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Mblake1981
03-11-2022, 06:31 PM
There’s no such thing as bourbon not from Kentucky

Seek Christ Virginia distilleries

The limestone.

Would buy again though.

Patriam1066
03-11-2022, 06:34 PM
I sadly cannot even drink scotch anymore. Getting old sucks

Horza
03-11-2022, 06:46 PM
You. Worship. Satan.

devil worshiping, shape shifting Democrats?!

Jibartik
03-11-2022, 06:55 PM
This is amazing if true and if true I hope to find out it worked at least once.

https://twitter.com/nolanwpeterson/status/1502277184102277120?s=20&t=WGnTB-Hsyl4rEhbrx1SvLw

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense just published a promotional video offering each Russian pilot a reward if they defect to #Ukraine with their aircraft.

USD 1 million per aircraft and USD 500,000 per helicopter.

Jibartik
03-11-2022, 06:59 PM
devil worshiping, shape shifting Democrats?!

Political shape shifting? Yes. That much I would accuse them of.

Elizondo
03-11-2022, 07:05 PM
devil worshiping, shape shifting Democrats?!

smE4_jXsABs

Horza
03-11-2022, 07:06 PM
Political shape shifting? Yes. That much I would accuse them of.

No, all Biden voters are literally coldblooded reptilians.

starkind
03-11-2022, 07:24 PM
Can we please shadow ban horza for a little while?

Botten
03-11-2022, 08:44 PM
So after Putin invaded Ukraine what do you think the most unAmerican thing could a Republican Senator do?

You might think by being a part of the personal tours or if they played a part in the planning of the January 6th insurrection!

But what about visiting Russia during the 4th of July as these 8 Republican Senator did?

Richard Shelby (AL)
Steve Daines (MT)
John Hoeven (ND)
Ron Johnson (WI)
John Kennedy (LA)
Jerry Moran (KS)
John Thune (SD)
Kay Granger (TX)

Have we come to be this complacent that this is a norm expected of Republicans….But if Obama using a mustard not prorated by Foxnews viewers…. Well that is a Country wide Scandal!!!!

Jibartik
03-11-2022, 08:48 PM
lmao this is the shit a busher would say about someone who was in the middle east

Jibartik
03-11-2022, 08:50 PM
Look at the top person on this list holy shit the democrats are scum.

https://i.imgur.com/pIlglhO.png

Botten
03-11-2022, 08:56 PM
lmao this is the shit a busher would say about someone who was in the middle east

Yeah probably just to order Russian Girl Scout cookies to help the families of the soldier who had just invaded Ukraine. ‘Merica holiday in Russia!

Jibartik
03-11-2022, 09:00 PM
The democrats are xeanphobic and globalists at the same time this book is terrible.

Gustoo
03-11-2022, 09:25 PM
smE4_jXsABs

haha love this

Gustoo
03-11-2022, 09:27 PM
Look at the top person on this list holy shit the democrats are scum.

https://i.imgur.com/pIlglhO.png

These are the only people any common american should have a problem with.

Not to dismantle the system, but to -never- vote "strategically" again for scum. Vote no on democrats and republicans. None of them have any concern for you other than how you can enable them to make more money, the only god they serve.

Patriam1066
03-11-2022, 11:51 PM
People in gov should not have access to any stocks other than passively traded, broad index funds

Otherwise there is incentive for corruption / skepticism towards the system. I have been buying all commodities stocks since Jan 2021 just because anyone with money knew trump giving plebs billions in dimebag money was a terrible idea. Even if these people weren’t privy to insider information, it still stinks to high heaven

Occidental petroleum up BIGLY since pandemic tanking. YUUUUUGE gains, I could buy / sell Jib into white slavery!

Jibartik
03-11-2022, 11:53 PM
After DWS pegged every progressive they promoted her and now she's literally war profiteering the democrats have more than enough to worry about before they'd ever be capable of convincing these megalomaniacs they vote for to prevent them from getting rich.

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 12:22 AM
Are certain excesses permitted on a war footing?

Asking for a friend.

https://i.imgur.com/8nqmfnl.jpg

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 12:43 AM
Look at the top person on this list holy shit the democrats are scum.

https://i.imgur.com/pIlglhO.png

I think there's no way to pass a law against it because you'd have to make it apply to all GS scale workers and that's crazy.

The minority is heavily protected from the majority in this country of cannibals. :p

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 01:58 AM
So youtube is removing state media from russia from youtube.

Because americans are too stupid to know things.

Im not saying the state media is good (only stupid horza & biscuts would think that's what I was saying)

But what I am saying is i was watching it to see how they were trying to spin this war in russia, and how to see how insane their lies are. Ducks?!

But now I cant see that, I just have to take somene's word for whatever they say.

It's honestly sad to me that people cant see how we've reached the end of this experiment.

If we as a culture dont even believe we can handle free information anymore then it's time to pack the f up.

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 01:58 AM
So youtube is removing state media from russia from youtube.

Because americans are too stupid to know things.

Im not saying the state media is good (only stupid horza & biscuts would think that's what I was saying)

But what I am saying is i was watching it to see how they were trying to spin this war in russia, and how to see how insane their lies are. Ducks?!

But now I cant see that, I just have to take somene's word for whatever they say.

It's honestly sad to me that people cant see how we've reached the end of this experiment.

If we dont believe we can handle free information anymore then it's time to pack the f up.

Trexller
03-12-2022, 02:07 AM
russian state media doesn't have an english website?

not gonna google that, i don't wanna eat a drone strike tonight.

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 02:11 AM
Im sure if my highschool history teacher was here he'd tell me that we've silenced and unsilenced media during wartimes many times before, I wonder if thats true.

Jimjam
03-12-2022, 02:15 AM
*free disinformation

Gustoo
03-12-2022, 02:41 AM
I’m with trexler I’m not trying to get on the predator drones queue lol

Gustoo
03-12-2022, 02:44 AM
I’m with trexler I’m not trying to get on the predator drones queue lol

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 02:46 AM
you can say it 50 times we're all still gonna die by predator drones.

Trexller
03-12-2022, 04:17 AM
what gives with the forum? half the time when i post i get the anti-ddos message, "this forum requires you to wait 30 seconds between posts" then if i reload page it redirects me back to page 1 of the thread.

i don't have an auto clicker mouse or shit like that

can we get some maintenance up in here?

starkind
03-12-2022, 05:25 AM
I’m with trexler I’m not trying to get on the predator drones queue lol

I’m with trexler I’m not trying to get on the predator drones queue lol

starkind
03-12-2022, 05:29 AM
So youtube is removing state media from russia from youtube.

Because americans are too stupid to know things.

Im not saying the state media is good (only stupid horza & biscuts would think that's what I was saying)

But what I am saying is i was watching it to see how they were trying to spin this war in russia, and how to see how insane their lies are. Ducks?!

But now I cant see that, I just have to take somene's word for whatever they say.

It's honestly sad to me that people cant see how we've reached the end of this experiment.

If we dont believe we can handle free information anymore then it's time to pack the f up.

*you are here*

Corporate fascist communism. Mash those words toghether into one word (i don't know it yet) and downgrade the citizens to chattle. Give corporations much stronger rights.

*you are here*

BlackBellamy
03-12-2022, 09:07 AM
Because americans are too stupid to know things.

Propaganda Machine: The US and Ukraine are developing biological weapons and are planning to attack Russia.

This forum: The US and Ukraine are developing biological weapons and are planning to attack Russia!

Propaganda Machine: If you go to Russia on July 4th you are an American Traitor!

This forum: If you go to Russia on July 4th you are an American Traitor!

Knowledge
03-12-2022, 09:24 AM
Id send all of NATO into Ukraine and call Putin on his nuke bluff

BlackBellamy
03-12-2022, 09:42 AM
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-11


Russian ground forces attempting to encircle and take Kyiv began another pause to resupply and refit combat units on March 11 after failed attacks March 8-10.

Russian forces also appear to be largely stalemated around Kharkiv.

Russian advances from Crimea toward Mykolayiv and Zaporizhya and in the east around Donetsk and Luhansk made no progress in the last 24 hours

Russian forces in the south face growing morale and supply issues.

Russian aircraft likely conducted an attempted false-flag attack on Belarusian territory on March 11 in an effort to draw Belarus into the war.

The Kremlin announced plans to deploy foreign fighters, including up to 16,000 Syrian fighters, to Ukraine.


I looked at the map https://liveuamap.com/ and it's the same for the past several days. No progress, no significant advance anywhere.

The Byelorussian army is 10 times worse than the Russian army in every single way. Syrian fighters? The guys who hold the AK above their heads and hope Allah guides the bullet, those guys? Jeez I hope they do a better job then Kadyrov's fearless Chechens, now mostly deceased. Haha I'm kidding those guys are terrible.

BlackBellamy
03-12-2022, 09:59 AM
Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it's important for him to give me space."

Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…"

Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

Please note that Medvedev was the President of Russia at the time. He didn't need to transmit this information to Vladimir because he did not work for Vladimir. Except he did.

Experts and military officials agree that the Trump administration’s decision to provide the Javelin, a shoulder-mounted precision missile system that can take out tanks and other armored vehicles, to Ukraine has been a significant contribution to the country’s security.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/03/far-from-the-front-lines-javelin-missiles-go-unused-in-ukraine/

Article is written in 2019. It's supposed to highlight how all those Javelins Trump gave them are sitting unused which is a bad thing according to the author. I failed to find a follow up to this article where the authors praise the Trump administration for making sure the Ukrainians kept the Javelins for when they really needed them and not pissing them all away in the Donetsk playing bunker ping-pong.

“You see a little bit of a bounce in the step of a Ukrainian soldier when he or she has had the opportunity to embrace this system that allows them to better defend their turf,

Obama: Makes flexible deals with tyrants.

Trump: Puts a little pep in your step!

It must be so hard to know the guy you like was stupid and naive and failed to understand his opponents and got fucking taken to the bank by history. Must be harder to acknowledge the guy you hate did everything right when it came to standing up to the Russians. The cognitive dissonance around the Trump-Russia story is awesome, something to behold.

Gravydoo II
03-12-2022, 10:19 AM
Come on lets hear it. Tell us about the BIOWEAPONS!!!! BIOWEAPONS!!!! labs funded by the usa in ukraine.. LOL

Knowledge
03-12-2022, 10:24 AM
USA has biochemical labs in Ukraine and Wuhan China. NWO.

Botten
03-12-2022, 10:54 AM
Please note that Medvedev was the President of Russia at the time. He didn't need to transmit this information to Vladimir because he did not work for Vladimir. Except he did.



https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/03/far-from-the-front-lines-javelin-missiles-go-unused-in-ukraine/

Article is written in 2019. It's supposed to highlight how all those Javelins Trump gave them are sitting unused which is a bad thing according to the author. I failed to find a follow up to this article where the authors praise the Trump administration for making sure the Ukrainians kept the Javelins for when they really needed them and not pissing them all away in the Donetsk playing bunker ping-pong.


Obama: Makes flexible deals with tyrants.

Trump: Puts a little pep in your step!

It must be so hard to know the guy you like was stupid and naive and failed to understand his opponents and got fucking taken to the bank by history. Must be harder to acknowledge the guy you hate did everything right when it came to standing up to the Russians. The cognitive dissonance around the Trump-Russia story is awesome, something to behold.

You like manipulating what you want to hear that is for sure.

“Since Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014, the US has provided billions in military assistance to Ukraine. This has included military equipment like Javelin anti-tank missiles, night vision goggles, small arms and ammunition, and patrol boats. The US has also trained Ukrainian forces.” (https://news.yahoo.com/biden-sending-stinger-missiles-ukraine-170739877.html)

This was provided by Congress. And it was Trump who extort the money also provided by congress for 50+ days to Ukraine.

And Before the first Ukraine invasion the talk to Obama was a plea since earlier Russia stated they felt there was nothing left they could do because they felt threatened by all sides while had missiles on there border left over from the Cold War with the Soviet Union.

Primarily this: “Kremlin began calling out perceived INF violations—including the MK 41 launchers creeping closer to Russia’s borders.” (https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/12/putin-russia-us-missile-defense-nato-ukraine/)

Russia wanted those missiles gone but NATO has had them there since the Cold War. Obama in his second term was talking about easing Russia’s concerns especially with the Cold War over.

But that chance with Obama (who won his second term despite that open mic statement) was gone after Russia invaded Ukraine the first time.

And those MISSILES were later taken down by the traitor Trump administration as a gift to Putin. (https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/12/putin-russia-us-missile-defense-nato-ukraine/) (Even thou Russia had already invade Ukraine and congress was TRYING to give support to Ukraine.)

You see Trump was Putin’s puppet. And your Trump is a traitor.

starkind
03-12-2022, 11:19 AM
Isreal didn't tell anyone to surrender. GG antisemitic left. (https://www.axios.com/russia-war-israel-bennett-zelensky-told-to-surrender-d5c53a0b-5940-4b09-85e4-ede244a2f5a1.html)

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 11:35 AM
Isreal didn't tell anyone to surrender. GG antisemitic left. (https://www.axios.com/russia-war-israel-bennett-zelensky-told-to-surrender-d5c53a0b-5940-4b09-85e4-ede244a2f5a1.html)

What was the offer?

starkind
03-12-2022, 11:38 AM
What was the offer?

