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Jibartik
09-20-2022, 01:13 PM
Apparently we should give everyone nukes.

Because all nukes have done in our lifetime is prevent war.

The only countries that go to war are the ones we dont allow to have nukes.

Ironically we could power the entire globe this way, and everyone could live in ample peace.

Funny how to protect us all from these things that seemed to have end war, and provide free energy to everyone on the planet, we have to destroy them, or the scientists trying to figure it out.

Kaveh
09-20-2022, 01:14 PM
CTSO?

CSTO is a joke. Turkey and Azerbaijan are genocidal and they should face judgment

Jibartik
09-20-2022, 01:15 PM
Oh yea, and russia wouldnt even have a military because they paid for it with oil.

Reiwa
09-20-2022, 01:27 PM
CSTO is a joke. Turkey and Azerbaijan are genocidal and they should face judgment

#Armenexit

Encroaching Death
09-20-2022, 01:27 PM
Tromp gave Europe a similar warning.

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He told them they should diversify their oil imports.

That's not the same as "You should hate Russia".

And they laughed in his face. Literally.

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Toxigen
09-20-2022, 01:29 PM
so whats the latest on ukraine vs russia it seems to be out of the news cycle

Jibartik
09-20-2022, 01:29 PM
You're nuts if you think america was in a worse position under trump than biden.

Jibartik
09-20-2022, 01:31 PM
so whats the latest on ukraine vs russia it seems to be out of the news cycle

Russia is getting their ass kicked super hard right now.

Its either going to be a loss and withdrawal or a major escalation, probably a loss though IMO!

Encroaching Death
09-20-2022, 01:33 PM
so whats the latest on ukraine vs russia it seems to be out of the news cycle

Ukraine is slowly taking back towns in the north east.

Southeast Donbass(?) is quiet.

Kherson region is interesting. A lot of potential partisan activity, etc.

Ukraine seems to be gaining momentum. This Winter will be very interesting.

Not just for Ukraine, but for the rest of Europe as well.

Jibartik
09-20-2022, 01:34 PM
Ukraine is slowly taking back towns in the north east.

Southeast Donbass(?) is quiet.

Kherson region is interesting. A lot of potential partisan activity, etc.

Ukraine seems to be gaining momentum. This Winter will be very interesting.

Not just for Ukraine, but for the rest of Europe as well.

Im wondering if we're going to get a withdrawl before winter, maybe being optimistic.

Encroaching Death
09-20-2022, 01:42 PM
Im wondering if we're going to get a withdrawl before winter, maybe being optimistic.

Probably not. That's my bet. I think Russia is hoping the winter will get really bad in Europe and cause them to lighten up sanctions in exchange for gas.

Or something to that effect.

If I ran the US, I'd start drilling in Alaska and exporting a metric-fuckton of oil to Europe.

But that's just me. Then Germany could depend 100% on me for gas and then I'll start a war in Ukraine and Germany would be like "WTF!?? Really?! Again??"

Then I would say "Pranked ya, buddy!"

Then we would laugh and grab a doner kebab or whatever the fuck the Krauts eat

Jibartik
09-20-2022, 01:49 PM
If i ran the US Id immediately nationalize the oil reserves and then do the same.

Then i'd hang a lot of bankers.

Ok maybe not the last part.

maybe...

MrSparkle001
09-20-2022, 01:57 PM
Russia is getting their ass kicked super hard right now.

Its either going to be a loss and withdrawal or a major escalation, probably a loss though IMO!

My bet is on escalation, considering one of the big reasons (if not THE big reason) is that the U.S. is supplying Ukraine with state-of-the-art weaponry.

The U.S. is a part of this war by proxy and don't think for a moment Russia isn't seething at it.

Kaveh
09-20-2022, 09:08 PM
Probably not. That's my bet. I think Russia is hoping the winter will get really bad in Europe and cause them to lighten up sanctions in exchange for gas.

Or something to that effect.

If I ran the US, I'd start drilling in Alaska and exporting a metric-fuckton of oil to Europe.

But that's just me. Then Germany could depend 100% on me for gas and then I'll start a war in Ukraine and Germany would be like "WTF!?? Really?! Again??"

Then I would say "Pranked ya, buddy!"

Then we would laugh and grab a doner kebab or whatever the fuck the Krauts eat

Does alaska have a lot of untapped oil? I actually don’t know the answer to this as it’s always been cheaper and easier to refine due to transport when extracted in the Permian basin

Kaveh
09-20-2022, 09:13 PM
Im wondering if we're going to get a withdrawl before winter, maybe being optimistic.

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That would result in a collapse of the Putin regime. I don’t think you can give up 50,000 lives and come away with nothing. Not even in backwards ass Russia

Also, with all the anger in the hearts of Ukrainians, if Russia withdrew to the 2014-15 lines, Ukraine would keep going all the way to their internationally recognized borders, including crimea

Russia has really fucked itself over. If they mobilize and win, every family will know how brutal the war is when they witness it themselves. And that simply prolongs sanctions indefinitely and perhaps gets other nations to join them

This is terrible PR and why leaders shit on Putin at the SCO meeting recently. You can’t convince people you’re not an orc when you’re acting like one. Either way, I agree with Dino. The winter will be interesting as it’s made no sense so far

The only real winners in this conflict so far are China, Turkey, and Central Asia. China gets a vassal with extensive natural resources, Central Asia gets more leverage to maneuver independently as Russia is distracted, and Turkey by virtue of its size and geography yet again gets to act like it’s important even though its only asset is straddling the Bosporus

Jibartik
09-20-2022, 09:20 PM
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That would result in a collapse of the Putin regime. I don’t think you can give up 50,000 lives and come away with nothing. Not even in backwards ass Russia

Also, with all the anger in the hearts of Ukrainians, if Russia withdrew to the 2014-15 lines, Ukraine would keep going all the way to their internationally recognized borders, including crimea

I agree with you on all counts, I kept saying that with the rhetoric of this war that there is no turning back without hanging putin.

But without invading or a civil war I could see him just going back to normal.

They live in a hypernormalized world in russia, and we've become accustomed to that too.

The only real winners in this conflict so far are China

I BIGGLY disagree with you here, those countries all are suffering and have shit quality of lives.

The only winners are the 1%, weapons manufacturers, and the worlds bankers.

Flags dont mean S#!T

Kaveh
09-20-2022, 10:03 PM
I agree with you on all counts, I kept saying that with the rhetoric of this war that there is no turning back without hanging putin.

But without invading or a civil war I could see him just going back to normal.

They live in a hypernormalized world in russia, and we've become accustomed to that too.



I BIGGLY disagree with you here, those countries all are suffering and have shit quality of lives.

The only winners are the 1%, weapons manufacturers, and the worlds bankers.

Flags dont mean S#!T

Yeah I agree. I meant the CCP, the common people not so much

Homesteaded
09-20-2022, 10:52 PM
If i ran the US Id immediately nationalize the oil reserves and then do the same.

Then i'd hang a lot of bankers.

Ok maybe not the last part.

maybe...

My friends have come up with a fun game where we each have named the country that we hypothetically run, then we flesh out ideas that we would enact. The idea is you're immediately granted full magical control over the US and you are tasked with correcting it to how you see fit. Pretty fun game actually...would be fun to play with this crowd.

Jibartik
09-21-2022, 12:49 AM
Ok here's a go

Nationalize oil to pay for all this

nationalize healthcare & education

products sold in the us have to be made in the us

corporations have totally separate rights than people

heavy penalization for corporations that abuse free speech laws by promoting lies

rank choice voting

let California manage immigration and let Texas manage the border

🤔

lots more nuke power

high speed rail throughout country

TSA employs are executed (citizens are allowed to wear black hoods and perform the roll of executioner)

total ufo disclosure

goverment grants for anthropology studies

and everything else pretty much the same.

Jibartik
09-21-2022, 12:56 AM
women become subserviant of men

all religion is king james christan bible

youth camps that are like boyscoutts but....

JK :o

Reiwa
09-21-2022, 12:58 AM
Ok here's a go

Nationalize oil to pay for all this

nationalize healthcare & education

products sold in the us have to be made in the us

corporations have totally separate rights than people

heavy penalization for corporations that abuse free speech laws by promoting lies

rank choice voting

let California manage immigration and let Texas manage the border

🤔

lots more nuke power

high speed rail throughout country

TSA employs are executed (citizens are allowed to wear black hoods and perform the roll of executioner)

total ufo disclosure

goverment grants for anthropology studies

and everything else pretty much the same.

la Terreur (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror)

Jibartik
09-21-2022, 01:01 AM
la TSAerreur.

Encroaching Death
09-21-2022, 05:57 AM
la Terreur (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror)

That's what France gets for listening to a psycho stuck in a bath tub.

