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Jibartik
03-25-2022, 05:46 PM
Get a job dude

ok boomer

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 05:46 PM
But I digress, is Putin admitting he and jibartik got curb stomped and pulling back to Donbas?

I don't think they ever intended to fully conquer a nation of 44 million angry Slavs with 100k troops.

Donbass is a ruin and it's not Russia's doing.

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 05:47 PM
I just don’t know how you tell black people

a people burning Portland to the ground.

those were white communists you racist old boomer.

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 05:50 PM
But I digress, is Putin admitting he and jibartik got curb stomped and pulling back to Donbas?

my prediction is putin will retreat and try to play off taking donbas or whatever those towns are as a total victory


100 pages ago, dungnut.

Gustoo
03-25-2022, 05:52 PM
Yeah but how will the war in Ukraine affect red 2.0 release date?

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 05:52 PM
I don't think they ever intended to fully conquer a nation of 44 million angry Slavs with 100k troops.

Donbass is a ruin and it's not Russia's doing.

You believe Putin? I don’t

Elizondo
03-25-2022, 05:53 PM
Trumptards like our friend here seriously can't tell the difference between sedition and patriotism on account of all the paste eating.

lol

Both of you are being retarded

yea it was worse than 911, nagasaki and hiroshima combined or something

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 05:53 PM
those were white communists you racist old boomer.

I called them crunchy granola, aka white people. Learn to read Putin lover

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 05:54 PM
lol

Both of you are being retarded

yea it was worse than 911, nagasaki and hiroshima combined or something

Did I say that? It’s still a national embarrassment and against the law. You have a vote, that’s it. If you don’t like the outcome, move to Russia

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 05:55 PM
No. this is one sentence:

Definitely agree that rioting for a summer is not acceptable, I just don’t know how you tell black people “please don’t feel aggrieved that George Floyd was killed like a dog in the street”

learn to write better so your old boomer racist busher racism dogwhilstling isnt so obvious.

Gustoo
03-25-2022, 05:55 PM
I think putin expected surrender to his terms with minimum resistence not full dumping of 2000's era decent weapons into ukraines hands to blast old ass russian tanks for sport.

Poor russians.

Poor ukrainians

Contemptible Moscow

Contemptible global system?

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 05:57 PM
Not gonna argue with an unemployed Russian sympathizer who can’t read. Enjoy your perpetual alone time

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 05:58 PM
Imagine being at war with afghanastan for 20 years. Evacuating by blowing up a car of kids, 13 soldiers, and refugies falling off of planes.

and then having the audacity to be holier than though about russia in ukraine right now.

I enjoy my alone time in your gigantic cave like head I live in.

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 05:59 PM
I think putin expected surrender to his terms with minimum resistence not full dumping of 2000's era decent weapons into ukraines hands to blast old ass russian tanks for sport.

Poor russians.

Poor ukrainians

Contemptible Moscow

Contemptible global system?

Hopefully we maintain sanctions until Ukraine takes back crimea and Putin is out of office. We should never buy any Russian goods again until all Russian forces are back within Russia’s borders. Includes Syria, mali, Georgia, Armenia, transnistria, and anywhere else I’m forgetting

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 06:08 PM
https://twitter.com/_A_Vit_/status/1507306242196361217?s=20&t=vG82nTU4ussU0H4vSbAfKQ

I could see that happenig. But one of the things I think the west takes for granted is the russian culture outshining western culture over there. Like we see them wearing adidas and they love all the same movies as us, and their youth is totally gaining ground against the establishment over there.

But this is a country that has been comfortable with not asking why the shadow is pointing in the wrong direction for at like 100 years.

If putin is seen by the entire world, as singularly responsible for every last one of those deaths in ukraine (which he will!) the people of russia, when confronted will say the same thing every other time theyve been confronted with those claims about their leaders, or anything else: this is russia.

So I dont see putin even losing his grip in his homeland. I do see them becoming a shadow of what they were even just a year ago, but I dont see him being taken out and replaced without a world war.

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 06:11 PM
You believe Putin? I don’t

No not Putin. News stories from before Russia even mustered.

Ukraine been beating the shit out of them since they voted to secede (2014).

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 06:16 PM
altho u never know lol

A Russian brigade commander fighting in Ukraine has been run down by his own troops, according to Western officials.

Yuri Medvedev, commanding the 37th Motor Rifle Brigade, is believed to have been deliberately targeted due to anger at the number of casualties his unit experienced.

Horza
03-25-2022, 06:17 PM
lol

Both of you are being retarded

yea it was worse than 911, nagasaki and hiroshima combined or something

Sorry your messianic figure lost so embarrassingly badly, better luck violently stopping the transfer of power next time.

Elizondo
03-25-2022, 06:23 PM
Sorry your messianic figure lost so embarrassingly badly, better luck violently stopping the transfer of power next time.

Orange Super Prez won in a landslide bro

Biden just an installed puppet

Hope that helps

robayon
03-25-2022, 06:40 PM
Russian Standard Vodka is among my favorite vodkas. Theres other good vodkas though.

Not that I would even bother boycotting, no ethical consumption etc, but I would prefer not to pay more for the classics. Costco Vodka it is

Horza
03-25-2022, 06:41 PM
"Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu had a heart attack. Therefore, he has not appeared at official events since mid-March,” writes Anton Gerashchenko, adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 06:48 PM
Orange Super Prez won in a landslide bro

Biden just an installed puppet

Hope that helps

No he didn't. Rules is rules and them's the breaks. 😎🍦

robayon
03-25-2022, 06:51 PM
Orange Super Prez won in a landslide bro

Biden just an installed puppet

Hope that helpsAny news on all the multiple lawsuits over that stolen election? They're gonna get the results overturned soon, right?

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 06:54 PM
Any news on all the multiple lawsuits over that stolen election? They're gonna get the results overturned soon, right?

The fact that the House is sworn in before they count the elector votes tells me that voter fraud is a feature of American Constitutional government, not a bug.

Elizondo
03-25-2022, 06:57 PM
No he didn't. Rules is rules and them's the breaks. 😎🍦

He sure did

Dem Propaganda media also meddled in the election when they buried the legit hunter biden laptop too

Biden not legit. Entire world knows it. It's why Pudding makin big moves.

robayon
03-25-2022, 06:58 PM
The fact that the House is sworn in before they count the elector votes tells me that voter fraud is a feature of American Constitutional government, not a bug.Yes but is it Good or Bad

robayon
03-25-2022, 07:00 PM
He sure did

Dem Propaganda media also meddled in the election when they buried the legit hunter biden laptop too

Biden not legit. Entire world knows it. It's why Pudding makin big moves.A real pickle, someone should notify the secret service immediately that he's not the legitimate president, make sure you have a few drinks before you call

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 07:09 PM
He sure did

Dem Propaganda media also meddled in the election when they buried the legit hunter biden laptop too

Biden not legit. Entire world knows it. It's why Pudding makin big moves.

So far Putin is getting wrecked. Hopefully that continues, but too early to declare victory on that count

Elizondo
03-25-2022, 07:10 PM
A real pickle, someone should notify the secret service immediately that he's not the legitimate president, make sure you have a few drinks before you call

lol dude

He just an installed puppet. Alcohol is bad for you btw

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 07:11 PM
No not Putin. News stories from before Russia even mustered.

Ukraine been beating the shit out of them since they voted to secede (2014).

You don’t think he was trying to take kiev and replace the govt? Why take hostomel early on with special forces? I don’t think he was trying to occupy all of Ukraine, but regime change seems like something that might’ve been planned

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 07:19 PM
You don’t think he was trying to take kiev and replace the govt? Why take hostomel early on with special forces? I don’t think he was trying to occupy all of Ukraine, but regime change seems like something that might’ve been planned

Maybe, I'll think about it.

The fact they never bothered to establish air superiority is a big part of why I believe the limited operation in the east thing. Like as a goal or victory condition.

Horza
03-25-2022, 07:24 PM
Can we talk about the Russian Defense Minister having a heart attack out of a third story window or does every thread need to be about how Hunter was behind Jan. 6?

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 07:29 PM
Can we talk about the Russian Defense Minister having a heart attack out of a third story window or does every thread need to be about how Hunter was behind Jan. 6?

The Defenestration of Pryzovia. :p

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 07:31 PM
Maybe, I'll think about it.

The fact they never bothered to establish air superiority is a big part of why I believe the limited operation in the east thing. Like as a goal or victory condition.

Russia isn’t very capable maybe? They’ve only ever fought Syrians and chechens. Who knows if they could establish air superiority.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just have no idea how any of this makes any sense, especially for Donbas…

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 07:34 PM
Russia isn’t very capable maybe? They’ve only ever fought Syrians and chechens. Who knows if they could establish air superiority.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just have no idea how any of this makes any sense, especially for Donbas…

Ukraine only has shitty 70s Soviet migs. There's no way they could hold serve.

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 07:44 PM
They have 250 S-300

Russia doesn’t have 500 f-15s and pilots like the wild weasels. Disagree with the idea it would be easy for Russia to take out that much AA. That said, I have no idea. I would’ve thought russia more capable than they’ve shown themselves to be so far. But if this was only for Donbas, this makes even less sense than I thought at the outset

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 07:55 PM
They have 250 S-300

Russia doesn’t have 500 f-15s and pilots like the wild weasels. Disagree with the idea it would be easy for Russia to take out that much AA. That said, I have no idea. I would’ve thought russia more capable than they’ve shown themselves to be so far. But if this was only for Donbas, this makes even less sense than I thought at the outset

They ought to easily be able to smoke their own gear from 30 years ago, unless it was really that good. I don't know either.

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 08:05 PM
They ought to easily be able to smoke their own gear from 30 years ago, unless it was really that good. I don't know either.

