First character question...

[Dural_Levant]

So, my buddy and I want start playing again, we usually team up and do our own thing.

He plays a Warrior and I play a Druid. The team-up usually works out well.

This time around, my GF wants to try playing the game with us. She’s not sure what her first character should be.

What would work best with a Druid and a Warrior? An Enchanter? Or perhaps a Bard?

[Andyman1022]

Enchanter is the most powerful class in this era, period. Adding one would exponentially increase your power ceiling.

[cd288]

Bard could work if she wants to deal with twisting songs. Shaman could work because you’ll need the extra healing when you get to higher level and the slow/haste will be highly beneficial. In the same vain about needing healing when you get to higher levels, a cleric could be good if she wants a more chill class just to heal stuff.

[Skarne]

I'd say Bard or Enchanter.

Probably Enchanter because of the slows and pet dps.

Bard can do similar things, but are less effective and do less dps than an enchanter pet. Also, there's a ceiling in terms of which mobs a bard can charm due to level and it's also kind of a pain to keep them charmed as well. The charm songs only last for 10-15 seconds.

Having said that, if it were me, I'd want to play bard but that's only because it's my favorite class by far.

[Toxigen]

Asking a GF to hop right in and play an enchanter with zero experience isn't going to end well unless shes already a proven gamer.

Stick her on a cleric. You play the enchanter. Catch up to your friends warrior. Now you have the god tier trio.

She can do her thing...doesn't have to be 100% focused. Just heal the war, you, your pet, etc...throw some roots around when needed and buff.

When she inevitably quits shortly after realizing how stupid EQ is at least you'll have a cleric bot around for rezzes. Make sure you've got 1 char per account.

[Skarne]

Asking a GF to hop right in and play an enchanter with zero experience isn't going to end well unless shes already a proven gamer.

Stick her on a cleric. You play the enchanter. Catch up to your friends warrior. Now you have the god tier trio.

She can do her thing...doesn't have to be 100% focused. Just heal the war, you, your pet, etc...throw some roots around when needed and buff.

When she inevitably quits shortly after realizing how stupid EQ is at least you'll have a cleric bot around for rezzes. Make sure you've got 1 char per account.

Is good pt

[Dural_Levant]

Asking a GF to hop right in and play an enchanter with zero experience isn't going to end well unless shes already a proven gamer.

Stick her on a cleric. You play the enchanter. Catch up to your friends warrior. Now you have the god tier trio.

She can do her thing...doesn't have to be 100% focused. Just heal the war, you, your pet, etc...throw some roots around when needed and buff.

When she inevitably quits shortly after realizing how stupid EQ is at least you'll have a cleric bot around for rezzes. Make sure you've got 1 char per account.

Your reply really has me thinking...

On one hand, leveling up my enchanter would be fun, but would it be worth giving up SoW and Druid teleports.

On the other hand, my GF is an experienced gamer, but she mostly plays fps games like Borderlands. Would that gaming skill-set translate well to EQ?

[Skarne]

Your reply really has me thinking...

On one hand, leveling up my enchanter would be fun, but would it be worth giving up SoW and Druid teleports.

On the other hand, my GF is an experienced gamer, but she mostly plays fps games like Borderlands. Would that gaming skill-set translate well to EQ?

No, not at all. FPS skills do not transfer to EQ in any way that I can think of.

I take that back, maybe her reaction time would be better than some who weren't FPS players. Other than that I doubt her experience would compare to Counter-Strike or Borderlands etc.

[Aeaolena]

On the other hand, my GF is an experienced gamer, but she mostly plays fps games like Borderlands. Would that gaming skill-set translate well to EQ?

Yes.

Put her on an enchanter.


Source: Am girl who plays an enchanter in a raiding guild, among other types of games.

[Aeaolena]

Remember: All that really matters is if she will have fun.

If she's used to the fast-pace of a FPS, the enchanter won't bore her to death.

If she's not bored, she'll be more likely to play. If she's more likely to play, playing EQ will become a bonding activity. One bonding activity leads to other bonding activities, if ya know what I mean. Plus who wouldn't want to charm a fae drake hatchling as their pet? This is the easiest decision in the world, my dude. Good luck to you!

[Jibartik]

When she inevitably quits shortly after realizing how stupid EQ is at least you'll have a cleric bot

lol I love how the male in this equation just keeps playing.

