Come join the <Riot> today!

[eisley]

Another great week for p99's premiere raiding guild. Just take a look at this week's kill roster.

Derakor the Vindicator
Jorlleag
Lady Nevederia (enemy was bagged!)
Cekenar
Sevalak
Ymmeln

Want to experience the excitement of p99 raiding without having to devote a lot of time and effort? The choice is easy.

Come join the <Riot.>

[starkind]

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[starkind]

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Pity bump.

Riots are violence.
Riots are oppression.
Riots are fascists.

[Ennewi]

When your enjoyment of an old activity is derived from making it less enjoyable for other participants, the other participants will find new activities to enjoy, without you.

[starkind]

Riot = a Russian special operation!

[Duik]

Russian
Indoctrination
Oppression
Taskforce

[xdrcfrx]

alleged kill list is both inaccurate and incomplete. 0/10.

[Prismaticshop]

Someone made a special military operation on Riot's kill list

[Bardp1999]

I understand shaming your foe is about 85% of P99 at this point, but it's really getting sad yall still care this much.

[eisley]

I forgot Lady Mirenella and Zlexak!

I understand shaming your foe is about 85% of P99 at this point, but it's really getting sad yall still care this much.

I mean, RNF has always been about this sort of thing like you said. But honestly part of it is trying to motivate them. I *want* a more competitive raid scene. It's the only reason I play.

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/bHyDtGe.png

[Tweaks]

Hows the RMT sales going Eisley?

[Toxigen]

rents due

[eisley]

Hows the RMT sales going Eisley?

Got any proof for those baseless accusations chief? You'd think your guild petitioning me and being soundly defeated would make you think before you speak. I guess not.

How's mediocrity going?

[Naethyn]

I had a ton of fun.

[eisley]

rents due

Ugh, I have 7 tenants and I assure you, 'rents due' takes on a whole new terrifying meaning.

[eisley]

I had a ton of fun.

What was with your corpse getting FTE on Sevalak? That's a bug I'd never seen before.

[Sun Mar 13 16:53:43 2022] Lendiniara the Keeper engages Naethynscorpse!
[Sun Mar 13 16:53:31 2022] Lendiniara the Keeper engages Naethynscorpse!

or is that like literally your alt's name? lol

[Naethyn]

Trident slow doing dot damage after I died.

[Synphul]

These Vanq threads about Riot are reaching maximum cringe levels. If the point of them is to make the OP look like an over immersed psycho then mission accomplished, because they certainly aren't witty or funny. Congrats to Riot on their kills over weekend. I heard they got KT (big rawls) and LTK? as well. Not too shabby of a list for a dead guild.

What inquiring minds really want to know is which guild is going to step up to be option number 3 for those wanting to raid ToV/Kael/VP once Riot's new raid rules are implemented to lock up 75% of their members DKP. The two options will now be a 150+ man zerg guild run by the biggest man-children on the server, or a restrictive DKP guild that might not be able to field the manpower to kill any real targets because they are alienating their more casual raiders despite already fielding low numbers. I see a big opportunity here for a potential new competitive guild. Who will heed the call ....

[Twochain]

These Vanq threads about Riot are reaching maximum cringe levels. If the point of them is to make the OP look like an over immersed psycho then mission accomplished, because they certainly aren't witty or funny. Congrats to Riot on their kills over weekend. I heard they got KT (big rawls) and LTK? as well. Not too shabby of a list for a dead guild.

What inquiring minds really want to know is which guild is going to step up to be option number 3 for those wanting to raid ToV/Kael/VP once Riot's new raid rules are implemented to lock up 75% of their members DKP. The two options will now be a 150+ man zerg guild run by the biggest man-children on the server, or a restrictive DKP guild that might not be able to field the manpower to kill any real targets because they are alienating their more casual raiders despite already fielding low numbers. I see a big opportunity here for a potential new competitive guild. Who will heed the call ....

Kittens + Ex Astra + that Yoremy w/e guild is a very big raid force that could compete.

[Naethyn]

TSS turned a few heads taking down Dain. Roll meta is great at fostering competition. These guys are learning the ropes and proving they can do it. Otherwise its, compete blindly. Knowing you can take the mob is a big deal.

[Synphul]

Kittens + Ex Astra + that Yoremy w/e guild is a very big raid force that could compete.

Get TSS + Eclipse to join them and form Voltron? Would join Voltron.

[Naethyn]

And ya didn't Riot get KT this week? The best mob on server. It has a BIS for every class. (the toxx's own words)

[shadowdinah]

watching you tank LTK was fun. Glimmer drake was like f&#* this shit tho

[enjchanter]

Look vanquish just needs someone to stand on the 2nd place podium so 1st looks like it matters

Who can we count on to carry this burden for the good of the server

[Detoxx]

And ya didn't Riot get KT this week? The best mob on server. It has a BIS for every class. (the toxx's own words)

Never said that. Keep my name out ya mouth, scrub

[Naethyn]

You have definitely said on coms KT is the best mob on the server because it has BIS for every class.

[Viscere]

pray4naeth2022

[Allishia]

You have definitely said on coms KT is the best mob on the server because it has BIS for every class.

I'm pretty sure I heard this before too :p

[Ripqozko]

I'm pretty sure I heard this before too :p

KT is the best mob for pure dkp output, you can get some shitty doze/druid arm vulaks

[Robot]

KT is the best mob for pure dkp output, you can get some shitty doze/druid arm vulaks

KT and doze yeah

[zati]

I mean, RNF has always been about this sort of thing like you said. But honestly part of it is trying to motivate them. I *want* a more competitive raid scene. It's the only reason I play.


No you don't..? Lol. Making the raid scene more competitive would be joining the supposedly dying guild on the server OR helping lead a new emerging guild learn raid rules so they can compete. Only guilds I see that are capable r Kittens / TSS and Eclipse but their loot system is handled differently so they probably won't rally up to challenge V. Also even if you combined all these guilds into one their neckbeard to casual player ratio isn't there; you've got them all in Vanquish or Riot and the "easy choice" is to join the top guild for easy loot as you pointed :p


loads up cs
*presses tab*
15 counter terrorists vs 7 terrorists
joins counter terrorist team
camps opposing team spawn point and call them names to motivate em to play better

[xdrcfrx]

Only guilds I see that are capable r Kittens / TSS and Eclipse but their loot system is handled differently so they probably won't rally up to challenge V. Also even if you combined all these guilds into one their neckbeard to casual player ratio isn't there; you've got them all in Vanquish or Riot and the "easy choice" is to join the top guild for easy loot as you pointed :p




kittens brought 120 to kill AoW last summer during the draft, but most of those people aren't interested in 16 hour window poopsocks and 3am growth clears. I'd guess TSS is in a similar boat. Eclipse is small group of people, by design, as far as I can tell. all of the megasweaties are in riot and vanq already (probably they've mostly all moved to vanq by now because as you say they're not interested in competition they're interested in easy pixels from the loot conveyor).

[Twochain]

No you don't..? Lol. Making the raid scene more competitive would be joining the supposedly dying guild on the server OR helping lead a new emerging guild learn raid rules so they can compete. Only guilds I see that are capable r Kittens / TSS and Eclipse but their loot system is handled differently so they probably won't rally up to challenge V. Also even if you combined all these guilds into one their neckbeard to casual player ratio isn't there; you've got them all in Vanquish or Riot and the "easy choice" is to join the top guild for easy loot as you pointed :p


loads up cs
*presses tab*
15 counter terrorists vs 7 terrorists
joins counter terrorist team
camps opposing team spawn point and call them names to motivate em to play better

1v1 me kid

[Twochain]

kittens brought 120 to kill AoW last summer during the draft, but most of those people aren't interested in 16 hour window poopsocks and 3am growth clears. I'd guess TSS is in a similar boat. Eclipse is small group of people, by design, as far as I can tell. all of the megasweaties are in riot and vanq already (probably they've mostly all moved to vanq by now because as you say they're not interested in competition they're interested in easy pixels from the loot conveyor).

I'd like to see variance removed tbh

[zati]

1v1 me kid

Violence only creates more violence; but if you see me in game and duel me I will glady accept the challenge. We'll draw the square and set the terms and conditions..

/Plants sword into the ground
/Prays to Lord Innoruuk for the new born he is about to receive

[Bardp1999]

I'd like to see variance removed tbh

But that would eliminate 100s of man-hours per week needed to 'compete' and make it where normal people could reasonably play in the 'raid scene' (lol)

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/JuQJqnk.gif

[unsunghero]

Violence only creates more violence

If violence doesn’t solve all your problems, then you’re not using enough of it

[Arvan]

I forgot Lady Mirenella and Zlexak!



I mean, RNF has always been about this sort of thing like you said. But honestly part of it is trying to motivate them. I *want* a more competitive raid scene. It's the only reason I play.

You are in a guild of 500+ raiders who gobbles up every mob seconds after it spawns before other guilds can even log in enough of a force. That is the opposite of competition. If you want competition go create or join a smaller guild and make some competition!

[eisley]

You have definitely said on coms KT is the best mob on the server because it has BIS for every class.

