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KayandBill
08-22-2022, 04:36 PM
This will more than likely draw out more troll posts then beneficial.
Why do the admin seem to rather cultivate a space for racist behavior, then try to remove it when it is petitioned.
First petition was of Treign(Iksar Monk) from the guild Deus posting a anti-semetic symbol used during WWII. It was petitioned with screen shots, and log files. That toon is still playing regularly.
Second petition was for the name Jooh Dirtyrat a Bard. Again a name that is undeniable anti-semetic.
Is this really the community that they want to have and condone? Silence is guilt.
Smoofers
08-22-2022, 05:39 PM
I'm in
unsunghero
08-22-2022, 05:50 PM
This will more than likely draw out more troll posts then beneficial.
Why do the admin seem to rather cultivate a space for racist behavior, then try to remove it when it is petitioned.
First petition was of Treign(Iksar Monk) from the guild Deus posting a anti-semetic symbol used during WWII. It was petitioned with screen shots, and log files. That toon is still playing regularly.
Second petition was for the name Jooh Dirtyrat a Bard. Again a name that is undeniable anti-semetic.
Is this really the community that they want to have and condone? Silence is guilt.
Fairly certain Jewish people are not a race. Know who else thought they were? Hitler
Also kinda weird how you try to avoid typing the word swastika. Is it because you think that typing or saying it will summon Hitler like he’s Voldemort?
Reiwa
08-22-2022, 05:57 PM
Joo want axe? (https://worldofwarcraft.fandom.com/et/wiki/Quotes_of_Warcraft_II#Troll_Axethrower/Berserker)
ArbiterBlixen
08-22-2022, 06:07 PM
Jooh Dirtyrat isn’t racist. Hope this helps.
Elizondo
08-22-2022, 06:28 PM
Second petition was for the name Jooh Dirtyrat a Bard. Again a name that is undeniable anti-semetic.
This is in reference to a line delivered by James Cagney from the film Taxi (1932)
Hope that helps
Strifer
08-22-2022, 07:01 PM
First one idk. Second one is a stretch as pointed out above.
Pretty sure that one guild holocaust did the swastika thing and people got banned as a last straw type shit on Red from what I remember.
Strifer
08-22-2022, 07:06 PM
Oh I forgot, fun story to add.
I remember back in the day during Velious on live when I was in middle school, I remember one of my classmates a few grades above me got his account suspended for doing the whole "oh man lemme try your gear on my character" scam, and told the GM who sent him a tell to go and "Stick a crucifix up your cunt". No ban I was shocked.
Rager and Quitter
08-22-2022, 07:34 PM
This will more than likely draw out more troll posts then beneficial.
Let me know when you find some actual racism. You ultra-soft, triple-ply toilet paper using bleeding hearts are trying to create enemies where they don't exist.
You need to grow some thicker skin. Racism exists and actual racists are generally part of the lowest educational echelon of society.
Fight it with seething hatred and soul-crushingly violent anger.
Ravager
08-22-2022, 07:40 PM
Intent is a big part of what makes it offensive. There's no innocent intentions with these examples and I side with OP.
You say grow a thicker skin? I say grow up.
Chortles Snortles
08-22-2022, 07:43 PM
anti memetic thread
Reiwa
08-22-2022, 07:48 PM
Intent is a big part of what makes it offensive. There's no innocent intentions with these examples and I side with OP.
You say grow a thicker skin? I say grow up.
From the writings of Jibartik Germanicus:
DaPBhxXhprg
Intent is a big part of what makes it offensive. There's no innocent intentions with these examples and I side with OP.
You say grow a thicker skin? I say grow up.
Or! You and OP can just ignore these people instead of trying to play the morality police. Sorry these guys don’t see the world exactly the way that you do. Better go get the authority’s to punish them! Your responses are equally as offensive and just further exasperate a problem that never really existed until you chose to make it one.
Live and let live
Rager and Quitter
08-22-2022, 09:01 PM
Intent is a big part I say grow up.
Growing up is developing thicker skin against obvious trolls, so thanks for agreeing with me.
I also love people like you that think you can glean all people's intent like magic. I bet you have a whole list of items you consider hate speech.
Mblake1981
08-22-2022, 09:08 PM
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Ash Williams
08-22-2022, 09:42 PM
Op, grow a pair. Alternatively, continue crying about the meany waycists while the world burns down around you.
Sincerely,
Every sane person on earth
Bergo
08-22-2022, 09:42 PM
Second petition was for the name Jooh Dirtyrat a Bard. Again a name that is undeniable anti-semetic.