Reiwa
09-21-2022, 11:51 AM
Putin called the banners (https://twitter.com/i/events/1483255084750282753)

Putin orders partial mobilization as Russia moves to hold annexation referendum

Encroaching Death
09-21-2022, 12:26 PM
Putin called the banners (https://twitter.com/i/events/1483255084750282753)

So they burned through all their experienced troops.

Now they force prisoners and wet-behind-the-ears teenagers to the front.

Have fun!

magnetaress
09-21-2022, 01:12 PM
Sounds exactly like veitnam

MrSparkle001
09-21-2022, 01:15 PM
So they burned through all their experienced troops.

Now they force prisoners and wet-behind-the-ears teenagers to the front.

Have fun!

He's such an idiot, and that's what's dangerous. The morale of his troops is so low they're disguising themselves to escape.

And this is a man that has access to nukes + chemical weapons and has no problem carrying out assassinations. He may wind up getting his own ass assassinated he keeps this up.

Homesteaded
09-21-2022, 01:25 PM
Males between the ages of 14-20 must past strict course work on manners and morals. Physical training is required. If the males don't pass, they will remain in some sort of society that is removed from the bulk of civilians.

Women during this time will learn how to be mothers, how to raise children, how to educate, how to be soft and loving.

Advertising is illegal in any way shape or form.

Free School lunches

Nuclear power all over the place.

Forced retirement at the age of 65 from any meaningful work. If you want to continue to work there will be robust volunteer systems.

All Politicians must be born in the US. Term limits of 5 years for all politicians. You may not run for any political office unless you are 50-60 years old.

Lobbying will be strictly illegal, any fuckery results in public execution.

Supreme Court will be limited to 18 years in office, resulting in each president having a hand in the court and no fuckery will be involved.

College education system will be totally revamped. Tenure won't be a thing. Government loans for education won't be a thing. College will be privately funded.

Government work will be limited to 8 years of your entire life any and all positions, drain that swamp.

Jesus.

magnetaress
09-21-2022, 01:51 PM
Jesus

Kaveh
09-21-2022, 03:24 PM
Putin called the banners (https://twitter.com/i/events/1483255084750282753)

I’m sure you’ll believe those referenda too, lol

Reiwa
09-21-2022, 03:33 PM
I’m sure you’ll believe those referenda too, lol

Sorry for not being an election denier. :o

Kaveh
09-21-2022, 03:44 PM
25 mile traffic jam leaving Russia at the Finnish border, LOL

Russia has never had a legitimate election. May be shocking, but Putin doesn’t actually have 90 percent support. Russia is also not liked in any Ukrainian region, hence carbombs killing occupation mayors and governors

I wonder if this helps Russia’s war effort? If they Zerg Odessa in 3 months that would make Ukraine toast long term (I’d think)

Kaveh
09-21-2022, 03:49 PM
He's such an idiot, and that's what's dangerous. The morale of his troops is so low they're disguising themselves to escape.

And this is a man that has access to nukes + chemical weapons and has no problem carrying out assassinations. He may wind up getting his own ass assassinated he keeps this up.

That’s the best outcome. The worst is this mobilization works, he takes Odessa and we have to decide whether we support Ukraine for the next 100 years

I suppose a tactical nuke is actually worst case, but still. I don’t like Russia escalating. It isn’t like Ukraine is even clearly winning at this point

magnetaress
09-21-2022, 05:29 PM
25 mile traffic jam leaving Russia at the Finnish border, LOL

Russia has never had a legitimate election. May be shocking, but Putin doesn’t actually have 90 percent support. Russia is also not liked in any Ukrainian region, hence carbombs killing occupation mayors and governors

I wonder if this helps Russia’s war effort? If they Zerg Odessa in 3 months that would make Ukraine toast long term (I’d think)
Less resistance for Putin and his devoted acolytes to rebuild kgbommunism.

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 02:50 AM
lol imagine if ukraine shot down russias attempt to nuke them lol

This is beyond pathetic for russia at this point my god I mean they went from a world power to afghanastan in half a year lol.

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Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 06:05 AM
Russia still thinks it's the USSR, in terms of might.

They may have massive amounts of gear from back in the Soviet days, but all that stuff has to be maintained, and it's also old and out of date. A ton of their transport trucks were suffering from dry rot tires because I guess the officers were too busy selling off ammo and gasoline to maintain the vehicles.

That classic Soviet corrupt mindset permeates everywhere.

They have a larger population and they have nukes. But everything else is working against them.

Maybe if Putin announced a full mobilization and declared war, turning the country into a war economy...maybe it would make a difference.

But this partial mobilization will probably fail.

MrSparkle001
09-22-2022, 09:00 AM
Russia still thinks it's the USSR, in terms of might.

They may have massive amounts of gear from back in the Soviet days, but all that stuff has to be maintained, and it's also old and out of date. A ton of their transport trucks were suffering from dry rot tires because I guess the officers were too busy selling off ammo and gasoline to maintain the vehicles.

That classic Soviet corrupt mindset permeates everywhere.

They have a larger population and they have nukes. But everything else is working against them.

Maybe if Putin announced a full mobilization and declared war, turning the country into a war economy...maybe it would make a difference.

But this partial mobilization will probably fail.

You mean Putin still thinks it's the USSR. I don't think the younger generations do or even want to go back to it.

Putin is potentially in deep shit right now. He better have the best damned personal security on the planet because you know people are plotting to assassinate him right now, both people close to him and people that stand to lose it all because of him.

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 09:20 AM
You mean Putin still thinks it's the USSR. I don't think the younger generations do or even want to go back to it.

Agreed. It's typically the Boomers who are the diehards. Reliving the glory days.

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 10:23 AM
Russia still thinks it's the USSR, in terms of might.

https://bigthink.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Ukraine-Map-01.jpeg

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 10:31 AM
Russia still thinks it's the USSR, in terms of might.

They may have massive amounts of gear from back in the Soviet days, but all that stuff has to be maintained, and it's also old and out of date. A ton of their transport trucks were suffering from dry rot tires because I guess the officers were too busy selling off ammo and gasoline to maintain the vehicles.

That classic Soviet corrupt mindset permeates everywhere.

They have a larger population and they have nukes. But everything else is working against them.

Maybe if Putin announced a full mobilization and declared war, turning the country into a war economy...maybe it would make a difference.

But this partial mobilization will probably fail.

Lets not forget that we had people falling off airplanes and lost 13 soldiers and killed 9 kids during an "evacuation" so maybe war is just stupid.

LOTS of money has been made in the last 6 months though, so it's not for "some".

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 10:34 AM
https://bigthink.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Ukraine-Map-01.jpeg

What's your point? Should they also invade Alaska?

Russia still thinks it's the USSR, in terms of might

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 10:35 AM
What's your point? Should they also invade Alaska?

You got it backwards is all. It's Ukraine that thinks that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic)

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 10:43 AM
stockmarket teetering on the brink of disaster.

putin must be thinking, no no no no they're about to collapse, noo we just had to last like 3 more months 😭

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 10:44 AM
You got it backwards is all. It's Ukraine that thinks that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic)

What am I supposed to do with that link? It says nothing about Alaska.

Are you talking about the Ukrainian land that everyone in the world (including Russia) has accepted as an independent nation for the last 30 or so years?

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 10:49 AM
What am I supposed to do with that link? It says nothing about Alaska.

Are you talking about the Ukrainian land that everyone in the world (including Russia) has accepted as an independent nation for the last 30 or so years?

Radio lady says something to the effect of 'Ukraine's current territorial claims are not deeply rooted in history or tradition'. I dunno, she sounds pissed.

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 10:52 AM
Radio lady says something to the effect of 'Ukraine's current territorial claims are not deeply rooted in history or tradition'. I dunno, she sounds pissed.

Well, shit. I guess we need to give Ukraine back to the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth then.

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 10:52 AM
Well, shit. I guess we need to give Ukraine back to the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth then.

'No justice on stolen land'. She's laughing.

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 10:54 AM
'No justice on stolen land'. She's laughing.

Sounds like a 'Blood and Soil' argument. Is this woman a Neo-Nazi by chance?

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 10:55 AM
Sounds like a 'Blood and Soil' argument. Is this woman a Neo-Nazi by chance?

She says you are a silly person.

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 10:56 AM
She says you are a silly person.

I am a silly person.

magnetaress
09-22-2022, 11:30 AM
stockmarket teetering on the brink of disaster.

putin must be thinking, no no no no they're about to collapse, noo we just had to last like 3 more months 😭

If he was a patient man he wouldn't have needed to invade anywhere

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 11:31 AM
or maybe would have planned this invasion.

I read that they really did send most of the soldiers in thinking it was training, with half ammo and gas so they wouldnt be suspicious even.

