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Kaveh
09-29-2022, 09:05 AM
They have ICBMS and pretty advanced submarines
I think they can figure out sabotage of a pipeline. But who knows man, maybe Poland did it so Europe didn’t puss out in the winter. We didn’t do it. If we had, we would’ve done it along time ago or just sanctioned it like trump did with Nord stream II
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 09:06 AM
Why do you hate the United States so much btw? Why don’t you leave?
Skarne
09-29-2022, 09:09 AM
They don't need submarines to sabotage nord. They have maintenance bots that can do the job easily because of all their access points. Strap a bomb or plastic explosive to one of those, and its easily done.
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 09:59 AM
I didn’t mean they did it with a sub or an ICBM, I meant they are not complete idiots. They’re definitely bottom of the barrel, but sabotaging a pipeline is pretty basic
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 12:49 PM
The russian army cant even open a door.
If there is no clear evidence, this was definitely a USA sabotage.
This would be the 1 thing Biden promised, he delivered.
Reiwa
09-29-2022, 12:51 PM
The russian army cant even open a door.
If there is no clear evidence, this was definitely a USA sabotage.
This would be the 1 thing Biden promised, he delivered.
(Germany is arguing with Russia over who has to pay to maintain the pipeline)
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 12:52 PM
I wish we were that bad ass
“You Europeans have been pussies for long enough.”
Alas, it’s just Russians being Russian. They think they can use novachuk or push people out of windows and no one will notice. They’re all time dumb
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 12:54 PM
Secretly blowing up a pipeline in international waters is a bit more elaborate than throwing someone out a window.
Danth
09-29-2022, 12:55 PM
Why do you hate the United States so much btw? Why don’t you leave?
He keeps saying parties flipped so I assume he's doing his part in adopting philosophy that's usually associated with his opposition.
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 12:57 PM
Kaveh voted for biden, and if you question the USA he says why do you hate america.
BIDEN VOTERS ARE ALL OF THE GOP IDIOTS.
That was the party flip.
All the dummies that were pro bush and iraq and afghanstan and patriot act because they are all cowards who need mommy to give them milk call me anti american for saying war is bad.
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 01:00 PM
You think we have the entire sea floor covered by CCTV or something? The international waters part means nothing except that it’s easier to pull off as it’s not necessarily regularly patrolled
It’s also not a secret. Russia probably did this, no one else is this big a scumbag
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 01:02 PM
Kaveh voted for biden, and if you question the USA he says why do you hate america.
BIDEN VOTERS ARE ALL OF THE GOP IDIOTS.
That was the party flip.
All the dummies that were pro bush and iraq and afghanstan and patriot act because they are all cowards who need mommy to give them milk call me anti american for saying war is bad.
Being a pussy makes war more likely though. Why don’t you get that?
Biden is hilarious dude, he has dementia and you think he’s plotting against pipelines
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 01:03 PM
No, that's a stupid question a child would ask.
I think that russia is not capable of driving a submarine to nord 2 without us knowing about it.
Reiwa
09-29-2022, 01:07 PM
What's the pressure like in an undersea pipeline?
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 01:08 PM
What's the pressure like in an undersea pipeline?
Why do you hate america!!?!?!?!?!?!? leave if you dont like it so much!!!!!!
-democrats in 2022
Danth
09-29-2022, 01:13 PM
I think that russia is not capable of driving a submarine to nord 2 without us knowing about it.
Which is probably true. The U.S. had SOSUS way back in the 50's. It's been replaced, but whatever they're using now is doubtlessly far more capable.
Reiwa
09-29-2022, 01:13 PM
Why do you hate america!!?!?!?!?!?!? leave if you dont like it so much!!!!!!
-democrats in 2022
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 01:15 PM
So what are the going theories?
1. 75 year old alcoholics drove a sub, fired off explosives without being detected?
2. drove a secret frogman group of 75 year old alcoholics that brought 100-600kg of explosives to the pipe without being detected?
3. 75 year old alcoholics dropped 100-600kg of explosives into the toilet, set a timer, and flushed it?
4. the incredibly advanced, and control all the intelligence and satalites, witht he most advanced military in the world, sabataged the enemies pipe, the president promised would end no matter what, and when asked how, said "somehow"
Thinking 4 is most likely, or 3... That is not anti american.
It's not pro russian.
It's not anything! I dont even have an opinion if the USA did it, Id just like to know??
wtf is wrong with that kaveh?
You against people knowing things, so it keeps them on your level?
Basanos
09-29-2022, 01:43 PM
Why do you hate america!!?!?!?!?!?!? leave if you dont like it so much!!!!!!
-democrats in 2022I get told to leave America all the time. My response is usually "but then how will I turn America into a glorious socialist state?"
Remix accordingly to your beliefs.
I will never leave this country. I have a love/hate relationship with it. America is my abusive spouse. She's violent and more than a little crazy, but she is wild in the sack.
I will take vacations again someday.
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 01:44 PM
I get told to leave America all the time.
yeah me too by GOP voters before they jumped ship when trump got elected and now they run the DNC which is why biden voters say it now.
Basanos
09-29-2022, 02:18 PM
Sure. Like I have always said, liberals are generally conservatives with more correct beliefs on social issues, but otherwise just as right wing as most Trump voters.
Trump voters don't want to hear it. They need them to be their enemies. Because if they have to consider that maybe their enemies are the people they support, that results in the thing conservatives are most allergic to: self-reflection.
Liberals DEFINITELY don't want to hear this. They think they're the saviors of America. They need those conservatives to be their enemies, too. Otherwise, that means they're rednecks. Liberals are terrified of rednecks. Not all conservatives are rednecks, obviously, but liberals certainly treat them as such. "Flyover states", "we should cut off federal aid to Florida", "those inbred hicks don't know what's good for them", "i like all music except rap and country", shit like that.
Both groups are avoiding the truth. It manifests in hundreds of ways.
It's lonely on the far left.
Reiwa
09-29-2022, 03:09 PM
"we should cut off federal aid to Florida" (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/09/29/president-joseph-r-biden-jr-approves-florida-disaster-declaration/)
:rolleyes:
Basanos
09-29-2022, 03:29 PM
:rolleyes:White house has strategic advisors, I am referring to liberal everyday schmucks.
Reiwa
09-29-2022, 03:36 PM
White house has strategic advisors, I am referring to liberal everyday schmucks.
Empty gas. They voted for him, he speaks for them. No further involvement on their part.
Encroaching Death
09-29-2022, 03:43 PM
It's lovely in Florida right now.
Picking up branches in my yard rn.
Not an oppressive regime in sight (other than the hurricane)
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 07:32 PM
Why do you hate america!!?!?!?!?!?!? leave if you dont like it so much!!!!!!
-democrats in 2022
You misunderstand me. You think the US is evil. It clearly causes you mental anguish. Perhaps you’d be better not contributing?
I hear Russia needs people
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 07:35 PM
So what are the going theories?
1. 75 year old alcoholics drove a sub, fired off explosives without being detected?
2. drove a secret frogman group of 75 year old alcoholics that brought 100-600kg of explosives to the pipe without being detected?
3. 75 year old alcoholics dropped 100-600kg of explosives into the toilet, set a timer, and flushed it?
4. the incredibly advanced, and control all the intelligence and satalites, witht he most advanced military in the world, sabataged the enemies pipe, the president promised would end no matter what, and when asked how, said "somehow"
Thinking 4 is most likely, or 3... That is not anti american.
It's not pro russian.
It's not anything! I dont even have an opinion if the USA did it, Id just like to know??
wtf is wrong with that kaveh?
You against people knowing things, so it keeps them on your level?
The fact that you think this needed a submarine and that “international waters” means anything is why there’s no point arguing about it. I’m not saying the Russians did it, it’s just that they’re the ones holding 99.23% referenda and sending cruise missiles at hospitals and cities. It’s fairly obvious who would do this, and it’s not obvious why anyone else would
Joe Biden is calling for dead Congress people to join him on stage. He probably thinks Nord stream is the brothel where Hunter gets pissed on
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 07:37 PM
The fact that you think this needed a submarine and that “international waters” means anything is why there’s no point arguing about it.
There is no point in arguing about it because that'd be stupid to argue with me about asking questions. Now welcome to being grownup.
I would love to hear you explain how you think it went down though. That'd be fun.
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 07:43 PM
I have no idea. I work for a living and have a wife I’ve never cheated on and children I love. I can’t think like a Russian. But the people currently annexing territory and press ganging people into being cannon fodder as they launch cruise missiles at dams to purposefully make ukrainian cities like fort myers absolutely could and would make it happen
How do you propose the US did it? And why? I’m just asking questions
Basanos
09-29-2022, 07:46 PM
How do you propose the US did it? And why? I’m just asking questionsCan't say why but I have a theory on the how.
https://i.imgur.com/HO2Tkc0.jpeg
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 07:47 PM
I have no idea. I work for a living and have a wife
shutup you post here for hours a day
How do you propose the US did it? And why? I’m just asking questions
Why? Biden said he would and russia is our enemy and he just cut off their hope of rekindling a connection with the west.
How? American military = capable
russian military = idiot losrs I wouldnt believe wouldnt have been caught on satalte images.
Never, id never believe that.
If you're such a putin simp fine sure he used super invisible space lasers he leased from isreal to shoot them unseen by all.
Kaveh
09-29-2022, 07:51 PM
Can't say why but I have a theory on the how.
https://i.imgur.com/HO2Tkc0.jpeg
She does look like she’d have gills
magnetaress
09-29-2022, 11:04 PM
Probably some weird euro eco terrorists blew themselves up with money they got from the CIA (who has a history of blowing pipelines btw (the CIA)) and the Russians and since they killed themselves in the process of their own stupidity it explains why no one really officially is taking credit and why everyone is just speculating.
