View Full Version : Possible for Ukraine to beat back Russia?
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 01:51 AM
Eh, revolution in Russia is way more dangerous than war in Ukraine.
Would be funny tho 😂
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:09 AM
never ever ever ever ever gonna happen lol
this is literally the presidents, the greatest power in the world, the man whos job it is to stop this shit from happening as the helm of the global ship.
this is litearlly his BEST plan right now lololol
care taking lololo!!!!
Jimjam
03-15-2022, 02:10 AM
The only thing worse for Russia than Putin could be Putin’t.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:12 AM
"what is our plan, with the greatest military might and spending on on the planet for over 100 years mr president?"
*takes a lick of icecream "We hope their liberal kids use protests overtake the 20 year old dictatorship born out of the ashes of soviet union"
I am fricken dyin lol
starkind
03-15-2022, 02:17 AM
You got any bullet points for how you'd personally command US through these dark times?
BTW. I'm catching some Zzzz. I'll check back tomorrow! Nns!
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:21 AM
- bring back trump
- trump tells putin bro to settle down
- putinbro settles down
- we all go back to normal
- have to listen to racist jokes again is teh only cost for peace
- a price must be paid sacrafce made
- balance restored
Horza
03-15-2022, 02:44 AM
- bring back trump
lol
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:59 AM
4 years of peace between 2 wars 1 world war lol ok nice job dude! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzSvabdU2rc&t=248s)
(before you think this is a conspiracy or biased video this is isnt even a political video, it's a video about what Michael Burry has been investing in the last 3 months and it just so happens to implicate biden in what I can only say is orchestrating world war 3 for profit.)
its from feb 7 and predicts the war through his investments without even mentioning the troop buildup or Russian activity once.
Diana_Welch
03-15-2022, 05:53 AM
Ukraine will never defeat Russia if you have a President (Zelensky) who only seeks profit. If you are not stupid, why would you join NATO that will arise conflict with Russia right? And Biden is so dumb that he sanctioned the oil from Russia which makes everybody go wild.
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Gustoo
03-15-2022, 10:31 AM
I’m loving these Fox News talking points I’ve never been so strongly against their stuff as to not see the logic at-all
But this is some left field stuff making connections that are very unnatural.
Only way Trump would get Putin to do anything is by giving him millions of your dollars and the passwords to the Zion mainframe.
BlackBellamy
03-15-2022, 10:48 AM
you dont know anything about me
actually we know a lot about you
thirteen thousands posts buddy
i don't know how tall you are but i know every single thought that goes through your head
how tall are you so my knowledge is complete?
BlackBellamy
03-15-2022, 11:02 AM
Looking for devs. Must have body armor and be willing to code in a trench.
Thinking of doing 128 vs 128 team battles and 64 player death matches. Was going to license the Unreal engine but I think Real Virtuality from BI would give it a more realistic look.
The kicker is going to be the strategic layer. Battles will be generated depending on players managing supplies flowing form the west versus merciless yet low quality Syrians arriving from the south.
Each battle won by the Blue side will generate No-Fly Zone points, and every battle the Red side wins will also generate No-Fly Zone points. Once the No-Fly Zone begins the entire map will be covered by nuclear explosions and the campaign will reset.
Thoughts? Ideas? Resumes?
https://i.imgur.com/ZlLV3Yr.jpg
BlackBellamy
03-15-2022, 11:09 AM
Just looking at that map above you can see two classic military blunders which are taught in every single military academy since Frederick the Great and certainly since Napoleon.
1) March separately and fight together.
2) The army that operates on interior lines has a decisive operational advantage.
The Russians march separately and fight separately and they just threw #2 right into the toilet like it didn't matter.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 11:12 AM
actually we know a lot about you
thirteen thousands posts buddy
i don't know how tall you are but i know every single thought that goes through your head
how tall are you so my knowledge is complete?
You seem to think your own penis is bigger with this. You don’t even know your own body.
You know nothing Lebowski
By your argument horza has me figured out.
13k posts and you illiterate retards still think I’m your daddy, is more like it.
10k of those posts are history channel episodes basically.
You think Spider-Man is real too?
Hope this helps (it won’t)
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 11:17 AM
Orange Super Prez - No New Wars. Cheap Gas. Great Economy.
Joey Diapers - Lost war in Afghanistan. Left in defeat and disgrace. Cold War 2 and possibly WW3 soon. All within the first 1.5 years of his failed presidency
Even half of Biden voters askin for a mulligan
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 11:18 AM
I’m loving these Fox News talking points I’ve never been so strongly against their stuff as to not see the logic at-all
But this is some left field stuff making connections that are very unnatural.
Only way Trump would get Putin to do anything is by giving him millions of your dollars and the passwords to the Zion mainframe.
Last time he withheld 400million military spending g and there were no wars.
You people are all worshiping the beast.
It’s only a matter of time before I’m going to disconnect from online because you’re going to arrest me like the kremlin arrests anti war posters over there.
You people legit scare me now.
Antichrist is walking the earth.
You people are going to be war mongers until every Ukrainian is dead.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 11:37 AM
We. Are. All. Going. To. Die.
It’s us or them.
So it will be us all.
Mblake1981
03-15-2022, 11:42 AM
We. Are. All. Going. To. Die.
It’s us or them.
So it will be us all.
https://i.imgur.com/VZ9iMLA.jpg
starkind
03-15-2022, 12:07 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VZ9iMLA.jpg
+1
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 12:10 PM
yea yea ill be there when they finally shut down the internet to keep us in line.
Horza
03-15-2022, 01:00 PM
Last time he withheld 400million military spending g and there were no wars.
As we all know now, appeasement also failed to stop Hitler despite the best hopes of cowardly morons like yourself.
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 01:07 PM
You people legit scare me now.
Tell me how the pro-war republican party reversing its course when it comes to war with Russia is not a concern for you.
Tell me how it would be better for Trump to be in office and support all of Putin's talking points, and perhaps convince the international community to leave Ukraine without allies and possibly negotiate giving away more territory to Russia again by threat of unprovoked aggression from Russia?
Please explain how the US state department and the international community is taking a wrong stance right now.
Please explain what the right stance would be towards Russia invading their neighbors.
Thank you
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 01:09 PM
Tell me how the pro-war republican party reversing its course when it comes to war with Russia is not a concern for you.
Tell me how it would be better for Trump to be in office and support all of Putin's talking points, and perhaps convince the international community to leave Ukraine without allies and possibly negotiate giving away more territory to Russia again by threat of unprovoked aggression from Russia?
Please explain how the US state department and the international community is taking a wrong stance right now.
Please explain what the right stance would be towards Russia invading their neighbors.
Thank you
Folks are weary of war man
We don't need a war with Russia right now.. oh wait NM too late
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 01:16 PM
Tell me how the pro-war republican party reversing its course when it comes to war with Russia is not a concern for you.
Tell me how it would be better for Trump to be in office and support all of Putin's talking points, and perhaps convince the international community to leave Ukraine without allies and possibly negotiate giving away more territory to Russia again by threat of unprovoked aggression from Russia?
Please explain how the US state department and the international community is taking a wrong stance right now.
Please explain what the right stance would be towards Russia invading their neighbors.
Thank you
I think you have to *split heir's to take that position. Azovs are bad dude.
*Only Jimjam can do that
Horza
03-15-2022, 01:17 PM
Folks are weary of war man
We don't need a war with Russia right now.. oh wait NM too late
Tucker Carlson 2019: "Why do I care what's going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? And I'm serious. And why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which I am."
Tucker Carlson 2022: "Who's siding with Putin? I haven't seen anybody do that."
unsunghero
03-15-2022, 01:18 PM
Folks are weary of war man
We don't need a war with Russia right now.. oh wait NM too late
I think it’s fair to say that anyone calling for war should also be required to say that they will go fight in it personally
That’s how I’ve considered my stance on war
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 01:20 PM
Tucker Carlson 2019: "Why do I care what's going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? And I'm serious. And why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which I am."
Tucker Carlson 2022: "Who's siding with Putin? I haven't seen anybody do that."
lol Horza in full warmonger mode cuz tv said so
Baaaaahhhh! Baaaaaaah!
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 01:23 PM
Tell me how the pro-war republican party reversing its course when it comes to war with Russia is not a concern for you.
what scares me is how the left is embracing silencing anyone who does not agree with the war. Politicans are beign called putin spies if they so much as question where the information is coming from.
Every video i see is 48 hours too old, and through the lense of western propaganda. I posted a totally pro war front page reddit post of literal neo nazi war criminals, like they were ukrainian hero's. We're completely behind an iron curtain of propaganda strung by our own goverment and people.
Its like covid, but the people who are afraid of rockign the boat think rocking the boat means you're supporting hitler, literally, and a threat, and its war. It's a scary alt right reaction towards information and debate and its now coming at me from all sides. So Im terrified to be honest.
We dont have freedom of speech in this country, we have a culture that embraces it, and I'm watching it embrace the opposite. For the greater good.
Tell me how it would be better for Trump
It would be another 4 years of Russia too afraid that trump would drop the full power of the US military on him, just like the last 4 years.
(tell me how trump supporting) all of Putin's talking points, and perhaps convince the international community to leave Ukraine without allies and possibly negotiate giving away more territory to Russia again by threat of unprovoked aggression from Russia?
Putin is a reality. He isn't someone you get to "vote out" or have "any say in".. you think that this "is going to get rid of him" but you are wrong. The difference between here is I am willing to accept that. I am willing to admit that yeah, kissing the bosses ass is part of the job. It's part of life.
How about you tell me how the world is better with 20 million less ukrainians and russians, than say it was, in 2018?
Because I think 2018 is better than 20 million dead Ukrainians not to mention the damage we're doing to ourselves over this.
Because I think open trade with russians, is worth cowtowing to their small penis leader.
Because russia was making progress, and now all of that progress is gone. Forever.
Please explain how the US state department and the international community is taking a wrong stance right now.
Because it's obvious russia is not going to stop. We should be evacuating everyone.
They should have moved 2x the troops putin did to the bordr when Biden was saying that they'd still have to think about what to do, or was telling people to evacuate. They should have said that if russia sets foot on ukraine world war 3 would start for them. Like trump would have.
The way you talk to a klingon is like a klingon. Doesnt anyone here watch startrek?!?!?
They will do this for 7 years, 10, 20. We've shown the world that a 20 year war is ok. We were born after a 10 year one. Russia has shown what they are willing to do and are capable of in syria. This is going to be no different.
Please explain what the right stance would be towards Russia invading their neighbors.
We should be evacuating the country. The Ukraine is lost.
The absolute best case scenario is ukraine wins. If that happens we're going to see a civil war between like 5 exceptionally armed neo-nazi tribes unlike the world has ever seen before.
Thank you
I'd like to hear you explain why life today is better than it would be with trump.
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 01:38 PM
The president is not the most important part of the democracy. The people are. Life is the same as it was with trump except our president is not an overt slime ball rapist easy to buy gold plated loser. Biden is a spineless politician known for exaggerating and known for not being able to talk for 7 years straight when he was VP, but at least our allies don't expect us to fucking turn tail and abandon them or other random acts of haphazardness. At least our state department isn't being fire-saled. Please explain how trump administration firing career successful awesome statespeople that have strengthened allegiances globally is a good thing? Like literally these are the worst acts of treason I can even imagine I bet Putin still has a hardon from these acts and it probably only cost him like 100k dollars and 1 month of agreeing not to threaten new blackmail against trump and his family lol
You said it yourself people are acting really scary these days.
I agree regarding hella delayed bullshit news out of Ukraine. Whenever I try to look something up its basically fuck-all nonsense maybe a meme post by the prez of Ukraine or maybe some war analysis from a would-be youtube analyst.
You're right that the pro-war messaging is incredibly strong.
The -odd- part is what we see from fucks like Tucker as quoted above by Horza. These are real quotes dude.
Tucker Carlson 2019: "Why do I care what's going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? And I'm serious. And why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which I am."
Tucker Carlson 2022: "Who's siding with Putin? I haven't seen anybody do that."
Why has a certain section of our country been gobbling Putin nutsack since Trump came into power with his Russian bride.com and dropping fanboy praise of the russian strongman?
To me it's a simple matter of the fact that Appeasement already didn't work. The international community allowed Russia to roll in and bring their brand of poverty to Ukraine's crimean peninsula.
I don't see how it possibly makes sense to hope that helping the rest of Ukraine roll over to Russia is going to make the world a better more peaceful place? Russia is bringing war, it's just a matter of when you decide to stop them, when the futures being destroyed begin to matter to the west.
It's also a matter of international perception, if the west leaves Ukraine to die maybe Russia really is strong enough to just do whatever they please (as they did and got away with in Crimea) and all the previous Russian satellite countries will be trying to make deals to keep from also being invaded, knowing that the west has abandoned them.
And I don't think the west should abandon them.
Ukraine is evacuating. At least from the days old meme posts I've seen, it's men and families walking one way and then men alone walking the other way to do their duty.
I am still trying to understand how you think that saying "OK Putin, you want, Ukraine, take it, darn you!" and just what? Hoping he doesn't continue to act aggressively to neighbors?
I'm really baffled and i'm not seeing an explanation.
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 01:41 PM
what scares me is how the left is embracing silencing anyone who does not agree with the war. Politicans are beign called putin spies if they so much as question where the information is coming from.
Every video i see is 48 hours too old, and through the lense of western propaganda. I posted a totally pro war front page reddit post of literal neo nazi war criminals, like they were ukrainian hero's. We're completely behind an iron curtain of propaganda strung by our own goverment and people.
Its like covid, but the people who are afraid of rockign the boat think rocking the boat means you're supporting hitler, literally, and a threat, and its war. It's a scary alt right reaction towards information and debate and its now coming at me from all sides. So Im terrified to be honest.
We dont have freedom of speech in this country, we have a culture that embraces it, and I'm watching it embrace the opposite. For the greater good.
It would be another 4 years of Russia too afraid that trump would drop the full power of the US military on him, just like the last 4 years.
Putin is a reality. He isn't someone you get to "vote out" or have "any say in".. you think that this "is going to get rid of him" but you are wrong. The difference between here is I am willing to accept that. I am willing to admit that yeah, kissing the bosses ass is part of the job. It's part of life.
How about you tell me how the world is better with 20 million less ukrainians and russians, than say it was, in 2018?
Because I think 2018 is better than 20 million dead Ukrainians not to mention the damage we're doing to ourselves over this.
Because I think open trade with russians, is worth cowtowing to their small penis leader.
Because russia was making progress, and now all of that progress is gone. Forever.
Because it's obvious russia is not going to stop. They will do this for 7 years, 10, 20. We've shown the world that a 20 year war is ok. We were born after a 10 year one. Russia has shown what they are willing to do and are capable of in syria. This is going to be no different.
We should be evacuating the country. The Ukraine is lost.
You're welcome. But I'd like to hear you explain why life today is better tahn trump and
Great Post
I'm tired of war. I didn't like the endless wars in the ME and I don't like this situation in Ukraine with Russia. The vast majority of those bloodthirsty for war with Russia over Ukraine can't even find it on a map.