And like only the top brass knew what was going to happen? That is just totally insane to me lol

magnetaress
09-22-2022, 11:37 AM
or maybe would have planned this invasion.

I read that they really did send most of the soldiers in thinking it was training, with half ammo and gas so they wouldnt be suspicious even.

And like only the top brass knew what was going to happen? That is just totally insane to me lol

what i'm saying is given a few more years ukraine would probably have been trying to get out of natao

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 12:06 PM
ah, and an invasion also kind of enshrines that it will last much longer heh

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 12:19 PM
If that's 2040 Im gonna be making some pretty butthurt posts about the world hanging not ended.

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 12:23 PM
or maybe would have planned this invasion.

I read that they really did send most of the soldiers in thinking it was training, with half ammo and gas so they wouldnt be suspicious even.

And like only the top brass knew what was going to happen? That is just totally insane to me lol

One of the ways US intel knew Russia was about to invade was the fact they knew they were shipping blood bags to the border.

Apparently blood bags are in short supply and are fairly perishable. Something you don't bring along for training.

I also heard Russia will activate conscripts (something that isn't legal in Russia) by holding referendums in combat zones within Ukraine. Once they vote to join Russia, then they are allowed to send conscripts to "Russian territory" when in reality, they're on the front lines of the war.

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 12:24 PM
Theres a TV show about russia taking over Finland with like a super stealth urban invasion with like russian special forces ninjas.

And I think they saw that and were like, letd do ziz in ukraine ya!

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 12:45 PM
Credit where credit is due - this was funny

https://media.patriots.win/post/RnrNfj8W2CCA.jpeg

MrSparkle001
09-22-2022, 01:15 PM
One of the ways US intel knew Russia was about to invade was the fact they knew they were shipping blood bags to the border.

Apparently blood bags are in short supply and are fairly perishable. Something you don't bring along for training.

I also heard Russia will activate conscripts (something that isn't legal in Russia) by holding referendums in combat zones within Ukraine. Once they vote to join Russia, then they are allowed to send conscripts to "Russian territory" when in reality, they're on the front lines of the war.

They already are activating conscripts. Some of the ones being arrested for protesting right now received conscription letters, according to today's news.

So yes once the fake vote ends they'll be sent to the Ukraine. It's going to be a disaster. You think the regular troops' morale is bad? Conscripts will desert in droves.

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 01:24 PM
They already are activating conscripts. Some of the ones being arrested for protesting right now received conscription letters, according to today's news.

So yes once the fake vote ends they'll be sent to the Ukraine. It's going to be a disaster. You think the regular troops' morale is bad? Conscripts will desert in droves.

Russia also only has ONE base in country dedicated to training.

While not all 300k will be conscripted (reserves are being called up) there will be a log jam in the way of training. If they want to alleviate that, they can either send them to the front without training or wait for more bases to process the newbies.

Either option is not good.

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 01:25 PM
https://bigthink.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Ukraine-Map-01.jpeg

Ruthenians are attested as an ethnicity prior to the advent of Ukraine. Ukraine was given to a people based on where they lived

Taking it back is referred to as genocide and ethnic cleansing. Hope this helps

You’ve never read life and fate? You might as well be illiterate my good irishman

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 01:32 PM
Ruthenians are attested as an ethnicity prior to the advent of Ukraine. Ukraine was given to a people based on where they lived

Taking it back is referred to as genocide and ethnic cleansing. Hope this helps

You’ve never read life and fate? You might as well be illiterate my good irishman

How 'bout some self-determination for the Donbas? :p

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 01:43 PM
How 'bout some self-determination for the Donbas? :p

How 'bout some self-determination for Texas? :p

7thGate
09-22-2022, 02:10 PM
Putin called the banners (https://twitter.com/i/events/1483255084750282753)

"Guys, guys! I know how we can kill Sontalak! We'll make 1000 accounts and powerlevel 8000 characters to level 10, then swarm him to death in waves! There's no way he could kill 8000 characters!"
^About how I expect this to go.

MrSparkle001
09-22-2022, 02:11 PM
"Guys, guys! I know how we can kill Sontalak! We'll make 1000 accounts and powerlevel 8000 characters to level 10, then swarm him to death in waves! There's no way he could kill 8000 characters!"
^About how I expect this to go.

To be fair it doesn't sound all that different to how they zerged Germany 80 years ago with conscripts.

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 02:17 PM
To be fair it doesn't sound all that different to how they zerged Germany 80 years ago with conscripts.

True, but it was much easier to train the average soldier back then.

And they had a MUCH larger population to pull from.

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 03:12 PM
How 'bout some self-determination for the Donbas? :p

Ireland doesn’t have a tradition of independent statehood

Time to be subsumed by the UK?

MrSparkle001
09-22-2022, 03:53 PM
True, but it was much easier to train the average soldier back then.

And they had a MUCH larger population to pull from.

AND determination. They were invaded and even though conscripts were forced into combat at gunpoint in Stalingrad as a whole the USSR was determined to punish Germany severely.

Fighting in Ukraine not so much lol.

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 03:58 PM
Ireland doesn’t have a tradition of independent statehood

Time to be subsumed by the UK?

Ulster made their choice and we should and do respect it.

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 04:15 PM
Ulster made their choice and we should and do respect it.

The island had never been an independent and unified polity until 1917

If part of Ukraine should be Russian, all of Ireland should revert to the UK

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 04:19 PM
The island had never been an independent and unified polity until 1917

If part of Ukraine should be Russian, all of Ireland should revert to the UK

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Ireland_1450.png?20180526031303

If you insist to make the comparison, happy to lend The Red Hand for Donbas' flag.

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 04:30 PM
You might as well be saying the American Revolutionaries were no less than agents of the Ancien Regime.

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 04:47 PM
You might as well be saying the American Revolutionaries were no less than agents of the Ancien Regime.

Americans are British. There is no such thing as Americans because Britain once held the area in the 1700s.

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 04:47 PM
Nah, Russians have no right to ukrainian land. You’re just a commie

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 04:48 PM
America had the power to stop this from ever happening in the first place instead of saying, "if its a minor incursion, we'll talk about letting it slide" right before putin suddenly announces special military operation.

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 04:55 PM
We had the power to stop it in 1945. Should’ve followed Patton and ended russia, North Korea, and China before they could live long enough to become a nuisance

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 04:58 PM
Nah, Russians have no right to ukrainian land. You’re just a commie

I like how Tankies justify imperialism when its the USSR doing it.

Imperialism = bad (no matter who does it)

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 05:01 PM
I like how Tankies justify imperialism when its the USSR doing it.

Imperialism = bad (no matter who does it)

It doesn’t matter dude, we’ll be deploying to Taiwan. I’ll be 65 and conscripted because I’ll be one of the few able to physically fight (half of america is the obese from the movie Wall-E)

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 05:02 PM
(half of america is the obese from the movie Wall-E)

75% - 85%

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 05:03 PM
Americans are British. There is no such thing as Americans because Britain once held the area in the 1700s.

We stopped identifying as British and self-determined at gunpoint. Just as DPR and LPR are doing, now with Russian support. 🥖

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 05:05 PM
The fact that you think those people actually wanted to be free of Ukraine and part of Russia is hilarious

150,000 Russians have fled to Kyrgyzstan. No one wants to be part of Russia you mongoloid

What else have you read on Sputnik?

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 05:08 PM
The fact that you think those people actually wanted to be free of Ukraine and part of Russia is hilarious

150,000 Russians have fled to Kyrgyzstan. No one wants to be part of Russia you mongoloid

What else have you read on Sputnik?

I don't know what that is. A newspaper website?

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 05:09 PM
I’m sure you don’t. Along with those referenda results, I heard Putin hit a hole in one on a par 5

Does it feel bad being on the side of evil?

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 05:12 PM
I’m sure you don’t. Along with those referenda results, I heard Putin hit a hole in one on a par 5

Does it feel bad being on the side of evil?

I have never been there until just now when you mentioned it.

But I am cumming. Thanks!

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 05:12 PM
We stopped identifying as British and self-determined at gunpoint. Just as DPR and LPR are doing, now with Russian support. 🥖

Oh, we stopped identifying as British? What do the British think of that?

It's their land, after all. They once had it in 1775. So if the British decide that Americans don't exist today, then they should be allowed to invade our shores with their military.

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 05:13 PM
No point arguing with him. Azovs were freed by Russia. They don’t even believe the bull shit they sold him and other useful idiots with low IQ.

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 05:15 PM
Oh, we stopped identifying as British? What do the British think of that?

It's their land, after all. They once had it in 1775. So if the British decide that Americans don't exist today, then they should be allowed to invade our shores with their military.

No they signed a treaty after we kicked their ass(thx frogs). Belligerence over.