If you think the name "dirty rat" is anti-semetic on its own and without context then I got news for you buddy...
You're the racist
Bardp1999
08-22-2022, 11:56 PM
(((get fucked OP)))
Bardp1999
08-22-2022, 11:59 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
Reiwa
08-23-2022, 12:02 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
Teppler content
unsunghero
08-23-2022, 12:05 AM
Or! You and OP can just ignore these people instead of trying to play the morality police. Sorry these guys don’t see the world exactly the way that you do.
I’ll play a little devil’s advocate because I used to think this as well. I think the offended people know they can use ignore but it’s not only about censorship, they want punishment. A ban is punishment
While I don’t like cancel culture I do respect the effectiveness of negative reinforcement to change behaviors, assuming that is the most effective way
Jibartik
08-23-2022, 01:56 AM
Would you rather play on a server full of Karen’s or a server full of racists?
Just wondering.
Dizzasster
08-23-2022, 07:39 AM
Would the name: Niger Spearchucker be offensive? The first is a country and the last is an activity.
Mblake1981
08-23-2022, 08:59 AM
bpOO2prNrLE
Toxigen
08-23-2022, 09:46 AM
imagine being offended by words
Strifer
08-23-2022, 09:56 AM
I’ll play a little devil’s advocate because I used to think this as well. I think the offended people know they can use ignore but it’s not only about censorship, they want punishment. A ban is punishment
While I don’t like cancel culture I do respect the effectiveness of negative reinforcement to change behaviors, assuming that is the most effective way
It's a balance and intent, along with the reinforcement of the staff. While I don't agree in whole with how naming policies are here in changing harmless or silly things, yeah if someone is named Bodybaggs Forotherraces (an example of a name I've seen back when I fucked around other EQEMU servers), I'm gonna think yeah....that warrants it.
You can be offended at anything you want, report it all you want, but if it's a stretch or silly people are gonna mock it or ignore it. If that happens often, maybe do some self reflection, same if all your edgy names keep getting changed.
Ratchet51
08-23-2022, 10:29 AM
Would the name: Niger Spearchucker be offensive? The first is a country and the last is an activity.
That name doesn't offend me at all
magnetaress
08-23-2022, 10:40 AM
OPs forumhandal is racist AF and very white-centric (and sexist because they are the same thing).
Croco
08-23-2022, 11:12 AM
imagine being offended by words
said the racist piece of shit
Chortles Snortles
08-23-2022, 12:00 PM
erudite lover
zelld52
08-23-2022, 01:25 PM
imagine being offended by words
imagine being edgy and trying to offend someone with words in a video game
zelld52
08-23-2022, 01:27 PM
this game is 23 years old and the majority of no-lifers here that play 10 hours a day are doing so because their real lives are shit. they lack actual human interaction, and try to get a rise out of people with edgy names.
safe space had a toon in their guild named "Jansix" enough petitions caused the GMs to change his name.
you could say, "it was just a joke" but this asshat also use to try to prove his edginess in guild discord voice by saying racist jokes during raids.
i muted him, ignored him and havent had to deal with his ass since. OP can try the same. when it moves to actual harassment, then get the (volunteer) staff involved
Chortles Snortles
08-23-2022, 01:35 PM
that’ll teAch em
(lol)
zelld52
08-23-2022, 01:39 PM
that’ll teAch em
(lol)
thats the thing is OP wont get anyone to change their ways or impact any change on anyone elses life or playstyle.
but there is always the option of /ignore, discord mute, etc.. then you can pretend like they dont even exist
Allishia
08-23-2022, 01:47 PM
thats the thing is OP wont get anyone to change their ways or impact any change on anyone elses life or playstyle.
but there is always the option of /ignore, discord mute, etc.. then you can pretend like they dont even exist
Yes just ignore them and have fun playing the game, what goes around comes around anyway /nod
Chortles Snortles
08-23-2022, 01:55 PM
Reddit 1999
Arvan
08-23-2022, 02:29 PM
Lots of coping going on in here
Mblake1981
08-23-2022, 02:36 PM
u2TTM8Qox3E
Ravager
08-23-2022, 05:40 PM
Growing up is developing thicker skin against obvious trolls, so thanks for agreeing with me.
I also love people like you that think you can glean all people's intent like magic. I bet you have a whole list of items you consider hate speech.
"Jooh Dirtyrat" -- don't need to glean much to understand intent there. I can't say what the guy is going for exactly, but it sure ain't wholesome inclusive fun.
Also, growing up is learning to play nice with others in public. Sometimes you just gotta keep the off-color jokes to your own in-group.