Biden left Afghanistan with dishonor. Why do folks think suddenly he is going to become a great wartime leader? The guy obviously has dementia and someone else is pulling the strings. So now Dems are gambling the value of our dollar to engage in a new cold war with Russia and right now that gamble isn't paying off. Not only that, but Biden and his cronies continue to push totally insane energy policies further spiking the cost of said energy.
Biden voters are the most simple minded fools imaginable. There are no excuses for his failures. They own them as much as he does. The Horza trollin just comes across as a limp dick now and he's been reduced to a few of the same one liners and a scapegoat or two like Tucker or Trump, completely oblivious to the rage out there in the real world cuz he still rides a bike and has never owned a car
The Trump years were relatively peaceful. No new wars. Cheap Gas. Great Economy.
Horza
03-15-2022, 01:45 PM
The Horza trollin just comes across as a limp dick now and he's been reduced to a few of the same one liners and a scapegoat or two like Tucker or Trump, completely oblivious to the rage out there in the real world cuz he still rides a bike and has never owned a car
I've been making the same sort of one liners about Tucker since before you made that account hth paste eater.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 01:46 PM
The -odd- part is what we see from fucks like Tucker as quoted above by Horza. These are real quotes dude.
Tucker Carlson 2019: "Why do I care what's going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? And I'm serious. And why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which I am."
Tucker Carlson 2022: "Who's siding with Putin? I haven't seen anybody do that."
My first argument is, you could find 2 quotes from me here and make me sound like I am two totally different people. And yo uculd o the same for tucker.
Im so sick and tired of being mislabeled by you and horza and everyone else, and then for you to try to convince me that your label of tucker, or putin, or trump is accurate.
BB talking about 12k posts and in 12k posts people think Im pro putin. After 12k american nationalist posts. It's disgusting.
How could you possibly think I would believe what you say about tucker? A guy you seem to not understand AT ALL...
Why has a certain section of our country been gobbling Putin nutsack since Trump came into power with his Russian bride.com and dropping fanboy praise of the russian strongman?
Because everythign i say, you think is gobbling putins nutsack, which is literally the point of everything I say.
It's like a perpetual motion machine of outrage. No matter what I say, is propaganda.
No matter what tucker says, you're going to take the 2 1 sentence out of context quotes 3 years apart and not even try to understand them, instead ask people to counter YOUR narrative about them..
It's also a matter of international perception, if the west leaves Ukraine to die maybe Russia really is strong enough to just do whatever they please (as they did and got away with in Crimea) and all the previous Russian satellite countries will be trying to make deals to keep from also being invaded, knowing that the west has abandoned them.
The west WILL leave ukraine to die.
And I don't think the west should abandon them.
Then go. Now! While you can chose to. Instead of siting here asking others to die for you, until we BOTH have to go.
I am still trying to understand how you think that saying "OK Putin, you want, Ukraine, take it, darn you!" and just what? Hoping he doesn't continue to act aggressively to neighbors?
Because I know that has happened 4x times in the last 1000 years. One more time will save millions of lives. Millions. Tens of millions.
We failed before teh war started, we lost, diplomacy would have stopped it from the onset. It starting was the loss. It's time to admit that and go home. We let it happen. We can't stop it.
We hoped for a week that it would work out in our favor. But it's not going to.
We WONT stop it.
And the war machine will make TRILLIONS.\
It's time to save lives, and then try to negotiate a non nato ukrane after.
unsunghero
03-15-2022, 01:48 PM
I just don’t see how Russia takes Ukraine, then holds Ukraine through the constant NATO-backed insurrections that would follow, then moves on to take other Baltic states near Ukraine, then leaves troops behind to successfully hold those
All while being sanctioned by the entire world sans China/India. Even China has been pleading for Russia to accept diplomacy
I just don’t see it
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 01:49 PM
The Trump years were relatively peaceful. No new wars. Cheap Gas. Great Economy.
He almost brought our broiling civil war to a full boil, geez.
Biden didn't start Ukraine / Russian conflict.
I am genuinely surprised people are already looking back with fondness at the actual worst president you could have. I'd take anyone working in any fast food restaurant as president and personally volunteer to sacrifice my life to protect their tenure as president over Trump (or biden for that matter) at least with a random fast food employee you're rolling the dice for a good leader versus guaranteed shit.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 01:54 PM
He almost brought our broiling civil war to a full boil, geez.
Biden didn't start Ukraine / Russian conflict.
I am genuinely surprised people are already looking back with fondness at the actual worst president you could have. I'd take anyone working in any fast food restaurant as president and personally volunteer to sacrifice my life to protect their tenure as president over Trump (or biden for that matter) at least with a random fast food employee you're rolling the dice for a good leader versus guaranteed shit.
The only reason you think that is because you refuse to listen to anyone who doesnt say that.
I dead to rights think he started it. he failed his job as comander and cheif.
Biden left Afghanistan with dishonor. Why do folks think suddenly he is going to become a great wartime leader?
He failed the negotiations with Russia at best.
And he did it on purpose to help the war machine at worst.
You people at this point think he single handedly carried every baby out of Afghanistan and there were zero faults with that evacuation.
And your image of the start of this invasion is the same.
He was on TV literally flubbing his lines saying if it was a minor incursion well uhh idk duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe idk Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.....
vs "I will ram a nuke right up his ass if he even looks at ukraine because im god damn donald trump" while putin thinks "jeeze even his own people think he's serious, ok ok I guess we'll have to wait 4 years"
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 01:55 PM
Jib - the nutsack gobbling is hyperbole. The supporting of Putin is inexplicable so for many warrants hyperbole.
You're saying you don't want war yet you seem to be saying you support giving the war aggressor what they want in hopes that they will stop killing people.
You're saying diplomacy has failed, meaning what? Since the global community failed to provide adequate carrots or sticks to keep an aging strongman from trying to invade and take over his neighbor, that we then should throw in the towel immediately?
War is a gamble. Putin chose to gamble that Ukraine would probably give up quickly with minimum support. He's losing big bucks now. War now versus how many years of suffering under totalitarian rule for Ukraine? War now in order to buy the CHANCE at making Ukraine a better place for posterity.
The alternative is guaranteeing Ukraine is a poor country being robbed by Russian bandits at every turn. Ukraine isn't a great country, but when they are independent of Russia they have a chance.
The people of Ukraine have chosen to fight rather than abandon their future for "peace" under Moscow rule. Do you understand how that decision process happens?
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 01:58 PM
vs "I will ram a nuke right up his ass if he even looks at ukraine because im god damn donald trump" while putin thinks "jeeze even his own people think he's serious, ok ok I guess we'll have to wait 4 years"
But we know that trump would never make such a threat to Putin, its hilarious to even imagine such a thing.
And from someone who is being anti-war you are saying we should have threatened utter destruction if war acts were carried out by Russia? Classic brinksmanship? That is a very pro-war stance you need to be ready to throw in HEAVY if someone calls your bluff. It can't be a bluff.
How is threatening nuclear death somehow better than what we are doing? What do you do when he still invades? Putin knows as well as we do that we aren't going to launch nukes at russia over something like this, so why rattle sabers like a fool?
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:00 PM
You're saying diplomacy has failed, meaning what?
Biden: duhhhh Duhhhh idk what we'll do if its minor idk.. duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
War is a gamble.
Biden: lets gamble they win!
3 weeks later: hmm they are not :(
Putin chose to gamble that Ukraine would probably give up quickly
He chose this, because his ace up his sleeve was if it wasnt quick, they would just kill them all slowly.
The alternative is guaranteeing Ukraine is a poor country being robbed by Russian bandits at every turn.
I want you to spend the rest of the day looking at the ukrainan economy, where it was headed, and how we've helped it specifically in the last 14 years.
The people of Ukraine have chosen to fight
Males are not allowed to leave.
More than half the military organizations right now are headed by actual neo Nazi Ukrainian political parties that is not propaganda that is what ukrane has been dealing with since 2004
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 02:01 PM
Regarding Tucker. If you watch fox news, CNN, or NBC, and can still eat dinner afterwards, you are desensitized to visual audio poison and I can only pray for your psyche. He is like any non fact presenting talking head on any mainstream news and has nothing of value to contribute to your life or mine, so why engage with such trash at all?
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 02:03 PM
How does any of these facts mean that Ukraine should be taken over by russia?
But I am interested to see the neo nazi political party info I haven't heard that except from Putin himself. Is there a place where this is documented in some way? I realize that the internet is not exactly abundant with any actual information but anything you can share I welcome.
Regarding Ukraine economy - as has been noted, the west already left them to be fucked during Crimea and had no plans to do anything for them at all. Their economy is theirs and their fate they choose as best they can. They are choosing not to be taken over by Russia and they are choosing to try to make their country something better than it has been in recent memory. Or at least staying independently poor.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:04 PM
Regarding Tucker. If you watch fox news, CNN, or NBC, and can still eat dinner afterwards, you are desensitized to visual audio poison and I can only pray for your psyche. He is like any non fact presenting talking head on any mainstream news and has nothing of value to contribute to your life or mine, so why engage with such trash at all?
tell me you've been activated without telling me youve been acivated
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:05 PM
But I am interested to see the neo nazi political party info I haven't heard that except from Putin himself. Is there a place where this is documented in some way? I realize that the internet is not exactly abundant with any actual information but anything you can share I welcome.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Cn3oouV5GZoQ/
How does any of these facts mean that Ukraine should be taken over by russia?
The fact that ukraine shoudl be taken over by russia is more like this:
The only way to stop that is with 20 million ukranian and russian lives, or 20 million ukrainan and russian lives + 10 million or more from all over the world.
Or even worse, everyone in the world.
Imagine the crisis in 5 years if half our ocean is radiated.
Lose.
Effing.
Lose.
The only way to win is to bluff it from happening. Mr poopy pants couldn't. So it's time to accept the loss.
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 02:07 PM
tell me you've been activated without telling me youve been acivated
What does this mean?
unsunghero
03-15-2022, 02:07 PM
Regarding Tucker. If you watch fox news, CNN, or NBC, and can still eat dinner afterwards, you are desensitized to visual audio poison and I can only pray for your psyche. He is like any non fact presenting talking head on any mainstream news and has nothing of value to contribute to your life or mine, so why engage with such trash at all?
I listened to his last few segments, his most recent one I listened to while cleaning my house, it’s about 20 minutes. I won’t bother to link them but none of them that I listened to are nearly as bad as people make them out to be
His last one is “maybe this isn’t a crazy idea”, and it’s in regards to Zelenskyy floating the idea of diplomacy with Russia on the terms that Ukraine doesn’t join NATO. If anything it could be called a semi-waste since I don’t believe that those are Russia’s terms, just ones that Zelenskyy has proposed to Russia last week in an attempt to stop the war
Then Tucker goes on to sarcastically say that anyone who mentions diplomacy is dismissed as a Putin sympathizer or agent, and that many public figures have called Tucker treasonous, which I believe carries a death penalty or something similar. And this shows how we are NOT Russia, how we are better than Russia. Then he sarcastically talks about how Tulsi Gabbard was also called treasonous, for claiming that there were biolabs in Ukraine or something. And then explains how these labs were proven to exist
That’s about it, those are the bullet points that I can recall to save anyone from watching
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 02:09 PM
The fact that ukraine shoudl be taken over by russia is more like this:
The only way to stop that is with 20 million ukranian and russian lives, or 20 million ukrainan and russian lives + 10 million or more from all over the world.
Or even worse, everyone in the world.
Imagine the crisis in 5 years if half our ocean is radiated.
Lose.
Effing.
Lose.
Okay so Ukraine abandons itself along with the rest of the world. Because somehow lives are worth saving now.
Then what?
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 02:15 PM
I listened to his last few segments, his most recent one I listened to while cleaning my house, it’s about 20 minutes. I won’t bother to link them but none of them that I listened to are nearly as bad as people make them out to be
His last one is “maybe this isn’t a crazy idea”, and it’s in regards to Zelenskyy floating the idea of diplomacy with Russia on the terms that Ukraine doesn’t join NATO. If anything it could be called a semi-waste since I don’t believe that those are Russia’s terms, just ones that Zelenskyy has proposed to Russia last week in an attempt to stop the war
Then Tucker goes on to sarcastically say that anyone who mentions diplomacy is dismissed as a Putin sympathizer or agent, and that many public figures have called Tucker treasonous, which I believe carries a death penalty or something similar. And this shows how we are NOT Russia, how we are better than Russia. Then he sarcastically talks about how Tulsi Gabbard was also called treasonous, for claiming that there were biolabs in Ukraine or something. And then explains how these labs were proven to exist
That’s about it, those are the bullet points that I can recall to save anyone from watching
The relatively benign nature of the overall presentation is not the problem, its the entire apparatus and its impacts. The entire feel of the show and attitude and stance is unhealthy and stupid. It all creates simple disunity in our country where we look at left or right as if they are stupid dum dum hypocrites, and can't see things clearly.
It's simple partisan poison, and it isn't specifically to benefit republicans or democrats. It is simply to benefit status quo overall as we are engaged in a local hate war against the people that should be our allies (our neighbors) worried that our neighbors are gunna make a picture of George Washington as a black woman and force our kids to hear about it, or some other thing that makes us lock our doors more consistently at night and play kid football or hockey on the streets more seldom because our neighbors might get mad and we don't want one of those super hateful idiots hating us any more than they already do right?
It's not specific evil talk, its general evil talk that leads no where good.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:19 PM
Okay so Ukraine abandons itself along with the rest of the world. Because somehow lives are worth saving now.
Then what?
we treat everyone with respect, and we come to some sort of agreement about how to create a better relationship between russia, nato and to give what's left of ukrain the best fascilities it needs to rebuild.
The other option is what, keep hoping that they eventually win? When is that enough for you? When is it worth america joining? When is it worth opening the nuclear Pandora's box?
Why do you think it's worth gambling that we'll win? Because media is giving you the idea that we will?
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 02:19 PM
Republicans told me there are no Nazis of consequence.
Now they say there are.
Parties flipped 🙃
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 02:20 PM
I've been making the same sort of one liners about Tucker since before you made that account hth paste eater.
lol he been livin rent free in your head longer than I thought, warmonger
unsunghero
03-15-2022, 02:21 PM
The relatively benign nature of the overall presentation is not the problem, its the entire apparatus and its impacts. The entire feel of the show and attitude and stance is unhealthy and stupid. It all creates simple disunity in our country where we look at left or right as if they are stupid dum dum hypocrites, and can't see things clearly.
It's simple partisan poison, and it isn't specifically to benefit republicans or democrats. It is simply to benefit status quo overall as we are engaged in a local hate war against the people that should be our allies (our neighbors) worried that our neighbors are gunna make a picture of George Washington as a black woman and force our kids to hear about it, or some other thing that makes us lock our doors more consistently at night and play kid football or hockey on the streets more seldom because our neighbors might get mad and we don't want one of those super hateful idiots hating us any more than they already do right?
It's not specific evil talk, its general evil talk that leads no where good.