Yeah, I definitely remember Detoxx saying this back in the A/A days.

[enjchanter]

You are in a guild of 500+ raiders who gobbles up every mob seconds after it spawns before other guilds can even log in enough of a force. That is the opposite of competition. If you want competition go create or join a smaller guild and make some competition!

^^

[eisley]

You are in a guild of 500+ raiders who gobbles up every mob seconds after it spawns before other guilds can even log in enough of a force. That is the opposite of competition. If you want competition go create or join a smaller guild and make some competition!

While I don't disagree in principle, I am not a leader. Due to my lengthy history with this game, I've been guilded with or against *most* raiders Leaders and playmakers are obviously incredibly valuable to a guilds success. But reliably support players are important to. Sometimes, simply *knowing your role* an focusing on being better at it, is *the* way to get BETTER.

In the case of Vanquish - Tawanda is a Leader. Furoar is a Raid Leader. Venice is a Playmaker. I am a Supporter. (these are 4 people chosen randomly for the purpose of explaining my point). All 4 of these people are equally important to a guilds shared success. If we were in a canoe, we'd all be paddling in the same direction.

As a supporter, I consider my most important roles to fulfill are - helping with ports and raid prep (moving idols and park toons), being good at most/all classes (flexibility), doing what I'm told by the Leaders, not trying to be one of the other 3 roles (well, anyone *can* be a playmaker at times), being reliable (for example, you need 1 bard for Fear, 2-4 Bards for PoG, 1-3 Encs for VS. If I park those, I show up immediately because the whole raid is dependent on it.) You get the idea.

I've been around for a bit in this game. Most guilds are pretty much the same outside of the leadership (everything BUT the support basically). I don't even speak on Voice, I will never be a leader.

But I'll always respect them. Despite the fact I've been lucky enough to be blessed to play with some of the best players ever in this game, I've always respected the leaders of the #2+ guilds greatly. In Awakened, I respected Detoxx. Early on, we decimated Aftermath with half the numbers. Some demoralizing stuff. One favorite example is they wiped to AoW with 100 or so people, we had 25 people waiting "just in case." Yeah, they wiped at 5% Triple pants. (I'll never forget this one cause my roommate at the time got pants for like 300 dkp from it).

But they never gave up. They focused on GETTING BETTER. Eventually, with an assist from Sirken, they overcame Awakened. Detoxx himself became a better leader and rehabbed his reputation. Now his legacy is secure. I respect that.

Riot's leadership is a mess. They are mostly Paradigm Shift guys who are resentful of members hailing from other guilds. I learned this the hard way. They didn't know me, and didn't like me from the start because of my origins. They ended up petitioning me for 2 boxing and bidding on an item using my brother's DKP. Anyone from Awakened would know this was silly, for numerous reasons, not the least of which being I can afford to buy plenty of them. But their yes-men leadership bought it because they'd never talked to me in their lives, they ran me off, and of course their petition was dismissed with prejudice. These types of charades damage everything about a guild, morale, reputation, etc. Eveything trickles down from leadership.

I do not like the current zerg meta. I do not like the current anti-competition meta. I want it changed. But we need raid rules that incentivize it.

[eisley]

You are in a guild of 500+ raiders who gobbles up every mob seconds after it spawns before other guilds can even log in enough of a force. That is the opposite of competition. If you want competition go create or join a smaller guild and make some competition!

Oh, one thing I forgot. When I first came back, there was no 3rd guild to join. But you reminded me of something. Shout out to TSS for killing Dain this week! This should boost morale a ton. They smoked him. If you kill Dain that cleanly you can beat everything without question in this game outside of the top tier bosses. (Vyemm, Tunare, etc.)

If I was in Riot or unguilded right now, I'd be very intrigued.

[Naethyn]

Wait till you hear Venice’s thoughts on optimal furniture placement.

[Toryas]

Furoar is a Raid Leader cheat.

FTFY

[eisley]

FTFY

Whether you think he's a cheater or not, it really can't be denied - Furoar is a phenomenal raid leader. I'd put him up there with Getsome as the best raid leader I've ever played with. He is incredibly calm under pressure, commands respect with his tone and demeanor, and his success speaks for itself.

I don't know the guy personally. We've literally spoken like twice. We've only been guilded together briefly. Despite all that, I've been thoroughly impressed at how well he is at leading raids. It's not an easy thing to do. It's a lot of added pressure, often for little or no gain aside from bonus headaches. But having a good raid leader is so incredibly valuable, you can have two exact same forces but just swap out the raid leader and one goes from amazing to terrible. From a slog to a blast. It's stark.

[Twochain]

But that would eliminate 100s of man-hours per week needed to 'compete' and make it where normal people could reasonably play in the 'raid scene' (lol)

Hundreds? Thousands bruh.

[Toryas]

commands respect with his tone and demeanor.

Not sure if you're trolling?

There's a clip of him accusing someone of being an internet tough guy whilst simultaneously threatening to crack someone in the face so they would choke on their own teeth... Guy's unstable.

[eisley]

Not sure if you're trolling?

There's a clip of him accusing someone of being an internet tough guy whilst simultaneously threatening to crack someone in the face so they would choke on their own teeth... Guy's unstable.

Got a link?

[Allishia]

Got a link?

I have that saved on my computer, the one with the music background to it lol...but eisley, I thought you were going to lay low this time! Opposite of what we talked about lady, this ain't laying low :p

[eisley]

I have that saved on my computer, the one with the music background to it lol...but eisley, I thought you were going to lay low this time! Opposite of what we talked about lady, this ain't laying low :p

Is that a short joke? :[

5'1" squad reporting

[cd288]

Imagine being such a loser that you make a post about another guild in a 23 year old game and on a server where you’ve all been raiding for 10+ years already. Embarrassing

[Synphul]

Imagine being such a loser that you make a post about another guild in a 23 year old game and on a server where you’ve all been raiding for 10+ years already. Embarrassing

At least we all know now from their post on the previous page that they are a jaded former Riot member, which explains some of the psychosis on display. I'm not sure what to make of the level of Vanquish leader ass kissing in that post, though. Leadership will surely notice them now! :rolleyes:

[Harvest]

Mega cringe thread. Super worked up about what other guilds kill.

[Toxigen]

First To Ejaculate

[Confit]

Imagine being such a loser that you make a post about another guild in a 23 year old game and on a server where you’ve all been raiding for 10+ years already. Embarrassing

Coming from the person who trashes Vanquish and Seal Team non stop on these forums. Lol gtfo.

[cd288]

Coming from the person who trashes Vanquish and Seal Team non stop on these forums. Lol gtfo.

Yeah because I think y’all caring so much about things is sad lol. Just have fun and enjoy the game man

[cd288]

At least we all know now from their post on the previous page that they are a jaded former Riot member, which explains some of the psychosis on display. I'm not sure what to make of the level of Vanquish leader ass kissing in that post, though. Leadership will surely notice them now! :rolleyes:

Lmao. And imagine saying you respect Furoar and Detoxx? If someone respects those two people they need to re-evaluate a lot of things in their life

[eisley]

At least we all know now from their post on the previous page that they are a jaded former Riot member, which explains some of the psychosis on display. I'm not sure what to make of the level of Vanquish leader ass kissing in that post, though. Leadership will surely notice them now! :rolleyes:

I am a former Riot member, yes. It's a shame people like you can't realize the tremendous irony in your posts.

The goal of threads like these is to inspire some people into introspection and perhaps examining why the way things are the way they are. I have no need to be noticed by anyone, and nothing to gain.

[Tunabros]

vanquish members are literal sheep

while riot members are just coping at this point

[Synphul]

I am a former Riot member, yes. It's a shame people like you can't realize the tremendous irony in your posts.

The goal of threads like these is to inspire some people into introspection and perhaps examining why the way things are the way they are. I have no need to be noticed by anyone, and nothing to gain.

I'm not in Riot and am currently an outside observer that's been around for a while and seen how things have gone down, so there's really no irony. What's funny is that you and your fellow trolls in Vanq are winning the lion's share of mobs and still have the psychotic compulsion to come here and make multiple new shit threads a week against your competition like the poor sports you all pretend not to be. Does Vanq honestly give DKP for this, because otherwise it just shows how rustled you still are after all this time at your former guild that you couldn't miss an opportunity to lowkey rub your success in their face under the guise of 'fostering competition' or hoping others employ some sort of introspection about the raid scene. We all pretty much know how the raid scene goes around here, the followers flock to the group getting the pixels. Riot leadership faltered for whatever reason resulting in them getting less mobs and Vanq was there with people willing to lead, so people followed. It's nothing new or novel. There's no moral high ground between any of the guilds as an entity, because they all push the limits when they feel the other guild is getting an edge from tactics or GM rulings and things escalate.

No one believes that you started this thread to help foster competition, and you've obviously already done whatever mental gymnastics you've had to in order to overlook the true toxic nature of the crew you follow (well documented over the years through bans, suspensions, screenshots, etc) so that you can feel good about getting pixels under them. You want to nitpick something Riot supposedly did to you and hold a grudge while at the same time completely ignoring all of the shitty things your leadership has publicly and blatantly done to others. I'm guessing this is because they didn't do it personally to you or your close friends. You are disingenuous and no one is buying your act. If you're worried about introspection, I'd start with employing a little yourself.