If you think it's unoffensive, wear a shirt that says "Jooh Dirtyrat" in public and see if people find that clever and appropriate.
Chortles Snortles
08-23-2022, 05:55 PM
Jooh are a gigantic flame agate
hope this helps
Ravager
08-23-2022, 06:40 PM
Well, at least I'm not some dipshit defending bigots.
Rager and Quitter
08-23-2022, 07:48 PM
Well, at least I'm not some dipshit defending bigots.
Life must be tough when you're such a sensitive little bitch lol. Purple or blue hair?
Mblake1981
08-23-2022, 09:55 PM
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Toxigen
08-23-2022, 10:39 PM
said the racist piece of shit
found the cuck
Chortles Snortles
08-23-2022, 11:01 PM
“we have a erudite problem”
unsunghero
08-23-2022, 11:13 PM
What I never understood is being offended on behalf of other people. If a Jewish person is offended by a anti-semitic name (even though that’s not what this was), fine fair enough. I could even understand someone coming to a dev and saying “hey I’m worried that a Jewish person might be offended by this” as some kind of a warning
But to say you’re offended by something that doesn’t even apply to you is just…unhealthy IMO. It’s taking on extra stress you don’t need
Chortles Snortles
08-23-2022, 11:14 PM
welp, it looks like you just committed a hate crime
hope you’re happy
Praxcthius
08-23-2022, 11:14 PM
Jooh or youuuuooouu dirty rat is from an old movie. Most if not all of us were not born yet when that movie released. Learn before taking offense. It’s not racist. There are no racists. Only pigmentists. All humans can procreate with anyone of different skin color. Human is the race. Maybe the Boston marathon. That’s a race. Or 24 hours of Daytona. Or the three legged race at the company picnic or the etc etc.
Klazdaxthun
Reiwa
08-23-2022, 11:44 PM
Joohs
Ius or Jus? Same thing different monkey noise.
INRI :)
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 12:02 AM
"There are no dirty words, only dirty minds." No one here who's been trying to get a rise out of people has the comedic chops of Lenny Bruce though, so this is as good as it gets for them. The internet has no shortage of tough guys.
Arvan
08-24-2022, 01:00 AM
“Bigotry is funny”
-p99 rnf forum
Reiwa
08-24-2022, 01:04 AM
“Bigotry is funny”
-p99 rnf forum
Sanctimonious person (https://www.etymonline.com/word/bigot)
Chortles Snortles
08-24-2022, 01:53 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HF7zr9W.png
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 03:35 AM
Sanctimonious person (https://www.etymonline.com/word/bigot)
That's closer to actual medieval period speak though, Joan of Arc's and Shakespeare's time. Lots of our ordinary words today had more significance back then.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/occupy
Etymology
Search
occupy (v.)
mid-14c., occupien, "to take possession of and retain or keep," also "to take up space or room or time; employ (someone)," irregularly borrowed from Old French ocuper, occuper "occupy (a person or place), hold, seize" (13c.) or directly from Latin occupare "take over, seize, take into possession, possess, occupy," from ob "over" (see ob-) + intensive form of capere "to grasp, seize," from PIE root *kap- "to grasp."
The final syllable of the English word is difficult to explain, but it is as old as the record; perhaps it is from a modification made in Anglo-French. During 16c.-17c. the word was a common euphemism for "have sexual intercourse with" (a sense attested from early 15c.), which caused it to fall from polite usage.
"A captaine? Gods light these villaines wil make the word as odious as the word occupy, which was an excellent good worde before it was il sorted." [Doll Tearsheet in "2 Henry IV"]
During the same time occupant could mean "prostitute." Related: Occupied; occupying.
So to them, Occupy Wall Street would have been thought of as a different movement altogether. It's possible the double meaning was intentional, a more formal way of saying "fuck" Wall Street, but who knows. It's not hard for most here to interpret what the player in question was trying for though because it happens all too often here in one form or another. What can I get away with and for how long?
Jimjam
08-24-2022, 04:57 AM
Didn’t think this thread was gonna be worth it, but it pulled through!
‘Occupy’ racism!
Toxigen
08-24-2022, 05:53 AM
welp, it looks like you just committed a hate crime
hope you’re happy
lol
Grapeape
08-24-2022, 06:47 AM
What I never understood is being offended on behalf of other people. If a Jewish person is offended by a anti-semitic name (even though that’s not what this was), fine fair enough. I could even understand someone coming to a dev and saying “hey I’m worried that a Jewish person might be offended by this” as some kind of a warning
But to say you’re offended by something that doesn’t even apply to you is just…unhealthy IMO. It’s taking on extra stress you don’t need
imagine an alternative world where a person finds out that the name they chose could be perceived by someone as offensive and they offer to willingly change it out of an abundance of caution and empathy. Good. now go back to getting offended by people being offended on behalf of others.
