Great value warrior items?

[Enphuego]

As I work through gearing up my warrior, I notice that there are some items that are a really impressive value. Most likely they drop on a regular basis so there's always a good supply.

What are some great deals for a warrior as far as gear goes? Just any items where the cost is low compared to how well it performs. My current budget is around 100p per slot but that will expand as I level I'm sure. I just got my second 5ac/55hp ring which were a priority for me.

[wagorf]

a few on top of my mind

crystal chitin gauntlets
grotesque alloy mask
cloak of the ice bear
Iksar Hide Cap
Tar goo strands

[Jimjam]

Muffins and bandages.

Silver chitin hand wraps more than your budget for one slot, but honestly you can borrow from all the other slot budgets for this. Haste will help you keep aggro in groups or kill faster solo.

That brings us to banded. I’m sure you know of banded armour. Amazing ac for the price. 100pp for a full suit!

Sarnak Battlehammer. Very cheap. 3/4 ratio. Good once you’re high enough level and damage caps are relieved a bit.

Orc fang earrings.

[Deadfather]

In before someone tells you trucheon of doom, blood points and fungi. The very best are drunk fighters with raw hands, bad mouth hygiene.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yeah get Silver Chitin Hand Wraps first and leave some slots empty if necessary. That will help you out more than a bit of banded armor or whatever else.

Also be sure to get at least one decent weapon set.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Green_Jade_Broadsword and https://wiki.project1999.com/Fist_of_Zek would be a pretty good (and cheap) combo.

Not sure if you are on Green or Blue though. These items are more expensive on Green.

[Jimjam]

I have a Jarsath Trident (https://wiki.project1999.com/Jarsath_Trident) (11/22) and Shimmering Partisan (https://wiki.project1999.com/Shimmering_Partisan) (17/39) for sale on green if you are after 1 handers. 10pp for the pair. Let me know if you are interested :)

[Crede]

schw & staff of battle.

[zelld52]

Second the staff of battle. Staff of battle + Silver chitin handwraps and you'll tear through mobs. I was scoring 275 crippling blows at level 24 with a staff of battle.

IMO, 2handers are the way to go for warriors. The aggro weapons rely on procs to generate aggro, but pure melee damage is good for aggro generation, too. Just taunt if the mob is not on you.

2hander also works MUCH better for solo over 2-1handers.

[Philistine]

I agree with the Staff of Battle and SCHW recommendations. Your agro will probably be frustratingly mediocre for most of your leveling career - ask folks to root and don't sweat it too much!

Also, Orc Fang Earrings aren't quite within budget but they're a pretty good get for the price.

[Enphuego]

Thanks for all the suggestions

Currently running Jarsath Trident / Sarnak Parrying Blade for weapons

The Jarsath Trident was gifted, the Sarnak Parrying Blade I bought because I thought it was a good deal at 50pp. Then I turned around and sold my Green Jade Broadsword for 50pp and got my money back =P

If Jimjam is still around with the Shimmering Partisan I would definitely lighten his load for 10pp so he can get back to town.... :)

Staff of Battle is definitely looking like a great deal. Fist of Zek looks awesome for the stats and ratio but I'm not sure if I should spend 300pp on a weapon before dealing with a bunch of slots that are AC only.

Currently wearing mostly Blackened Alloy armor with a few banded slots mixed in and a couple of gifted slots (Charred Boots, Iskar Scale Gloves, Split Paw Hide Mask found on vendor) and a Tattered Mantle I bought to have magical slams at a fair price.

As for the SCHW, agreed they are amazing and a good value. I just don't know if it's worth the time it will take to save up the required 1500pp. In that time I'll make 10 levels or more with no upgrades which ensures better cash flow to buy the SCHW. It's not that it's a bad deal, it's just that I'm cash starved and 10 upgrades at 150pp each give me incremental increases to my agro and survivability where as one great upgrade forces me to endure a lot of levels with the same gear.

[zelld52]

it's just that I'm cash starved and 10 upgrades at 150pp each give me incremental increases to my agro and survivability where as one great upgrade forces me to endure a lot of levels with the same gear.