Isreal clarified they are making no recommendations during any negotiations.

I don't know the deets. It was a private phonecall. I did see the false claim spammed all over left leaning social media last night.

It's an easy reading Axios article..

I'm tired of the left giving Isreal shit. The left is clueless when it comes to Isreal... if two Palestinians kill eachother and the Israeli military stop a massacre the left flips out and screams war crimes.

I'm pretty sure the left is mostly just antireligion. I'm not talking about being secular. Secular is good... so much ridiculous bullshit towards religious beliefs on the left, and religious people. Unless it's in vogue to support an "oppressed group". The left is clearly not uniform in support of people or their religious freedom however.

Does that mean I'm ok with government overreach.. and the right eroding 1st amendment rights because "gay"... no..


Yall are being fucking dipshits.

Starkind is mad and feeling wrathful today.

Hope Ukraine wins the war and conquers the world.

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 11:54 AM
I'm bored of Ukraine

It's just wag the dog anyways. Biden so terrible he wants folks to go chase the shiny in Ukraine to distract them from their misery at home

Wharfrat
03-12-2022, 12:14 PM
Id send all of NATO into Ukraine and call Putin on his nuke bluff

You probably bet on low IQ football players also.

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 12:18 PM
Secular is good...

そうですか?

Error non habet ius, ghost ma'am.

Gravydoo II
03-12-2022, 12:23 PM
What is a "biochemical" and why is it bad, exactly???

Tell us, science people. Explain these "biolabs" OMG scary sounding... because doing biology research should be done in a very dirty and open place! Not in a lab!

Just retarded. When you dont understand anything, you'll fall for anything. Biochemicals??? biolab?? OMG BIO!!! BIO!!

biological agents are called that.. they dont use salmonella in war.. so fucking retarded..

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 12:30 PM
What is a "biochemical" and why is it bad, exactly???

Tell us, science people. Explain these "biolabs" OMG scary sounding... because doing biology research should be done in a very dirty and open place! Not in a lab!

Just retarded. When you dont understand anything, you'll fall for anything. Biochemicals??? biolab?? OMG BIO!!! BIO!!

biological agents are called that.. they dont use salmonella in war.. so fucking retarded..

why would the US be researchin diarrhea in Ukraine

starkind
03-12-2022, 12:40 PM
Well. We do everywhere remember my links to the weird bat research we where doing in like southeast Asian countries whos names I can't remember? That was like 80s, 90s..

Also who says it had to actually be biochemicals. They could have a storeroom full of bleech and a microscope... and have spent all of their funds elsewhere..

Do u think these two mf'rs are "real"?

https://www.businessinsider.com/grimes-says-elon-musk-sometimes-lives-below-the-poverty-line-2022-3

Ya'll mf'rs are fucked. Ur brains are wired. Enjoy the show.

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 12:42 PM
lol “ why was inventing Covid bad?!?”

lol

starkind
03-12-2022, 12:43 PM
そうですか?

Error non habet ius, ghost ma'am.

That is a long way to say "really?"...good job..

No government shall protect nor persecute any religion. That's not a proper civilized function for government. Between that and protectionism allowing for the exploitation of ordinary people you have the basically two main reasons for collapsing society.

Get rid of the security guards protecting the power elites lets bring them back down to earth.

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 12:46 PM
That is a long way to say "really?"...good job..

No government shall protect nor persecute any religion. That's not a proper civilized function for government. Between that and protectionism allowing for the exploitation of ordinary people you have the basically two main reasons for collapsing society.

Get rid of the security guards protecting the power elites lets bring them back down to earth.

Guapo gwaipo! 🥰

starkind
03-12-2022, 12:54 PM
Guapo gwaipo! 🥰

Thanks. Feeling a bit better 🍷😎🍦

unsunghero
03-12-2022, 02:15 PM
What is a "biochemical" and why is it bad, exactly???

Tell us, science people. Explain these "biolabs" OMG scary sounding... because doing biology research should be done in a very dirty and open place! Not in a lab!

Just retarded. When you dont understand anything, you'll fall for anything. Biochemicals??? biolab?? OMG BIO!!! BIO!!

biological agents are called that.. they dont use salmonella in war.. so fucking retarded..

My guess is that in order to learn how to protect against and treat infectious diseases and viruses, we have to have samples of those agents to test on. Sometimes we might tinker with those samples, or maybe they do it to themselves

And while a lab is the best possible setting to do such experiments, sometimes something gets out. And if Russia, who has been known to use chemical weapons in the past, gets hold of some sample from a lab, maybe it’s not getting out accidentally

Just my guess. But the US official who said they were worried what could happen if Russia finds these labs in Ukraine, I highly doubt it’s because then Russia would be super good at protecting themselves from viruses

Also, it’s not the NIH who funds these labs, and it’s not the national institute of health’s website that used to have information on them. It’s the department of defense, the military

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 02:24 PM
*you are here*

Corporate fascist communism. Mash those words toghether into one word (i don't know it yet) and downgrade the citizens to chattle. Give corporations much stronger rights.

*you are here*


"I mean, when people say I'm a class traitor that is not an inaccurate description," she said, per the outlet. "I was deeply from the far left and I converted to being essentially a capitalist Democrat. A lot of people are understandably upset."

Botten
03-12-2022, 02:40 PM
I'm bored of Ukraine

It's just wag the dog anyways. Biden so terrible he wants folks to go chase the shiny in Ukraine to distract them from their misery at home

It isn't boring to you. You actually hate it.

For this Ukraine war is backfiring on you and ruining your entire narrative. In fact it is making you and Republicans look extremely bad.

1. The narrative that Trump's administration was energy independent isn't true. In fact Trump administration upped oil imports from Russian during an economic boom in oil in America.... Russian Oil imports we didn't need were upped by 49% by Trump.

2. Biden administration isn't buying oil from Russia anymore. In fact Trump administration has paid for more oil from Russia than the Biden administration EVER has. How embarrassing for you original narrative.

3. Everyday that goes by the narrative of old Russian support stories by Republicans are coming up in all forms of social media after the first invasion of Ukraine. Stories that make Republicans look really really bad. Like stories that could hurt the chances of Republicans taking mid terms. HOW UNAMERICAN these republicans were!

4. Biden administration Intel has been broadcasted to the nation and has been truthful telling the American people the next steps Russians are taking and how America is economically punishing Russia. The economic punishment is destroying Russia and there is food inflation and its getting scares. Americans are seeing Russia in part losing on some of these initiatives. Biden administration is installing a sense of nationality. And every day we see accomplishments from Ukraine.

5. Biden's speech put his polls up. This pisses you off. In fact his polls can't go down fast enough since that speech. Imagine if this Russia issue is cleared up before midterms! Oh god what if.... Russia backs down. A win! A win to be shared with America.

6. Biden administration is being straight forward with verified information that it is the oil companies and their record profits pushing the problem with oil prices.
Biden has made head way with Saudi Arabia. Increasing oil into the market.

I mean how are you going to force your narrative this keeps HAPPENING.
And if Republicans continue to come out with crazy stories and stories of support for Russia. Don't they know they are going against the Eilzondo republican propaganda fakenews grain!??! That Russian Troll money funneling has nearly stopped. Red neck trumptards can't come up with false stories like those!!!

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 02:41 PM
its wild rt.com is banned in usa?

It feels surreal to live in a country with censored internet, but I guess we always had region settings on DVDs

still feels super wild.

Horza
03-12-2022, 02:47 PM
its wild rt.com is banned in usa?

It feels surreal to live in a country with censored internet, but I guess we always had region settings on DVDs

still feels super wild.

Now where are you supposed to get your vaguely antisemitic conspiracy theories?

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 02:50 PM
its wild rt.com is banned in usa?

It feels surreal to live in a country with censored internet, but I guess we always had region settings on DVDs

still feels super wild.

Aw. I was watching their youtube channel the other day. Wild trip.

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 02:52 PM
It isn't boring to you. You actually hate it.

For this Ukraine war is backfiring on you and ruining your entire narrative. In fact it is making you and Republicans look extremely bad.

1. The narrative that Trump's administration was energy independent isn't true. In fact Trump administration upped oil imports from Russian during an economic boom in oil in America.... Russian Oil imports we didn't need were upped by 49% by Trump.

2. Biden administration isn't buying oil from Russia anymore. In fact Trump administration has paid for more oil from Russia than the Biden administration EVER has. How embarrassing for you original narrative.

3. Everyday that goes by the narrative of old Russian support stories by Republicans are coming up in all forms of social media after the first invasion of Ukraine. Stories that make Republicans look really really bad. Like stories that could hurt the chances of Republicans taking mid terms. HOW UNAMERICAN these republicans were!

4. Biden administration Intel has been broadcasted to the nation and has been truthful telling the American people the next steps Russians are taking and how America is economically punishing Russia. The economic punishment is destroying Russia and there is food inflation and its getting scares. Americans are seeing Russia in part losing on some of these initiatives. Biden administration is installing a sense of nationality. And every day we see accomplishments from Ukraine.

5. Biden's speech put his polls up. This pisses you off. In fact his polls can't go down fast enough since that speech. Imagine if this Russia issue is cleared up before midterms! Oh god what if.... Russia backs down. A win! A win to be shared with America.

6. Biden administration is being straight forward with verified information that it is the oil companies and their record profits pushing the problem with oil prices.
Biden has made head way with Saudi Arabia. Increasing oil into the market.

I mean how are you going to force your narrative this keeps HAPPENING.
And if Republicans continue to come out with crazy stories and stories of support for Russia. Don't they know they are going against the Eilzondo republican propaganda fakenews grain!??! That Russian Troll money funneling has nearly stopped. Red neck trumptards can't come up with false stories like those!!!

lol wtf wall of crazy

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 02:57 PM
Aw. I was watching their youtube channel the other day. Wild trip.

I was literally browsing it thinking, "wow thats what they think?" and then clicked a link and it disappeared was creepy af

ww3 coming?

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 03:17 PM
I was literally browsing it thinking, "wow thats what they think?" and then clicked a link and it disappeared was creepy af

ww3 coming?

rt.com still works for me. it's not good though.

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 03:19 PM
hmm mine does on a different computer now but it still checks my browser, does yours?

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 03:22 PM
hmm mine does on a different computer now but it still checks my browser, does yours?

yeah it looked like the cloudflare ddos protection queue the first time

I'm on a list now!

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 03:25 PM
Now where are you supposed to get your vaguely antisemitic conspiracy theories?

https://time.com/5926750/azov-far-right-movement-facebook/

Like, Share, Recruit: How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members

When they finally rendezvoused, Fuller noticed the swastika tattoo on the middle finger of Furholm’s left hand. It didn’t surprise him; the recruiter had made no secret of his neo-Nazi politics. Within the global network of far-right extremists, he served as a point of contact to the Azov movement, the Ukrainian militant group that has trained and inspired white supremacists from around the world, and which Fuller had come to join.

But Azov is much more than a militia. It has its own political party; two publishing houses; summer camps for children; and a vigilante force known as the National Militia, which patrols the streets of Ukrainian cities alongside the police. Unlike its ideological peers in the U.S. and Europe, it also has a military wing with at least two training bases and a vast arsenal of weapons, from drones and armored vehicles to artillery pieces.

Confirmed Horza supports White Supremecists

BlackBellamy
03-12-2022, 03:28 PM
You like manipulating what you want to hear that is for sure.



fixed your yahoo-based 'news' source'

Since Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014, the US has provided billions in military assistance to Ukraine. This has included medicine, ambulances, body armor, and about 400 old Hummers during the Obama administration, worth about $75 million. The bulk of the assistance including the Javelins, ammunition, small arms and other lethal aid arrived later, under Trump. The US has also trained Ukrainian forces

BlackBellamy
03-12-2022, 03:29 PM
I don't even like Trump. But I love being right.

Trexller
03-12-2022, 03:31 PM
fixed your yahoo-based 'news' source'

botten must be some kind of humiliation cuck fetish weirdo.

all day long he posts shit and immediately gets pwned.

there can be no other reasoning behind his presence other than he enjoys being the bitch.

Horza
03-12-2022, 03:45 PM
https://time.com/5926750/azov-far-right-movement-facebook/



Confirmed Horza supports White Supremecists

Confirmed Elizondo still can't spell.

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 03:51 PM
yeah it looked like the cloudflare ddos protection queue the first time

I'm on a list now!

https://i.imgur.com/cQKe7FJ.png

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 03:58 PM
Confirmed Elizondo still can't spell.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/

America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis - Neo-fascists play an important official or tolerated role in US-backed Ukraine

That stormtroop-like assaults on gays, Jews, elderly ethnic Russians, and other “impure” citizens are widespread throughout Kiev-ruled Ukraine, along with torchlight marches reminiscent of those that eventually inflamed Germany in the late 1920s and 1930s. And that the police and official legal authorities do virtually nothing to prevent these neofascist acts or to prosecute them. On the contrary, Kiev has officially encouraged them by systematically rehabilitating and even memorializing Ukrainian collaborators with Nazi German extermination pogroms and their leaders during World War II, renaming streets in their honor, building monuments to them, rewriting history to glorify them, and more.