[eisley]

No one believes that you started this thread to help foster competition, and you've obviously already done whatever mental gymnastics you've had to in order to overlook the true toxic nature of the crew you follow (well documented over the years through bans, suspensions, screenshots, etc) so that you can feel good about getting pixels under them. You want to nitpick something Riot supposedly did to you and hold a grudge while at the same time completely ignoring all of the shitty things your leadership has publicly and blatantly done to others. I'm guessing this is because they didn't do it personally to you or your close friends. You are disingenuous and no one is buying your act. If you're worried about introspection, I'd start with employing a little yourself.

I don't support shitty behavior by anyone. I'm not really a fan of guilt by association either.

RNF has been like this since beta. That's why it's called, you know, Rants and Flames.

[Pyrrhica]

Dumb fucking thread. Riot is alive and well despite what RnF shitters would have you believe. Fun LTK btw. Thanks for the gloves, Riot!

[Synphul]

I don't support shitty behavior by anyone. I'm not really a fan of guilt by association either.

So you won't forgive Riot for how they supposedly treated you, of which we only have your side of the story, but you're willing to overlook the well documented shittery of those you currently follow because...they didn't do it to you? It's not guilty by association, you're literally following some of the most toxic people on the box. There's screenshots and a history of suspensions documenting this all over the community. I get swapping guilds because your friends did, 100%, but you just sound like you didn't have any other choice for pixels after Riot so convinced yourself Vanq was the good guys and wanted to take the opportunity while your guild is doing better than Riot to take a poke.


RNF has been like this since beta. That's why it's called, you know, Rants and Flames.


I've been around a lot longer than my forum date so I know what RnF is, but 'because that's the way it has been' doesn't make you any less of a troll or disingenuous, and you're the worst kind of troll because you try to feign innocence like you weren't lowkey trolling in the first place. You could have let the other IDK how many Vanq shit posts fill the vacuum, but you had to make your own knowing exactly the response you'd get.

[eisley]

So you won't forgive Riot for how they supposedly treated you, of which we only have your side of the story, but you're willing to overlook the well documented shittery of those you currently follow because...they didn't do it to you? It's not guilty by association, you're literally following some of the most toxic people on the box. There's screenshots and a history of suspensions documenting this all over the community. I get swapping guilds because your friends did, 100%, but you just sound like you didn't have any other choice for pixels after Riot so convinced yourself Vanq was the good guys and wanted to take the opportunity while your guild is doing better than Riot to take a poke.

To be clear, I harbor no ill will towards Riot. It seems RNF is more 'serious business' these days than it used to be. I guess I'm still more of the old mindset, I don't 'hate' the enemy. I don't know many people in Riot at all. What little interaction I did have, they came at me. It was unfortunate. I don't care much for raid loot, I play for the competitive and social aspects.

I don't think either guild is the good guys or bad guys. As you saw, I wrote that most guilds are largely the same.



I've been around a lot longer than my forum date so I know what RnF is, but 'because that's the way it has been' doesn't make you any less of a troll or disingenuous, and you're the worst kind of troll because you try to feign innocence like you weren't lowkey trolling in the first place. You could have let the other IDK how many Vanq shit posts fill the vacuum, but you had to make your own knowing exactly the response you'd get.

I'm confused, did you think this was a serious post? It is a troll post. It's an RNF post poking fun at another guild. Why do you read this forum if this sort of stuff upsets you so much? I never used to read RNF much or post at all outside of trades because it didn't interest me. It seems you might be setting yourself up for failure if you're doing things you don't enjoy.

[eisley]

You want to nitpick something Riot supposedly did to you and hold a grudge while at the same time completely ignoring all of the shitty things your leadership has publicly and blatantly done to others.

Also, you must not know very much about me, because I've never supported shitty behavior by my own guilds. I've been in guilds that had members famously banned for RMT and other things, and you won't find a post of me supporting them, because they don't exist.

[Samoht]

you're literally following some of the most toxic people on the box.

Kittens and Riot also have some pretty toxic people in their leadership.

Those are some rose colored glasses you got there.

[cd288]

I'm not in Riot and am currently an outside observer that's been around for a while and seen how things have gone down, so there's really no irony. What's funny is that you and your fellow trolls in Vanq are winning the lion's share of mobs and still have the psychotic compulsion to come here and make multiple new shit threads a week against your competition like the poor sports you all pretend not to be. Does Vanq honestly give DKP for this, because otherwise it just shows how rustled you still are after all this time at your former guild that you couldn't miss an opportunity to lowkey rub your success in their face under the guise of 'fostering competition' or hoping others employ some sort of introspection about the raid scene. We all pretty much know how the raid scene goes around here, the followers flock to the group getting the pixels. Riot leadership faltered for whatever reason resulting in them getting less mobs and Vanq was there with people willing to lead, so people followed. It's nothing new or novel. There's no moral high ground between any of the guilds as an entity, because they all push the limits when they feel the other guild is getting an edge from tactics or GM rulings and things escalate.

No one believes that you started this thread to help foster competition, and you've obviously already done whatever mental gymnastics you've had to in order to overlook the true toxic nature of the crew you follow (well documented over the years through bans, suspensions, screenshots, etc) so that you can feel good about getting pixels under them. You want to nitpick something Riot supposedly did to you and hold a grudge while at the same time completely ignoring all of the shitty things your leadership has publicly and blatantly done to others. I'm guessing this is because they didn't do it personally to you or your close friends. You are disingenuous and no one is buying your act. If you're worried about introspection, I'd start with employing a little yourself.

Damn this is one of the most dire comments I’ve seen in RNF in a long time. Like you just absolutely destroyed OP. I haven’t seen an OP get so crushed in the comments in awhile, A+ work

[cd288]

Kittens and Riot also have some pretty toxic people in their leadership.

Those are some rose colored glasses you got there.

True, but there’s toxic and then there’s Detoxx and Furoar level toxic. The latter of which is on another level times 100. I played live for years, have played multiple other MMOs and online games, and of course P99 and I have yet to see anyone come close to Furoar and Detoxx, which was one reason I declined to join vanquish when asked to. Anyone willingly associating with those guys should be embarrassed.

Who was the guy that had a signature made up of like a hundred tells Detoxx had sent him? That was awesome

[Synphul]

The goal of threads like these is to inspire some people into introspection and perhaps examining why the way things are the way they are.

I'm confused, did you think this was a serious post? It is a troll post.

So are you here to lead us down the path of introspection or just to troll? You are one of many Vanq trolls coming here to gloat for your own satisfaction ad nauseam. It's already well established and documented in RnF that Riot is basically on life support and Vanq couldn't be happier about it. Play your unoriginal and terrible thread off however you like, but the RnF of today is nowhere near the quality of RnF of years past. If you want to troll at least be original and entertaining and don't try to hide behind some altruistic MO that you're just trying to motivate the competition. Vanq posts nowadays are dry, sad, and overdone, but you felt like we needed another one apparently. It's not entertaining, witty, funny, motivating or inspiring when it's the 100th post and your competition isn't really 'playing the RnF' game with you from what I can tell. My guess is you just needed some attention or wanted to take a poke from a personal grudge whether you admit it or not. I'll just chalk you up to being another one of the Vanq troll army and move along. It's nbd. I'm sure you or one of your fellow low quality trolls will be back here within a couple days to grace us with another of the same played out Riot threads. Try a little harder to at least make it entertaining next time.

[Synphul]

Kittens and Riot also have some pretty toxic people in their leadership.

Those are some rose colored glasses you got there.

Nah, I'm willing to admit there's toxicity at the top of all the major guilds when push comes to shove, and I'm not sure who's even really 'leading' Riot besides Arth at this point, but I have yet to see anything out of them that really compares to what I have seen from Vanq leadership repeatedly over the years.

[Samoht]

Nah, I'm willing to admit there's toxicity at the top of all the major guilds when push comes to shove, and I'm not sure who's even really 'leading' Riot besides Arth at this point, but I have yet to see anything out of them that really compares to what I have seen from Vanq leadership repeatedly over the years.

Riot's policy to break rules in ST and refuse to drop if it is confirmed slasher/piercer/crusher and then concede 2 is pretty toxic. Especially when they later defend their actions and refuse to offer the required concessions.

They've done the same thing in TOV (killing a conceded Koi), VP (Silverwing tracker FTE), Dain (lull pull), and KT (stalling on the pull).

They then feign ignorance and act like they weren't aware of the rules they were breaking.

They were aware. 100%. Riot leadership is super fucking toxic with their policy of cheat until caught and then play innocent.

Give me a fucking break.

[Croco]

Riot's policy to break rules in ST and refuse to drop if it is confirmed slasher/piercer/crusher and then concede 2 is pretty toxic. Especially when they later defend their actions and refuse to offer the required concessions.