Great post.. And good truth.

[Toxigen]

Your reply really has me thinking...

On one hand, leveling up my enchanter would be fun, but would it be worth giving up SoW and Druid teleports.

On the other hand, my GF is an experienced gamer, but she mostly plays fps games like Borderlands. Would that gaming skill-set translate well to EQ?


1. Yes it is worth giving up sow and teleports. Ideally, your trio will travel to a high ZEM dungeon and farm / progress there until it mostly "greens out" then move onto the next high ZEM zone. /who all druid and you can generally find someone willing to come teleport your group around for some plat.

2. OK, so the girlfriend can hang. She may wind up enjoying enchanter, but just make sure to teach her about alllllll the mechanics involved in playing one decently well.

Besides, if she really doesn't like it (the enc)...you can always swap and take over.

[fable_kid]

Play monk shammy. You will thank me later.

[Bardp1999]

Monk Shaman Necromancer is the most fun trio in the game from my experience but really shines higher level.

Monk pulls and tanks, shaman hastes and buffs and slows and (at lower levels) heals, necromancer does great DPS and can life transfer to the shaman to counteract canni life loss and at higher levels pretty much take over healing with Shadowbond. Also 2 pets to aid the monk for damage and 2 roots for adds. Also 2 FD so only 1 corpse run most of the time if shit goes wild (sorry shammy).

Enchanters are the Alpha of P99 but I dont think a new player should be on one

[Tunabros]

+1 on not playing enchanter for a new player

[Toxigen]

Monk Shaman Necromancer is the most fun trio in the game from my experience but really shines higher level.




I always +1 this too for starter friendly trio. Super capable with very little gear, forgiving, easy to learn, etc.

[Goldknyght]

You guys are crazy! Tell her to play whatever class she feels she would like. If this is her first toon ever, let her figure it out on her own and dont pigeon hole her into Best Class in ERA or whatever nonsense. Ask her what role she wants, then have her decided out of that role which class she perfers to play. U have the base set up for your group with druid/warrior. So she can play whatever she wants.

edit: And if she wants to re-roll later. she has one of the ultimate power levelers in you as a druid.

[strongNpretty]

If you want to take somebody shooting for the first time, you don't suggest a fuckin Panzerschreck man.

[Tunabros]

You guys are crazy! Tell her to play whatever class she feels she would like. If this is her first toon ever, let her figure it out on her own and dont pigeon hole her into Best Class in ERA or whatever nonsense. Ask her what role she wants, then have her decided out of that role which class she perfers to play. U have the base set up for your group with druid/warrior. So she can play whatever she wants.

edit: And if she wants to re-roll later. she has one of the ultimate power levelers in you as a druid.

found the ranger

[Gustoo]

Monk Shaman Necromancer is the most fun trio in the game from my experience but really shines higher level.

Monk pulls and tanks, shaman hastes and buffs and slows and (at lower levels) heals, necromancer does great DPS and can life transfer to the shaman to counteract canni life loss and at higher levels pretty much take over healing with Shadowbond. Also 2 pets to aid the monk for damage and 2 roots for adds. Also 2 FD so only 1 corpse run most of the time if shit goes wild (sorry shammy).

Enchanters are the Alpha of P99 but I dont think a new player should be on one

Best winning combo for sure. All 3 are champ classes in their own right and as a trio they work efficiently together for winning the game.

[eqravenprince]

Being new, I'd say give her a class without much responsibility other than DPS.
Magician, Necro, Wizard, or any melee class.

[Fawqueue]

So, my buddy and I want start playing again, we usually team up and do our own thing.

He plays a Warrior and I play a Druid. The team-up usually works out well.

This time around, my GF wants to try playing the game with us. She’s not sure what her first character should be.

What would work best with a Druid and a Warrior? An Enchanter? Or perhaps a Bard?

Decades of Dungeons & Dragons have taught us the right answer for the girlfriend is Cleric. Bonus points if you insist she roleplays as mute.

[Gannonpwns]

Enchanter is fine for a first time character. I did it and it was a blast. Especially if you have a play group, all she'll need to do is mezz and haste.
Don't immediately start charm solo'ing and you'll be fine.

This game requires 4 APM, you don't need gamer skillz to be good, only awareness.