Kohedron
08-24-2022, 07:43 AM
I was on board in theory until the last sentence. Fuck off with your soap box high and mighty virtue signaling
Rager and Quitter
08-24-2022, 08:23 AM
imagine an alternative world where a person finds out that the name they chose could be perceived by someone as offensive
I choose not to allow other people to dictate how I conduct my life based on the idea that someone, somewhere "might" be offended by something I say or do.
That's stupid.
At the same time when I find something offensive, I turn it off, or go somewhere else, or ignore the person or offensive thing and move on with my life. Starting a crusade to weed out all evil in the world based on your subjective sense of morality is fruitless and creates people that have no emotional or cognitive resilience. And unfortunate byproduct of freedom (especially that of speech) means that people will say (or do) things you don't like.
Ratchet51
08-24-2022, 08:38 AM
found the cuck
You are a racist piece of shit, but, like, in a good way, ya know?
Grapeape
08-24-2022, 10:08 AM
I choose not to allow other people to dictate how I conduct my life based on the idea that someone, somewhere "might" be offended by something I say or do.
That's stupid.
At the same time when I find something offensive, I turn it off, or go somewhere else, or ignore the person or offensive thing and move on with my life. Starting a crusade to weed out all evil in the world based on your subjective sense of morality is fruitless and creates people that have no emotional or cognitive resilience. And unfortunate byproduct of freedom (especially that of speech) means that people will say (or do) things you don't like.
"Oh hey, when i named it 'Jooh' i thought of it like 'you' not 'jew' but now that you point it out i can see where you might have come to that conclusion. sorry if it made you feel that way."
signed,
A normal person
Mblake1981
08-24-2022, 10:11 AM
https://i.imgur.com/AVZOvxv.gif
Rager and Quitter
08-24-2022, 12:21 PM
A "normal" person
"Oh hey, I named my character whatever I wanted and you took it the wrong way. That's on you. Don't try to push your delusional 'put down all the things I subjectively find offensive' outlook on me. Also, stop talking to me. Go be offended quietly somewhere else. Hope you get the meds you need soon."
Sincerely,
A normal person
Patrece
08-24-2022, 12:38 PM
This might come as a shock to you but its not their job to police people's living rooms and the rest of the entire internet
unsunghero
08-24-2022, 12:51 PM
imagine an alternative world where a person finds out that the name they chose could be perceived by someone as offensive
I don’t care enough about “could be” to change what I’m doing tbh
See you in hell I guess, jk I know you’re atheist
Jimjam
08-24-2022, 02:11 PM
"Oh hey, I named my character whatever I wanted and you took it the wrong way. That's on you. Don't try to push your delusional 'put down all the things I subjectively find offensive' outlook on me. Also, stop talking to me. Go be offended quietly somewhere else. Hope you get the meds you need soon."
Sincerely,
A normal person
RnQ
Lol. "Sorry" doesn't have to be an admission of fault or apology. Sometimes it can just be used as an empathetic reflection to show you acknowledge how you affected another person, even if you aren't feeling sympathetic.
Clearly you don't care about people being offended on behalf of others, which is fair enough. But I think you are just using that claim as a smokescreen to seem reasonable. Why? Because you also don't care about causing offence either. Which imho is also perfectly fair, but it does make you a bit of a cunt, lets be honest. I think you like that though. Big strongman image, can't be told what to do or think.
Sincerly,
Your mate,
Lord Jimmington of Jamly.
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 02:34 PM
This might come as a shock to you but its not their job to police people's living rooms and the rest of the entire internet
https://help.daybreakgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/EverQuest-Naming-Policy (https://help.daybreakgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/230628107-What-is-the-EverQuest-Naming-Policy-#:~:text=All%20naming%20options%20in%20EverQuest,2 .)
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17488
It's their choice what to police and when. The project amounts to a small fraction of the internet. And no one's showing up at your house over elf stuff, except maybe ryan and/or sean.
Rager and Quitter
08-24-2022, 02:39 PM
Jamly.
Lord Jimmington,
Honestly I'm arguing the principle, not my own personal actions. As an individual I am very pleasant in game, I'm kind and considerate, because that's the community I value in P99. My wife says I'm "overly considerate".
Like most people, things offend me too. Some stuff people say hurts because muh feelz, but the most I really ever say is "You're an asshole." and then I move about my day. Today, we have full blown crusades and cancel culture out to vehemently punish people for things they say, be it serious of comical, and I think that's a problem.