They've done the same thing in TOV (killing a conceded Koi), VP (Silverwing tracker FTE), Dain (lull pull), and KT (stalling on the pull).

They then feign ignorance and act like they weren't aware of the rules they were breaking.

They were aware. 100%. Riot leadership is super fucking toxic with their policy of cheat until caught and then play innocent.

Give me a fucking break.

Every piece of garbage that comes out of your mouth, that you've parroted a million times at this point, has been debunked AD NAUSEAM. None of the fecal matter you've spewed onto these forums is in any way "riot's policy", and all the examples you provide were either not violations per the GM's (so take it up with them if you have an issue), weren't against the rules (new rules were put in place after the fact), or were misunderstandings and riot was punished and/or conceded additional dragons.

You live in a fantasy land where riot needs to be punished for past misdeeds, or imagined misdeeds, every week from now till the end of time and if they don't you'll just continue to bring it up because you're the most disingenuous piece of trash on the forums. Me and everyone else is dumber for having interacted with you. You're the p99 forums equivalent of the "most annoying sound in the world" clip from dumb and dumber played on loop until everyone around you goes brain dead.

[Synphul]

Riot's policy to break rules in ST and refuse to drop if it is confirmed slasher/piercer/crusher and then concede 2 is pretty toxic. Especially when they later defend their actions and refuse to offer the required concessions.

They've done the same thing in TOV (killing a conceded Koi), VP (Silverwing tracker FTE), Dain (lull pull), and KT (stalling on the pull).

They then feign ignorance and act like they weren't aware of the rules they were breaking.

They were aware. 100%. Riot leadership is super fucking toxic with their policy of cheat until caught and then play innocent.

Give me a fucking break.

And Vanq leadership has never done anything like any of that, right? Vanq has never just went ahead with an engage and said 'fuck it, we'll deal with the consequences later?" How many screenshots or audio recordings do we have floating around of Riot leaders cursing out the competition or other examples of poor sportsmanship? I'd be interested in seeing/hearing them because most of what I've seen/heard over the years has come from people currently in or leading Vanq. Some I'm even experienced first hand. Did Riot ever log into the other guilds bot to train them like a pissy child that didn't get their way? You ride a mighty high horse, Sam, and the problem with riding that horse is that you're just constantly looking down on others while ignoring that your horse is dropping shit on the road, too.

You all push the envelope to get the edge when you can and both sides, at some point, decide they've had enough of whatever the other team is doing and decide to push it a little further. Some of this has to do with inconsistent GM rulings, but some of it is just people on both sides acting like literal children that think if I can't have it, then they can't either, OR, my personal favorite, WELL HE DID IT FIRST! That's what all the arguments end up coming down to in the end.

You can be competitive without being a trash human being, but it's obvious some of you never learned to be a gracious winner AND loser. The truth about the raid scene is that you're all just in it for yourselves and, to some lesser extent, your tribe. You don't give a shit about the community because you're all too busy holding grudges and pursuing your personal vendetta's at almost any cost, and you use the casuals and warm bodies to enact your revenge. Cry and bitch about the other team as much as you want, but look in the mirror the next time you wonder why the raid scene here can be such shit, and the answer will be staring back at you.

[Naethyn]

I personally think there is a big difference between deleting a few pixel files out of your game folder so you can see what a mob is carrying and willing scripting a race that you are almost guaranteed to win wasting hundreds of hours of everyone's time and then teaching your subordinates how to do it also.

[cd288]

I personally think there is a big difference between deleting a few pixel files out of your game folder so you can see what a mob is carrying and willing scripting a race that you are almost guaranteed to win wasting hundreds of hours of everyone's time and then teaching your subordinates how to do it also.

Yeah I mean I don’t agree with either of those actions but do agree that the latter is significantly worse

[Naethyn]

It reminds of Age2 when after waiting forever to get a lobby going, some kid starts spawning cobra cars and shooting everyone. Except here we are waiting a week for that lobby to join and half a day for it to start. Eventually your competition loses interest, because its just a complete waste of time for everyone involved.

Cheating"isn't bending the rules, or game mechanics to see what a mob is carrying, or introducing a new idea. Cheating is wasting everyone's time by using impossible to beat bot programs and thereby ruining the meta. This same group was pixel detecting coth's before that. Thats why we started racing instead of coth. It didn't even start with races. Now that races are gone, because this same person continues to cheat, we find ourselves here. The only real solution is to stop associating with known cheaters, even if they are a "leader."

[Synphul]

I personally think there is a big difference between deleting a few pixel files out of your game folder so you can see what a mob is carrying and willing scripting a race that you are almost guaranteed to win wasting hundreds of hours of everyone's time and then teaching your subordinates how to do it also.

Yeah I mean I don’t agree with either of those actions but do agree that the latter is significantly worse

But that's exactly what I'm talking about, it's a matter of degrees that leads to escalation from the other side! BOTH are against the spirit of rules/server rules and shouldn't be happening. They have been clear that they do not want us modifying the client and using 3rd programs to trivialize content or competition, so be adults and knock it off, because it just pushes to other side to do something more egregious. Stop trying to rationalize one form of cheating being 'better' than the other because that's not how it works. The degree of cheating should only matter to the GM's when they decide a punishment.

It's easy to ask yourself one question before doing anything like that. Would I be willing to send a message to a GM right now, before I do it, and tell them what I'm about to do? If not, then you probably shouldn't do it.

How is this lost on this community?!?!?!

[Samoht]

Did Riot ever log into the other guilds bot to train them like a pissy child that didn't get their way?

Do you know the full context of the Loststalker train or just the Riot narrative? Do you know that Freedom engaged a clean Koi and that Riot FLAGRANTLY trained them, causing Freedom to lose Koi and Riot picked it up? Do you know that the Loststalker train didn't even hit anybody? I love how people keep bringing this up and rehashing it like they have NO CLUE what really happened.

Quit drinking the Riot koolaid.

[Plaguu~]

I'm not in Riot and am currently an outside observer that's been around for a while and seen how things have gone down, so there's really no irony. What's funny is that you and your fellow trolls in Vanq are winning the lion's share of mobs and still have the psychotic compulsion to come here and make multiple new shit threads a week against your competition like the poor sports you all pretend not to be. Does Vanq honestly give DKP for this, because otherwise it just shows how rustled you still are after all this time at your former guild that you couldn't miss an opportunity to lowkey rub your success in their face under the guise of 'fostering competition' or hoping others employ some sort of introspection about the raid scene. We all pretty much know how the raid scene goes around here, the followers flock to the group getting the pixels. Riot leadership faltered for whatever reason resulting in them getting less mobs and Vanq was there with people willing to lead, so people followed. It's nothing new or novel. There's no moral high ground between any of the guilds as an entity, because they all push the limits when they feel the other guild is getting an edge from tactics or GM rulings and things escalate.

No one believes that you started this thread to help foster competition, and you've obviously already done whatever mental gymnastics you've had to in order to overlook the true toxic nature of the crew you follow (well documented over the years through bans, suspensions, screenshots, etc) so that you can feel good about getting pixels under them. You want to nitpick something Riot supposedly did to you and hold a grudge while at the same time completely ignoring all of the shitty things your leadership has publicly and blatantly done to others. I'm guessing this is because they didn't do it personally to you or your close friends. You are disingenuous and no one is buying your act. If you're worried about introspection, I'd start with employing a little yourself.

Never seen someone so thoroughly destroy on RnF. Eisley you sound like a total piece of shit. Start being a better human being to people.

[cd288]

Do you know the full context of the Loststalker train or just the Riot narrative? Do you know that Freedom engaged a clean Koi and that Riot FLAGRANTLY trained them, causing Freedom to lose Koi and Riot picked it up? Do you know that the Loststalker train didn't even hit anybody? I love how people keep bringing this up and rehashing it like they have NO CLUE what really happened.

Quit drinking the Riot koolaid.

It’s amazing how much of a loser this guy is lol

[Croco]

It’s amazing how much of a loser this guy is lol

bUt mOm hE DiD iT fIrSt!

Apparently there's some unwritten rule somewhere that states as long as a guild supposedly trains you first, which wasn't even the case, you're allowed to log on their guild bot and try and train them, fail, then try again and succeed the second time. The only reason the loststalker train didn't wipe riot on koi was because furoar was 2 boxing at the same time and fucked up the first attempt. Big mad, big bad, big sad the train was too late. But lets not forget that furoar was suspended for that, for a long time. It doesn't matter that his RA % during his suspension was higher than the month previous, don't worry about that part. He "served his time".

[eisley]

Never seen someone so thoroughly destroy on RnF. Eisley you sound like a total piece of shit. Start being a better human being to people.

This is what is known as cognitive dissonance. The fact I have not resorted to ad hominem or gotten upset despite your best efforts is an outcome your brain refuses to accept, as it doesn't align with your acute worldview.

I don't need to insult anyone, because I can address the posts made at me.

If you have to try to convince someone they've been 'owned' in a joke thread on a joke forum, you probably have not 'owned' them. This is the downside of building your personality around something so fragile as success in p99. It's fleeting. Espcially if you discover you can't create it yourself.