I don’t think that’s the case. They mostly use Su-24s for ground targets and those are 30-40 years old. Pretty much Israel and the US are the only militaries who have trained to hit air defense targets on the ground. I think you’re underestimating the difficulty, and 250 Su-300s is a huge number in conjunction with all of the stingers we’ve sent for lower altitude targets

/shrug. I def don’t think they wanted western Ukraine, but this wasn’t only about Donbas and Luhansk imo

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 08:17 PM
I don’t think that’s the case. They mostly use Su-24s for ground targets and those are 30-40 years old. Pretty much Israel and the US are the only militaries who have trained to hit air defense targets on the ground. I think you’re underestimating the difficulty, and 250 Su-300s is a huge number in conjunction with all of the stingers we’ve sent for lower altitude targets

/shrug. I def don’t think they wanted western Ukraine, but this wasn’t only about Donbas and Luhansk imo

Bellamy would know more about the geography, maybe wanted to set the new border at the Dnieper river. Or that's for next time lol.

They really don't like NATO having an open field to come at them, братан !

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 08:31 PM
Mad Max: Beyond Kekkonen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdKmOGMrzuM)

Broke my rule :(

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 09:30 PM
You don’t think he was trying to take kiev and replace the govt? Why take hostomel early on with special forces? I don’t think he was trying to occupy all of Ukraine, but regime change seems like something that might’ve been planned

I bet he was like you know biden is such a retard, i will take kiev, fuck it!

which is why they failed so hard, they were planning on only taking donbaoss.

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 09:41 PM
Nah I’d guess they were just that incompetent. Donbas and luhansk weren’t worth 7-15,000 Russian soldiers, sanctions, plus the exodus of already 250,000 educated Russians. Whatever the plan was, it was a categorical failure

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 09:43 PM
Bellamy would know more about the geography, maybe wanted to set the new border at the Dnieper river. Or that's for next time lol.

They really don't like NATO having an open field to come at them, братан !

I would believe they wanted to take everything East if the Dnieper for sure. Don’t believe for a second they did this irreparable damage for just Donbas and luhansk, unless it was as I postulated earlier in this thread, a way for Putin to authorize domestic totalitarianism resembling the Soviet Union within the Russian federation

Who knows though man. I genuinely do believe Russia has bungled, with great incompetence, some larger strategic objective. If this was only for a land bridge to crimea, Jesus Christ they are dumb

Ukraine went from being a failed state to now the most heavily motivated fighting force in Europe. It’s beyond stupid

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 09:48 PM
Whatever the plan was, it was a categorical failure

Its funny how quickly (even the military powers) forget how much of a failure everything they actually do in a warzone is.

You'd think they would try not failing.

But even we blew up a car of kids, let 13 soldiers die from suicide bombers, and had people falling off of airplanes, and all we were doing was just trying leave a warzone.

Patriam1066
03-25-2022, 09:54 PM
Its funny how quickly (even the military powers) forget how much of a failure everything they actually do in a warzone is.

You'd think they would try not failing.

But even we blew up a car of kids, let 13 soldiers die from suicide bombers, and had people falling off of airplanes, and all we were just trying to was leave a warzone.

If we were trying to level Afghanistan like Russia is doing in eastern Ukraine, we would succeed quite easily. Despite what you may or may not believe, we have tried to preserve civilian life, get afghan girls into the education system and workplace, etc

We failed because Afghanistan is the polar opposite of our society, and without occupying them for generations we wouldn’t get them closer to being the pluralistic democracy we’d like. That was a failure of assumptions about culture. We keep assuming our values are universal. In fact, most peoples on earth are not at all concerned with rights, power sharing, empowerment of women, rule of law… they care about tribe, patronage, local power dynamics, but most of all, kowtowing to the people who will kill them if they don’t. Survival if what 95% of the people of Afghanistan and elsewhere would seek when faced with the brutality of Afghanistan

Russia has offered up its young men as sacrifices in a meat grinder in an effort that has made Europe stronger and turned Ukraine into a permanently hostile state on her border. It also makes it clear why people should work with america and Europe over Russia and China. At our worst, we aren’t close to what Putin has just unleashed upon Ukraine. And again, if this was merely for Donbas and crimea, what a colossal fucking mistake. He better have been trying to take Ukraine East if the Dnieper, if not, Vladimir putin is either insane or one of the dumbest mother fuckers to ever walk this earth

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 10:17 PM
If we were trying to level Afghanistan like Russia is doing in eastern Ukraine, we would succeed quite easily.

Nah Azovs already did that before all this. :(

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 10:21 PM
If we were trying to level Afghanistan like Russia is doing in eastern Ukraine, we would succeed quite easily.

We leveled Afghanistan and called our invasion of Baghdad Shock and awe, so dont dont be talkn that trash to me.

I remember watching russia attempt to take ukraine without civilian deaths, watching tractors take tanks right infront of soldiers. watched protestors push tanks out of their cities, watched soldiers kicked out of homes when old people told them to get lost.

Nah Azovs already did that before all this. :(

Part of me still believes that they were attempting a walk-in invasion. And were avoiding casualties. But were suprised to find out that the ukrainians were willing to fight to their own death (like japan in ww2)

People like patrime says that's pro Russian propaganda, but I literally say the same things about Israel and the wars they start that are 1:1 same as the one in Ukraine.

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 10:27 PM
It's like this: Ukraine brutalized its own people and the West did not intervene. So now Russia is.

:(

starkind
03-25-2022, 10:30 PM
Ukrainians don't fight like brutalized ppl.

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 10:31 PM
Idk You saying you think the average american on tiktok would fight harder?

Reiwa
03-25-2022, 10:42 PM
Ukrainians don't fight like brutalized ppl.

Huh? The cities they fucked up so hard got their independence enforced by Russia.

It's the people that harmed them fighting against the Russians.

(trolling hard now)

starkind
03-25-2022, 10:45 PM
You saying you think the average american on tiktok would fight harder?

Compared to Ukrainians. American civilians need a big handicap. Thankfully America is pretty big and about 2% of us are pretty tough and well disciplined. Or we'd be split begging between Russian, Chinese, European, and Mexican blue helmets.

I don't think the average American could spend 24 hrs in the woods without food, keep quiet, clean a weapon or walk 40 miles over rough terrain. Ain't going to happen.

Sure lots of children and old ppl are literally getting wrekt and shot in the face trying to cook beans, the vast majority of them can at least eat and cook their own beans walk hundreds of miles (even the kids) and fire a weapon anyway.

You're right. Those conscripts didn't want to kill unnarmed ppl or pick fights with their aunts and uncles. Tho. That is changing. Fighting is getting bloodier.

Russian conscripts and major generals dying is a bonus tho. Those where the main threats to Putins regime.

https://i.imgur.com/6en15hy.jpeg
Needs updating for those KIA obviously.
https://i.imgur.com/vEHX293.jpeg

Can someone tell me why Russians can't run a government with any integrity? I'm not digging at the average Russian who just wanted to watch dubbed Simpsons reruns. I'm just wondering why they've had such shitty governments?

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 10:50 PM
HAmzPeDoE3Q

starkind
03-25-2022, 10:52 PM
Anyway what I'm saying is ppl who are neglected, brutalized, abused, oppressed, brainwashed, controlled...

They lack motivation. They give up easy. They don't want to fight. Don't know how to fight. Are obedient. Won't stand infront of tanks or challenge authority.

The average tiktok American is more prone to OD and commit suicide, rather than keeping at least one clean uniform handy, and a few days rations. Americans are too sick to fight and defend what they have because our Armed Services does it all for them. Meaning.

Americans are 1000% dependent on the government and do not even have the freedom to have the ability to defend themselves. Even tho they cosplay cutely.

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 10:57 PM
You're right. Those conscripts didn't want to kill unnarmed ppl or pick fights with their aunts and uncles. Tho. That is changing. Fighting is getting bloodier.

yeah, gotta remember who russia is, those conscripts forgot maybe.

Russia really does have a brutal policy when it comes to life when invading. So it was quite unusual.

starkind
03-25-2022, 11:17 PM
yeah, gotta remember who russia is, those conscripts forgot maybe.

Russia really does have a brutal policy when it comes to life when invading. So it was quite unusual.

I was surprised. Also by the Ukrainians tbh.

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 11:23 PM
Fake or real

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10652127/Hunter-Biden-helped-secure-millions-funding-military-biotech-research-program-Ukraine.html
https://i.imgur.com/T2eGYfd.png

starkind
03-25-2022, 11:30 PM
I could argue, that about the only difference between a Russian and American is that Americans have more expensive and well trained military. And more social welfare.

Everything else seems roughly equal. I could swear that guy was interviewing American teenagers about either Trump or Biden.

starkind
03-25-2022, 11:32 PM
Fake or real

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10652127/Hunter-Biden-helped-secure-millions-funding-military-biotech-research-program-Ukraine.html
https://i.imgur.com/T2eGYfd.png

Ya I don't know honestly. Wouldn't surprise me.

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 11:32 PM
I could argue, that about the only difference between a Russian and American is that Americans have more expensive and well trained military. And more social welfare.

As for me, I think it's our judicial branch. All them lawsuits really keep people in line.

We're just as incompetent as the Russians, it's just that we have all these little watch dogs everywhere, and a system that empowers them.

starkind
03-25-2022, 11:33 PM
😋🍕

Jibartik
03-25-2022, 11:52 PM
Im just over here thinking about how last week biden and kamala the late night TV show hosts were telling me that we were making sacrifices at the pump, to deter russia.

To help ukraine.

Now biden and co are like angrily telling us that the sanctions were not to deter russia.

Sad what a mixed up shit show this is. Well, keep paying more at the pump.. for some reason but definitely not to stick it to putin (anymore)

starkind
03-25-2022, 11:54 PM
Im just over here thinking about how last week biden and kamala the late night TV show hosts were telling me that we were making sacrifices at the pump, to deter russia.

To help ukraine.

Now biden and co are like angrily telling us that the sanctions were not to deter russia.