I value the freedom of speech greatly enough that I will support people's freedom of expression even when I find it vile or in the poorest of taste. As soon as you go down the path of limiting people's speech based on what you subjectively find offensive, I would speak up, and that's mostly all I'm saying.
I generally choose not to offend, but I still defend people's freedom to speak, even if we all can agree that those people are peices of shit, like racists.
Your Humble Peasant,
RnQ
Jimjam
08-24-2022, 03:06 PM
Goog post! You have my blessing.
Mblake1981
08-24-2022, 03:41 PM
RnQ
Lol. "Sorry" doesn't have to be an admission of fault or apology. Sometimes it can just be used as an empathetic reflection to show you acknowledge how you affected another person, even if you aren't feeling sympathetic.
This was traditionally when the GF/Wife would give the BJ then make a sammich.
Patrece
08-24-2022, 03:44 PM
https://help.daybreakgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/EverQuest-Naming-Policy (https://help.daybreakgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/230628107-What-is-the-EverQuest-Naming-Policy-#:~:text=All%20naming%20options%20in%20EverQuest,2 .)
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17488
It's their choice what to police and when. The project amounts to a small fraction of the internet. And no one's showing up at your house over elf stuff, except maybe ryan and/or sean.
Lemme help you out here.
Coming running to them with something you saw snipped from "some discord" and constantly appealing for bans then suggesting P99 supports this kind of behavior when you don't get your way is extremely mental. Learn where to draw the line between your personal political crusade which weaponizes bullshit like this, AND THE GAME.
Chortles Snortles
08-24-2022, 03:47 PM
https://i.imgur.com/P9y1C2s.png
trusken
08-24-2022, 03:51 PM
First one idk. Second one is a stretch as pointed out above.
Pretty sure that one guild holocaust did the swastika thing and people got banned as a last straw type shit on Red from what I remember.
That's odd I was in Holo and yeah alot of people cried but I don't recall there being an issue with us getting banned for our names .... people got banned but not for our guild tag nor char names .... pretty sure no one gives a flying fuxx on the game or this forum .... freedom of speech and all ya know .... besides how in God's name could reading Jooh or jew or anything " antisemitic " actually cause you any kind of injury? If it bothers you then I suggest you get thicker skin and grow the truck up . How do you deal with life ?
trusken
08-24-2022, 04:02 PM
"Jooh Dirtyrat" -- don't need to glean much to understand intent there. I can't say what the guy is going for exactly, but it sure ain't wholesome inclusive fun.
Also, growing up is learning to play nice with others in public. Sometimes you just gotta keep the off-color jokes to your own in-group.
If you think it's unoffensive, wear a shirt that says "Jooh Dirtyrat" in public and see if people find that clever and appropriate.
Stop crying it obviously stands for "you dirty rat " in an Italian accent or just because he couldn't make his name you .... and I would love a shirt that said that . I see nothing wrong with either version . But then again I would love a short with Jesus on a cross and it says Jooh wrong ! He has returned !
Toxigen
08-24-2022, 04:48 PM
You are a racist piece of shit, but, like, in a good way, ya know?
ya exactly
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 06:44 PM
Coming running to them with something you saw snipped from "some discord"
That was a separate incident which involved staff members by name, who were already in that discord, so they became involved without being pinged afaik.
and constantly appealing for bans then suggesting P99 supports this kind of behavior when you don't get your way is extremely mental.
Who said anything about bans? Also, who saying p99 supports this kind of behavior when history suggests the opposite? There's an unlimited number of accounts and character slots available. Invariably, a name or two is going to slip through the cracks over the years.
Learn where to draw the line between your personal political crusade
Official game rules should not be confused with political world views. It isn't political to link or copy/paste rules which show where the line is drawn.
which weaponizes bullshit like this, AND THE GAME.
The game is an MMO though and MMOs are dependent on maintaining a large enough population, esp ones as old and niche as ours. Antisocial behavior from a select few jeopardizes this (ex. red server). If someone else's actions reflect poorly on the server, it affects the rest of us. One antisocial player isn't worth more than the dozen or half dozen other social players who might otherwise log on. New players bolster the economy and allow for more groups to be formed, etc. It's in a server's best interest to discourage antisocial behavior and the rules, both classic and current, indicate as much.
Patrece
08-24-2022, 06:49 PM
80% of the red server was fine.
You struggle with separating games from your real world crusade, and every normal person here is sick of it.