I’m not speaking on how his segments are in general, but to some degree I agree that, like every other news station that exists right now, Tucker can be a bit of an outrage merchant
But like I said, in regards to pro-Putin sympathizing, I haven’t seen this in any of his segments (that I’ve heard) since the invasion began. He takes a “what are the long term consequences of this decision” appeal often, an anti-war stance often, and occasional does sympathize with the Russian people, such as what sanctions will do to them. That’s about the limits of any pro-Russia sentiment that I heard. And peppered in there are comments calling Putin a madman, dictator, murderer, etc. So could be a clever way to pull the wool over my eyes, but Russia state sponsored tv will definitely have to cut those parts before airing his episodes
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:22 PM
What does this mean?
UWQKspWKq9M
:o
Horza
03-15-2022, 02:24 PM
we treat everyone with respect, and we come to some sort of agreement about how to create a better relationship between russia, nato and to give what's left of ukrain the best fascilities it needs to rebuild.
Jib is going to tell us how to create a better relationship between Russia and NATO while the former continues to indiscriminately shell civilians and emergency supply convoys. How's that boot taste?
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:26 PM
see this shit is rampant, gustoo listen to me pro putin because I talked about an end to war.
horza will never trust a russian again.
starkind
03-15-2022, 02:30 PM
ITT: Jibartik: Trump saves
Everyone else: m'kaaaaaaaaayyyyy not really..
I personally don't think it's good policy to rely on any president to save.
Me: Jesus Saves /\ by helping save us so we can save ourselves and save everyone. /\
I'm not going to yell at you for abdicating responsibility to Trump.
I wouldn't personally recommend it though. Don't really track that well with Biden either.. he's got the best emoji set tho! 😎🍦
Hope this helps /\
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:32 PM
I personally don't think it's good policy to rely on any president to save.
I agree, but what we want, and what we have to do are different.
We have an opportunity that we can take advantage of to create peace.
We were afraid of that opportunity, because we thought it would cause war.
We went another way, and that way was war.
it's ironic.
The best we can do now is just hope this shit blows over. But even if it does, the armaments' we've given warlords in ukrain are going to have lasting repercussions.
Do I have to remind everyone where 9/11 organizers came from?
That time we accidentally got the afghans to erase their goverment by arming the Taliban "freedom fighters" to fight against invading Russia.
jfc
unsunghero
03-15-2022, 02:34 PM
see this shit is rampant, gustoo listen to me pro putin because I talked about an end to war.
horza will never trust a russian again.
Like I said when I mentioned man those sanctions are really going to suck for the Russian people to this die hard leftist co-worker of mine, I got a blinking blank stare and a subject change
The anti-Russia conditioning is deep with Dems. I remember all the “let’s not become Islamaphobic now” post 9/11, and “Let’s not hate Chinese Americans now” post Covid. But I’ve heard no such statements since this Russia thing began. I think that’s another indication of the conditioning
But F Russia, I ain’t no Putin sympathizer
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:36 PM
But F Russia, I ain’t no Putin sympathizer
Theyre brainwashing us to think russians are putin.
Are Americans Biden? Are they Trump?
"to defeat the putin (putin), we must destroy the putin (russians)"
unsunghero
03-15-2022, 02:37 PM
Theyre brainwashing us to think russians are putin.
Are Americans Biden? Are they Trump?
It was sarcasm yo
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:40 PM
It was sarcasm yo
haha
RIP That quote can now define who you are now like tuckers :o
Horza
03-15-2022, 02:50 PM
Tucker's television show is a rallying cry to save the white race from globalist semites, but also it's just silly jokes?
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:53 PM
Tucker's television show is a rallying cry to save the white race from globalist semites, but also it's just silly jokes?
like 20 different neo nazi clans fighting for freedom with the most advanced military equipment available so I know why you're happy.
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 02:55 PM
Tucker's television show is a rallying cry to save the white race from globalist semites, but also it's just silly jokes?
Bro Maddow on MSNBC literally doin PR for Nazis and tryin to clean up Hitler's image cuz Pudding bad or something
Hope that helps
Horza
03-15-2022, 02:58 PM
Are you retards done doing PR for all the Putin apologists over on Fox News?
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 02:58 PM
lmao shutup establishment cuck.
There are no WMDs in iraq.
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 03:09 PM
Are you retards done doing PR for all the Putin apologists over on Fox News?
Hey man why aren't you over in Ukraine yet bein cannon fodder for Biden the master strategist
hasn't all that spider campin givin you the training you need to fight a war?
starkind
03-15-2022, 03:10 PM
I'm a gentile, I want to convert tho. It's on the agenda. Going to see if G-d will be cool with Hinduism, Buddhism sides. I'm actually intrigued by a reformed Islam as well.
The Christ will pop in and let everyone know for sure at least. I hope. Can't bet on it in my entire lifetime. Would be neat!
Maybe ill just be like a diest. Or something. For now chabad.org is teaching me!
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 03:34 PM
see this shit is rampant, gustoo listen to me pro putin because I talked about an end to war.
horza will never trust a russian again.
The reason people jump on comments like that and laugh is because Russia has been impossible to work with for many many years. It's fun to be a rogue nation, its fun to be important because you won't accept fully the hegemony of a rival nation.
If Russia was quiet and normal and progressed normally they wouldn't be nearly as important to the planet as they are. I think it is a source of pride.
I get what you're saying but you aren't saying anything realistic about how you could possibly handle Russia better than we are right now. They invaded a sovereign country to take control of it. There demands have from the start basically been "give up and let us be the bosses" its not even their place to demand Ukraine not join Nato.
Really I am hearing your arguments and still don't see anything that goes beyond simply saying you'd rather there not be war, which we can all agree on. There is war now so we have to deal with what we have.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 03:44 PM
The reason people jump on comments like that and laugh is because Russia has been impossible to work with for many many years. It's fun to be a rogue nation, its fun to be important because you won't accept fully the hegemony of a rival nation.
bro we have made such amazing success over the last 30 years it makes me sad you history revisoinists are called liberal, or the left and not what you are: xenophobe imperialists
In 2015 Hillary was laughing and smiling with them.
Our economy boomed over the last 30 years as we brought 40 million Russians into it.
We're throwing all the progress away to just let them completely sever ties with the west.
This is the end of the last 40 years and the beginning of a new world.
starkind
03-15-2022, 03:47 PM
Idk.. it's like we where almost there and after Putin Russia would have been democratizing..
Two steps forward. One back. It's clear Russia is in serious trouble. I worry about that. .
Not because I want another "free market".. people really do need a decent degree of freedom of speech though.
starkind
03-15-2022, 03:48 PM
bro we have made such amazing success over the last 30 years it makes me sad you history revisoinists are called liberal, or the left and not what you are: xenophobe imperialists
In 2015 Hillary was laughing and smiling with them.
Our economy boomed over the last 30 years as we brought 40 million Russians into it.
We're throwing all the progress away to just let them completely sever ties with the west.
This is the end of the last 40 years and the beginning of a new world.
Yabutt
Appeasement!
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 03:51 PM
its not even their place to demand Ukraine not join Nato.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_European_Plain
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 03:53 PM
Yabutt
Appeasement!
Everything was fine until that fateful night when they decided it was russias fault bernie sanders didnt get nominated.
starkind
03-15-2022, 03:58 PM
Everything was fine until that fateful night when they decided it was russias fault bernie sanders didnt get nominated.
Maybe. I won't rule that out. It didn't help at all with any of the sentiment towards Americans.
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 04:00 PM
The stock market has boomed for many reasons, and the average american is worse of today than they were 30 years ago. Russia or not doesn't really have anything to do with that.
I hope the iron curtain doesn't fall again. For Russias sake.
Hell they've been waging cyber war right in the open for many years already. I am still looking for a solution other than sanctions? They should have been sanctioned until they stop acting like maniacs just like we do with North Korea. But they're more western looking and our powers that be have had a lot of money to gain by making deals so they let it all go.
I honestly don't know what you're arguing for.
Don't watch entertainment news read a concise informative article or just argue here ha ha
starkind
03-15-2022, 04:07 PM
Inflation isn't just in individual $ values its also in total piece of the pie wealth gap.
Plus the modern technologies and globalization makes it much harder to defend against authoritarians the way we normally did. I do believe globalization is inevitable we should still subsidize local suppliers! And protect local property rights and administration from going overseas!
That said there are some perks to being alive today.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:09 PM
The stock market has boomed for many reasons, and the average american is worse of today than they were 30 years ago. Russia or not doesn't really have anything to do with that.
Because we opened the worlds economy and we started trading with countries we had cold wars with.
The world became a better place over 20 years after the end of the cold war, but then it quickly fell into chaos in the last 10.
Because you cant control 320 million americas the audacity that we could control billions of people across nations.
I am arguing that the EU does what NATO is trying to do, it's time we abandon nato, we move industry back to the USA we stop trying to be a world militaristic power, and we STOP telling countries to genocide themselves to fight russians.
The last time this happened was literaly during the cold war.
Im saying that the direction the left is heading is to our end.
Im saying to stop going in that direction.
To stop waving the flags of war!
We should welcome putin into our arms, and welcome the russians, and give them what they want to stop acting retarted.
I've said it a million times!!!!!!!!
The youth was winning in Russia, The youth are all dead, or in jail now.
Everything we've worked for is GONE.
GONE!
We've set the clock back to the collapse of the soviet union. Now we have a chance to stop it, before we set it back to when there WAS a soviet union.
We keep pushing the line forward, we'll set it back to when we were threatening to kill each other, and this time, this generation on both sides will gleefully do it.
Horza
03-15-2022, 04:25 PM
We should welcome putin into our arms, and welcome the russians, and give them what they want to stop acting retarted.
Remind me how well just giving him exactly what he wanted worked with Hitler, paste eater.
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:26 PM
Because we opened the worlds economy and we started trading with countries we had cold wars with.
The world became a better place over 20 years after the end of the cold war, but then it quickly fell into chaos in the last 10.
Because you cant control 320 million americas the audacity that we could control billions of people across nations.
I am arguing that the EU does what NATO is trying to do, it's time we abandon nato, we move industry back to the USA we stop trying to be a world militaristic power, and we STOP telling countries to genocide themselves to fight russians.
The last time this happened was literaly during the cold war.
Im saying that the direction the left is heading is to our end.
Im saying to stop going in that direction.
To stop waving the flags of war!
We should welcome putin into our arms, and welcome the russians, and give them what they want to stop acting retarted.
I've said it a million times!!!!!!!!
The youth was winning in Russia, The youth are all dead, or in jail now.
Everything we've worked for is GONE.
GONE!
We've set the clock back to the collapse of the soviet union. Now we have a chance to stop it, before we set it back to when there WAS a soviet union.
We keep pushing the line forward, we'll set it back to when we were threatening to kill each other, and this time, this generation on both sides will gleefully do it.
lol there’s a lot of craziness in here
I always love when people are like “bring that darn industry back to americuh!!! They done took our darn tootin jobs!!!” And then when they bring everything back to America and prices go through the roof because of how much your average American laborer thinks they should be paid for often un/low skilled labor, those same people will be posting rants online about how corporations are greedy and stealing all their money through expensive goods. Good luck with that
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:28 PM
Remind me how well just giving him exactly what he wanted worked with Hitler, paste eater.
For real. His statement was one of the dumbest I’ve read on here in awhile. Yeah let’s just “give russia what they want” aka just let them invade and annex a totally independent country because of Putin’s ego.
Guessing all those Ukrainian civilians suffering at the hands of the Russians would totally agree that they should give out in what he wants. What a moronic statement
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:31 PM
liberals will not be content with anything other than killing the president of russia.
you people are batshit insane.
Guessing all those Ukrainian civilians suffering at the hands of the Russians would totally agree that they should give out in what he wants. What a moronic statement
inserts picture of 10,000 dead ukrainians.
in 1 month
inserts picture of 100,000 dead ukrainians
in 3
inserts picture of 4 million dead ukrainians.
Glad I bought a geiger counter. I bet you retards didn't. And you're rooting for the need to use one.
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 04:36 PM
Putin doesn't want to be welcomed into our arms, we have been trying to do that this entire damn time.
I don't know what you expect the result of a demilitarized USA to be, the power vacuum would be filled with most likely china and russia, and the european powers we've been batting for would have to scale up again. You talk about winding the clock back, with an emboldened and aggressive Russia, a USA that no longer participates, we're well on our way back to actual WW3
What world are you trying to live in and how do we get there because the USA just disappearing from the global war stage doesn't on its own somehow fix things.
And talking about war mongering democrats is hilariously silly. The warmongering is universal my friend. The current standpoint of Republicans vs the Ukraine war is a strategic bet, they're hoping that the war goes bad and they can say "I've been telling you all along that war with russia is stupid!, its bidens fault, re-elect trump!" its just simple campaigning no one cares about lives lost.
Even if things go well for Ukraine the republicans can still use the anti-war thing as a platform in the next election.
It's just another thing for us to be divided about when the reality is both of these parties are despicable at best.
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:37 PM
liberals will not be content with anything other than killing the president of russia.
you people are batshit insane.
inserts picture of 10,000 dead ukrainians.
in 1 month
inserts picture of 100,000 dead ukrainians
in 3
inserts picture of 4 million dead ukrainians.
Glad I bought a geiger counter. I bet you retards didn't. And you're rooting for the need to use one.
I’m not a liberal, what are you even talking about? Idc if Putin is the head of Russia, but you can’t just let a country decide to invade and conquer another first world country just because they feel like it.
Also why are you getting your panties in such a bunch over a bunch of economic sanctions? Why does that bother you so much?
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:37 PM
WRONG WRONG WRONG
you people know nothing you act like the russian allegations against trump are true.
You believe crazy shit
youre all insane whatever, enjoy death. Thanks for killing me.
mr fucking know it alls.
kill me and everyone else
"doEsnT AnYOneCAreABOut the CLimaTE!"
*starts fucking world war 3 cus hates putin
Mblake1981
03-15-2022, 04:38 PM
lhow much your average American laborer thinks they should be paid for often un/low skilled labor..
They should get a degree, become vegan and buy an electric vehicle.
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:38 PM
Putin doesn't want to be welcomed into our arms, we have been trying to do that this entire damn time.
I don't know what you expect the result of a demilitarized USA to be, the power vacuum would be filled with most likely china and russia, and the european powers we've been batting for would have to scale up again. You talk about winding the clock back, with an emboldened and aggressive Russia, a USA that no longer participates, we're well on our way back to actual WW3
What world are you trying to live in and how do we get there because the USA just disappearing from the global war stage doesn't on its own somehow fix things.
And talking about war mongering democrats is hilariously silly. The warmongering is universal my friend. The current standpoint of Republicans vs the Ukraine war is a strategic bet, they're hoping that the war goes bad and they can say "I've been telling you all along that war with russia is stupid!, its bidens fault, re-elect trump!" its just simple campaigning no one cares about lives lost.
Even if things go well for Ukraine the republicans can still use the anti-war thing as a platform in the next election.
It's just another thing for us to be divided about when the reality is both of these parties are despicable at best.
Great post
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:39 PM
I’m not a liberal, what are you even talking about?
Another dickhead democrat openly admitting he's close minded.
What even is the democrat party anymore?