Sad what a mixed up shit show this is. Well, keep paying more at the pump.. for some reason but definitely not to stick it to putin (anymore)

That's the least of our problems. Well. Almost. Probably not if you're an already heavily exploited trucker or doordasher tho.

Trexller
03-26-2022, 12:17 AM
Im just over here thinking about how last week biden and kamala the late night TV show hosts were telling me that we were making sacrifices at the pump, to deter russia.

To help ukraine.

Now biden and co are like angrily telling us that the sanctions were not to deter russia.

Sad what a mixed up shit show this is. Well, keep paying more at the pump.. for some reason but definitely not to stick it to putin (anymore)

brandon flip flops on lies he previously told

surprise surprise

Elizondo
03-26-2022, 12:36 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-warns-food-shortages-wake-011511879.html

Biden Warns of Food Shortages in Wake of Russia–Ukraine War: ‘It’s Going to Be Real’

“It’s going to be real. The price of these sanctions is not just imposed upon Russia; it’s imposed upon an awful lot of countries as well, including European countries and our country as well,” Biden said.

P8DQlqemkcQ

Jibartik
03-26-2022, 12:38 AM
love this reference. Their outfits are so rad, like pre starwars empire designed by members only

starkind
03-26-2022, 12:55 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-warns-food-shortages-wake-011511879.html



P8DQlqemkcQ

Always has been.

The seasons change. The clothes. The weapons. Sometimes it's in the west. North, or south. Sometimes the east. Sometimes it's public. Sometimes kept under wrap and not to be discussed at the dinner table. Sometimes it's war. Sometimes it's the weather. Sometimes it's just a low birth rate. And a feeble generation.

/\

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 01:14 AM
It's like this: Ukraine brutalized its own people and the West did not intervene. So now Russia is.

:(

Didn’t take you for being gullible enough to believe Russian propaganda poke

Horza
03-26-2022, 01:29 AM
Fake or real

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10652127/Hunter-Biden-helped-secure-millions-funding-military-biotech-research-program-Ukraine.html
https://i.imgur.com/T2eGYfd.png

Hunter was actually behind Covid-19, so then Tucker was right all along.

Trexller
03-26-2022, 01:52 AM
Hunter was actually behind Covid-19, so then Tucker was right all along.

that's just more evidence that the Dem deep state planned the entire damn thing

Jimjam
03-26-2022, 02:50 AM
We know trade sanctions hurt people on both sides. We worked that out when bickering about Trump/china a couple of years back. Sanctioning Russia was never gonna be painless for the USA.

The messaging by Biden doesn’t sound very consistent or very well thought out (from what you describe - post Trump American politics is barely covered in out local news anymore).

starkind
03-26-2022, 03:04 AM
I'm more worried about africa and Europe.

Ppl in murica can eat a little less or swap brands. Or if a corporation could profit less. (Still probably profit tho).

Plus we have Canada and Mexico as pretty strong potential trade partners for our essentials. Don't worry about the US overmuch.

Jimjam
03-26-2022, 03:33 AM
Last time I read, much of Africa wasn’t really in on the sanctions vs Russia. It’s mainly Europe and the most anglicised members of the anglophones (so North America, Oz and New Zealand).

Europe was already turning into fields full of sun traps and windmills. Apparently many of the euro nations are doubling down on this (though I’ve not heard of UK offering further grants/incentives for such investments - there used to be a generous array of options but the government cut them).

starkind
03-26-2022, 03:39 AM
Last time I read, much of Africa wasn’t really in on the sanctions vs Russia. It’s mainly Europe and the most anglicised members of the anglophones (so North America, Oz and New Zealand).

Europe was already turning into fields full of sun traps and windmills. Apparently many of the euro nations are doubling down on this (though I’ve not heard of UK offering further grants/incentives for such investments - there used to be a generous array of options but the government cut them).

That'll help some. It will still be a lot of hardship.

I don't want to see ppl or their pets have to starve tho. I am less worried about energy (oil companies invested deeply in green energy research ages ago) and more worried about famine. That sorta thing.

Jibartik
03-26-2022, 04:44 AM
If these sanctions are not a deterrent.

And they are instead to like egg Russians on to revolt and kill Putin.

Isn't that an act of war?

Wtf are they for if they are not a deterrent?

A deterrent to others? Is that what they are saying they are for?

Could a Biden supporter explain this without ad hominem?

Jimjam
03-26-2022, 05:32 AM
Well Russia are starting to declare ‘mission accomplished ‘, so are moving closer to winding down. Sounds like deterrent may be working.

Jibartik
03-26-2022, 06:08 AM
I guess I will accept what biden was saying loudly and clearly was just not on message.

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 09:20 AM
If these sanctions are not a deterrent.

And they are instead to like egg Russians on to revolt and kill Putin.

Isn't that an act of war?

Wtf are they for if they are not a deterrent?

A deterrent to others? Is that what they are saying they are for?

Could a Biden supporter explain this without ad hominem?

Are Europeans Biden supporters? The sanctions are Western consensus, not an “act of war” orchestrated by Joe Biden

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 09:23 AM
Well Russia are starting to declare ‘mission accomplished ‘, so are moving closer to winding down. Sounds like deterrent may be working.

Sanctions should remain in place until all borders changed by Russia (including in Georgia and Moldova) are rectified and Putin is on trial at The Hague

Jimjam
03-26-2022, 09:43 AM
I guess I will accept what biden was saying loudly and clearly was just not on message.

Not received any messaging from Biden on my end. As previously stated American politics isn’t being covered atm.

Please summarise his messaging? Atm i’m hearing more from the Kremlin in the news.

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 10:22 AM
Didn’t take you for being gullible enough to believe Russian propaganda poke

Nothing says stunning and brave Democracy like Ukraine's military occupation of the cities that voted to leave. :p

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 11:55 AM
Didn’t know secession was legal anywhere

I also didn’t think you gullible enough to believe in Russian labeled “fair plebiscites.” But I do know you have penchant for trolling huehue

starkind
03-26-2022, 11:58 AM
Nothing says stunning and brave Democracy like Ukraine's military occupation of the cities that voted to leave. :p

That's life. I wanted my city to leave the U.S.. McDonald's and Walmart said no tho.

Tbh. I should stop trashing on McDonald's. They aren't any worse than Burger King. Checkers. Carl's Jr. Or like Chipotle or Panda Express and some of the poor people working there really are trying very hard to do the right thing and have no other choices.

We can realize things are bad without invading Ukraine with brainwashed, damaged fascists to save them from fascism. Look I'm taking personal responsibility in this. I don't 100% blame Putin or the poor Russians and Ukrainians. Or Donbassians. Or whatever.

In fact im going to say something really profound here... I don't think anyone wants to really go to war, be a fascist, or occupy a city anymore then anyone wants to be exploited at Walmart. They've just been convinced and traumatized into seeing that as the only option and are too disabled and broken to see a way out. There's got to be a better word...

Anyway we all used to be more proactive in trying to maintain control over our own businesses, homes, livelihoods, communities, families. What happened? Satan? Globalization?

Perhaps we will never see a functional global civilization.

Not when the rich constantly have a surplus of people, bodies, to endlessly conscript.

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 12:23 PM
Didn’t know secession was legal anywhere

I also didn’t think you gullible enough to believe in Russian labeled “fair plebiscites.” But I do know you have penchant for trolling huehue

Self-determination is purported to be the cornerstone of Western values.

You are saying the election was massively fraudulent. I have heard this from many, many Americans recently. Terrific.

starkind
03-26-2022, 12:27 PM
Hehehehehe Hehehehehe Hehehehehe Hehehehehe.

You know you love Pokémon https://imgur.com/gallery/vpyRWWJ

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 12:45 PM
Hehehehehe Hehehehehe Hehehehehe Hehehehehe.

You know you love Pokémon https://imgur.com/gallery/vpyRWWJ

Poh-kee, poh-keee

Horza
03-26-2022, 01:49 PM
Didn’t know secession was legal anywhere

I also didn’t think you gullible enough to believe in Russian labeled “fair plebiscites.” But I do know you have penchant for trolling huehue

Come on man, what incentive would Putin possibly have to lie to us about it?

Jibartik
03-26-2022, 01:53 PM
Are Europeans Biden supporters? The sanctions are Western consensus, not an “act of war” orchestrated by Joe Biden

Drugs.

The western consensus is the consensus of 1% of the west, who biden is the spokesperson for.

You think Europeans preferred trump? They dont like NATO?

BlackBellamy
03-26-2022, 02:19 PM
Didn’t know secession was legal anywhere

I also didn’t think you gullible enough to believe in Russian labeled “fair plebiscites.” But I do know you have penchant for trolling huehue

His point is that a group of people anywhere, or I guess it could be a single person, can elect themselves into a new political entity through self-determination. Like Clifton, New Jersey could become a new nation, or just like the Botany Village section of town maybe or even one block on Van Winkle Ave. It would be the Van Winkle People's Republic and it could raise an army and send ambassadors to the UN. If the New Jersey government sent someone there to take down their border crossing that would be an act of war and occupation. Sounds perfectly rational.

Jibartik
03-26-2022, 02:25 PM
people over here be saying russians should do something about putin.

But if trump had carblanch putin has over there in russia, we'd all be saying "this trump messiah guy is great"

BlackBellamy
03-26-2022, 02:27 PM
BIDEN DURING ELECTION:

I will never use nuclear weapons first!


BIDEN TODAY:

The United States will never place limits on it's use of nuclear weapons!

That butcher Putin cannot remain in power!


https://fas.org/pub-reports/sole-purpose/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-sticks-with-longstanding-u-s-policy-on-use-of-nuclear-weapons-amid-pressure-from-allies-11648176849
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-slams-butcher-putin-after-meeting-amazing-ukrainian-refugees-1692160
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/26/biden-putin-poland-speech-00020671

Jibartik
03-26-2022, 02:28 PM
The left the left! (we swear to god its not all the bushers lol!)