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 07:22 PM
That's odd I was in Holo and yeah alot of people cried but I don't recall there being an issue with us getting banned for our names .... people got banned but not for our guild tag nor char names .... pretty sure no one gives a flying fuxx on the game or this forum
IIRC Holocaust got in trouble eventually after...
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189361&page=26
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can't believe people trying to defend these actions.
A picture of a corpses designed in the shape of a swastica with a bunch of characters that have <holocaust> above their head standing around it.
i mean.. just read that ^. whether it's a joke or not.. terrible for this server to be doing/posting shit like that.
not saying this because im overly sensitive.. im sayin it cuz its the troof.
And this is why we can't have nice things. Robin Williams died and some boob thought it was a great idea to corpse a bunch of similarly named characters all over Norrath. There might have been a tribute to Aradune at one point, similar to the Vanguard emulator, except for the fact that even more chuckleheads would have corpsed a bunch of characters with drug references in their names and what not.
freedom of speech and all ya know
https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html
But the players in question aren't writing books for public consumption, they are playing elf characters on a server owned and operated by people who generously let the public log on with the simple understanding that they need to abide by the rules.
besides how in God's name could reading Jooh or jew or anything " antisemitic " actually cause you any kind of injury? If it bothers you then I suggest you get thicker skin and grow the truck up . How do you deal with life ?
Actively trying to be offensive because lol is just as bad as eagerly waiting to be offended at every opportunity. That said, a person can be immune to offense/stoic and have basic standards/expectations for behavior. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 07:35 PM
80% of the red server was fine.
According to you, but overlooking that...
Red
Status:
Players: UP
32
80% of 32, so 25.6? That's still pretty generous.
You struggle with separating games
Blue Server Chat (25 Viewing)
General discussion related to Project 1999 Blue
from your real world crusade
Rants and Flames (19 Viewing)
Enter at your own risk.
and every normal person here is sick of it.
This is a 20 year old elf sim. No one here would be considered normal by the uninitiated, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Chortles Snortles
08-24-2022, 07:54 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ek6jgeF.png
Bardp1999
08-24-2022, 08:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7t6kP1b.jpg
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 08:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PmQzYig.gif
Patrece
08-24-2022, 09:47 PM
Red launched with 800 people, thousands passed through it playing there. 80% were fine.
You're a fucking idiot LOL.
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 10:12 PM
Red launched with 800 people
And yet now it can't reach 100 because...?
thousands passed through it playing there. 80% were fine with not sticking around.
Ftfy.
You're a fucking idiot LOL.
Tell me you play on red without telling me you play on red.
Patrece
08-24-2022, 10:27 PM
More things youre wrong about, lets add to the list.
- Because they need to launch a new one with a proper classic timeline
- People dont make 20 alts with ToV loots on that server, they geared up and left after the Velious timeline was up
- I do not play red
You definitely have that mind virus Elon Musk talks about. I've reviewed your agenda and dysfunctions.
Reiwa
08-24-2022, 10:52 PM
That's closer to actual medieval period speak though, Joan of Arc's and Shakespeare's time. Lots of our ordinary words today had more significance back then.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/occupy
Etymology
Search
occupy (v.)
mid-14c., occupien, "to take possession of and retain or keep," also "to take up space or room or time; employ (someone)," irregularly borrowed from Old French ocuper, occuper "occupy (a person or place), hold, seize" (13c.) or directly from Latin occupare "take over, seize, take into possession, possess, occupy," from ob "over" (see ob-) + intensive form of capere "to grasp, seize," from PIE root *kap- "to grasp."
The final syllable of the English word is difficult to explain, but it is as old as the record; perhaps it is from a modification made in Anglo-French. During 16c.-17c. the word was a common euphemism for "have sexual intercourse with" (a sense attested from early 15c.), which caused it to fall from polite usage.
"A captaine? Gods light these villaines wil make the word as odious as the word occupy, which was an excellent good worde before it was il sorted." [Doll Tearsheet in "2 Henry IV"]
During the same time occupant could mean "prostitute." Related: Occupied; occupying.
So to them, Occupy Wall Street would have been thought of as a different movement altogether. It's possible the double meaning was intentional, a more formal way of saying "fuck" Wall Street, but who knows. It's not hard for most here to interpret what the player in question was trying for though because it happens all too often here in one form or another. What can I get away with and for how long?