Drone strikes kids.
Kills soldiers.
Starts world war 3.
Blindly fears different cultures.
Staunchly NOT liberal.
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:40 PM
WRONG WRONG WRONG
you people know nothing you act like the russian allegations against trump are true.
You believe crazy shit
youre all insane whatever, enjoy death. Thanks for killing me.
mr fucking know it alls.
kill me and everyone else
"doEsnT AnYOneCAreABOut the CLimaTE!"
*starts fucking world war 3 cus hates putin
I’m not a liberal and I am not against the invasion of Ukraine because of the trump investigation. I’m against it because these are free people living their lives and russia is just rolling in because Putin has an ego and wants to feel like the Soviet Union lording over smaller countries again.
Also in what universe do you see us in world war 3? Literally no one is participating militarily in the conflict. What country has sent military forces to fight russia? It’s been made clear that’s not going to happen and it’s just sanctions. Chill tf out man
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:41 PM
Another dickhead democrat openly admitting he's close minded.
What even is the democrat party anymore?
Drone strikes kids.
Kills soldiers.
Starts world war 3.
Blindly fears different cultures.
Staunchly NOT liberal.
I voted for trump in 2016 you moron lol
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:41 PM
Ill tell you what, if the choice is go to war with russia, or go to war with democrats, ill chose democrats every time.
So keep poking the bear 2x libs.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:42 PM
I voted for trump in 2016 you moron lol
explains a lot about how stupid you are.
and 100% validates my argument that the parties flipped, and bushers are now democrats now.
F all democrats.
F all bushers.
All guilty of warcrimes
2x now
all should be in prison
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:44 PM
i vOteD fOr TrUMp, MoRon!
what a stupid thing to admit.
Even I havent voted for him you dickless wonder.
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:44 PM
explains a lot about how stupid you are.
and 100% validates my argument that the parties flipped, and bushers are now democrats now.
F all democrats.
F all bushers.
All guilty of warcrimes
2x now
all should be in prison
Wtf are you even talking about lol
And you still haven’t addressed why you’re so whiney and up in arms right now. Why are you so mad about some economic sanctions??
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 04:45 PM
Guys I'm going out on a limb here but I think Jib's standpoint is that America FORCED Russia to invade Ukraine for some reason, and that is why Russia is not the bad guy, but democrats are.
Am I wrong here Jib?
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:45 PM
Wtf are you even talking about lol
And you still haven’t addressed why you’re so whiney and up in arms right now. Why are you so mad about some economic sanctions??
Youre a republican, then now you're a democrat.
You were pro war in iraq, afghanastan, and now the ukraine.
You're part of the fascist alliance.
TAKE HIM AWAY!
Horza
03-15-2022, 04:46 PM
Youre a republican, then now you're a democrat.
You were pro war in iraq, afghanastan, and now the ukraine.
You're part of the fascist alliance.
TAKE HIM AWAY!
I think I may have finally broken him at last, you filthy Democrats.
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:47 PM
Youre a republican, then now you're a democrat.
You were pro war in iraq, afghanastan, and now the ukraine.
You're part of the fascist alliance.
TAKE HIM AWAY!
So you still have no answer for why you’re so upset about economic sanctions?
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:47 PM
I think I may have finally broken him at last, you filthy Democrats.
Lmao
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 04:48 PM
I think I may have finally broken him at last, you filthy Democrats.
Dems definitely filthy warmongers playin wag the dog cuz Biden a failed prez for sure
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:48 PM
Guys I'm going out on a limb here but I think Jib's standpoint is that America FORCED Russia to invade Ukraine for some reason, and that is why Russia is not the bad guy, but democrats are.
Am I wrong here Jib?
A bit, they bungled the last 6 months and didn't take it seriously, and they are either stupid, or in on it.
Either way they cannot continue to manage the country let alone the world.
We have borderline retards at the helm, and you and everyone else is like, "Lets not look to closely at it, and lets just work out the details after!!! infact anyone who even criticizes it is a Putin loving fascist, shame them, shame them!!!!!!!!!"
Im terrified about whats happening. Im literally genuinely concerned about my future.
This is 1980s close to death shit. Only we do not have the maturity and experience to deal with it.
My stance is if we dont calm the fuck down quick, this party is going to burn the house down.
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:50 PM
No, they bungled the last 6 months and didn't take it seriously, and they are either stupid, or in on it.
Either way they cannot continue to manage the country let alone the world.
We have borderline retards at the helm, and you and everyone else is like, "Lets not look to closely at it, and lets just work out the details after!!! infact anyone who even criticizes it is a Putin loving fascist, shame them, shame them!!!!!!!!!"
Im terrified about whats happening. Im literally genuinely concerned about my future.
This is 1980s close to death shit. Only we do not have the maturity and experience to deal with it.
My stance is if we dont calm the fuck down quick, this party is going to burn the house down.
“Omg we sanctioned russia the whole world is about to collapse!!!!!!”
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 04:50 PM
Ukraine first world country
They were second. Is it much better now?
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:52 PM
So you still have no answer for why you’re so upset about economic sanctions?
Because they wont work, they are destroying our economy as well.
They're a fools errand.
All they're doing is turning MORE of that part of the world against us.
China has made it loud and clear, they are not going to let the sanctions affect them. They are going to probably increase trade with Russia, and will create stronger bond and it will weaken the US even more than it already is.
These sanctions are going to hurt the wrong people and strengthen the ones we were trying to weaken.
“Omg we sanctioned russia the whole world is about to collapse!!!!!!”
God you trump voters are insane.
Bejing
Hong kong
Singapore.
These 3, will generate as much revenue each for china as wallstreet generates for the USA.
We're destabilizing our own fed, countries that dont agree with nato or the west, will not want to invest in our bonds anymore. And our entire economy will crash. This is the ONE thing keeping it working. THE ONE THING!!!!!
They will then invest in these 3 hubs instead, the middle east, africa, literally every country but nato will be removing their investments in the US bond market, and move them to the chinese.
This is definitly going to happen if we keep showing the world that we'll just turn their bank accounts off if we dont like what they're doing.
These mistakes are ASSNINE.
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:56 PM
Because they wont work, they are destroying our economy as well.
They're a fools errand.
All they're doing is turning MORE of that part of the world against us.
China has made it loud and clear, they are not going to let the sanctions affect them. They are going to probably increase trade with Russia, and will create stronger bond and it will weaken the US even more than it already is.
These sanctions are going to hurt the wrong people and strengthen the ones we were trying to weaken.
You realize the US China and Russia aren’t the only first world countries right?
More of that part of the world? What are you even talking about? That whole part of the world (Eastern Europe and Scandinavia) all hate Russia lol.
The economy seems to be doing just fine. Gas prices will be rough temporarily, not the end of the world. Relax dude go take a Xanax or something lol
cd288
03-15-2022, 04:57 PM
Because they wont work, they are destroying our economy as well.
They're a fools errand.
All they're doing is turning MORE of that part of the world against us.
China has made it loud and clear, they are not going to let the sanctions affect them. They are going to probably increase trade with Russia, and will create stronger bond and it will weaken the US even more than it already is.
These sanctions are going to hurt the wrong people and strengthen the ones we were trying to weaken.
God you trump voters are so stupid its insane.
Bejing
Hong kong
Singapore.
These 3, will generate as much revenue each for china as wallstreet generates for the USA.
We're destabilizing our own fed, countries that dont agree with nato or the west, will not want to invest in our bonds anymore. And our entire economy will crash. This is the ONE thing keeping it working. THE ONE THING!!!!!
They will then invest in these 3 hubs instead, the middle east, africa, literally every country but nato will be removing their investments in the US bond market, and move them to the chinese.
This is definitly going to happen if we keep showing the world that we'll just turn their bank accounts off if we dont like what they're doing.
These mistakes are ASSNINE.
Lmao the second portion of this post is the most uneducated moronic stuff I’ve read. I used to think you had a modicum of intelligence but I think I was wrong
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 04:59 PM
You realize the US China and Russia aren’t the only first world countries right?
Bejing
Hong kong
Singapore.
these are the only money markets on earth taht compare to stability of the fed.
You dont undestand that, you dont even know what i mean at all.
You dont even know what Im saying we're risking.
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:01 PM
Bejing
Hong kong
Singapore.
these are the only money markets on earth taht compare to stability of the fed.
You dont undestand that, you dont even know what i mean at all.
You dont even know what Im saying we're risking.
I work on WS big dawg. I’d wager I know much more about economics, money markets, etc. than you ever will living out there in Oklahoma or wherever you are :)
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:02 PM
I work on WS big dawg. I’d wager I know much more about economics, money markets, etc. than you ever will living out there in Oklahoma or wherever you are :)
I promise I have lost in the stock market more in the last 6 months than you have made in the last 5 years.
The economy seems to be doing just fine.
lmao get bent. You dont even know what the feds most important job is. Go ahead, Say it. I dare you.
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 05:06 PM
First world is when your GDP doubles in 30 years but there's 8 million less of you.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:09 PM
Ours has gone up 100 million in that time wow!
world war 3:
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cd288
03-15-2022, 05:11 PM
I promise I have lost in the stock market more in the last 6 months than you have made in the last 5 years.
Well if that were the case I’d be very worried for your sustainability. And also you must not know much about what you’re doing if you’re losing multi 7 figures in 6 months lol
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 05:11 PM
First world is when your GDP doubles in 30 years but there's 8 million less of you.
Akshually, it's when your economy is centrally planned and you're shelling your own cities.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:12 PM
Well if that were the case I’d be very worried for your sustainability. And also you must not know much about what you’re doing if you’re losing multi 7 figures in 6 months lol
I am retired in paradise class worker.
I knew your not invested ass would say that.
I bet you havent invested 100$ in the stock market before.
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 05:14 PM
Akshually, it's when your economy is centrally planned and you're shelling your own cities.
Wait no, it's when your last President fled a popular coup and your new one is a TV clown.
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:16 PM
I knew your not invested ass would say that.
I bet you havent invested 100$ in the stock market before.
Well currently as a senior insider I’m actually prohibited from trading on the stock market altogether. I have access to too much MNPI unfortunately, it sucks. I can invest in private companies which I do through my holding company that I set up, and obviously I can still do mutual funds and ETFs which I utilize for lower return but less volatility on a long time horizon. But yeah because of my access to MNPI as well as the general type of investment activity my company engages in, it’s too high risk to allow someone in my position to trade publicly issued stocks.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:19 PM
Well, if there is one thing that is clear, your world view, and understanding of the economy is certainly "senior".
Times have changed grandpa.
The rest of your BS past the words I have a holding company, is not read by me.
You dont trade stocks because your assets are your socks.
Now go back to your sweet daddy trump you voted for so bigly for boomer grandpa.
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:22 PM
Well, if there is one thing that is clear, your world view, and understanding of the economy is certainly "senior".
Times have changed grandpa.
The rest of your BS past the words I have a holding company, is not read by me.
You dont trade stocks because your assets are your socks.
Now go back to your sweet daddy trump you voted for so bigly for boomer grandpa.
Lol I’m in my 30s but good try!
And voted for Biden in 2020. I’m a moderate who votes both sides of the aisle.
But hey gotta be thankful for less intelligent people like yourself, because otherwise we’d all be paid the same!
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:23 PM
You voted for trump because you need a daddy.
Then the parites flipped and you voted for daddy 2 to fix your own mess.
What more do I need to say you're a loser.
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 05:25 PM
I'm afraid it seems this conversation is coming to a close.
We sanctioned Russia for invading a country.
We should have done more to stop them from invading somehow.
The USD is poised to stop being the reserve currency, which is sort of true, considering how many of them we printed in the last 10 years.
However, the united states collapse as global hegemonic power will not be because Russia invaded Ukraine and we didn't force Ukraine to roll over.
So I do recommend relaxing a bit. The economy was tanking hard with or without russia sanctions. At the very least we're going to be looking at some serious inflation and anything that hasn't doubled in price already is a miracle. Car prices are not exclusively because of covid 19 related supply problems. That would hold things up for weeks or months at best. It's 3/15/ twenty fucking two at this point.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:26 PM
So I do recommend relaxing a bit.
im just pissed a retard who voted for trump is trying to tell me hes right when all ive said for the last year is that biden voters are the retard GOPers that elected trump and the parties flipped when they found out he was going to drain the swamp.
Now, like iraq, these SAME PEOPLE are trying to insist that the lack of evidence with this war is enough to start world war 3.
Idiots. They were idiots then, and you're an idiot now.
War mongering fascists that think "oh oh ill be rich one day too!!! we have to let the establishment do wars!"
losers.
We all had to pay for their mess the last 20 years... now they want to do it again.
Only this time they get to do it with a new party, so the idiots who are actually democrats, THINK they are working for democrats.
YOURE SPEWING GOP BUSH WMDS IN IRAQ PROPAGANDA GUSTO!!
see the light, please!
Turn from these demorats. Stay away from these bushers.
That's all I ask! Be pro ukraine, but say biden is a war criminal, because he is and so is bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:27 PM
You voted for trump because you need a daddy.
Then the parites flipped and you voted for daddy 2 to fix your own mess.
What more do I need to say you're a loser.
Nah cause I don’t align with either party. Some of my views align with one, some with the other. Hence why I’m in the middle and vote both sides of the aisle in all elections not just the presidency.
I voted for trump initially because I hated Hillary, I thought any tax reform he would put in place would be helpful to me (I was wrong), and I thought he would help roll back some of the regulation in the financial industry that I feel goes a little too far (he didn’t do that that much). Once he went completely insane in office, I voted for Biden because his voting record was generally more centrist based on what I saw and I thought it was important to get rid of a guy who was fixated on trying to remain in power instead of abiding by the terms of our constitution.
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:28 PM
I'm afraid it seems this conversation is coming to a close.
We sanctioned Russia for invading a country.
We should have done more to stop them from invading somehow.
The USD is poised to stop being the reserve currency, which is sort of true, considering how many of them we printed in the last 10 years.
However, the united states collapse as global hegemonic power will not be because Russia invaded Ukraine and we didn't force Ukraine to roll over.
So I do recommend relaxing a bit. The economy was tanking hard with or without russia sanctions. At the very least we're going to be looking at some serious inflation and anything that hasn't doubled in price already is a miracle. Car prices are not exclusively because of covid 19 related supply problems. That would hold things up for weeks or months at best. It's 3/15/ twenty fucking two at this point.
I agree with this mostly. Although I don’t really think there’s serious risk of the dollar not being the reserve currency
Mblake1981
03-15-2022, 05:28 PM
I hear they masturbate to anime.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:32 PM
funny the party you voted for then, is identical to the party you voted for now.
The parties flipped, you're not a liberal, like you said.
I mean the idea that you would say "I dont align with either party" then not say youa re a liberal, also informs me that aside from being a LIAR about your job and success.
You dont even know English.
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:32 PM
im just pissed a retard who voted for trump is trying to tell me hes right when all ive said for the last year is that biden voters are the retard GOPers that elected trump and the parties flipped when they found out he was going to drain the swamp.
Now, like iraq, these SAME PEOPLE are trying to insist that the lack of evidence with this war is enough to start world war 3.