Horza confirmed white supremecist (sp)

starkind
03-12-2022, 04:14 PM
hmm mine does on a different computer now but it still checks my browser, does yours?

It takes a minute for dns cache to update unless u tell it to use your routers. Could just be a delay.

Horza
03-12-2022, 04:20 PM
Anyone else remember when conservatives used to accuse their opponents of being soft on Putin, before they started getting all their talking points from Russian state media?

BlackBellamy
03-12-2022, 04:21 PM
botten must be some kind of humiliation cuck fetish weirdo.

all day long he posts shit and immediately gets pwned.

there can be no other reasoning behind his presence other than he enjoys being the bitch.

nah he sounds like a true believer i respect the effort if nothing else

i'm more prone to respond to trolling because of my hubris so he gets me from time to time

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 04:33 PM
Anyone else remember when conservatives used to accuse their opponents of being soft on Putin, before they started getting all their talking points from Russian state media?

Time and The Nation are now Russian State Media!

lol

Horza
03-12-2022, 04:58 PM
Time and The Nation are now Russian State Media!

lol

Nothing like digging up five year old articles that mirror Kremlin talking points from just days ago to make yourself look unbiased.

Knowledge
03-12-2022, 05:19 PM
You voted for Hillary Clinton that's says a lot about your IQ

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 05:42 PM
Nothing like digging up five year old articles that mirror Kremlin talking points from just days ago to make yourself look unbiased.

Horza thinks Time and The Nation are Russian Propaganda now

The eternal spider campin rotting his brain

Horza
03-12-2022, 05:48 PM
lol getting desperate there, Putin simps

Botten
03-12-2022, 05:51 PM
fixed your yahoo-based 'news' source'

Dumbass the point was to show you Trump had limited control on the distribution of those things to Ukraine because it was CONGRESS that decided it. In fact your traitor Trump did the only thing he could have for Putin and that was to extort the money 50+ day also given Ukraine. Wake up!

Botten
03-12-2022, 05:52 PM
I don't even like Trump. But I love being right.

Well then keep trying because you aren’t yet.

Republican Kinzinger: I should have voted to impeach Trump over Ukraine (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/12/kinzinger-republican-impeach-trump-ukraine-putin-madison-cawthorn?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1)

At least some Republicans are smarter than you and get it.

Botten
03-12-2022, 05:55 PM
botten must be some kind of humiliation cuck fetish weirdo.

all day long he posts shit and immediately gets pwned.

there can be no other reasoning behind his presence other than he enjoys being the bitch.

Trexller you are kinda like a Cheerleader. But like a follower in the group that doesn’t think for themselves. Sad really. At least you can always go back to Texas if it doesn’t work for you in the NorthEast. Texas may soon turn blue they need more redneck votes down there.

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 06:06 PM
lol getting desperate there, Putin simps

Bro nobody cares about Pudding

Biden just weak and terrible

Hope that helps

Horza
03-12-2022, 06:07 PM
Russian state television is using clips of Tucker Carlson now, why would they do that?

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 06:26 PM
Russian state television is using clips of Tucker Carlson now, why would they do that?

obviously to trigger you man

starkind
03-12-2022, 06:27 PM
Get a room guys.

starkind
03-12-2022, 06:33 PM
Just cuz it's kinda funny..

https://i.imgur.com/ErVzfiJ.jpeg

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 07:00 PM
Rachel Maddow trying to rehabilitate Hitler's image

Ukraine makin dems go full nazi sympathizer

https://www.thedailybeast.com/msnbc-deletes-former-us-ambassador-michael-mcfauls-comment-that-hitler-didnt-kill-ethnic-germans

McFaul offered his take on The Rachel Maddow Show Friday night, saying he heard a Ukrainian commentator and a Russian journalist say that Hitler did not kill “ethnic Germans” compared to Putin’s attacks against Russian-speaking Ukrainian citizens. McFaul expressed his agreement with the false sentiment, despite people throughout Europe—including in Germany—suffering violent deaths during the Holocaust.

MSNBC later tweeted out McFaul’s statement without attribution Friday night, instead linking to a clip of his comments. “One difference between Putin and Hitler is that Hitler didn’t kill ethnic Germans, German-speaking people,” the tweet, which has since been deleted, read. “Putin slaughters the very people he said he has come to liberate.”

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 07:05 PM
Rachel Maddow trying to rehabilitate Hitler's image

Ukraine makin dems go full nazi sympathizer

https://www.thedailybeast.com/msnbc-deletes-former-us-ambassador-michael-mcfauls-comment-that-hitler-didnt-kill-ethnic-germans

Oliver Stone’s 2016 Ukraine Documentary Banned on YouTube

https://www.bitchute.com/video/l7n6nBoJ6nMS/

This movie is b a n a n a s.

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 07:10 PM
Ukraine also bad??

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 07:10 PM
Oliver Stone’s 2016 Ukraine Documentary Banned on YouTube

https://www.bitchute.com/video/l7n6nBoJ6nMS/

This movie is b a n a n a s.

Dems "Stand With Ukraine's Azovs"

Horza
03-12-2022, 07:14 PM
GOP projection knows no bounds, nobody remembers when the stage at CPAC was a SS symbol or Ingraham did a sieg heil to Trump onstage?

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 07:15 PM
GOP projection knows no bounds, nobody remembers when the stage at CPAC was a SS symbol or Ingraham did a sieg heil to Trump onstage?

I think that's different than torch marches dude.

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 07:39 PM
GOP projection knows no bounds, nobody remembers when the stage at CPAC was a SS symbol or Ingraham did a sieg heil to Trump onstage?

bro you just paranoid and seein things. Conspiracy Theory for sure

meanwhile dems whitewashin Hitler cuz they need Pudding to be a scapegoat for Biden's failures so badly

Horza
03-12-2022, 07:48 PM
bro you just paranoid and seein things. Conspiracy Theory for sure

meanwhile dems whitewashin Hitler cuz they need Pudding to be a scapegoat for Biden's failures so badly

https://i.imgur.com/IomBEHJ.jpg

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 08:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/IomBEHJ.jpg

Yea she just wavin to the crowd

meanwhile on MSNBC Maddow show they doin PR for Hitler

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 08:14 PM
I think that's different than torch marches dude.

https://i.imgur.com/5qy1Esh.png

:o

Horza
03-12-2022, 08:20 PM
Yea she just wavin to the crowd

lol

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 08:24 PM
That was the highpoint of the trump win for me.

Like the idea that she walked out on stage and was so mentally high on the idea that finally they were gonna get to hitler up this country and she then quickly is like WHOPS that was the wrong wave!

I love it. It was like an adorable nazi moment, like this scene in Imperium:

4SE-UOTPVKw

Adorable little nazi girls.

starkind
03-12-2022, 08:41 PM
I feel like Harry Potter is Nazi pedo Propoganda..

I just get bad vibes, I've watched most and I feel like those kids got abused..

Jibartik
03-12-2022, 08:44 PM
That's actually scene from the crimes of grindelwald when they visit harry, at his home, him as an Auror and adult familyman in the full blown nazi wizarding world.

Trexller
03-12-2022, 08:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/IomBEHJ.jpg

so lemme get this straight

russia invaded Ukraine to put down a nazi uprising, and republicans whom according to you, are nazis, and also support the russian invasion of ukraine to "de-nazify" the country?

politics sure is weird

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 08:58 PM
politics sure is weird

4FHd5JDhu5A

starkind
03-12-2022, 09:00 PM
That's actually scene from the crimes of grindelwald when they visit harry, at his home, him as an Auror and adult familyman in the full blown nazi wizarding world.

I mean the real hp

starkind
03-12-2022, 09:05 PM
4FHd5JDhu5A

https://i.imgur.com/OJ8EMts.jpeg

Horza
03-12-2022, 09:30 PM
so lemme get this straight

russia invaded Ukraine to put down a nazi uprising, and republicans whom according to you, are nazis, and also support the russian invasion of ukraine to "de-nazify" the country?

politics sure is weird

What kind of Nazi uprising has a Jewish president in charge though?

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 09:40 PM
What kind of Nazi uprising has a Jewish president in charge though?

That's true, the Azov Brigade probably doesn't represent the Ukrainian state.

Haha unless (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion)

On 12 November 2014, Azov was incorporated into the National Guard of Ukraine, and since then all members have been official soldiers serving in the National Guard.

starkind
03-12-2022, 09:59 PM
That's true, the Azov Brigade probably doesn't represent the Ukrainian state.

Haha unless (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion)


Despite accusations that the group is antisemitic, some members of the Jewish community in Ukraine support and serve in the Azov Battalion. One of its most prominent members is Nathan Khazin, leader of the "Jewish hundreds" during the 2013 Euromaidan protests in Kyiv.[104] In an interview, Andriy Biletsky explained that he regards Israel and Japan as role models for the development of Ukraine.[105]

Slavic paganism
Most soldiers of Azov are followers of a Ukrainian nationalist type of Rodnovery (Slavic Native Faith), wherefrom they derive some of their symbolism (such as a variation of the swastika symbol kolovrat). They have also established Rodnover shrines for their religious rites, including one in Mariupol dedicated to Perun.[106]


I'm just quoting your own link

I'm giving you a hard time

Because

As a heals in the sky western spy...

I do not know much about that region locally..

What I do know is Nazi stole the swash from Tengri shamanism and other religions... near that area on trade routes... they may have actual legitimate claim of originality b4 the nazi ever used that iconography..

And these guys are definitely probably racist and national socialist...

However....I would say they are different than Nazi

I definitely am sure they got some bad apples and recruits... who are extremists... either outa prison or desperation..

Letting them grow? Bad idea... is Russia really there to stop these guys tho?

Wheren't the west putting the pressure on Ukraine saying "we won't train or condone these guys".

Seems like a dumb excuse as there are many Nazi by these definitions in USA police and military... still....

I'm not being a Nazi apologist, I believe we should all become Isreal.

Elizondo
03-12-2022, 10:22 PM
Horza now doin PR for Nazis on elf forums like Maddow was doin on MSNBC

starkind
03-12-2022, 10:31 PM
TLDR: Khazar gangs... grimmmsomeine tilde mein (told me)

(U probably would too if u were a surviving indigenous person from there) it's less then a century since that place was completely leveled last. Less then 25 years many places in the countryside has no law or running water or electricity except what the tribes... gangs.. make...

Think it thru

Putin is a jerk. Probably working with the globalists.

Any excuse for those ppl to keep outsiders away was a good one... maybe not effective..they die anyway...maybe they can kill many Russia first... there point of view.. not mine...

Pray 4 them /\ to love again one day

Reiwa
03-12-2022, 11:02 PM
Bad idea... is Russia really there to stop these guys tho?

Wheren't the west putting the pressure on Ukraine saying "we won't train or condone these guys".

Seems like a dumb excuse as there are many Nazi by these definitions in USA police and military... still....

Well that's who Zelenskyy sent into the separatist Donbass areas between the wars.

And no, USA police are nothing like the Azovs.

starkind
03-12-2022, 11:48 PM
Well that's who Zelenskyy sent into the separatist Donbass areas between the wars.

And no, USA police are nothing like the Azovs.

Maybe it's more like Idaho sending its more bread and butter radicaluzed Christian miscreants to defend border with UT against more moderate Mormons...all tho Wyoming probably has a real Nazi gang.

Maybe I'm an ignorant jerk... and I should stfu

I trust u p good on some topics.. tho not sure how far I'd go on this one. I'm skeptical and paranoid..

Also I served with a lot of racist guys...by bernie sanders standards... so... ya...

There's some hardcore racists on the USA forces. No doubt about it.. they aren't like gangs or thugs tho... and they show up and work hard...so it's really f'ckn hard 2 hate when u see truly animalistic barbarism coming from so many civvies...(unpopular opinion)..it be this way tho...

Oh BTW I served also with other ppl who where from black and Mexican gang roots... so ya that is always fucking interesting when u get like nazi, crip, some Mexican in 1 platoon.

I'm just saying SHIT is cray yo... those boys be living off grid in the mnts a long time. It's a bit like calling some town in Colorado a super mega nazi stronghold... there is actually a town in Colorado that us creepy where one of those make baby and kill the gay kids cults ,troll farms operates from...

I digress...

Do some research tho. I emplore u... be4 u become an expert on Azov and the Donbass.

Wikipedia is weak...

...


Russia is also full AF w hardcore Nazi by all this same standards.... that chechen general that got blown up was a really hardcore gucci mf closeted champ...

Nocht
03-12-2022, 11:50 PM
Soviets were best faction in Red Alert 2.

/discuss

Horza
03-13-2022, 12:50 AM
Horza now doin PR for Nazis on elf forums like Maddow was doin on MSNBC

You've convinced me, paste eater. Long live Putin and the patriots over at Fox News!