I'm real sorry about that, you're actually very nice (https://www.etymonline.com/word/nice).
nice (adj.)
late 13c., "foolish, ignorant, frivolous, senseless," from Old French nice (12c.) "careless, clumsy; weak; poor, needy; simple, stupid, silly, foolish," from Latin nescius "ignorant, unaware," literally "not-knowing," from ne- "not" (from PIE root *ne- "not") + stem of scire "to know" (see science). "The sense development has been extraordinary, even for an adj." [Weekley] -- from "timid, faint-hearted" (pre-1300); to "fussy, fastidious" (late 14c.); to "dainty, delicate" (c. 1400); to "precise, careful" (1500s, preserved in such terms as a nice distinction and nice and early); to "agreeable, delightful" (1769); to "kind, thoughtful" (1830).
In many examples from the 16th and 17th centuries it is difficult to say in what particular sense the writer intended it to be taken. [OED]
By 1926, it was pronounced "too great a favorite with the ladies, who have charmed out of it all its individuality and converted it into a mere diffuser of vague and mild agreeableness." [Fowler]
"I am sure," cried Catherine, "I did not mean to say anything wrong; but it is a nice book, and why should I not call it so?" "Very true," said Henry, "and this is a very nice day, and we are taking a very nice walk; and you are two very nice young ladies. Oh! It is a very nice word indeed! It does for everything." [Jane Austen, "Northanger Abbey," 1803]
For sense evolution, compare fond, innocent, lewd, also silly.
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 11:09 PM
More things youre wrong about, lets add to the list.
- Because they need to launch a new one with a proper classic timeline
Blue
Status: UP
Players: 700
- I do not play red
'twas a comment on your communication skills.
Elon Musk
inherited platinum pieces from Essence Emerald (https://wiki.project1999.com/Essence_Emerald)s.
You definitely have that mind virus ... I've reviewed your agenda and dysfunctions.
https://i.imgur.com/XwC0HCb.jpg
Ennewi
08-24-2022, 11:22 PM
I'm real sorry about that, you're actually very nice (https://www.etymonline.com/word/nice).
Play Ignorant and Unaware Policy doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
Reiwa
08-24-2022, 11:25 PM
Play Ignorant and Unaware Policy doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
CtVteemLin4
Stoneasaurus
08-25-2022, 06:00 AM
Holy shit, I love EQ, but you can tell who the incel biggots are here and it is so G D pathetic. Keyboard warriors, hating from their mom's basement. I've read to "grow up", and "ignore it". We did that with the Nazi's, remember? Then they took over half a continent and murdered millions of people. F biggots. Crawl back into your holes, hating others, while hating yourself, you shall pass in silence and anonymity like the cowards you are.
Toxigen
08-25-2022, 07:03 AM
Holy shit, I love EQ, but you can tell who the incel biggots are here and it is so G D pathetic. Keyboard warriors, hating from their mom's basement. I've read to "grow up", and "ignore it". We did that with the Nazi's, remember? Then they took over half a continent and murdered millions of people. F biggots. Crawl back into your holes, hating others, while hating yourself, you shall pass in silence and anonymity like the cowards you are.
ya ok bub
Rager and Quitter
08-25-2022, 09:35 AM
Holy shit, I love... incel biggots
Lol! The handful of actual racists that play P99 are going to take over a continent and murder millions. You heard it here first.
Ratchet51
08-25-2022, 09:38 AM
The actual racists that play p99 are the people that main high elves. Keep an eye on those unhinged, violent loons
Mblake1981
08-25-2022, 09:47 AM
Holy shit, I love EQ, but you can tell who the incel biggots are here and it is so G D pathetic. Keyboard warriors, hating from their mom's basement. I've read to "grow up", and "ignore it". We did that with the Nazi's, remember? Then they took over half a continent and murdered millions of people. F biggots. Crawl back into your holes, hating others, while hating yourself, you shall pass in silence and anonymity like the cowards you are.
Holy Shit, I love EQ, but you can tell who the post-2000 assholes are here and it is so GD pathetic. Smartphone warriors, hating with the parents cellphone plan. I've read to upvote, like and subscribe. We did that with Geocities, remember? Crawl back to Anglefire, hating on Compuserve, while hating on Prodigy, you shall pass in silence and anonymity like the Y2K bug you are.
Holy shit, I love EQ, but you can tell who the incel biggots are here and it is so G D pathetic. Keyboard warriors, hating from their mom's basement. I've read to "grow up", and "ignore it". We did that with the Nazi's, remember? Then they took over half a continent and murdered millions of people. F biggots. Crawl back into your holes, hating others, while hating yourself, you shall pass in silence and anonymity like the cowards you are.
Ignore it and grow up when it’s just words. When someone starts killing someone else, sure go ape shit Karen on them. Right now tho these people are simply speaking in ways that you don’t like and you want them to suffer or be punished for it. Right now you look more like a nazi than they do.