Jibartik
09-29-2022, 11:06 PM
It was obviously the dudes that blew up the guide stones with tannerite they are fricken like ninjas able to disappear into the shadows.
magnetaress
09-29-2022, 11:20 PM
P funny
Thx 4 the laughs btw made traversing the hurricane ian portal to this next layer of hell hole reality worth the effort
MrSparkle001
09-30-2022, 09:02 AM
Russia annexed parts of Ukraine in a sham ballot
https://i.imgur.com/dGVNfYT.jpg
Who was vice president when this was tweeted? It was early into the second term of which president and vice president?
magnetaress
09-30-2022, 09:04 AM
Russia annexed parts of Ukraine in a sham ballot
https://i.imgur.com/dGVNfYT.jpg
Who was vice president when this was tweeted?
Hillary?
Reiwa
09-30-2022, 10:27 AM
Russia annexed parts of Ukraine in a sham ballot
https://i.imgur.com/dGVNfYT.jpg
Who was vice president when this was tweeted? It was early into the second term of which president and vice president?
That's a Syria tweet not Crimea.
Bush left the work unfinished. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party_(Syrian-dominated_faction))
Jibartik
09-30-2022, 12:12 PM
The job of a Democrat is to carry on Bush‘s legacy no matter what!!!
Wait a minute that was seven years after bush lol
Jibartik
09-30-2022, 01:18 PM
Why do you think the USA wont get nuked in the next 3 years:
1. Russia will collapse and become a new country
2. Russia will withdraw and become like north korea
3. The war will come to a peaceful end
4. Nukes are mostly fake and wont make it
5. ???
MrSparkle001
09-30-2022, 01:50 PM
That's a Syria tweet not Crimea.
Bush left the work unfinished. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party_(Syrian-dominated_faction))
Of course it's not about Crimea now. This situation wasn't even conceived of in 2013 by anyone but maybe Putin, if he planned that far ahead.
The key to this is "unknowingly". They won't even know they're doing it.
Jibartik
09-30-2022, 02:38 PM
this a cool video about the pipeline so far
YUxJbjAnU4Q
Jibartik
09-30-2022, 03:36 PM
Putin today:
https://i.imgur.com/XPURFvH.png
Encroaching Death
10-01-2022, 08:04 AM
d8-sffW0xT8
LordVictor
10-01-2022, 08:28 AM
Lets suppose that KGB dwarf used nukes and now, everyone close to Russia wanna get its nukes. Could KGB Dwarf do anything to prevent nuclear proliferation in its neighbors?
Encroaching Death
10-01-2022, 08:36 AM
Lets suppose that KGB dwarf used nukes and now, everyone close to Russia wanna get its nukes. Could KGB Dwarf do anything to prevent nuclear proliferation in its neighbors?
Who is KGB Dwarf? Putin?
I don't think they could prevent anything after using nukes, no.
They could threaten to use them again, I suppose.
LordVictor
10-01-2022, 08:43 AM
Who is KGB Dwarf? Putin?
I don't think they could prevent anything after using nukes, no.
They could threaten to use them again, I suppose.
Yep. KGB Dwarf = Pooteen
But after using an nuke mainly against an country which gave up its nukes in exchange of security grantees which RU blatantly violated, I think that we will gonna see a huge nuclear proliferation among countries close to Russia and my guess is that if this 300k poorly trained conscripts fails to do anything, he will gonna use nukes. RU is already down to T62.
Encroaching Death
10-01-2022, 08:46 AM
Yep. KGB Dwarf = Pooteen
But after using an nuke mainly against an country which gave up its nukes in exchange of security grantees which RU blatantly violated, I think that we will gonna see a huge nuclear proliferation among countries close to Russia and my guess is that if this 300k poorly trained conscripts fails to do anything, he will gonna use nukes. RU is already down to T62.
If Russia uses a nuke, I think all bets will be off - no amount of treaties or laws will prevent Russia's neighbors from getting nukes themselves.
I certainly wouldn't blame them.
Kaveh
10-01-2022, 01:36 PM
d8-sffW0xT8
I’ve always wondering about Putin cozying up to Kadyrov. The gamble of pacifying the Islamic parts of “Russia” through authoritarian Islamists who boost the local birthrate seems transparently bad for Russia. Having 30% of your next generation not be Russian isn’t smart, but what do I know. Now let’s give them disproportionate military training…
Kaveh
10-01-2022, 01:40 PM
Who is KGB Dwarf? Putin?
I don't think they could prevent anything after using nukes, no.
They could threaten to use them again, I suppose.
I doubt even China would be OK with them using nukes. China needs Korean, German, and Japanese supply chains. And obviously American consumers
Russia is bad for business. They’ll probably still have Iran and Syria as friends though, assuming Iran doesn’t collapse. IRGC’s intelligence head was killed in an attack in the balochistan region. I’m not optimistic, but these protests there could be the real deal
Jibartik
10-01-2022, 02:40 PM
Does that no russia in 20 years video say that the norad pipelines being destroyed ensures the destruction of russia?
The only thing stopping nukes at this point is likely going to be soldiers laying down their arms, or putin.
China will say its bad but not care, they wont do anything about it but say its bad.
Then they will use that to threaten nukes if anyone bothers them while they take taiwan, so it'd prob be a come up over all.
Also their industry excells at rebuilding from the ground up, so being able to do that in russia would only empower china.
Jibartik
10-01-2022, 04:52 PM
FMECmLXXPrs
🤦
https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/xsswzy/by_ivan_okhlobystin_motivate_a_crowd_into/
Kaveh
10-01-2022, 09:57 PM
Does that no russia in 20 years video say that the norad pipelines being destroyed ensures the destruction of russia?
The only thing stopping nukes at this point is likely going to be soldiers laying down their arms, or putin.
China will say its bad but not care, they wont do anything about it but say its bad.
Then they will use that to threaten nukes if anyone bothers them while they take taiwan, so it'd prob be a come up over all.
Also their industry excells at rebuilding from the ground up, so being able to do that in russia would only empower china.
China doesn’t want a nuclear war in Europe. That would almost necessitate western military action. It would also have us putting an embargo on Russian hydrocarbons and we’d tell China and India it’s us or them, you keep buying their goods and we sanction everything you make
China isn’t that stupid dude. They are slowly making progress on everything, seeing the Russians undo that would piss them off. They still need our markets for the time being
In any case, I am not saying Russia for sure won’t use a nuke. They are escalating and signaling that they won’t de-escalate. That’s bad since they are retards
Jibartik
10-01-2022, 09:58 PM
Of course china does not want a nuclear war in europe but if one happens they're better set to deal with it than we are, so let me repeat myself, they will say it is bad but not care.
Kaveh
10-01-2022, 10:00 PM
We have food, water, and resources
China has maybe one of those. How do you figure? The Chinese want to supplant us at the top of the global order we’ve created. They don’t want to throw it out
They’re smarter than Russia and Iran
Danth
10-01-2022, 10:18 PM
In any case, I am not saying Russia for sure won’t use a nuke. They are escalating and signaling that they won’t de-escalate. That’s bad since they are retards
They might be dumb but I don't think they're so dumb as to use anything really major when most of the fallout is going to blow back their way. If they want to go on being the Big Bad Bear international bad guy they might conceivably use some small tactical nuclear weapon as a political middle finger to the west. Those types of things, kiloton range or less, that's small enough nobody's going to start WW3 over it. Seems like political suicide though. Cold war-era anti-nuclear propaganda (much of it quietly funded by the Soviets) was so effective it's still mostly off the table.
Danth
Jibartik
10-01-2022, 10:25 PM
We have food, water, and resources
China has maybe one of those. How do you figure? The Chinese want to supplant us at the top of the global order we’ve created. They don’t want to throw it out
They’re smarter than Russia and Iran
we dont even have baby food lol you live in a dream
Jibartik
10-01-2022, 10:28 PM
Seems like political suicide though.
Im a bit afraid that that has already happened. And the guy is still in charge.
Basically, it's up to Putin at this point, and the men that pull the triggers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov#Involvement_in_Cuban_Missile_Crisi s)
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 12:19 AM
we dont even have baby food lol you live in a dream
Push comes to shove and we can do quite a lot my man. See: island hopping
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 12:44 AM
Push comes to shove and we can do quite a lot my man. See: island hopping
Will you please explain to me how that has anything to do with me saying the only thing that is going to stop nukes from happening now is Putin, or people refusing to follow orders?
I want to know how your homeless man brain works.
Because that's the statement you are directly arguing with me about.
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 01:08 AM
It needs not be stated that the only thing stopping Putin is Putin or the Russians not following orders
Same reason it was entirely his fault Ukraine was invaded, which you’ve argued against ad nauseam
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 01:11 AM
4 years no invasion, dude.
Let me quote your dumb ass:
it’s related to a bigger long term trend
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 01:11 AM
They might be dumb but I don't think they're so dumb as to use anything really major when most of the fallout is going to blow back their way. If they want to go on being the Big Bad Bear international bad guy they might conceivably use some small tactical nuclear weapon as a political middle finger to the west. Those types of things, kiloton range or less, that's small enough nobody's going to start WW3 over it. Seems like political suicide though. Cold war-era anti-nuclear propaganda (much of it quietly funded by the Soviets) was so effective it's still mostly off the table.
Danth
Yeah, I tend to agree, but annexing those regions when you don’t hold them and blowing up your own pipeline seems to show there’s no turning back for you
Disagree about us not responding to a tactical nuke. We would and we should
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 01:13 AM
4 years of peace dude.
There wasn’t peace, that’s you idealizing something that wasn’t reality, like a lot of things you believe.
