View Full Version : Wake me up when Green 2.0 is announced
eqravenprince
04-12-2022, 10:51 AM
Forums are dead right now. Game is meh. Need something new. Ready for Green 2.0.
Bardp1999
04-12-2022, 10:55 AM
I fear you are in for a long sleep friend, 2023+
Gustoo
04-12-2022, 11:06 AM
Even longer if they run red 2 first which seems likely.
If you are a non pvp guy enjoy one of the two currently 500 plus pop servers and be happy
eqravenprince
04-12-2022, 11:46 AM
Even longer if they run red 2 first which seems likely.
If you are a non pvp guy enjoy one of the two currently 500 plus pop servers and be happy
I will say this about the 50 or so people who play pvp, they are a confident and vocal bunch.
sajbert
04-12-2022, 01:06 PM
I will say this about the 50 or so people who play pvp, they are a confident and vocal bunch.
Isn't it really just this guy?
Tunabros
04-12-2022, 01:48 PM
wake me up when september ends
Gustoo
04-12-2022, 02:33 PM
My rationale for stating that it seems more likely to see a red 2.0 before we see a green 2.0 is that Red 2.0 or the PVP Discord server have actually been discussed in the past, even if it's been several years now. In contrast, while the green -> merger was planned from the beginning of green launch, I have not seen any discussion from the staff about a green 2.0.
I'm really not super confident here, just speculating with the extremely limited information I have.
And after some of the most challenging aspects of green 1.0 some players might be interested in trying a server with a different take on things, and it could really bring more players into the fold because EQ PVP is an extremely rare sub genre of MMO's, and many many players missed out on this kind of real pvp versus the hand hold childs play PVP of a more "modern" MMO.
I'm not confident, just hopeful.
And my comments were meant to encourage all of the non PVP players to take advantage of the fact that you currently have TWO 500+ population single box EQ emulator servers that do a better job of recreating 2001 era everquest than really anyone could ever have hoped for a non SOE server. Sure they are at the end of their timeline but you've got 500 people to interact with, that is pretty robust. Waiting what could be YEARS for a new timeline progression server seems like a pretty hard line to take when the existing servers are so healthy.
Red 1.0 on the other hand has been double digit population for several years now after multiple server cataclysms and the interest in a "fresh start" encouraging people to TRY pvp will certainly bring a lot of new people into the pvp version of the game.
On PVP EQ almost 50% more items suddenly actually make a difference to your playing experience, and resists matter for more than just dragon killing. It's really a more dynamic way of playing. The "mean PK's" are significantly less of a nuissance than the "mean permacampers" you run into on a blue server cock blocking every camp and being assholes in general with impertinence.
Basically, try it and you'll like it. Red 1.0 in its dead state really doesn't give a decent representation of what EQ PVP is like so it's hard to recommend to people except any skilled player who wants to quest and actually find camps open.
JDAm0nk
04-12-2022, 03:06 PM
It's confusing to me that the staff here spends so much time dealing with the raid scene yet the entire community can't get a yearly (or two) update to talk about the project's overall status.
PatChapp
04-12-2022, 03:50 PM
It's confusing to me that the staff here spends so much time dealing with the raid scene yet the entire community can't get a yearly (or two) update to talk about the project's overall status.
You just asked and answered your own question
Only so many volunteers, very busy dealing with other things
Scalem
04-12-2022, 06:06 PM
If you think we are getting any new servers or a merger at any point before the heat death of the universe I got some beach front property in South Dakota to sell you.
Gustoo
04-12-2022, 06:27 PM
Scalem what do you think has changed since Red and Green launch that would make the launch of Red 2 or Green 2 such a long shot?
Its about to be driven into the ground even harder when Smash and friends from ST wake the Sleeper
meathook
04-13-2022, 08:23 AM
https://i.imgur.com/o6RutQa.png
eqravenprince
04-13-2022, 09:30 AM
https://i.imgur.com/o6RutQa.png
That's disappointing.
