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Gustoo
02-28-2022, 08:30 PM
"OMG UKRAINE PROVOKED ME BY NOT HAVING A PUPPET PRESIDENT" "OMG UKRAINE PROVOKED ME BY NOT BEING TOTALLY DISARMED"
"I FEEL SO PROVOKED RIGHT NOW" - Moscow
NATO has been surrounding Russia since 1949 and never once made any incursions whatsoever into Russian sovereign territory.
The same can not be said for Russia, who has invaded their ex-puppet countries on many occasions.
Tell me how me locking my front door is provocation to the murderer who wants to kick it down "If they left the door unlocked and allowed me to confirm that they had no weapons inside, I would not be coming in to kill and rob them"
Thats literally what Moscow is saying to Ukraine and the rest of the world.
The Americans started the Russo-Ukrainian War of 2022 how...
Are you going to mention hegemonic power games?
Did someone get outmaneuvered by crafty information-mongers from Foggy Bottom?
I think this kind of argument further reflects the infantilization of our society. The most popular app on the store? It's a game! It's all games! We're clicking buttons, we're getting shiny lights and sounds, big rewards, score going up. For decades now, it's all xbox and playstation and gaming everything is a game. Would you like to parlay your cash with the NFL?
So now everything is a game. Some idiot in a suit with an expensive degree starts talking about hegemony and power games and boom! there's something I can identify with! The gamification of politics and social endeavors is complete.
Vladimir Putin started this war. He gave the order, he said let's start this war and it started. Whatever was behind his decision is immaterial.
You believe Vladimir Putin to be an NPC. He has no control, he is told by the GM what to do. He has no agency, no responsibility. He is a tool of the West, as is Zalinskyy.
His tribe says Putin = good, Biden = bad. That is imperative #1, so he has to find a way to make world events fit into that paradigm. Square pegs in round holes in this case, though. He's got to realize on some level how ridiculous that position is.
Jibartik
02-28-2022, 08:36 PM
"OMG UKRAINE PROVOKED ME BY NOT HAVING A PUPPET PRESIDENT" "OMG UKRAINE PROVOKED ME BY NOT BEING TOTALLY DISARMED"
"I FEEL SO PROVOKED RIGHT NOW" - Moscow
NATO has been surrounding Russia since 1949 and never once made any incursions whatsoever into Russian sovereign territory.
The same can not be said for Russia, who has invaded their ex-puppet countries on many occasions.
Tell me how me locking my front door is provocation to the murderer who wants to kick it down "If they left the door unlocked and allowed me to confirm that they had no weapons inside, I would not be coming in to kill and rob them"
Thats literally what Moscow is saying to Ukraine and the rest of the world.
I don’t know how many times I have to say it America provoked Russia and used Ukraine as cannon fodder.
Jibartik
02-28-2022, 08:38 PM
OK Lune anyone who doesn’t love the establishment or the war in Ukraine is a Trump supporter I just fucking called the guy an antichrist you giraffe.
It’s too bad you didn’t learn to be the way you are now back in 2000 so you could’ve been slobbering George bushes knob like you’re doing it to the presidents now
New_Guy
02-28-2022, 08:57 PM
I don’t know how many times I have to say it America provoked Russia and used Ukraine as cannon fodder.
No, strategically the Black Sea is the biggest tactical weakness that Russia has, if you want to take over Russia all you would need is to hold down the black sea.
Which is why Putin has always diverted all of his attention to that region, from installing puppet regimes in neighboring countries to forging alliances with Turkey. He locked down Gerogia and Crimea the main entrances into russia around the black sea and made alliances with Azerbaijan to block off entrance from the Caspian Sea, all that was left is Ukraine.
Once all of that region belonged to Russia it would be impossible to mount a successful invasion.
Elizondo
02-28-2022, 09:08 PM
No war for wind turbines!
BlackBellamy
02-28-2022, 09:12 PM
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/02/28/sweden-arms-ukraine/
5,000 anti-tank launchers (Bofors AT-4), 35,000 field rations, 5,000 helmets, and 5,000 pieces of body armor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT4
The AT4 requires little training and is quite simple to use, making it suitable for general issue
Every day Ukraine gets stronger through that giant un-interdicted western border.
starkind
02-28-2022, 09:18 PM
Musk can just rocket in ppl. There's no way around 800 nukes tho. Even if half don't go off.
Getting everyone to go down to like 80 nukes when there's a world government...that keeps everyone sorta in check while leaving nukes on the table for just this side of madness to bully the country that steps outa line.
Maybe his Generals are like owned by illuminati and this will really well and truly collapse Russia once and for all. They'll let the U.N. in to give aid and food and the disarmament will begin. Kazakhstan will rule the world. And there'll be a red 2.0. Meanwhile we make contact with peaceful aliens via wormholes. That just happened to be there all over the place all along.
Coffee is free along with fortified honeybuns. There's a hard daily limit set on caloric intake. And if you work the planetary restoration project u get 1 Xtra honeybuns rations worth of calories. Beautiful golden shining monuments are built all over the world and sex is great again. Everyone lives 800 years.
Topgunben
02-28-2022, 09:39 PM
I think it’s funny how liberals are trying to pin this on republicans and trump as if it is their fault.
Funny how Russia decides to make its move during Biden and Obamas terms and not Trumps.
But even with that said, I don’t blame Biden for Russians attack. Sure he is a weak, walking skin bag of bones, but just because he is that, doesn’t mean he caused Russias attack. That would be like saying that you deserved to get beat up because you have noodle arms.
Additionally, Jibartik, this war in Ukraine is your fault because you didn’t vote for Trump two times. You knew he was a man of peace yet you chose not to support him and instead let Biden win.
unsunghero
02-28-2022, 09:48 PM
I think it’s funny how liberals are trying to pin this on republicans and trump as if it is their fault.
Funny how Russia decides to make its move during Biden and Obamas terms and not Trumps.
But even with that said, I don’t blame Biden for Russians attack. Sure he is a weak, walking skin bag of bones, but just because he is that, doesn’t mean he caused Russias attack. That would be like saying that you deserved to get beat up because you have noodle arms.
Additionally, Jibartik, this war in Ukraine is your fault because you didn’t vote for Trump two times. You knew he was a man of peace yet you chose not to support him and instead let Biden win.
Well, technically someone with noodle arms is more likely to be targeted by a bully because they’re seen as an easier target. That’s why if the nerd with noodle arms would just punch the bully in the nose, even if he loses the fight the bully would re-evaluate and reconsider the risk with targeting seemingly weaker people and that nerd could have spared many future targets some bullying
But I agree that there is no way to guarantee Putin wouldn’t have invaded had Trump won this last election. I do think Trump’s unpredictability and willingness to go back and forth with Kim Jong Un about nuking each other could have made Putin apprehensive, however. Nor can I promise Trump would have somehow stopped Putin had he invaded
Reiwa
02-28-2022, 09:50 PM
No warblood for wind turbines!
Ftfy noob 🤪
BlackBellamy
02-28-2022, 11:37 PM
The second biggest loser here is going to be China.
China now knows they will never take Taiwan militarily. It's diplomacy or nothing. They might get Taiwan eventually, but now they're gonna have to buy it and that's way more expensive.
The US is going to be showing all the nice Chinese invasion craft piled up in the harbor and the planes with paratroopers and the missiles on trains heading south and this time the entire world will believe them right away. And China's precious and fragile economy will crater right quick and the people will be very very angry.
Ha ha ha that's what you get for being lazy Xi! If only you went first you could have gotten it because you would have done a better job than that bumbling Russian fool. But he went first and fucked you in the ass. When he came over the for the Olympics you should have told him any move into Ukraine means war and sent his shocked ass home.
New_Guy
03-01-2022, 12:17 AM
I think it’s funny how liberals are trying to pin this on republicans and trump as if it is their fault.
Funny how Russia decides to make its move during Biden and Obamas terms and not Trumps.
But even with that said, I don’t blame Biden for Russians attack. Sure he is a weak, walking skin bag of bones, but just because he is that, doesn’t mean he caused Russias attack. That would be like saying that you deserved to get beat up because you have noodle arms.
Additionally, Jibartik, this war in Ukraine is your fault because you didn’t vote for Trump two times. You knew he was a man of peace yet you chose not to support him and instead let Biden win.
I haven't seen any libs blame Trump just Trump supporters blaming Biden, meanwhile this is all Putin's doing.
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 12:31 AM
I keep hearing on TV about the rag-tag underequipped badly trained Ukrainian army in the face of this highly trained well-equipped Russian force and how everyone is so surprised at how well they are doing.
So first of all, the Ukrainian army is NATO-trained. For the past since Crimea, there have been US/Euro people in there training them in everything, from c&c to doctrine to operational to tactical. While overall the Ukrainian army lacks the specialized and elite forces that characterize large national armies, their regular troops are better trained than their counterparts.
Second, the Ukrainian army has combat experience and has used all the weapon systems in actual operations. There are no Russian troops with any combat experience. Their last conflict was 8 years ago and due to extremely low retention rate (don't use conscripts!) all those veterans have cycled out. Meanwhile the Ukrainians have been rotating their units in and out of the Donbass for all that time, retaining a combat-experienced cadre.
Because yes, there has been a war going on since 2014. You can call it low intensity conflict, friction, probes, whatever. But real weapons were being used and real people were blown up.
The following videos predate the current conflict. They are all years old.
PRECISE TARGETING:
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ANTI-TANK GUN VS PERSONNEL CARRIER
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ATGM VS BMP
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FUCKING AWESOME MUSIC TO ACCOMPANY THREE ATGM STRIKES VS BUNKERS
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SAME MUSIC DRONE ASSISTED ARTILLERY STRIKES VS FIXED POSITIONS
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ROUSING MUSIC TO BRING DRONE ASSISTED ARTILLERY STRIKES VS RESTING TANKERS
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EERILY QUIET TWIN ATGM ATTACK VS WE'RE DRIVING LOADED MISSILE LAUNCHERS ACROSS OPEN FIELD AND SILHOUETTED
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I'M WONDERING WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT GIANT 40 MILE TRAFFIC JAM FULL OF COMBAT VIRGINS ON THEIR WAY TO GLORY
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SAME DAY PETROL DELIVERY SERVICE VS MY TRENCH IS BURNING I AM BURNING EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE
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YOU CAN NEVER DEFEAT US ACCORDION TRIO VS ABSOLUTELY ANYONE
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If anyone mentions a barrel in the dirt, one pointed at accordionist's crotch and the last one right at the guy's face all you have to know is for these guys, like the US special forces, the finger is the safety.
Those three guys are the reason Putin has failed to take any major city so far. Because when the advancing Russian troops hear that music, they know the jig is up.
I think that last video illustrates more than anything why Ukraine is going to win. These guys have been sitting on rubble and playing the accordion for 8 years now. They send confused children against them. That's a whole war crime in itself.
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 12:43 AM
Meanwhile, Russia vs China vs US military recruitment videos
I just hope our training is still top notch
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfe6d6MzeLM
starkind
03-01-2022, 12:46 AM
@unshunghero well... maybe America is transitioning into like a Civil peacekeeping force! Where we go in and build bridges or stuff ..Instead of like idk... murderous imperial stormtroopers (neverwhere im /s) :o
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In reply to BlackBellamy's vidz
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I have not seen a Ukrainian miss yet :p
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Back@ unsunghero. Maybe the rich guys are scared and want to dismantle our military so other ones can come in and "stabilize" us? Food for thought.
Sorry for the nightmares!
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 01:58 AM
Canadian trucker convoy about to arrive in Kiev
starkind
03-01-2022, 02:37 AM
Ide be worrying hard about the o'le enemy at the gates sniperoo thing happennin.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 03:18 AM
https://i.imgur.com/LIY0yZZ.png
Mblake1981
03-01-2022, 04:27 AM
^
i have seen these all day lol
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 04:31 AM
https://i.imgur.com/LIY0yZZ.png
I heard a rumor that the men on that island who told the Russians to F themselves were captured, not killed?
I dunno what to believe, I hope it’s true that they survived but I dunno
Edit: that’s not to say that obviously innocent Ukrainian have not died, before anyone jumps down my throat for mentioning the speculation
starkind
03-01-2022, 10:15 AM
Ya. I've seen a few different reports they are alive.
No proof of life tho.
https://i.imgur.com/tGEY1tT.png
Botten
03-01-2022, 11:13 AM
Meanwhile, Russia vs China vs US military recruitment videos
I just hope our training is still top notch
The best Ad was the American one the willingness to come from so much and still seek out a purpose. Even better it strived to show we take everyone regardless of their sex, gender or orientation. It is just sad we strive to make this possible under democrat presidents but shun equality under republican presidents. (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40729996)
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 11:14 AM
On February 28th, several DPW workers from the 256th Heroic Buffer Overflow Battalion replaced over 28,629 street signs in one night, leading over 900 Russian tanks to immediately turn around and drive full speed into the Black Sea.