Jimjam
03-26-2022, 02:34 PM
Democratic succession/devolution should be legitimate, but generally there is strength in numbers.

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 02:39 PM
His point is that a group of people anywhere, or I guess it could be a single person, can elect themselves into a new political entity through self-determination. Like Clifton, New Jersey could become a new nation, or just like the Botany Village section of town maybe or even one block on Van Winkle Ave. It would be the Van Winkle People's Republic and it could raise an army and send ambassadors to the UN. If the New Jersey government sent someone there to take down their border crossing that would be an act of war and occupation. Sounds perfectly rational.

Well which is it?

Were the votes fraudulent or was it against the rules to begin with?

Horza
03-26-2022, 02:40 PM
we'd all be saying "this trump messiah guy is great"

https://i.imgur.com/F0j25ZR.gif

Elizondo
03-26-2022, 02:41 PM
Orange Super Prez best ever

Joey Diapers worst prez ever

Trexller
03-26-2022, 02:42 PM
Horza why won't you publicly condemn pedophilia?

BlackBellamy
03-26-2022, 05:21 PM
Well which is it?

Were the votes fraudulent or was it against the rules to begin with?

I'm not sure I know what you're referring to, the votes might or might not be but as a whole every election is fraudulent because the US is a one-party state like African Hitler explained 30 posts before this one. However, once the two-party-one-party-state chooses the leader I support him wholeheartedly. I mean I want to be able to travel freely. Go Team Current Leader!

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 06:12 PM
I'm not sure I know what you're referring to, the votes might or might not be but as a whole every election is fraudulent because the US is a one-party state like African Hitler explained 30 posts before this one. However, once the two-party-one-party-state chooses the leader I support him wholeheartedly. I mean I want to be able to travel freely. Go Team Current Leader!

I like this content.

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 06:29 PM
Well which is it?

Were the votes fraudulent or was it against the rules to begin with?

You telling me anyone would vote to become part of Russia dingus? Fraudulent and illegitimate, because secession isn’t legal. See: the civil war, Catalonia, Basque Country, so on so forth

Ukraine is so convincingly right in her position that Japan and Germany are tooling up again. Last time that happened Russia lost 50 million SAD BIGLY!

GinnasP99
03-26-2022, 06:31 PM
Horza why won't you publicly condemn pedophilia?

Still waiting on the physique pic, it's been a year at least.

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 06:41 PM
Drugs.

The western consensus is the consensus of 1% of the west, who biden is the spokesperson for.

You think Europeans preferred trump? They dont like NATO?

The Europeans clearly preferred Obama and Biden to trump. Either way, it doesn’t matter. The sanctions were enacted by the EU. Biden doesn’t control them. Japan and Korea also have sanctions…

Contrary to popular belief, Biden doesn’t control gas prices, EU policy, or Vladimir Putin

Hope this helps!

Elizondo
03-26-2022, 06:49 PM
Contrary to popular belief, Biden doesn’t control gas prices



yea whenever a dem in office gas prices go thru the roof and this is the same pathetic excuse/talking point we always get from libs

robayon
03-26-2022, 06:52 PM
yea whenever a dem in office gas prices go thru the roof and this is the same pathetic excuse/talking point we always get from libshope they go even higher, the price of gas should be tied to the damage the entire system of extraction does

one hundred dollars per gallon

Elizondo
03-26-2022, 07:03 PM
hope they go even higher, the price of gas should be tied to the damage the entire system of extraction does

one hundred dollars per gallon

lol dude

Thanks for proving my point

Current gas prices are high cuz of lefty nonsensical cult ideology. Dems driving price up on purpose.

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 07:06 PM
yea whenever a dem in office gas prices go thru the roof and this is the same pathetic excuse/talking point we always get from libs

Last time they were like this was Bush in ‘08

Trump handed out the checks and the fed stimulus buddy. I couldn’t vote for him again because he didn’t believe in there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Trump and Biden both did irreparable damage to America’s fiscal health. It’s a draw

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 07:15 PM
hope they go even higher, the price of gas should be tied to the damage the entire system of extraction does

one hundred dollars per gallon

Do you think EVs are any better? Your electricity comes from coal and methane buddy, and the batteries are horrible. My main opposition is the $7500 tax credit which helps people like me who can afford Teslas. Asinine

Elizondo
03-26-2022, 07:25 PM
Last time they were like this was Bush in ‘08

Trump handed out the checks and the fed stimulus buddy. I couldn’t vote for him again because he didn’t believe in there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Trump and Biden both did irreparable damage to America’s fiscal health. It’s a draw

What happened in 2008?

Botten
03-26-2022, 07:54 PM
lol dude

Thanks for proving my point

Current gas prices are high cuz of lefty nonsensical cult ideology. Dems driving price up on purpose.

Pathetic! Gas prices are high all over the world and this idiot is Trolling that Biden and left wing thinking is all to blame. This isn’t anything like the mismanagement of Covid from the previous administration that lost 16 trillion in the US economy. You can’t even relate the propaganda these right wing fools are being fed and are parroting. No wonder the Republican agenda is against education. If the population gets educated they lose more of the easily manipulated base.

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 07:58 PM
Pathetic! Gas prices are high all over the world and this idiot is Trolling that Biden and left wing thinking is all to blame. This isn’t anything like the mismanagement of Covid from the previous administration that lost 16 trillion in the US economy. You can’t even relate the propaganda these right wing fools are being fed and are parroting. No wonder the Republican agenda is against education. If the population gets educated they lose more of the easily manipulated base.

Fr though, are you Domo? You seem like Domo.

🇩🇪

starkind
03-26-2022, 08:10 PM
Carefully curated, EZ-2-Read Ukraine news with sources, for those lacking time but who want to stay informed https://imgur.com/gallery/CzUVJmR

Jibartik
03-26-2022, 08:14 PM
we all gonna die.

Jimjam
03-26-2022, 08:29 PM
we all gonna die.

“I live, I die, I live again.” -Jesus 0033AD (approx ... rough translation)

Elizondo
03-26-2022, 09:30 PM
Pathetic! Gas prices are high all over the world and this idiot is Trolling that Biden and left wing thinking is all to blame. This isn’t anything like the mismanagement of Covid from the previous administration that lost 16 trillion in the US economy. You can’t even relate the propaganda these right wing fools are being fed and are parroting. No wonder the Republican agenda is against education. If the population gets educated they lose more of the easily manipulated base.

lol Biden to blame

You just triggered and lashin out

P.S. More have died from Covid under Biden's watch and he was gifted 3 jabs

Sorry your senile hero is such an incompetent failure

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 09:53 PM
What happened in 2008?

Financial crisis well before Obama was elected

Elizondo
03-26-2022, 09:59 PM
Financial crisis

why did that happen?

Botten
03-26-2022, 10:33 PM
why did that happen?


9 of the last 10 US recessions began with a GOP President. Why would anyone trust a Republican with the economy again? (https://www.alternet.org/2020/02/9-of-the-last-10-us-recessions-began-with-a-gop-president-why-would-anyone-trust-a-republican-with-the-economy-again/)

Financial problems come back to republican leadership to often to be random.

Vote Democrat

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 10:42 PM
9 of the last 10 US recessions began with a GOP President. Why would anyone trust a Republican with the economy again? (https://www.alternet.org/2020/02/9-of-the-last-10-us-recessions-began-with-a-gop-president-why-would-anyone-trust-a-republican-with-the-economy-again/)

Financial problems come back to republican leadership to often to be random.

Vote Democrat

Yeah, you're Domo.

35XI37SVVYI

Botten
03-26-2022, 10:49 PM
Yeah, you're Domo.



Which am I New_Guy or Domo.

Reiwa I have been ignoring you because I am not Domo. Thou I know who the guy is because I have been around for ever.... That guy joined back in 2016.

Look at the age of my account.

I don't have any other accounts. For crying out loud here is my oldest post. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5276&highlight=necklace

Do I seem German to you?

Send me a private message I will answer any other questions you have. :)

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 10:53 PM
Which am I New_Guy or Domo.

Reiwa I have been ignoring you because I am not Domo. Thou I know who the guy is because I have been around for ever.... That guy joined back in 2016.

Look at the age of my account.

I don't have any other accounts. For crying out loud here is my oldest post. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5276&highlight=necklace

Do I seem German to you?

No you're Domo and also a huge dumbass kraut.

starkind
03-26-2022, 10:55 PM
Woa! Curses!

Trexller
03-26-2022, 11:19 PM
Which am I New_Guy or Domo.

Either way none of you have come out, publicly denouncing and condemning pedophilia.

so Horza, Botten and Gravy are pedo-bros

why is it so fuckin' hard for you guys to type: "I do publicly condemn pedophilia"

Botten
03-26-2022, 11:25 PM
No you're Domo and also a huge dumbass kraut.

Meh well to each of us exists our own fantasies. Just sorry to disappoint.

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 11:27 PM
Meh well to each of us exists our own fantasies. Just sorry to disappoint.

Terrible @ English.

Domo confirmed. 👌

Botten
03-26-2022, 11:29 PM
Either way none of you have come out, publicly denouncing and condemning pedophilia.

so Horza, Botten and Gravy are pedo-bros

why is it so fuckin' hard for you guys to type: "I do publicly condemn pedophilia"

Well since you are Republican we know you are for it. Else why would it be so “hard for you” “to type :” -> the GOP is a terrible party and all should be voting democrat including me?

Botten
03-26-2022, 11:31 PM
Terrible @ English.

Domo confirmed. 👌

Wait my English? Seriously? You should see my penmanship the stereotype is all too true.

Trexller
03-26-2022, 11:31 PM
Well since you are Republican we know you are for it. Else why would it be so “hard for you” “to type :” -> the GOP is a terrible party and all should be voting democrat including me?

I do publicly condemn pedophilia.

why do you support child abusers?

this is surreal. Botten, Horza and Gravy STILL refuse to publicly condemn pedophilia

Reiwa
03-26-2022, 11:33 PM
Wait my English? Seriously? You should see my penmanship the stereotype is all too true.