[Nerfromancer]

If she's looking to give it a serious shot and isn't just humoring you give her a basic rundown of the class roles in the game and have her read the wiki for the ones that sound interesting to her.

Everquest isn't a monstrously complex game, anyone who cares enough to engage with it and its systems will be able to master whatever class they choose, but Enchanters do rely on a great deal of general game and systems knowledge while also being the highest engagement class in terms of having to be constantly paying attention if you're fully utilizing them, which can get old in an otherwise extremely slow paced game. They are a poor choice of first character for most people, if they're not coming to the game with a lot of established MMO experience.

If she checks out the classes on the wiki and thinks Enchanter sounds cool she'll be fine with it, but don't press it on a new player because some forums idiots convinced you to.

Someone also mentioned Shaman Monk Necromancer earlier in the thread which would be great both as a group and as a trio of strong solo classes that you can all putz around on and do shit on solo when you feel like it.

[DMN]

warrior is virtually useless in small grouping situations. even in best casse scenarios they struggle to be anything other than an exp leech. contributing virtually nothing especially if untwinked.

you are best off copletely ignoring the warriors exsitence entirely and just consider him an exp penlty. then you want to roll either a necro or enchanter to make up the diffierence.

[PatChapp]

Warriors are great, as long as you root mobs theyre agro problems aren't as issue. Higher damage than other tank classes, but yes they are very expensive to gear out and extremely gear dependant.

[DMN]

Warriors are great, as long as you root mobs theyre agro problems aren't as issue. Higher damage than other tank classes, but yes they are very expensive to gear out and extremely gear dependant.

no they arent great in duo/trios. they are pretty terrrible. and duo/trios should never put a premium on tanking enemies. mana is much better spent killing things than healing some feckless noodle swinging buckethead LARPing as Conan.

[Jimjam]

warrior is virtually useless in small grouping situations. even in best casse scenarios they struggle to be anything other than an exp leech. contributing virtually nothing especially if untwinked.

you are best off copletely ignoring the warriors exsitence entirely and just consider him an exp penlty. then you want to roll either a necro or enchanter to make up the diffierence.

Have a 60, 56, 55, 43, 24 and 22 warrior. Can confirm.

[Dural_Levant]

Thanks to everyone who replied, this is some solid advice.

So, we chose the Warrior/Druid duo for sentimental reasons. My buddy and I have been friends since like the 3rd grade. As kids we would play make-believe in the wood behind my house. He would always be a fighter, while I chose a magic user. As teenagers we would play variations of this duo in D&D games.

When EQ was first released in ‘99 we wanted to carry on this tradition. I chose a Wizard at first, but quickly learned it wouldn’t pair well with a Warrior, so I chose a Druid instead. Nostalgia drove us to recreate our original characters for Project 1999.

I am intrigued, however, by the suggestion of a Necro/Shaman/Monk trio. I will talk to the others about it; It would be fun to create a trio of Iskar.

[Jimjam]

Good luck!

Do you want to be hooked up with some starter gear or wpuld you rather fond it on your own adventures?

[Gustoo]

Warrior druid will be a robust duo, doesn't matter if its limited compared to some higher tier duos. You guys can both get to level 60 easily together and get to be bad ass classes you love.

[DMN]

I am intrigued, however, by the suggestion of a Necro/Shaman/Monk trio. I will talk to the others about it; It would be fun to create a trio of Iskar.

That sounds like something that would indeed be something pretty fun to do. SK is also a viable alternative to the monk in that team, if your friend really wants to stick to the warrior-esque aesthetics. The ceiling is a bit lower but it's not going be much of a difference. it much more important that you enjoy the class(es) you pick to play than worring about marginal power differences.

[Toxigen]

I am intrigued, however, by the suggestion of a Necro/Shaman/Monk trio. I will talk to the others about it; It would be fun to create a trio of Iskar.

Its probably the best trio out there that doesn't use an enchanter. Highly recommended for a new / fresh start static group like you have going.

[DMN]

Best general usage trio not using enc is nec/sha/bard.

[Jimjam]

Best general usage trio not using enc is nec/sha/bard.

That is an interesting assertion and would love to see it expanded. How would they be used together at the different level ranges?

[eqravenprince]

3 necros is the answer. Hardest thing to deal with is stuff being too easy.

[Gustoo]

Yeah pretty much, and everyone has feign death so only legendary screw ups should result in deaths.