Trexller
03-13-2022, 12:51 AM
Horza now doin PR for Nazis on elf forums like Maddow was doin on MSNBC

What kind of Nazi uprising has a Jewish president in charge though?

how the fuck should i know? answer your own question then go die in the hole you crawled out of.

you're the toxic trolling dipshit who is always vomitting up shit like "republicans are nazis" I'm calling you out on your bullshit hypocrisy. Fuckin Dem shitbags have been using nazi social tactics for decades, while republicans stand there going, "Fuck man, do we really have the play the game with these fuckin' retards?"

you won't answer it, you will deflect onto another topic, because you're a tiny little coward that cannot stand being their words.

starkind
03-13-2022, 12:55 AM
Tldr ignore the liberal comments its a cute video tho.

It all makes sense now. https://imgur.com/gallery/WMdLcN9

I think he just broke.. my original assessment stands... dude snapped.. he pulled Russia out of Soviet era by killing ppl and making devil deals... and the globalists devoured his soul... he probably doesn't have a clue at this point and is spiraling into paranoia and isolation.

Trexller
03-13-2022, 01:13 AM
Tldr ignore the liberal comments its a cute video tho.

It all makes sense now. https://imgur.com/gallery/WMdLcN9

I think he just broke.. my original assessment stands... dude snapped.. he pulled Russia out of Soviet era by killing ppl and making devil deals... and the globalists devoured his soul... he probably doesn't have a clue at this point and is spiraling into paranoia and isolation.

what liberal comments?

all that video shows is dynamic situations where there was a lot going on, and a few minor social faux pas occurred. there are plenty of times when world leaders meet and customs mis-align.

its a mountain out of a mole hill. Putin attends these functions to brand himself a man of the people, from a P.R. perspective, it paints him as such, he goes with the flow. Its all P.R.

for you rabid libtards: this is not a defense of putin, its an attack on sensationalism, so fuck you.

Now you wanna see a great video of a Putin handshake that could have ended connor mcgregor's life?

Here you go my friends:

tdCo3gouGRw

starkind
03-13-2022, 01:23 AM
what liberal comments?

all that video shows is dynamic situations where there was a lot going on, and a few minor social faux pas occurred. there are plenty of times when world leaders meet and customs mis-align.

its a mountain out of a mole hill. Putin attends these functions to brand himself a man of the people, from a P.R. perspective, it paints him as such, he goes with the flow. Its all P.R.

for you rabid libtards: this is not a defense of putin, its an attack on sensationalism, so fuck you.

Now you wanna see a great video of a Putin handshake that could have ended connor mcgregor's life?

Here you go my friends:

tdCo3gouGRw

Ya. I mean.. You're right..that KJU maneuver tho..

U saw link b4 it went viral and got flooded.. check tomorrow for spicy comments!

Also Putin didn't react horrible. More in danger from his own body guards there. Notice Putin put his arm on McGregor.. and McGregor bow when he realizes that oof.

Putins body language in both videos is very telling..

Psycho..Sociopaths don't respond like that. Not well. Or ppl who doesn't have emotional response..

It's clear Putin seeks approval from people.

That is the problem with power and Propoganda..nationalism..it doesn't matter how nice or well meaning u are. It gets EVERYONE...not saying Putin is like super nice... he's a normal human tho... if he wasn't in the circumstances he's in with the history...born elsewhere he wouldn't be a "monster".

He's not a victim either...his whole country is tho.

Everyone has the potential to be like Putin..lot of people hate being reminded of that... thems the cold hard facts tho

I would go so far to say Putin was more stable and sane than me...idk about immediately right now cuz shit is spiraling for him and that will do u in.. the guy is more expressive and functional than me tho... if we want to talk about insanity and red flags. .that is a very recent development for him... if so.

Jibartik
03-13-2022, 01:36 AM
Oliver Stone says biden administration organized the war with Ukraine during their last administration in 2016 documentary: https://www.bitchute.com/video/1oemelEu6oeH/

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 01:50 AM
Maybe it's more like Idaho sending its more bread and butter radicaluzed Christian miscreants to defend border with UT against more moderate Mormons...all tho Wyoming probably has a real Nazi gang.

Maybe I'm an ignorant jerk... and I should stfu

I trust u p good on some topics.. tho not sure how far I'd go on this one. I'm skeptical and paranoid..

Also I served with a lot of racist guys...by bernie sanders standards... so... ya...

There's some hardcore racists on the USA forces. No doubt about it.. they aren't like gangs or thugs tho... and they show up and work hard...so it's really f'ckn hard 2 hate when u see truly animalistic barbarism coming from so many civvies...(unpopular opinion)..it be this way tho...

Oh BTW I served also with other ppl who where from black and Mexican gang roots... so ya that is always fucking interesting when u get like nazi, crip, some Mexican in 1 platoon.

I'm just saying SHIT is cray yo... those boys be living off grid in the mnts a long time. It's a bit like calling some town in Colorado a super mega nazi stronghold... there is actually a town in Colorado that us creepy where one of those make baby and kill the gay kids cults ,troll farms operates from...

I digress...

Do some research tho. I emplore u... be4 u become an expert on Azov and the Donbass.

Wikipedia is weak...

...


Russia is also full AF w hardcore Nazi by all this same standards.... that chechen general that got blown up was a really hardcore gucci mf closeted champ...

ok yes well but

https://i.imgur.com/q05Ydr8.jpg

starkind
03-13-2022, 01:53 AM
Oliver Stone says biden administration organized the war with Ukraine during their last administration in 2016 documentary: https://www.bitchute.com/video/1oemelEu6oeH/

Go watch Air America!..

Ya them alphabet agencies r always upto no gud...what is new?

Yes. America precipitates death and chaos constantly since forever... idk wat else to say.

Ppl will turn their brains off tho cuz nukes and war crimes... so all the shit US did to destabilizing the world 70 years indirectly contributed yes...no doubt they wanted a coupe

Also Zelenskyy has a lot of heat... y u think Russia choose Z to put on vehicles.. I think secretly the western cabal wants Z dead. As an example. Right now he's inspired billions of ppl tho.

I still bet Putin is just the bad cop. In a good cop bad cop situation...this will go on for quite some time at the expense of everyone except the war chest guys who'll be rollin deep.

*** of course this post is pure heknconjectjure tho.

starkind
03-13-2022, 01:55 AM
ok yes well but

https://i.imgur.com/q05Ydr8.jpg

Wat about the wookies? Don't they like repeatedly win?

Jibartik
03-13-2022, 03:27 AM
love air america

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 04:16 AM
You've convinced me, paste eater. Long live Putin and the patriots over at Fox News!

brah i don't care about Pudding

I just wanna know why you doin PR for Nazis like MSNBC

Jimjam
03-13-2022, 04:59 AM
Wat about the wookies? Don't they like repeatedly win?

I’m not sure I understand the meme... is it a satire on ‘what about ism’ where the ‘whatabout’ has nothing to do with the topic on hand?

starkind
03-13-2022, 08:37 AM
I’m not sure I understand the meme... is it a satire on ‘what about ism’ where the ‘whatabout’ has nothing to do with the topic on hand?

Yeah.. metaphors and analogies aren't whataboutism .

Their like drawing pictures with more close to home stuff...I am not even arguing that there aren't Nazi in Ukraine.. just that ppl without Slavic experience are going to blow Azov far out of proportion.

Denazifying Ukraine is like saying Denazifying Texas.... especially if Texas created State military battalions based out of each city...


"Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_in_the_Name

This holds true everywhere...

Horza wanted to know why a Jewish president...

Because the same reason our hypothetical Texas could elect a Jewish governor or senator..

And I further illustrated within Reiwa's own article and source in why the Azov is Nazi that:

There was jews in Azov.
They use indigenous religious symbols.

Then I speculated speculation is kind of silly because that region has a really rich history that dates to b4 Germany and Austria...

I mean...if Russians wanted Donbas and to kill the Azov Battalion..they could just have dipped in and out.. then fortified outside the Donbass cities while literally feeding and respecting the civilians! They didn't need to blast down Kyiv. Putin massively overplayed his hand and Nazi hype....

TODAY in the news! FL denazifying and demilitarizing Georgia! Levels black neighborhoods in Atlanta! Surrounds Atlanta! Kinda "skirts around Ft Benning! Why though? Fucking wookies man... way tf 2 bad ass...guilie suits are actually p cool! 😎

starkind
03-13-2022, 08:46 AM
Yabuttism!

🧸🍷

Patriam1066
03-13-2022, 09:07 AM
Trexller you are kinda like a Cheerleader. But like a follower in the group that doesn’t think for themselves. Sad really. At least you can always go back to Texas if it doesn’t work for you in the NorthEast. Texas may soon turn blue they need more redneck votes down there.

Nah man we have Mexicans, ten times dumber than rednecks could ever hope to be. Texas will never go blue

BlackBellamy
03-13-2022, 10:12 AM
It's funny how the Mexicans come in and they're super grateful to the Democrats for keeping the wall down and giving them social welfare and healthcare. Viva Biden!

The second they put down roots they realize they're conservatives and start voting Republican.

starkind
03-13-2022, 10:18 AM
Well. Ya don't need welfare if ya can make a living ..

Trexller
03-13-2022, 12:53 PM
It's funny how the Mexicans come in and they're super grateful to the Democrats for keeping the wall down and giving them social welfare and healthcare. Viva Biden!

The second they put down roots they realize they're conservatives and start voting Republican.

if you're not a liberal at 20, you're heartless.

if you're not a conservative at 40, you're brainless!

unsunghero
03-13-2022, 12:55 PM
if you're not a liberal at 20, you're heartless.

if you're not a conservative at 40, you're brainless!

Yea my dad always told me this growing up

And yea Mexican immigrants, especially those living in border states, heart’s don’t bleed for the plight of Central American illegals nearly as much as Dems would like

starkind
03-13-2022, 01:06 PM
People don't understand South American criminal justice culture very well. It's sad. 😢

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 02:37 PM
It's funny how the Mexicans come in and they're super grateful to the Democrats for keeping the wall down and giving them social welfare and healthcare. Viva Biden!

The second they put down roots they realize they're conservatives and start voting Republican.

Most Mexican folks are Catholic and when they turn on lib TV and see chicks with mustaches and dudes with fake bitties all over the place, border wall or no border wall, they ain't votin for that

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 02:45 PM
Most Mexican folks are Catholic and when they turn on lib TV and see chicks with mustaches and dudes with fake bitties all over the place, border wall or no border wall, they ain't votin for that

Biden is Catholic, as is Pelosi.

Botten
03-13-2022, 02:47 PM
Most Mexican folks are Catholic and when they turn on lib TV and see chicks with mustaches and dudes with fake bitties all over the place, border wall or no border wall, they ain't votin for that

You preach that crazy Qanon shaman.

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 02:47 PM
I’m not sure I understand the meme... is it a satire on ‘what about ism’ where the ‘whatabout’ has nothing to do with the topic on hand?

No meaning, I just wanted to interrupt her. :p

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 02:49 PM
Biden is Catholic, as is Pelosi.

lol

Trexller
03-13-2022, 02:55 PM
You preach that crazy Qanon shaman.

nothing of note here, yet another botten fail

unsunghero
03-13-2022, 03:54 PM
Biden is Catholic, as is Pelosi.

There’s some Catholics who think if you are pro abortion, you aren’t really Catholic

Me however, I’m all religions at once, because I say am

Horza
03-13-2022, 04:03 PM
Biden is Catholic, as is Pelosi.

Trumptards are just now realizing Catholics have been overwhelming voting for Democrats since Nixon.

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 04:26 PM
There’s some Catholics who think if you are pro abortion, you aren’t really Catholic

Me however, I’m all religions at once, because I say am

There are also Catholics who think those people should shutup and not pass judgement because it's God's uh, prerogative? realm of authority

Knowledge
03-13-2022, 04:29 PM
Biden is Catholic, as is Pelosi.

Thtas the guise they hide under to the public. They are Satanists.

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 05:00 PM
There are also Catholics who think those people should shutup and not pass judgement because it's God's uh, prerogative? realm of authority

Ephesians 5 (1-7) 1 Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children 2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.[a] 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

starkind
03-13-2022, 05:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6AIEslg.jpeg

Horza
03-13-2022, 05:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/eD5nlMM.jpg

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 05:16 PM
Therefore do not be partners with them.

Yeah but we dropped that as doctrine in Dignitis Humanae.

He's a pretty forgiving guy. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZefYTo79Wow)

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 05:33 PM
Yeah but we dropped that as doctrine in Dignitis Humanae.

He's a pretty forgiving guy. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZefYTo79Wow)

It's directly from The Bible dude (God's Word)

Stop tryin to dig another rabbit hole. You're embarrassing yourself.

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 05:48 PM
It's directly from The Bible dude (God's Word)

Stop tryin to dig another rabbit hole. You're embarrassing yourself.

Bad example of a rabbit hole dude, Vatican 2 is totally relevant to the sinner partners thing you posted.

You should feel pretty silly right now.