Hmm. A different German?

I forget how much bullshit is allowed here.

Botten
03-26-2022, 11:36 PM
I do publicly condemn pedophilia.

why do you support child abusers?

this is surreal. Botten, Horza and Gravy STILL refuse to publicly condemn pedophilia

You going to tack a Q.E.D. on that logical statement? : boggle
Republicans… zero education

Trexller
03-26-2022, 11:38 PM
You going to tack a Q.E.D. on that logical statement? : boggle
Republicans… zero education

dude you are admitting to supporting child predation.

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 11:40 PM
Terrible @ English.

Domo confirmed. 👌

I lol’ed

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 11:43 PM
No you're Domo and also a huge dumbass kraut.

LOL

Patriam1066
03-26-2022, 11:43 PM
Domo thanks for finally tithing to Lockheed. The only holdout is Canada

Botten
03-26-2022, 11:45 PM
Hmm. A different German?

I forget how much bullshit is allowed here.

I start counting from my index finger … not my thumb.

If you are a yankee (and educated; which I know you are), you’ll know that reference.

Botten
03-26-2022, 11:48 PM
dude you are admitting to supporting child predation.

Spoken like a true Republican during a mass at church. Seek help.

Trexller
03-26-2022, 11:48 PM
I start counting from my index finger … not my thumb.

If you are a yankee (and educated; which I know you are), you’ll know that reference.

^ This guy stands with the child molesters.

Jibartik
03-27-2022, 12:08 AM
“I live, I die, I live again.” -Jesus 0033AD (approx ... rough translation)

2016, 2020, 2024

robayon
03-27-2022, 09:40 AM
Speaking of standing with child molestors, all of these people are surely more influential than Botten. I am sure, though, that you people who take political parties too seriously will all agree that pedos are in all parties, yet for some reason right-wing posters just keep looking the other way when it comes from their people

https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/english/trump-administration-granted-loan-la-luz-del-mundo-church?amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/john-ortberg-resignation_n_5f22d01ec5b68fbfc87fc983/amp

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/jeffrey-epstein-and-donald-trump-epic-bromance

BlackBellamy
03-27-2022, 10:05 AM
9 of the last 10 US recessions began with a GOP President.


When adjusted for control of the House, the people who actually control fiscal policy, it's a wash. If you also adjust for lag time between when policies are enacted and when their effects can be measured, neither party comes out ahead.

This is of course because the same people are in control all the time.

GinnasP99
03-27-2022, 10:10 AM
This is of course because the same people are in control all the time.

Shhh, he's being divided right now. The good part comes next.

Botten
03-27-2022, 12:12 PM
When adjusted for control of the House, the people who actually control fiscal policy, it's a wash. If you also adjust for lag time between when policies are enacted and when their effects can be measured, neither party comes out ahead.

This is of course because the same people are in control all the time.

Wahhhh we want another due over after Nixon (watergate scandal)... er after Bush (warmongering).... er after Trump (the traitor) ... and all their recessions along the way.

It wasn't their fault it was someone or something elses!!!

Reiwa
03-27-2022, 12:14 PM
Nixon (watergate scandal)... er after Bush (warmongering).... er after Trump (the traitor) ...

I'm noticing a pattern here. 🤪

starkind
03-27-2022, 12:34 PM
Botten reminds me to some weird lyrics to some euro song.. like beeeebottondooobebottendo... something weird I heard on MTV instead of the radio.

Botten is understandably mad. Politicians are generally shitbags.

Jibartik
03-27-2022, 12:56 PM
Biden walks back his speeches EVERY time the next day.

Even trump had less flubs than this guy.

Botten
03-27-2022, 12:58 PM
Botten reminds me to some weird lyrics to some euro song.. like beeeebottondooobebottendo... something weird I heard on MTV instead of the radio.

Botten is understandably mad. Politicians are generally shitbags.

swedish - Episod 27-28: Xingo / Körd i botten (https://www.cartoonnetwork.se/videoklipp/ben-10-episod-27-28-xingo--k%C3%B6rd-i-botten)...

as much as some want it to be German. The name is derived from a swedish Ben 10 episode title. Still think it is hilarious what Trexller thought the name was derived from. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3416295&highlight=botten#post3416295)

Jibartik
03-27-2022, 01:05 PM
The difference between trump flubs

:idk maybe we can use a spaceship or shoot some kind of bomb into a hurricane to stop it.

economy:

https://i.imgur.com/SV6e5LM.png

Biden flubs

:This is world war 3
:Putin 'cannot remain in power'
:maybe if it's a minor incursion we will have to talk about it
:you'll see what it's like when you get there (talking to soldiers on the border in ukraine)

economy:

https://i.imgur.com/6LmIwPH.png

Elizondo
03-27-2022, 01:38 PM
17285

17286

Horza
03-27-2022, 01:58 PM
The difference between trump flubs

:idk maybe we can use a spaceship or shoot some kind of bomb into a hurricane to stop it.

economy:

https://i.imgur.com/SV6e5LM.png

Biden flubs

:This is world war 3
:Putin 'cannot remain in power'
:maybe if it's a minor incursion we will have to talk about it
:you'll see what it's like when you get there (talking to soldiers on the border in ukraine)

economy:

https://i.imgur.com/6LmIwPH.png

You're surprised that Putin's official ball washer didn't speak out against him before losing embarrassingly badly to Biden?

Patriam1066
03-27-2022, 02:12 PM
I'm noticing a pattern here. 🤪

He’s definitely Domo. Now that they’ve tithed and purchased F-35s, I’m more inclined to listen to him (within reason). It also helps that the obese Russia loving lunch lady known as Merkel is gone

Patriam1066
03-27-2022, 02:15 PM
Spoken like a true Republican during a mass at church. Seek help.

During a mass at church? How godless are you Germans. We don’t have mass in America, this is Protestant country. You’re looking for Ireland

Botten
03-27-2022, 02:52 PM
17286

When you realize that Elizondo’s memes are so sloppy they can’t remove the indicator it is a picture of some one driving in India. :rolleyes:

17288

starkind
03-27-2022, 02:54 PM
Botten, here's a tip.

Ppl are going to hate Biden. Just like people will hate Trump. Obama. Nixon. And probably someone out there hates Kennedy.

I for one thought Theodore Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower where the best presidents ever. I'm not sure what parties they where in.

So let them. Post there memes. They don't care what u think about them.

Elizondo
03-27-2022, 02:55 PM
When you realize that Elizondo’s memes are so sloppy they can’t remove the indicator it is a picture of some one driving in India. :rolleyes:

17288

lol it's a meme dude

Sad Botten is triggered

Jibartik
03-27-2022, 06:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/vjcc8Oy.png

Reiwa
03-27-2022, 10:25 PM
His point is that a group of people anywhere, or I guess it could be a single person, can elect themselves into a new political entity through self-determination. Like Clifton, New Jersey could become a new nation, or just like the Botany Village section of town maybe or even one block on Van Winkle Ave. It would be the Van Winkle People's Republic and it could raise an army and send ambassadors to the UN. If the New Jersey government sent someone there to take down their border crossing that would be an act of war and occupation. Sounds perfectly rational.

Anyway didn't know we were supporting the Ukrainian state in its battle with...Ukrainians? :eek:

I'll be good now.

Reiwa
03-27-2022, 11:49 PM
Soldiers win battles, logistics wins wars. (https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1507056020656427008)

🧵

Patriam1066
03-28-2022, 12:22 AM
Anyway didn't know we were supporting the Ukrainian state in its battle with...Ukrainians? :eek:

I'll be good now.

That was at no point what was happening in Ukraine. I bet you think South Ossetia really wanted to be part of Russia as well

:rolleyes:

Jibartik
03-28-2022, 01:42 AM
LsF4c06txHM

Trexller
03-28-2022, 02:51 AM
Soldiers win battles, logistics wins wars

this is a quote from General John J. Pershing

BlackBellamy
03-28-2022, 10:41 AM
Anyway didn't know we were supporting the Ukrainian state in its battle with...Ukrainians? :eek:

I'll be good now.

Yes we are! Like remember when this guy had a compound and he said no one can come in and Janet Reno was like you can't have a compound we can't come into! So then we were all supporting brave American FBI agents as they heroically set fire to the other Americans. Pretend those 2nd Ukrainians you mention are Orthodox Fundamentalist Baby Rapists and the Donetsk or wherever is just another flammable compound they need to get rid of.

Gustoo
03-28-2022, 11:57 AM
Got your wiki page for you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

Funny I don't remember the details about the siege from my childhood but I do remember people talking about Janet Reno all the time.

Patriam1066
03-28-2022, 01:00 PM
Russia poisoning negotiators

Can’t wait to hear you apologists for Russia on this one. Get your head out of your asses commie lovers

Jibartik
03-28-2022, 01:14 PM
Lets just get the nukes going already!

robayon
03-28-2022, 01:25 PM
Russian commie lovers heh heh heh

starkind
03-28-2022, 01:50 PM
Did waco need to happen?

Topgunben
03-28-2022, 01:52 PM
Did waco need to happen?

NO

Jibartik
03-28-2022, 01:52 PM
Did waco need to happen?

Depends if you're a democrat or not.

Trexller
03-28-2022, 02:10 PM
Did waco need to happen?

if you make the govt look like blithering idiots

then the FBI will burn your house down

Jibartik
03-28-2022, 02:12 PM
just like will smith!

Horza
03-28-2022, 02:58 PM
Russia poisoning negotiators

Can’t wait to hear you apologists for Russia on this one. Get your head out of your asses commie lovers

This sort of underhanded shit is why Jib thinks Putin is a genius, he just wishes they got Biden before his rape daddy lost so badly.

