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Mustaza
06-20-2011, 10:41 PM
Has anyone else had folks in their guild effected by this?

My guild has had 2 people's accounts hacked, all gear stripped, one even had all his characters deleted. Information was confirmed private. GM's sadly said they could do nothing about it (which really stinks) and we've had to pull together twice now to get them back on track. Curious if any other guilds have suffered from random hacks.

BelenosThePagan
06-20-2011, 10:43 PM
That's a shame, I'm sorry to hear that's happening here.

naekko
06-21-2011, 12:56 AM
Make sure the issue isn't a vulnerability on your end. What I mean is your website's forum, CMS or DKP system. If it keeps happening to just your guild, consider checking into that. There are known issues with older versions of EQDKP and all the major forums / CMS systems have public and private exploits.

Make sure your guild knows not to use the same login information on ANY website that they use for their account. Make a new login, password for just forums and non trustworthy sites.

Internet 101.

Zereh
06-21-2011, 01:22 AM
GM's sadly said they could do nothing about it (which really stinks).

=*( Not true. They can do something. Not doing anything is their choice. I'd be raising a ruckus if it happened to me...

JenJen
06-21-2011, 01:48 AM
this happened to me on live years ago - logged in one day, had been stripped of all armor, de mask destroyed, de-leveled about ten or so levels. the head gm on my server said he thought i'd been hacked "fairly" but refused to reinstate anything. i probably cried a little!

if they are refusing to help you here, id guess they think something's a bit fishy

naekko
06-21-2011, 01:55 AM
It's probably retribution for fucking with Heartbeats that one time. TMO never forgets.

Happyfeet
06-21-2011, 03:24 AM
It's probably retribution for fucking with Heartbeats that one time. TMO never forgets.

Ya for sure man, we're like fucking awesome elephants.
No idea what you're talking about though.

Ledzepp02
06-21-2011, 03:56 AM
It's probably retribution for fucking with Heartbeats that one time. TMO never forgets.

Do you swear to speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth....and yadda yadda

Abacab "The REAL truth"
06-21-2011, 04:08 AM
I used to log on other peoples toons exploiting the EQEMU login, don't think I stripped them but did use them as grief/train bots for a good while

shdwdrake8
06-21-2011, 05:08 AM
GMs said it was some "new policy" about returning items being the reason nothing was restored. Also, our forum is pretty secure unless someone is using the same login for that as their account info...

Extunarian
06-21-2011, 08:06 AM
our forum is pretty secure unless someone is using the same login for that as their account info...

Our forum is secure...but if you use your eqemu login information it isn't secure?

How much account sharing goes on in your guild? I know uthgaard said that they won't be helping people out who pass their accounts around "like trading cards"

Mustaza
06-21-2011, 08:40 AM
Next to zero. The latest hack in particular hadn't shared his information at all. I'm beginning to suspect a vulnerability on EQEMU's end. It's a pretty big bummer for months of folks hard work to be gone by someone feeling like an uber dick one evening.

Messianic
06-21-2011, 09:23 AM
It's also worth mentioning that some people use really crappy passwords...

Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin
06-21-2011, 09:32 AM
Random password generators are your friend. It make take more effort to remember a string of numbers, letters and symbols but it's worth it.

Ihealyou
06-21-2011, 09:46 AM
my password is iloveyou dont hack plx

Diplomacy
06-21-2011, 09:49 AM
I'd say 99.9% of the "hacks" that happen on an EMU account is due to account sharing.

No hacker is going to go through the hurdles necessary to take advantage of your p1999 account information they gleam off of a key log. They have better things to do.

Just because your guildemate says he didn't share doesn't necessarily make that the case.

Regardless, if EMU did in fact have a vulnerability I would have to imagine there would be an epidemic of this problem going on.

Mustaza
06-21-2011, 10:43 AM
*Shrug* Any griefer worth his salt wouldn't know to give it all up on the first date. If farming accounts is to become a sustainable business, you need to space them out...

With that said, I don't think the two were victims of the same person. The first "hack" we experienced had all of his characters and alts completely deleted, while the most recent just had all his valuables looted.

naekko
06-21-2011, 10:51 AM
*Shrug* Any griefer worth his salt wouldn't know to give it all up on the first date. If farming accounts is to become a sustainable business, you need to space them out...

With that said, I don't think the two were victims of the same person. The first "hack" we experienced had all of his characters and alts completely deleted, while the most recent just had all his valuables looted.