They are known as The Overtime Falsifiers And Long Lunch Break Takers Of Kiev!
https://i.imgur.com/3z6K8pf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kNbSZKl.jpg
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 11:23 AM
The best Ad was the American one the willingness to come from so much and still seek out a purpose. Even better it strived to show we take everyone regardless of their sex, gender or orientation. It is just sad we strive to make this possible under democrat presidents but shun equality under republican presidents. (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40729996)
I think the only thing that is sad is the constant posting of stupid links meant to prove irrelevant partisan talking points. I'm going to tell you that the Democrats are racists (in general) and have done more to destroy racial harmony and equality than the Republicans, and the only link I'm going to post is CIVIL WAR WAS STARTED BY DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY LOVED SLAVERY and the other link is DEMOCRATS SENT DOGS AT BLACK PEOPLE ON THE SELMA BRIDGE and the man who signed the law that completely destroyed the black family was a DEMOCRAT and the law was written by DEMOCRATS so I think the matter is settled, any party that starts a civil war because they love slavery and turns on water hoses on black people for complaining is irredeemably damaged and should dissolve in shame. That they didn't tells me everything I need to know.
Anyway, of course I don't think any of that because I can think for myself, but it's pretty funny.
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 11:36 AM
The best Ad was the American one the willingness to come from so much and still seek out a purpose. Even better it strived to show we take everyone regardless of their sex, gender or orientation. It is just sad we strive to make this possible under democrat presidents but shun equality under republican presidents. (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40729996)
We’ve had women in our military for a long time, the girl being a girl is nothing novel
And I give less than a shit about who or what her MOM is sexually attracted to. That has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to be a good soldier. They couldn’t even use a lesbian to virtue signal, they had to use a soldier’s lesbian Mom, who wasn’t a soldier herself, who’s only mentioned because of her bedroom preferences and their desire to virtue signal. And that’s how far they had to reach to do it
So no, I don’t agree. At all
starkind
03-01-2022, 11:47 AM
Ya it's annoying people are using the war to promote their agenda at home.
Do that later. After you send your young men to help rebuild infrastructure.
Also, massive protests... there are hundreds of thousands of Russians protesting. Soldiers defecting and surrendering. Putting their lives on the line just 1000 meters from the Kremlin.
(Sorry vindman link not apolitical shows protests though)
“Courage is when you do the right thing and not the comfortable thing. These protesters deserve all of the respect.” https://imgur.com/gallery/Zj2Uq8f
The vibe in Moscow right now https://imgur.com/gallery/vHYM1Bo
It may not look like it. These Russians are risking their lives for Ukraine and the world. They deserve our help and support. I'm afraid that our sanctions will hurt these people for decades.
Theres other sources and posts showing the Russian police trying to drag away people and other protesters dragging the people back.
Remember in Russia protesting or loitering where the police do not want you is very serious and dangerous.
We owe it to these Russians to minimize economic casualties help them recover. Regardless of if they succeed.
I don't have the time to find more right now. Spread the word. The Russian is not your enemy! The Russian government is!
Poverty doesn't make the world better or stop wars.
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starkind
03-01-2022, 12:06 PM
Take it to the political (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3429397#post3429397) thread.
Slava Ukraini!
Reiwa
03-01-2022, 12:30 PM
We’ve had women in our military for a long time, the girl being a girl is nothing novel
And I give less than a shit about who or what her MOM is sexually attracted to. That has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to be a good soldier. They couldn’t even use a lesbian to virtue signal, they had to use a soldier’s lesbian Mom, who wasn’t a soldier herself, who’s only mentioned because of her bedroom preferences and their desire to virtue signal. And that’s how far they had to reach to do it
So no, I don’t agree. At all
Memeing American freedom at oppressive regimes is always a good use of time. 😎🍦
Reiwa
03-01-2022, 12:35 PM
Anyway the musclebears in the Russian vid are all (probably gay) models/actors.
The average Russian conscript is a starving twink.
Gotta eat big to get big.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 12:37 PM
Well we are staring down the barrel of World War III and we finally have some sort of weird unity that we should just go all in on that direction.
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 12:39 PM
Memeing American freedom at oppressive regimes is always a good use of time. 😎🍦
Lol yes
And the most important of those being right to free speech, right to peaceably assemble (the lack of this preventing Russian citizens from voicing their displeasure at Putin). The right to be out of the closet about how I love sucking dick is gonna be kinda lower on the totem pole for me
I guess you could say it’s still free speech to want to tell everyone about who you want to fuck, but being free to voice displeasure at your own leaders is a generally better measure of how oppressed a citizenship is
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 12:48 PM
Soon we will begin to see signs of mutiny among the Russian armed forces.
EDIT:
I started this whole experience thinking the Ukrainians would force the Russians out after a prolonged insurgency directed by the Lviv-based western rump state that would take years and years.
I later became convinced that the Ukrainians would force a stalemate, allowing Putin to claim victory by annexing the Donbass provinces and declaring Ukraine free of "Nazis" and "drug addicts".
My current thinking is that this will be a clear Russian defeat, with no possible way to save face, a ruined economy and a disgraced military.
But I have a feeling, getting a little stronger every day, that the final outcome will be regime change in Russia.
Botten
03-01-2022, 12:53 PM
I think the only thing that is sad is the constant posting of stupid links meant to prove irrelevant partisan talking points. I'm going to tell you that the Democrats are racists (in general) and have done more to destroy racial harmony and equality than the Republicans, and the only link I'm going to post is CIVIL WAR WAS STARTED BY DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY LOVED SLAVERY and the other link is DEMOCRATS SENT DOGS AT BLACK PEOPLE ON THE SELMA BRIDGE and the man who signed the law that completely destroyed the black family was a DEMOCRAT and the law was written by DEMOCRATS so I think the matter is settled, any party that starts a civil war because they love slavery and turns on water hoses on black people for complaining is irredeemably damaged and should dissolve in shame. That they didn't tells me everything I need to know.
Anyway, of course I don't think any of that because I can think for myself, but it's pretty funny.
Had nothing to do with race.
And typical close minded rant solves nothing when you are trying to discuss partisan.
Live in the now and be more open to change.
Botten
03-01-2022, 12:57 PM
We’ve had women in our military for a long time, the girl being a girl is nothing novel
And I give less than a shit about who or what her MOM is sexually attracted to. That has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to be a good soldier. They couldn’t even use a lesbian to virtue signal, they had to use a soldier’s lesbian Mom, who wasn’t a soldier herself, who’s only mentioned because of her bedroom preferences and their desire to virtue signal. And that’s how far they had to reach to do it
So no, I don’t agree. At all
All walks of people and backgrounds should be welcome to enlist.
The video appears to be about a real young lady with this very background.
Sorry the video was to liberal and open minded for you.
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Jibartik
03-01-2022, 01:01 PM
My current thinking is that this will be a clear Russian defeat, with no possible way to save face, a ruined economy and a disgraced military.
I didnt think they would actually go in, and you were right bout that, so you may be right about this.
I still think they will setup shop in kiev, and then force a negotiation to get what they wanted.
But waking up this morning to the EU with that 1 minuet applause for zel, makes me think that they will take him in, which changes that theory.
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 01:01 PM
The Slavs are very into symbolism. That's one of the reasons for repressive speech policies. US doesn't really have that experience, I mean we have the flag and eagle which we take half-seriously. Over there symbols are serious business.
Somebody has thrown red dye under the bridge of St Petersburg's Griboiedov canal.
It is right in front of the Church of the Savior of Spilled Blood, the site where Tsar Alexander II was assassinated in March 1881. He was assassinated because he was a tyrant.
The message is clear.
https://i.imgur.com/BghG5Hi.jpg
EDIT: whoever did this is facing 20 years in prison if caught.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 01:02 PM
All walks of people and backgrounds should be welcome to enlist.
The video appears to be about a real young lady with this very background.
Sorry the video was to liberal and open minded for you.
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No you are right it says all walks of people and backgrounds should come and enlist.
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unsunghero
03-01-2022, 01:05 PM
All walks of people and backgrounds should be welcome to enlist.
The video appears to be about a real young lady with this very background.
Sorry the video was to liberal and open minded for you.
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Her mom’s background was more important than her background. Like I said, usually the most important characteristic is mentioned first, and that happened to be that her mom likes to have sex with women. Then as an afterthought the fact that her mom overcame some injury, which is insulting in my opinion that they put that second. It also has absolutely nothing to do with her overcoming an injury, which isn’t any harder for gay people. Maybe they could have used an example of her mom overcoming oppression as a gay person, but they probably couldn’t even find an example of this
The only reason they talk about her mom at all, or chose to use this girl is because her mom likes to have sex with women, which is also insulting. Sorry you can’t see that
starkind
03-01-2022, 01:14 PM
Hi! I'm a dues ex player. I became a J.C. Denton fan after joining the US Army. /s
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 01:20 PM
I have zero predictions for what will happen if Putin fails this incursion and is some how removed from power. That's a wildcard.
I suppose we'll install a capitol in Astana to maintain order over there or something but who knows... Unity world goverment with some Russian leader that joins it would sure be compelling.
Still believe some figure will negotiate piece and be considered the dove that becomes the false messiah.
Botten
03-01-2022, 01:20 PM
Her mom’s background was more important than her background. Like I said, usually the most important characteristic is mentioned first, and that happened to be that her mom likes to have sex with women. Then as an afterthought the fact that her mom overcame some injury, which is insulting in my opinion that they put that second. It also has absolutely nothing to do with her overcoming an injury, which isn’t any harder for gay people. Maybe they could have used an example of her mom overcoming oppression as a gay person, but they probably couldn’t even find an example of this
The only reason they talk about her mom at all, or chose to use this girl is because her mom likes to have sex with women, which is also insulting. Sorry you can’t see that
Or maybe and just hear me out on this... It was her real story.
If it just bothered you that her mom was gay or even mentioned why do you care it was a back story instead of
"hey I enlisted because I am privileged and need a meaning and sense of purpose."
Would that have gone over better. The back story was fine.
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unsunghero
03-01-2022, 01:24 PM
Or maybe and just hear me out on this... It was her real story.
If it just bothered you that her mom was gay or even mentioned why do you care it was a back story instead of
"hey I enlisted because I am privileged and need a meaning and sense of purpose."
Would that have gone over better. The back story was fine.
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I’m not saying her story isn’t real. I’m saying they picked her specifically because her mom was gay, and nothing you’ve said has changed my mind on this. It’s insulting to both her and her mom to put so much weight on that fact and to bring up her mom’s sexual preferences in a military recruitment video. If her mom had an anal pegging fetish, I guess that would be important for the public to know as well
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 01:25 PM
I still think they will setup shop in kiev, and then force a negotiation to get what they wanted.
But waking up this morning to the EU with that 1 minuet applause for zel, makes me think that they will take him in, which changes that theory.
The EU move is completely surprising to me. Fast track application the EU? What does "fast-track" in beureaucraticspeak mean? Tomorrow? Three years?
Let's say it gets crazy and EU admits them tomorrow. Or Thursday. Now we have Russia attacking the EU.
So now the CSDP applies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Security_and_Defence_Policy
And most people don't know this, but the EU has it's own army.
The Helsinki Headline Goal Catalogue is a listing of rapid reaction forces composed of 60,000 troops managed by the European Union, but under control of the countries who deliver troops for it.
Forces introduced at Union level include:
The battle groups (BG) adhere to the CSDP, and are based on contributions from a coalition of member states. Each of the eighteen Battlegroups consists of a battalion-sized force (1,500 troops) reinforced with combat support elements.
Now, follow this very carefully.
NATO said it would only defend itself, it would not participate in the Ukrainian conflict.
NATO has troops all over Europe. But these forces don't "belong" to NATO, they belong to their respective governments.
So for example, the Polish 16th "Pomeranian" Infantry Division can operate under NATO command. When it does so it's a NATO force.
But the 16th Infantry, like all Polish army forces, can also be assigned to fight under EU command.
The EU has not made any statements regarding their force posture and has not placed any restrictions on their use.
If the 16th Infantry Division advances into Ukraine as part of a EU force to help a member state under attack, it will not be operating as a NATO force. And if attacked, because it is operating outside it's own national territory, that will not trigger NATO Article 5 provisions.
If Ukraine is accepted into the EU, look for Polish and German tanks to advance east, fulfilling the dreams of both nations for the third time.
EDIT: I mention the 16th Pomeranian specifically for historical flavor. The Pomeranian was formed in 1919 for the specific purpose of fighting Bolsheviks and as part of the Polish 4th Army the division took part in the Kiev Offensive:
[the Red Army] troops were no match for the Polish forces. Piłsudski wanted to believe that the enemy would defend Kiev and a decisive battle would be fought on the city's outskirts, but that was not to be the case. For the most part, Yegorov's units refrained from challenging Piłsudski's armies and withdrew.
Kiev has a very rich history as a strategic target. My family was killed and forced to flee Kiev shortly after when the Red Army counterattacked.
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 01:26 PM
All walks of people and backgrounds should be welcome to enlist.
The video appears to be about a real young lady with this very background.
Sorry the video was to liberal and open minded for you.
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Bro none of that happy talk wins wars
bullets and bombs don't care if you 'stunning and brave' or if there is enough representation
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 01:29 PM
The EU move is completely surprising to me. Fast track application the EU? What does "fast-track" in beureaucraticspeak mean? Tomorrow? Three years?
Let's say it gets crazy and EU admits them tomorrow. Or Thursday. Now we have Russia attacking the EU.
So now the CSDP applies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Security_and_Defence_Policy
And most people don't know this, but the EU has it's own army.