Don't identify yourself as a 'member of Riot.' Identify yourself as a person and player. Live or die on your own reputation and actions, and you won't have to lash out in anger when things inevitably turn.

I was here before you, and I'll be here after you, because I could never be in your position - seething with anger over joke threads in a Flame forum. Instead, I would log in and make my own fun.

[Bardp1999]

Anyone who has been raiding here continuously since 2009 is in no position to tell people what normal behavior is

[cd288]

This is what is known as cognitive dissonance. The fact I have not resorted to ad hominem or gotten upset despite your best efforts is an outcome your brain refuses to accept, as it doesn't align with your acute worldview.

I don't need to insult anyone, because I can address the posts made at me.

If you have to try to convince someone they've been 'owned' in a joke thread on a joke forum, you probably have not 'owned' them. This is the downside of building your personality around something so fragile as success in p99. It's fleeting. Espcially if you discover you can't create it yourself.

Don't identify yourself as a 'member of Riot.' Identify yourself as a person and player. Live or die on your own reputation and actions, and you won't have to lash out in anger when things inevitably turn.

I was here before you, and I'll be here after you, because I could never be in your position - seething with anger over joke threads in a Flame forum. Instead, I would log in and make my own fun.

Bro you got absolutely rocked in the comments on your own post. Just take the L like a man and move on.

[eisley]

I personally think there is a big difference between deleting a few pixel files out of your game folder so you can see what a mob is carrying and willing scripting a race that you are almost guaranteed to win wasting hundreds of hours of everyone's time and then teaching your subordinates how to do it also.

This is such a fantastical accusation though, you'd think there would be proof. I did attend Vanquish training sessions, and what Stunningly taught us is how to be better at races. Naethyn, I know you are an excellent player. We played together for years and I have the utmost respect for you. Surely you must know that 1) scripting entires races is impossible for about ten reasons and 2) scripting jumps off the line, even at best, are a 50-100ms part of a 90,000ms race in the case of Statue. You also know being in the lead is not necessarily an advantage. Losing to stuns is rough.

We need to revert all changes since 2016. Unroot dragons. Bring back recharging and clickies. Bring back FTE races and 30+ min lockouts. Riot and Vanquish would disband immediately, and smaller, more efficient guilds would farm now that the zerg meta is dead. More competition, more loot, more fun for all involved.

Something hit me the other day, when we were surprised and happy to beat Tunare with 'only' 70. I looked back at my old logs and realized 70 is the second MOST I've ever killed Tunare with. That's a shame. Forcing us to zerg has had nothing but negative affects.

[eisley]

Bro you got absolutely rocked in the comments on your own post. Just take the L like a man and move on.

I did? I counted the posts, and the vast majority are neutral or in my favor. In terms of ad hominen, I'm at 0 vs. around 5 against me. This is an easy debate class win. And it's a troll forum post.

In order to be trolled, you have to be able to be riled up. Notice how upset you get, while I stay steady and offer thoughtful responses? That's because I don't view the world in a childlike black and white. "Winning" an RNF thread doesn't even make sense to me. You win in game. You win by being happy with your life. If anything, I feel kind of bad just how much I'm winning in that regard.

[eisley]

Anyone who has been raiding here continuously since 2009 is in no position to tell people what normal behavior is

I agree. Presumably you aren't talking about me though, as this does not describe me at all. I raided Vanilla for a few months, Kunark for about 6 months, Velious for about 16 months.

[Tunabros]

Anyone who has been raiding here continuously since 2009 is in no position to tell people what normal behavior is

[Plaguu~]

This is what is known as cognitive dissonance. The fact I have not resorted to ad hominem or gotten upset despite your best efforts is an outcome your brain refuses to accept, as it doesn't align with your acute worldview.

I don't need to insult anyone, because I can address the posts made at me.

If you have to try to convince someone they've been 'owned' in a joke thread on a joke forum, you probably have not 'owned' them. This is the downside of building your personality around something so fragile as success in p99. It's fleeting. Espcially if you discover you can't create it yourself.

Don't identify yourself as a 'member of Riot.' Identify yourself as a person and player. Live or die on your own reputation and actions, and you won't have to lash out in anger when things inevitably turn.

I was here before you, and I'll be here after you, because I could never be in your position - seething with anger over joke threads in a Flame forum. Instead, I would log in and make my own fun.

None of your assumptions is correct. I don't even play on blue anymore. If this server had any real moderation like SoD, they'd probably ban you here too. Keep trying to defend yourself then act like you don't care.

[Toxigen]

Anyone who has been raiding here continuously since 2009 is in no position to tell people what normal behavior is

https://i.imgur.com/18RLwbB.jpg

[cd288]

I did? I counted the posts, and the vast majority are neutral or in my favor. In terms of ad hominen, I'm at 0 vs. around 5 against me. This is an easy debate class win. And it's a troll forum post.

In order to be trolled, you have to be able to be riled up. Notice how upset you get, while I stay steady and offer thoughtful responses? That's because I don't view the world in a childlike black and white. "Winning" an RNF thread doesn't even make sense to me. You win in game. You win by being happy with your life. If anything, I feel kind of bad just how much I'm winning in that regard.

I’m not saying you got trolled. I’m saying everything you said got absolutely crushed. I’ve never seen someone get so destroyed by certain comments in awhile. It’s an A+ RNF backfire thread as a result

The more you continue to try to argue the more you’re embarrassing yourself. Just move on

[Ennewi]

I did? I counted the posts, and the vast majority are neutral or in my favor. In terms of ad hominen, I'm at 0 vs. around 5 against me. This is an easy debate class win. And it's a troll forum post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Make another thread that includes a poll. The results might surprise you.

[Ennewi]

This is what is known as cognitive dissonance. The fact I have not resorted to ad hominem or gotten upset despite your best efforts is an outcome your brain refuses to accept, as it doesn't align with your acute worldview.

Also, stop with the Frasier verbiage. That's my schtick.

[Viscere]

Much anger from the pixel deprived elfs from Criot ITT

[ArbiterBlixen]

I’m not saying you got trolled. I’m saying everything you said got absolutely crushed. I’ve never seen someone get so destroyed by certain comments in awhile. It’s an A+ RNF backfire thread as a result

The more you continue to try to argue the more you’re embarrassing yourself. Just move on

Nah, Eisley winning right now and it’s not close.

[eisley]

None of your assumptions is correct. I don't even play on blue anymore. If this server had any real moderation like SoD, they'd probably ban you here too. Keep trying to defend yourself then act like you don't care.

You really want moderation like SoD? A game with GM's who hold personal grudges so badly that server backlash forced them to unban me, only for Slaariel to later troll me on raids by IP banning me me for "general reasons?"

By the way, they unbanned me 4 months later and I had a new #1 within a year.

[eisley]

I’m not saying you got trolled. I’m saying everything you said got absolutely crushed. I’ve never seen someone get so destroyed by certain comments in awhile. It’s an A+ RNF backfire thread as a result

The more you continue to try to argue the more you’re embarrassing yourself. Just move on

Can you make a compilation of these sick ownages?

RNF sure is a strange place these days, lol. We used to make this post every single week after they banned trolling Guild threads.

[eisley]

I've had several friends approach me and express disappointment in me for making this thread. It seems RNF has changed quite a bit since I quit in 2016. Upon reflection I see now that this was a mean-spirited thing to post. I need to focus on being a kinder person.

I'm not asking for or expecting forgiveness, but I did want to say that I'm sorry to anyone I upset for posting this thread. I let myself down, and any hate I get is justified.

Let's hope we can achieve the one thing I know we all want - a better, more competitive, more fun raid environment for everyone. Part of that is the playerbase not treating each other like garbage. :[

GL dudes~

[Chortles Snortles]

barks

[Sunstar]

Remember when Eisley was in riot, then pretended to be their brother, spent their dkp on a bio orb and then quit to join vanq, good times, cool and normal.

[Kaitainz]

And Vanq leadership has never done anything like any of that, right? Vanq has never just went ahead with an engage and said 'fuck it, we'll deal with the consequences later?" How many screenshots or audio recordings do we have floating around of Riot leaders cursing out the competition or other examples of poor sportsmanship? I'd be interested in seeing/hearing them because most of what I've seen/heard over the years has come from people currently in or leading Vanq. Some I'm even experienced first hand. Did Riot ever log into the other guilds bot to train them like a pissy child that didn't get their way? You ride a mighty high horse, Sam, and the problem with riding that horse is that you're just constantly looking down on others while ignoring that your horse is dropping shit on the road, too.

You all push the envelope to get the edge when you can and both sides, at some point, decide they've had enough of whatever the other team is doing and decide to push it a little further. Some of this has to do with inconsistent GM rulings, but some of it is just people on both sides acting like literal children that think if I can't have it, then they can't either, OR, my personal favorite, WELL HE DID IT FIRST! That's what all the arguments end up coming down to in the end.