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 05:24 PM
“We”

You like Russia dude. You’re not American. Go get implants and teach shop

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 05:26 PM
“We”

You like Russia dude. You’re not American. Go get implants and teach shop

Not hating Russia is not the same as liking it.

Ukraine bad though.

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 05:30 PM
They’re actually pretty bad ass. Who knew

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 06:14 PM
No they signed a treaty after we kicked their ass(thx frogs). Belligerence over.

Ah, okay. So a treaty between two nations is required?

Oops, what's this? uwu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Ukrainian_Friendship_Treaty#:~:tex t=The%20Treaty%20on%20Friendship%2C%20Cooperation, for%20territorial%20integrity%20and%20mutual

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 06:50 PM
Ah, okay. So a treaty between two nations is required?

Oops, what's this? uwu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Ukrainian_Friendship_Treaty#:~:tex t=The%20Treaty%20on%20Friendship%2C%20Cooperation, for%20territorial%20integrity%20and%20mutual

They stopped recognizing Ukraine as the same government they agreed with after the coup.

Speaking of treaties, why do you think DPR and LPR were party to the Minsk agreement? They only started existing when Russia recently recognized them, right?

Encroaching Death
09-22-2022, 06:56 PM
They stopped recognizing Ukraine as the same government they agreed with after the coup.

Speaking of treaties, why do you think DPR and LPR were party to the Minsk agreement? They only started existing when Russia recently recognized them, right?

What coup? Ukrainians were just protesting their corrupt leader.

Are you against protesting?

Kaveh
09-22-2022, 08:14 PM
They stopped recognizing Ukraine as the same government they agreed with after the coup.

Speaking of treaties, why do you think DPR and LPR were party to the Minsk agreement? They only started existing when Russia recently recognized them, right?

The Minsk agreement. Nuclear armed bully points a gun at you and you agree under duress

Seems the Ukrainians didn’t really agree. They’re scalping Russians as they flee en masse

Reiwa
09-22-2022, 08:15 PM
What coup? Ukrainians were just protesting their corrupt leader.

Are you against protesting?

Very popular.

Jibartik
09-22-2022, 11:35 PM
They’re actually pretty bad ass. Who knew

Ukraine became the centre of Soviet arms industry and high-tech research. The republic was also turned into a Soviet military outpost in the cold war, a territory crowded by military bases packed with the most up-to-date weapons systems. Such an important role resulted in a major influence of the local elite.

During WW2 they were like viking nazis and exterminated 1.5 million jews by gunfire there.

c'mon man.

Kaveh
09-23-2022, 12:34 AM
Sounds like Russia was dumb to invade them. Oh well, javelins were meant for commies one way or another

Reiwa
09-23-2022, 12:51 AM
Sounds like Russia was dumb to invade them. Oh well, javelins were meant for commies one way or another

How does a javelin strike? They have not sat idle while we implemented gender theory.

Kaveh
09-23-2022, 12:55 AM
A dumb ass Russian drives a tank into a hostile city on an open radio line and then gets incinerated

A Darwin Award so to speak

Encroaching Death
09-23-2022, 07:39 AM
China says Ukraine's borders should be respected.

pqtaHY4ASfc

MrSparkle001
09-23-2022, 10:08 AM
So what are the chances this fake vote to split from Ukraine and become part of Russia fails and they remain in Ukraine?

https://media4.giphy.com/media/eXOVOJLkK6G7S/giphy.gif

Encroaching Death
09-23-2022, 10:36 AM
So what are the chances this fake vote to split from Ukraine and become part of Russia fails and they remain in Ukraine?

https://media4.giphy.com/media/eXOVOJLkK6G7S/giphy.gif

It won't fail.

104% of the population will vote "Yes".

Reiwa
09-23-2022, 10:39 AM
It won't fail.

104% of the population will vote "Yes".

'Westerners make these accusations so frivolously; it is beyond our duty to continue to listen.'

Encroaching Death
09-23-2022, 10:45 AM
'Westerners make these accusations so frivolously; it is beyond our duty to continue to listen.'

At least have the common decency to hide your corruption better.

It's insulting.

Eastern despots are always like "The glorious leader won 102% of the vote, and oh yeah, he was born on a unicorn and has no butthole!"

Come on...at least try to treat us like we aren't drooling idiots.

Reiwa
09-23-2022, 10:47 AM
At least have the common decency to hide your corruption better.

It's insulting.

Eastern despots are always like "The glorious leader won 102% of the vote, and oh yeah, he was born on a unicorn and has no butthole!"

Come on...at least try to treat us like we aren't drooling idiots.

'Nyet' 'You do not qualify to the courtesy'

Encroaching Death
09-23-2022, 10:56 AM
'Nyet' 'You do not qualify to the courtesy'

Does Putin have a butthole?

The arrogant Western minds want to know.

Reiwa
09-23-2022, 11:10 AM
Does Putin have a butthole?

The arrogant Western minds want to know.

'Hide within your filth мошенник, we will not have it.'

Encroaching Death
09-23-2022, 11:13 AM
'Hide within your filth мошенник, we will not have it.'

Tu comes culo?

Reiwa
09-23-2022, 11:26 AM
Tu comes culo?

Vova 👊

Encroaching Death
09-23-2022, 11:28 AM
Vova 👊

?si o no?

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 01:59 AM
Lol Ukraine pulling diplomatic ties with Iran

Yikes, I hope Iran doesn’t get rekt by Ukraine next. The first ukrainian empire is going to be quite scary with emperor Klitschko at the helm

Jibartik
09-24-2022, 03:22 AM
You know any folks at or affected by the protests?

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 04:31 AM
I don’t know anyone personally, but I’ve heard from family that it’s been bad like 2009

Worse than the 2019 protests apparently

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 04:43 AM
Lol I was reading up about this and the internet told me 2019 was worse than 2009

Funny as I’ve never heard that. I guess 2009 made more of an impact on my esfahani family

Either way, this round is bad again. They blocked out the internet because they’ve been using live ammunition on protestors (per my family still there). That said, at this point I have more family in Australia than within Iran. I haven’t been back in a while and my wife and I just go to Georgia or Armenia now if we’re homesick

Such is the shit hole Iran has become. My children have never been there

magnetaress
09-24-2022, 07:45 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Ireland_1450.png?20180526031303

If you insist to make the comparison, happy to lend The Red Hand for Donbas' flag.

The problem with this map is that the blue areas kept becoming green on their own will and consent and the king of England had to keep sending fresh blue areas over by killing his own previous batches.

Hope this helps.

magnetaress
09-24-2022, 07:47 AM
Ruthenians are attested as an ethnicity prior to the advent of Ukraine. Ukraine was given to a people based on where they lived

Taking it back is referred to as genocide and ethnic cleansing. Hope this helps

You’ve never read life and fate? You might as well be illiterate my good irishman

SHe's not Irish.

magnetaress
09-24-2022, 07:52 AM
We should make a thread about Africa and how the colonials just made arbitrary borders on the contenanant regardless of the indigenous persons geographic distribution.

Encroaching Death
09-24-2022, 09:23 AM
Lol Ukraine pulling diplomatic ties with Iran

Yikes, I hope Iran doesn’t get rekt by Ukraine next. The first ukrainian empire is going to be quite scary with emperor Klitschko at the helm

Might be because of the Iranian drones that they recently found off the coast of the Black Sea.

I wish we were allied with Iran sometimes. It's a shame all that went down in the 1950s.

I wish were closer with India too - but that's another story. Some cool CIA stories during the Cold War in India. Like when agent stole documents detailing the T-72 tank. Real life James Bond shit.

Reiwa
09-24-2022, 10:39 AM
I wish were closer with India

Are you sure about that? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharatiya_Janata_Party)

https://i.imgur.com/9xzkWkg.png

Encroaching Death
09-24-2022, 11:28 AM
Are you sure about that? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharatiya_Janata_Party)

https://i.imgur.com/9xzkWkg.png

"The BJP is aligned with right-wing politics.."

Yes.

Encroaching Death
09-24-2022, 02:59 PM
Zelenskyy praised Blackrock and Goldman Sachs in his latest speech.

Maybe I should reconsider being Pro-Ukrainian...

Jibartik
09-24-2022, 03:04 PM
Guess we're going with this version of utopia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_culture

Encroaching Death
09-24-2022, 04:57 PM
I like to watch this guy's videos and imagine there's some brutish dude off camera pointing a gun at him.

Wonkie, you subbed to this guy?

lgYqusaO2Gg

Reiwa
09-24-2022, 04:59 PM
I like to watch this guy's videos and imagine there's some brutish dude off camera pointing a gun at him.

Wonkie, you subbed to this guy?

lgYqusaO2Gg

Nope. You guys act like I'm not dumb enough to arrive at these conclusions on my own.