Why would they hack your guild and not TR or a guild with access to better loot / higher level characters if there was a vulnerability allowing them to hack any account?

Please don't jump the gun and blame the server. There are so many things that could have happened instead.

Mustaza
06-21-2011, 11:04 AM
My original post is asking that exact question: has anyone else been having issues?

Tiggles
06-21-2011, 11:08 AM
He just stripped all his valuables and gave it to an alt he plans to level because he hates being in a guild with you.

Ektar
06-21-2011, 11:36 AM
there was an issue a while back with some ewires crossing and logging into your own account would result in logging into someone else's character select. I once logged in to someone's level 23 SK or something. Another time someone popped in on one of IBs healthiest enchanters mid-raid and was like WHOA NELSON WHAT'S GOIN ON BREW?!


so this was fixed last I checked but could be something similar that's poppin up.

Ektar
06-21-2011, 11:37 AM
or just a good old hackjob. though why would you delete someone's hcaracters that's so out of the way. Did he try logging in again and uncrossing those ewires?

Mustaza
06-21-2011, 12:00 PM
It was clearly a dick move because after he deleted the characters he took the trouble to create a level 1 female ogre named "Maxipad". This was months ago and never got a response from the GMs on that one, the thread is still alive in petitions.

Eyeke
06-24-2011, 06:29 PM
Just had one of our accounts get hacked too.
no one knew the username or pw.

shdwdrake8
06-24-2011, 06:33 PM
This is a slippery slope into a lot of shittiness across the server unless something changes. Secure accounts getting hacked and no restoration being the new policy... Gonna go all Nostradamus and predict these are signs of the END TIMES BRAH.

Beauregard
06-24-2011, 06:42 PM
Why would they hack your guild and not TR or a guild with access to better loot / higher level characters if there was a vulnerability allowing them to hack any account?

Please don't jump the gun and blame the server. There are so many things that could have happened instead.

My account was hacked today and I am a level 60 with a fungi staff. No one had my info but me.

Ektar
06-24-2011, 06:45 PM
is this the kinda thing where one woman summons the courage to report a rape and then all the women who were afraid to come forward about the guy are now able to?

Pudge
06-24-2011, 06:52 PM
wow. with so many ppl getting hacked maybe the GMs should look into it.. you know, figure out whos doing it, how it might happen.. they should be all over that shit

i know of the "random log in" bug, it's happened to me before multiple times.. but if toons are getting deleted then it seems like maybe it isnt just that bug. even still.. it probably is. just resurfacing somehow or occurring more rarely

also there might be accounts that are getting jacked where the owner doesn't even know, b/c he hasn't logged on in awhile

Ektar
06-24-2011, 07:06 PM
my cleric's manastone is missing. I just assumed one of my notsotrustworthy butItrustedfoolishly friends jacked it.

MAYBE IT WAS HACKED! manastone plz!

jarshale
06-24-2011, 07:10 PM
my cleric's manastone is missing. I just assumed one of my notsotrustworthy butItrustedfoolishly friends jacked it.

MAYBE IT WAS HACKED! manastone plz!

This. Yeah. Oh I also had 1 mil. Also gone. Reimburse plz

Ektar
06-24-2011, 07:10 PM
no for serious. my manastone is missing :p

baalzy
06-24-2011, 07:31 PM
There is so much logging done on the server I'm sure they can find soandso traded X to douchemaster at TheHappeningOClock and then view the IP of the person logged in on soandso and figure from there that something might be fishy.

Not saying the devs WILL, but they could.

jim454ss
06-24-2011, 07:31 PM
I realize its funny to some, but for those who this has happened to, it's not so funny. Although at the end of the day this is just a game, a lot of people pour days and weeks of their real time into it and it means something....

WizardEQ
06-24-2011, 07:43 PM
My guild has had 2 people's accounts hacked, all gear stripped, one even had all his characters deleted.

This sucks man, sorry to hear about it. You have an awesome group of people and this is a serious injustice. I hope the culprit gets tarred and feathered.

bakkily
06-24-2011, 09:13 PM
hell dont share accounts

shdwdrake8
06-25-2011, 02:21 AM
There is so much logging done on the server I'm sure they can find soandso traded X to douchemaster at TheHappeningOClock and then view the IP of the person logged in on soandso and figure from there that something might be fishy.

Not saying the devs WILL, but they could.

This x100