You can be competitive without being a trash human being, but it's obvious some of you never learned to be a gracious winner AND loser. The truth about the raid scene is that you're all just in it for yourselves and, to some lesser extent, your tribe. You don't give a shit about the community because you're all too busy holding grudges and pursuing your personal vendetta's at almost any cost, and you use the casuals and warm bodies to enact your revenge. Cry and bitch about the other team as much as you want, but look in the mirror the next time you wonder why the raid scene here can be such shit, and the answer will be staring back at you.

Holy shut, absolute best post:poster who tells it like it is of the year, and it’s only March. Thanks for putting a smile and tell people what reality really is.

[eisley]

Remember when Eisley was in riot, then pretended to be their brother, spent their dkp on a bio orb and then quit to join vanq, good times, cool and normal.

I wish this lie would stop being bandied about.

It was petitioned and the GMs sided unequivocally in my favor. Look, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but it's just not true. There's never been any evidence supporting it, and the GMs agree. I still have the Orb. I was not punished. I never bid using anyone's DKP. I never would. The whole thing made no sense from the start because why would I spend my own DKP on a tradable item, much less someone else's? It was just a strange accusation from the start.

Riot members seem cool. It's a shame the well was poisoned by this lie from the start. I get we live in a guilt until proven innocent culture today, but now we're into like guilty after proven innocent.

[Croco]

I wish this lie would stop being bandied about.

It was petitioned and the GMs sided unequivocally in my favor. Look, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but it's just not true. There's never been any evidence supporting it, and the GMs agree. I still have the Orb. I was not punished. I never bid using anyone's DKP. I never would. The whole thing made no sense from the start because why would I spend my own DKP on a tradable item, much less someone else's? It was just a strange accusation from the start.

Riot members seem cool. It's a shame the well was poisoned by this lie from the start. I get we live in a guilt until proven innocent culture today, but now we're into like guilty after proven innocent.

What lie? You bid dkp that wasn't yours on a raid where you literally posted that it was you on your brothers character that you were bidding on. You spent dkp that wasn't yours on a very expensive droppable item then peace'd out to VQ almost immediately afterwards. Of course the gm's weren't going to take it. They aren't going to intervene in random guild affairs. From their perspective you were awarded an item from a raid. No server rules were broken.

There was tons of evidence supporting the garbage that you pulled but you're too much of a deceitful coward to give the item back that you effectively stole. Which is why you fucked off to VQ because you knew Riot was going to kick you anyways after you didn't give the orb back. But ya know, whatever copium you need to feed yourself.

[eisley]

What lie? You bid dkp that wasn't yours on a raid where you literally posted that it was you on your brothers character that you were bidding on. You spent dkp that wasn't yours on a very expensive droppable item then peace'd out to VQ almost immediately afterwards. Of course the gm's weren't going to take it. They aren't going to intervene in random guild affairs. From their perspective you were awarded an item from a raid. No server rules were broken.

There was tons of evidence supporting the garbage that you pulled but you're too much of a deceitful coward to give the item back that you effectively stole. Which is why you fucked off to VQ because you knew Riot was going to kick you anyways after you didn't give the orb back. But ya know, whatever copium you need to feed yourself.

To be clear, the GMs determined that Riot's versions of events were untrue. Riot claimed I was on my cleric bidding. In reality, I had swapped to my necro DMFing Kael racers.

'Very expensive' is a relative term. It's certainly nothing I'd ever spend DKP on. I could afford to buy dozens of them for Platinum, if I needed any more. This was another key mistake made, me spending DKP on a tradable item makes no sense, anyone who knows me would know this. However, no Riot officer even knows my characters.

GM's determined that I (my IP in Seattle) was on my Necro, and my brother (who lives in Denver) was on my Cleric bidding with his own DKP.

I can only speculate, but I think they were upset I had notified them a few days earlier I was going to be withdrawing my app because I didn't like how much the raid game had changed. They seemed fine with it at the time. It honestly had nothing to do with the guild at first.

[Croco]

And yet your brother never once came to your defense to sort out the misunderstanding, weird!

[eisley]

What? Of course he did. Why didn't your officers tell you guys the truth of this situation? That's the most concerning part to me. With Riot it just felt like lies on top of lies to the point even they couldn't keep their own version of events straight.

Anyway Croco, I have no ill will towards you. It seems that sentiment isn't shared, but I don't blame given the fact it seems you've bee lied to by people you should be able to trust. That's a shame.

[Samoht]

What? Of course he did. Why didn't your officers tell you guys the truth of this situation? That's the most concerning part to me. With Riot it just felt like lies on top of lies to the point even they couldn't keep their own version of events straight.

This is exactly what it's like raiding against Riot. Look at the statue roll example from last week.

They pulled statue when another guild had won the roll and still had time remaining on the exclusive lockout. Riot excuses:

A) The timer was up
B) TSS got their attempt, so now it was their turn
C) Vanquish was going to pull it, so they pulled it first

I'm not making this shit up. They were told several times that the hour was not up, but they pulled it in and killed it, anyway.

THEN they started screaming about Vanquish and some ring war violation, whatever that means.

[Naethyn]

It starts with KT, then a few more, and then CT and then some more. Pretty soon its just NToV, but eventually that loses and before you know it Vulak is gone next.

[Chortles Snortles]

25 years old pixelated items
(lol)

[Croco]

What? Of course he did. Why didn't your officers tell you guys the truth of this situation? That's the most concerning part to me. With Riot it just felt like lies on top of lies to the point even they couldn't keep their own version of events straight.

Anyway Croco, I have no ill will towards you. It seems that sentiment isn't shared, but I don't blame given the fact it seems you've bee lied to by people you should be able to trust. That's a shame.

Not once in riot discord did he come out and say to anyone "hey guys this was all a misunderstanding, that was me bidding on the bio orb not eisley". Not once. And if he said as such to officers in a DM no one ever conveyed that to the general guild at large so I'm pretty confident it never happened. You lied and got caught in the lie and now you're desperately trying to convince everyone, yourself included, that it wasn't a lie. GL

[Zoggren]

And Vanq leadership has never done anything like any of that, right? Vanq has never just went ahead with an engage and said 'fuck it, we'll deal with the consequences later?" How many screenshots or audio recordings do we have floating around of Riot leaders cursing out the competition or other examples of poor sportsmanship? I'd be interested in seeing/hearing them because most of what I've seen/heard over the years has come from people currently in or leading Vanq. Some I'm even experienced first hand. Did Riot ever log into the other guilds bot to train them like a pissy child that didn't get their way? You ride a mighty high horse, Sam, and the problem with riding that horse is that you're just constantly looking down on others while ignoring that your horse is dropping shit on the road, too.

You all push the envelope to get the edge when you can and both sides, at some point, decide they've had enough of whatever the other team is doing and decide to push it a little further. Some of this has to do with inconsistent GM rulings, but some of it is just people on both sides acting like literal children that think if I can't have it, then they can't either, OR, my personal favorite, WELL HE DID IT FIRST! That's what all the arguments end up coming down to in the end.

You can be competitive without being a trash human being, but it's obvious some of you never learned to be a gracious winner AND loser. The truth about the raid scene is that you're all just in it for yourselves and, to some lesser extent, your tribe. You don't give a shit about the community because you're all too busy holding grudges and pursuing your personal vendetta's at almost any cost, and you use the casuals and warm bodies to enact your revenge. Cry and bitch about the other team as much as you want, but look in the mirror the next time you wonder why the raid scene here can be such shit, and the answer will be staring back at you.

You definitely were not there the morning of that Koi engage. Riot had definitely trained us on our engage then attempted to leapfrog us while refusing to concede the mob. What our leader did was a primal scream, a visceral attack on what was at the time the most dominant guild. It said we're not going to take your shit anymore. We're not going to cower to your bullshit petitions that get thrown out half the time, we're not going to care about the stupid politics you play on the forums, and we're going to respond tit for tat. I remember losing nearly every inner ring dragon and Vulak for a year in AG, while Arcler overpetitioned us and played games and rushed our engages. Then acted in public as if we were the young upstarts attempting to cheat to get mobs. Pretty abusive and manipulative. There was a definite identity and cultural difference between AG and Freedom, yet Arcler was/is such a prick, we were able to see a new identity as Vanquish, to kick his ass.
Anyways, you had to of been there I guess. As a person that reads just the forums, I can understand why you don't know.

[Chortles Snortles]

(lol)

[Zoggren]

(lol)

You are the worst shit poster. You aren't clever and you are never funny. Were you even around old server message boards to see how the pros did it? I doubt it. It might be time for you to go.

[Nutsax]

You definitely were not there the morning of that Koi engage. Riot had definitely trained us on our engage then attempted to leapfrog us while refusing to concede the mob. What our leader did was a primal scream, a visceral attack on what was at the time the most dominant guild. It said we're not going to take your shit anymore. We're not going to cower to your bullshit petitions that get thrown out half the time, we're not going to care about the stupid politics you play on the forums, and we're going to respond tit for tat. I remember losing nearly every inner ring dragon and Vulak for a year in AG, while Arcler overpetitioned us and played games and rushed our engages. Then acted in public as if we were the young upstarts attempting to cheat to get mobs. Pretty abusive and manipulative. There was a definite identity and cultural difference between AG and Freedom, yet Arcler was/is such a prick, we were able to see a new identity as Vanquish, to kick his ass.
Anyways, you had to of been there I guess. As a person that reads just the forums, I can understand why you don't know.