Now, follow this very carefully.
NATO said it would only defend itself, it would not participate in the Ukrainian conflict.
NATO has troops all over Europe. But these forces don't "belong" to NATO, they belong to their respective governments.
So for example, the Polish 16th "Pomeranian" Infantry Division can operate under NATO command. When it does so it's a NATO force.
But the 16th Infantry, like all Polish army forces, can also be assigned to fight under EU command.
The EU has not made any statements regarding their force posture and has not placed any restrictions on their use.
If the 16th Infantry Division advances into Ukraine as part of a EU force to help a member state under attack, it will not be operating as a NATO force. And if attacked, because it is operating outside it's own national territory, that will not trigger NATO Article 5 provisions.
If Ukraine is accepted into the EU, look for Polish and German tanks to advance east, fulfilling the dreams of both nations for the third time.
exactly why waking up to the applause this morning I was like, oh shit its a wildcard day.
Totally figured they'd dismiss the application, in fact that's what I thought they'd do, but after this morning could they fast track it?
But at this point they cant say no, even I am getting shunned on this abstract retard forum for not wanting to join the march to world war 3. Those mf'ers gotta stay in line. (im not calling YOU a retarted, im calling all of us retards, including myself, so its not really an insult please dont take it as one)
Edit: whoa news just said they voted YES to them joining.
Might get bonkers!
Botten
03-01-2022, 01:57 PM
Bro none of that happy talk wins wars
bullets and bombs don't care if you 'stunning and brave' or if there is enough representation
Closed mindedness attracts more close mindedness.
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unsunghero
03-01-2022, 01:58 PM
ITT: Thinking people’s mom’s sexual preferences don’t belong in military recruitment videos is somehow close mindedness
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 01:59 PM
Is bottom saying the only thing stopping someone from actually being an attack helicopter, is if they opened their mind?
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 02:00 PM
Is bottom saying the only thing stopping someone from actually being an attack helicopter, is if they opened their mind?
Military recruitment videos don’t have any indigenous furry’s. Maybe they can get into their furry sexual preferences. Are they attracted to Sonic or Tails?
These are the things we need to know
Botten
03-01-2022, 02:02 PM
ITT: Thinking people’s mom’s sexual preferences don’t belong in military recruitment videos is somehow close mindedness
The shear fact the back story even bothered you speaks volumes.
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 02:10 PM
Closed mindedness attracts more close mindedness.
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Awww you hurt my feelz
Anyways, Testosterone wins wars. That's why there no female defensive linemen.
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 02:11 PM
The shear fact the back story even bothered you speaks volumes.
To you, yea. I find that inconsequential. Anyone else think volumes were spoken? I must be a homophobe huh? Even though I was friends with and directly worked with a gay man for years, going to his parties, laughing as he drunkenly flirted with me. Total homophobe
If you don’t like my homophobia, I suggest you find the ignore button. You seem to be the only one having a problem with my opinion
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 02:13 PM
What should we invest in if we're going into world war 3?
Botten
03-01-2022, 02:20 PM
To you, yea. I find that inconsequential. Anyone else think volumes were spoken? I must be a homophobe huh? Even though I was friends with and directly worked with a gay man for years, going to his parties, laughing as he drunkenly flirted with me. Total homophobe
If you don’t like my homophobia, I suggest you find the ignore button. You seem to be the only one having a problem with my opinion
Your opinion on the video was to show the difference between the 3. You could have chose something as wacky as this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHm8MeNzadQ).. but instead you chose the very video that has shown to inspire Elizondo:
Awww you hurt my feelz
Anyways, Testosterone wins wars. That's why there no female defensive linemen.
of all people (enough said).
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 02:20 PM
What should we invest in if we're going into world war 3?
Hormone blockers
Botten
03-01-2022, 02:22 PM
Hormone blockers
for proof in the pudding for the the above post.. oh sorry Elizondo you like to say puddin.
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 02:23 PM
Your opinion on the video was to show the difference between the 3. You could have chose something as wacky as this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHm8MeNzadQ).. but instead you chose the very video that has shown to inspire Elizondo:
of all people (enough said).
How dare you not pick a vid you didn’t know even existed. Solid argument, breugh
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 02:23 PM
The left watched the daily show for its news, now it literally has less than zero sense of humor.
Botten
03-01-2022, 02:24 PM
How dare you not pick a vid you didn’t know even existed. Solid argument, breugh
omg research on your stance; am I right?
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 02:25 PM
lmao "I did some online reaserch on your opinion, and it told me you actually were a covert KGB agent who is working for a neo nazi cult to takeover the united states"
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 02:25 PM
omg research on your stance; am I right?
The fact you can dig up another corny video doesn’t make the other any less insulting. And yes, it is insulting
Botten
03-01-2022, 02:27 PM
The fact you can dig up another corny video doesn’t make the other any less insulting. And yes, it is insulting
Hey there far more: https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/laughably-bad-recruitment-ads/
But you know which one wasn't in the list... yeah.... you know.
And hey.. knowing is half the battle. ;)
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Jibartik
03-01-2022, 02:30 PM
That commercial of the girl staring down the tornado gave me goosebumps
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 02:32 PM
Hey there far more: https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/laughably-bad-recruitment-ads/
But you know which one wasn't in the list... yeah.... you know.
And hey.. knowing is half the battle. ;)
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Yeah because other people don’t have the balls to say that putting someone’s mom’s sexuality at the forefront of their advertisement about their life is insulting to them and their mom for fear of being called a homophobe. Your sexuality is not an accomplishment, your mom’s sexual preferences don’t have anything to do with military recruitment, and it’s insulting to suggest it
Still waiting on a new video talking about a furry who has a Sonic fetish. Because inclusivity
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 02:33 PM
Botten livin in fantasy land
It's what you get when you coddle mental illness and it infects the military
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 02:33 PM
Can i see this pornhub video you guys are talking about? I want to see if it gives me goosebumps like the tornado one.
Botten
03-01-2022, 02:37 PM
Botten livin in fantasy land
It's what you get when you coddle mental illness and it infects the military
You are posting on a fantasy board you idiot.
And don't need to look much further than a pureblood Qanon voter for mental illness.
Unsunghero, you relate with him on the video. Just remember that.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 02:39 PM
lmao
"you're posting on a fantasy board!"
*sting of ad hominem
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 02:40 PM
You are posting on a fantasy board you idiot.
And don't need to look much further than a pureblood Qanon voter for mental illness.
Unsunghero, you relate with him on the video. Just remember that.
You prolly watch action movies where the 110 lb chick beats the shit out 200+ lb Chads and think it's plausible
Botten
03-01-2022, 02:41 PM
You prolly watch action movies where the 110 lb chick beats the shit out 200+ lb Chads and think it's plausible
Find a Therapist (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists)
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 02:42 PM
Here’s how you re-do the vid, that Botten touched on:
“I come from tough stock, here’s an example of my mom getting over an injury. I’m strong willed too, I used to be an activist fighting for our freedoms. But I’m also like you, a spoiled white sorority girl, who happens to be gay (still probably not worth mentioning but it can be tucked in at the end where it belongs because all it’s there to do is reinforce “I’m like you” to LBGT). Now I’m serving my country and you can too!
My mom pegs her wife!” (Sneak that bit in the end)
Kidding
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 02:45 PM
This is the problem with all the comic book movies
Folks like Botten started to believe females actually have super powers cuz they female
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 02:46 PM
News talking about how the convoy is stalled right now..
https://www.netflix.com/title/80092654
btw this might be a fun show to watch.
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 03:00 PM
I watched the video where Putin was declaring the strategic forces to be placed on heightened alert and at the very end it cut to the two guys who are actually responsible for launching the nukes. Two highly decorated generals, looking exactly like the stereotypical Russians you would imagine them to be.
https://i.imgur.com/fy5myM6.jpg
I want you to watch this video from this moment:
https://youtu.be/7YIoniUeTjw?t=42
He gives the order then the camera cuts to the two generals.
Watch carefully, then rewind to the 42 mark and watch again. And again.
Is that the enthusiastic attitude and deference you want to see from your Strategic Forces commanders?
Notice the guy on the left, his nod is tiny and perfunctory, he almost hesitated before he remembered that he was supposed to agree at the time.
More striking is the guy on the right. He never agrees. His mouth says "yes" but his entire body says "no". Watch carefully, he never nods. He appears to nod, he brings his chin down, but it never comes up. Instead he leans forward, breaking eye contact. He continues until he reaches a rest position, and then glances at Putin with a side-eye.
Both of these men are mulling over how they can remove Putin and still remain intact.
Reiwa
03-01-2022, 03:13 PM
I remember this ad from watching Nickelodeon alot as a kid. Bet most of you do too!
62tnJtLBQzQ
Targetted advertising was not newly invented for the gays.
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 03:15 PM
I got off the phone with some relatives on the Polish side of the border regarding the refugee situation.
The situation is terrible. The vast majority of the refugees are women with children. Many have abandoned cars that ran out of fuel and walked up to 30 miles in the cold weather with their kids to reach the border with no facilities on the Ukrainian side to take care of anyone and another 24-48 hour wait just to cross to the Polish side. Many are sick and dehydrated.
The Polish people are trying to help as much as they can. My relatives described literal mountains of supplies, food, medicine, bedding, everything being delivered from all over Poland and beyond. Everyone is donating groceries, blankets, water, anything they can.
The problem of course is logistics. The huge gaggle of refugees is very localized and sending supply trucks into that crowd can quickly become a giant problem. So the main thing is to provide transport away from the border to places where humanitarian relief can be administered.
It is very fortunate that many refugees have relatives in Poland, so their families have been sending down people to stand there with signs over their heads like Uber drivers hoping to spot them and take them to safety.
There is also a hotline set up where people can register their house as a refugee shelter and they will send people to live in their house according to their capacity to host. Many people have signed up and are hosting Ukrainian families.
I know its really bad because several people I spoke with had a hard time holding it in, many spoke through tears.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 03:15 PM
Both of these men are mulling over how they can remove Putin and still remain intact.
I have asbuergers so maybe that's why I dont understand their deepest internal dialogues by looking at their faces for less than 1 second but maybe you're right.
But to me it looks like two cold blooded people following direction without showing emotion.
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 03:15 PM
I watched the video where Putin was declaring the strategic forces to be placed on heightened alert and at the very end it cut to the two guys who are actually responsible for launching the nukes. Two highly decorated generals, looking exactly like the stereotypical Russians you would imagine them to be.
https://i.imgur.com/fy5myM6.jpg
I want you to watch this video from this moment:
https://youtu.be/7YIoniUeTjw?t=42
He gives the order then the camera cuts to the two generals.
Watch carefully, then rewind to the 42 mark and watch again. And again.
Is that the enthusiastic attitude and deference you want to see from your Strategic Forces commanders?
Notice the guy on the left, his nod is tiny and perfunctory, he almost hesitated before he remembered that he was supposed to agree at the time.
More striking is the guy on the right. He never agrees. His mouth says "yes" but his entire body says "no". Watch carefully, he never nods. He appears to nod, he brings his chin down, but it never comes up. Instead he leans forward, breaking eye contact. He continues until he reaches a rest position, and then glances at Putin with a side-eye.
Both of these men are mulling over how they can remove Putin and still remain intact.
Considering it’s not just nuking America, but nuking every country that sent aid to Ukraine is bat shit crazy and they know it, that is the expected reaction
America does have to be careful. Providing the weapons that literally are killing Russian soldiers will elicit some future retaliation, undeniably. It’s just a matter of what form that will take. And I’ve heard some calls for pushing the envelope such as maybe we can just shoot their planes down but not engage their troops as if that somehow isn’t engaging them…
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 03:26 PM
Testosterone wins wars. .
Soon we will begin to see signs of mutiny among the Russian armed forces.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/2950497/senior-defense-official-holds-a-background-briefing/
That said, there has been, in the last six days, evidence of a certain risk-averse behavior by the Russian military
And you guys are seeing it for yourselves on the ground, where, you know, units are surrendering, sometimes without a fight, and they've got -- you know, a lot of these soldiers are conscripts, never been in combat before. Some of them, we believe, weren't even told they were going to be in combat.
In many cases, what we're seeing are columns that are literally out of gas, and as I said earlier, now they're starting to run out of food for their troops.
Running out of food? Looks like the Russians need to increase their soy production!
Reiwa
03-01-2022, 03:30 PM
Insect protein will be a necessary staple in Russia diet after the West punished them economically 🦞🦞🦞
starkind
03-01-2022, 03:32 PM
Paradoxes Stellaris has a great (it's great because it's bad ironically) Federation system lol. Each member state contributes units from its own pool and the leader can design and build when it's in control though some system. So the leader changes hands. The units will do their own thing when your not the head of the Federation. When you are you can send them around and control them directly. This results in a completely weird mismatched force that is hard to retrofit. Belligerent leaders can scrap most of the force or engage them in pointless maneuvers. Although the Federation has to vote unanimously to open an offensive war.
What happens when your in a Federation can be absolutely hilarious. Also you can get lucky and completely dominate the map with a force 10x the size of everyone else.
I typically only gave the minimum effort giving units to the Federation (u have to give a certain amount) and maintain my own large standing force. Although the real fun wins where constantly pumping the Federations pool as much as possible.