Trexller
03-28-2022, 02:59 PM
This sort of underhanded shit is why Jib thinks Putin is a genius, he just wishes they got Biden before his rape daddy lost so badly.

you openly support child abuse

you can't come back from that

Horza
03-28-2022, 03:03 PM
Trexller here thinks his pedophilia obsession looks good to anybody who isn't already a QAnon-adjacent Fox News addict.

robayon
03-28-2022, 03:17 PM
Trexller here thinks his pedophilia obsession looks good to anybody who isn't already a QAnon-adjacent Fox News addict.there's surely a way for someone to cobble together a news aggregator on the subject of pedophilia, save these Very Normal fellas some time

obviously, it will need a feature where you select a box to ignore any news articles that feature republican or democratic supporters, the regular schmucks it happens to out there whose political affiliations can't be determined aren't useful for the narrative they desperately need to create

robayon
03-28-2022, 03:39 PM
you openly support child abuse

you can't come back from thatanyone at all who supports capitalism supports child abuse

sorry if this fact hurts your feelings

Elizondo
03-28-2022, 04:01 PM
Trexller here thinks his pedophilia obsession looks good to anybody who isn't already a QAnon-adjacent Fox News addict.

Lefties already workin hard to normalize pedos

Horza supports that

Jibartik
03-28-2022, 04:07 PM
im gonna say ukraine has no hope since its most vocal allies that talked everyone into this schoolyard fight is already talking about pedophelia instead.

robayon
03-28-2022, 04:33 PM
Lefties already workin hard to normalize pedos

Horza supports thatsurely your totally not a pedophile president will stop em in their tracks when he's back in office before 2025

can you tell me the date the courts will allow this to take place so i can mark my calendar tia

cd288
03-28-2022, 04:35 PM
Russia continuing to get embarrassed on a daily basis. Imagine acting like you’re this big powerful country and you get your ass kicked by Ukraine

Elizondo
03-28-2022, 04:51 PM
surely your totally not a pedophile president will stop em in their tracks when he's back in office before 2025

can you tell me the date the courts will allow this to take place so i can mark my calendar tia

Orange Super Prez best ever

Sorry Biden so feeble and pathetic

Trexller
03-28-2022, 04:53 PM
surely your totally not a pedophile president will stop em in their tracks when he's back in office before 2025

can you tell me the date the courts will allow this to take place so i can mark my calendar tia

https://i.imgur.com/4Z3aXLp.jpg

robayon
03-28-2022, 04:58 PM
Orange Super Prez best ever

Sorry Biden so feeble and pathetici think what's feeble and pathetic is waiting for the courts to give you what you say you want. i don't even vote

robayon
03-28-2022, 05:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/4Z3aXLp.jpgi think you post this image because you're envious

Reiwa
03-28-2022, 05:08 PM
i think what's feeble and pathetic is waiting for the courts to give you what you say you want. i don't even vote

They've waited this long, they can wait until June.

Elizondo
03-28-2022, 05:09 PM
i don't even vote

Do you drive a car and buy groceries?

robayon
03-28-2022, 05:14 PM
They've waited this long, they can wait until June.is everything you post designed to get ppl to look stuff up

i dont remember if i used this joke yet but i think you may be an Aaron Sorkin character who happens to post here

robayon
03-28-2022, 05:16 PM
Do you drive a car and buy groceries?no your mom does all that for me

Elizondo
03-28-2022, 05:21 PM
no your mom does all that for me

lol you just a clown dude

robayon
03-28-2022, 05:24 PM
lol you just a clown dudeyou take this forum too seriously, lighten up Elizondo

Reiwa
03-28-2022, 05:25 PM
is everything you post designed to get ppl to look stuff up

i dont remember if i used this joke yet but i think you may be an Aaron Sorkin character who happens to post here

Sometimes it's a trick to get dummies to set me up to monologue.

The Dobbs opinion will either be the total vindication of Tromp's legacy as President or the abject failure of a half-century of Conservative political efforts.

Interesting times.

Gustoo
03-28-2022, 05:27 PM
But is it possible for Ukraine to beat back Russia?

Reiwa
03-28-2022, 05:30 PM
So like, get your Bloc pressed, cuz we going wild again this summer.

Topgunben
03-28-2022, 05:38 PM
But is it possible for Ukraine to beat back Russia?

That’s what I’ve been wondering ever since I created this thread.

Any news on what’s really going on over there?

Jimjam
03-28-2022, 05:43 PM
Miniart-models (Ukraine based toy soldier manufacturer) website was down but is now up again.

I’m gonna use that tiny datapoint to say things seem to be stabilising there....

Jibartik
03-28-2022, 05:55 PM
That’s what I’ve been wondering ever since I created this thread.

Any news on what’s really going on over there?

Sir, this is a pedophilia thread.

Try to stay on topic.

robayon
03-28-2022, 06:27 PM
I think it's possible for Ukraine to beat off Russia

Jibartik
03-28-2022, 06:30 PM
beat off Russia

ʕ ⊙ᴥ⊙ʔ

cd288
03-28-2022, 10:05 PM
That’s what I’ve been wondering ever since I created this thread.

Any news on what’s really going on over there?

Seems like the Ukrainians are kicking ass on a daily basis. Western arms and technology are flooding in and the Russians are disorganized as shit

Topgunben
03-28-2022, 11:04 PM
Seems like the Ukrainians are kicking ass on a daily basis. Western arms and technology are flooding in and the Russians are disorganized as shit

I hope this is the case. Hard to know with all the disinformation floating around.

BlackBellamy
03-29-2022, 09:09 AM
Today:

Due to the fact that negotiations over an agreement on Ukraine’s neutrality and non-nuclear status and security guarantees (for Ukraine) are moving into a practical stage, and taking into consideration the principles discussed during today’s meeting, the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation has taken the decision to drastically reduce combat operations in the Kyiv and Chernihiv areas in order to boost mutual trust and create the necessary conditions for further negotiations and for the signing of the aforementioned agreement.

Alexander Fomin
Russia's Deputy Defence Minister

Translation from Russian follows:

We are using the excuse that we had some meetings with the Ukrainians last night and are ready to scale back or something to hide the fact that we got our asses kicked. We couldn't keep our soldiers fed, motivated and supplied and they left a giant pile of corpses and burned out tanks everywhere. We actually had to retreat in shame here and there, but it's fine because unlike fuel and ammunition, the Russian stockpile of shame is inexhaustible. Anyway, we're building trust over here. Trust us to call this defeat a victory soon.


Alexander Fomin
Russia's Deputy Defence Minister

cd288
03-29-2022, 09:23 AM
I hope this is the case. Hard to know with all the disinformation floating around.

I think the only disinformation on this is being put out by Russian media

Penish
03-29-2022, 09:58 AM
the war in ukraine is about = to or < than when trudumb called in the UN to disperse peaceful canadian protests

nothing to see here folks, wheres covid again?

BlackBellamy
03-29-2022, 10:48 AM
US B-52 bombers staging from the UK to Romania.

https://i.imgur.com/7QSvo7q.jpg

B-52s are not cargo planes. They are not delivering supplies.

https://i.imgur.com/BzoaL6B.mp4

Elizondo
03-29-2022, 10:48 AM
the war in ukraine is about = to or < than when trudumb called in the UN to disperse peaceful canadian protests

nothing to see here folks, wheres covid again?

Wag the Covid

It's been amusing watching The Sheep support and stand with the next Thing

Gustoo
03-29-2022, 11:07 AM
Today:



Translation from Russian follows:

This is interesting especially combined with the B-52 news.

Elizondo
03-29-2022, 11:44 AM
This is interesting especially combined with the B-52 news.

Pretty sure western media blowin smoke up our asses bout what's really goin on over there

Penish
03-29-2022, 11:51 AM
Pretty sure western media blowin smoke up our asses bout what's really goin on over there

apparently being blatantly lied over and over again makes me belieb mah ibiod box eben mer.

Elizondo
03-29-2022, 11:54 AM
apparently being blatantly lied over and over again makes me belieb mah ibiod box eben mer.

CNN actually tried to report with a straight face that Biden's senile tantrums screaming about regime change in Russia over the weekend was 4D Chess

Reiwa
03-29-2022, 11:55 AM
apparently being blatantly lied over and over again makes me belieb mah ibiod box eben mer.

CNN Plus launches with Reddit-like interactive Q&As (https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23000627/cnn-plus-streaming-service-launch)

robayon
03-29-2022, 12:02 PM
Pretty sure western media blowin smoke up our asses bout what's really goin on over thereYes but they only do that to support one of the two right wing parties in charge of America, the one you don't like that is definitely how power works

Any pro-Republican domestic news can be trusted

Trexller
03-29-2022, 12:03 PM
im starting to wonder if russia even has nukes anymore.

their equipment maintenance programs are garbage, ive seen countless reports of unit commanders moving parts from vehicle to vehicle, in order to get their unit inspections passed.

it doesn't matter what you can build, if you can't keep it running.

Russian ICMBs are all gonna explode on their launchers, and what does actually fly is gonna get shot down by local or global space based defense systems.

So for the past few decades we have been looking at Russia as a near-peer adversary, and now this conflict in ukraine has revealed the russian military to be entirely incompetent. This conflict has shown that the Russian army is still trying to fight wars like it was done in WW2, but yet somehow worse:

-Their logistics and supply chains are a joke. Seriously what near-peer adversary can't keep their tires inflated?
-Their strategy is imaginary
-Their equipment is not maintained up-to-date
-Their soldiers are largely conscripts, which never fight well in the field.

Thats not even half of it, think about a premier military air force's high altitude bombing capability.

So Russian jets are being shot down en masse in sorties, and the russians couldn't achieve air superiority, one thing that the U.S. would do in this scenario would be to utilize their high-altitude platforms which can release bombs outside of air-defense ranges, which then will glide 50+ miles to target.

This is basic stuff that we worked out against russian air defense systems in the Vietnam era, but Russia has not done it at all against Ukrainian SAMS which are largely that same technology.