Patriam1066
03-13-2022, 06:10 PM
Catholic theological debates are for Ireland or Italy. The pope has no power on these shores

starkind
03-13-2022, 06:13 PM
10 commandments in synergy is all that matters.

Everything else is just allegory and metaphor, storytime, to try and teach you and was rewritten and translated by men bearing false witness..

Quote:
The Symmetry of the Ten Commandments
The Ten Commandments were carved on two tablets, so let us visualize them as being laid out as follows:


TABLET ONE TABLET TWO
1. I am the L-rd your G‑d … 6. You shall not murder.
2. You shall have no gods … 7. You shall not commit adultery.
3. You shall not take the name of the L-rd your G‑d in vain … 8. You shall not steal.
4. Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy … 9. You shall not bear false witness …
5. Honor your father and mother … 10. You shall not covet your neighbor's house …
Note that we can read the commandments down each tablet, or we can read them from side to side. This Midrash3 provides the connection:

Commandments 1 and 6: Every human is created in the image of G‑d, so murder is an affront to the Creator.

Commandments 2 and 7: When one worships a deity other than G‑d, it is as akin to adultery. G‑d is our loving spouse (and much more).

Commandments 3 and 8: A person may feel that stealing is only between him and the victim, but it is also a crime against G‑d, whose name will ultimately be taken falsely.

Commandments 4 and 9: Through keeping Shabbat, we testify that G‑d created the world in six days and rested on the seventh. When one disregards Shabbat, he testifies falsely about the Divine origin of the universe.

Commandments 5 and 10: The juxtaposition of jealousy and honoring parents tell us that one who lusts after that which is not his, will ultimately give birth to a child who curses his parents and honors others instead.
https://www.chabad.org/library/artic...mmandments.htm


G-d wants you to grow up and create better stories.

/\

Patriam1066
03-13-2022, 06:15 PM
Trumptards are just now realizing Catholics have been overwhelming voting for Democrats since Nixon.

Are they still? I thought it was a dead heat now

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 06:27 PM
Bad example of a rabbit hole dude, Vatican 2 is totally relevant to the sinner partners thing you posted.

You should feel pretty silly right now.

Dude you have no idea wtf you are talking about lol

You ARE silly

starkind
03-13-2022, 06:31 PM
My vote and consideration is for Reiwa.

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 06:33 PM
My vote and consideration is for Reiwa.

Maybe he'll run for Prez someday and get that 1 vote

starkind
03-13-2022, 06:34 PM
Maybe he'll run for Prez someday and get that 1 vote

Totally would just so I could watch Reiwa on TV every day.

Patriam or Jibartik 2. Reiwa is my first choice tho.

Allthough BlackBellamy is a foreigner, i think he's a good choice to.

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 06:40 PM
Dude you have no idea wtf you are talking about lol

You ARE silly

Wheats and chaffs together baby (https://youtu.be/L-bFxxCrE_I)

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 06:47 PM
Wheats and chaffs together baby (https://youtu.be/L-bFxxCrE_I)

Rabbit Hole denied

Continue with your cringe posting

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 06:52 PM
Rabbit Hole denied

Continue with your cringe posting

Maybe explain why I'm wrong instead of trying to be a macho posting man? 💪

starkind
03-13-2022, 07:14 PM
Since gay is a trigger this is a perfect example...

*If you wear a dress because you're jealous or envious = bad. Or maybe even adulterous.
*If you dress to deceive. i.e. Russians wearing Ukraine paramedic uniform = bad.
*If you dress to earn credits for donation to a charity through your work.. maybe as an actress = pretty ok. Could also be ok and bad. Simultaneously.
*Dressing for farming to give food to ppl = 90% likely to be really cool. Tho u could add complexity here which could add sin.. like you're forcing people to submit to get the food.
*If you love your body and want to honor G-d. By being modest or clean and attractive. Usually pretty good.

So. Like. I don't believe G-d made me wrong, he gave me an opportunity to be who I am and honor him and his creation in that. An opportunity to care for this body.. and experience something unique that helps others through my own enlightenment. Even something like cancer could provide this teachable journey. Whether the cancer came from my own sin, someone else's, Satan, or G-d. It's not an easy path.. You may not like what I do with it. There it is. That is not your place. That's between me and G-d.

Do some people decieve themselves or others? Ya all the time. Remember forgiveness is a virtue. So is being honest with and trying to help them. Being a knee-jerk asshole, or trying to punish them isn't usually very G-dly tho.

Hope this helps a little /\

I tried not to trigger you.

G-d gave me a body that works with dresses. It was nice. I learned much. :) :cool:

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 07:32 PM
Maybe explain why I'm wrong instead of trying to be a macho posting man? 💪

Wrong about what?

What is your argument

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 07:36 PM
Wrong about what?

What is your argument

Infallible Rome done changed the game. 👍

Jibartik
03-13-2022, 07:39 PM
Democrats vote Vatican because that's the antichrist faction.

Is what I reckon.

Elizondo
03-13-2022, 07:43 PM
Infallible Rome done changed the game. 👍

lol you a clown

Ambiguous nonsense posting about nothing

Reiwa
03-13-2022, 07:57 PM
lol you a clown

Ambiguous nonsense posting about nothing

💪💪💪 🤡

starkind
03-13-2022, 08:06 PM
Rome' issss really grumpy. I don't align with them so much as they sometimes align with me. I can't fathom them as I am not privy to even their origins. So I just choose to study and work harder at being nicer and more kind. My greatest sin, past tense was wrath, hatred, and I still worry about it.

BlackBellamy
03-13-2022, 09:22 PM
Was looking for a Discord chat export tool. Found this:

https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter

DiscordChatExporter

✅ Project status: active

DiscordChatExporter can be used to export message history from a Discord channel to a file. It works with direct messages, group messages, and server channels, and supports Discord's dialect of markdown as well as all other rich media features.

❓ If you have questions or issues, please refer to the wiki

Terms of use

By using this project or its source code, for any purpose and in any shape or form, you grant your implicit agreement to all the following statements:


You condemn Russia and its military aggression against Ukraine
You recognize that Russia is an occupant that unlawfully invaded a sovereign state
You support Ukraine's territorial integrity, including its claims over temporarily occupied territories of Crimea and Donbas
You reject false narratives perpetuated by Russian state propaganda
To learn more about the war and how you can help, click here. Glory to Ukraine!

starkind
03-13-2022, 09:31 PM
Oh. I bet there totally isn't like any malicious code whatsoever...

starkind
03-14-2022, 08:51 AM
Guys

I figured it out.

Russia bent knee to Xi.

BlackBellamy
03-14-2022, 09:27 AM
Oh. I bet there totally isn't like any malicious code whatsoever...

I really needed to export the logs though so I clicked on the .exe and then when win 10 said omg it's fucking unsigned wtf are you doing I just dismissed that warning.

I've never gotten a computer virus in my life, not gonna happen now. You know why? Because God is my Pair Programmer.

I know appeals to the supernatural work. As proof I present to you the latest statement from Russian National Guard chief Viktor Zolotov. He was giving a speech in a church and he pointed an icon of a saint and said:

"I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like, but we are going towards our goal step by step and victory will be for us, and this icon will protect the Russian army and accelerate our victory."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/top-putin-ally-says-ukraine-war-has-been-slower-than-expected-2022-03-14/

Bringing in the Orthodox God is a serious escalation.

BlackBellamy
03-14-2022, 09:33 AM
Gods rated by power*:


Catholic God
Allah
Elohim
Orthodox God
TBA
TBA
TBA
Brahman


* Rated by power given to followers, not personal power.

(Protestants worship Satan and themselves)

starkind
03-14-2022, 09:36 AM
I was curious how big the project was. How many lines of code.. lol. Couldn't find it easily.

This world is probably dead already...

Thats not to say we should abandon our principles. It's now more important than ever to face death with dignity.

starkind
03-14-2022, 09:48 AM
Idk... they can tell their people they won all they want....

Russia fired on a residential area https://imgur.com/gallery/yBCbId2

They've already lost....

I know it's war... you don't need to explain war to me. I'm familiar enough...

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 11:26 AM
Gods rated by power*:


Catholic God
Allah
Elohim
Orthodox God
TBA
TBA
TBA
Brahman


* Rated by power given to followers, not personal power.

(Protestants worship Satan and themselves)

starkind
03-14-2022, 11:44 AM
I hope someone saves Putin and his remaining staff soon. I hate seeing anyone suffering. I'll do what I can from here.

/\

starkind
03-14-2022, 12:33 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-14/china-s-tech-rout-deepens-amid-lockdown-geopolitical-worries

2.1 trillion.

Most of you have no idea how big that number is.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 12:53 PM
I think the most insane thing about the last 2 weeks is that russia waited until the weekend to blow up a bunch of cities because american news takes the weekend off.

Horza
03-14-2022, 01:06 PM
Leaked Kremlin war memo instructs Russian state media to feature Fox News host Tucker Carlson 'as much as possible.' (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/exclusive-kremlin-putin-russia-ukraine-war-memo-tucker-carlson-fox/)

Trexller
03-14-2022, 01:49 PM
Elon Musk is going 100% Tony Stark

"I hereby challenge Владимир Путин to single combat," Musk wrote, using Putin’s Russian name. He added, "Stakes are Україна," using the Ukrainian spelling for Ukraine.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/elon-musk-putin-single-combat-ukraine-russia-responds-little-devil

BlackBellamy
03-14-2022, 01:51 PM
Leaked Kremlin war memo instructs Russian state media to feature Fox News host Tucker Carlson 'as much as possible.' (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/exclusive-kremlin-putin-russia-ukraine-war-memo-tucker-carlson-fox/)

Sure! So what?

BlackBellamy
03-14-2022, 01:53 PM
Estonia formally calls for no-fly zone.

Wait...doesn't sound dramatic enough.

NATO country formally declares support for attacking Russian airplanes over the Ukraine.

That's better!

"The Riigikogu (Parliament of Estonia) expresses its support to the defenders and the people of the state of Ukraine in their fight against the Russian Federation that has launched a criminal war," the parliament said in a statement.

"The Riigikogu asks the UN member states to take immediate steps to establish a no-fly zone in order to prevent massive civilian casualties in Ukraine." the body stated.

The Riigikogu also urges all other national parliaments to adopt a similar statement.

starkind
03-14-2022, 01:56 PM
It'd be hilarious if China and Turkey stepped in to be the hero here and bolster their Federation credibility prior to a Taiwan reconciliation :p

Won't happen tho.

BlackBellamy
03-14-2022, 02:01 PM
1) Soon another NATO nation will issue such a proclamation and another and another. Poland, Lithuania, Latvia...

2) The pressure will grow as the stalemate continues and the bodies rot in the streets.

3) Russia will rattle it's nuclear saber.

4) ...

5) Profit!

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 02:07 PM
Bang zoom (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/elon-musk-putin-single-combat-ukraine-russia-responds-little-devil)

https://i.imgur.com/fZvojJD.jpg

Fedorov has been running a fundraiser to launch Putin into space for weeks, saying the proceeds would go to repairing damaged Ukrainian infrastructure.

starkind
03-14-2022, 03:09 PM
Bang zoom (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/elon-musk-putin-single-combat-ukraine-russia-responds-little-devil)

https://i.imgur.com/fZvojJD.jpg

Civilian billionaires coulditerally pool and offer a quite fair bounty worth a half of Russias GDP and easily pay out to help rebuild their next great leaders regime.

DO IT!

So if Putin nukes the starlink. Musk literally has cassus belli to dropship in bounty hunters?

unsunghero
03-14-2022, 03:45 PM
Lol Elon Musk challenged Putin to one on one combat with the prize of Ukraine?? I just read this, couldn’t believe it

Elon has lost his damn mind lol. Imagine if he lost, how does he give Putin Ukraine? “Sorry Ukraine, Putin was a lot older than me so I thought I had the fight in the bag, but that old fucker can grapple. You have to surrender now, I lost”

Lol Elon, you done lost your damn mind but it’s funny

BlackBellamy
03-14-2022, 04:08 PM
Lol Elon Musk challenged Putin to one on one combat with the prize of Ukraine?? I just read this, couldn’t believe it

Elon has lost his damn mind lol. Imagine if he lost, how does he give Putin Ukraine? “Sorry Ukraine, Putin was a lot older than me so I thought I had the fight in the bag, but that old fucker can grapple. You have to surrender now, I lost”

Lol Elon, you done lost your damn mind but it’s funny

It happened before when we sent Sgt. York to France. Congress passed the Champion Act, vesting Sgt. York with the power to gather Companions and also to Decide by Combat. When Sgt. York and his seven Undaunted captured 132 Germans after charging machine gun nests, the Kaiser and the General Staff committed suicide and Germany was dissolved.

And that's how Johnny Appleseed won The Great War!