Idiots. They were idiots then, and you're an idiot now.
War mongering fascists that think "oh oh ill be rich one day too!!! we have to let the establishment do wars!"
losers.
We all had to pay for their mess the last 20 years... now they want to do it again.
Only this time they get to do it with a new party, so the idiots who are actually democrats, THINK they are working for democrats.
YOURE SPEWING GOP BUSH WMDS IN IRAQ PROPAGANDA GUSTO!!
see the light, please!
Turn from these demorats. Stay away from these bushers.
That's all I ask! Be pro ukraine, but say biden is a war criminal, because he is and so is bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one is warmongering bud chill out. World war three isn’t going to start over well deserved economic sanctions. You really need to relax
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:33 PM
No one is warmongering bud chill out. World war three isn’t going to start over well deserved economic sanctions. You really need to relax
Of course your ass thinks its safe.
You were down with killing a million iraqis for false reasons and youre down with killing a million ukrainians without even know where that country is.
Burn in hell where you and every busher belongs.
It pisses me off so much, that you voted for war in Afghanistan and iraq, and now you switched to MY PARTY, and are voting for war in ukraine because of the same unverified intelligence.
unsunghero
03-15-2022, 05:34 PM
,,,
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:35 PM
Of course your ass thinks its safe.
You were down with killing a million iraqis for false reasons and youre down with killing a million ukrainians.
Burn in hell where you and every busher belongs.
When did I say I supported the war in Iraq? Also I am obviously NOT down with killing Ukrainians which is the whole reason why I am in support of the sanctions imposed on the country that’s killing them.
Technically you’re the one supporting millions of Ukrainians dying because you’re okay with Putin invading Ukraine and conquering them
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:36 PM
funny the party you voted for then, is identical to the party you voted for now.
The parties flipped, you're not a liberal, like you said.
I mean the idea that you would say "I dont align with either party" then not say youa re a liberal, also informs me that aside from being a LIAR about your job and success.
You dont even know English.
I don’t know English? You really wrote that after writing the words you did above? Lmao
Literally none of what you said makes sense. It doesn’t make a coherent point but if you want to try rewriting it I’m happy to respond
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:38 PM
When did I say I supported the war in Iraq? Also I am obviously NOT down with killing Ukrainians which is the whole reason why I am in support of the sanctions imposed on the country that’s killing them.
Technically you’re the one supporting millions of Ukrainians dying because you’re okay with Putin invading Ukraine and conquering them
I would literally hit you in the face if this was a conversation in person. Im so pissed at you.
The idea that you think putin would have killed all those ukrainians if they were not shooting at his invasion and yo uthink they would make gas chamgers or something makes me want to literally hit you.
What a bunch of bullshit that is.
Just like your bullshit about iraq.
Just like your bullshit about afghanastan.
You said it yourself, you voted for trump before and you're not a liberal, that means YOURE A FORMER REPUBLICAN.
Scum suckers like you sitting at home in peace belong in the Hague for what your votes did the last 20 years.
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:44 PM
I would literally hit you in the face if this was a conversation in person. Im so pissed at you.
The idea that you think putin would have killed all those ukrainians if they were not shooting at his invasion and yo uthink they would make gas chamgers or something makes me want to literally hit you.
What a bunch of bullshit that is.
Just like your bullshit about iraq.
Just like your bullshit about afghanastan.
You said it yourself, you voted for trump before and you're not a liberal, that means YOURE A FORMER REPUBLICAN.
Scum suckers like you sitting at home in peace belong in the Hague for what your votes did the last 20 years.
Dude Ukraine is an independent nation. They’re going to fight russia regardless lol, and that’s been made entirely clear here because they are receiving literally no boots on the ground from other countries, nor air support or any active military support and they’re still fighting. Your point would be valid if we were over there with soldiers fighting the Russians, or at the very least using US drone strikes and stuff to help fight the Russians, but we’re NOT. Ukraine is the only military fighting the Russians and they’re doing that regardless so it literally has nothing to do with the US. Again chill tf out bro
I’m also not a former Republican. I voted for Obama in 2008 and then Romney in 2012. Why is it so hard for morons like you to wrap their head around someone voting both sides of the aisle in a pragmatic manner and not identifying with one party or the other?
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 05:44 PM
No one wanted to kill Iraqi's for false reasons.
USA war enterprise wanted to kill Iraqi's and like always its pretty easy to get americans to support such work especially after 9/11 attacks it was like a free for all who we get to call a terrorist and then go to war with.
At this point, despite the high approval rating of the Iraq war (though it was not as high as afghanistan) the amount of people saying that approved of the war at the time was like zero.
Since most p99 players would have been around 15 at the time, our dumb ass opinion about international conflict can more or less be excused or at least blamed on those of our elders. I was still playing live EQ at the time, and Tribes 2 and rainbow six 3 raven shield.
So Jibartik I'm not appreciating your new flailing rant technique here and I hope you can straighten out before people treat you like Horza from like two months ago (seriously horza u sucked)
cd288 I was trying to summarize Jibartiks arguments and then also analyze them at the end. I don't really know if there was more to be done to prevent russia from invading ukraine.
And for the USD to lose its reserve status and our debt to be de-rated there needs to be a fallback and there isn't someone setting up in a traditional way to replace the USA as king of the hill in this way. China has things it does and things it doesn't do. People can't trust china as they are very opaque, they have a long way before they can replace the USA as trusted for anything. It happens in many industries. They sell food globally and most USA companies won't touch their stuff because the certifications are all B.S. they are really a developing country in most ways still.
So ya if there was someone else kicking ass ready to sideline the USA I am sure that would happen but right now "we're all in this together" means all the non hyper rich people in the world are gunna take it right on the chin while the rich guys scramble for a larger piece of the pie which is already like 90% of the whole pie.
That's why I point my finger at the mega corps who really are the only ones doing well in this chaos, which they have very much control of via social media power. We can wish china or russia was the real next wave power but I'd like to see how it isn't more likely that the handful of people that have more "money" than governments aren't the ones poised to take the next win.
Especially with cryptocurrency (non government issued currency) becoming treated like valid currency, which is one of the main things that governments had to offer.
Musk Tusk Bucks baby
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:49 PM
Fair points Gustoo. I go back and forth on the Iraq war. I mean, because he was trying to keep Iran from thinking they could invade him again, Sadaam spent a long time making it seem like he had WMDs…he was refusing to allow inspectors into specific areas and even claimed at one point that he had WMDs. Of course, as we figured out eventually he didn’t but he was trying to make it seem like he did to seem strong vs Iran. He had also used chemical weapons in the past so it wasn’t impossible to believe that he could have more serious weaponry.
However I do think that once we realized the WMDs weren’t there we should have left rather than trying to nation build which ultimately created more war and suffering for all sides.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:51 PM
I’m also not a former Republican. I voted for Obama in 2008 and then Romney in 2012. Why is it so hard for morons like you to wrap their head around someone voting both sides of the aisle in a pragmatic manner and not identifying with one party or the other?
because Im going to describe who you are now:
You voted for obama first term, because you were young and believed his lies about hope.
Then you got mad about those lies and thought a Mormon would be a good idea (which indicates you are just really stupid)
Then after that failed, you revealed the absolute sheer audacity of your stupidity, and as someone who voted for obama, you voted for trump (holy shit you decided to go FULL IN ON GOP over another democrat after obama??)
Then after you went for the GOP twice. After I said the parties flipped. You voted for Biden.
You've proven my point and you revealed you're a bushtard.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:52 PM
No one wanted to kill Iraqi's for false reasons.
Id hit you too in person for sayign this shit to my face, they most certainly did.
We invaded because the news, president, and intelligence (even though none of us believed them) said that they had WMDs
You people.
OK OK I GET IT youre a cult.
Im done.
CD proved the parties flipped.
Yall love it I hope you all choke on this war!!!!!
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 05:53 PM
But you may have heard about the hilarious nation building committees that were ready to reshape iraq into our dream middle eastern country right?
I cringe to think of the dumb stuff that was said when they presented road maps towards a thousand mini malls and at least 500 target retail stores scattered throughout the country, our new best friend in the middle east.
Of course anyone with a brain is thinking "man, I kinda wish that crazy man Saddam was still there in Iraq dealing with Iran"
That is my biggest worry about Putin. Of course, he could get deposed and replaced by people that want Russia to be with the rest of the world. The other option is he is deposed and someone even more strong-man than he takes the reigns to really re-invigorate nationalist pride and get all the anger of the Russian people pointed outwards for some serious conflict, or something.
It's hard for us outsiders to know what Putin is dealing with and what we would get without him.
Mblake1981
03-15-2022, 05:53 PM
Burn in hell where you and every busher belongs.
https://i.imgur.com/Pjngnl3.png
Find a burning bush.
https://i.imgur.com/KwrCa18.jpg
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 05:54 PM
Id hit you too in person for sayign this shit to my face, they most certainly did.
We invaded because the news, president, and intelligence (even though none of us believed them) said that they had WMDs
You people.
OK OK I GET IT youre a cult.
Im done.
CD proved the parties flipped.
Yall love it I hope you all choke on this war!!!!!
Thats what I mean, the invasion of Iraq was supported for real reasons, that later proved to be false.
It remains to be seen what we were blatantly lied about when it comes to Ukraine, and what 1 individual gets to take the blame for it all and the others skate away scott free like everyone who sold small businesses down the river while forcing people to shop at target and amazon only for like a full year. scumz.
In the case of Ukraine all I know is that Russia invaded so I am pretty convinced they're the bad guys.
But maybe I'm missing something on that one still.
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 05:56 PM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/colin-powell-wmd-iraq-war_b_2624620
Lie After Lie After Lie: What Colin Powell Knew Ten Years Ago Today and What He Said
Clearly, Powell's loyalty to George Bush extended to being willing to deceive the world: the United Nations, Americans, and the coalition troops about to be sent to kill and die in Iraq. He's never been held accountable for his actions, and it's extremely unlikely he ever will be.
I'm amazed lefties forgot the lessons of the Iraq War and what got us in there (lies) and have jumped on this bloodthirsty all in warmongering potential bloodbath in Ukraine without questioning anything
Totally unreal but it shows the power of propaganda on weak minds
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 05:57 PM
Thats what I mean, the invasion of Iraq was supported for real reasons, that later proved to be false.
Im trying to tell you that the war in ukrane is for those same type of reasons.
But righ tnow you tell me that is pro putin propaganda... you INSISIT its people fighting for their freedom.
NOW here you are 20 years later, saying "oh there was more than just the threat of WMDs"
in 20 years, Id be saying "we let ukraine collapse because they were fighting for their freedom!"
But youll be like, "OHH WELL NO! THE CORPERATIONS IN CONJUCTION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BLA BLA BLA"
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 05:58 PM
Back in Iraq war peoples careers were over because of misinformation or making the wrong decisions. In the trump era you're allowed to flat out lie on TV and then just say "Nah I wasn't lying I was tricking you for tactical purposes" or something and get away with it because we expect nothing from these guys.
+1 point for the mega corps?
cd288
03-15-2022, 05:59 PM
Im trying to tell you that the war in ukrane is for those same type of reasons.
But righ tnow you tell me that is pro putin propaganda... you INSISIT its people fighting for their freedom.
NOW here you are 20 years later, saying "oh there was more than just the threat of WMDs"
in 20 years, Id be saying "we let ukraine collapse because they were fighting for their freedom!"
But youll be like, "OHH WELL NO! THE CORPERATIONS IN CONJUCTION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BLA BLA BLA"
But…none of the NATO countries are fighting in Ukraine. That’s why you sound so insane. Literally only Ukraine and russia are fighting. It’s not analogous in any way lol
Gustoo
03-15-2022, 06:00 PM
Jib right now you're saying you think we are being lied to about Ukraine.
I'm curious what the lies area, and what facts there are?
Like, you think Russia was really feeling threatened by neo nazi's in Ukraine?
Or what?
Its a very different situation than USA going balls deep into a war after way too long (for us) of peace time.
cd288
03-15-2022, 06:00 PM
because Im going to describe who you are now:
You voted for obama first term, because you were young and believed his lies about hope.
Then you got mad about those lies and thought a Mormon would be a good idea (which indicates you are just really stupid)
Then after that failed, you revealed the absolute sheer audacity of your stupidity, and as someone who voted for obama, you voted for trump (holy shit you decided to go FULL IN ON GOP over another democrat after obama??)
Then after you went for the GOP twice. After I said the parties flipped. You voted for Biden.
You've proven my point and you revealed you're a bushtard.
I mean if you’d like to know why I voted for Obama and all the others I’m happy to go through my reasoning at the time for each choice (although I already did that for trump and Biden a bit)
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 06:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/KwrCa18_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
I want to believe
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 06:09 PM
US has enough domestic supply to be completely self sufficient and supply our allies in Europe but Global Warming or something so many Ukrainians have to die for the leftist cult cause
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 06:13 PM
But…none of the NATO countries are fighting in Ukraine. That’s why you sound so insane. Literally only Ukraine and russia are fighting. It’s not analogous in any way lol
I know! They are getting the ukrainians to die for them, this is why I am upset!!!!
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 06:19 PM
I know! They are getting the ukrainians to die for them, this is why I am upset!!!!
Just another war for oil. This time in Europe.
Biden's war and he a dem so his shills all in on the bloodshed
unsunghero
03-15-2022, 06:20 PM
Same great products you trust, now with higher prices!
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 06:24 PM
Same great products you trust, now with higher prices!
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17213&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1647382800
I thought you guys didn't like vandalism? :p
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 06:25 PM
Jib right now you're saying you think we are being lied to about Ukraine.
I'm curious what the lies area, and what facts there are?
Like, you think Russia was really feeling threatened by neo nazi's in Ukraine?
Or what?
Its a very different situation than USA going balls deep into a war after way too long (for us) of peace time.
Well ive said it.
You're being lied to about the reason the fighting is happening, sure people want their freedom, but THEY are lied to about what will happen to them if they joined the russian federation, or didnt join nato.
Like, they are fighting for their freedom, why does there freedom and joining natio have to be 1:1? Why cant, infact, wont they be MORE valuble and wealthy, if they can act as a middle man between Nato and the russians? YES OF COURSE, but for some reason they want to join nato, WHY!? Because theyre being lied to by NATO! Theyre being used as pawns in their war with russia.
That's the lie.
Here's more dubious stuff:
Lockeed martin stock goe sup 200$ over this. "proud of all the opportunities nato will proved us in the future" literally said that! TO BIDEN! TWO MONTHS AGO!
F35 DEAL TODAY TO NATO!!!!!
The lies are, nato is less powerful, if there is a russian federation, nato does not want that, your goverment, and all the other western governments all want nato to be strong, because if it is, then our goverment can offer then more money.
This is an op to make western military and western global trade corperations and markets STRONGER, it empowers and makes the wealthy UBER WEALTHY, we are seizing their competition, and shutting down their markets.
This is a threat to every country in the middle east, this is a threat to china, this is a threat to anyone who does not love and follow america.