AFAIK Russia hasn't even successfully performed any SEAD at all (suppression of enemy air defense)

There is so much more to address, like how they can't manage an amphibious landing, they can't air-drop supplies let alone troops, they can't support an armored column, which if not supported, reduces said armor column to nothing more than immobile steel boxes. They can't even feed their troops, this isn't afghanistan where there are no roads and the entire terrain is rocky and mountainous, Ukraine is flat, with a comprehensive road system like any other first world nation. They can't keep anything supplied at locations where a truck can simply drive to.

This historically venerated "Russian Army" has just got its ass beaten back by not the "Ukrainian Army" they have lost this fight to local rag-tag militia units.

This is a joke, its sad, and its embarrassing. Like an elderly man trying to pick a fight with a younger man. he just gets gently pushed away each time, and reminded its almost 4pm and that the early bird buffet special is on.

starkind
03-29-2022, 12:10 PM
Russia self harmed.

Trexller
03-29-2022, 12:15 PM
Russia self harmed.

Russia has shot itself in the foot, while attempting to draw its gun. At the same time, Russia has been fired from its job, divorced from its wife, and its kids won't even talk to it. Now it can't even hike on the weekends or play golf, because of the foot wound and it's gonna have to sell the house and move into a 1 bed apartment.

Botten
03-29-2022, 12:17 PM
Russia has shot itself in the foot, while attempting to draw its gun. At the same time, Russia has been fired from its job, divorced from its wife, and its kids won't even talk to it. Now it can't even hike on the weekends or play golf, because of the foot wound and it's gonna have to sell the house and move into a 1 bed apartment.

Meh lets call it what will trigger all the Trumptards.

"A win for the Biden Administration."

:p

robayon
03-29-2022, 12:23 PM
Russia self harmed.There was only ever the one shoe

I dunno, I've heard a theory that mentioned this whole thing was to rescue the perception of this generally weak administration's whole Afghanistan withdrawal fiasco.

It was gonna be ugly no matter what, stay or go, but there's nothing like a new crisis to get the public to stop caring about the old crisis

I don't know what to believe but it's certainly not anyone with a profit motive

Reiwa
03-29-2022, 01:05 PM
Russia self harmed.

Looks like Zelensky went to bat for the Abramovich oligarch and the US decided not to sanction him.

Horza
03-29-2022, 01:34 PM
Russia has shot itself in the foot, while attempting to draw its gun. At the same time, Russia has been fired from its job, divorced from its wife, and its kids won't even talk to it. Now it can't even hike on the weekends or play golf, because of the foot wound and it's gonna have to sell the house and move into a 1 bed apartment.

So then why does your rape daddy keep calling Putin such a clever genius? Kompromat?

Jibartik
03-29-2022, 02:07 PM
im starting to wonder if russia even has nukes anymore.

only one way to find out!

This is a joke, its sad, and its embarrassing. Like an elderly man trying to pick a fight with a younger man.

like if will smith went up there and then CRock went sayrin and evaporated will smiths ass.

Gustoo
03-29-2022, 02:28 PM
Can someone provide a link to the early bird buffet special

cd288
03-29-2022, 02:32 PM
im starting to wonder if russia even has nukes anymore.

their equipment maintenance programs are garbage, ive seen countless reports of unit commanders moving parts from vehicle to vehicle, in order to get their unit inspections passed.

it doesn't matter what you can build, if you can't keep it running.

Russian ICMBs are all gonna explode on their launchers, and what does actually fly is gonna get shot down by local or global space based defense systems.

So for the past few decades we have been looking at Russia as a near-peer adversary, and now this conflict in ukraine has revealed the russian military to be entirely incompetent. This conflict has shown that the Russian army is still trying to fight wars like it was done in WW2, but yet somehow worse:

-Their logistics and supply chains are a joke. Seriously what near-peer adversary can't keep their tires inflated?
-Their strategy is imaginary
-Their equipment is not maintained up-to-date
-Their soldiers are largely conscripts, which never fight well in the field.

Thats not even half of it, think about a premier military air force's high altitude bombing capability.

So Russian jets are being shot down en masse in sorties, and the russians couldn't achieve air superiority, one thing that the U.S. would do in this scenario would be to utilize their high-altitude platforms which can release bombs outside of air-defense ranges, which then will glide 50+ miles to target.

This is basic stuff that we worked out against russian air defense systems in the Vietnam era, but Russia has not done it at all against Ukrainian SAMS which are largely that same technology.

AFAIK Russia hasn't even successfully performed any SEAD at all (suppression of enemy air defense)

There is so much more to address, like how they can't manage an amphibious landing, they can't air-drop supplies let alone troops, they can't support an armored column, which if not supported, reduces said armor column to nothing more than immobile steel boxes. They can't even feed their troops, this isn't afghanistan where there are no roads and the entire terrain is rocky and mountainous, Ukraine is flat, with a comprehensive road system like any other first world nation. They can't keep anything supplied at locations where a truck can simply drive to.

This historically venerated "Russian Army" has just got its ass beaten back by not the "Ukrainian Army" they have lost this fight to local rag-tag militia units.

This is a joke, its sad, and its embarrassing. Like an elderly man trying to pick a fight with a younger man. he just gets gently pushed away each time, and reminded its almost 4pm and that the early bird buffet special is on.

Yeah I think the conflict has made it clear that there’s nothing to fear from Russia anymore. They’ve been trying to masquerade as a first world power ever since the fall of the Soviet Union and we’ve now learned that they’re actually nothing

Jibartik
03-29-2022, 02:46 PM
Yeah I think the conflict has made it clear that there’s nothing to fear from Russia anymore. They’ve been trying to masquerade as a first world power ever since the fall of the Soviet Union and we’ve now learned that they’re actually nothing

gentle reminder before we start the nuclear war:

The most powerful military in the world had people falling off of planes, lost 13 soldiers, and drone striked a car full of kids... just trying to evacuate a country. So maybe war is just more difficult looking than it is in movies.

Elizondo
03-29-2022, 02:51 PM
So then why does your rape daddy keep calling Putin such a clever genius? Kompromat?

Ok Groomer

robayon
03-29-2022, 02:57 PM
Yeah I think the conflict has made it clear that there’s nothing to fear from Russia anymore. They’ve been trying to masquerade as a first world power ever since the fall of the Soviet Union and we’ve now learned that they’re actually nothingwhat if all the sanctions make them desperate enough to sell some nukes

that was the plot of MacGruber i think

which is totally appropriate

cd288
03-29-2022, 03:30 PM
gentle reminder before we start the nuclear war:

The most powerful military in the world had people falling off of planes, lost 13 soldiers, and drone striked a car full of kids... just trying to evacuate a country. So maybe war is just more difficult looking than it is in movies.

Of course it is more difficult. But the point is Russia has tried to portray themselves as this super powerful country and military. Yet they can’t even manage to make much progress in Ukraine, a country on their own border.

Your argument would be more applicable if Russia conquered Ukraine but took quite a long time to do so. “War is hard” isn’t really an argument Russia can make after trying to act like a major world power for decades and barely being able to make inroads into the territory of a country right next to it.

Also, I wouldn’t say that an evacuation of US military personnel going poorly is really a relevant example.

Jibartik
03-29-2022, 04:14 PM
Of course it is more difficult. But the point is Russia has tried to portray themselves as this super powerful country and military. Yet they can’t even manage to make much progress in Ukraine, a country on their own border.

The USA tries to portray themselves as better than that after 20 years of a failed invasion of Afghanistan, 1 million deaths as a result of it, and as bad of an evacuation as their invasion.

Youll know Im right when in 3 years putin is still president of Russia and we all go back to normal like this never happened.

Reiwa
03-29-2022, 04:24 PM
The USA tries to portray themselves as better than that after 20 years of a failed invasion of Afghanistan, 1 million deaths as a result of it, and as bad of an evacuation as their invasion.

Youll know Im right when in 3 years putin is still president of Russia and we all go back to normal like this never happened.

Kim Il-sung is still President of DPRK :p

cd288
03-29-2022, 04:26 PM
The USA tries to portray themselves as better than that after 20 years of a failed invasion of Afghanistan, 1 million deaths as a result of it, and as bad of an evacuation as their invasion.

Youll know Im right when in 3 years putin is still president of Russia and we all go back to normal like this never happened.

When did I say Putin wouldn’t be president of Russia? As usual you just put words in peoples’ mouths lol

Jibartik
03-29-2022, 04:37 PM
I didnt say you said that, im saying that's going to be a sign you can use as an example that my point above is proven correct.

BlackBellamy
03-29-2022, 04:43 PM
The USA tries to portray themselves as better than that after 20 years of a failed invasion of Afghanistan, 1 million deaths as a result of it, and as bad of an evacuation as their invasion.


No, no it wasn't a failed invasion. That part went fine. The military part was great. What failed was the nation-building. The intention was always to leave after turning it over to a functional and effective central government. The military was always like ok let's get out of here and the State Dept. was like no these guys aren't ready yet because we're bumbling fools. And finally everyone was sick and tired of it and the State guys wanted to stop being blamed for everything so they were like oh these guys are good to go now let's pull out. And the military did their own assessment and they found out that State was basically lying, that nothing was organized. So they tried to warn people as late as July 29th but the Taliban took over two weeks later on August 15th.

To recap: Invasion sound, cheers all around! Politicians and bureaucrats lied, many people died.

robayon
03-29-2022, 04:55 PM
To recap: Invasion sound, cheers all around! Politicians and bureaucrats lied, many people died.with mixed results on the successful invasion part, this is a recap of American foreign policy in many countries since world war dos

and why my criticism isn't limited to just those goons in the military

starkind
03-29-2022, 04:56 PM
No, no it wasn't a failed invasion. That part went fine. The military part was great. What failed was the nation-building. The intention was always to leave after turning it over to a functional and effective central government. The military was always like ok let's get out of here and the State Dept. was like no these guys aren't ready yet because we're bumbling fools. And finally everyone was sick and tired of it and the State guys wanted to stop being blamed for everything so they were like oh these guys are good to go now let's pull out. And the military did their own assessment and they found out that State was basically lying, that nothing was organized. So they tried to warn people as late as July 29th but the Taliban took over two weeks later on August 15th.