BlackBellamy
03-14-2022, 04:20 PM
Macron BEFORE ALL THIS:

https://i.imgur.com/R5C5Wn1.jpg

Macron NOW THAT ALL THIS HAPPENED:

https://i.imgur.com/ZHr9JGm.jpg

Holding a chair ✅

Stubble ✅

Tussled ✅

The stare ✅

Drawstrings ✅

Action pose ✅

Jordache jeans ❗❗❗

Trexller
03-14-2022, 04:30 PM
so macron and zelenskyy are tryin to put on a tough face for the world

now is a pretty good time for some toxic masculinity

Horza
03-14-2022, 04:40 PM
An employee on Russia’s state Channel One television has interrupted the channel’s main news program with an extraordinary anti-war protest. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/14/russian-tv-employee-interrupts-news-broadcast-marina-ovsyannikova)

The protester, who was identified by Russian media as Channel One employee Marina Ovsyannikova, burst on to the set of the live broadcast of the nightly news on Monday evening, shouting: “Stop the war. No to war.” She also held a sign saying: “Don’t believe the propaganda. They’re lying to you here.”

RIP

Trexller
03-14-2022, 04:55 PM
Marina Ovsyannikova says out of character, 'WTB rez at siberian gulag zoneline'

starkind
03-14-2022, 05:23 PM
Lol Elon Musk challenged Putin to one on one combat with the prize of Ukraine?? I just read this, couldn’t believe it

Elon has lost his damn mind lol. Imagine if he lost, how does he give Putin Ukraine? “Sorry Ukraine, Putin was a lot older than me so I thought I had the fight in the bag, but that old fucker can grapple. You have to surrender now, I lost”

Lol Elon, you done lost your damn mind but it’s funny

If he loses Putin gets Ukraine plus something of Equal value of Musks. Defense gets to choose vs challenger something of Equal value.

Musk is just fighting for Ukraines honor. Grimes will of course back him up with a lotr sword and elf ears.

BlackBellamy
03-14-2022, 06:23 PM
China market is cratering over worries with it's relationship with Russia. The Hang Seng index dropped more than 4%, sliding below 20,000 to the lowest level since 2015.

https://i.imgur.com/Bl6ORqr.jpg

The US-traded Golden Dragon China index tumbled another 12%, taking its drawdown to -75% from its recent all time high, surpassing the drawdown recorded during the global financial crisis.

https://i.imgur.com/waTFp3I.jpg

Big meeting coming up between US and China.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/13/jake-sullivan-china-yang-jiechi-russia-ukraine-00016831

We're going to tell them that if they help Putin in any way, we're gonna start putting the economic hurt on them. White House is already talking about 'consequences' and China knows the West is recently emboldened. China's markets are super fragile and can't take any more pounding in light of what Covid did to their economy already and continues to do so.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/14/chinas-silicon-valley-shenzhen-orders-production-halts-control-covid.html

Putin is fucking China. China hates those fucking Russians, it's always something with those assholes. First they ruined the perfect ideology with piss-poor execution and then they committed the ultimate heresy of deviation. Junior partner and a major pain.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 06:26 PM
We live in a time in america's history where saying something like "WMDs in iraq is a lie", would result in banning you from the media.

We are fucking dead meat.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 06:28 PM
China market is cratering over worries with it's relationship with Russia. The Hang Seng index dropped more than 4%, sliding below 20,000 to the lowest level since 2015.

https://i.imgur.com/Bl6ORqr.jpg

The US-traded Golden Dragon China index tumbled another 12%, taking its drawdown to -75% from its recent all time high, surpassing the drawdown recorded during the global financial crisis.

https://i.imgur.com/waTFp3I.jpg

Big meeting coming up between US and China.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/13/jake-sullivan-china-yang-jiechi-russia-ukraine-00016831

We're going to tell them that if they help Putin in any way, we're gonna start putting the economic hurt on them. White House is already talking about 'consequences' and China knows the West is recently emboldened. China's markets are super fragile and can't take any more pounding in light of what Covid did to their economy already and continues to do so.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/14/chinas-silicon-valley-shenzhen-orders-production-halts-control-covid.html

Putin is fucking China. China hates those fucking Russians, it's always something with those assholes. First they ruined the perfect ideology with piss-poor execution and then they committed the ultimate heresy of deviation. Junior partner and a major pain.

I mean, if you were going to setup a manufacturing deal would you reach out to china right now?

Would you take 25% off the price for the risk that by the time your shipments are fulfilled they've stopped trading with the USA?

We are in a symbiotic relationship considering culturally, china enjoys selling things.

320 million capitalists > 40 million communists

If for some reason we are too preoccupied to buy things though... the entire power structure changes.

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 06:31 PM
If he loses Putin gets Ukraine plus something of Equal value of Musks. Defense gets to choose vs challenger something of Equal value.

Musk is just fighting for Ukraines honor. Grimes will of course back him up with a lotr sword and elf ears.

Messed up to imply 1 Grimes is equal to 1 Ukraine, even with the costume.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 06:33 PM
Another thought:

If the russians have entire malls to fill, but no western products, could China just fill them with cheep knockoffs, and create an economy that gives them as much overhead to make cutting ties with the US worth it?

Could happen actually.

starkind
03-14-2022, 06:35 PM
Messed up to imply 1 Grimes is equal to 1 Ukraine, even with the costume.

Naw Putin will say yes, u gotta do Grimes in ur side tho cuz u r a lil betch. For combat support.

Defendee gets to name who fights.

Defense, offense bids off against eachother trying 2 be kewl.


Batchall
The batchall, compound word (BATtle CHALLenge), is the ritualistic challenge of combat issued by Clan warriors, often as part of a Trial of Possession. It almost always involves the attacker announcing to the defender their identity and size of their forces, the objective of their challenge, and a request for what forces will oppose them. The defender then responds by identifying what military forces they intend to use to defend the objective and may choose the battlefield the challenge will take place on. The defender is also able to ask for a prize of equal value that the attacker must surrender should they prove victorious. Once the particulars have been agreed upon the challenge is closed with the phrase "well bargained and done" spoken by both participants. With the batchall complete the attackers and defenders then bid amongst themselves for the right to fight in the challenge, with subcommanders bidding away units, individuals or even specific weapons in an effort to win with the fewest forces, thereby preventing waste and earning personal glory.

The batchall is an integral part of the bidding practices of the Clans, a tradition born out of the early days when resources were incredibly scarce. It is seen as a sign of respect for an opponent to issue a batchall and so dishonorable opponents are not given this courtesy. Instead they may be attacked with all forces at the challenger's command without warning. During the Clan Invasion some Inner Sphere commanders used the batchall to deceive the invaders by lying about the forces they planned to use in opposing the challenge, thereby causing heavier Clan casualties or even defeat in some cases. While catching the Clans off-guard at first, it has since made many Clan commanders wary when treating with Inner Sphere forces; many have simply abandoned the batchall completely when fighting against the Inner Sphere.[1][2]

The batchall is typically begun with a specific phrase unique to each Clan.[3]

Clan Jade Falcon: "What forces dare defend this world from the steel talons of the Jade Falcon?"
Clan Wolf: "The Wolves of Kerensky have claimed this world for their own. What tame dogs defend it?"
Clan Ghost Bear: "We are Clan Ghost Bear. This world is ours. Those who dispute our claim must identify the size and location of their forces for immediate disposal."
Clan Smoke Jaguar: "The Smoke Jaguar claims this world. Identify the forces that defend it so that we from the mists of space may know on whom we pounce."

freestar
References
Field Manual: Crusader Clans, p. 13
Field Manual: Warden Clans, p. 15
Jade Falcon Sourcebook, p. 24


In this scenario Putin is defending his claim on Ukraine and Elon is the attacker challenging Putins claim to Ukraine.. Musk doesn't need to own Ukraine.

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 06:35 PM
China hates those fucking Russians, it's always something with those assholes. First they ruined the perfect ideology with piss-poor execution and then they committed the ultimate heresy of deviation. Junior partner and a major pain.

Didn't the Soviets wanted to nuke them(China) and KennedyNixon said lol I'll nuke u back if u do.

Something like that.

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 06:35 PM
Marina Ovsyannikova says out of character, 'WTB rez at siberian gulag zoneline'

lol

But seriously brave fighter Marina Oysyanniokva thats a pretty worthy dangerous choice.

starkind
03-14-2022, 06:41 PM
Another thought:

If the russians have entire malls to fill, but no western products, could China just fill them with cheep knockoffs, and create an economy that gives them as much overhead to make cutting ties with the US worth it?

Could happen actually.
Russia's population has been dipping hard. Their life expectancy and retirement age is terrible. Crimea gave them a "small population bump". Then it was hemoriging ppl again, especially females.

Russia was mortally wounded before they fired their first shot. Putin us taking Ukraine down with him. (And maybe the rest of the world).

Maybe will become a Chinese vassal. Won't be worth much except for resources tho.

Tbh. China probably wants the majority of the votes in the one world government they will focus on popularity and rebranding and play it long and patient while they restructure a little and then it's gg guys.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 06:48 PM
i read it different

china would rather america was nuked and went into civil war and they sold shit to the rest of the world without us influncing them.

starkind
03-14-2022, 06:53 PM
We live in a time in america's history where saying something like "WMDs in iraq is a lie", would result in banning you from the media.

We are fucking dead meat.

Don't talk about.

Suicide.
Rebellion.
Euthanasia.
Terrorism.
Killing people. (Especially politicians)
Living from the land, off grid.
Sustainability.
Environmentalism (real Environmentalism not carbon credits).
Freedom to associate.
Self defense.
Independence from the state.

Sometimes you will get away with it. You will get flagged tho.

Honestly how Horza got away with telling you to kill yourself baffles me.

starkind
03-14-2022, 06:54 PM
i read it different

china would rather america was nuked and went into civil war and they sold shit to the rest of the world without us influncing them.

Ya. I don't think it's going to happen tho. Plan A is hope we are truly stupid. Plan. B. Same as always.. patience. And make China great again.

I don't think stopping Russia would be stupid. We still have a lot of work to do fixing our house as well.

When you see a wounded and dangerous animal you just give it space, especially when it will die soon anyway.

China has no problem doing this. Maybe even if we threatened them worse.

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 06:57 PM
Naw Putin will say yes, u gotta do Grimes in ur side tho cuz u r a lil betch. For combat support.

Defendee gets to name who fights.

Defense, offense bids off against eachother trying 2 be kewl.



In this scenario Putin is defending his claim on Ukraine and Elon is the attacker challenging Putins claim to Ukraine.. Musk doesn't need to own Ukraine.

Ok but I don't see what else Musk has that Putin doesn't already have more of.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 06:57 PM
Oh were that stupid.

Yesterday I was out, met a great fella, military guy still in, a young guy, life ahead of him.

Just bought a house in a great town, this kid was yoked and handsome, bigly, and he got married last year and is expecting.

I asked if he would go fight in the war and he was like Oh definitely hell yea, would love to!

This guy is young, and couldnt have a more fuffiled and promising life, and he's ready to go into ww3 like t's a match of COD:Warzone

These kids today, the new America, the people that are going to push the dial in any direction.

Just dont understand the consequences like ours and the boomer generations did.

Mind you they were born hearing: Weve past the point of no return for irreversible climate disaster.

Wtf would you not want to play starwars IRL the way things are? Have you seen how fun it looks on the western pro war propaganda I mean the videos online?? The ruskies are sitting ducks!

starkind
03-14-2022, 06:58 PM
Ok but I don't see what else Musk has that Putin doesn't already have more of.

Actually useful rocket and battery tech and stuff to make drones go brrrrrrrr without dying to Crimean rabies?

Cryptography.

Foreign assets other countries depend on?

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:02 PM
who here doesnt beleive after ww3 musk is going to rebuild a neural world?

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:03 PM
Oh were that stupid.

Yesterday I was out, met a great fella, military guy still in, a young guy, life ahead of him.

Just bought a house in a great town, this kid was yoked and handsome, bigly, and he got married last year and is expecting.

I asked if he would go fight in the war and he was like Oh definitely hell yea, would love to!

This guy is young, and couldnt have a more fuffiled and promising life, and he's ready to go into ww3 like t's a match of COD:Warzone

These kids today, the new America, the people that are going to push the dial in any direction.

Just dont understand the consequences like ours and the boomer generations did.

Mind you they were born hearing: Weve past the point of no return for irreversible climate disaster.

Wtf would you not want to play starwars IRL the way things are? Have you seen how fun it looks on the western pro war propaganda I mean the videos online?? The ruskies are sitting ducks!

Maybe, ya, no butts needed.

Having sex and having a baby hasn't chemically altered bois brain yet. Give it time.

A lot of our generals and MSG still kinda old and maybe even experience as far back as Kosovo and SA.

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 07:03 PM
Actually useful rocket and battery tech and stuff to make drones go brrrrrrrr without dying to Crimean rabies?

Cryptography.

Foreign assets other countries depend on?

Musk and his ilk are a can of beans compared to nations.

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 07:06 PM
I'm not pro russia, but they know how to build rockets we use their rockets all the time for space ferry work to maintain the space station and such.

Elon musk just borrowing USA NASA IP to develop a private company with public dollars + publically funded via stock market twitter popularity to then sell us rocket services we previously provided to ourselves via NASA.