You're right - you are better off levelling with no upgrades -- but youre incorrect about the survivability and agro in incremental upgrades. The best defense is a good offense when it comes to warriors. Especially pre level 40-45. When you swing at something with a staff of battle and it dies in a handful or dozen of hits, it doesnt have much time to do any damage to you.

your current weapons are 0.5 ratio or less. staff of battle is 0.83 ratio. with silver chitin handwraps its 1.19 ratio. Thats more than 2x the ratio of your current weapons. this game is old and built on easy formulas for melee. high ratio => win big time in melee fights... win big time => take less damage... take less damage => survive more...

Much more than those little 50p, 150p upgrades will do for you.

[Enphuego]

Hmm. I definitely have to sit back and think about this.

It's not that SCHW are bad on a cost/benefit analysis. I agree that killing quickly results in both increased agro and decreased damaged done.

It's just that the price is higher than I can earn. I leveled from 22 - 26 in Mistomoore and when I cashed out I made 300pp. If I were to do that 5 times I'd be able to afford SCHW. But then I'd be level 46?

The cash generation game is highly level dependent if that makes sense. If you can pick between spending the time on 10 levels or SCHW maybe it makes sense to do the 10 levels first then grind out the SCHW money at twice the speed?

It's hard to relate to this if you already have money.... of course it makes sense to drop 2kpp on SCHW and a weapon if you already have 2kpp. Then you can make more money and buy the rest. But if 2kpp is out of your reach until level 35 are you really going to swing rusty weapons to get there?

[zelld52]

if you are grouping as a warrior, gear doesnt mean much for the first 50 levels. just fill each slot with decent AC, and get a good weapon -- thats always been the strategy of a tank class.

theres also much better places to level for cash. Sol A is fantastic for cash generation. /tell clerics, rogues, enchanters, etc to come to Sol A with you. Pick up (share) all of the bricks of ore you can find. Should make several hundred plat per 1-2 levels in Sol A.

[Troxx]

Honestly if you’re on a really tight budget go full banded, a set of 5ac55hp rings and a decent ratio weapons. Save every extra penny until you can afford cheap haste. I’d rather have haste and a decent ratio weapon with garbage elsewhere than middling/low crap filling all slots and no haste.

[zelld52]

Honestly if you’re on a really tight budget go full banded, a set of 5ac55hp rings and a decent ratio weapons. Save every extra penny until you can afford cheap haste. I’d rather have haste and a decent ratio weapon with garbage elsewhere than middling/low crap filling all slots and no haste.

This, OP. I levelled a warrior 20-40 with banded, 5ac 55hp rings, staff of battle and silver chitin handwraps. Mostly solo with bandages, too.

The middling 50/150p upgrades you mention, OP -- you have to resell those when you upgrade them - and you won't recoup the value. If youre seeking best value, SCHW is hard to beat.

[Danth]

I agree that a decent ratio weapon and haste, any haste, give the most bang for the buck. Beyond, Crustacean armor is pretty common in that general price range. All of it is better than banded and a few of the pieces have enough stamina to make them usable most the way to 60.

Danth

[Jimjam]

I find cheap gear with str>weight and passable ac is great for levelling melee. Don’t splurge - with half decent weapon, haste, minimal gear and bandages you’ll get by until lower end raid stuff.

Each point of str subtract weight is worth at least 1 pp each time you vend. Thats an extra stack of bandages, which are like 500hp each (or more).

[Jimjam]

Okay I got the cobalt items to double check, and reckless strength overwrites Kunzar. Kunzar is blocked by reckless strength.

Don't bother with the gloves unless you can't find the boots.

[Enphuego]

Okay I got the cobalt items to double check, and reckless strength overwrites Kunzar. Kunzar is blocked by reckless strength.

Don't bother with the gloves unless you can't find the boots.

I think you meant this for the Troll Warrior thread

[Toxigen]

staff of battle > SCHW > 55 hp rings

then save everything else possible for a fungi if solo

if grouping, get a frostbringer and infestation for aggro

[Troxx]

staff of battle > SCHW > 55 hp rings

then save everything else possible for a fungi if solo

if grouping, get a frostbringer and infestation for aggro

Infestation and FB is good enough to tank high end raids.