To recap: Invasion sound, cheers all around! Politicians and bureaucrats lied, many people died.

I agree here.

BlackBellamy
03-29-2022, 05:04 PM
im starting to wonder if russia even has nukes anymore.

This is a joke, its sad, and its embarrassing. Like an elderly man trying to pick a fight with a younger man. he just gets gently pushed away each time, and reminded its almost 4pm and that the early bird buffet special is on.

So I was wondering all this too. I mean I know their army was shit based on their performance in Syria, and before that in Grozny. Grozny was such a shit-show it was incredible. Complete incompetence and breakdown everywhere. So by the time Syria rolled around I thought they would get their shit together but not really. Their best Wagner guys were there and they got blown to hell. Their air force performed so poorly too. Their navy has been a gigantic embarrassment and money pit, subs and ships just blowing up or catching on fire for no reason or just rusting away.

But...all those nuclear weapons.

People bandy about that 5000 or whatever number but a quick search reveals:

Russia and the U.S. each have about 1,600 active deployed strategic nuclear warheads

You can just assume that the Russians are lying and faking like they do about everything. So 800 maybe 600 active warheads.

Still, that's a huge amount. Let's say half of them don't work, fail to launch, blow up in the air. And that half of them miss completely. That's around 150-200 nuclear explosions, on target. Half the Russians fail to carry out their orders, 100. Half are intercepted by our super-secret anti-missile death ray, that leaves 50.

Even with saturation where several warheads would be targeted to the same area, we can kiss all our major cities goodbye.

If we just lose New York, or Washington, or both...well...we'll remember the date and build a monument and life will go on. But if we lose like a dozen? Or two dozen?

Just given the size of the arsenal too many will get through. Even blinding incompetence won't save us from their entire stock.

Jibartik
03-29-2022, 05:24 PM
dont forget the first COD they sent 2 soldiers into battle with 1 gun and told the other to pick it up when their comrade is killed.

BlackBellamy
03-30-2022, 01:20 PM
dont forget the first COD they sent 2 soldiers into battle with 1 gun and told the other to pick it up when their comrade is killed.

I wonder where that myth started. I would say the Soviets but that would be admitting equipment shortages. Still, the brave and resourceful warrior mythos gain might be worth it.

I mean they showed it in Enemy at the Gates but that movie was crazy unhistorical and came after the game anyway.

BlackBellamy
03-30-2022, 01:56 PM
These aren't regular army troops, these are the territorial militia clearing out the town after the regular army guys beat the Russians back.

This is what victory looks like.

MDd7c5oyVLc

Check out this kid at the 30 second mark, muttering to himself.

https://youtu.be/MDd7c5oyVLc?t=30

He has seen some shit.

And his mind is further being warped at the 53 second mark as well.

https://youtu.be/MDd7c5oyVLc?t=53

Poor kid. At least they rescued the dog.

starkind
03-30-2022, 02:25 PM
These aren't regular army troops, these are the territorial militia clearing out the town after the regular army guys beat the Russians back.

This is what victory looks like.

MDd7c5oyVLc

Check out this kid at the 30 second mark, muttering to himself.

https://youtu.be/MDd7c5oyVLc?t=30

He has seen some shit.

And his mind is further being warped at the 53 second mark as well.

https://youtu.be/MDd7c5oyVLc?t=53

Poor kid. At least they rescued the dog.

I can't watch r now. Ukraine militia better equipped than Russian regulars?

starkind
03-30-2022, 02:26 PM
So I was wondering all this too. I mean I know their army was shit based on their performance in Syria, and before that in Grozny. Grozny was such a shit-show it was incredible. Complete incompetence and breakdown everywhere. So by the time Syria rolled around I thought they would get their shit together but not really. Their best Wagner guys were there and they got blown to hell. Their air force performed so poorly too. Their navy has been a gigantic embarrassment and money pit, subs and ships just blowing up or catching on fire for no reason or just rusting away.

But...all those nuclear weapons.

People bandy about that 5000 or whatever number but a quick search reveals:



You can just assume that the Russians are lying and faking like they do about everything. So 800 maybe 600 active warheads.

Still, that's a huge amount. Let's say half of them don't work, fail to launch, blow up in the air. And that half of them miss completely. That's around 150-200 nuclear explosions, on target. Half the Russians fail to carry out their orders, 100. Half are intercepted by our super-secret anti-missile death ray, that leaves 50.

Even with saturation where several warheads would be targeted to the same area, we can kiss all our major cities goodbye.

If we just lose New York, or Washington, or both...well...we'll remember the date and build a monument and life will go on. But if we lose like a dozen? Or two dozen?

Just given the size of the arsenal too many will get through. Even blinding incompetence won't save us from their entire stock.

Ya. If we could disarm them somehow...our best hope was for the Russian people to decide life was worth living well and that a better world was possible.

DMN
03-30-2022, 03:47 PM
You people really are dumb if you believe anything you read/see about this conflict. Miss Cleo is more likely to augur reality than the corporate media to show it.

Skarne
03-30-2022, 03:59 PM
You people really are dumb if you believe anything you read/see about this conflict. Miss Cleo is more likely to augur reality than the corporate media to show it.

So what’s REALLY happening genius?

starkind
03-30-2022, 04:01 PM
DMN is doing a lot of 🍆💉 that is what probably.

Jibartik
03-30-2022, 04:02 PM
I wonder where that myth started. I would say the Soviets but that would be admitting equipment shortages. Still, the brave and resourceful warrior mythos gain might be worth it.

I mean they showed it in Enemy at the Gates but that movie was crazy unhistorical and came after the game anyway.

I think it was in some history books.

Edit:

Enemy at the gates might be more accurate than this clickbait book

https://i.imgur.com/sUUPUpG.png

Sounds familiar (start of the war)

Topgunben
03-30-2022, 07:55 PM
The news is telling me Putins troops are disengaging from many areas in Ukraine.

Could we possibly be seeing a controlled withdrawal?

Patriam1066
03-30-2022, 08:05 PM
No, no it wasn't a failed invasion. That part went fine. The military part was great. What failed was the nation-building. The intention was always to leave after turning it over to a functional and effective central government. The military was always like ok let's get out of here and the State Dept. was like no these guys aren't ready yet because we're bumbling fools. And finally everyone was sick and tired of it and the State guys wanted to stop being blamed for everything so they were like oh these guys are good to go now let's pull out. And the military did their own assessment and they found out that State was basically lying, that nothing was organized. So they tried to warn people as late as July 29th but the Taliban took over two weeks later on August 15th.

To recap: Invasion sound, cheers all around! Politicians and bureaucrats lied, many people died.

The foolish part was thinking you can govern goatherds. Afghanistan and Pakistan should given to Iran and India and divided at the Indus

Patriam1066
03-30-2022, 08:06 PM
The news is telling me Putins troops are disengaging from many areas in Ukraine.

Could we possibly be seeing a controlled withdrawal?

Th is is actually stage 1 of the Ukrainian army’s March to Moscow under emperor Vitali Klitschko

Reiwa
03-30-2022, 08:31 PM
The news is telling me Putins troops are disengaging from many areas in Ukraine.

Could we possibly be seeing a controlled withdrawal?

Lemme know if they leave Donbass. 🥱

Patriam1066
03-30-2022, 09:16 PM
Lemme know if they leave Donbass. 🥱

Their corpses will

Jimjam
03-30-2022, 10:07 PM
The news is telling me Putins troops are disengaging from many areas in Ukraine.

Could we possibly be seeing a controlled withdrawal?

Could be gathering strength for a renewed push?

Kika Maslyaka
03-30-2022, 10:10 PM
I wonder where that myth started. I would say the Soviets but that would be admitting equipment shortages. Still, the brave and resourceful warrior mythos gain might be worth it.

I mean they showed it in Enemy at the Gates but that movie was crazy unhistorical and came after the game anyway.


here some truth about that.
the myth have 2 origins:

1) during WW1, Russia did had huge shortage of arms and ammunition - not enough to equip mass mobilization, so during 1st year of war, these 1 rifle for 3 man was sort of real, until industry and logistics caught up.

2) now during German invasion of 1941, the regular army was well equipped, but hastily mobilized forces again fallen on logistical issues, and during defense of Moscow, REAL posters were put around city asking young men to sign up to the army, and "obtain rifle in battle". The weapons/ammo were available - they just were not where they were needed. Again logistics did caught up with actual needs in a few weeks.

Here is a good source in Russian talking about details of the myth

https://zen.yandex.ru/media/russian7/odna-vintovka-na-troih-v-1941-godu-mif-ili-pravda-5c0520ea2c5a9503d91b3233

Trexller
03-30-2022, 11:12 PM
Another great on-point analysis from Task and Purpose:

REBRCVqnbiA

starkind
03-31-2022, 10:14 PM
Rare photo of*Russian serviceman that* dug trenches in the woods in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone
https://i.imgur.com/70eiwTo.png
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-suffer-acute-radiation-sickness-after-digging-chernobyl-trenches

Idk man. If it gets any dumber than this. No amount of decon will help these guys either. They injested so many radioactive particulates. Like yikes. Probably about one of the most horrific slow deaths imaginable.

Jibartik
03-31-2022, 10:49 PM
Rare photo of*Russian serviceman that* dug trenches in the woods in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone
https://i.imgur.com/70eiwTo.png
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-suffer-acute-radiation-sickness-after-digging-chernobyl-trenches

Idk man. If it gets any dumber than this. No amount of decon will help these guys either. They injested so many radioactive particulates. Like yikes. Probably about one of the most horrific slow deaths imaginable.

haha go put that on reddit

serious q wtf they try to take chernobyl anyway?