Four years of a stolen crimea. He was going to keep doing this anyway. He’s even called himself Peter the great. Look up that history to see what it means (it doesn’t mean he ever intended to stop. It does mean he was always going to play the long game to expand the Russian empire)
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness. This is why people think twice about attacking Israel
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 01:14 AM
We would and we should
What's this we shit? You wont do anything.
Stolen valor republican bullshit.
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 01:17 AM
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness. This is why people think twice about attacking Israel
This is my effing argument about how we (weak biden) provoked the bully (putin) god dammit i hate you so much sometimes.
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 01:17 AM
If I am drafted I will fight for the United States
I was raised Islamic dude, I 100% believe in God and am prepared to die for my family and the United States which has given me and my family every opportunity I’ve ever had, as opposed to being in shithole Iran where you get beaten to death over a hijab
If you don’t believe that it’s fine, I don’t care. The United States will and should respond to the use of a nuclear weapon in a first strike on a nation being conquered in a war of aggression
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 01:18 AM
You wont have to do that and you know it that's why you talk tough.
You're classic internet tough guy.
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 01:19 AM
This is my effing argument about how we (weak biden) provoked the bully (putin) god dammit i hate you so much sometimes.
Moldova, Chechnya, Georgia, crimea, Ukraine
I just did it in chronological order for you. Even if you’re right, trump delays it 4 years. And you aren’t right, other than Putin believing trump would leave NATO. Russia is playing the long game and will keep doing this. Why don’t you get that
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 01:21 AM
You wont have to do that and you know it that's why you talk tough.
You're classic internet tough guy.
Again that’s an assumption you make. I will die for my family without hesitation
And we’re an obese country. If world war 3 happens the US will need charismatic high IQ autists. I’m straight Neil Patrick Harris from starship troopers. Do your part and all
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 01:21 AM
And again why are you blaming me for talking tough? I am not the one threatening to nuke people bud, save your anger for the brutal dictator
I’m an engineer sharing political opinions
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 01:22 AM
Russia is playing the long game and will keep doing this. Why don’t you get that
Yeah, all we had to do was last another 10 years and putin would have been dead.
Things were fine up until uncle joe said, "well maybe if its a minro incousion well have to talk about it"
and bully putin saw the weakness and was like, ok lets go it will be fast.
well it wasnt, and now were fucked.
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 01:22 AM
And again why are you blaming me for talking tough? I am not the one threatening to nuke people bud, save your anger for the brutal dictator
I’m an engineer sharing political opinions
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 01:23 AM
And again why are you blaming me for talking tough?
because you called me a putin simp 100 Times
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 01:46 AM
I love how they are pivoting to this war is 4chan biblical lol this is from putin speech on friday night
https://i.imgur.com/tNaj8MM.png
Rethalis
10-02-2022, 10:34 AM
I love how they are pivoting to this war is 4chan biblical lol this is from putin speech on friday night
https://i.imgur.com/tNaj8MM.png
https://leb.fbi.gov/file-repository/archives/march-1960.pdf/view
The commie threat has many masks.
Basanos
10-02-2022, 10:37 AM
You bet your ass it does, and our numbers will keep growing :)
Rethalis
10-02-2022, 10:46 AM
You bet your ass it does, and our numbers will keep growing :)
you know, the commies and the party of davos don't sound all that different to me.
Basanos
10-02-2022, 10:49 AM
you know, the commies and the party of davos don't sound all that different to me.Yeah, you're also working towards a Hermain Cain award unless you actually decide to do some reading so I already knew you weren't the sharpest knife in the drawer
Rethalis
10-02-2022, 10:56 AM
Yeah, you're also working towards a Hermain Cain award unless you actually decide to do some reading so I already knew you weren't the sharpest knife in the drawer
Sorry your ideology is purely based on hatred and resentment. Once you achieve your lenin luther revolution do you know what you will do with the power? Will your vision of utopia work for everybody? The party of davos thinks they know, what makes you any different?
Basanos
10-02-2022, 11:07 AM
Sorry your ideology is purely based on hatred and resentment. Once you achieve your lenin luther revolution do you know what you will do with the power? Will your vision of utopia work for everybody? The party of davos thinks they know, what makes you any different?Haha, if it helps you to pretend you think that, you go right ahead and do it if it makes you feel better
Pretend you think you know more than scientists, pretend you understand politics, pretend you are not on the side of evil if you wish
God sees through it all and god blesses the communists
Reiwa
10-02-2022, 11:20 AM
lenin luther revolution
Lex Luther is a comic villain.
Lex means Law and Luther means Luther. Law of Luther = Absurd Villainy!
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Rethalis
10-02-2022, 11:26 AM
Haha, if it helps you to pretend you think that, you go right ahead and do it if it makes you feel better
Pretend you think you know more than scientists, pretend you understand politics, pretend you are not on the side of evil if you wish
God sees through it all and god blesses the communists
I am not pretending anything. The utopian types, don't seem to have any humility. The idea of engineering it is so preposterously naive.
Once you break down all hierarchies that you do not like, how will you prevent people from organizing in those hierarchies again?
Once you wipe out the white supremacist threat what will you do to protect the institutions you have built? What is your plan for the future beyond destruction in the here and now?
Basanos
10-02-2022, 11:33 AM
I am not pretending anything. The utopian types, don't seem to have any humility. The idea of engineering it is so preposterously naive.
Once you break down all hierarchies that you do not like, how will you prevent people from organizing in those hierarchies again?
Once you wipe out the white supremacist threat what will you do to protect the institutions you have built? What is your plan for the future beyond destruction in the here and now?Sorry, all of that information is classified :rolleyes:
Rethalis
10-02-2022, 11:47 AM
Sorry, all of that information is classified :rolleyes:
Your ideology must be really weak if you do not want to debate it publicly.
Basanos
10-02-2022, 11:55 AM
Your ideology must be really weak if you do not want to debate it publicly.I am familiar with baiting people online. I do it frequently. My tricks generally don't work on me.
Besides, I've fully explained myself in previous posts if you care to sift through this account or my previous. I know when to waste time with the right and when not to, sorry, not sorry.
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 11:58 AM
What if all the megalomaniacs in the world got together and started a bunch of fake wars so we all died and they made a shit load of money??
No that can’t be the way the world works that can’t possibly be it…. right?
WRONG
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 12:28 PM
Haha, if it helps you to pretend you think that, you go right ahead and do it if it makes you feel better
Pretend you think you know more than scientists, pretend you understand politics, pretend you are not on the side of evil if you wish
God sees through it all and god blesses the communists
Maybe saint javelin blesses them, but I see failure after failure tbh man
Basanos
10-02-2022, 12:58 PM
Maybe saint javelin blesses them, but I see failure after failure tbh manThe blessings of god have historically manifested as a mixed bag. I’m not even that much of a commie, too state-centered.
Rethalis
10-02-2022, 01:54 PM
I am familiar with baiting people online. I do it frequently. My tricks generally don't work on me.
Besides, I've fully explained myself in previous posts if you care to sift through this account or my previous. I know when to waste time with the right and when not to, sorry, not sorry.
You mentioned bookchin, anarcho-communisim (aka antifa) a couple of times and thats about it. I'm convinced you think revolution now, we will figure out paradise after wandering in the desert for years later. I bet you have no clue what to do after the revolution.
Just destruction now.
You mentioned you hate hierarchies, hierarchies are so engrained in the human experience that its natural law at this point. You would be one of the last people I would trust in power. I doubt you would be able to reconcile with people organizing themselves into their own hiarchies.
Ecology of freedom is still on my shelf, currently on a fiction kick. Maybe it will be my next read. It will be meaningless to me though if his presupposition
is destruction of useful hierarchies.
Basanos
10-02-2022, 02:06 PM
You mentioned bookchin, anarcho-communisim (aka antifa) a couple of times and thats about it. I'm convinced you think revolution now, we will figure out paradise after wandering in the desert for years later. I bet you have no clue what to do after the revolution.
Just destruction now.
You mentioned you hate hierarchies, hierarchies are so engrained in the human experience that its natural law at this point. You would be one of the last people I would trust in power. I doubt you would be able to reconcile with people organizing themselves into their own hiarchies.
Ecology of freedom is still on my shelf, currently on a fiction kick. Maybe it will be my next read. It will be meaningless to me though if his presupposition
is destruction of useful hierarchies.Bookchin will do a better job explaining what happens afterward than I ever could. Good for you that I don't seek power. I just seek the defeat of the right, really. I know my role.
Just because you want it to be does not make hierarchy natural. There have been plenty of cooperative groups of human beings. But I suppose that's one way for you to confirm that the right is really only about preserving the hierarchy, so thanks.
Rethalis
10-02-2022, 02:22 PM
Bookchin will do a better job explaining what happens afterward than I ever could. Good for you that I don't seek power. I just seek the defeat of the right, really. I know my role.
Doubtful, all commies say that.
Basanos
10-02-2022, 02:27 PM
Doubtful, all commies say that.Haha. Well, if I become President, you can write me an angry letter telling me what a hypocrite I am and that I promised on the elf forum not to do what I just did
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 09:26 PM
Just a little Arminian genocide 2.0 from the good guys nothing to see here.
Kaveh
10-02-2022, 10:07 PM
You finally catch that story on the news? I mentioned trump ignoring that land grab in 2020 and Biden ignoring it worsening now (other than sending pelosi)
Not sure how you figure they’re the good guys though. Turkey was allowed into NATO when things were different. They’ll be kicked out eventually (or Erdogan will lose)
Jibartik
10-02-2022, 10:19 PM
I was talking about the mass execution video from this week going around that the world is going to ignore.
And I've backed you on every post about that and have wondered why you also dont care anymore either considering they've been a very important asset to your little world war.
Encroaching Death
10-02-2022, 11:47 PM
Bookchin will do a better job explaining what happens afterward than I ever could. Good for you that I don't seek power. I just seek the defeat of the right, really. I know my role.