DeathsSilkyMist
04-13-2022, 10:46 AM
Blistig's comment there isn't really proof of anything. Of course the Dev's are going to keep any info on Green 2.0 close to the chest as long as possible. They want people to play Green. If they announced a new server 2-3 years in advance, people would probably stop rolling new characters on Green sooner than if they didn't announce it. That would obviously be bad for the Green community. The Dev's gain nothing from releasing Green 2.0 news, and potentially harm Green if they do.
The idea for Green was to cycle it every time the old one ends, so I doubt that plan has changed. It is my understanding that was the entire goal of P99, to have a classic server that resets every X years.
The main reason why I am skeptical of Red 2.0 is because Red has been dead for many years. People vote with their feet, and I just don't see a lot of community hype for Red 2.0. So the Dev's are going to be less willing to reset Red to please the 50 who are willing to play on a dead server anyway.
cd288
04-13-2022, 11:13 AM
Even longer if they run red 2 first which seems likely.
If you are a non pvp guy enjoy one of the two currently 500 plus pop servers and be happy
“Which seems likely”
lol based on what? Where has the staff ever said anything that indicates they will most likely focus on a pvp server over the next roll out of green?
Hesseth
04-13-2022, 01:38 PM
Sleeper always get woke and always will be. Now its up to you to take your lessons from this and be on the warder loot train next time around. Everyone knew this was going to happen. I stopped raiding months back and it was known then.
No matter how it goes down Seal Team will be always known and the rest will come and go with barely a whisper.
It could of been worse. Never wake it and because of that no merger could happen and no reason to start a new server. Why have two... er three dead servers with one populated. This gives time now for the economies to get more inline with each other and make for smoother transition.
Elijah850
04-13-2022, 02:07 PM
I'd argue that if the Red Server was reset right now, it would see higher concurrent numbers then Red 1.0 ever did. The content end with the p99 timeline also ends engagement from many who were playing religiously throughout the progression just for the simple fact that repeating the same content kills the magic that was the classic era.
I have still yet to understand how anyone unemployed or otherwise can truly enjoy playing a server with literally nothing new to experience after literally years locked in era.
I enjoyed Green. Never played Blue. In the last few months I've lost the desire to play on Green just for the simple fact I have less time to play and enjoy competing in the meta that is P99 endgame.
The only thing, in my mind, that would awaken(RiP ST 1.0 I hear) my desire to put time in to p99 again would be a fresh server.
I'm sure some would be sad to lose their characters on Red 1.0, but I'd be willing to bet that even a reset of Red that started in Endgame era would quickly find itself more populated then 1.0 ever was with a duality of people reveling in the fresh start and also those grinding to regain or attain their infamous PvP status on a fresh slate.
New Red! I'd play!
DeathsSilkyMist
04-13-2022, 02:28 PM
I'd argue that if the Red Server was reset right now, it would see higher concurrent numbers then Red 1.0 ever did. The content end with the p99 timeline also ends engagement from many who were playing religiously throughout the progression just for the simple fact that repeating the same content kills the magic that was the classic era.
I have still yet to understand how anyone unemployed or otherwise can truly enjoy playing a server with literally nothing new to experience after literally years locked in era.
I enjoyed Green. Never played Blue. In the last few months I've lost the desire to play on Green just for the simple fact I have less time to play and enjoy competing in the meta that is P99 endgame.
The only thing, in my mind, that would awaken(RiP ST 1.0 I hear) my desire to put time in to p99 again would be a fresh server.
I'm sure some would be sad to lose their characters on Red 1.0, but I'd be willing to bet that even a reset of Red that started in Endgame era would quickly find itself more populated then 1.0 ever was with a duality of people reveling in the fresh start and also those grinding to regain or attain their infamous PvP status on a fresh slate.
New Red! I'd play!
I don't think anyone is saying people wouldn't try out a Red 2.0. Any new server on P99 will get quite a bit of attention. The question is will it retain players? Unless they drastically change how Red works, I doubt people will stick to Red 2.0 for long, which will just make it another dead server.
Coridan
04-14-2022, 08:42 AM
No one wants a red 2.0 but people would probably be willing to try either VZ or SZ team PvP servers.
Enderenter
05-27-2023, 04:05 PM
Red is dead. Long live green 2.0.
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