It's just not true.

Encroaching Death
09-24-2022, 05:00 PM
Nope. You guys act like I'm not dumb enough to arrive at these conclusions on my own.

It's just not true.

Just breaking your balls, buddy. Come on :cool:

magnetaress
09-24-2022, 05:02 PM
The problem with this map is that the blue areas kept becoming green on their own will and consent and the king of England had to keep sending fresh blue areas over by killing his own previous batches.

Hope this helps.

SHe's not Irish.

We should make a thread about Africa and how the colonials just made arbitrary borders on the contenanant regardless of the indigenous persons geographic distribution.
Still no commentation from Reiwa. Sadges.

Jibartik
09-24-2022, 05:13 PM
Man, imagine if we have areal footage of tens to hundreds of thousands of russians surrendering en mass in one of those like dark techno song videos.

Like, reverse Braveheart charge of people running towards the Ukraine's dropping their armor and taking off their clothes surrendering lol

Jibartik
09-24-2022, 05:16 PM
I like to watch this guy's videos and imagine

This is what I imagine :o

https://i.imgur.com/ZuCk6tI.png

Cs4Gj7JsET4

Elizondo
09-24-2022, 05:16 PM
Russian/Ukraine war is an illusion

Just ask Botten

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 07:08 PM
Russian/Ukraine war is an illusion

Just ask Botten

If only that were true my still lives with his mother friend

Elizondo
09-24-2022, 07:16 PM
If only that were true my still lives with his mother friend

Mad Grandpa forever mad

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 07:17 PM
Man, imagine if we have areal footage of tens to hundreds of thousands of russians surrendering en mass in one of those like dark techno song videos.

Like, reverse Braveheart charge of people running towards the Ukraine's dropping their armor and taking off their clothes surrendering lol

I think the real action this week is in Iran

I’ve been around too long to think the government could fall, but I’m definitely hearing a sustained “it’s never been this bad” out of Esfahan

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 07:18 PM
Mad Grandpa forever mad

I pity you bud, you called someone a cockroach because he disagrees with you. Get help, you were meant for more than p99 forums

Get a job

Elizondo
09-24-2022, 07:22 PM
I pity you bud, you called someone a cockroach because he disagrees with you. Get help, you were meant for more than p99 forums

Get a job

You are incorrect Gramps

I called him a cockroach because he keeps making up arguments that I never made and then posts ambiguous one liners that supposedly refute fantasies that have been completely conjured up within his own mind

Hope that helps

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 07:29 PM
Praying for you dude

Go outside

Elizondo
09-24-2022, 07:32 PM
Praying for you dude

Go outside

Bro you always trying to personally attack me like a 5 old year and you're pushing 60

I just pity you and laugh

Hope that helps

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 07:37 PM
100% you live with your mom and call people cockroach online

Pokesan has at least 30 IQ points on you bro

Cmon bro get a job bro

Elizondo
09-24-2022, 07:41 PM
100% you live with your mom and call people cockroach online

Pokesan has at least 30 IQ points on you bro

Cmon bro get a job bro

lol old man triggered so badly

Stay angry grandpa

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 07:47 PM
Bro

Jibartik
09-24-2022, 08:43 PM
I think the real action this week is in Iran

I’ve been around too long to think the government could fall, but I’m definitely hearing a sustained “it’s never been this bad” out of Esfahan

yeah something thats stuck with me for the last couple of years is ive heard alot that the mosks are empty, and the youth doesnt GAF about the old guard, and all the old guard is all old. That's always made me wonder if a revolution is right around the corner.

I have been not trying to jynx it, but hoping this is it?

Reiwa
09-24-2022, 09:32 PM
yeah something thats stuck with me for the last couple of years is ive heard alot that the mosks are empty, and the youth doesnt GAF about the old guard, and all the old guard is all old. That's always made me wonder if a revolution is right around the corner.

I have been not trying to jynx it, but hoping this is it?

There would be a great harvest of wifeable women in the aftermath. Make your preparations.

Especially you @EnrichingDeath

Mblake1981
09-24-2022, 09:50 PM
Bro

https://i.imgur.com/RG1u4sh.png

Kaveh
09-24-2022, 09:54 PM
There would be a great harvest of wifeable women in the aftermath. Make your preparations.

Especially you @EnrichingDeath

lol

You guys are crazy wanting an Iranian wife. Especially since a couple million hot ass Ukrainians and Russians are about to be very lonely

My wife buys grapes that cost $20 a pound. Do you have any idea how expensive pomegranates are in alaska? Better take out a second mortgage if you want an Iranian woman, I doubt any of you can afford it

magnetaress
09-24-2022, 11:18 PM
Reiwa still v silent about Irland

Encroaching Death
09-25-2022, 05:53 AM
There would be a great harvest of wifeable women in the aftermath. Make your preparations.

Especially you @EnrichingDeath

I only date trans women.

Jibartik
09-25-2022, 02:04 PM
"russian leader goes into the woods because america is so bad ass"

HAHAHA

HAHA

HA

ha......

uh. wait... is that why? Or....

OcVoD4T0TyI

Kaveh
09-25-2022, 09:57 PM
I only date trans women.

Canadian shop teachers?

Kaveh
09-25-2022, 09:59 PM
Today I learned Latvia can only field 20,000 soldiers

Defending the Baltic states would be a real bitch. Good thing Poland is basically knights Templar territory now

Encroaching Death
09-25-2022, 09:59 PM
Canadian shop teachers?

He's a rightwing troll.

Guaranteed.

Encroaching Death
09-25-2022, 10:02 PM
Today I learned Latvia can only field 20,000 soldiers

Defending the Baltic states would be a real bitch. Good thing Poland is basically knights Templar territory now

Can you blame the Europeans?

Their continent will be defended until the last American falls.

They're playing 4D chess while we pay for their defense.

It's how they afford all that "free" healthcare.

Kaveh
09-26-2022, 03:20 AM
I don’t blame anyone but the dickheads invading territory and trying to annex it. Even Iran and China aren’t as heinous on the human rights front as Russia

Very smart of them to conscript all of their Muslims from the regions and give them military training and seething resentment. In about 20 years Dagestan is going to have 15 million khabibs murdering Russians for blood sport. Stupid mother fuckers

Encroaching Death
09-26-2022, 06:02 AM
I don’t blame anyone but the dickheads invading territory and trying to annex it. Even Iran and China aren’t as heinous on the human rights front as Russia

Very smart of them to conscript all of their Muslims from the regions and give them military training and seething resentment. In about 20 years Dagestan is going to have 15 million khabibs murdering Russians for blood sport. Stupid mother fuckers

Yep, to Russia, every problem is a nail so they use the hammer.

They throw their weight around so much and then they wonder why all their neighbors hate them so much.

They think the US is convincing them all to join NATO.

No Russia, it's your behavior that is convincing them.

Jibartik
09-26-2022, 01:08 PM
I don’t blame anyone but the dickheads invading territory and trying to annex it.

"I dont care about the drug suppliers, I only want us to spend money perpetually arresting drug dealers"

Kaveh
09-26-2022, 02:06 PM
Not a good analogy I don’t think

Russia sux. Them and the ayatollahs deserve one another

Horza
09-26-2022, 02:07 PM
Jib still accusing Biden of masterminding Putin's entire twenty year rule?

Jibartik
09-26-2022, 02:07 PM
No just you and him of bumbling the world into world war 3.

Kaveh
09-26-2022, 02:22 PM
Russia is gonna have to join NATO to keep Siberia out of Chinese hands

Just wait jib, when I’m eating jello in a nursing home the world is going to be quite interesting

Encroaching Death
09-26-2022, 02:45 PM
Russia is gonna have to join NATO to keep Siberia out of Chinese hands

I kind of want this timeline to happen.

India too. China wants to conquer both countries.

Jibartik
09-26-2022, 05:13 PM
Russia is gonna have to join NATO to keep Siberia out of Chinese hands

Just wait jib, when I’m eating jello in a nursing home the world is going to be quite interesting

Jesus will be here long before that dont you worry.

Kaveh
09-26-2022, 08:31 PM
Good because I don’t particularly like jello

Kaveh
09-26-2022, 08:34 PM
I kind of want this timeline to happen.

India too. China wants to conquer both countries.

I don’t. It means worsening conflict

But looking at a map, natural resources, and demography, it only makes sense

Jibartik
09-26-2022, 08:43 PM
Live by the sword die by the sword.

Jibartik
09-27-2022, 06:06 PM
lol we made it through the cold war then this generation does this.

https://i.imgur.com/mdiMCZf.png

https://i.imgur.com/OsKcir2.png

https://i.imgur.com/t4ySz8z.gif

teai
09-27-2022, 06:17 PM
Nuclear bombs do not exist and were one of the first examples of extreme use of propaganda on a population. Japan was firebombed severely. The ATOMIC option is pure theatrics to intimidate.