Kool-Aid drinker, i bet he has all his boosters and wears a mask while playing P99.

[Zoggren]

Kool-Aid drinker, i bet he has all his boosters and wears a mask while playing P99.

Cool handle! You must be 13. I'm not sure I understand the Kool-Aid analogy, can you explain?

[Samoht]

Cool handle! You must be 13. I'm not sure I understand the Kool-Aid analogy, can you explain?

Kool-Aid is what the Riot players drink that brainwashes them into believing the shit they post.

Not sure what is meant in this context, tho, because their post seems to be against you, which is anti-Riot, so they're stance must be anti-ANTI-Riot.

So they're obviously using it wrong.

Which, considering the source, seems to be a common occurrence. That guy is not bright AT ALL.

[Zoggren]

That guy is not bright AT ALL.

He is called Nutsax, so you're not wrong there. I imagine him as the XBox Call of Duty player who turns his pitch up all the way in voice com and speaks like Hodor except uses the N word.

[Rager and Quitter]

Kool-Aid is what the Riot players drink that brainwashes them into believing the shit they post.

Not sure what is meant in this context, tho, because their post seems to be against you, which is anti-Riot, so they're stance must be anti-ANTI-Riot.

So they're obviously using it wrong.

Which, considering the source, seems to be a common occurrence. That guy is not bright AT ALL.

Experience says most of the frothy-mouthed shut-ins aren't too bright or they wouldn't routinely sink full-time career hours into a 23-year-old elf simulator. Chortles has a weak troll game, it's true, which only banks on times when he can say something unoriginal and tack (lol) onto a post like it's an edgy signature. I know autistic people more productive than him.

[Nutsax]

Experience says most of the frothy-mouthed shut-ins aren't too bright or they wouldn't routinely sink full-time career hours into a 23-year-old elf simulator. Chortles has a weak troll game, it's true, which only banks on times when he can say something unoriginal and tack (lol) onto a post like it's an edgy signature. I know autistic people more productive than him.

(lol)
psyche

[jbel123]

You definitely were not there the morning of that Koi engage. Riot had definitely trained us on our engage then attempted to leapfrog us while refusing to concede the mob. What our leader did was a primal scream, a visceral attack on what was at the time the most dominant guild. It said we're not going to take your shit anymore. We're not going to cower to your bullshit petitions that get thrown out half the time, we're not going to care about the stupid politics you play on the forums, and we're going to respond tit for tat. I remember losing nearly every inner ring dragon and Vulak for a year in AG, while Arcler overpetitioned us and played games and rushed our engages. Then acted in public as if we were the young upstarts attempting to cheat to get mobs. Pretty abusive and manipulative. There was a definite identity and cultural difference between AG and Freedom, yet Arcler was/is such a prick, we were able to see a new identity as Vanquish, to kick his ass.
Anyways, you had to of been there I guess. As a person that reads just the forums, I can understand why you don't know.

LOL I was there that day. I guess you don't remember that FRAG had trained riot a couple of times before that incident too.
you forget that the "train" was just mobs you trained away pathing back to their spawn point. Windbardy was standing right next to some AG folks and he happened to be the first one to get aggro on the mobs.

you forget that the retaliation that your guild leader did was to INTENTIONALLY train riot's engage by logging on riot's bot wizard to do so. Lied about it repeatedly and then had to eat the ban when his bullshit got uncovered.

stop pretending it was some kind of William Wallace style rebellion. it was a scumbag move that he thought he might get away with.

[eisley]

Not once in riot discord did he come out and say to anyone "hey guys this was all a misunderstanding, that was me bidding on the bio orb not eisley". Not once. And if he said as such to officers in a DM no one ever conveyed that to the general guild at large so I'm pretty confident it never happened. You lied and got caught in the lie and now you're desperately trying to convince everyone, yourself included, that it wasn't a lie. GL

.... except he did. Literally immediately. He was on the raid. He was even told he didn't have to reapply and was allowed to bid. That's why he bid.

Not only that, but the GM's full exonerated me. Not "we don't know what happened." but "Riot is wrong in their accusation."

Honestly the most worrying part here is that your officers never told you the truth.

[Arvan]

Filed under mad etc.

[Croco]

.... except he did. Literally immediately. He was on the raid. He was even told he didn't have to reapply and was allowed to bid. That's why he bid.

Not only that, but the GM's full exonerated me. Not "we don't know what happened." but "Riot is wrong in their accusation."

Honestly the most worrying part here is that your officers never told you the truth.

Yeah none of that ever happened. Your brother wasn't on that raid and didn't attend any of the other raids that day. You did, you attended them all. Gm's don't get involved with he said/she said guild disputes. Trying to get them to intervene was just a last ditch effort to get you to give back the item you stole. No one thought it would actually work. The fact that you keep on with this charade when literally all the evidence is stacked against you is sad. You lied, at least admit it. What's worse is a lying scumbag who swears up and down that they aren't a lying scumbag when it's obvious to anyone paying attention.

[jbel123]

dont' worry - he'll sell you one of his 12 holgresh beads and 72 donals legs

[Twochain]

Experience says most of the frothy-mouthed shut-ins aren't too bright or they wouldn't routinely sink full-time career hours into a 23-year-old elf simulator. Chortles has a weak troll game, it's true, which only banks on times when he can say something unoriginal and tack (lol) onto a post like it's an edgy signature. I know autistic people more productive than him.

There are a lot of hyper productive autistic people out there.

Elon Musk is the poster child of weaponized autism.

[cd288]

What lie? You bid dkp that wasn't yours on a raid where you literally posted that it was you on your brothers character that you were bidding on. You spent dkp that wasn't yours on a very expensive droppable item then peace'd out to VQ almost immediately afterwards. Of course the gm's weren't going to take it. They aren't going to intervene in random guild affairs. From their perspective you were awarded an item from a raid. No server rules were broken.

There was tons of evidence supporting the garbage that you pulled but you're too much of a deceitful coward to give the item back that you effectively stole. Which is why you fucked off to VQ because you knew Riot was going to kick you anyways after you didn't give the orb back. But ya know, whatever copium you need to feed yourself.

Oh wow. OP gets fully outed now. This is amazing. Tries to act all holier than thou in his comments (which is already ironic considering he made this post in the first place). And now he’s frantically scrabbling to save face after not only everyone shitting on his original post but someone else coming in with the actual story about what OP is like in game and stuff he has pulled on people.

Wow OP just wow…

[starkind]

How do ISFP help when kinda crazy?

Don't believe in autism it's just another way to dehumanize and say "this person can't be healed to feel again". In "functional" cases

Would feel bad to just get labeled autistic and told feelings are for normies only. Then neglected unless someone needs said persons strongest skillset.

[cd288]

Yeah none of that ever happened. Your brother wasn't on that raid and didn't attend any of the other raids that day. You did, you attended them all. Gm's don't get involved with he said/she said guild disputes. Trying to get them to intervene was just a last ditch effort to get you to give back the item you stole. No one thought it would actually work. The fact that you keep on with this charade when literally all the evidence is stacked against you is sad. You lied, at least admit it. What's worse is a lying scumbag who swears up and down that they aren't a lying scumbag when it's obvious to anyone paying attention.

Easy solution for OP. If the GMs determined things the way he claims, surely he has discord/forum messages or tells from them saying so. OP could post those as proof.

Anytime anyone says “the GMs did or said X” but can’t post proof of it, they’re just making stuff up.

[eisley]

Oh wow. OP gets fully outed now. This is amazing. Tries to act all holier than thou in his comments (which is already ironic considering he made this post in the first place). And now he’s frantically scrabbling to save face after not only everyone shitting on his original post but someone else coming in with the actual story about what OP is like in game and stuff he has pulled on people.

Wow OP just wow…

You mean your guildmate getting proven wrong? :[ He himself admits they petitioned me. Why not ask him or your officers for screenshots of the petition? :D

Yeah none of that ever happened. Your brother wasn't on that raid and didn't attend any of the other raids that day. You did, you attended them all. Gm's don't get involved with he said/she said guild disputes. Trying to get them to intervene was just a last ditch effort to get you to give back the item you stole. No one thought it would actually work. The fact that you keep on with this charade when literally all the evidence is stacked against you is sad. You lied, at least admit it. What's worse is a lying scumbag who swears up and down that they aren't a lying scumbag when it's obvious to anyone paying attention.

He was on a bunch of raids. This is why you guys had to attempt to petition me for two-boxing as well, which was proven untrue. This is precisely what I mean about Riot's own lies getting to the point that even they can't keep their own story straight.

What I don't get is why you guys got so angry over me leaving. At frst, I wasn't even necessarily leaving the guild. I just said the new raid rules aren't for me, they seemed fine with it. Next thing they're making bizarre accusations that were certain to backfire from the start. Like, why? I could never figure out what they stood to gain.