Just because you want it to be does not make hierarchy natural. There have been plenty of cooperative groups of human beings. But I suppose that's one way for you to confirm that the right is really only about preserving the hierarchy, so thanks.
There are hierarchies in far left communities.
Hierarchies form on their own, even when you don't want them to.
The entire Identity Politics the Left is currently engaged with is drowning in hierarchies.
Basanos
10-02-2022, 11:53 PM
There are hierarchies in far left communities.
Hierarchies form on their own, even when you don't want them to.
The entire Identity Politics the Left is currently engaged with is drowning in hierarchies.Check it out, it's the part where they argue against a point I was never making
Encroaching Death
10-02-2022, 11:58 PM
Check it out, it's the part where they argue against a point I was never making
Here's your quote:
"Just because you want it to be does not make hierarchy natural. There have been plenty of cooperative groups of human beings."
That statement leads me to believe you think there can be groups without heirarchy.
Heirarchies always form. Officially and/or unofficially.
Even among a group of friends, heirarchies form.
Basanos
10-03-2022, 12:11 AM
I made an ambiguous statement.
There sure can be groups without hierarchy. Cooperation is just as natural as hierarchy. Cooperation can exist within or without hierarchy. Cooperation can itself have hierarchy or it can lack it. I think there should be more groups without hierarchy.
Obviously, most groups that form do have hierarchies, I'm not blind. I criticize them because they're everywhere, including places they should be and shouldn't be.
But show me where I said that far left groups don't have them. Some do, some don't.
Reiwa
10-03-2022, 12:28 AM
Hierarchy = your face my balls
End of discussion
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 12:38 AM
qh8mgAw9ngo
Kaveh
10-03-2022, 12:59 AM
I was talking about the mass execution video from this week going around that the world is going to ignore.
And I've backed you on every post about that and have wondered why you also dont care anymore either considering they've been a very important asset to your little world war.
Sadly, I have no say in this or any other war. Putin and aliyev can ligma
Glad you like Armenia. Cool place that has made a lot of progress and has been very welcoming to persian and yazidi refugees. And now Russians too I guess
They’re a nice group and pretty intelligent, though circumstances have made them dirt poor
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 01:19 AM
Sadly, I have no say in this or any other war.
That's a hypocritical thing to say. You've spent pages here lamenting how any question about Biden's mishandling of this conflict would stem the tide for putin.
Kaveh
10-03-2022, 02:11 AM
If I could change how conflicts played out, I’d be in Iran bringing about a peaceable transition to the parliamentary democracy we had in 1951.
As for Putin, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Moldova, chechnya, georgia, crimea, donbas, Ukraine
Throw in finlandization and Austria for good measure. This is what they do man, it’s their culture. It will take the Russian people realizing this is stupid for it to change. NATO is the ONLY deterrent keeping them out of the countries I didn’t list (Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania would absolutely be conquered because they couldn’t resist nearly as effectively as Ukraine)
I believe in NATO and believe this invasion shows us why it exists. The USSR sucks and Russia still sucks. NATO needs to be rewritten thoufh. If we have to help in the Atlantic and Europe, the other states should have to help us in the pacific, which is currently not mentioned in Article 5
None of which is to say NATO has made no mistakes. I’ve said this ad nauseam, I voted for Kerry in 2004 before it’s was a transparently obvious one goal that caused massive death and upheaval that still reverberates to this day (Iraq is headed towards civil war as we speak)
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 02:56 AM
I dont know how to tell you this man iraq was not going to make WMDs
Now lets see if the thing you believed ins little plan results in the death of putin, or ruining our long running history of not using war to solve our problems to avoid nukes for the last (almost) 100 years that its job was designed to do in the first place.
Encroaching Death
10-03-2022, 06:22 AM
qh8mgAw9ngo
One of these kids is viewed as "the leader".
magnetaress
10-03-2022, 08:21 AM
qh8mgAw9ngo
This says it all.
Encroaching Death
10-03-2022, 12:21 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-problems-mount-ukraine-breakthrough-kherson-russia-military-rcna50408
Please don't nuke us yet, Putin.
I haven't even gotten my Z-Heart yet...come on
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 12:39 PM
qh8mgAw9ngo
play both at once :D
OwuNXvJiLls
Encroaching Death
10-03-2022, 12:40 PM
The individual is nothing.
The state is everything.
I'm told this is called "utopia"...
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 12:41 PM
"utopia"...
RBJj_UwkSyc
Kaveh
10-03-2022, 01:50 PM
I dont know how to tell you this man iraq was not going to make WMDs
Now lets see if the thing you believed ins little plan results in the death of putin, or ruining our long running history of not using war to solve our problems to avoid nukes for the last (almost) 100 years that its job was designed to do in the first place.
I told you I disagreed with invading Iraq in 2003.
NATO worked. Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania weren’t invaded. Moldova, Georgia, and Ukraine were. Medvedev even stated northern Kazakhstan could be brought under Russian control
NATO’s purpose is to defer Russia from invading NATO countries. That’s it
hth
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 04:20 PM
I told you I disagreed with invading Iraq in 2003.
Bullshit, you're just trying to save face.
You know what your problem is?
You cant admit you might be wrong.
You said it yourself weakness gives power to bullies, and that's how this all started.
By biden being weak and saying if it was a small incursion then we'd have to talk about it.
And then it was a small incursion, and you and Bden were like TRAP CARD!!! WORLD WAR 3 OR NOTHING!
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 05:02 PM
This was all planned way in advanced.
The Weapons Industry Is Jubilant About Biden's Nominee for Pentagon Arms Buyer (https://inthesetimes.com/article/weapons-industry-lockheed-martin-raytheon-laplante-obama-biden)
Bassanos. Plz stop supporting the very group you hate, they moved the bodies, not the headstones.
magnetaress
10-03-2022, 05:26 PM
This was all planned way in advanced.
The Weapons Industry Is Jubilant About Biden's Nominee for Pentagon Arms Buyer (https://inthesetimes.com/article/weapons-industry-lockheed-martin-raytheon-laplante-obama-biden)
Bassanos. Plz stop supporting the very group you hate, they moved the bodies, not the headstones.
^^^^^^^^ this
It's a giant shell game for us to continue going to the pump with our hard earned and fought for child blood soaked peanuts instead of just revolting and destroying ourselves (and their easy ride controlling it all and skimming from it mountains of highly refined extra potent peanut butter) in anger.
Basanos
10-03-2022, 05:49 PM
This was all planned way in advanced.
The Weapons Industry Is Jubilant About Biden's Nominee for Pentagon Arms Buyer (https://inthesetimes.com/article/weapons-industry-lockheed-martin-raytheon-laplante-obama-biden)
Bassanos. Plz stop supporting the very group you hate, they moved the bodies, not the headstones.Your accelerationism is inconsistent, or I don't understand what you want.
What is it I'm supposed to be doing? Or what is it that I'm doing that makes you think I support the weapons industry in any way?
Well, I do own a handgun I bought new at a store, so they got some money out of me voluntarily I guess. Not sure if we include small arms manufacturers in the weapons industry definition, I'm sure some are related to Raytheon or whatever I guess. I did make a point to buy it with money I got from unemployment during the covid lockdowns.
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 06:15 PM
What is it I'm supposed to be doing?
follow the shaman
spread the word that the democrat's are all lairs and GOP and racist and dont carea bout people anymore and the parties flipped
end their charade!
Jibartik
10-03-2022, 07:55 PM
Aint nobody got faith in their machinery kim jong un has in his peoples
https://twitter.com/i/events/1577065531441455105
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 01:09 AM
elon musk is like scorched earthing this place like he already can get to mars.
HMM0LiQPI-Q
Rethalis
10-04-2022, 01:10 AM
elon musk is like scorched earthing this place like he already can get to mars.
HMM0LiQPI-Q
lol
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 01:12 AM
imagine elon musk shorting your war against russia.
Rethalis
10-04-2022, 01:15 AM
imagine elon musk shorting your war against russia.
I didn't watch it, I laughed at the headline as it's so absurd
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 01:50 AM
I laughed at the headline as it's so absurd
His conclusion isn’t wrong, but compelling peace on a people wanting to fight for their land is a recipe for this conflict to resume at a later date
It’s a shitty war and it’s amazing just how wrong Francis Fukuyama was about stating that we were at the end of history and in a new era
Patrece
10-04-2022, 02:55 AM
Has Ukraine won yet? Russia has captured enough territory to hold referendums in 4 major regions to let the people decide if they want to join Russia or stay with Ukraine. They all decided to switch from Ukraine to Russia. (Also fun fact, these same regions have been trying to gain independence from Ukraine for many years now).
Basanos
10-04-2022, 06:10 AM
His conclusion isn’t wrong, but compelling peace on a people wanting to fight for their land is a recipe for this conflict to resume at a later date
It’s a shitty war and it’s amazing just how wrong Francis Fukuyama was about stating that we were at the end of history and in a new eraI was about to watch a documentary the other day when I realized Fukuyama was one of the "experts" and it instantly lost credibility. Still watched it, though
I am glad to see someone else mocking the End of History guy.
Castle2.0
10-04-2022, 07:18 AM
Has Ukraine won yet? Russia has captured enough territory to hold referendums in 4 major regions to let the people decide if they want to join Russia or stay with Ukraine. They all decided to switch from Ukraine to Russia. (Also fun fact, these same regions have been trying to gain independence from Ukraine for many years now).
Yes, the people in those areas are very motivated to vote...
JDDAQwWndT0
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 07:53 AM
When someone gets in your face, they want you to swing first so you're viewed as the bad guy.
Russia swung when NATO got in its face.
Russia took the bait. Simple as that.