Jibartik: you were talking to a person with ideals. He hasn't been burnt out at a day job, hes in the heat of indoctrination and reaping the benefits of being in his place in the machine. There is no reason for him to doubt the machine is functional because it is working for him, and if it can work for him it can work for anyone as long as they do their part and work hard and be 24 years old and stuff.

Thats how we all do it for the most part, and thats why rich people seldom really want to change anything because after the misery they've suffered as a result of their immoral actions or whatever they figure they've earned their money to keep for themselves and if you do what it takes, you too can reap the benefits of others work.

Thats why poor people know what is broken, because they are the failed products of the system, and that is also why they ignored.

That is why change comes from the bottom up and not the top down. That is why short of all manner or violent and awful collapse our best chance is to actually unite as regular people democrat and republican and create a shared set of values and ignore the forces trying to pit us against eachtother.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:06 PM
Musk and his ilk are a can of beans compared to nations.

I'm sure he's got hardrives full of fun stuff..

Russia lose access to Jstor?

Musk is doing his thing ... he could be richer tho.

Imagine being rich without having to keep a bunch of lousy embezzlers happy.

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 07:08 PM
These kids today, the new America, the people that are going to push the dial in any direction.

Just dont understand the consequences like ours and the boomer generations did.

Mind you they were born hearing: Weve past the point of no return for irreversible climate disaster.

Wtf would you not want to play starwars IRL the way things are? Have you seen how fun it looks on the western pro war propaganda I mean the videos online?? The ruskies are sitting ducks!

https://i.imgur.com/SFFaFoi.jpg

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:09 PM
Thats why poor people know what is broken, because they are the failed products of the system, and that is also why they ignored.

That is why change comes from the bottom up and not the top down.

nice way to put it.

But I want to point out that right now the top is trying to change the bottom.

(we will neve runite though btw you dont unite 320 million people, never been done, wont happen now. The number is too high. One will eat the other sorry to say)

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 07:10 PM
Imagine being rich and having actual cash on hand rather than like infinite stocks. I guess thats why these guys don't sail into the sunset as often as you'd think you would.

Say you have a mere single billion dollars, which is a thousand millions

With a thousand millions you can have a million dollars a year budget for operating your super trimiran sailboat for one thousand years.

So we're talking jolly crewmembers flying in and out of the port cities you stop in, where you literally just do whatever you want with a full team of super grateful for their 200k / year chill ass boating jobs

And instead you like...post on twitter.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:13 PM
I'm not pro russia, but they know how to build rockets we use their rockets all the time for space ferry work to maintain the space station and such.

Elon musk just borrowing USA NASA IP to develop a private company with public dollars + publically funded via stock market twitter popularity to then sell us rocket services we previously provided to ourselves via NASA.


Jibartik: you were talking to a person with ideals. He hasn't been burnt out at a day job, hes in the heat of indoctrination and reaping the benefits of being in his place in the machine. There is no reason for him to doubt the machine is functional because it is working for him, and if it can work for him it can work for anyone as long as they do their part and work hard and be 24 years old and stuff.

Thats how we all do it for the most part, and thats why rich people seldom really want to change anything because after the misery they've suffered as a result of their immoral actions or whatever they figure they've earned their money to keep for themselves and if you do what it takes, you too can reap the benefits of others work.

Thats why poor people know what is broken, because they are the failed products of the system, and that is also why they ignored.

That is why change comes from the bottom up and not the top down. That is why short of all manner or violent and awful collapse our best chance is to actually unite as regular people democrat and republican and create a shared set of values and ignore the forces trying to pit us against eachtother.

I'm on the fence. SpaceX have nothing innovative. I think their rockets are nice tho.

There's so much more room for innovation...engines that burn iron pellets, the stuff coming out of Australia. The EU has some alright stuff.

Russia was cheeper, dirtier, more convenient. It was quickly becoming obsolete and inefficient. Plus everyone knew Putin had big problems and was treading thin ice with the sharks he was riding.

Roscomos is the laughing stock of the world. Even China is eclipsing them.

Ides of March incoming. Get ready for dat planetary alignment!

I agree about the army guy in his element. Probably never been deployed. FTXs are so badass.

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 07:18 PM
nice way to put it.

(we will neve runite though btw you dont unite 320 million people, never been done, wont happen now. The number is too high. One will eat the other sorry to say)

Yeah but its just because people choose to cuck out to $$ here is a quote from 1891 for you from Geoge MacDonald

"in general the working man is as foolish and unfit as the rich man; that he only wants to be rich, and trample on his own past...It is the poor man that gives the rich man all the pull on him, by cherishing the same feelings as the rich man concerning riches, by fancying the rich man because of his riches the greater man, and longing to be rich like him."

You're right that we can't just "get united" we have to "Get good" to have hope, or else we do in fact get exactly what we deserve, as a society, in aggregate. Corrupt scum that values money over all else.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:18 PM
Anyway science isn't what is holding innovation and development in space back. It's manufacturing and production. And practical engineering. There's still a lot of cost (and some risk) in developing the science to productivity.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:19 PM
Yeah but its just because people choose to cuck out to $$ here is a quote from 1891 for you from Geoge MacDonald

"in general the working man is as foolish and unfit as the rich man; that he only wants to be rich, and trample on his own past...It is the poor man that gives the rich man all the pull on him, by cherishing the same feelings as the rich man concerning riches, by fancying the rich man because of his riches the greater man, and longing to be rich like him."

You're right that we can't just "get united" we have to "Get good" to have hope, or else we do in fact get exactly what we deserve, as a society, in aggregate. Corrupt scum that values money over all else.

Seconded.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:20 PM
The most messed up thing I can think of is that quote applies to workers building the pyramids almost 12,000 years ago.

It's an observation about a feature, not a bug.

Im telling ya guys, it's pretty simple.

after 3 years of covid, the day after it looked like the sky was going to open up, world war 3 started.

We are in the tribulation. It's just going to get a little bit worse and worse until the sky really does open up.

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 07:23 PM
Russia was cheeper, dirtier, more convenient. It was quickly becoming obsolete and inefficient. Plus everyone knew Putin had big problems and was treading thin ice with the sharks he was riding.


You're right.

I think that hyper billionaire gang, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Facebook guy are collaborating to wipe out the democrat and republican party by encouraging sheer incompetence in all avenues, by supporting status quo serving narcissists with no interest in doing public good. The result will be misery for 80 percent of the population, and without a new green server to go (real life is red99 pvp) they are stuck on the red server in misery. Then when the megacorps come out with new megacorp housing plans with megacorp delivery systems and jobs and why not let the super efficient profitable megacorps also sell your food that they might as well grow themselves because they're so efficient, and then we've handed every public good to the care of private corporations to rule a de-facto dictators and they didn't even have to kill anyone cuz we did it for them (by killing eachother)

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:24 PM
We are in the tribulation. It's just going to get a little bit worse and worse until the sky really does open up.

Personally I feel like I'm one of those landed ladies from the Civil War era with TB.

Still praying for everyone else's salvation tho. I want my last memory to be the sweet embrace of G-d saying ssssshhh it's all over now. I've answered your prayers, Grimes went back to being fully communist and is making that Dune rewrite on meta. Sweet dreams... here's a kitten for your last moment.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:25 PM
Glad I was slaying dragons with you pal's right up to the god damn end of the world.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:27 PM
Glad I was slaying dragons with you pal's right up to the god damn end of the world.

Ya same. 🐲🍻

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 07:27 PM
Plus there will be ample self driving teslas in the new megacorp city in central butthole kansas with conveniently had an old missile base to sell to the mega corp as their beurocratic forward operating base.

And as their influence expands in a region no one gives a damn about (because it is not new york city or california coastline) they will eventually be bigger and stronger than their traditional opponents with power bases in los angeles and NYC and there you go, megacorp city 1 right in the heart of America taking care of all its people and the US government left to provide for the needs of "deviants" and obese people and to pay for foreign wars is quickly going bankrupt, while Megacorp city 1's economy is booming and their cryptocurrency Musk Tusks is valued at like 50,000/1 over the us dollar and you get a sinlge Musk Tusk per working day when you work at megacorp city 1, so everyone is just on a waiting list to gain citizenship to this way better world and economy sitting right there in the middle.

And as the US government debt is de-rated and they can no longer find people to give them loans for all the foreign wars (that facebook helped start and bolster and fan the flames) the whole of america is easy to purchase for a small percentage of the fake digital profits that all the combined megacorps have taken out of the american economy with mere twitter posts.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:28 PM
Hey back to ukraine idgaf I think what we should be doing is air lifting the fuck out of these civilians, would russia think usa airships flying people out would be intervention?

Tghat country should abandon ship

this war is going to go the way of Russia, they wont give up, they're never gonna stop Im not being pro Russian I'm being a realist do you really want 20 years war in ukraine? Just give up the best outlook is russia leavse a bunch of equipment drones a car of kids, and gives the ukraine back to the ukrainains in 20 years.

Debate me. Prove me wrong, I'd like to be. But this is awful this is going to be a genocide.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:30 PM
You're right.

I think that hyper billionaire gang, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Facebook guy are collaborating to wipe out the democrat and republican party by encouraging sheer incompetence in all avenues, by supporting status quo serving narcissists with no interest in doing public good. The result will be misery for 80 percent of the population, and without a new green server to go (real life is red99 pvp) they are stuck on the red server in misery. Then when the megacorps come out with new megacorp housing plans with megacorp delivery systems and jobs and why not let the super efficient profitable megacorps also sell your food that they might as well grow themselves because they're so efficient, and then we've handed every public good to the care of private corporations to rule a de-facto dictators and they didn't even have to kill anyone cuz we did it for them (by killing eachother)

I hope young ppl with families can slip through the cracks for awhile if they avoid chipping themselves and moving into the Arks. (Arcology)... or camps or however they decide to deal with billions on life support.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:32 PM
Hey back to ukraine idgaf I think what we should be doing is air lifting the fuck out of these civilians, would russia think usa airships flying people out would be intervention?

Tghat country should abandon ship

this war is going to go the way of Russia, they wont give up, they're never gonna stop Im not being pro Russian I'm being a realist do you really want 20 years war in ukraine? Just give up the best outlook is russia leavse a bunch of equipment drones a car of kids, and gives the ukraine back to the ukrainains in 20 years.

Debate me. Prove me wrong, I'd like to be. But this is awful this is going to be a genocide.

They won't let us. Not going to happen maybe if Isreal put it on the table and Zelenskyy or whomever says. Fine..

Very unlikely.

Russia is mining escape routes to kill civilians..who want to flee. It's another genocide. (Using stuff we developed for Vietnam..butterfly mines, etc.. stuff children like with pressure fuses that don't immediately detonate)

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 07:33 PM
Anyway science isn't what is holding innovation and development in space back. It's manufacturing and production. And practical engineering. There's still a lot of cost (and some risk) in developing the science to productivity.

I think your right, but I am pretty quickly coming full circle about space. I used to be mega pro-space because its just so much fun to push the limits of what is possible, but now I see more and more how we treat each other and our own planet like absolute shit and its laughable considering we live on the most abundant planet anyone could ever dream of that suits our needs like a literal living miracle and yet we humans decide to be dreadful enough to each other that we think the absolutely obscene thought that it might somehow be better if we GTFO and force some desert pile of a planet to barely sustain our miserable lives.

Zero effort for bettering eachother, ever.

Democrats with Obama in office: House, Senate both captured. Result: zero substantial policy passed except an illegal horse shit healthcare bill. Pure embarrassment

Republicans with Trump in office: House, Senate both captured. Result: zero substantial policy passed.

The political parties don't want to do shit for anyone. Their own platform means nothing to them as they have no interest in acting on -anything- at all except to take action to sustain their own power whenever possible with no concern for who is hurt in the process as long as the result is their sustained power.

Still we fight hate our neighbor that picks the other side

Yikes

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:38 PM
I am pretty quickly coming full circle about space. I used to be mega pro-space because its just so much fun to push the limits of what is possible, but now I see more and more how we treat each other and our own planet like absolute shit and its laughable considering we live on the most abundant planet anyone could ever dream of that suits our needs like a literal living miracle and yet we humans decide to be dreadful enough to each other that we think the absolutely obscene thought that it might somehow be better if we GTFO and force some desert pile of a planet to barely sustain our miserable lives.

Ya.

And escaping to space isn't the answer. It would biologically change the people who leave no matter where they go... it's a great way to lose our humanity.

I used to be mad that Elohim made us super simple again. They did it to preserve us though many will claim it was to use us.

Maybe it was both... pre industrial was peak performance. Esotericly.

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 07:39 PM
Hey back to ukraine idgaf I think what we should be doing is air lifting the fuck out of these civilians, would russia think usa airships flying people out would be intervention?

Tghat country should abandon ship

this war is going to go the way of Russia, they wont give up, they're never gonna stop Im not being pro Russian I'm being a realist do you really want 20 years war in ukraine? Just give up the best outlook is russia leavse a bunch of equipment drones a car of kids, and gives the ukraine back to the ukrainains in 20 years.

Debate me. Prove me wrong, I'd like to be. But this is awful this is going to be a genocide.