Always fun. Completely random...having a range of random units .. some almost completely useless and obsolete on their own was always interesting.
Sometimes a particularly strong militant a Federation member would hand me an elite force well beyond the technology of anything anyone else or I could produce. The complexity was really fun.
Anyway I hate to see that play out real time. Ukraine is not a game to me. Yet... I think some of you may be amused by this anecdote.
EU membership is likely going to really help Ukraine.
Imagine if Belarus and Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan like solidified against Russia.
I don't think the generals would allow Putin to nuke them.
Gravydoo II
03-01-2022, 03:37 PM
They CANT hold it.
No matter how deep they go.
Nothing short of occupation for years, concentration camps, will make it part of russia.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 03:40 PM
Wouldnt be the tribulation if it wasnt. (https://youtu.be/hLEOfWYoz8Q?t=65)
Gustoo
03-01-2022, 03:52 PM
It's been a long time since there has been good global news and right now Ukraine's story is like standing under a waterfall forgetting all the B.S. we've been swimming in.
Tunabros
03-01-2022, 04:17 PM
Russia is gonna stop soon
they got the entire world on their balls telling them to cut this shit out
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 04:26 PM
No one is going to believe the Russian army is capable of sustained offensive operations for a long long time.
This is way worse than any Afghanistan pullout or even Vietnam. No one doubted our combat ability, we could have flattened both countries over and over but had no will. Everyone knows that the United States can pick any spot on Earth outside of Russia and China and take it in 3 days.
I want to give credit where it's due. The Red Army saved Europe from the Nazis, not the atomic bombs or the Normandy landings. When the Allies charged into Europe they were facing decimated and shell-shocked troops reconstituting from being slaughtered out east. And they didn't do it all with human wave attacks. Russia like Germany faced severe manpower shortages throughout the war. They won because they fought better, fought smarter, braver and their general staff proved far superior to the OKH.
They rode that reputation until today.
Look for Finland to start making territorial demands on Russia soon.
Tunabros
03-01-2022, 04:31 PM
either russia stops doing it
or they go ape shit and it escalates to nuclear war
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 04:34 PM
I would like to see Finland regain their territories.
Kaliningrad should be given two options, nationhood or Lithuania.
Crimea should be given to the Tatars. All Russians and Ukrainians to be removed, Crimean Tatars allowed to return and settle.
The Donbass should remain part of Ukraine.
After that a new constitution should be shoved down Russia's throat, making it's current borders forever and inviolate and turning Russia into a non-nuclear power.
Lastly, Russia and Ukraine to join NATO.
Then we all gang up on Lukashenko.
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 04:41 PM
Holy shit I think I just found the formula for world peace and my ultimate goal, the promotion of a one world government.
The sooner we get the Federation the sooner we can mate with the Vulcans!
Everyone has their own sexy Vulcan they would like to mate with I'm sure! Here is my perhaps surprising choice. But everyone has their tastes, amirite?
https://i.imgur.com/8s0HM4F.jpg
Tunabros
03-01-2022, 04:50 PM
drugs
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 04:52 PM
It's been a long time since there has been good global news and right now Ukraine's story is like standing under a waterfall forgetting all the B.S. we've been swimming in.
lmao this is 100% mark of the beast.
My man. People in ukraine are being burnt alive and exploded so you can feel better about local social politics :o
I mean, we're talking ww3 lol how is that not more BS than a virus or ugly president?
Im not trying to attack you haha just think it's funny that we feel this way.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 04:55 PM
Holy shit I think I just found the formula for world peace and my ultimate goal, the promotion of a one world government.
The sooner we get the Federation the sooner we can mate with the Vulcans!
Everyone has their own sexy Vulcan they would like to mate with I'm sure! Here is my perhaps surprising choice. But everyone has their tastes, amirite?
https://i.imgur.com/8s0HM4F.jpg
dude that's sick. I was trying to tell you that was the end goal of this thing.
I didnt know you were a mason! Im glad things are working out for you.
(Because it will summon jesus whom I think is p cool)
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 04:56 PM
Crimea should be given to the Tatars. All Russians and Ukrainians to be removed, Crimean Tatars allowed to return and settle.
Whoa whoa Black, sounds like you're in favor of...umm...ethnic....cleansing?
No! My discrimination would be based purely on self-declaration!
For example you would be asked hey are you a Crimean Tatar and any answer other than "yes" gets you deported. You could become a Crimean Tatar just by saying so. Of course then you get Crimean Tatar put on all your papers and it says so everywhere. You have to wear a fur hat on the official Tatar Day, which would be provided to you at low cost. That's it. No love of ponies or archery skills required.
And the country would have to be called Tatar Crimea.
Taaaah tar.
taaaaaaaaaataaaaaaa rrrrrrrrrrr
BELOW: THE HAT YOU WILL BE GIVEN.
https://i.imgur.com/ZZn38GK.jpg
Mblake1981
03-01-2022, 04:57 PM
Everyone has their own sexy Vulcan they would like to mate with I'm sure! Here is my perhaps surprising choice. But everyone has their tastes, amirite?
https://i.imgur.com/8s0HM4F.jpg
T'pol had some big tiddies.
https://i.imgur.com/UJqliLi.jpeg
Gravydoo II
03-01-2022, 05:01 PM
Remember when RD tried to pull the USA out of NATO?
Because "other countries owe the usa a lot of money"
which is not how that works, at all.
LOL
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 05:10 PM
dude that's sick. I was trying to tell you that was the end goal of this thing.
I didnt know you were a mason! Im glad things are working out for you.
(Because it will summon jesus whom I think is p cool)
My goals are:
1) The unification of Earth based on a strong executive/parliamentary model common in 'western democracies' today with a federation of states who have no independent military units with all former national borders serving purely administrative functions.
2) The concentration of resources towards outward expansion and colonization of all habitable planets and habitats with an ever expanding radius.
3) Starfleet. Specifically flying a Federation Command Cruiser.
I'm hoping to reach this goal within a decade or two. I don't want to be the Old Captain. I mean I know Picard was cool and all but Riker got a lot more...err...you know.
The timeline is a little fucked up I admit.
For example, Starfleet wasn't formed until way way later in my timeline. But here we go, we actually have the Space Force with the Star Trek emblem already so idk.
I know Putin makes a poor Khan, he has nowhere the charisma and physique of the incredible Ricardo Montalban, let alone the ability to deliver his lines, but I guess we get what we get.
Gustoo
03-01-2022, 05:12 PM
^^ yeah hes an idiot and that was one of the worst overtly cuck to russia moves of his presidency.
Jib - your conspiracy theory roots are going to deep on this one. Ukraine vs Russia is bigger than us. You can see that this situation did not align with western news outlets the way fox news and friends have been totally fucked up with this thing. Left wing american news also had no takes on this whatsoever other than as Bellamy said "somber head nodding" or whatever.
They aren't getting bombed FOR ME or FOR YOU. They're getting bombed because Putin thought it would be a cool win for him while hes getting older in years. He has spent all of his time focusing on manipulating the west (as you can see he was successful, the left expected Ukraine to get steamrolled and was sad that the bad was going to happen, and the right wanted to lend a hand to Putin)
But Ukraine had a spine and a leader with a spine, and they did what was right (not surrendering their childrens freedom to avoid a hassle) and look, the free world supports their actions.
Not about you. Not about me. It's just something that is happening because there is still a man like Putin with some power in this world. It's anyone's guess how much of a mess this will become. Putin isn't someone who will comfortably lose face, so the luckiest option is that he takes the blame for everything and is replaced by someone who doesn't feel the need to shake his saber all the time. He could also be replaced by someone even more belligerent and it could come out that Putin's posturing was to appeal to the other people who held power with him, and he was holding back a whole lot of madness. Who knows.
No one wants world war 3, give me a break. Is ANY military action involving Russia "WORLD WAR 3?!"
also - your view on the end times seems like you're hamming it up for forum entertainment value but it reeks of late 90's Tim LaHaye eschatology which is something that is basically brand new to Christianity. The only thing the Bible says definitively about the last days is that you won't see it coming. I think we are supposed to live every single day like it is our last day, throwing our whole effort towards rebuilding one another every single day as if the next time we rested would be eternal so there was no reason to hold back any effort.
Not run around trying to call shots wringing your hands for the world to end.
starkind
03-01-2022, 05:18 PM
Leanord Nemoy. Google him! He was Ukrainian!
As a kid he saw Kohanim, hereditary Priests, male-line descendants of Aaron. (A Rabbi could also be a Kohen.) Do the Vulcan salute. Ya'll should go get you some esoteric gnosis.
https://i.imgur.com/tqiDnT4.jpeg
Ooloo
03-01-2022, 05:19 PM
It really is a rare thing to just put yourself in the shoes of an old person, and consider human nature and self interest.
If you're some old dude who can fire nukes, I'm sure you talk a big game about caring about your grandchildren's grandchildren's future, but you might also just say "Hey I'm old, fuck it, I can do this so I'm gonna. Woops!".
Stop electing old people.
Homesteaded
03-01-2022, 05:23 PM
The right wanted to lend Putin a hand. You should pull your head out of your ass.
starkind
03-01-2022, 05:25 PM
This will freak Jibartik t f out. Hope he goes2 synagogue soon.
https://i.imgur.com/EmrX4zk.jpeg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohen
Hope this helps.
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Oh shit. It's in another symbol from Ireland, GB, ill have to do further research to verify. Lol.
Old World Order :p
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 05:46 PM
This looks tasty
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 05:56 PM
Dems started a new Cold War and maybe WW3 (with nukes) cuz of Trump Russia Collusion Hoax Conspiracy Theory
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 05:57 PM
My goals are:
1) The unification of Earth based on a strong executive/parliamentary model common in 'western democracies' today with a federation of states who have no independent military units with all former national borders serving purely administrative functions.
2) The concentration of resources towards outward expansion and colonization of all habitable planets and habitats with an ever expanding radius.
3) Starfleet. Specifically flying a Federation Command Cruiser.
I'm hoping to reach this goal within a decade or two. I don't want to be the Old Captain. I mean I know Picard was cool and all but Riker got a lot more...err...you know.
The timeline is a little fucked up I admit.
For example, Starfleet wasn't formed until way way later in my timeline. But here we go, we actually have the Space Force with the Star Trek emblem already so idk.
I know Putin makes a poor Khan, he has nowhere the charisma and physique of the incredible Ricardo Montalban, let alone the ability to deliver his lines, but I guess we get what we get.
https://i.imgur.com/jGyCZ2E.gif
Gustoo
03-01-2022, 05:57 PM
The right wanted to lend Putin a hand. You should pull your head out of your ass.
haha im just goofing but those guys are major cucks
starkind
03-01-2022, 05:57 PM
Next order of business. Translation and a deeper dive + investigation from that other symbol.
Tbh. Really sick to day.
Pray for Ukraine and Russia. However you will. Do not invoke Satanic wrath or domination tho!
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Botten
03-01-2022, 05:58 PM
Dems started a new Cold War and maybe WW3 (with nukes) cuz of Trump Russia Collusion Hoax Conspiracy Theory
Trump praises Zelensky as a 'brave man' two years after he tried to extort him (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-praises-zelensky-brave-man-010638341.html)
starkind
03-01-2022, 05:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jGyCZ2E.gif
Lol. Love this guy.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 06:03 PM
Trump praises Zelensky as a 'brave man' two years after he tried to extort him (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-praises-zelensky-brave-man-010638341.html)
spending less on military and avoiding a conflict for 4 years is a strange way to define extortion.
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 06:06 PM
Trump praises Zelensky as a 'brave man' two years after he tried to extort him (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-praises-zelensky-brave-man-010638341.html)
Biden family corruption in Ukraine real tho
How do you extort the Truth
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 06:09 PM
rnIPw_Who7E
Gustoo
03-01-2022, 06:11 PM
lol withholding previously agreed to and depended on aid as a way to blackmail into an investigation omg.
biden tho ya he sux too.
Reiwa
03-01-2022, 06:11 PM
https://i.imgur.com/trPTxyP.png
Horza
03-01-2022, 06:12 PM
spending less on military and avoiding a conflict for 4 years is a strange way to define extortion.
NEWSMAX: “I mean, he took a very tough stance against Russia. I'm surprised you don't think that he would have handled it better than Biden.”
BOLTON: “[Trump] barely knew where Ukraine was... It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians.” (https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1498668151827054596)
Botten
03-01-2022, 06:18 PM
Biden family corruption in Ukraine real tho
How do you extort the Truth
By preventing money to a country. Money that congress gave through a bipartisan a decision.
And a president offering it as only a bribe to push misinformation.
And Trumpie got impeached for it.
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 06:23 PM
guy cuts military spending by half a billion dollars and his 4 years of peace in ukraine is bookened by invasions with the same guy in the whtiehouse.
What links need to be supplied horza? none.
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 06:25 PM
By preventing money to a country. Money that congress gave through a bipartisan a decision.
And a president offering it as only a bribe to push misinformation.
And Trumpie got impeached for it.
That impeachment was a joke tho. Fake news
Biden family corruption in Ukraine real. Biden draggin the world into WW3 cuz of his shady deals in Ukraine
Jibartik
03-01-2022, 06:26 PM
Guys in the whitehouse during the ivasion of ukraine said russia was putting hits on soldiers and it turned out to be untrue.