This is obvious because they were never used again. No one would believe it again. If atomic weapons did truly exist, you know for a fact that the USA would have became a severe campaign of world domination, and if not, would immediately have utilized this option as soon as it was made wind that another nation was coming close to, or actively stealing the secrets.

Nuclear power on the other hand was the true spy secrets stolen.

This is just all part of the same cycle, over and over, century after century.

Jibartik
09-27-2022, 06:33 PM
Makes sense, because iran not being able to make a bomb we made in 1940 seems more fake than any of that.

Reiwa
09-27-2022, 06:35 PM
Makes sense, because iran not being able to make a bomb we made in 1940 seems more fake than any of that.

You need magic rocks to make the nukeular. We don't let them have any. EZ.

Jibartik
09-27-2022, 06:36 PM
Russian mobilization announcement triggers huge drop in number of 'Counter-Strike: Global Offensive' players. (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/russian-mobilization-announcement-triggers-huge-drop-in-number-of-counter-strike-global-offensive-players-find-out-why/articleshow/94463885.cms)

The ultra rich are trading our friendship with russian gamers for some bullshit moneymaking scheme where we all go and die for them. '

DONT FALL FOR IT THEYRE ALL IN ON IT

Horza
09-27-2022, 08:04 PM
Only seven Jib posts in the last page and a half of the Putin's war thread? You're slacking off a bit there, comrade.

Jibartik
09-27-2022, 09:17 PM
Only seven Jib posts in the last page and a half of the Putin's war thread? You're slacking off a bit there, comrade.

auII5Qy7aYA

Reiwa
09-27-2022, 09:51 PM
As recent events in Ukraine show, there is every chance to win. In addition, she defends her territory. A strong and invincible small country.

👀

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 12:08 AM
99.23% voting yes

Not even Pokesan is dumb enough to believe that

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 01:06 AM
99.23% voting yes

Not even Pokesan is dumb enough to believe that

I'm reading that Sputnik site you recommended to find a way. 😊

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 01:11 AM
Potemkin War.

Slavs fighting Slavs to convince the world either one is any better.

ASAB

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 01:29 AM
I think Russia is gonna have problems in Dagestan down the road

Deplete your own military, force a million + into exile, and train your mountain dwelling Muslims how to fight

You can’t make this shit up as to how dumb it is

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 01:30 AM
Potemkin War.

Slavs fighting Slavs to convince the world either one is any better.

ASAB

You gonna admit Putin is bad if he uses a nuke?

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 01:33 AM
You gonna admit Putin is bad if he uses a nuke?

Annoying. I've already said Russia bad repeatedly.

Doesn't make Ukraine good.

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 01:39 AM
It’s gonna be a long war. Two sides with terrible strategy

Unless Russia takes Odessa. Then it’s over BIGLY

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 01:45 AM
all the world knows is we should risk global thermo nuclear death for everyone, becuase this time a country being invaded is white.

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 01:53 AM
Do you blame Erdogan for that? He’s given Ukraine their most advanced piece of military equipment so far

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 02:04 AM
He's a bloody murderer that the west ignores like all the bloody murderers they have in their hands in their pockets in the middle east. He's an extension of the west more than he is anything else. A shadow of a man, a trashcan in a cheap suit we have to let rape his peope and neighbors because it's all part of the bullshit house of cards the world banks want to steal your future with.

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 02:56 AM
He’s not an extension of the west dude

No one but Obama liked him and that was only for a year or two

People have agency

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 05:00 AM
is he or is he not in nato and has he or has he not murdered thousands

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 11:09 AM
Erdogan was born after Turkey joined NATO. He’ll be crucified after he attacks a Greek isle

Sadly we’ll (America) have to go and take him, but I’ll be happy to lead a charge into Constantinople

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 11:43 AM
I didnt ask when turkey joined nato, im talking about erdogan. Stop trying to change the subject.

Answer the question: Has he murdered, 10s of thousands of innocent people, WHILE the west supports him?

Answer the question. Dont try to deflect by pointing out the west is white supremist and will care when he does it to greeks (hypothetical strawman)

(yes dont you know by ukraine? we get involved if you attack white people becaues that is against our white supremist western agenda, and killing brown people IS our agenda, and he's being a good agent for the west.)

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 11:44 AM
lol I dont give a shit when turkey joined nato, im talking about erdogan. Stop trying to change the subject.

Has he murdered, 10s of thosuands of innocent people, WHILE the west supports him?

Turkiye should have a July 15 committee. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BClen_movement)

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 11:46 AM
Ironic erdogan gains power when the administration that is starting world war 3 after 4 years of no wars, was in the white house.

"#arabspring!" -obama

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 02:07 PM
The west doesn’t support Erdogan

NATO doesn’t have an expulsion mechanism so that’s why chronology is important

Hth

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 02:11 PM
Nato shouldnt exist. It started fucking ww3 the only thing it was designed to prevent.

It's a tool of the west and it supports tyranical murderers you're simping for right now.

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 02:32 PM
Erdogan and Putin are responsible for their own actions

You are the one who wants to accommodate Putin.

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 02:34 PM
haha *simps for erdogan while he murders tens of thousands of innocent civilians

"not my fault!"

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 02:37 PM
Had I been trump in 2020, Azerbaijan and Turkey would’ve been wiped off the map for restarting the Armenian genocide

You’re just afraid of fighting. Problem is, by not fighting you just make the fight worse later on. Bullies don’t respond to appeasement. You have to hit them

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 02:39 PM
You're damn straight im afraid of fighting. I dont have to prove Im tough by supporting other people dying from the saftey of my vacation, just to be able to say Im not afraid of fighting. I dont give a shit. Im totally anti fighting. And proud of it.

If I aws wrong, then where's the war with north korea?

It'd only happen as a result of the wests saber rattling, not because it was inevitable.

Another generation taht country would collapse, just like Iran.

Stop trying to pretend like the sword is mightier than LA PLUMA!

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 02:41 PM
haha *simps for erdogan while he murders tens of thousands of innocent civilians

"not my fault!"

Haha we better make NATO into a central government to stop him!

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 02:43 PM
10 districts to manage the globe!

https://i.imgur.com/vGGQzlm.png

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 04:32 PM
You're damn straight im afraid of fighting. I dont have to prove Im tough by supporting other people dying from the saftey of my vacation, just to be able to say Im not afraid of fighting. I dont give a shit. Im totally anti fighting. And proud of it.

If I aws wrong, then where's the war with north korea?

It'd only happen as a result of the wests saber rattling, not because it was inevitable.

Another generation taht country would collapse, just like Iran.

Stop trying to pretend like the sword is mightier than LA PLUMA!

They can collapse. They can’t have belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, or Moldova

Hope this helps. We should’ve killed hitler when he went into Czechoslovakia and Putin in the 2nd Chechen war

Basanos
09-28-2022, 05:11 PM
Bullies don’t respond to appeasement. You have to hit themThis is also the Antifa philosophy, and it's a good philosophy. Not about actually defeating them in the streets. It's about scaring the people who have those sentiments in their hearts, and were thinking about going out and participating, but since most of them are really just cowards they see people swallowing their teeth on the evening news and reconsider.

I've got to hand to Kyle Rittenhouse, he isn't the cowardly type of fascist. In fact, I doubt he's much of a fascist at all, just a dumb kid who got duped into being a foot soldier for a wealthy business owner who had insurance anyways. Sort of like all soldiers. It's kind of a tragedy in more ways than one.

Encroaching Death
09-28-2022, 07:48 PM
This is also the Antifa philosophy, and it's a good philosophy. Not about actually defeating them in the streets. It's about scaring the people who have those sentiments in their hearts, and were thinking about going out and participating, but since most of them are really just cowards they see people swallowing their teeth on the evening news and reconsider.

I've got to hand to Kyle Rittenhouse, he isn't the cowardly type of fascist. In fact, I doubt he's much of a fascist at all, just a dumb kid who got duped into being a foot soldier for a wealthy business owner who had insurance anyways. Sort of like all soldiers. It's kind of a tragedy in more ways than one.

It's a good strategy to use against an already physically deadly force.

Otherwise it just reinforces your opponents resolve and beliefs.

Rethalis
09-28-2022, 08:00 PM
This is also the Antifa philosophy, and it's a good philosophy. Not about actually defeating them in the streets. It's about scaring the people who have those sentiments in their hearts, and were thinking about going out and participating, but since most of them are really just cowards they see people swallowing their teeth on the evening news and reconsider.