Basanos
10-04-2022, 07:56 AM
When someone gets in your face, they want you to swing first so you're viewed as the bad guy.
Russia swung when NATO got in its face.
Russia took the bait. Simple as that.As we all know, geopolitics translates one to one with street fighting
Armchair expertise is surely valuable to NATO leadership
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 07:58 AM
As we all know, geopolitics translates one to one with street fighting
Armchair expertise is surely valuable to NATO leadership
Yes. Essentially the same thing. Women do not understand this.
Basanos
10-04-2022, 08:13 AM
Yes. Essentially the same thing. Women do not understand this.Women avoid you guys for more reasons than being "ACTUALLY" guys, but you keep reading books about them
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 09:09 AM
When someone gets in your face, they want you to swing first so you're viewed as the bad guy.
Russia swung when NATO got in its face.
Russia took the bait. Simple as that.
You’re Ukrainian by blood, yes?
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 09:28 AM
You’re Ukrainian by blood, yes?
Nah, Norman by blood. Traced my family back to 1400s.
My dad was adopted though and his adopted family is from Prussia, so proto-Rus?
White Americans are basically a petri dish. I probably have a bit of everything. My family members were whores.
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 09:34 AM
Women avoid you guys for more reasons than being "ACTUALLY" guys, but you keep reading books about them
Women do not understand the intricacies of geopolitical conflict.
They do not possess the experience of getting into fist fights.
This is a blind spot for female leadership. Just like men have blind spots.
Hope this truth helps :p
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 09:37 AM
Nah, Norman by blood. Traced my family back to 1400s.
My dad was adopted though and his adopted family is from Prussia, so proto-Rus?
White Americans are basically a petri dish. I probably have a bit of everything. My family members were whores.
I traced mine back to 1488 and I’m 1066% Persian/Georgian/Armenian
Also some Afghan sadly
Basanos
10-04-2022, 09:38 AM
Women do not understand the intricacies of geopolitical conflict.
They do not possess the experience of getting into fist fights.
This is a blind spot for female leadership. Just like men have blind spots.
Hope this truth helps :pMy wife stabbed a woman in Tijuana, though not lethally. My ex-wife has been arrested three times for violent encounters with other women.
Speaking of blind spots in men... maybe spend time with actual women rather than reading theory
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 09:40 AM
My wife stabbed a woman in Tijuana, though not lethally. My ex-wife has been arrested three times for violent encounters with other women.
Speaking of blind spots in men... many spend time with actual women rather than reading theory
Hahaha Mexicans man, they shank everyone. It’s weird
I’ve yet to meet a Mexican who doesn’t carry a knife and want to show it to you. I’m like how are you gonna mow my lawn with that Jorge? Want to see what it would do against my colt m1911?
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 09:51 AM
My wife stabbed a woman in Tijuana, though not lethally. My ex-wife has been arrested three times for violent encounters with other women.
Speaking of blind spots in men... maybe spend time with actual women rather than reading theory
Can I take advice from you? You sound like you pick em well :D
Basanos
10-04-2022, 09:53 AM
Hahaha Mexicans man, they shank everyone. It’s weird
I’ve yet to meet a Mexican who doesn’t carry a knife and want to show it to you. I’m like how are you gonna mow my lawn with that Jorge? Want to see what it would do against my colt m1911?Her ancestors are both Spanish and Native American, all of them are from southern Colorado. Conquistador people, I guess. She gets asked if she's Mexican, Arabic, Persian, Turkish, Thai, etc. Mainly by dudes.
She has so many goddamn jokes about Hispanic folks and carrying knives. I try not to repeat them, as I'm as white as the driven snow you can probably guess why.
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 09:54 AM
Latina is a decent choice if you want to get murdered for looking at another woman’s ass
But some of them are fine as hell so I could see why you’d go that route
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 09:54 AM
Her ancestors are both Spanish and Native American, all of them are from southern Colorado. Conquistador people, I guess. She gets asked if she's Mexican, Arabic, Persian, Turkish, Thai, etc. Mainly by dudes.
She has so many goddamn jokes about Hispanic folks and carrying knives. I try not to repeat them, as I'm as white as the driven snow you can probably guess why.
Yeah I mean obviously I’m joking but it’s insane how much the knife is a part of Mexican culture
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 09:55 AM
I traced mine back to 1488 and I’m 1066% Persian/Georgian/Armenian
Also some Afghan sadly
Good year.
Persian history is not appreciated enough. The closest thing we get to it is watching 300.
Basanos
10-04-2022, 09:55 AM
Can I take advice from you? You sound like you pick em well :DThis is fair criticism for once. I do like crazy women.
Basanos
10-04-2022, 09:57 AM
Latina is a decent choice if you want to get murdered for looking at another woman’s ass
But some of them are fine as hell so I could see why you’d go that routeThis is truth
My eternally single brother moved to Phoenix last year, and I told him to start talking up Latinas, but also to like, uh, be careful and stay focused
Basanos
10-04-2022, 10:09 AM
Good year.
Persian history is not appreciated enough. The closest thing we get to it is watching 300.https://i.imgur.com/I4CACpm.png
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 10:14 AM
https://i.imgur.com/I4CACpm.png
https://media4.giphy.com/media/UX6huwJfADuH9khCMl/giphy.gif
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 10:31 AM
Good year.
Persian history is not appreciated enough. The closest thing we get to it is watching 300.
That’s because it’s been shitty for a while and Herodotus didn’t like us
But yeah, the Samanid dynasty shaped much of Islamic art and architecture. Even things like architectural styles in Andalusia have their origin within the Iranian plateau, but we’ll never get credit for it (this being one small example, the Achaemenids and sassanians were way more interesting and influential)
We don’t deserve it right now anyway. Iran is a travesty.
Basanos
10-04-2022, 10:43 AM
The first time I touched another man's penis, it was an Iranian dude.
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 10:52 AM
The first time I touched another man's penis, it was an Iranian dude.
I thought your wife was Mexican?
Basanos
10-04-2022, 11:04 AM
I thought your wife was Mexican?She isn't. She is American. This was years before I met her.
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 11:13 AM
She isn't. She is American. This was years before I met her.
How did you touch her penis before you met her?
Like in VR?
Basanos
10-04-2022, 11:14 AM
How did you touch her penis before you met her?
Like in VR?What is a woman?!
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 11:15 AM
What is a woman?!
I can't answer that for fear of being labeled "anti-science".
Basanos
10-04-2022, 11:21 AM
I can't answer that for fear of being labeled "anti-science".You're anti-science. Now answer the question and email Matt Walsh. I wonder if he's sucked off any gorillas lately.
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 11:27 AM
You're anti-science. Now answer the question and email Matt Walsh. I wonder if he's sucked off any gorillas lately.
I like science sometimes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/10/conservatives-really-are-better-looking-research-says/) :cool:
Basanos
10-04-2022, 11:35 AM
I like science sometimes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/10/conservatives-really-are-better-looking-research-says/) :cool:Oh, NOW we trust the Bezos-Washington Post. Lol.
I wonder, if they're better looking, why are so many of them incels? I've never even heard of a leftist incel. There are leftist sex pests - the DSA has a lot of those - and plenty of creeps, but incels are all rightoids.
I guess something about the bitterness? The ideology being based on disdain and entitlement? Not a psychologist.
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 11:46 AM
Oh, NOW we trust the Bezos-Washington Post. Lol.
I wonder, if they're better looking, why are so many of them incels? I've never even heard of a leftist incel. There are leftist sex pests - the DSA has a lot of those - and plenty of creeps, but incels are all rightoids.
I guess something about the bitterness? The ideology being based on disdain and entitlement? Not a psychologist.
They're not all incels.
The incel community and anti-woke/anti-feminism community are often mistakenly blended together for dishonest/ignorant reasons.
In fact, the majority of the younger generations having children are Conservative.
Basanos
10-04-2022, 11:52 AM
I did not say they are all incels. Just that all of the incels are on the right. And all of the incel-adjacent people.
Because rightoid philosophy attracts pessimists and those who feel entitled to something. This is also the source of most economic gripes coming from the right.
The party of "personal responsibility" and "small government" wants me to believe that Joe Biden has a button to reduce gas prices he should press because they can't handle a few percentage points due to inflation.
No, they just don't understand the capitalism and market forces they'd tell you they support.
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 12:08 PM
I did not say they are all incels. Just that all of the incels are on the right. And all of the incel-adjacent people.
Because rightoid philosophy attracts pessimists and those who feel entitled to something. This is also the source of most economic gripes coming from the right.
The party of "personal responsibility" and "small government" wants me to believe that Joe Biden has a button to reduce gas prices he should press because they can't handle a few percentage points due to inflation.
No, they just don't understand the capitalism and market forces they'd tell you they support.
I just told you the reason.
There's no need to speculate like a Great Value Alex Jones
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 12:18 PM
His conclusion isn’t wrong, but compelling peace on a people wanting to fight for their land is a recipe for this conflict to resume at a later date
Wait whos conclusion isnt wrong?
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 12:39 PM
Musk
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 12:41 PM
I did not say they are all incels. Just that all of the incels are on the right. And all of the incel-adjacent people.
Because rightoid philosophy attracts pessimists and those who feel entitled to something. This is also the source of most economic gripes coming from the right.
The party of "personal responsibility" and "small government" wants me to believe that Joe Biden has a button to reduce gas prices he should press because they can't handle a few percentage points due to inflation.
No, they just don't understand the capitalism and market forces they'd tell you they support.