Do I think russia felt threatened? I think they have a sense of kinship with the ukraine, and feel that it should be a part of their family. When you read about black people in america, DO YOU NOT THINK THEY ARE BEING OPPRESSED? do you seriously think the conservative half of russia doesnt feel that way about donboss?
Do you know about the different political coups and factions there are in ukraine? Do you relaly believe that anyone who says there is an actual HARD CORE problem with white nationalism in ukraine is propaganda? Do you think that america has that problem, but ukraine doesnt have it worse?!
AT BEST we will have america enshrined as an unstoppable KING of the world.
Ukraine will either join us, or die. By russias hands, or the civil war that follows.
This is 1:1 afghanastan in 1990, the exact same fucking thing. We armed the taliban, and gave them afghanastan, we didnt pick up the pieces, like we wont in the ukraine, and it resulted in 9.11...
imagine if a neo nazi armed group does that in Ukraine and had that same success? You think Russia wouldn't go to war with them again? And again and again and again?!
The left is not thinking this through, and acting on passion.
Exactly like Iraq. Exactly like Afghanistan. Exactly like Vietnam. This is no different.
Anyone who is pro war now is going to have to say, "well I just didnt know what I was thinking at the time"
cd288
03-15-2022, 06:33 PM
I know! They are getting the ukrainians to die for them, this is why I am upset!!!!
So you want us to go in there with our military and fight russia instead?
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 06:37 PM
No i think its too late.
I think what Im seeing now, is making me blieve that russia will never give up.
This may sound crazy to your "never give up warrior" spirit, but I think we need to admit that WE underestemated PUTIN and RUSSIA as a whole's will, and tenacity.. And we need to take a step back, re-asses, and come to some sort of an agreement.
The question I have for you is, what do we do if in 2 months we're looking at 1 million dead ukrainans and basically a half red ukrainian map?
cd288
03-15-2022, 06:47 PM
No i think its too late.
I think what Im seeing now, is making me blieve that russia will never give up.
This may sound crazy to your "never give up warrior" spirit, but I think we need to admit that WE underestemated PUTIN and RUSSIA as a whole's will, and tenacity.. And we need to take a step back, re-asses, and come to some sort of an agreement.
The question I have for you is, what do we do if in 2 months we're looking at 1 million dead ukrainans and basically a half red ukrainian map?
Ok so are you saying that we should have been willing to step in militarily early and put a stop to this? As in like deploying a ton of troops over there as a deterrent? Also I never said we didn’t underestimate russia, I’m not sure why you keep putting all these words and thoughts onto me that I literally never once expressed.
I mean I think we’re not going to do anything once russia takes over Ukraine completely. We’ll keep sanctions in place and in the meantime I think you’ll see countries like Sweden etc requesting to join NATO. And then I think nothing further will happen because I don’t think Putin will actually attack a NATO country. That’s the whole reason he didn’t want Ukraine to join NATO, he knows he can never win if he actually attacks NATO
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 06:51 PM
Ok so are you saying that we should have been willing to step in militarily early and put a stop to this? As in like deploying a ton of troops over there as a deterrent?
Trump didn't need to do any of that and Putin didn't invade when he was Prez ....
Strong leadership is a deterrent. Biden weak and pathetic so Pudding made his move.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 07:03 PM
Ok so are you saying that we should have been willing to step in militarily early and put a stop to this?
yeah, I believe that the reason it didn't happen 3 years ago was because like most Americans, Putin thought trump was totally unhinged and crazy and would drop the full force of the American military just for the Viagra effect.
As in like deploying a ton of troops over there as a deterrent? Also I never said we didn’t underestimate Russia, I’m not sure why you keep putting all these words and thoughts onto me that I literally never once expressed.
When they brought the blood to the border, Biden was telling people to get out.
He should have said, "If you brought blood to the border, that was both your first mistake and the only thing you'll have done right. Because you're gonna need it now." And moved every god damn troop available to the other borders. Yea.
I would have called him reckless, and said he was threatening world war. But guess who would have also thought that? Putin. Cus deep down he's a bitch. That's why it's been TWENTY YEARS for him to have the gall to try to pull this shit off. The guy is a bitch boy!!!!! (The left gives him more credit than Tucker! Think about it, they made it seem like he orchestrated a completely stolen election, without even so much as leaving a trace he is THAT GOOD! lol smh)
I mean I think we’re not going to do anything once russia takes over Ukraine completely.
Yep, I agree 100% and I think because we encouraged the Ukrainians to fight back, they will until the bitter end. Thus, we will have accidentally crated a genocide when the last Russian battalion, kills the last Ukrainian standing. (this is my greatest fear)
We’ll keep sanctions in place and in the meantime I think you’ll see countries like Sweden etc requesting to join NATO
Yes true, but you will also see China creating a stronger economy in the east, one you could borrow from that wont threaten to sanction you if you dont listen to America. Pretty attractive to half or more than half of the world...
And then I think nothing further will happen because I don’t think Putin will actually attack a NATO country.
yep, they will show the world that the west was unstable, that Russia is both strong but rational, and that people should buy Chinese treasury bonds instead of ours.
That’s the whole reason he didn’t want Ukraine to join NATO, he knows he can never win if he actually attacks NATO
And now he wont have to. Losing ukraine to russia, will not make NATO stronger.
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 07:26 PM
Suddenly that 30 trillion in debt looks like a massive house of cards about to go tumbling down
If the Petrodollar collapses cuz of Biden's failed leadership we're in a world of pain. Current flation and gas prices will seem like sunshine and rainbows compared to what they will become
Lefties so stupid they will still demand we go green and all buy Teslas. They literally that brainwashed and stupid.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 07:35 PM
https://youtu.be/wfvMXIIh8sQ
https://i.imgur.com/C87xx6T.jpg?fb
BlackBellamy
03-15-2022, 07:40 PM
The question I have for you is, what do we do if in 2 months we're looking at 1 million dead ukrainans and basically a half red ukrainian map?
Keep fighting you coward! Comrade Stalin demands all troops fight to the utmost against the invaders! Deserters will be shot!
That's what you do. You fucking put your head down until the shelling stops and you charge the enemy screaming hurraaaaah hurraaaaah! You close in and you kill and you keep spraying until they're all dead and then you reload and go looking for more! And if you should be hit, fall at the enemy clutching a grenade in your hand and yell out For Socialism and Mother Russia!
When the Russians did it it in 1942 they were called heroes! They lost city after city, Kiev, Odessa, Minsk, Mariupol, Rostov, all shelled and burned, civilians killed and terrorized, the Red Army pounded and pounded. Millions dead. The Germans got to Stalingrad and everyone knows what happened there. A Glorious and Heroic Sacrifice stopped them cold. Very cold.
Russia saved Europe from Germany at terrible cost and they were lauded by the world for their effort, courage and heroism, the despicable ideology of their country notwithstanding, because they were willing to pay the cost. They didn't want to live as Nazi slaves. It's perfectly understandable that the Ukrainians don't want to live as Russian slaves. And they are also willing to pay the cost.
How much are they willing to pay I don't know. Russia lost 27 million out of 195 or 14% of their population in WW2. So Ukraine can afford to lose 6 million give or take if you want to put a number on it.
Jibartik
03-15-2022, 07:47 PM
Ok so if 6 million dead, and the fighting is not goin to end, they are going to hit 12 million the year after, keep going? When do you stop?
Or do we go into world war at the 6 million mark? Because WRONG I'm not going to world war, I'd civil war before that (At least be open to the idea).
cd288
03-15-2022, 07:55 PM
Trump didn't need to do any of that and Putin didn't invade when he was Prez ....
Strong leadership is a deterrent. Biden weak and pathetic so Pudding made his move.
Sorry man the adults are speaking. Go sit back down at the kids table and play with your coloring book or something
Horza
03-15-2022, 08:05 PM
Seems like I'm seeing retarded NPC memes straight out of 2016 just about everywhere now since Musk tweeted one.
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 08:27 PM
Seems like I'm seeing retarded NPC memes straight out of 2016 just about everywhere now since Musk tweeted one.
Bro you've recently tried to post NPC memes
You do it all the time tryin to hijack the meme but fail
Failure is the only thing you good at
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 08:30 PM
Sorry man the adults are speaking. Go sit back down at the kids table and play with your coloring book or something
lol dude
you just dodgin and lashin out cuz you can't deal with the facts
I feelz
Horza
03-15-2022, 08:53 PM
Bro you've recently tried to post NPC memes
You do it all the time tryin to hijack the meme but fail
Failure is the only thing you good at
Now my post really makes no sense at all with the context deleted :(
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 08:57 PM
US has enough domestic supply to be completely self sufficient and supply our allies in Europe but Global Warming or something so many Ukrainians have to die for the leftist cult cause
We couldn't supply all the oil Europe needs even if we wanted to, but hang on to that feeling (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs), kid. 🇺🇲
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 09:12 PM
We couldn't supply all the oil Europe needs even if we wanted to, but hang on to that feeling (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs), kid. 🇺🇲
Sure we could
Problem is lefties fell for Russian Propaganda
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/596304-investigate-russias-covert-funding-of-us-anti-fossil-fuel-groups
Investigate Russia's covert funding of US anti-fossil fuel groups
In 2014 – the same year Russia annexed Crimea – then-North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen warned that Russia was covertly working to undermine European and U.S. fossil fuel production.
Three years later, in 2017, Reps. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) and Randy Weber (R-Texas) sent a lengthy letter to then-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin making a similar accusation. Importantly, their letter connected some of the dots highlighting Russia’s covert efforts to fund various environmental organizations that were trying to limit or end U.S. hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, for shale gas and oil.
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 09:22 PM
Sure we could
Problem is lefties fell for Russian Propaganda
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/596304-investigate-russias-covert-funding-of-us-anti-fossil-fuel-groups
It's not a matter of resource, it's transport. It would be larger than Overlord and on an ongoing basis.
There is no such fleet and it would imperil us to create one.
Elizondo
03-15-2022, 09:26 PM
It's not a matter of resource, it's transport. It would be larger than Overlord and on an ongoing basis.
There is no such fleet and it would imperil us to create one.
Bro we could get it done
Didn't help Biden bailed on the EastMed Pipeline either
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 09:29 PM
Bro we could get it done
Didn't help Biden bailed on the EastMed Pipeline either
I rate this pivot as fair. :)
Reiwa
03-15-2022, 11:44 PM
Burn in hell where you and every busher belongs.
Derakor'd (https://www.commentary.org/articles/john-podhoretz/neoconservatism-ukraine-russia/)
In 2022, the idea that Vladimir Putin’s Russia would actually roll the tanks and march the soldiers across the border into Ukraine seemed so irrational and peculiar to the Western consciousness that most of us—and in that “us” I would even include the heroic Volodymyr Zelensky—were living in a kind of weird haze of disbelief and denial that it could even happen.
Then it did.
And we will prevail over these anti-Americans just as the neocons of the 1970s defeated the cognoscenti of their day, because our approach is right and our cause is just.
Mblake1981
03-16-2022, 12:00 AM
Since people are cringe-posting Leary..
0eqP1FL-fwg
Reiwa
03-16-2022, 12:07 AM
Since people are cringe-posting Leary..
0eqP1FL-fwg
THE MUNICH METAPHOR (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1990/08/21/the-munich-metaphor/0889292f-4967-4053-bc59-57a9efb9dd2a/)
As he has before -- and as he probably will again -- President Bush yesterday alluded to Munich, the German city synonymous with appeasement, to explain why the United States must stop Iraq's Saddam Hussein. Speaking to the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Baltimore, Bush said: "Half a century ago the world had a chance to stop a ruthless aggressor and missed it." This time, he pledged, the United States would not make the same mistake.
Mblake1981
03-16-2022, 12:09 AM
We traded a working economy for intellectualism.
-sent from my iPhone
Mblake1981
03-16-2022, 12:13 AM
N0BAxOR4yBI
Jibartik
03-16-2022, 12:15 AM
We traded a working economy for intellectualism.
-sent from my iPhone
https://i.imgur.com/9pNYoja.png
Reiwa
03-16-2022, 12:18 AM
N0BAxOR4yBI
You don't like pre-September either?
That's bullshit!
Mblake1981
03-16-2022, 12:21 AM
You don't like pre-September either?
That's bullshit!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
Jibartik
03-16-2022, 12:35 AM
https://i.imgur.com/llXYDQj.png
Mblake1981
03-16-2022, 12:54 AM
Amen
Patriam1066
03-16-2022, 08:07 AM
Of course your ass thinks its safe.
You were down with killing a million iraqis for false reasons and youre down with killing a million ukrainians without even know where that country is.
Burn in hell where you and every busher belongs.
It pisses me off so much, that you voted for war in Afghanistan and iraq, and now you switched to MY PARTY, and are voting for war in ukraine because of the same unverified intelligence.
We don’t have to buy or sell anything to Russia. The Ukrainians are killing invaders, not us
Anything else you need clarified?
starkind
03-16-2022, 08:52 AM
4 Reiwa
https://i.imgur.com/OMHVgrS.jpg
�� :p
Gustoo
03-16-2022, 12:48 PM
Musk Tusk Bucks just in time for new world order https://spacex-protocol-token.us/?fbclid=IwAR2gSjjMHI_M1NorGrt6Chh76EpHwwOdB_vmZi8T Ng11cSWMOx9h0N6rJuA
Horza
03-16-2022, 04:23 PM
Russia implemented counter-sanctions against U.S. figures in response to our sanctions and the list includes only Democratic politicians and members of Democratic administrations.
lol
Gustoo
03-16-2022, 04:26 PM
Source for that? Sounds hilarious
Horza
03-16-2022, 04:32 PM
Source for that? Sounds hilarious
According to a statement issued by the Russian Foreign Ministry, the government is adding the following individuals to a "stop list," barring them from entering Russia: Biden, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, Biden national security adviser Jake Sullivan, CIA Director William Burns, White House press secretary Jen Psaki, deputy national security adviser Daleep Singh, USAID Director Samantha Power, Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Adewale Adeyemo, and U.S. Export-Import Bank President Reta Jo Lewis.
The "stop list" also includes other non-governmental individuals, including the President's son, Hunter Biden, and former U.S. presidential candidate and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/15/politics/biden-us-officials-russia-sanctions/index.html)
Gustoo
03-16-2022, 04:50 PM
Seems like a PR play since none of those leading democrats are considering setting foot in russia right now. The exclusion of republicans is obvious and intentional but also they aren't currently in the white house. It's good rage-bait though (look how republicans are so friendly with russia they don't even get banned from entering!) which is exactly the kinda shit russia wants to do to USA, make us hate eachother.
unsunghero
03-16-2022, 05:14 PM
Ha ha, I can still go to Russia. Nya na nya na na!
BlackBellamy
03-16-2022, 09:27 PM
Derakor'd (https://www.commentary.org/articles/john-podhoretz/neoconservatism-ukraine-russia/)
Those guys were wrong too.
The failure to deter Russia from attacking the Ukraine is a result of multiple failures across a wide spectrum of administrations since the early 90s.
We attacked Iraq because the neocons. Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld et al.