I've got to hand to Kyle Rittenhouse, he isn't the cowardly type of fascist. In fact, I doubt he's much of a fascist at all, just a dumb kid who got duped into being a foot soldier for a wealthy business owner who had insurance anyways. Sort of like all soldiers. It's kind of a tragedy in more ways than one.

Antifa pussies can't jive one on one. Gotta sucker punch the fash' like gay Asians. They dont even try fighting one on one, they gotta mask up. Bunch of narcissistic, nihilistic children who just wants ruin the playground for not being first on the slide.

Imagine putting that effort to bettering their own lives instead of making it harder for others. Complete garbage.

Basanos
09-28-2022, 08:11 PM
It's a good strategy to use against an already physically deadly force.

Otherwise it just reinforces your opponents resolve and beliefs.The opponents in this case are the alt-right swastika-wearing fascists. The 'resolve' is mostly bundled up in 280 pound guys from Florida who can't make it up a flight of stairs, much less fight in the street. The 'beliefs' change daily.

Antifa pussies can't jive one on one. Gotta sucker punch the fash' like gay Asians. They dont even try fighting one on one, they gotta mask up. Bunch of narcissistic, nihilistic children who just wants ruin the playground for not being first on the slide.

Imagine putting that effort to bettering their own lives instead of making it harder for others. Complete garbage.Too bad you guys don't apply this type of argument to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Making the lives of fascists harder is a noble endeavor, especially if they self-sacrifice in the process.

Anyways, sorry you got your ass beat by a few nineteen year olds, but anyone who thinks 'fights should be fair' has obviously never been in a fight. The streets are not the UFC and they are not movies. The people that you have to fight as a noodle-armed antifa supersoldier may often be wearing body armor, have weapons, and have the full force of the corrupt law behind them if you fail

Let us also remember that Joe Biden declared those antifa supersoldiers domestic terrorists, so any that get busted these days are incredibly courageous heroes

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 08:13 PM
Let us also remember that Joe Biden declared those antifa supersoldiers domestic terrorists, so any that get busted these days are incredibly courageous heroes

😎🍦

Rethalis
09-28-2022, 08:17 PM
The opponents in this case are the alt-right swastika-wearing fascists. The 'resolve' is mostly bundled up in 280 pound guys from Florida who can't make it up a flight of stairs, much less fight in the street. The 'beliefs' change daily.

Too bad you guys don't apply this type of argument to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Making the lives of fascists harder is a noble endeavor, especially if they self-sacrifice in the process.

Anyways, sorry you got your ass beat by a few nineteen year olds, but anyone who thinks 'fights should be fair' has obviously never been in a fight. The streets are not the UFC and they are not movies. The people that you have to fight as a noodle-armed antifa supersoldier may often be wearing body armor, have weapons, and have the full force of the corrupt law behind them if you fail

Let us also remember that Joe Biden declared those antifa supersoldiers domestic terrorists, so any that get busted these days are incredibly courageous heroes

Still a bunch of pussies who think everybody they disagree with is fash'

nothing noble about sucker punching people with cameras and burning neighborhoods down.

Hamas can go fuck itself, Isreal is helping defeat the fascist Hamas of Palestine.

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 08:18 PM
Hamas can go fuck itself, Isreal is helping defeat the fascist Hamas of Palestine.

Basanos
09-28-2022, 08:30 PM
Still a bunch of pussies who think everybody they disagree with is fash'

nothing noble about sucker punching people with cameras and burning neighborhoods down.

Hamas can go fuck itself, Isreal is helping defeat the fascist Hamas of Palestine.The Alpha male positions of 'being afraid of cities' and 'being afraid of nineteen year olds'

I love conservatives online, they are too simple to tell when they're satirizing themselves

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 08:42 PM
The Alpha male positions of 'being afraid of cities' and 'being afraid of nineteen year olds'

I love conservatives online, they are too simple to tell when they're satirizing themselves

rob pls (https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/wil8c3/meanwhile_in_chicagousa/)

Encroaching Death
09-28-2022, 08:48 PM
rob pls (https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/wil8c3/meanwhile_in_chicagousa/)

Hell yeah, being a slave to a totalitarian state is sick

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 08:50 PM
19 year olds are all MK ultra'd these days so its smart to be afraid of them.

Encroaching Death
09-28-2022, 08:53 PM
19 year olds are all MK ultra'd these days so its smart to be afraid of them.

It's a shame to see all the younger people simp to authority.

As well as seeing Rage Against The Machine simping for The Machine.

Rethalis
09-28-2022, 08:54 PM
The Alpha male positions of 'being afraid of cities' and 'being afraid of nineteen year olds'

I love conservatives online, they are too simple to tell when they're satirizing themselves

cities are shit holes. Nobody wants to live in them, 19 year olds are dumb as fuck so having some discretion when being around them is a good idea.

Basanos
09-28-2022, 08:54 PM
rob pls (https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/wil8c3/meanwhile_in_chicagousa/)I'm not afraid of nineteen year olds or cities, Rethalis is

I dunno what the hell them kids are going on about with all the flags but if I saw them doing that my response probably wouldn't be "I am in mortal danger" but "oh, real life trolling"

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 08:55 PM
It's a shame to see all the younger people simp to authority.

As well as seeing Rage Against The Machine simping for The Machine.

Fuck you I will do what they tell me!


https://i.imgur.com/JnFLN9Q.png

Basanos
09-28-2022, 08:59 PM
cities are shit holes. Nobody wants to live in them, 19 year olds are dumb as fuck so having some discretion when being around them is a good idea.Like I said, afraid of cities and children. We called that being a coward where I grew up. This, from the fellas that worship John Wayne

As of 2021, 4.46 billion people live in urban areas, and 3.42 billion live in rural areas globally.

Rethalis
09-28-2022, 09:06 PM
Like I said, afraid of cities and children. We called that being a coward where I grew up. This, from the fellas that worship John Wayne

pretty cowardly to mask up and gang up on people, throw punches from behind. So afraid of having cameras on them they have to beat up gay Asians. Then they get all pissy when one of their "commrades" eats lead. Tools all of them.

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 09:07 PM
There are like 2 decent cities in the world.

The rest are overated stripmalls or junkyards piled on top of each other.

Rethalis
09-28-2022, 09:09 PM
There are like 2 decent cities in the world.

The rest are overated stripmalls or junkyards piled on top of each other.

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 09:11 PM
pretty cowardly to mask up and gang up on people, throw punches from behind. So afraid of having cameras on them they have to beat up gay Asians. Then they get all pissy when one of their "commrades" eats lead. Tools all of them.

Reinhoel had it coming. Nearby to me.

Basanos
09-28-2022, 09:15 PM
pretty cowardly to mask up and gang up on people, throw punches from behind. So afraid of having cameras on them they have to beat up gay Asians. Then they get all pissy when one of their "commrades" eats lead. Tools all of them.Soft, easy life confirmed. Not useful in a fight.

The state you want to build would have you piloting a desk, unless of course that desk is in a building in a capital city of a state. Then, obviously, you couldn't muster the courage to enter.

Especially if there were teenagers outside of the building! Oh no!!!

Rethalis
09-28-2022, 09:31 PM
Soft, easy life confirmed. Not useful in a fight.

The state you want to build would have you piloting a desk, unless of course that desk is in a building in a capital city of a state. Then, obviously, you couldn't muster the courage to enter.

Especially if there were teenagers outside of the building! Oh no!!!

I may be past my prime and get my ass beat, but I will throw down. But of course it would take like five or six of you to muster the courage to throw the first punch.

There is one thing we have in common and that is I hate the bureaucracy.

But you and your ilk are not driven by some greater good to tear the country down. Your organization going back decades has always been a hateful, resentful group, resentful of others who have power and think they can wield that power morally and justly. Get a grip, you are wrong and deluded.

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 09:32 PM
Another leftist calls a conservative soft, and the conservative says, "sure I dont fight"

parties flipped.

Basanos
09-28-2022, 09:43 PM
I may be past my prime and get my ass beat, but I will throw down. But of course it would take like five or six of you to muster the courage to throw the first punch.

There is one thing we have in common and that is I hate the bureaucracy.

But you and your ilk are not driven by some greater good to tear the country down. Your organization going back decades has always been a hateful, resentful group, resentful of others who have power and think they can wield that power morally and justly. Get a grip, you are wrong and deluded.I'm forty years old. I'm not out in the streets fighting either. But I don't yet run away in fear from children and cities. If I knew I had to throw down with someone, though, you can bet your ass if I can make the fight unfair as hell I will. That's a reliable way to win a fight. You watch too many movies.

Anyways, the rest of what you said is nonsense and can be safely ignored, as it is just bitter opinion. This "organization" doesn't go back decades, you don't even know my name, much less what "organizations" I associate with.