+1 to this

Warriors need to focus first and foremost on haste and weapons if they are shy on funds. Ratio first the man 2 good aggro proc weapons. I promise all else will follow with time if you keep playing.

For most classes small upgrades are meaningless but for warriors it’s a long hard road and every little upgrade means a lot.

But … at the low end weapon ratio and haste is god.
Medium to low high end it’s weapon ratio + dex and proc weapons and haste.
High end you have the procs and the haste so pump up the hp/ac/resists.

[Jimjam]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Trochilic%27s_Skean

Trochilic's Skean is a decent rotquest item for warriors.

While levelling in the Faydark area (so crushbone, mistmoore, etc) keep an eye on /who all 46 60 steamfont.

If you see a couple of high levels, especially if one is a druid you might be in luck!

Renux Herkanor is a reasonably often killed epic fight for rogues, and Trochilic's Skean drops every time. Send a tell to the high levels asking whether they are doing the Renux fight and whether you could come loot the weapon. It has a reasonable ratio for levels 13-45 and an excellent aggro proc 46+.

Similarly, if you see a bunch of high levels in Kithicor Forest ask them whether anyone has claimed https://wiki.project1999.com/Scimitar_of_the_Ykesha . This item isn't quite as good, but drops reasonably frequently there too (also for what is ostensibly a rogue epic fight). These weapons will get you by until you can get a Frostbringer and / or Infestation.

[Allishia]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Trochilic%27s_Skean

Trochilic's Skean is a decent rotquest item for warriors.

While levelling in the Faydark area (so crushbone, mistmoore, etc) keep an eye on /who all 46 60 steamfont.

If you see a couple of high levels, especially if one is a druid you might be in luck!

Renux Herkanor is a reasonably often killed epic fight for rogues, and Trochilic's Skean drops every time. Send a tell to the high levels asking whether they are doing the Renux fight and whether you could come loot the weapon. It has a reasonable ratio for levels 13-45 and an excellent aggro proc 46+.

Similarly, if you see a bunch of high levels in Kithicor Forest ask them whether anyone has claimed https://wiki.project1999.com/Scimitar_of_the_Ykesha . This item isn't quite as good, but drops reasonably frequently there too (also for what is ostensibly a rogue epic fight). These weapons will get you by until you can get a Frostbringer and / or Infestation.

I used both of those weps pre velious lol. Dark elf yak wep + torq. Was great agro but omg my dps was awful then rofl

[Troxx]

Skean had a fantastic aggro proc despite poor ratio. It was a good choice until the change as the 1 poison counter (somewhere around 300 hate per counter) and spinstun aggro component stacked.

Now unfortunately it’s a flat 405 threat from effects plus DD.

Sadly, it like so many other weapons (VPs, infestation, WESS etc) are shadows of their former selves. Infestation used to be ~900 from poison counters alone … no longer. WESS was even more insane with ~1200 from poison counters + debuff + blind. Now it’s a flat 400.

These days you just look for any weapon that gets you to that 400 threat and then filter by weapon ratio to find your best option.

[Toxigen]

also while grouping root is a thing

haste > ratio > procs > hp/ac

[zelld52]

I also think for warrior leveling, DPS is the best aggro. I’d prefer my 20-45 tank had a staff of battle rather than some low damage proc weapon. 45+ then you can get some aggro wepa

[Stonewallx39]

Staff of battle all day every day (leveling up). I still bust mine out on occasions at 59. Though my 1 handers are better dps and aggro at this point.

[Kich867]

Staff of battle all day every day (leveling up). I still bust mine out on occasions at 59. Though my 1 handers are better dps and aggro at this point.

About how much does a Staff of Battle cost?

[Toxigen]

About how much does a Staff of Battle cost?

like 200 plat its seriously the best bang-for-buck item in the game right there with SCHW (22% haste) for 300 plat

drops off sebilite protector in trak lair...so killed lots on trak pops and jugg farm groups

i gave all mine away already otherwise id just log in for the first time in months and hand you one

[PatChapp]

If your on green it's around 750-850pp, but still a best value item