I don’t know man, I’m right of center and I LOATHE entitlement. I made my son work at sonic and he didn’t need to. I just wanted him to know how hard life can be if you’re not prepared to make an honest effort every single day
Also made him play football and make A’s or I beat him worse than Herschel beat his kids
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 12:46 PM
I don’t know man, I’m right of center and I LOATHE entitlement. I made my son work at sonic and he didn’t need to. I just wanted him to know how hard life can be if you’re not prepared to make an honest effort every single day
Also made him play football and make A’s or I beat him worse than Herschel beat his kids
Most Conservatives hate entitlement.
This is just one reason why I told him he doesn't know how to anger Conservatives online because he doesn't quite know Conservatives yet.
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 12:47 PM
You’d be pretty mad too if Herschel Walker was gonna be your next senator
Why do you think I don’t like republicans right now? You think it’s trump? Ted cruz can suck my dick
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 01:21 PM
Musk
Ok, now that has been my argument since page one.
But you have called me a fascist, a nazi, a putin simp, and many other things, many, many times ITT because that was my position, and now you're saying it's right?
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 01:23 PM
The outcome is likely to favor Russia. That doesn’t mean we should throw the victims under the bus
Who knows. The Ukrainians may yet win. They deserve the opportunity to defend themselves. Also, what musk proposes would require Russian military withdrawals for votes to be held. It would never happen
Also I’d say your argument has been either Biden started the war or I did, and it’s quite obviously Putin and the USSR I mean Russia
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 01:37 PM
The outcome is likely to favor Russia. That doesn’t mean we should throw the victims under the bus
Who knows. The Ukrainians may yet win. They deserve the opportunity to defend themselves. Also, what musk proposes would require Russian military withdrawals for votes to be held. It would never happen
You must not understand what elon said.
You changed your mind?
The outcome is the same but this way the Russians pay a heavy cost and a free people at least have a fighting chance. If Ukraine west of the Dnieper becomes a functional democracy that loathes Russia, pretty much secures Europe from the east along with Poland and Finland. This is an own goal by Russia and we have acted as harshly as we could’ve without actually using our military. That changes nothing about the Europeans being simps, especially Germany
You've flip flopped like you always do, you were a staunch trump supporter, then a staunch biden supporter.
You're like a reed in the wind.
Also I’d say your argument has been either Biden started the war or I did, and it’s quite obviously Putin and the USSR I mean Russia
From the start Ive said:
nothing will change, it's about flags, and there will be a million dead bodies and a country to rebuild.
My argument hasnt changed: This war is a joke, and a weak man is the reason a bully took advantage of him and started this war and now the weak man is letting industry to take advantage of it to make money.
You even agree with that:
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
YOU elected that weak man and YOU supported this war up until elon didn't.
Basanos
10-04-2022, 01:39 PM
Most Conservatives hate entitlement.
This is just one reason why I told him he doesn't know how to anger Conservatives online because he doesn't quite know Conservatives yet.Nah, most conservatives hate entitlement because they think others are entitled and they aren't. Conservatives don't realize how entitled they are.
Look at all the angry white dudes here who are mad at video games for the audacity to have a black character. Or Rings of Power having a black dwarf. Anyone who complains about "SJW culture" or "go woke go broke" unironically is entitled.
Two hundred years of 100% conservative media and white privilege, but one tiny push in the opposite direction and right wing dudes are having total meltdowns.
Those are entitlement opinions. They think that all media should cater to them and their biases.
There are many others. Most Americans are very entitled. We all take things for granted that you'd have to struggle to get in a lot of other places, while denying other places those same things we are entitled about here.
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 01:46 PM
You must not understand what elon said.
You changed your mind?
You've flip flopped like you always do, you were a staunch trump supporter, then a staunch biden supporter.
You're like a reed in the wind.
My argument hasnt changed: This war is a joke, and a weak man is the reason a bully took advantage of him and started this war and the west is taking advantage of it to make money.
YOU elected that week man and YOU supported this war up until elon didnt.
??
I don’t support war ya bozo. I didn’t invade. I have no idea what any of this means, I dislike Elon. I just don’t see Ukraine winning it so him saying this is the likely outcome is what I agreed with, not his method for ending the war
Russia is the only party keeping this war active. Withdraw from every occupied country and stop being ass hole alcoholics
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 01:50 PM
Oh then why was me doing exactly the same thing you were doing (not starting the war), supporting putin??????????????????????????????
If you cant take the heat, dont dish it.
Russia is the only party keeping this war active.
Then why is elon asking us to end it?
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 01:50 PM
Slava Armenia
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 01:51 PM
Oh then why was me doing exactly the same thing you were doing (not starting the war), supporting putin??????????????????????????????
You're such a coward, man up and stand up for what you said.
You blamed Biden instead of Putin
That’s why you’re a simp. Not because either of us started the war (we didn’t)
Basanos
10-04-2022, 01:53 PM
Can someone tell me why Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine is Joe Biden's fault? I'd have thought it was the guy who was in charge of the Russian military
Donnie would not have handled it better, mainly because the only thing Donnie ever handled well was a Twitter account
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 01:54 PM
You blamed Biden instead of Putin
That’s why you’re a simp. Not because either of us started the war (we didn’t)
Wrong I said his weakness started it, then you said this 300 pages later.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 01:55 PM
Can someone tell me why Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine is Joe Biden's fault?
Because he slipped up and said, "if it's a minor incursion, we'll have to talk about what to do." And the next day Putin announced a minor incurion into Ukraine.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again: don's tough talk, and drone striking of high ranking military officials, is why there was on pause for 4 years.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
Basanos
10-04-2022, 01:56 PM
And then, was it American tanks or Russian tanks that rolled into eastern Ukraine?
What is he supposed to do? Prevent World War 3 or start it deliberately?
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 01:58 PM
And then, was it American tanks or Russian tanks that rolled into eastern Ukraine?
Do you believe that drug dealers, or drug suppliers are the problem?
Do you think crime in poor communities, is because of the communities, or do you think because of the system that creates them?
What is he supposed to do? Prevent World War 3 or start it deliberately?
We should have pandered to putin politically on the world stage like trump was doing, until Putin retired or died of old age, and then we encouraged the election of a far left western leader that the CIA can control.
IDK about you guys, but I know a lot of russians, and I really enjoyed gaming with them, and theri contributions to the internet since the cold war.
And now that's all ruined, just because of flags.
Reiwa
10-04-2022, 02:02 PM
Do you believe that drug dealers, or drug suppliers are the problem?
I read in a wizard book that to control the wolves you don't hunt the wolves.
You hunt the wabbits.
Danth
10-04-2022, 02:02 PM
Donnie would not have handled it better, mainly because the only thing Donnie ever handled well was a Twitter account
Doesn't necessarily demand competence.
I half suspect they cooled their heels between annexing Crimea and invading Ukraine proper, while Trump was in office, because nobody quite knew how that cukoo would react. Sometimes instability can have a deterrent effect. Obama and Biden are stable, predictable, and sane. Those men are not going to start WW3 over a modest eastern European nation. But Trump? If he's half the unstable megalomaniac madman the left spent 4 years describing him as, who can be entirely sure?
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 02:08 PM
Doesn't necessarily demand competence.
I half suspect they cooled their heels between annexing Crimea and invading Ukraine proper, while Trump was in office, because nobody quite knew how that cukoo would react. Sometimes instability can have a deterrent effect. Obama and Biden are stable, predictable, and sane. Those men are not going to start WW3 over a modest eastern European nation. But Trump? If he's half the unstable megalomaniac madman the left spent 4 years describing him as, who can be entirely sure?
I really really believe this is the reason.
A lot of folks say "its because trump was anti nato" but this is the USA and putin has been through like 4 presidents, it matters not what a president wants it matters what the next one wants.
Maybe he was waiting for trump to disband nato.
Maybe he wasnt.
If he was, he'd have been 80 before he found out trump was just leading him on and wasnt going to do anything he rants about (like all politicans).
All we had to do was make it another 10 years of stroking that little mans ego and we'd all be able to enter the next phase of russian history together.
But NOOooOOOOOo
Basanos
10-04-2022, 02:11 PM
Do you believe that drug dealers, or drug suppliers are the problem?
Do you think crime in poor communities, is because of the communities, or do you think because of the system that creates them?Fair enough, but if we're talking about systems, was our "system" made fundamentally different somehow between Trump leaving office and Biden entering it? I don't think much changed at all, other than the type of things the guys said. The actions of government are mostly the same for both of these guys.
Can't imagine Biden pandering to Putin would go easily with our Euro allies, Putin seems cannier than that and he had beef with Obama.
Doesn't necessarily demand competence.
I half suspect they cooled their heels between annexing Crimea and invading Ukraine proper, while Trump was in office, because nobody quite knew how that cukoo would react. Sometimes instability can have a deterrent effect. Obama and Biden are stable, predictable, and sane. Those men are not going to start WW3 over a modest eastern European nation. But Trump? If he's half the unstable megalomaniac madman the left spent 4 years describing him as, who can be entirely sure?It worked with Ronald Reagan. But I don't think he had the friendly personal relationship with the Russian head of state that Donnie does, unless I have forgotten a lot about the 80's.
Reiwa
10-04-2022, 02:13 PM
Doesn't necessarily demand competence.
I half suspect they cooled their heels between annexing Crimea and invading Ukraine proper, while Trump was in office, because nobody quite knew how that cukoo would react. Sometimes instability can have a deterrent effect. Obama and Biden are stable, predictable, and sane. Those men are not going to start WW3 over a modest eastern European nation. But Trump? If he's half the unstable megalomaniac madman the left spent 4 years describing him as, who can be entirely sure?
Madman theory (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2TL0GHSue0)
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 02:16 PM
Can't imagine Biden pandering to Putin would go easily with our Euro allies, Putin seems cannier than that and he had beef with Obama.
he was pandering to them like gobbling their ballsacks last time an adminsitration he was a part of was in the whitehosue, here's his secretary of state at the time:
https://i.imgur.com/KHEmHYU.png
They literally did a 180 when they threw our post cold war progress under the bus when they tried to usurp our democracy and steel the fairly won election in 2016
so it'd be hard to go back on all those lies, yeah, but doable.