Im sure that this war wasnt in the works since 2004
was drain the swamp real? who knows.
Horza
03-01-2022, 06:27 PM
Not surprised a Putin stan thinks withholding desperately needed military aid we had already committed to a longtime ally is big savings.
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 06:30 PM
If we had a deal with Mexico to provide them with 4000 Humvees to fight the drug cartels and then later we found out that a certain member of the Mexican government was engaged in a pay-to-play operation connected to then-current representatives of the US Government, would withholding those Humvees be a proper way of obtaining cooperation in that investigation after other, more diplomatic requests were rejected?
Let's assume for the purposes of this hypothetical that all premises are true, the President of the US is Kiku Obama LVII and the year is 376,000.
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 06:34 PM
Not surprised a Putin stan thinks withholding desperately needed military aid we had already committed to a longtime ally is big savings.
Maybe Biden can ask The Taliban to give the 80B in shiny new military equipment back he gifted them on his way out Afghanistan with his tail between his legs
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 06:35 PM
This is a bigger section of the trump quote about Putin being “smart”. He’s smart enough to have sanction-proofed his country, up to a certain point, by working out deals with China and India. And also smart enough to exploit our and other nation’s reliance on him for oil due to no US energy independence
“The NATO nations and indeed the world, as he looks over what’s happening strategically with no repercussions or threats whatsoever, they’re not so smart, they’re looking the opposite of smart. ‘If you take over Ukraine, we’re going to sanction you,’ they say. Sanction? Well that’s a pretty weak statement. Putin is saying, ‘Oh, they’re going to sanction me? They’ve sanctioned me for the last 25 years. You mean I can take over a whole country and they’re going to sanction me?”
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 06:48 PM
What I would have preferred NATO and the US to say to Putin as he prepared to invade, not after, is to threaten to do exactly what they are doing now
“If you invade we will impose the strictest sanctions Russia has ever seen, including no more SWIFT transfers which will result in a desperate rush on your banks by your own citizens, and full embargos on your oil. We will also supply endless amounts of weapons and supplies to Ukraine to hold you off while your economy suffers and crumbles”
Something like that. But I guess you can’t say what you don’t know you were planning to do…
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 06:50 PM
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1498698254938255360
Heavy multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) shelling of Kharkiv
SOUND UP!
Russian assault doctrine is to saturate the area with artillery then move in. Saturate and move in. There are Ukrainian front-line positions under all that. Maybe a quarter mile back is the 2nd line, then the 3rd, and so on. Each is going to get it's turn until the Russians run out of rockets.
The thinking is that the civilians will be so scared by the creeping barrage they will all run away, leaving everyone else a valid target, but the Russians don't care about that. There are surely occupied houses under all that now.
Modern warfare.
You log in. You get blown up. Never shot a round. Back into the queue.
Putin is playing his organ.
starkind
03-01-2022, 07:45 PM
I saw a pic of a captured thermobaric launcher. No ammo tho.
And the 40 mile convoy stalled.
Civilian casualties rising...the burned down a holocaust memorial..probably had orders to blame Ukraine.
Turning the cities to rubble will benefit the defenders. And further galvanize the rest of the world. Dumb move. Ukraine is fully committed. They now have a foreign legion. Irish bois heading down to help.
This is terrible. Bad outcome. Still I think Ukraine will hold.
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 07:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/HAaQ8Ge.jpg
Superior mode of transportation:
A) Eco-friendly.
B) Not blown up.
Notfame
03-01-2022, 07:53 PM
I don’t think putini is the kind of guy to just take the L and be like welp, they were right guys let’s pack it up and go home to be Russian losers together in the snow again.
My guess is that shit gets pretty savage. Could also just be slow burning them to disrupt agricultural production, set up blockades and wait for winters hunger to set in.
Gustoo
03-01-2022, 08:22 PM
Ukraine with the help of the entire west will be be getting more pounds of grain and foodstuffs than you can shake a government subsidy at.
You're right that Putin isn't one to take the L and head back, but thats the best case scenario for him right now. "We wanted to help the seperatists, the innocent seperatists, and you made the war so rough we decided it wasn't worth the human cost, you western scum"
Best case scenario.
Each day it goes on and he bombs more stuff for no reason and his enemies get bolstered by the second, he sinks further.
It's optimistic to think its the end of a mean russia, because the complexities internally are probably...complex. :P But we can hope.
Reiwa
03-01-2022, 08:31 PM
They rode that reputation until today.
Our glory will live in the memory of nations
And all generations will honor our name!
:o
Reiwa
03-01-2022, 08:41 PM
It really is a rare thing to just put yourself in the shoes of an old person, and consider human nature and self interest.
If you're some old dude who can fire nukes, I'm sure you talk a big game about caring about your grandchildren's grandchildren's future, but you might also just say "Hey I'm old, fuck it, I can do this so I'm gonna. Woops!".
Stop electing old people.
The absolute cuckoldry to think Putin was elected. :o
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 08:44 PM
The absolute cuckoldry to think Putin was elected. :o
You lobbed that one over the plate bro
I'm not even gonna type the obvious
Reiwa
03-01-2022, 08:51 PM
You lobbed that one over the plate bro
I'm not even gonna type the obvious
Try to make the comparison then, I double dog dare you. :p
Mblake1981
03-01-2022, 08:53 PM
You lobbed that one over the plate bro
I'm not even gonna type the obvious
I would comment but my nerve is lacking fortitude atm. :p
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 09:03 PM
MAN COUNTING HELICOPTERS UP TO SEVENTEEN AND THEN YELLS EXCITEDLY AS ONE IS SHOT DOWN AND THE REST POP FLARES
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Jibartik
03-01-2022, 09:08 PM
Man if I was Russian and I was looking at these videos I just be like what the fuck are they doing to us???? I want them all to die now!!!!
Botten
03-01-2022, 10:12 PM
That impeachment was a joke tho. Fake news
Biden family corruption in Ukraine real. Biden draggin the world into WW3 cuz of his shady deals in Ukraine
Trump was impeach and it was bipartisan BOTH times.
And let’s not forget your little CNN slip up and more. You fall easily for FakeNews.
Biden’s son may had worked in Ukraine but it was
1. Trump who withheld bipartisan money from congress to Ukraine.
2. It was Trump who agreed with Putin on live TV over his own CIA.
3. It was Trump who accepted a soccer ball from Putin with a microchip.
4. It was Trump who was told to use an encrypted phone in his visits to Russia but never did.
5. It was Trump and Putin that chose to speak without translators (you better believe Trump was receiving instructions).
6. Trump pulled out of the Open sky treaty as a gift to Putin.
7. Trump put sanctions on Ally steel but removed sanctions on steel from Russia because the Trump administration thought it was unfair.
8. Trump let Russia open drilling in the Arctic without competition and allowed Russia to set up military defenses against NATO in the Arctic.
9. One of Trump’s campaign managers plead Guilty to accepting money from Russia. And Trump pardoned him!!
10. Trump’s son was found to be making secret meetings with Russians and admitted that most of the Trump family money came from Russia With Real estate sold at inflated prices on purpose.
11. Trump had a security advisor who was fire due the fact that he lied whether he was in contact with a Russian Diplomat.
12. Trump has double down on praising Putin as a genius twice now while he is attacking Ukraine.
13. Trump incited a coup on the capital and was begged by his daughter to intervene not once but twice.
14. Trump’s own Secretary of State said the election were fair.
15. Trump administration had the street violently cleared for a photo-shot with him signing a Bible and holding it incorrectly.
16. Trump did something similar to watergate and fired the inspector investigating interference by Russia in our elections.
17. It was Trump was advocating to allow Russia back into the G7 after Russia was guilty of INVADING UKRAINE THE FIRST TIME.
18. It was Trump who weakened relations in NATO; crying to pull out.
19. It was Trump who never enforce bipartisan sanctions on Russia.
20. Trump pulled out of the nuclear treaty as a gift to Putin.
The list goes on and on.
And of course you want Trump the Traitor to be president again. How else is the RNC going to get money laundered to them from Russia through the entities like the NRA. You know what the best thing about these sanctions; less Russian Trolls. You can see it everywhere. And Direct TV, EU and Australia have all dropped RT news!!
BlackBellamy
03-01-2022, 10:35 PM
That would be amazing if that was your own personal list.
I threw a grown woman out of my car in Tampa a couple months ago because instead of discussing sushi vs crab she started going on with her own personal list and I was like you gonna miss out on a great dinner and she did.
I didn't care about her views it just wasn't really time for any lists. They were totally off-topic where we were going.
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 10:45 PM
I can’t wait for it to be flipped on republicans that 1. This is your fault (not true of course) and then 2. A criticism against Biden is the same as shilling for Putin
That’s a perfect transition into let’s take the republicans are terrorists angle and morph it into republicans are Russian sympathizer terrorists. Let’s suppress their free speech and their ability to criticize their leader, same as Putin does, and say it’s because THEY love Putin
Calling it now. Here’s another hot dose of irony, coming from the guy who’s admin doxxed protestors and declared emergency powers to mass arrest them. Sweet irony. The perfect gauge to how oppressed your county is, is how difficult is it for a population to criticize their leader
Remember guys, Tucker needs to be taken off the air, even though his last segment he called Putin a crazy madman over and over and warned against nuclear war. Why? Because he’s a Putin puppet of course. And we can’t have people criticizing our Dear Leader on the news now, can we?
coming from the guy who’s admin doxxed protestors and declared emergency powers to mass arrest them.
Are you talking about the Jan 6 coup attempt? Those aren't protestors, they are traitors. Should have gone to the gallows and each of them is lucky to be rotting in prison instead.
Botten
03-01-2022, 10:56 PM
That would be amazing if that was your own personal list.
I threw a grown woman out of my car in Tampa a couple months ago because instead of discussing sushi vs crab she started going on with her own personal list and I was like you gonna miss out on a great dinner and she did.
I didn't care about her views it just wasn't really time for any lists. They were totally off-topic where we were going.
It is definitely my list because on 7. I meant to say Tariffs on our allies steel…
And I am sick of hearing Trump administration wasn’t in any wars.. he was in a terrible exit war with Syria leaving 70,000 Allies to die. He was still in the Afghan war and he was selling weapons in the Yemen War. And when people say there were 13 US soldiers that died while Biden was exiting Afghan in 2020 well there were 23 US deaths in 2019; while Trump was president in Afghanistan. (https://checkyourfact.com/2021/08/29/fact-check-zero-casualties-afghanistan-donald-trump-administration/)
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 10:57 PM
Are you talking about the Jan 6 coup attempt? Those aren't protestors, they are traitors. Should have gone to the gallows and each of them is lucky to be rotting in prison instead.
No, talking about those that funded the Trucker protest in Canada being doxxed and having their identities spread all around the internet and the news opening them up to financial and physical victimization. Doxxed by whom? Oh sure not Canada’s government, no they would never
Trudeau also declared some sort of emergency power martial law not enacted in decades to be able to mass arrest them, after already giving authority to arrest even people for selling them gas or supplies
Gotta stop those crazy terrorists honking their horns and playing music while their kids jump around in bouncy houses
And now Tucker needs to be taken off the air because we’re NOT Russia, we’re better than Russia. So silence dissenters. Because we’re not Russia. Right, got it
No, talking about those that funded the Trucker protest in Canada being doxxed and having their identities spread all around the internet and the news opening them up to financial and physical victimization. Doxxed by whom? Oh sure not Canada’s government, no they would never
Trudeau also declared some sort of emergency power martial law not enacted in decades to be able to mass arrest them, after already giving authority to arrest even people for selling them gas or supplies
Gotta stop those crazy terrorists honking their horns and playing music while their kids jump around in bouncy houses
The right to assemble does not include the right to assemble in the middle of downtown, or on a major transportation thoroughfare, blocking the free flow of goods, commerce, commuters, etc. That's not protest, it's a blockade, and a crime.
Kind of like the BLM protestors who park themselves on major bay area freeways, blocking ambulances and causing 6 hour traffic jams. They may have a right to protest, but they do not have a right to blockade a freeway, and should have been thrown under the jail or allowed to end up as speed bumps.
Elizondo
03-01-2022, 11:06 PM
Trump was impeach and it was bipartisan BOTH times.
And let’s not forget your little CNN slip up and more. You fall easily for FakeNews.
Biden’s son may had worked in Ukraine but it was
1. Trump who withheld bipartisan money from congress to Ukraine.
2. It was Trump who agreed with Putin on live TV over his own CIA.
3. It was Trump who accepted a soccer ball from Putin with a microchip.
4. It was Trump who was told to use an encrypted phone in his visits to Russia but never did.
5. It was Trump and Putin that chose to speak without translators (you better believe Trump was receiving instructions).
6. Trump pulled out of the Open sky treaty as a gift to Putin.
7. Trump put sanctions on Ally steel but removed sanctions on steel from Russia because the Trump administration thought it was unfair.
8. Trump let Russia open drilling in the Arctic without competition and allowed Russia to set up military defenses against NATO in the Arctic.
9. One of Trump’s campaign managers plead Guilty to accepting money from Russia. And Trump pardoned him!!
10. Trump’s son was found to be making secret meetings with Russians and admitted that most of the Trump family money came from Russia With Real estate sold at inflated prices on purpose.