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 09:44 PM
This is also the Antifa philosophy, and it's a good philosophy. Not about actually defeating them in the streets. It's about scaring the people who have those sentiments in their hearts, and were thinking about going out and participating, but since most of them are really just cowards they see people swallowing their teeth on the evening news and reconsider.

I've got to hand to Kyle Rittenhouse, he isn't the cowardly type of fascist. In fact, I doubt he's much of a fascist at all, just a dumb kid who got duped into being a foot soldier for a wealthy business owner who had insurance anyways. Sort of like all soldiers. It's kind of a tragedy in more ways than one.

Bringing street level violence to protests in the US isn’t the same as stopping very real genocide committed at the whims of dictators

I also trust neither side to adjudicate who is the bully in the United States. Antifa or proud boys, you’re an unemployed moron either way.

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 09:45 PM
Antifa pussies can't jive one on one. Gotta sucker punch the fash' like gay Asians. They dont even try fighting one on one, they gotta mask up. Bunch of narcissistic, nihilistic children who just wants ruin the playground for not being first on the slide.

Imagine putting that effort to bettering their own lives instead of making it harder for others. Complete garbage.

Proud boys mask up too

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 09:46 PM
Masks > vaX

Masks are about freedom. Your ability to control YOUR security.

Of course there is some fucked up brainwashing to make every citizen hate them.

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 09:52 PM
I guess

Let’s just hold all protestors to the same standards. Obese / unemployed

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 09:55 PM
I like to think of them, as agents to be used during republican presidencies to do what the turner diaries plan was to the establishment in that book (destabilize the lives of citizens so they hate the leadership).

:o

Basanos
09-28-2022, 10:11 PM
Bringing street level violence to protests in the US isn’t the same as stopping very real genocide committed at the whims of dictators

I also trust neither side to adjudicate who is the bully in the United States. Antifa or proud boys, you’re an unemployed moron either way.You know why I am unemployed right now, and I am not a genius but I am also not a moron.

I'd argue that Antifa's actions within America are about preventing the rise of fascism (or attempting to) than some kind of rebellion against existing fascism. I do not think America is equivalent to 1930's Germany no matter how many Mother Jones articles I read.

Anyways, CIA agent Noam Chomsky largely agrees with you, and he's no moron.

Street level violence nonwithstanding, what are we supposed to be doing? Vote them out? How do we vote out the Supreme Court? I'd love to see a several million strong march on DC, just like I imagine the alt-right guys would, but we're all trying to herd cats out here

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 10:12 PM
You know why I am unemployed right now,

Because a democrat is prsident so all the riot agents are on summer break? :o

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 10:16 PM
You know why I am unemployed right now, and I am not a genius but I am also not a moron.

I'd argue that Antifa's actions within America are about preventing the rise of fascism (or attempting to) than some kind of rebellion against existing fascism. I do not think America is equivalent to 1930's Germany no matter how many Mother Jones articles I read.

Anyways, CIA agent Noam Chomsky largely agrees with you, and he's no moron.

Street level violence nonwithstanding, what are we supposed to be doing? Vote them out? How do we vote out the Supreme Court? I'd love to see a several million strong march on DC, just like I imagine the alt-right guys would, but we're all trying to herd cats out here

I wasn’t referring to you. That wasn’t personal, it was a slight against people who protest on a regular basis

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 10:17 PM
I have a serious theory on why unemployment is the way it is.

people who would normally work to maintain their lifestyle, and save for the future, are now just realizing they can maintain their lifestyle without working, and just not save for the future.. and since everyone who has saved for the future is discovering that they have no future it's becoming more and more popular.

Basanos
09-28-2022, 10:23 PM
I don't receive unemployment payments. I'm just not working. On paper I still work. They even pay my health insurance premium, which is nice. They aren't required to do that, to my understanding.

But yeah, I agree with your sentiment, Jib. I don't fully endorse universal basic income, unlike some other leftist types, that's kinda one of the reasons.

I would rather do away with currency entirely, but that's not gonna happen in our lifetimes unless shit's really hit the fan.

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 10:25 PM
I'd argue that Antifa's actions within America are about preventing the rise of fascism (or attempting to) than some kind of rebellion against existing fascism. I do not think America is equivalent to 1930's Germany no matter how many Mother Jones articles I read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_fascism

In 1930, Kurt Schumacher of the SPD accused Communists of being "red-lacquered doppelgangers of the Nazis".

Basanos
09-28-2022, 10:49 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_fascismInteresting, if cryptic. I've run into Strasserites online trying to infiltrate leftist spaces. Am I supposed to be picking a side or something? Trotsky and Stalin were both mass murderers, I'd rather not.

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 11:00 PM
Trump seems to know USA didnt do the pipeline

https://i.imgur.com/auNjwhs.jpg

Kaveh
09-28-2022, 11:05 PM
… obviously we didn’t do it

Basanos
09-28-2022, 11:07 PM
Do not make matters worse with the pipeline blowup. I will head up group???

The man has a way with words

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 11:10 PM
(brilliant!)

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 11:29 PM
Do not make matters worse with the pipeline blowup. I will head up group???

The man has a way with words

I think he wants international meetings cuz he misses the office. Poor fella needs his diet coke button.

… obviously we didn’t do it

No, we didn't. Too much paperwork to get away with it even if it was thought to be in our interest.

Jibartik
09-28-2022, 11:39 PM
Who did it, the russian special forces?

https://i.imgur.com/LJT5DHm.png

Reiwa
09-28-2022, 11:49 PM
Who did it, the russian special forces?

https://i.imgur.com/LJT5DHm.png

Probably the 'war' is impeding the usual and necessary maintenance operations on the pipeline and maybe that is its purpose.

Fuck the House of Saud.

Kaveh
09-29-2022, 12:06 AM
Who did it, the russian special forces?

https://i.imgur.com/LJT5DHm.png

Russia or Ukraine are the most obvious. Ukrainian involvement would piss everyone off

Russia just lies and denies and people gobble up their BS. Gives them cover to let Europe freeze. If it is Russia, it means Putin has given up every restoring ties with the EU. It’s bad regardless of who did it

(Not us)

Reiwa
09-29-2022, 12:12 AM
Russia or Ukraine are the most obvious. Ukrainian involvement would piss everyone off

Russia just lies and denies and people gobble up their BS. Gives them cover to let Europe freeze. If it is Russia, it means Putin has given up every restoring ties with the EU. It’s bad regardless of who did it

(Not us)

Drop your Russia hateboner for a sec and think about who this benefits financially.

It ain't Russia cuz they can't sell anything to Europe while their pipe is broken.

Kaveh
09-29-2022, 12:13 AM
They shut off flow anyway

Kaveh
09-29-2022, 12:14 AM
Russia is Iran and North Korea

They are pieces of shit. You guys are delusional

Jibartik
09-29-2022, 12:14 AM
There are two sides.

If ukraine blew up the pipe, that means the USA gave the OK.

ergo: biden blew up the pipe.

Jibartik
09-29-2022, 12:15 AM
Russia is Iran and North Korea

They are pieces of shit. You guys are delusional

you're delusional, nobody disagree's with that.

We just know that the stupid idea of war is not going to stop them and only empowers them.

Kaveh
09-29-2022, 12:16 AM
If the US were as Machiavellian as you seem to think, trump and Marjorie Taylor green died in “car accidents” a long time ago. We aren’t the puppet master behind the scenes of every shitty action taken by midget dictators

Putin does was he does because he’s 5’3” and Russian culture is fear and paranoia. Same shit in Shia Iran

Reiwa
09-29-2022, 12:17 AM
Russia is Iran and North Korea

They are pieces of shit. You guys are delusional

Neither are party to BRICS so no.

Kaveh
09-29-2022, 12:19 AM
Russia is actually categorically worse than Iran, so you’re right

Jibartik
09-29-2022, 12:21 AM
I hate the idea that there is someone who thinks the military industrial complex, and the united states doesn't run the world after the last 20 years alone, let alone since world war 2

Basanos
09-29-2022, 01:36 AM
I thought this was an interesting read, for those who are into this Russian espionage in the modern era kind of stuff. It's like a month old but it was new to me, and some of the oddities in this lady's story make me curious about what the hell the GRU is thinking. I am not an expert, but it seems like mistakes were made.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/08/25/socialite-widow-jeweller-spy-how-a-gru-agent-charmed-her-way-into-nato-circles-in-italy/

Jibartik
09-29-2022, 01:44 AM
well, we'll have to believe the guys that sent people into war with half tanks of gas and ammo because the officers sold their supplies on the black market because they didnt know they were invaliding a country, then proceeded to have their own men drown to death in tanks, lost a battleship in a land war, and still have no air support, somehow.. managed to blow up a pipeline in international waters without being seen, while the world watches them.