The man thing was you dont go on TV and say, "if it's a minor incursion, after the debacle in Afghanistan, and the uncertain economy and because I am trying to pass an insane spending bill, we'll have to talk about what to do."
Or you're going to empower your enemies.
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 02:20 PM
Can't imagine Biden pandering to Putin would go easily with our Euro allies, Putin seems cannier than that and he had beef with Obama.
you dont even have to pander, this was harsher stance on Russia than any democrat stance. (up until the democrats blew the whole thing up lol)
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Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 02:22 PM
you dont even have to pander, this was harsher stance on Russia than any democrat stance. (up until the democrats blew the whole thing up lol)
He tells them right to their face LOL
Man, he was the best.
And guess what? He was 100% right. Germany is about to freeze to death :cool:
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 02:34 PM
Because he slipped up and said, "if it's a minor incursion, we'll have to talk about what to do." And the next day Putin announced a minor incurion into Ukraine.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again: don's tough talk, and drone striking of high ranking military officials, is why there was on pause for 4 years.
Moldova chechnya Georgia crimea Ukraine
Trump was a blip that didn’t matter. This was the course Russia and Putin have charted. We don’t control them. All we can do is ask ourselves do we invite further bull shit with weakness, or do we help a people clearly wanting to fight bloody a bully who is totally and unequivocally in the wrong?
But yeah man, Russia probably wins this (if they don’t, boy oh boy what an embarrassing and colossal fuckup). At least this way they have to earn it and maybe people there get tired of the bull shit like what’s happening now in Iran.
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 02:38 PM
A blip of peace.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
You know what provokes a bully? Weakness.
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 02:48 PM
Trump had 4 more years max. We have to continually elect lunatics with their finger on the trigger to stop Putin? Putin gets to elect our leaders for us?
We’ve been over this. It makes no sense. Either way, I’m with the Ukrainians because I was in Iran when saddam invaded. I know what it’s like to see your country get destroyed by a despotic piece of shit
I also don’t agree that trump stopped anything. Armenia got genocided on his watch and he did nothing
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 02:53 PM
Turkey mass executed Armenian prisoners of war last week on video with machine guns, and they're our #1 ally right now on the world stage.
Trump had 4 more years max.
cancer old man Putin had 4 more years max too.
As time progresses there is less and less chance of an invasion when he's closer and closer to deaths door and people already planning transitions of power (through trade with the west!).
If we were friends with them (like the citziens are were), then we could have transitioned to a better world through peace.
Look at the mobilization, people are fleeing like crazy, because the people wanted peace, and the older and less secure putin is, the better chance we had at it.
The more we alienated Russia, the more power we gave him.
All we had to do was stroke his ego while we buttfucked them politically, like we've always done for another couple years.
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 02:59 PM
Yep, Biden isn’t doing shit either. They’re definitely not our #1 ally though
If they try to delay Sweden and Finland’s NATO accessions, they’ll be booted from NATO if Erdogan wins re-election in ‘23. Turkey has 85% inflation this year though, so hopefully his genocidal ass gets fired
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 03:00 PM
Armenia got genocided on his watch and he did nothing
Was Trump alive in 1915?
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 03:01 PM
Turkey is the keystone to winning this war, if he flipped sides, then it'd have been over for us all already.
The thing is, there is no reason for us to have him on our side at all, if not becasue of his value, but our reliance on him, makes him a #1 player in this conflict.
IDK what I am arguing for though, because it's not like I am saying we should be doing anything to invade him, I just think it's hypocritical to claim humanatarianism is why we are doing this war.
Guess I am just trying to say, this is manufactured outrage and makes people rich at the expense of innocence and if we're ok with turkey, we should have been oK with russia handling the tax code in ukraine.
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 03:01 PM
2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict I am referring to, it was a follow up to 1915
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 03:04 PM
Was Trump alive in 1915?
the cover up is so wide that if you try to search about the genocide thats happening right now the internet floods you with 110 year old blog posts.
Kaveh
10-04-2022, 03:05 PM
Turkey is the keystone to winning this war, if he flipped sides, then it'd have been over for us all already.
The thing is, there is no reason for us to have him on our side at all, if not becasue of his value, but our reliance on him, makes him a #1 player in this conflict.
I don’t think so. Their drones are useful but we’ve been giving Ukraine far more weaponry and been training them for years. Plus the festering donbas conflict seems to have instilled them with a lot of morale or at least hatred of Russia to find like mad
But yes I agree fuck Turkey and I do not like our “allies” in the Middle East. Oman is the only country over there even trying to make progress instead of spending 100% of societal effort on fucking over one’s enemies
We have a looming war between Algeria and Morocco. I can’t believe those two places even have militaries. The Islamic world needs Jesus BIGLY
Jibartik
10-04-2022, 03:06 PM
It's almost as if he's coming to remind them (and us) of that.
Encroaching Death
10-04-2022, 03:07 PM
Turkey is like that friend that annoys you....but he has the brand new Xbox
magnetaress
10-04-2022, 10:20 PM
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Jibartik
10-05-2022, 12:38 AM
Big clue the west is behind nordstream is because the news is not covering how russians blew up something in Danish seas but are willing to say anything about a guy running for office in Georgia.
magnetaress
10-05-2022, 12:45 AM
Yeah I'm fully checked out of the msm now. I just rely on Jibartik to keep me up to speed.
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 01:24 AM
heres some weird news for ya
Weird yellow light seen above multiple russian cities in Belgorod, Moscow, Omsk and Murmansk
https://i.imgur.com/c1x2PW7.png
VIDEO: https://gfycat.com/warlikeantiqueafricanfisheagle
https://i.imgur.com/EG8tTOG.png
https://i.imgur.com/QDYlGKd.png
https://i.imgur.com/j6vW4g4.png
https://i.imgur.com/xpXhNlQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/VukG5zQ.png
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 02:52 AM
https://i.imgur.com/beKUXLX.jpg
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 05:59 AM
At least the kitty found its balls
Reiwa
10-05-2022, 10:15 AM
heres some weird news for ya
Weird yellow light seen above multiple russian cities in Belgorod, Moscow, Omsk and Murmansk
https://i.imgur.com/c1x2PW7.png
VIDEO: https://gfycat.com/warlikeantiqueafricanfisheagle
https://i.imgur.com/EG8tTOG.png
https://i.imgur.com/QDYlGKd.png
https://i.imgur.com/j6vW4g4.png
https://i.imgur.com/xpXhNlQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/VukG5zQ.png
Laser show to incite fear of chernikov radiation?
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 10:19 AM
Laser show to incite fear of chernikov radiation?
Targeting for the geospatial kinetic tungsten rods
Kaveh
10-05-2022, 10:25 AM
Aliens calling Russians back to the tracksuit wearing planet ?
magnetaress
10-05-2022, 10:54 AM
heres some weird news for ya
Weird yellow light seen above multiple russian cities in Belgorod, Moscow, Omsk and Murmansk
https://i.imgur.com/c1x2PW7.png
VIDEO: https://gfycat.com/warlikeantiqueafricanfisheagle
https://i.imgur.com/EG8tTOG.png
https://i.imgur.com/QDYlGKd.png
https://i.imgur.com/j6vW4g4.png
https://i.imgur.com/xpXhNlQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/VukG5zQ.png
Laser show to incite fear of chernikov radiation?
Targeting for the geospatial kinetic tungsten rods
Aliens calling Russians back to the tracksuit wearing planet ?
It's cool AF whatever it is. V suprise the humans still have it in them to do weird shit.
Horza
10-05-2022, 12:42 PM
Yeah I'm fully checked out of the msm now. I just rely on Jibartik to keep me up to speed.
Surely this Trump and Putin worshipping, internet addicted conspiracy theorist is more trustworthy than Chris Wallace or whoever :p
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 12:46 PM
Surely this Trump and Putin worshipping, internet addicted conspiracy theorist is more trustworthy than Chris Wallace or whoever :p
I mean, it is full stop.
Sorry you watch the news.
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 12:47 PM
Surely this Trump and Putin worshipping, internet addicted conspiracy theorist is more trustworthy than Chris Wallace or whoever :p
Probably is, honestly.
He doesn't have billionaire backers forcing him what to type.
Horza
10-05-2022, 12:51 PM
Probably is, honestly.
He doesn't have billionaire backers forcing him what to type.
You guys will just back whoever's sucking Putin's balls today, but I can't say that I'm very surprised.
Kaveh
10-05-2022, 12:56 PM
You guys will just back whoever's sucking Putin's balls today, but I can't say that I'm very surprised.
Doesn’t matter man, at least for now Russia is getting its ass kicked. Hopefully that keeps up
Kaveh
10-05-2022, 12:57 PM
Now it’s time to settle Armenia
Nagorno-Karabakh is Armenian land andit’s time for the international community to stop Jihadist aggression against her
And to nuke China
Kaveh
10-05-2022, 01:02 PM
Trump should just go into comedy
He’s the funniest dude since Dave chappelle back in the day
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 01:03 PM
You guys will just back whoever's sucking Putin's balls today, but I can't say that I'm very surprised.
Ive found most people who resort to anger are mad at themselves more than they are the people they are screaming about.
Schizos like Jib don't really care about reality on the ground, for instance he still thinks Trump is going to get reinstated any day now.
Why do you talk about the validity of the news, then say something I have not once said in 20k posts?
You're so angry and sad and mad and bad.
Trump will become president when he becomes re-elected, because your side has nothing to offer except anger hate mad sad and bad canddiates like yourself.