11. Trump had a security advisor who was fire due the fact that he lied whether he was in contact with a Russian Diplomat.
12. Trump has double down on praising Putin as a genius twice now while he is attacking Ukraine.
13. Trump incited a coup on the capital and was begged by his daughter to intervene not once but twice.
14. Trump’s own Secretary of State said the election were fair.
15. Trump administration had the street violently cleared for a photo-shot with him signing a Bible and holding it incorrectly.
16. Trump did something similar to watergate and fired the inspector investigating interference by Russia in our elections.
17. It was Trump was advocating to allow Russia back into the G7 after Russia was guilty of INVADING UKRAINE THE FIRST TIME.
18. It was Trump who weakened relations in NATO; crying to pull out.
19. It was Trump who never enforce bipartisan sanctions on Russia.
20. Trump pulled out of the nuclear treaty as a gift to Putin.
The list goes on and on.
And of course you want Trump the Traitor to be president again. How else is the RNC going to get money laundered to them from Russia through the entities like the NRA. You know what the best thing about these sanctions; less Russian Trolls. You can see it everywhere. And Direct TV, EU and Australia have all dropped RT news!!
lol copy/paste post from some crazy left wing blog
unsunghero
03-01-2022, 11:09 PM
The right to assemble does not include the right to assemble in the middle of downtown, or on a major transportation thoroughfare, blocking the free flow of goods, commerce, commuters, etc. That's not protest, it's a blockade, and a crime.
Kind of like the BLM protestors who park themselves on major bay area freeways, blocking ambulances and causing 6 hour traffic jams. They may have a right to protest, but they do not have a right to blockade a freeway, and should have been thrown under the jail or allowed to end up as speed bumps.
That’s fine you can arrest the ones blocking the roads. What you shouldn’t do is have your cyber security doxx their personal identities including those that funded them, then allow news agencies and big tech to spread that information around
It’s also ridiculous to act like you need to declare emergency powers previously called the WAR MEASURES act, meant for “threats to the security of Canada”
So those highways to the US border meant Canada’s entire security is threatened? Man, who woulda thought all it took was a few semi’s to threaten an entire country’s National sense of safety. Why didn’t Putin think of just parking a few trucks in Ukraine’s way? Thank God Teudeau enacted the War Measures Act to declare martial law on those car horns
Botten
03-01-2022, 11:11 PM
lol copy/paste post from some crazy left wing blog
Try again I don’t get my news from a Facebook feed like you. Why don’t you get caught in a gullible fakenews scam again. Or better yet, why don’t you post a video of a doctored Biden but post it under your family account again.
Trexller
03-01-2022, 11:12 PM
Alot of world leaders are showing their true colors these days.
Thats what happens when shit hits the fan, you find out what you are made of, and what others are made of.
The veil is gone, we see you for what you are, whoever you may be.
That’s fine you can arrest the ones blocking the roads. What you shouldn’t do is have your cyber security doxx their personal identities including those that funded them, then allow news agencies and big tech to spread that information around
It’s also ridiculous to act like you need to declare emergency powers previously called the WAR MEASURES act, meant for “threats to the security of Canada”
So those highways to the US border meant Canada’s entire security is threatened? Man, who woulda thought all it took was a few semi’s to threaten an entire country’s National sense of safety. Why didn’t Putin think of just parking a few trucks in Ukraine’s way? Thank God Teudeau enacted the War Measures Act to declare martial law on those car horns
Canada conducts a staggering amount of land-based trade across the US/CAN border. Blockading a port is an act of war, and extremely damaging. Britain was able to rule the world through the power of their navy, their ability to blockade and to interdict trade. The blockade was causing Canada, the US, and the global economy extreme damage in a time of vulnerability. Yes, a few semi's were indeed able to threaten Canada's economy, just like a few German subs were nearly able to strangle the UK to death in two world wars.
Now as to why Canada needed to use the War Measures Act to move those semi's, I really don't know. I haven't looked into it. My assumption is that they couldn't find any other law or legal route that allowed them to haul these people off expediently enough.
Gravydoo II
03-01-2022, 11:54 PM
You're not allowed to block national arteries and hurt the economy and peoples jobs because you're upset. Why didnt they just pass a law that says its ok to run down protestors with vehicles if they are blocking the road? Get a D9, bulldoze that fucking road. Whoever dies dies.
Just like how republicans say to do it in the USA. Just make it legal to kill protestors blocking the road.
Elizondo
03-02-2022, 12:11 AM
Alot of world leaders are showing their true colors these days.
Thats what happens when shit hits the fan, you find out what you are made of, and what others are made of.
The veil is gone, we see you for what you are, whoever you may be.
Bro you totally copied that from Mother Jones or something
aaezil
03-02-2022, 01:07 AM
Good video comrades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqvgy4rftJQ
Horza
03-02-2022, 01:43 AM
Bro you totally copied that from Mother Jones or something
Did Tucker just mention Mother Jones recently on his show or something?
Elizondo
03-02-2022, 02:27 AM
Did Tucker just mention Mother Jones recently on his show or something?
Dunno you the only one that watches him here
Hey I was waitin for Biden to eulogize the 13 soldiers (during his SOTU) that died cuz of incompetence in Afghanistan but it never happened
Toxigen
03-02-2022, 08:13 AM
Why were congressional lawmakers allowed to not wear masks for the state of the union, but not other employees?
How does that make any sense at all?
Libs? What say you?
Skarne
03-02-2022, 08:21 AM
Why were congressional lawmakers allowed to not wear masks for the state of the union, but not other employees?
How does that make any sense at all?
Libs? What say you?
they say YOUUU crank dat soulja boi
starkind
03-02-2022, 08:53 AM
Ya'll are being pathetic hijacking Ukraine 2 fite over personal petty shit right now.
Also the Freedom Truckers, and Tucker are big babies. That's a different thread tho really. They helped draw attention away from Ukraine tho!... and are still successfully doing so!
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 09:19 AM
Ya'll are being pathetic hijacking Ukraine 2 fite over personal petty shit right now.
It's ok there's no getting away from it. There's no barrier to entry. All you have to do is type stuff and hit enter. No one will laugh in your face, no one will shun you, no one will punch you in the face.
People are so brainwashed by their partisan media segment and so meme-infected that it's literally impossible to hold a normal conversation these days without at least one person spouting some ignorant garbage and then looking around intensely to count the supporters.
I don't mean ignorant garbage like having the wrong opinion. I can argue or listen to a wrong opinion, I don't mind at all. I mean the typical strawman garbage. Like 'look at what this person/TVshow/group did/said aha!' followed by 'anyone who listens/watches them is wrong/criminal/traitor' and it's like ok dude we're talking about granite countertop installation. Then a long pause and 'That granite comes from China slave labor I saw it on TuckerMaddow.'
starkind
03-02-2022, 09:30 AM
It doesn't matter were it came from if Americans are installing it. Nextime buy granite from Mt Rushmore.
Let's get this done, I got a 6 pack of homebrew and some shrimp 2 barbie.
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 09:33 AM
NEWSMAX: “I mean, he took a very tough stance against Russia. I'm surprised you don't think that he would have handled it better than Biden.”
BOLTON: “[Trump] barely knew where Ukraine was... It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians.” (https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1498668151827054596)
The 'pragmatic' Putin saw Trump for what he was. An erratic madman with a unique ability to passionately inflame the masses. Xi and that fat Korean fuck saw it too.
They knew when shit went down it would be a literal unpredictable coin toss and so Trump's behavior definitely deterred everyone. His ignorance of geopolitics, national borders, treaties and the 'proper' way to behave was his greatest deterrent. That's Trump's doctrine. His entire method is to be as unpredictable and chaotic as possible, the guy who changes the deal right before the handshake.
The argument is closed because the proof is in the pudding. Bolton was wrong. There is no arguing that the Ukraine was invaded twice, both times under Trump's bookends.
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 09:48 AM
The Europeans have adopted a 'war' mindset, it's interesting to see.
Western officials have described their campaign as an economic war meant to punish President Vladimir Putin and turn the country he leads into an international pariah — even if it takes years for sanctions to destroy the defenses of Russia's "fortress economy."
"We will provoke the collapse of the Russian economy," French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire told a local news channel on Tuesday.
Provoke the collapse!
"Don't forget that in human history, economic wars quite often turned into real ones," former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said Thursday in response to Le Maire's comments.
starkind
03-02-2022, 10:19 AM
If you ever needed evidence Putin sucked.
https://i.imgur.com/4v6f5Pc.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/vmA8fK2.jpeg
Even more evil than thought.. https://imgur.com/gallery/Kfk74Z4 most of the units are workering class males from Donbas and Luhansk conscripted. To produce bodies in order to make Propoganda about ethnic cleansing.
https://i.imgur.com/I0y0oMb.png
BTW that tower is down now. It took a few shots. TV tower. Had a welded steal core.
Botten
03-02-2022, 10:22 AM
Dunno you the only one that watches him here
Hey I was waitin for Biden to eulogize the 13 soldiers (during his SOTU) that died cuz of incompetence in Afghanistan but it never happened
I suspect attacking 3 purple heart recipients would have been better for you?
1. Army captain, Humayun Khan (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/khizr-khan-donald-trump-gop)
2. John McCain (https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/08/president-donald-trump-john-mccain-loser-fact-check/5741070002/)
3. Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vind*man (https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-mocks-alexander-vindman-after-firing-over-ukraine-2020-2)
"During a two-day trip to Paris in November, as part of ceremonies marking the 100th anniversary of the end of World War I, Mr. Trump scrapped a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery, near where the Battle of Belleau Wood was fought."
In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/)
Elizondo you must be so proud of Trump.
Botten
03-02-2022, 10:41 AM
So the president of Belarus just revealed Russia's war plan.
He was on TV with a map that has targets that have been destroyed and paths of troops.
It also shows that they plan to break Ukraine up into 4 territories between Russia and Belarus.
And a plan to attack the former country of Moldova.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/596409-belarus-president-stands-in-front-of-battle-map-indicating-moldova
Trexller
03-02-2022, 11:32 AM
Lukashenko and Putin, butt buddies.
Reiwa
03-02-2022, 11:39 AM
Noone:
Me:
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Trexller
03-02-2022, 11:43 AM
@Reiwa, Thats the only way to die.
Elizondo
03-02-2022, 11:51 AM
I suspect attacking 3 purple heart recipients would have been better for you?
1. Army captain, Humayun Khan (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/khizr-khan-donald-trump-gop)
2. John McCain (https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/08/president-donald-trump-john-mccain-loser-fact-check/5741070002/)
3. Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vind*man (https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-mocks-alexander-vindman-after-firing-over-ukraine-2020-2)
In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/)
Elizondo you must be so proud of Trump.
Alexander Vindman? lol talk about a political hack
The Atlantic ...
lol
Sad Botten runnin to Trump cuz he can't explain why Biden didn't mention the 13 dead soldiers that died cuz of incompetence.
starkind
03-02-2022, 11:51 AM
So the president of Belarus just revealed Russia's war plan.
He was on TV with a map that has targets that have been destroyed and paths of troops.
It also shows that they plan to break Ukraine up into 4 territories between Russia and Belarus.
And a plan to attack the former country of Moldova.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/596409-belarus-president-stands-in-front-of-battle-map-indicating-moldova
This is the actual source lol
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1573902/Lukashenko-belarus-attack-map-russia-ukraine-war-latest-vn
Anyway ya... maybe ineptitude is like a totally legal way to protest in Russia?
starkind
03-02-2022, 11:52 AM
Noone:
Me:
XK_RkH7aHb8
Panama was pretty fun too apparently.
Let's do it. Call the bluff!
Patriam1066
03-02-2022, 12:05 PM
Russia can’t even take Ukraine
Someone put Putin in the nursing home and let’s call it a day. Russia is a nation of alcoholic morons
Reiwa
03-02-2022, 12:07 PM
Alexander Vindman? lol
Botten
03-02-2022, 01:09 PM
Alexander Vindman? lol talk about a political hack
The Atlantic ...
lol
Sad Botten runnin to Trump cuz he can't explain why Biden didn't mention the 13 dead soldiers that died cuz of incompetence.
Elizondo going after a purple heart recipient who was originally born in Ukraine. You think he is a hack. Thanks for proving how despicable you are.
"Alexander Vindman was born in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, in a Jewish family.
Commissioned in 1999 as an infantry officer, Vindman received a Purple Heart medal for wounds he received from an IED attack in the Iraq War in 2004. Vindman became a foreign area officer specializing in Eurasia in 2008, and assumed the position of Director for European Affairs with the NSC in 2018. "
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 01:12 PM
HEO5zkybzBQ
https://i.imgur.com/PBALUCJ.gif
Elizondo
03-02-2022, 01:17 PM
Elizondo going after a purple heart recipient who was originally born in Ukraine. You think he is a hack. Thanks for proving how despicable you are.
"Alexander Vindman was born in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, in a Jewish family.