We attacked Iraq exactly like Russia attacked the Ukraine.
definition of ‘imminent threat’ was adapted by neoconservatives in the NSS, arguing that because Saddam Hussein was not deterrable, it was inevitable that Iraq posed a threat to US security. Therefore, the US had a legitimate case to use pre-emptive force against Iraq.
https://www.e-ir.info/2015/09/17/the-iraq-invasion-the-neoconservative-perspective/
We lied to everyone about WMDs just like the Russians lied about Ukrainian nuclear ambitions. We lied about terrorists being there just like the Russians are lying about the Nazis. We lied that the Iraqis were going to welcome us with open arms and so...yeah.
We invaded their country for no reason, we killed a ton of people, we definitely blew up schools and hospitals and shit. Imagine the Iraqi people wandering around their blown up buildings, their towns destroyed all because 'insurgents' were there. The entire city of Fallujah was a 'valid' military target. No tall apartment blocks smoking in slow motion from a drone and the dead babies were all the wrong color and far away and man our brave boys were taking a lot of fire so we had to call in the precision-not-so-precise love from the sky. Later we're all like hey all you shell-shocked civilians it's cool now, we killed your leaders and also the soldiers, so your sons we guess, destroyed your houses and a lot of other stuff, put in our puppet government and also we're in charge of your oil. Have a great day, you are free!
The neocons did that. I'm not saying we shouldn't be aggressive towards Russia, but we shouldn't be taking specific advice from people who seem to be gloating about how right they were when they are still dripping blood from their own abattoir.
There's a happy medium I'm sure. Somewhere between the feckless and spineless liberals and the warmongering neocons is a group that can destroy all the evil in the world while keeping us pure. Maybe Zac Snyder's Extended Cut Justice League idk.
Reiwa
03-16-2022, 11:04 PM
Those guys were wrong too.
The failure to deter Russia from attacking the Ukraine is a result of multiple failures across a wide spectrum of administrations since the early 90s.
We attacked Iraq because the neocons. Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld et al.
We attacked Iraq exactly like Russia attacked the Ukraine.
https://www.e-ir.info/2015/09/17/the-iraq-invasion-the-neoconservative-perspective/
We lied to everyone about WMDs just like the Russians lied about Ukrainian nuclear ambitions. We lied about terrorists being there just like the Russians are lying about the Nazis. We lied that the Iraqis were going to welcome us with open arms and so...yeah.
We invaded their country for no reason, we killed a ton of people, we definitely blew up schools and hospitals and shit. Imagine the Iraqi people wandering around their blown up buildings, their towns destroyed all because 'insurgents' were there. The entire city of Fallujah was a 'valid' military target. No tall apartment blocks smoking in slow motion from a drone and the dead babies were all the wrong color and far away and man our brave boys were taking a lot of fire so we had to call in the precision-not-so-precise love from the sky. Later we're all like hey all you shell-shocked civilians it's cool now, we killed your leaders and also the soldiers, so your sons we guess, destroyed your houses and a lot of other stuff, put in our puppet government and also we're in charge of your oil. Have a great day, you are free!
The neocons did that. I'm not saying we shouldn't be aggressive towards Russia, but we shouldn't be taking specific advice from people who seem to be gloating about how right they were when they are still dripping blood from their own abattoir.
There's a happy medium I'm sure. Somewhere between the feckless and spineless liberals and the warmongering neocons is a group that can destroy all the evil in the world while keeping us pure. Maybe Zac Snyder's Extended Cut Justice League idk.
Depends if you think Baathists or Azovs are the real Nazis.
Hint: it's both
starkind
03-16-2022, 11:17 PM
Big update
Carefully curated, easy-to-read Ukraine updates with sources, for people lacking time but wanting to be informed. https://imgur.com/gallery/24k4V7w
The heck with syndicated news (ya I know that the sourcing is syndicated news at least I don't need to try to read their shit articles and feckless media)
Botten
03-16-2022, 11:24 PM
13th March, 2022
Russia-Ukraine war | 'No One Was Tougher On Russia Than Me' Brags Trump, Slams Biden's Weak Response On Ukraine (https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/donald-trump-says-no-one-was-tougher-on-russia-than-me-slams-bidens-incompetence-articleshow.html)
And
The Russian Foreign Ministry announced on Tuesday that it is imposing sanctions on President Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and others as tensions escalate between Russia and the West over Russia's invasion of Ukraine. (https://thehill.com/policy/international/598270-russia-imposes-sanctions-on-president-biden-and-secretaries-blinken)
No Sanctions on the toughest person on Russia?
Oh that's right Trump lied and Trump is a traitor.
Elizondo
03-17-2022, 12:04 AM
13th March, 2022
Russia-Ukraine war | 'No One Was Tougher On Russia Than Me' Brags Trump, Slams Biden's Weak Response On Ukraine (https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/donald-trump-says-no-one-was-tougher-on-russia-than-me-slams-bidens-incompetence-articleshow.html)
And
The Russian Foreign Ministry announced on Tuesday that it is imposing sanctions on President Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and others as tensions escalate between Russia and the West over Russia's invasion of Ukraine. (https://thehill.com/policy/international/598270-russia-imposes-sanctions-on-president-biden-and-secretaries-blinken)
No Sanctions on the toughest person on Russia?
Oh that's right Trump lied and Trump is a traitor.
Pudding knew who was boss when Orange Super Prez sat on the throne
That's why he didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was in charge. US had strength in the oval office. Biden weak, senile and pathetic so Pudding made his move
jo-Jiil1Ues
Jimjam
03-17-2022, 12:49 AM
13th March, 2022
Russia-Ukraine war | 'No One Was Tougher On Russia Than Me' Brags Trump, Slams Biden's Weak Response On Ukraine (https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/donald-trump-says-no-one-was-tougher-on-russia-than-me-slams-bidens-incompetence-articleshow.html)
And
The Russian Foreign Ministry announced on Tuesday that it is imposing sanctions on President Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and others as tensions escalate between Russia and the West over Russia's invasion of Ukraine. (https://thehill.com/policy/international/598270-russia-imposes-sanctions-on-president-biden-and-secretaries-blinken)
No Sanctions on the toughest person on Russia?
Oh that's right Trump lied and Trump is a traitor.
Even if Trump were the toughest on Russia, why would Russia put sanctions on him now when as far as I know Trump doesn’t hold any real power? He isn’t president...
Horza
03-17-2022, 12:51 AM
You seen the size of the diapers your Orange Super Prez was wearing? Pretty intimidating!
Elizondo
03-17-2022, 01:14 AM
You seen the size of the diapers your Orange Super Prez was wearing? Pretty intimidating!
Bro the only prez fillin up some Depends is Biden
Everybody knows it, Spider Camper
unsunghero
03-17-2022, 01:15 AM
Even if Trump were the toughest on Russia, why would Russia put sanctions on him now when as far as I know Trump doesn’t hold any real power? He isn’t president...
Supposedly he banned Hillary from comin into Russia when he did Biden
I’m a conservative tho so I can still come in. Nya ya nya ya ya!
unsunghero
03-17-2022, 01:20 AM
Putin is orthodox Russian religious, or poses to be to be religious, and has always had a more favorable opinion of conservatives than democrats based on their characteristics
Of course that means all conservative Christians are evil. Also, Hitler liked dogs, so all dog owners are also evil
Reiwa
03-17-2022, 01:41 AM
Putin is orthodox Russian religious, or poses to be to be religious, and has always had a more favorable opinion of conservatives than democrats based on their characteristics
Of course that means all conservative Christians are evil. Also, Hitler liked dogs, so all dog owners are also evil
German shepherds are evil for sure
Jibartik
03-17-2022, 03:18 AM
Putin was getting nothing out of it during trump what a stupid idea that is that trump was "doing putins work in ukraine for him" lol what an asinine stupid confidently incorrect mainstream media talking point bullshit to parrot.
The left and west couldn't be more behind ukraine and they're still are like "hell no, you cant be in NATO" lol wtf was trump doing to make them joining less than that?!?!?!
Not a single thing trump did was "helping putin own ukraine". What a stupid person you'd have to be to think putin was happy about what was going on in ukraine while trump was in office, and then when biden wins putin decides "oh well I guess I have to blow it up now"
Idiot leftist idiots i hate you like north hated the south.
Trexller
03-17-2022, 03:31 AM
hunter biden sat on the board of a ukrainian gas company, and paid at least 10% of his salary to joe biden
trump made a big hubbub about shit going down there, tried to get info out of its leadership in exchange for boom booms, and the russians claim that U.S. biolabs are there.
Can't we all at least agree that there is some weird shit going down in that country, regardless of your political leanings? That would be swell
then we could put our brains together and try to figure out what the fuck is actually going on.
then the FBI will burn down our houses
unsunghero
03-17-2022, 03:42 AM
German shepherds are evil for sure
Lol
Naw way man. We had German shepherds growin up; they were so easy to train they didn’t even need commands eventually, they could just read facial expressions. It was like they were psychic
Jibartik
03-17-2022, 03:51 AM
Theres a german attack dog i forget the type but its eyes dont reflect light when you shine light in them so at night they could kill people like ninjas in the dark like raptors in jurrasic park. Also they look like batman and stare in silence in the dark at you while you take a piss camping and you see this big beefy body with sharp ears silhouetted in the dark when you turn out of nowhere it literally was the most scared I was in my life then the dog was like HELLO FRIEN *WAG WAG WAG after he scared my soul into vapor
Jimjam
03-17-2022, 04:59 AM
https://m.facebook.com/miniart.models/
Ukraine based toy soldier manufacturer. They’ve been updating their page with photographs of the local situation.
Jimjam
03-17-2022, 05:00 AM
https://m.facebook.com/miniart.models/
Ukraine based toy soldier manufacturer. They’ve been updating their page with photographs of the local situation.
Jan135
03-17-2022, 06:14 AM
It would seem that the Ukrainian soldiers are really capable of fighting back agains the russians. Russians seem desperate. The rumors suggest that russian officials are trying to get supplies from China. I know that it's a mere rumor, but there is a base for it. Russian soldiers are starving, they are raiding grosery stores in the Ukraine and Belarus.
BlackBellamy
03-17-2022, 09:17 AM
hunter biden sat on the board of a ukrainian gas company, and paid at least 10% of his salary to joe biden
trump made a big hubbub about shit going down there, tried to get info out of its leadership in exchange for boom booms, and the russians claim that U.S. biolabs are there.
Can't we all at least agree that there is some weird shit going down in that country, regardless of your political leanings? That would be swell
then we could put our brains together and try to figure out what the fuck is actually going on.
then the FBI will burn down our houses
Oh yeah! Ukraine is one hell of a corrupt country. Heard stories of what it's like to do business there, you either have to pay off the Galician faction or the Eastern mafia. First one has that Nazi flavor but the latter is surprisingly...Semitic. Weird bedfellows but ok.
Still, it's the kind of corruption that can be cured. It's a product of conditions, not endemic to the soul like Russian paranoia for example.
starkind
03-17-2022, 09:32 AM
Sorry jimjam. Can't do facebook.
Putin is orthodox Russian religious, or poses to be to be religious, and has always had a more favorable opinion of conservatives than democrats based on their characteristics
Of course that means all conservative Christians are evil. Also, Hitler liked dogs, so all dog owners are also evil
German shepherds are evil for sure
Lol
Naw way man. We had German shepherds growin up; they were so easy to train they didn’t even need commands eventually, they could just read facial expressions. It was like they were psychic
Theres a german attack dog i forget the type but its eyes dont reflect light when you shine light in them so at night they could kill people like ninjas in the dark like raptors in jurrasic park. Also they look like batman and stare in silence in the dark at you while you take a piss camping and you see this big beefy body with sharp ears silhouetted in the dark when you turn out of nowhere it literally was the most scared I was in my life then the dog was like HELLO FRIEN *WAG WAG WAG after he scared my soul into vapor
He dead https://imgur.com/gallery/fviJK6f
starkind
03-17-2022, 10:22 AM
Russian babushkas fighting for some sugar https://imgur.com/gallery/ZkxRy0S
In America 10s of millions in heavy duty scooters would be swarming the presidential palaces.
BlackBellamy
03-17-2022, 11:40 AM
Russian babushkas fighting for some sugar https://imgur.com/gallery/ZkxRy0S
In America 10s of millions in heavy duty scooters would be swarming the presidential palaces.
That guy in the blue jacket is a pro. He's got a plastic basket between his legs and he's topping it off.
Russia produced a surplus of sugar in excess of 1.6 million tons in 2020
Russia is a net sugar exporter. With exports cut, the country should be awash in it.
That people are panic buying means that:
1) Rumors. "I heard there's a sugar shortage!". Russians automatically believe such rumors and queue up.
2) Distribution issues. Unable to deliver sugar to store because roads and trains are now clogged with candy tanks and chocolate missiles.
3) Production issues. Unable to produce sugar because sugar factory is now producing cluster bombs. Clusters of candy!
BlackBellamy
03-17-2022, 12:59 PM
The Poles are agitating for war.
I mean for more war.
"I would like to refer to the consciences of European leaders, to the principles they preach, because Ukraine needs help. I believe that a NATO peacekeeping mission that will be able to defend itself and help Ukraine is needed" -- Polish Deputy Prime Minister meeting Zelensky in Kiev yesterday. He took the train to Kiev just to say that.
translated from https://polskatimes.pl/kaczynski-w-kijowie-potrzebna-misja-pokojowa-nato-na-ukrainie/ar/c1-16100831
So "let's send NATO troops into the Ukraine please" from the Poles. The ones with the "we have Mig-29s right now take them" thing.
Old Polish joke:
A Polish soldier is sitting in his trench. He looks to the west and he sees a German soldier charging at him. He looks to the east and sees a Russian soldier charging at him. Which one does he shoot first?
The German.
Business before pleasure.
starkind
03-17-2022, 01:00 PM
That guy in the blue jacket is a pro. He's got a plastic basket between his legs and he's topping it off.
Russia is a net sugar exporter. With exports cut, the country should be awash in it.
That people are panic buying means that:
1) Rumors. "I heard there's a sugar shortage!". Russians automatically believe such rumors and queue up.
2) Distribution issues. Unable to deliver sugar to store because roads and trains are now clogged with candy tanks and chocolate missiles.
3) Production issues. Unable to produce sugar because sugar factory is now producing cluster bombs. Clusters of candy!
Oof. That is sad. And ya I could see Russians panic buying. A full quarter of them still around from 1970 for sure.
starkind
03-17-2022, 01:02 PM
The Poles are agitating for war.
I mean for more war.
"I would like to refer to the consciences of European leaders, to the principles they preach, because Ukraine needs help. I believe that a NATO peacekeeping mission that will be able to defend itself and help Ukraine is needed" -- Polish Deputy Prime Minister meeting Zelensky in Kiev yesterday. He took the train to Kiev just to say that.
translated from https://polskatimes.pl/kaczynski-w-kijowie-potrzebna-misja-pokojowa-nato-na-ukrainie/ar/c1-16100831
So "let's send NATO troops into the Ukraine please" from the Poles. The ones with the "we have Mig-29s right now take them" thing.