Anyways. Unroot dragons and go back to 1 hour lockouts.

[Samoht]

This is why you guys had to attempt to petition me for two-boxing as well, which was proven untrue. This is precisely what I mean about Riot's own lies getting to the point that even they can't keep their own story straight.

Their strategy is literally to throw a bunch of potential issues and see what sticks.

[Fammaden]

Any updates OP?

[Ripqozko]

Any updates OP?

He will sell you one of his 455 donals legs or you can get one shiny new bio orb, PM him.

[Chortles Snortles]

(lol)

[Zoggren]

LOL I was there that day. I guess you don't remember that FRAG had trained riot a couple of times before that incident too.
you forget that the "train" was just mobs you trained away pathing back to their spawn point. Windbardy was standing right next to some AG folks and he happened to be the first one to get aggro on the mobs.

you forget that the retaliation that your guild leader did was to INTENTIONALLY train riot's engage by logging on riot's bot wizard to do so. Lied about it repeatedly and then had to eat the ban when his bullshit got uncovered.

stop pretending it was some kind of William Wallace style rebellion. it was a scumbag move that he thought he might get away with.

Again, more excuses/lies from Riot members. This is why we still relish sticking it to you. Riot is never wrong, farts don't smell, misremember, alternative facts, etc..

How does number 2 feel on you?

[Zoggren]

I Love Balls.


Hey I ain't mad at ya.

[cd288]

You mean your guildmate getting proven wrong? :[ He himself admits they petitioned me. Why not ask him or your officers for screenshots of the petition? :D



He was on a bunch of raids. This is why you guys had to attempt to petition me for two-boxing as well, which was proven untrue. This is precisely what I mean about Riot's own lies getting to the point that even they can't keep their own story straight.

What I don't get is why you guys got so angry over me leaving. At frst, I wasn't even necessarily leaving the guild. I just said the new raid rules aren't for me, they seemed fine with it. Next thing they're making bizarre accusations that were certain to backfire from the start. Like, why? I could never figure out what they stood to gain.

Anyways. Unroot dragons and go back to 1 hour lockouts.

My guild mate? I’m in a casual guild that barely raids lol

[Senix]

I'm pretty sure I bought a few peggy cloak's from OP in early kunark days, he might still be sitting on all that old cloak farming money.

[Croco]

Heard OP got kicked from vanquish for lying too much and being annoying AF. Some things change, and some things stay exactly the same.

[Dabeach]

I heard hes now forming his own competitive guild and taking half of Vanq with him....

[Ripqozko]

Did he really? Lol

[jbel123]

i heard OP has so much in-game plat that he's using it to do an LBO of the server and he's going to kill Rogean and Nilbog out and unroot the dragons himself.

[Viscere]

OP started ranting about GMs corruption, Aliens, people teleporting in VP...

People got tired and they were booted b4 vote lol

[Allishia]

OP started ranting about GMs corruption, Aliens, people teleporting in VP...

People got tired and they were booted b4 vote lol

Op was not booted, she left on her own before the vote. /nod.

[Toxigen]

holy immersion

[hobart]

So, op is too socially retarded to make it in a pixels>people guild lead by Detoxx?

Is that the takeaway here?

[xdrcfrx]

So, op is too socially retarded to make it in a pixels>people guild lead by Detoxx?

Is that the takeaway here?

big if true

[Allishia]

So, op is too socially retarded to make it in a pixels>people guild lead by Detoxx?

Is that the takeaway here?

That's really poor word to use. But we will never know because they left before the vote went up. She could have made it in, I was planning to vote yes and I'm sure others were as well /nod.

[Chortles Snortles]

(lol)

[Lewkeng]

Op was not booted, she left on her own before the vote. /nod.

Ummm..

[cd288]

Heard OP got kicked from vanquish for lying too much and being annoying AF. Some things change, and some things stay exactly the same.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

Rarely do I read something in RnF this funny. OP spent HOURS crapping on other guilds, mocking people about how his guild is the best, and defending Vanquish to the utmost and then they kicked him lmaoooo

[Ripqozko]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

Rarely do I read something in RnF this funny. OP spent HOURS crapping on other guilds, mocking people about how his guild is the best, and defending Vanquish to the utmost and then they kicked him lmaoooo

OP will sell you a donals leg tho

[Naethyn]

Everything was going great until https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=400701

[Gustoo]

At least I won't miss an item I never had. Hah!

[Harvest]

Pretty satisfactory ending to a car crash of a thread. A+

[cd288]

OP please respond

[Toxigen]

Everything was going great until https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=400701

lol

[starkind]

Can we plz get <Riot> renamed to <Terrorism>?

[hobart]

OP seems quiet. Probably out doing what other non-immersed cool and normals do. Wonder if she will app Riot?

[cd288]

OP seems quiet. Probably out doing what other non-immersed cool and normals do. Wonder if she will app Riot?

I mean you’d have to think he/she is leaving P99 right? Their persona was clearly so wrapped up in pixel lust and lording it over the rest of the server as evidenced by their comments (including claiming that anyone who disagrees with them is just a jealous Riot member)…so I don’t see where they go from here. They can’t be the top dog and mock everyone for not getting mobs anymore so how are they going to have fun? And even if they were to join other guilds, who will take them? They spent month insulting Riot, so they obviously can’t join them. Kittens? Why would Kittens want a member like this?

And when Vanquish eventually folds and becomes a new top guild, the leadership I’m assuming will remember that they kicked this person and don’t want to deal with them. So OP won’t be a part of that new guild either. Honestly after writing this I am concerned for OP’s well being; they seemed so obsessed with their position as a Vanquish member that I’m worried for them now.

[Allishia]

At least it's spring and nice outside now. Don't really play much eq in summer anyway :)

[adruidarkly]

ITT: grasping for meaning to the 10234324th dragon kills

[Chortles Snortles]

(lol)

[Reiwa]

I mean you’d have to think he/she is leaving P99 right? Their persona was clearly so wrapped up in pixel lust and lording it over the rest of the server as evidenced by their comments (including claiming that anyone who disagrees with them is just a jealous Riot member)…so I don’t see where they go from here. They can’t be the top dog and mock everyone for not getting mobs anymore so how are they going to have fun? And even if they were to join other guilds, who will take them? They spent month insulting Riot, so they obviously can’t join them. Kittens? Why would Kittens want a member like this?

And when Vanquish eventually folds and becomes a new top guild, the leadership I’m assuming will remember that they kicked this person and don’t want to deal with them. So OP won’t be a part of that new guild either. Honestly after writing this I am concerned for OP’s well being; they seemed so obsessed with their position as a Vanquish member that I’m worried for them now.

I'd say you're overly concerned to the point of reveling in it, Lib.

[Croco]

OP seems quiet. Probably out doing what other non-immersed cool and normals do. Wonder if she will app Riot?

They were in riot already and burned that bridge down with napalm. Also fairly certain they went by he/him while in riot but is all the sudden she/her. Unless they were trans all along and just never said anything, which is totally fine. Given the history though seems like more lies on top of all the other lies.

[eisley]

Everything was going great until https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=400701

Naethyn, remember when I was trying to get this nerfed before I got it? That was an intense few months :]

#classic

[eisley]

They were in riot already and burned that bridge down with napalm. Also fairly certain they went by he/him while in riot but is all the sudden she/her. Unless they were trans all along and just never said anything, which is totally fine. Given the history though seems like more lies on top of all the other lies.

More accurately I never claimed anything.

What is with you two? Posting over and over isn't going to make anyone think there's some legion against me. They can see it's two people posting. Move on. Even I'm bored of this thread.

No one thinks I stole anything from Riot, including Riot.

[Croco]

Yeah except the legion of people within riot that do and found it hilarious that you got kicked from VQ for being an annoying liar. Two things a lot of us in Riot have a lot of experience with.

[cd288]

More accurately I never claimed anything.

What is with you two? Posting over and over isn't going to make anyone think there's some legion against me. They can see it's two people posting. Move on. Even I'm bored of this thread.

No one thinks I stole anything from Riot, including Riot.

OP pls tell us how you’re doing. Worried for you now that everything you were apparently living for has been taken away.

What guild are you going to join now? It’s good that they implemented the roll system you were hating on because this way you’ll get some more jobs in your new guild!

[Reiwa]

OP pls tell us how you’re doing. Worried for you now that everything you were apparently living for has been taken away.

What guild are you going to join now? It’s good that they implemented the roll system you were hating on because this way you’ll get some more jobs in your new guild!

Schade is a sign of bad brain thing I don't remember what it's called.

[Chortles Snortles]

i am very smart

[Tunabros]

i am very smart

*short

(lol)

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/Liqro6i.jpg

[Tunabros]

https://i.imgur.com/zDUhVXZ.png

[Gatordash]

"Respect the Roll." How do you guys come up with this shit :D:D:D

Kittens: "we'd prob prefer to respect the roll"
Riot: "respect the original order of the rolls"
Lighthouse: "Respecting the roll order seems like its a great change"
Aegis: "respecting original order may be best"