Commissioned in 1999 as an infantry officer, Vindman received a Purple Heart medal for wounds he received from an IED attack in the Iraq War in 2004. Vindman became a foreign area officer specializing in Eurasia in 2008, and assumed the position of Director for European Affairs with the NSC in 2018. "
He's a total partisan hack
Hope that helps
Botten
03-02-2022, 01:20 PM
He's a total partisan hack
Hope that helps
Hey you strive to be the ranks of Tippett and all others like you.
Horza
03-02-2022, 01:21 PM
Vindman doesn't even make appearances on Tucker or other shows on Fox News. Checkmate, libs.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 01:26 PM
My card will bingo if we get:
No ww3
Feeling of prosperity and peace in the USA
Strong trend towards silencing media like tucker because he almost started ww3
We'll be in the grip of the antichrist if that happens. Im sure Horza, you're down with that though, am I wrong?
So world war 3 or no, our planet is doomed.. DOOMED!
Elizondo
03-02-2022, 01:50 PM
Vindman doesn't even make appearances on Tucker or other shows on Fox News. Checkmate, libs.
He's an MSNBC regular
lol checkmate
Toxigen
03-02-2022, 02:08 PM
no spetsnaz near kyiv yet?
oh right, putin is just using his least trained troops with their oldest tech as fodder first
the real show starts when special forces show up en masse
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 02:10 PM
Dont click on this if you think knowing things makes you culpable.
This is a thread of some pro russian sentiment about the war, I think it's valuable for us to see what the other side is saying bout this since we live in a world where our internet and Russia's is different.
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1498646959049031684
Im not sure how much of russia agree's with this stuff, but I'd guess anyone who thinks America sucks and lives in a slavic country would think that most of it is true.
The first tweet is in reference to an impending strike headed towards that big TV tower thingy yesterday.
Horza
03-02-2022, 02:11 PM
no spetsnaz in ukraine yet?
oh right, putin is just using his least trained troops with their oldest tech as fodder first
Stupid libs just don't understand Putin's genius plan to intentionally lose as many battles as he possibly can.
starkind
03-02-2022, 02:13 PM
no spetsnaz near kyiv yet?
oh right, putin is just using his least trained troops with their oldest tech as fodder first
the real show starts when special forces show up en masse
Right now they are just killing off the conscripts from Donbas, Luhansk and other troubled regions. They're basically just finding ways to get all the males in the region dead. I honestly don't think they care as long as they can keep that going.
I would call it genocide, IANE tho.
starkind
03-02-2022, 02:15 PM
Dont click on this if you think knowing things makes you culpable.
This is a thread of some pro russian sentiment about the war, I think it's valuable for us to see what the other side is saying bout this since we live in a world where our internet and Russia's is different.
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1498646959049031684
Im not sure how much of russia agree's with this stuff, but I'd guess anyone who thinks America sucks and lives in a slavic country would think that most of it is true.
The first tweet is in reference to an impending strike headed towards that big TV tower thingy yesterday.
Twitter is the mark of the beast and I don't have an account.
unsunghero
03-02-2022, 02:27 PM
Yeah I dunno much about Vindman, but he seems partisan as F
If people know your political leanings and you are an official member of military or a teacher or have some non-political position of authority, you done fucked up. You can’t keep your personal beliefs to yourself and because of that, in my opinion you suck at your job in that regard. It’s not hard to keep your politics to yourself at work
starkind
03-02-2022, 02:44 PM
Vindman was highly motivated to protect Ukrainian Jews with U.S. military assets. Apparently.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 02:44 PM
I like to watch the scotus judges during the SOU sitting there like warhammer 40k characters, emotionless.
Then that one guy was getting praise last night and he was like such a little nerd about it haha
Reiwa
03-02-2022, 02:46 PM
Yeah I dunno much about Vindman, but he seems partisan as F
If people know your political leanings and you are an official member of military or a teacher or have some non-political position of authority, you done fucked up. You can’t keep your personal beliefs to yourself and because of that, in my opinion you suck at your job in that regard. It’s not hard to keep your politics to yourself at work
I forgot why I dislike him but I think that might be it. Captain Crozier was an insubordinate dingus too and it was right to dismiss him.
Gustoo
03-02-2022, 02:50 PM
Putin isn't interested in taking over Ukraine as a pile of rubble with no functional infrastructure. That isn't the top plan.
He's now in the pickle that the US felt like we were in as far as helping Ukraine.
Because the whole planet is supporting Ukraine, he can either ramp up his city decimation which is obviously not excusable with his thinly veiled "helping separatists" or he can stop. If he chooses to ramp it up every russian rich person is going to take a big hit right to the nutsack as they already have, and they are not likely to stand for it.
Not to mention the actual people of Russia not interested in being isolated north korea style.
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 02:54 PM
Saying you can't criticize someone because CREDENTIALS and MEDALS sounds a little empty doesn't it?
I would like to point out that Alexander Vindman's wounds were specifically a concussion he claims to have received. He was riding in an Mrap in the back of the convoy; he was a paper pusher attached to battalion HHC so he was just being transported. Everyone in the convoy received a purple heart that day. Vindman was back at work that night.
Some hearts are more equal than others.
EDIT: You don't get recommended for a PH. You're entitled to it if any specific criteria are met. Saying you have a headache within a quarter mile of any IED is valid.
unsunghero
03-02-2022, 02:55 PM
Putin isn't interested in taking over Ukraine as a pile of rubble with no functional infrastructure. That isn't the top plan.
He's now in the pickle that the US felt like we were in as far as helping Ukraine.
Because the whole planet is supporting Ukraine, he can either ramp up his city decimation which is obviously not excusable with his thinly veiled "helping separatists" or he can stop. If he chooses to ramp it up every russian rich person is going to take a big hit right to the nutsack as they already have, and they are not likely to stand for it.
Not to mention the actual people of Russia not interested in being isolated north korea style.
Sunk cost fallacy, going on 5,000 dead Russians, billions spent, I think it’s like 15B/day or something like that
He cannot fold, he has to all in, sadly
starkind
03-02-2022, 02:58 PM
Saying you can't criticize someone because CREDENTIALS and MEDALS sounds a little empty doesn't it?
I would like to point out that Alexander Vindman's wounds were specifically a concussion he claims to have received. He was riding in an Mrap in the back of the convoy; he was a paper pusher attached to battalion HHC so he was just being transported. Everyone in the convoy received a purple heart that day. Vindman was back at work that night.
Some hearts are more equal than others.
EDIT: You don't get recommended for a PH. You're entitled to it if any specific criteria are met. Saying you have a headache within a quarter mile of any IED is valid.
Ya. I didn't know this. Ty.
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 03:02 PM
He cannot fold, he has to all in, sadly
This is the pre-negotiation phase. He knows and everyone knows the invasion is going to fail. He's trying to grab as much territory before his units mutiny and his people revolt so he can appear generous giving some of that back and then call it mission accomplished.
Gravydoo II
03-02-2022, 03:02 PM
Saying you can't criticize someone because CREDENTIALS and MEDALS sounds a little empty doesn't it?
I would like to point out that Alexander Vindman's wounds were specifically a concussion he claims to have received. He was riding in an Mrap in the back of the convoy; he was a paper pusher attached to battalion HHC so he was just being transported. Everyone in the convoy received a purple heart that day. Vindman was back at work that night.
Some hearts are more equal than others.
EDIT: You don't get recommended for a PH. You're entitled to it if any specific criteria are met. Saying you have a headache within a quarter mile of any IED is valid.
I have a medal for fighting in the global war on terrorism. Did I "fight" anyone? Nope. Never punched one person. Fired a round. Nothing.
Gustoo
03-02-2022, 03:03 PM
If Putin falls for the sunk cost fallacy, then there will be increasing pressure from him not to be an idiot from the rest of the people around him and in his country. I am just being optimistic. I understand the All-In nature, but he must understand that when he's sactioned up the ass and all of EU and NATO support Ukraine he can't win, and he has little to gain from making it into a massive disaster.
Gustoo
03-02-2022, 03:05 PM
This is the pre-negotiation phase. He knows and everyone knows the invasion is going to fail. He's trying to grab as much territory before his units mutiny and his people revolt so he can appear generous giving some of that back and then call it mission accomplished.
That's his best case scenario at this point.
However I feel the international community is going to throw the book at Russian Federation and he's going to look like trash no matter what.
I'm curious if Russian Fed gets to keep the recently stolen Crimean peninsula
unsunghero
03-02-2022, 03:08 PM
Coincidentally enough, just read this in a news article:
“ In an interview on the Yahoo News “Skullduggery” podcast, Daniel Hoffman — for years one of the CIA’s top experts on Russia — said the Russian president is “not the Vladimir Putin I was tracking back in the day at the CIA. He’s a different guy.” He says that Putin has dug himself into such a deep hole with the Ukraine invasion that he now no longer believes he has any choice but to level the country”
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 03:10 PM
Im not sure how much of russia agree's with this stuff, but I'd guess anyone who thinks America sucks and lives in a slavic country would think that most of it is true.
.
The vast majority of the Russian people support Putin. This is because most of them get their news only from official TV. I forget what the exact figure was but it's like 70%. The rest, mostly younger people have the internet and other means of getting info and they see it. Those are the people getting arrested by the Literal Jackbooted Gestapo in public areas in Russia for holding up signs.
Here, I want to show you what the internal news is for Russians:
TODAY:
The Russian Defense Ministry said that Russian troops are not targeting Ukrainian cities, but are incapacitating Ukrainian military infrastructure, therefore there are no threats to the civilian population.
THREE DAYS AGO:
Russian Defense Ministry reassured that Russian troops are not targeting Ukrainian cities, but are limited to surgically striking and incapacitating Ukrainian military infrastructure. There are no threats whatsoever to the civilian population.
The surrendered Ukrainian servicemen confirm that Kiev planned a large-scale offensive in Donbass, Deputy Head of the People’s Militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) Eduard Basurin said in a live broadcast on the Rossiya-24 TV Channel on Monday.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 03:12 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/protest_/comments/t56q3i/armed_forces_of_ukraine_firing_from_a_residential/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Artilery being fired from civilian areas. This was said to be why Palestine civilians were being killed by our leadership 6 months ago.
Ill give horza one thing, he's consistent, he was saying this was an OK practice by the Palestinians then too.
The language worked to convince american majority that it was ok to bomb civilians then, so I am sure in Russia the sentiment cant be too different.
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 03:13 PM
Official Russian Propaganda Link:
https://www.rt.com/sport/551060-russian-athletes-sports-genocide/
https://i.imgur.com/XxsXpeP.jpg
Genocide, the SPORT OF KINGS!
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 03:30 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/protest_/comments/t56q3i/armed_forces_of_ukraine_firing_from_a_residential/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Ill give horza one thing, he's consistent, he was saying this was an OK practice by the Palestinians then too.
Oh yeah perfectly valid. Urban terrain is best defensive terrain. Hard to spot from the air or a distance and the buildings shield you from counter-battery fire as you reposition. Force preservation and effective delivery of firepower take priority over civilians. It's not a matter of generating sentiment by provoking a response against civilian areas, it's just that if you put your artillery outside in the open fields the Russian jets will blow them up.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 03:32 PM
Oh yeah perfectly valid. Urban terrain is best defensive terrain. Hard to spot from the air or a distance and the buildings shield you from counter-battery fire as you reposition. Force preservation and effective delivery of firepower take priority over civilians. It's not a matter of generating sentiment by provoking a response against civilian areas, it's just that if you put your artillery outside in the open fields the Russian jets will blow them up.
https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/biden-admin-ignores-law-to-sanction-hamas-and-hezbollah-for-civilian-shield-use-lawmakers-say/
The beast is also consistent.
Trexller
03-02-2022, 03:59 PM
standing out in the open with your artillery guns is just dumb on any occasion, unless you maintain air superiority in a large radius. regardless of who does it, its a sound military strategy to hide your assets in urban areas.
people need to be careful and think twice when talking about what a "war crime" is or isn't.
Trying to apply rules to war is a politician's arm chair game, the fact of the matter is that war itself is the breakdown and failure of all rules to begin with.
In Putin's case, no matter what he does, he isn't coming back from this one way or the other. Should he manage to take all of Ukraine, he still isn't going to have a friend left in the world.
The chinese are gonna stand there and sell stuff to russia, in the hopes that they will have 1 person in the world who agrees with their imperialistic moves in the future. For now, they aren't stupid, and they play the looonngg game. the 100 year game. If it comes out that chinese shells and bullets are in ukraine, thats gonna result in some other major problems, and they know it.
Never assume your enemy is stupid or insane, even if they really are.
Putin may or may not win the Ukrainian war, but he absolutely will not win the ideological war. He has to know this.
So, its gonna get alot worse before it gets better, Alot worse.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 04:03 PM
I am dubious of folks that shoot from civilian locations.
Then say the other side is killing civilians.
But biden isnt, maybe he smarter than me.
Maybe he's Maybelline (satan)
Horza
03-02-2022, 04:05 PM
You better take Russian propaganda seriously then like a good Republican, Jib.
Gravydoo II
03-02-2022, 04:09 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/protest_/comments/t56q3i/armed_forces_of_ukraine_firing_from_a_residential/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Artilery being fired from civilian areas. This was said to be why Palestine civilians were being killed by our leadership 6 months ago.
Ill give horza one thing, he's consistent, he was saying this was an OK practice by the Palestinians then too.