Basanos
10-05-2022, 01:11 PM
Ive found most people who resort to anger are mad at themselves more than they are the people they are screaming about.I don't see what's so inherently wrong with admitting various things piss us off in life. People care about shit, and when that shit gets ruined, you get mad. It's normal. Jesus got mad sometimes. And I say this knowing full well sometimes people are mad at me.
Similarly, I don't get what 'rent free' really means anymore. Like, a normal part of human relationships is remembering what people say and do, even online.
Maybe I'm just hedging my bets.
Horza
10-05-2022, 01:16 PM
Trump will become president when he becomes re-elected, because your side has nothing to offer except anger hate mad sad and bad canddiates like yourself.
This country has a long history of electing presidential candidates who were already losers. If Grover Cleveland can do it, why can't the billionaire pedophile you worship?
https://i.imgur.com/WpVTEEi.jpg
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 01:18 PM
This country has a long history of electing presidential candidates who were already losers. If Grover Cleveland can do it, why can't the billionaire pedophile you worship?
So far you are the only person in the last 100 days to refer to trump as masonic.
What was it I was saying about angry people, being mad at themselves?
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 01:21 PM
I don't see what's so inherently wrong with admitting various things piss us off in life. People care about shit, and when that shit gets ruined, you get mad. It's normal. Jesus got mad sometimes. And I say this knowing full well sometimes people are mad at me.
Similarly, I don't get what 'rent free' really means anymore. Like, a normal part of human relationships is remembering what people say and do, even online.
Maybe I'm just hedging my bets.
I aint ever met someone who is happy with who they are, and is angry at other people.
Horza
10-05-2022, 01:23 PM
Jib's argument that all non-Trump supporters are just secretly angry with themselves and will inevitably vote GOP once they work out their issues has about 80 million flaws in it (eight million more than Epstein's BFF got).
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 01:25 PM
Insulting me will surely fix your problems.
Basanos
10-05-2022, 01:35 PM
I aint ever met someone who is happy with who they are, and is angry at other people.I tend not to ask people "Are you happy with who you are?", I guess
I think a lot of people are angry about a whole assortment of things, it's life. It's generally better than it was five hundred years ago but there's still a lot of room for improvement.
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 01:37 PM
You guys will just back whoever's sucking Putin's balls today, but I can't say that I'm very surprised.
Again, I am Pro-Ukraine.
Putin is as much as a threat to me as the WEF. Because he's also a part of it.
Hope this helps (but it won't)
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 01:39 PM
idk what to tell you, George is happy, his brother is not. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_Mice_and_Men)
His brother wants more from life, but george is content.
Content with himself, not with life.
That's what its all about.
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 02:12 PM
New SpaceX logo :p
https://i.imgur.com/S2mSGo5.png
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 02:14 PM
What was it that got Elon Musk in trouble?
I heard it was some poll with pro-Russian outcomes or something?
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 02:17 PM
He's saying all the shit you and I would say so the world is naturally melting down over it.
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 02:20 PM
Horrible, unforgivable, reprehensible stuff like this:
https://i.imgur.com/tyzcfbD.png
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 02:20 PM
From what I heard he put out a poll that asked what people thought the outcome of the war would be and some of the choices were 'Russia wins', etc?
Not sure why people would be bothered by that. That doesn't make him Pro-Russian.
People treat everything as some kind of weird religious cult now. If you even consider thinking against the grain they cast you aside like some non-believer.
It's really fucking weird.
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 02:21 PM
Horrible, unforgivable, reprehensible stuff like this:
How horrible...:rolleyes:
Basanos
10-05-2022, 02:22 PM
That force has been present throughout history, it's just amplified lately due to the longer reach of modern means of communication.
I still think the modern insane era is a direct result of the nature of the information age, a lot of the old systems of propaganda stopped working so they had to get re-balanced to make more effective propaganda. Propaganda got streamlined, to the point that many of us don't even perceive it.
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 02:24 PM
It is a pretty bold stance to take as such a public figure.
I still think the modern insane era is a direct result of the nature of the information age
https://youtu.be/V5HJfLxjcxo?t=4158
:o
magnetaress
10-05-2022, 03:29 PM
Surely this Trump and Putin worshipping, internet addicted conspiracy theorist is more trustworthy than Chris Wallace or whoever :p
I think the only being jib worships is G-d and he hopes so because it may accidently be satan, and probably the hebrew g-d so there's that.
From what I heard he put out a poll that asked what people thought the outcome of the war would be and some of the choices were 'Russia wins', etc?
Not sure why people would be bothered by that. That doesn't make him Pro-Russian.
People treat everything as some kind of weird religious cult now. If you even consider thinking against the grain they cast you aside like some non-believer.
It's really fucking weird.
ppl have absolutely lost their mind i never thought i would see in my life time witches being burned at the stake but i think its gonna happen soon\
Elon has got to be making sacrifices by doing all this to show us who we are... it aint even about being rich anymore for him.
Kaveh
10-05-2022, 03:49 PM
What was it that got Elon Musk in trouble?
I heard it was some poll with pro-Russian outcomes or something?
He said Ukraine should be neutral, Russia gets crimea and the rest of the East and south have UN administered referenda to vote on where they’d like to go (Ukraine or Russia) with crimea’s water supply assured by Ukraine
Naturally it’s dumb because secession is not a rigut if parties don’t agree, and especially not at gunpoint through the invasion of an irredentist nuclear power
Reiwa
10-05-2022, 03:49 PM
Elon has got to be making sacrifices by doing all this to show us who we are... it aint even about being rich anymore for him.
I don't think they can force him to buy it, court will just order him to pay a breach penalty for balking on the deal. But he gets to keep yoyo-ing them for giggles until then.
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 03:54 PM
Let's make ukraine nato and build a temple in israel.
Done.
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 03:56 PM
He said Ukraine should be neutral, Russia gets crimea and the rest of the East and south have UN administered referenda to vote on where they’d like to go (Ukraine or Russia) with crimea’s water supply assured by Ukraine
Naturally it’s dumb because secession is not a rigut if parties don’t agree, and especially not at gunpoint through the invasion of an irredentist nuclear power
If he said that, it's a dumb take.
That would be capitulating to Russian aggression, and it would only encourage them.
Ukraine should fight for every inch of their land.
That being said, Russia is going to freak if they don't have access to warm water ports - so they may want to consider the awkward option of leasing ports to Russia (like they did pre-2014) but that sounds like sharing a house with your ex-wife.
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 03:57 PM
I don't think they can force him to buy it, court will just order him to pay a breach penalty for balking on the deal. But he gets to keep yoyo-ing them for giggles until then.
Twitter? I think it's a done deal. He could have control as early as this Friday.
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 04:00 PM
"if we dont have ports, we will nuke the ocean and kill 1/3rd of the sealife so none can have the ocean!"
that'd be awesome
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 04:06 PM
🤦
https://i.imgur.com/fHp5cnh.png
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 04:07 PM
"if we dont have ports, we will nuke the ocean and kill 1/3rd of the sealife so none can have the ocean!"
that'd be awesome
Getting into fights over warm water ports is essentially a Russian pastime.
It's how they got their ass kicked by Japan and later had uprisings over it.
History may not repeat but it sure does rhyme.
Reiwa
10-05-2022, 04:17 PM
Twitter? I think it's a done deal. He could have control as early as this Friday.
I think he pulls the football away again.
Jibartik
10-05-2022, 04:17 PM
Is elon going all in on twitter this morning so he can ban Garry Kasparov?
Encroaching Death
10-05-2022, 04:29 PM
I think he pulls the football away again.
I hope he does. That shit will be hilarious
Kaveh
10-05-2022, 08:43 PM
If he said that, it's a dumb take.
That would be capitulating to Russian aggression, and it would only encourage them.
Ukraine should fight for every inch of their land.
That being said, Russia is going to freak if they don't have access to warm water ports - so they may want to consider the awkward option of leasing ports to Russia (like they did pre-2014) but that sounds like sharing a house with your ex-wife.
He did say it. He’s a dumb ass
He’d be homeless if we didn’t subsidize electric cars. He’s obese and ugly and that’s pretty telling
Trexller
10-05-2022, 11:29 PM
Russian military to new recent draftees: "We can only give you uniforms and weapons. Everything else you have to provide. Call your wives and girlfriends, ask them to send you pads and tampons for when you get shot in Ukraine."
6OSroys7RWY
Kaveh
10-05-2022, 11:53 PM
Moldova and Georgia should take back their territory
That would be very funny
Trexller
10-05-2022, 11:56 PM
Moldova and Georgia should take back their territory
That would be very funny
then germany takes the lebensraum just to salt the wound...
or have they been playing the loonnngg game since 1944...
Kaveh
10-05-2022, 11:59 PM
Kaliningrad is interesting. Poland could roll over it in about 15 minutes. Russia only has nukes and the orc Zerg
Scary because they’re low IQ, paranoid, and vengeful
Trexller
10-06-2022, 12:10 AM
whats russia's next move gonna be, after this "partial mobilization" fails spectacularly?
they don't have enough trained up/equipped real military, they can't buy anything from any nation other than china, NK, iran.
they already lost well beyond the soldiers and equipment that they lost in their 80s afghanistan war.
what do they possibly hope to achieve? they tried to blow up their gas pipeline as a false flag operation, but the entire world just went, "bruh, we know you did it"
Putin gonna nuke a russian city just to have a false flag reason to launch against NATO cities?
remember this is the guy who blew up like 6 russian apartment buildings so that he could justify killing the "terrorists" in Georgia. They're so stupid tho, later the UN goes in takes a few samples and then reports, "yeah this is residue of an explosive used exclusively by the Spetznaz, but georgian terrorists attacked you?"
whatever is going on in the Kremlin atm, is beyond me. mind boggling.
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