Old Polish joke:
A Polish soldier is sitting in his trench. He looks to the west and he sees a German soldier charging at him. He looks to the east and sees a Russian soldier charging at him. Which one does he shoot first?
The German.
Business before pleasure.
I have went to the family gatherings of a few polish coworkers. None of them had anything good to say about Russians even when I didn't bring it up.
Reiwa
03-17-2022, 01:14 PM
The Poles are agitating for war.
I mean for more war.
"I would like to refer to the consciences of European leaders, to the principles they preach, because Ukraine needs help. I believe that a NATO peacekeeping mission that will be able to defend itself and help Ukraine is needed" -- Polish Deputy Prime Minister meeting Zelensky in Kiev yesterday. He took the train to Kiev just to say that.
translated from https://polskatimes.pl/kaczynski-w-kijowie-potrzebna-misja-pokojowa-nato-na-ukrainie/ar/c1-16100831
So "let's send NATO troops into the Ukraine please" from the Poles. The ones with the "we have Mig-29s right now take them" thing.
Old Polish joke:
A Polish soldier is sitting in his trench. He looks to the west and he sees a German soldier charging at him. He looks to the east and sees a Russian soldier charging at him. Which one does he shoot first?
The German.
Business before pleasure.
Trading mig29s for f16es is just good business.
Horza
03-17-2022, 01:27 PM
hunter biden sat on the board of a ukrainian gas company, and paid at least 10% of his salary to joe biden
trump made a big hubbub about shit going down there, tried to get info out of its leadership in exchange for boom booms, and the russians claim that U.S. biolabs are there.
Can't we all at least agree that there is some weird shit going down in that country, regardless of your political leanings? That would be swell
then we could put our brains together and try to figure out what the fuck is actually going on.
then the FBI will burn down our houses
lol you're still parroting Russian propaganda about how the U.S. secretly engineered Covid-19 in Ukraine.
Jibartik
03-17-2022, 01:33 PM
lol yea listen here libcuck, there are WMDs in iraq and if you dont think so then what are you, a terrorist?!?!?
Horza
03-17-2022, 01:49 PM
lol yea listen here libcuck, there are WMDs in iraq and if you dont think so then what are you, a terrorist?!?!?
You've convinced me, paste eating retard. Now I too think Covid-19 was made and leaked from a military installation on the border with a hostile power that keeps invading it's neighbors and then fabricating cassus belli afterwards.
Reiwa
03-17-2022, 04:09 PM
Ahoy ye Ruski seadogs! Giv' up ya booty or we be sinkin ye deep! (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6869#:~:text=Introduced%20in%20House%20(02%2F28,as sets%20of%20certain%20Russian%20citizens.)
☠️🦜
Gustoo
03-17-2022, 06:46 PM
Ahoy ye Ruski seadogs! Giv' up ya booty or we be sinkin ye deep! (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6869#:~:text=Introduced%20in%20House%20(02%2F28,as sets%20of%20certain%20Russian%20citizens.)
☠️
deserves a second quoting to see real history in the making. A bill to give private entities hall passes to repoman on private russian citizens.
At least they still pass a law to do whatever they want, sometimes.
gotta get some of these soldier of fortune types https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Idema
Trexller
03-17-2022, 06:59 PM
lol you're still parroting Russian propaganda about how the U.S. secretly engineered Covid-19 in Ukraine.
no my friend, I was saying:
Can't we all at least agree that there is some weird shit going down in that country, regardless of your political leanings? That would be swell
Covid19 definitely came from China, there is no question there
I'm saying, everybody who is anybody, has some weird dealings going on in ukraine.
All of them do, dems and republicans
So uh, what the fuck is going on?
Trexller
03-17-2022, 07:01 PM
Task and Purpose youtube channel Ukraine war analysis #5 - As always, no bias, no politics, just this average infantryman's best attempt at clear reporting
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starkind
03-17-2022, 08:18 PM
Will for sure watch.
Meanwhile I agree with this guy:
https://i.imgur.com/rqIZQSe.jpeg
It's not that they'd be completely useless. Just expensive, costly and all eventually shot down.
Would be better for Ukraine to get some patriot missile systems.
Botten
03-18-2022, 08:05 AM
A recent report says there’s only 10 more days of fighting available for Russia and finances and resources are drying up thanks to NATO.
Elizondo going to hate that this will be seen as a win to the Biden administration. Sanctions working.
Knowledge
03-18-2022, 08:42 AM
The press tried to call Putin the "richest man in the world" when they know damn well the Rothschild family is.
Reiwa
03-18-2022, 10:45 AM
Burger King franchise 'refuses' to close 800 Russian restaurants (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/business-food/burger-king-russia-joint-venture/index.html)
Burger King is trying to suspend its operations in Russia, but that's proving difficult. A business partner controlling 800 restaurants has "refused" to close them, the company said.
The burger chain, owned by Restaurant Brands International (QSR), has a joint venture partnership with businessman Alexander Kolobov in Russia. RBI controls just 15% of its Russian Burger King business, and Kolobov is responsible for the "day-to-day operations and oversight" of its locations in the country.
Elizondo
03-18-2022, 10:54 AM
A recent report says there’s only 10 more days of fighting available for Russia and finances and resources are drying up thanks to NATO.
Elizondo going to hate that this will be seen as a win to the Biden administration. Sanctions working.
lol @ Botten actually believing that
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 11:05 AM
[B]Task and Purpose youtube channel Ukraine war analysis #5 - As always, no bias, no politics, just this average infantryman's best attempt at clear reporting
So ironic that legacy media here bans all Russian content calling it “misinformation” while Putin shuts down all negative press about the war there calling it “traitorous”
They are one and the same when it comes to attempting to brainwash their own citizens with their propaganda. One and the same
starkind
03-18-2022, 11:13 AM
We are the same. Soon as Russia is done being the world's pariah. US is next on the chopping block.
See u in Nur Sultan real soon!
Reiwa
03-18-2022, 11:20 AM
So ironic that legacy media here bans all Russian content calling it “misinformation” while Putin shuts down all negative press about the war there calling it “traitorous”
They are one and the same when it comes to attempting to brainwash their own citizens with their propaganda. One and the same
Can't wait for the US to have "anti-corruption" laws. :rolleyes:
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 12:00 PM
Can't wait for the US to have "anti-corruption" laws. :rolleyes:
Wouldn’t fix the problem. Seems like the laws address bribery in the political system, which is another separate problem
I don’t think our government bribes legacy media and big tech to push only its propaganda. It doesn’t need to. It is just pure tribalism; you don’t need to bribe people with money who already hold all the same political opinions as yourself. Just staff these companies only with 1 political party, and they will do what you want them to do, no money required
BlackBellamy
03-18-2022, 12:22 PM
Ok, I'm going to officially call it.
Russian Defeat.
Now it's just a matter of how bad it will be.
Today is three weeks. Russia has sustained terrible casualties, lost an incredible amount of vehicles and airframes, and has not made any progress on the ground in a week. They have actually been pushed back in some places like Mikolayev. They have not taken Mariupol yet, a city forecasted to fall in the first couple of days, surrounded and cut off.
They are done.
Putin will now increase civilian deaths and infrastructure losses to force more favorable terms.
Hopefully Zelensky will hold firm as the Russian negotiating position deteriorates. They already lost a bunch of civilians and infrastructure. To guarantee a more lasting peace it's worth losing more. That's pretty cold but you're making an investment in the future with the sacrifices of today. If you don't beat the invader badly, they'll just kill you down the road.
Jibartik
03-18-2022, 12:23 PM
Someone once pranked me by telling me some russian flew a mig to the USA to escape the USSR and the USA let him keep it and he lived on a farm and had a mig.
I just wanted something like that to be true!
If I had a mig right now Id just fly it to the mountains and live in a shack with a mig outside of it.
starkind
03-18-2022, 12:29 PM
Someone did defect from NK tho without even knowing there was a reward. I posted the link and forgot already. You should do some research. He lived quite well and got a job in the defense and aerospace industry.
Jibartik
03-18-2022, 12:41 PM
He lived quite well and got a job in the defense and aerospace industry.
Im sure they were like, wow this guy is astute and he works super hard.
Then he pulls out an abacus to do some math problems at work and they all lost it.
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 01:33 PM
Ok, I'm going to officially call it.
Russian Defeat.
Now it's just a matter of how bad it will be.
Today is three weeks. Russia has sustained terrible casualties, lost an incredible amount of vehicles and airframes, and has not made any progress on the ground in a week. They have actually been pushed back in some places like Mikolayev. They have not taken Mariupol yet, a city forecasted to fall in the first couple of days, surrounded and cut off.
They are done.
Putin will now increase civilian deaths and infrastructure losses to force more favorable terms.
Hopefully Zelensky will hold firm as the Russian negotiating position deteriorates. They already lost a bunch of civilians and infrastructure. To guarantee a more lasting peace it's worth losing more. That's pretty cold but you're making an investment in the future with the sacrifices of today. If you don't beat the invader badly, they'll just kill you down the road.
While I wish this was correct, the most recent vid that actually has information from
Russia such as what advances they have made, the person seems pretty knowledgeable on the subject and is saying that Russia will capture Kyiv by end of april
Horza
03-18-2022, 01:33 PM
So ironic that legacy media here bans all Russian content calling it “misinformation” while Putin shuts down all negative press about the war there calling it “traitorous”
They are one and the same when it comes to attempting to brainwash their own citizens with their propaganda. One and the same
Not sure how blocking state propaganda outlets that are controlled by a 21st century Hitler is the same as criminalizing all dissent. If you criticized government policies like this in Russia, you'd already be locked up or conveniently fall out a window.
Jibartik
03-18-2022, 01:35 PM
Your heros conspired to silence the truth to win an election, and they're doing it now to start a world war something must be done I demand an impeachment and we seat trump at the head of congress!
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 01:41 PM
Not sure how blocking state propaganda outlets that are controlled by a 21st century Hitler is the same as criminalizing all dissent. If you criticized government policies like this in Russia, you'd already be locked up or conveniently fall out a window.
It’s just that “misinformation” is now a blanket term for any information the current government doesn’t like. Russians do use misinformation (as does Ukraine), but to categorize all Russian news as misinformation is a lie itself. Call it information we don’t like and be honest
“Dangerous misinformation that must be stopped” used to mean things that could cost American lives by creating vaccine hesitancy. Now lo and behold “misinformation” is being abused to push only government propaganda. Which could ironically cost American lives on a massive scale beyond vaccine hesitancy if it drags us into a world war
Horza
03-18-2022, 01:48 PM
It’s just that “misinformation” is now a blanket term for any information the current government doesn’t like. Russians do use misinformation (as does Ukraine), but to categorize all Russian news as misinformation is a lie itself. Call it information we don’t like and be honest
“Dangerous misinformation that must be stopped” used to mean things that could cost American lives by creating vaccine hesitancy. Now lo and behold “misinformation” is being abused to push only government propaganda. Which could ironically cost American lives on a massive scale beyond vaccine hesitancy if it drags us into a world war
If Biden only allows government propaganda to be televised in this country then how do you explain the continued existence of Fox News?
Putin has banned all independent media that he can't control, it's really only comparable if you're a paste eating moron.
Elizondo
03-18-2022, 01:50 PM
Not sure how blocking state propaganda outlets that are controlled by a 21st century Hitler is the same as criminalizing all dissent. If you criticized government policies like this in Russia, you'd already be locked up or conveniently fall out a window.
Spider Camper whines about propaganda
Parrots media that lied and spewed propaganda about Hunter Biden's laptop
Comedy ensues
Jibartik
03-18-2022, 01:52 PM
If Biden only allows government propaganda to be televised in this country then how do you explain the continued existence of Fox News?
because when he does stuff he does it in a way that would be best described as droning carloads of kids or leaving behind billions of dollars and having people fall off airplanes and arming the enemy or flubbering his lines so much he causes world war 3 to start.
tl;dr: he does things very poorly.
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 01:53 PM
If Biden only allows government propaganda to be televised in this country then how do you explain the continued existence of Fox News?
Putin has banned all independent media that he can't control, it's really only comparable if you're a paste eating moron.
Does Fox News broadcast direct feeds of RT? Or any Russian channel. If you’d watch the vid from Trexeller (that seems completely unbiased, I’ve watched two of them now), it says we really actually don’t know how Ukraine is doing because we have no info from any Russian source, we only have info from one side
That is a dangerous proposition to push, only getting information from one side and not letting people see the rest and make their own conclusions. A very dangerous territory we are wading into
Reiwa
03-18-2022, 01:53 PM
because when he does stuff he does it in a way that would be best described as droning carloads of kids or leaving behind billions of dollars and having people fall off airplanes and arming the enemy or flubbering his lines so much he causes world war 3 to start.
tl;dr: he does things very poorly.
Fox probably got some of that journalist money in the infrastructure package.
Horza
03-18-2022, 01:55 PM
because when he does stuff he does it in a way that would be best described as droning carloads of kids or leaving behind billions of dollars and having people fall off airplanes and arming the enemy or flubbering his lines so much he causes world war 3 to start.
tl;dr: he does things very poorly.
Biden is simultaneously all powerful Illuminati and a senile incompetent, you guys really are stupid as hell.
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 01:57 PM
Biden is simultaneously all powerful Illuminati and a senile incompetent, you guys really are stupid as hell.
It’s not Biden, Biden isn’t the CEO of legacy news networks and big tech. It’s democrats in general, and their agenda. And if their agenda is to remove all sources of Russian news, that is what will happen
Keep drinking that koolaid, legacy media just filled your cup
Elizondo
03-18-2022, 02:00 PM
Biden is simultaneously all powerful Illuminati and a senile incompetent, you guys really are stupid as hell.
Bro Biden obviously just a puppet
Horza
03-18-2022, 02:02 PM
It’s not Biden, Biden isn’t the CEO of legacy news networks and big tech. It’s democrats in general, and their agenda. And if their agenda is to remove all sources of Russian news, that is what will happen
Keep drinking that koolaid, legacy media just filled your cup
You lot are starting to sound a little bit desperate without your regular dose of Russian state propaganda.
starkind
03-18-2022, 02:03 PM
If you think republican news is any better than democrat news.
Seek help.
And facts.
(Lol) /\
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 02:06 PM
You guys are starting to sound a little bit desperate without your regular dose of Russian state propaganda.
I know democrats consider you too stupid to be allowed to hear Russian news and come to your own conclusion, but conservatives actually consider individuals as rational adults able to make their own decisions on how they feel about things, and not need to be told how to feel
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 02:07 PM
If you think republican news is any better than democrat news.
Seek help.
And facts.
(Lol) /\
Republican news aren’t calling democrat news traitors for being hesitant about going into WW3 so yes, they are better
unsunghero
03-18-2022, 02:11 PM
I remember one of the last things I heard from Putin was him saying he was going to liberate those territories from Nazis and right away I thought “wow that sounds like a huge lie”
Now democrats have decided “We’re going to protect you from these lies because we don’t trust you to come to the right conclusion. Instead we will be your only source of information because you can trust us. Now let’s talk about WW3 and why it might be necessary”
Horza is right in that it’s not quite at the level of criminalizing dissent, but it’s still fucked up
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