The language worked to convince american majority that it was ok to bomb civilians then, so I am sure in Russia the sentiment cant be too different.
Pretty sure when people invade you're country using cluster munition and vacuum bombs you're allowed to use any means you want to defend your country.
Russia is targeting schools with vacuum bombs.
Russian forces have been accused of using the widely banned and dangerous weapons known as vacuum bombs that "obliterate" their victims.
Amnesty International accused Russia of using vacuum bombs, or thermobaric weapons, to attack a preschool in northeastern Ukraine while civilians took shelter inside. CNN reported that one of its teams had spotted a Russian thermobaric multiple rocket launcher near the Ukrainian border early on Saturday afternoon.
Oksana Markarova, Ukraine's ambassador to the United States, told reporters after meeting with members of the U.S. Congress on Monday that Russia had used a thermobaric weapon.
"They used the vacuum bomb today," Markarova said after a meeting with lawmakers. "The devastation that Russia is trying to inflict on Ukraine is large."
Doh..
So you're saying russia is allowed to do this because one country is slowly destroying another one in the middle east?? You're just a sick evil person. You want kids to die so you can blame everyone else. Isnt russia the shining christian light of the world these days?? Not very christian to invade your neighbor..
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 04:14 PM
k
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 04:21 PM
say what you will about Russians, they drive better than you (because they're used to getting their ass kicked by the guy behind them if they dont lol)
https://www.reddit.com/r/protest_/comments/t584x0/no_matter_if_you_are_invading_a_country_follow/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Trexller
03-02-2022, 04:23 PM
say what you will about Russians, they drive better than you (because they're used to getting their ass kicked by the guy behind them if they dont lol)
https://www.reddit.com/r/protest_/comments/t584x0/no_matter_if_you_are_invading_a_country_follow/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
they are adhering to local traffic laws as they invade?
this is the weirdest invasion ever.
starkind
03-02-2022, 04:25 PM
say what you will about Russians, they drive better than you (because they're used to getting their ass kicked by the guy behind them if they dont lol)
https://www.reddit.com/r/protest_/comments/t584x0/no_matter_if_you_are_invading_a_country_follow/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Ya I saw this. I'm not pro autocracy really..adversity just makes people better at stuff. Americans are plebes when it comes to driving.
Gravydoo II
03-02-2022, 04:32 PM
You'd drive much better if you faced 10 years in the zone for speeding.
starkind
03-02-2022, 04:36 PM
You'd drive much better if you faced 10 years in the zone for speeding.
So conflicted RN
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Jimjam
03-02-2022, 04:37 PM
Ya I saw this. I'm not pro autocracy really..adversity just makes people better at stuff. Americans are plebes when it comes to driving.
It’s them huge wide lanes and grid roads with no bends.
Gravydoo II
03-02-2022, 04:39 PM
I just realized lauren beobert and marjery taylor greene post here.
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 04:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/EE67nkW.png
cd288
03-02-2022, 05:24 PM
Just curious on your thoughts here. Do you think it's possible that Ukraine is able to exhaust Russia into retreat? I have heard from some sources, albeit unreliable, that Putin only has a couple weeks before his coffers run out. Morale seems to be low amongst the Russian populace, and likely equally so amongst the Russian rank and file.
Added to all this, Europe and the USA are sending weaponry and sanctioning the hell out of Russia.
Lastly, Putin may have vastly underestimated the Ukrainian's patriotism. Seeing the president, former president, parliament, the Klitchko brothers, and hundreds of thousands more willing to stay and fight is nothing short of heroic.
Ukraine wont be receiving Putin's army with open arms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfkzOwoDB2A
How do you feel about your hero Trump praising Putin
Patriam1066
03-02-2022, 05:25 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/protest_/comments/t56q3i/armed_forces_of_ukraine_firing_from_a_residential/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Artilery being fired from civilian areas. This was said to be why Palestine civilians were being killed by our leadership 6 months ago.
Ill give horza one thing, he's consistent, he was saying this was an OK practice by the Palestinians then too.
The language worked to convince american majority that it was ok to bomb civilians then, so I am sure in Russia the sentiment cant be too different.
They can’t fire from civilian areas when they’re being invaded? Man dude you’re really on the Russian Koolaid, what gives ?
Elizondo
03-02-2022, 05:43 PM
How do you feel about your hero Trump praising Putin
Pudding outplayed Biden
Cope and Seethe
starkind
03-02-2022, 05:58 PM
Every area was a "civil" area until it got invaded.
I guarantee the rubble and 100% bombed out cities win the war for Ukraine.
At this point Putin knows he isn't getting what he wants. So no one gets it. Human lives be damned in his eyes.
That's a terrible mark to bear on his soul for a supposedly religious man.
https://i.imgur.com/49m4GQI.png
The # of armed and supplied Babushka is all that matters.
Pretty sure Russia has zero enlisted babushka. Food for thought. These ladies have my reverence.
Horza
03-02-2022, 06:13 PM
They can’t fire from civilian areas when they’re being invaded? Man dude you’re really on the Russian Koolaid, what gives ?
https://i.imgur.com/cBoz8o2.jpg
unsunghero
03-02-2022, 06:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cBoz8o2.jpg
starkind
03-02-2022, 06:27 PM
If anything God is planning for a win in UK, USA, and Russia. He can't make you do the right things tho. He does plan. I'll admit because he gave us free will he gave away some of his omnipotence. /\
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 06:29 PM
Horza/gravy you guys are just not smart enough to understand me.
So you get mad at me.
Patriam1066
03-02-2022, 06:43 PM
You’d be surprised how many people on both sides are for at least 2/3s of those things. I don’t think you’re understanding why some people didn’t like trump. I think democrats don’t understand budgets and as such I have a passionate disgust for them. Anyone who doesn’t live within their means is taking advantage of someone else, period. Doesn’t matter dude, you have to hand over power when your time is up. Societies that don’t understand that are like Iran, China, and Russia. Doesn’t matter. My boy Romney gonna smoke trump in 2024 and lead a Mormon crusade on Moscow
God bless america
Patriam1066
03-02-2022, 06:47 PM
Meant to quote this in previous post
starkind
03-02-2022, 06:57 PM
Same country that celebrates motorsports for running from the cops, bad at driving. Starkind you will sometimes pull the dumbest quotes out of the air. If you said there are a lot of bad drivers in America then I would agree, some view a vehicle as nothing more than a kitchen appliance and it shows.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3370319&postcount=8
You're absolutely right. Thank you. I did not think it through.
America has the best drivers in the world!
BlackBellamy
03-02-2022, 07:07 PM
https://i.imgur.com/49m4GQI.png
The # of armed and supplied Babushka is all that matters.
Pretty sure Russia has zero enlisted babushka. Food for thought. These ladies have my reverence.
Hey, what is that, an MP5A2? They don't hand those out, must have been in the family already, probably bought from a German border guard my guess.
Botten
03-02-2022, 07:12 PM
Pudding outplayed Biden
Cope and Seethe
Putin definitely played Trump like a fiddle and got everything he wanted.
The only thing Putin wants now is his puppet (Trump) back in the White House
Trumpie the Traitor.
.
cd288
03-02-2022, 07:15 PM
Pudding outplayed Biden
Cope and Seethe
I’m not a democrat you idiot lol
starkind
03-02-2022, 07:40 PM
Hey, what is that, an MP5A2? They don't hand those out, must have been in the family already, probably bought from a German border guard my guess.
It's a beautiful gun indeed.
https://i.imgur.com/EE67nkW.png
Stupid cunt representatives of a stupid cunt political movement, uniting all of America's stupid cunts under one, huge, smelly, festering stupid cunt tent.
Also the one on the right is ugly as sin.
New_Guy
03-02-2022, 07:57 PM
I’m not a democrat you idiot lol
He can't argue his points in any form of rational way so he just deflects to Republican talking points of bashing other candidates as if that somehow excuses all the bad behavior in those he supports.
It's typical in those who have next to an animal level intellect who cannot use rational thought to critically think.
Sadly Whataboutism only works on those who have lower than an 85 IQ like Downie.
starkind
03-02-2022, 08:14 PM
New Guy, I see you're attempting to be factual. We got a lot of work to do tho.
/\
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 09:01 PM
Stupid cunt representatives of a stupid cunt political movement, uniting all of America's stupid cunts under one, huge, smelly, festering stupid cunt tent.
Also the one on the right is ugly as sin.
Be careful ugly stupid cunts make up the majority of america! We could be in trouble :o
Chortles Snortles
03-02-2022, 09:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/dW2yWB8.jpg
unsunghero
03-02-2022, 09:36 PM
^
Lol
Patriam1066
03-02-2022, 09:37 PM
Lol’d
starkind
03-02-2022, 09:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/JuY0Wdb.jpeg
Elizondo
03-02-2022, 09:57 PM
I’m not a democrat you idiot lol
Dems crackin and distancing themselves from Biden
lol
FYI Same_Guy is Botten
Jibartik
03-02-2022, 10:00 PM
not a democrat lol that means you're a trumper!
Trexller
03-02-2022, 10:07 PM
lol
FYI Same_Guy is Botten
they sound exactly alike
Elizondo
03-02-2022, 10:16 PM
they sound exactly alike
They even edit posts as frequently
It's so obvious
Whatever, he'll keep pretending he's not, but he is. It's all just theater.
Ooloo
03-02-2022, 10:20 PM
He can't argue his points in any form of rational way so he just deflects to Republican talking points of bashing other candidates as if that somehow excuses all the bad behavior in those he supports.
It's typical in those who have next to an animal level intellect who cannot use rational thought to critically think.
Sadly Whataboutism only works on those who have lower than an 85 IQ like Downie.
This whole post is you just being irrational and slinging insults with zero content though.
Also why don't you use your next-level rational thought to critically-think about why the term "whataboutism" is so retarded and meaningless.
"Stop pointing out the inconsistent, selective and/or naval-gazing way that I choose to care about things! That's just some whataboutism!"
Topgunben
03-02-2022, 10:38 PM
How do you feel about your hero Trump praising Putin
Given that he wasn't saying that his intentions were admirable, just that his strategy was smart, I see nothing wrong with it.
Plenty of historians praise Stalin's will to save Russia from German invasion, while at the same time denounce the atrocities that came with it.
When Maldoon is ambushed by a Raptor in Jurassic Park, he praises the Raptor, saying "Clever Girl". Are you incapable of seeing how Maldoon can appreciate the Raptors skills, while at the same time, hating the raptor for wanting to destroy him?
Furthermore, you, Horza, Tunabitch and Hobart are completely obsessed with "GOTCHA" statements. To the point where no one engages with you because rather than trying to add to the conversation, you only seek to start shit. Youll notice that my OP didnt even mention Trump or Biden or Obama, or Democrats or Republicans. You seem to be the one obsessed with bringing Trump up, probably because Biden has been such an utter failure as president and you have to revert back to TDS in order to make yourself feel better. I honestly dont give a shit though, Biden is president, and I am hoping for the best with him for the sake of our nation.
unsunghero
03-02-2022, 10:45 PM
Tucker just brought up an interesting point. If our intentions are to punish Russia, and we need to punish them economically enough to where their people overthrow Putin, that’s fine
But what happens next? Who replaces Putin, someone better, or someone worse? How will Russia feel about America and NATO after we punish Russia as hard as we can economically?
Now put a few possible realities together: 1. A hatred of America and NATO by Russia for ruining their economy + 2. A brand new leader possibly out to prove something + 3. 1,000+ nuclear warheads
….food for thought
starkind
03-02-2022, 10:49 PM
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Mblake1981
03-02-2022, 11:00 PM
Tucker just brought up an interesting point. If our intentions are to punish Russia, and we need to punish them economically enough to where their people overthrow Putin, that’s fine
Should have thought of this prior.
But what happens next? Who replaces Putin, someone better, or someone worse? How will Russia feel about America and NATO after we punish Russia as hard as we can economically?
Should have your ducks in a row.
Now put a few possible realities together: 1. A hatred of America and NATO by Russia for ruining their economy + 2. A brand new leader possibly out to prove something + 3. 1,000+ nuclear warheads
….food for thought
I don't give a shit. Drop em or tuck tail because there are no other moves in this corner. Lot of dumbass whores. :mad:
starkind
03-02-2022, 11:08 PM
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Gravydoo II
03-02-2022, 11:11 PM
Point to all the people against borders.
Point to all the people against guns and "armed citizens".
Point to all the people against supporting america.
Its easy to make shit up.
Right wingers hate black peop oh wait.. thats true.
Right wingers hate mex- oh damnit..
Right wingers hate the average american and would pick a con-man over anyone else in the entire country to be pres-oh wait..
damnit this is harder than i thought it would be.
Ooloo
03-02-2022, 11:16 PM
"It's easy to make shit up." and then gravy posts a list of made-up shit. And how!
Topgunben
03-02-2022, 11:18 PM
Point to all the people against borders.
Point to all the people against guns and "armed citizens".
Point to all the people against supporting america.
Its easy to make shit up.
Right wingers hate black peop oh wait.. thats true.
Right wingers hate mex- oh damnit..
Right wingers hate the average american and would pick a con-man over anyone else in the entire country to be pres-oh wait..
damnit this is harder than i thought it would be.
Trump got a third of the Latino vote. Are all those people racist?
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