. What with all the end of the world talk before this kicked off, you must have the hard on of the century.
Reiwa
03-04-2022, 02:18 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t67al3/russian_elders_on_war_in_ukraine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
>power is in army
https://i.imgur.com/EOtfHgb.png
Mblake1981
03-04-2022, 02:23 AM
that feeling of a warm sun through the glass on a Sunday morn church pew
Jibartik
03-04-2022, 02:23 AM
oh look the unity fascists I said started the whole damn thing are saying to win we all need to blindly follow them told you its all a conspiracy the antichrist is coming war is not over anytime soon beware the end is nigh
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/opinions/american-unity-stopping-vladimir-putin-kasparov-epshtein/index.html
Trump wasn’t anti China it was just less obvious than his Russian allegiance.
He pulled USA out of the trans pacific partnership that we basically created that would have strengthened our allies in the pacific and shit on China. The trade war did nothing to China please note Walmart prices were not impacted.
Main thing it did is they stopped taking our “recycling”
hmm gustoooo gravydoooo... hmm. both incredibly dumb posters spamming propaganda thats entirely detached from reality. then again, you also like to extend your idiocy to every other corner of p99 forums. gravydumb usually contains his idiocy to this forum.
Reiwa
03-04-2022, 02:39 AM
hmm gustoooo gravydoooo... hmm. both incredibly dumb posters spamming propaganda thats entirely detached from reality. then again, you also like to extend your idiocy to every other corner of p99 forums. gravydumb usually contains his idiocy to this forum.
do you have beef with Tromp pulling out of the TPP or is this just a personal vendetta?
Red folks be grudgin'
do you have beef with Tromp pulling out of the TPP or is this just a personal vendetta?
Red folks be grudgin'
which formerly banned user are you?
starkind
03-04-2022, 09:45 AM
I dunno about this Jeff guy, but if he deserves criticism then these kids should get up there and debate him. Use their words
Throwing an adult temper tantrum and screaming over someone is just embarrassing. It makes someone look developmentally delayed. And I’ll say the same about any conservatives using that tactic too. And yeah spitting I believe is felony assault
I didn’t hear about the isis bride or high speed rail though
Yel. My brain just turns off now. People don't have a clue how to violence and militant politely. We live in a failed state. Screaming and shitting won't fix shit.
Knowledge
03-04-2022, 09:53 AM
Einstein fucked us.
Jibartik
03-04-2022, 01:59 PM
Einstein fucked us.
0s_vmrlA400
starkind
03-08-2022, 11:23 PM
It's not ww3 until we bring back zeplins. As a serious weapons platform.
U know we got blimps that go into space now?
Jibartik
03-08-2022, 11:27 PM
lol 400 million dollars goes from nato to russia, PER DAY.
QcKeeWJLC-o
starkind
03-08-2022, 11:36 PM
I have to say I'm more concerned about my own negligence and incompetence negatively impacting others than any form that ww3 manifests...
That, that concept is soooo hard to illustrate to most ppl makes me think it's time soon. Like I don't want to boil the planet. ... like I don't .. I'm not exactly anxious about it.. that's the wrong word.
I just think if ppl are going to do this thing they should put more effort into it then "gazprom spats with EU". And stuff....
Zeplins....!
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