If it comes to Genocide, UN human rights kicks into play and the entire united nations gets to do executive overide on everything Russia and basically delete the country from global society.

That's why Putin loses in all instances. If Ukraine doesn't give up right away (they already failed to do this) Putin gets to be pure evil and sanctioned by everyone as he stomps them mercilessly. If Ukraine keeps fighting bravely, Putin keeps losing millions of dollars a day to sanctions and countries reconsider doing business with Russia which hurts every rich person in russia as much as it hurts the poor people. These guys want to do "business" which is the business of selling someone down the river, and they can't do it if they're sanctioned.

The whole worlds eyes are open and if it comes to absolute destruction and genocide the rest of the global community gets even more ability to be involved.

The threat of nukes are real but it doesn't let Putin behave like an idiot, because everyone knows his cost benefit analysis almost as well as he does, and the nukes really won't go off when he makes a cell phone call.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:40 PM
The Martians where and will not be like us.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:42 PM
I think your right, but I am pretty quickly coming full circle about space. I used to be mega pro-space because its just so much fun to push the limits of what is possible, but now I see more and more how we treat each other and our own planet like absolute shit and its laughable considering we live on the most abundant planet anyone could ever dream of that suits our needs like a literal living miracle and yet we humans decide to be dreadful enough to each other that we think the absolutely obscene thought that it might somehow be better if we GTFO and force some desert pile of a planet to barely sustain our miserable lives.

Here's a thought because I think it's valid myself.

I think before america was discovered, the same thing would have been said at churches all over England that got them to settle out here, and to move their attention outward, forging a new world, rather than inward trying to pick apart an old one.

Usually I go on about ghosts and alines, but lets just say we're moss on a rock, It stands to reason that untnil we are able to forge out across that endless ocean into the new worlds, that we are designed to consume ourselves. How else could new moss grow with no rock to grow on?

Maybe it's something we could evolve out of us, we cannot teach it though. Over generations it may become the way of life.

But I think we never will, because there is always an impassable barrier to cross and a colony to be built there and that's what we're designed to do. When we have no where to go, we seem to turn into our most feral versions of ourselves reliant on survival of the fittest.

Idk. I figure the folks on mars will be like what America was to Northern Europe, as what Northern Europe was to the Mediterranean, as to what the Mediterranean was to Egypt and on and on.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:46 PM
If it comes to Genocide, UN human rights kicks into play and the entire united nations gets to do executive overide on everything Russia and basically delete the country from global society.

Here's teh problem, the united nations are spinning the genocide as "standing their ground against the invaders trying to take their democracy"

We're rooting for it. The ones you say are there to stop it. They are the ones encouraging it.

When do you say, hey its time for us all to join when it's 15,000 people a year? 30? A bad year of 50?

Or do we keep doing what were doing, for 20 years?

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:49 PM
Here's a thought because I think it's valid myself.

I think before america was discovered, the same thing would have been said at churches all over England that got them to settle out here, and to move their attention outward, forging a new world, rather than inward trying to pick apart an old one.

Usually I go on about ghosts and alines, but lets just say we're moss on a rock, It stands to reason that untnil we are able to forge out across that endless ocean into the new worlds, that we are designed to consume ourselves. How else could new moss grow with no rock to grow on?

Maybe it's something we could evolve out of us, we cannot teach it though. Over generations it may become the way of life.

But I think we never will, because there is always an impassable barrier to cross and a colony to be built there and that's what we're designed to do. When we have no where to go, we seem to turn into our most feral versions of ourselves reliant on survival of the fittest.

Idk. I figure the folks on mars will be like what America was to Northern Europe, as what Northern Europe was to the Mediterranean, as to what the Mediterranean was to Egypt and on and on.

I have no idea how much biology could effect psychology, and in turn culture.

Matians will be weird AF tho. From the gravity alone.

Only G-d knows how living underground off hydroponics in highly instutionalized facilities would ultimately change us. And if we started terriforming and adapting to the rareified atmosphere...

Titan. Is the best candidate tho. So much energy and plenty of organic chemistry.

Most other places are severe radiation hazards.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:50 PM
Im sure we'd evolve to look all wonky looking.

I saw an awesome video of a chick talkinga bout octopusses

and she 3D printed a shell for them, and was saying they used to have shells, but they abandoned them as they became more intelligent.

They traded fragility for agility. It allowed them to experience more things and helped project their future evolution forward.

She said its like us, we left behind our stronger ape ancestors and became more adaptable. Just like octoups.

Im sure given the option to trade our physical bodies for the wonders of the radiation filled voids of space will give way to an evolutionary step like the one that took us from the jungle to the concrete jungle.

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:52 PM
Here's teh problem, the united nations are spinning the genocide as "standing their ground against the invaders trying to take their democracy"

We're rooting for it. The ones you say are there to stop it. They are the ones encouraging it.

When do you say, hey its time for us all to join when it's 15,000 people a year? 30? A bad year of 50?

Or do we keep doing what were doing, for 20 years?

Ya. They will move the slider towards "Taliban" and insurgency...no one cares about the kids who aren't insurgents yet. Or that pregnant lady who bled out from shrapnel killing both her and child.

The U.N. will remain mostly neutral. Maybe ppl will still try to sell the Ukrainians weapons..

Russians will collectively live with a wounded heart. Suicides will become a major problem. Until enough generations are born... G-d said many generations.

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 07:54 PM
No ones inbox would be safe from creepy PM's then.

:D

I love those pms

starkind
03-14-2022, 07:55 PM
U guys should see my inbox.

Gustoo
03-14-2022, 08:11 PM
If I was in charge of the forum I'd close the thread with that comment.

It's not a genocidal situation because you don't have entire civilian populations collected and executed. Right now it is two nations fighting. One a clear bad guy, the other a clear good guy defending themself.

If the good guy gets knocked all the way down, government is no longer active, and russia is all over Ukraine and murdering everyone willy nilly its a different story.

But as you know Ukrainian refugees are being assisted, so its a bit weird where it seems western powers are OK for Ukraine to be a warzone. Not sure what the ideal end game is for say, Germany.

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 08:32 PM
Democrats with Obama in office: House, Senate both captured. Result: zero substantial policy passed except an illegal horse shit healthcare bill.

Illegal horse shit it may be, but it made Sovereign Sam more solvent.

That's who they serve.

Reiwa
03-14-2022, 08:33 PM
Here's teh problem, the united nations are spinning the genocide as "standing their ground against the invaders trying to take their democracy"

We're rooting for it. The ones you say are there to stop it. They are the ones encouraging it.

When do you say, hey its time for us all to join when it's 15,000 people a year? 30? A bad year of 50?

Or do we keep doing what were doing, for 20 years?

Speaking of illegal horse shit, many would like to kick Russia out of the security council as a permanent member. No more global vetoes for the backwater gas station. 😎🍦

Jibartik
03-14-2022, 08:41 PM
I wonder if this is the final form of the NWO and we are going to completely dick break Russia and china is gonna close its anus and sit down and join up and then, we get the capitol in astana.

Part of me thinks that if Russia even tried a nuke launch they'd blow up 80% of their own ass before even getting the other 20 in the air.

edit: whoa saw this:

If I was in charge of the forum I'd close the thread with that comment.

If you're capable of that type of thinking then maybe yea we'll never see eye to eye! Sorry you feel that way about what I said.

I am truelly disguested at my fellow americans talking about silencing the type of talk like there is no uranium in iraq. How far from grace we've fallen.

but such is the tribulation.

Well, off to tiktok!

starkind
03-14-2022, 08:45 PM
Nur-Sultan.

It is really pretty tho! 🤩🍷

starkind
03-14-2022, 08:47 PM
edit: whoa saw this:



If you're capable of that type of thinking then maybe yea we'll never see eye to eye! Sorry you feel that way about what I said.

I am truelly disguested at my fellow americans talking about silencing the type of talk like there is no uranium in iraq. How far from grace we've ...

Well, off to tiktok!

That comment wasn't directed atchu.

unsunghero
03-14-2022, 08:57 PM
In regards to (trigger warning) diplomacy, I haven’t been following it that well, but from what I’ve heard Ukraine not joining NATO is now no longer enough

I believe Putin’s terms were to annex (or w/e the term) those parts of Ukraine he intended to liberate, including that port city, as Russia. So basically like splitting the country in half. Pretty harsh terms

Although ya as Jib mentioned, when they’ve been fighting over the rubble for nearly a year those terms might become more appealing I dunno

starkind
03-14-2022, 09:12 PM
The price of Russia getting what it wants is going to be super high for everyone.

Is it Zelenskyy's fault? Would that have not just enabled Russia further just so we could sleep better at night with $3.50 gas. We were going to be punished by the oil suppliers anyway. Ukraine is just super convenient.

The Ukrainians are the biggest victims here. They didn't deserve to be wedged between Russia and NATO.

Thread is full circle to page one
..

I honestly didn't believe Ukraine would resist at all.

There's no way I can change that now. I was wrong. I wanted everyone to try to avoid bloodshed and for Russia to have a chance to change from within without a collapse. I was willing to tolerate them. Because many Russians deserved tolerance. Despite their government and the circumstances of their subservience.

Ukraine deserves the least suffering tho. It appears their people are truly devout and honorable. How else do they acquit themselves so well? American weapons and training only goes so far. Ukraine has gone much further. Inspite of our politics. And NATOs.

Patriam1066
03-14-2022, 09:32 PM
In regards to (trigger warning) diplomacy, I haven’t been following it that well, but from what I’ve heard Ukraine not joining NATO is now no longer enough

I believe Putin’s terms were to annex (or w/e the term) those parts of Ukraine he intended to liberate, including that port city, as Russia. So basically like splitting the country in half. Pretty harsh terms

Although ya as Jib mentioned, when they’ve been fighting over the rubble for nearly a year those terms might become more appealing I dunno
It’s a terrible precedent to allow nuclear powers to change borders by force. We should never end sanctions on Russia as long as they are not a democracy, whatever the terms. No Russians owning property in our countries, no cleaning their dirty kleptocratic money in our banks, etc. To allow them to get away with this basically cedes Taiwan to China.

It is quite clear, however, in a conventional military conflict they’d get obliterated by US. Hell, I bet the NYPD could do some damage to the Russian army

Patriam1066
03-14-2022, 09:34 PM
Here's teh problem, the united nations are spinning the genocide as "standing their ground against the invaders trying to take their democracy"

We're rooting for it. The ones you say are there to stop it. They are the ones encouraging it.

When do you say, hey its time for us all to join when it's 15,000 people a year? 30? A bad year of 50?

Or do we keep doing what were doing, for 20 years?

You’re saying the Ukrainians are committing genocide? Man dude you’re really on the Russian koolaid. How poor are you that you’re this easily swayed?

Patriam1066
03-14-2022, 09:36 PM
Hey back to ukraine idgaf I think what we should be doing is air lifting the fuck out of these civilians, would russia think usa airships flying people out would be intervention?

Tghat country should abandon ship

this war is going to go the way of Russia, they wont give up, they're never gonna stop Im not being pro Russian I'm being a realist do you really want 20 years war in ukraine? Just give up the best outlook is russia leavse a bunch of equipment drones a car of kids, and gives the ukraine back to the ukrainains in 20 years.

Debate me. Prove me wrong, I'd like to be. But this is awful this is going to be a genocide.

No, people should fight for their country. You aren’t a patriot so you wouldn’t understand, but once 100,000 Russians are dead and a new Russian revolution skull fucks Putin on red square, everyone on planet earth who isn’t you or xi xinping will be smiling

Slava Ukraini, what a brave people

Topgunben
03-14-2022, 10:43 PM
It’s a terrible precedent to allow nuclear powers to change borders by force. We should never end sanctions on Russia as long as they are not a democracy, whatever the terms. No Russians owning property in our countries, no cleaning their dirty kleptocratic money in our banks, etc. To allow them to get away with this basically cedes Taiwan to China.

It is quite clear, however, in a conventional military conflict they’d get obliterated by US. Hell, I bet the NYPD could do some damage to the Russian army

Agreed. We should sanction them for as long as it takes.

I also think we need to stop trading with China, but that’s just me.

Jibartik
03-15-2022, 01:40 AM
You’re saying the Ukrainians are committing genocide? Man dude you’re really on the Russian koolaid. How poor are you that you’re this easily swayed?

no you're saying that.

Im saying youre commiting it with the post above this one I quoted here with that war mongering.

Jibartik
03-15-2022, 01:42 AM
No, people should fight for their country. You aren’t a patriot so you wouldn’t understand, but once 100,000 Russians are dead and a new Russian revolution skull fucks Putin on red square, everyone on planet earth who isn’t you or xi xinping will be smiling

Slava Ukraini, what a brave people

you dont know anything about me and by adding all this color to what I said it's clear youre describing a phantom you are afraid of.

if you were not so afraid you wouldnt jump to such threatened conclusions everytime you reply to one of my posts.

just once Id like to hear you say "what do you mean?"

just once.

you think you have everything figured out, that just means youre afraid of eveything you accuse people of.