Chortles Snortles
08-25-2022, 11:23 AM
soy
Toxigen
08-25-2022, 11:49 AM
Ignore it and grow up when it’s just words. When someone starts killing someone else, sure go ape shit Karen on them. Right now tho these people are simply speaking in ways that you don’t like and you want them to suffer or be punished for it. Right now you look more like a nazi than they do.
parties flipped
https://i.imgur.com/hE0SRjw.jpg
Patrece
08-25-2022, 12:38 PM
The seething of the self loathers, this is all they have lol
Fammaden
08-25-2022, 01:53 PM
parties flipped
Those who died are justified
For wearing the badge
They're the chosen whites
You justify those that died
By wearing the badge
They're the chosen whites
Meme picks a song literally about racist cops killing people and then claims "the left" doesn't follow it anymore. K.
The real question is why is it tolerated to let off topic shitposts bleed into other forums now?
Toxigen
08-25-2022, 05:01 PM
Those who died are justified
For wearing the badge
They're the chosen whites
You justify those that died
By wearing the badge
They're the chosen whites
Meme picks a song literally about racist cops killing people and then claims "the left" doesn't follow it anymore. K.
The real question is why is it tolerated to let off topic shitposts bleed into other forums now?
i think you're due for your booster
Ravager
08-25-2022, 05:50 PM
Ignore it and grow up when it’s just words. When someone starts killing someone else, sure go ape shit Karen on them. Right now tho these people are simply speaking in ways that you don’t like and you want them to suffer or be punished for it. Right now you look more like a nazi than they do.
It always starts with words and apathy to those words. But it was just a peaceful tour of the Capitol after all I guess.
unsunghero
08-25-2022, 06:17 PM
The solution to not become stochastic terrorists is to make it illegal to say anything negative about anyone or any entity ever
I’d certainly welcome not being called a nazi or Hitler a few dozen times a day
Mblake1981
08-25-2022, 07:58 PM
Web 2.0 folks
Chortles Snortles
08-25-2022, 08:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/gHEAVgw.gif
Mblake1981
08-25-2022, 08:26 PM
This troll brought to you by Raid: Shadow Legends
Patrece
08-26-2022, 11:57 PM
The solution to not become stochastic terrorists is to make it illegal to say anything negative about anyone or any entity ever
I’d certainly welcome not being called a nazi or Hitler a few dozen times a day
It is a constant attempt to provoke the screw brains by yelling fire in a theater
Trainer34
09-01-2022, 02:23 PM
Let me know when you find some actual racism. You ultra-soft, triple-ply toilet paper using bleeding hearts are trying to create enemies where they don't exist.
You need to grow some thicker skin. Racism exists and actual racists are generally part of the lowest educational echelon of society.
Fight it with seething hatred and soul-crushingly violent anger.
You might be surprised to know that someone doesn't have to dress up in a white sheet and burn a cross to be a racist...
Trainer34
09-01-2022, 02:26 PM
Holy shit, I love EQ, but you can tell who the incel biggots are here and it is so G D pathetic. Keyboard warriors, hating from their mom's basement. I've read to "grow up", and "ignore it". We did that with the Nazi's, remember? Then they took over half a continent and murdered millions of people. F biggots. Crawl back into your holes, hating others, while hating yourself, you shall pass in silence and anonymity like the cowards you are.
The number of people i'm come across on p99 who are quasi-unemployed playing on some computer that they couldn't sell for $75 if they tried, with some kind of disease that amounts to "I was so fat and so lazy for so long that my body just gave up and now I'm dying", convinced that brown people are to blame for all their problems is astonishingly high.
Rager and Quitter
09-01-2022, 02:57 PM
You might be surprised to know that someone doesn't have to dress up in a white sheet and burn a cross to be a racist...
Please don't necro old, stupid threads. Thanks.
Ennewi
09-01-2022, 07:39 PM
actual racists are generally part of the lowest educational echelon of society.
https://gtwodtke.com/curriculum-vitae/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130811005342.htm
Date: August 11, 2013
Source: American Sociological Association (ASA)
Smart people are just as racist as their less intelligent peers -- they're just better at concealing their prejudice, according to a University of Michigan study.
...
Wodtke will present his findings at the 108th Annual Meeting of the American Sociological Association. The National Science Foundation and the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, part of the National Institutes of Health, supported his research.
He analyzed data on the racial attitudes of more than 20,000 white respondents from the nationally representative General Social Survey. He examined how their cognitive ability, as measured by a widely used test of verbal intelligence, was linked with their attitudes about African-Americans, and about different policies designed to redress racial segregation and discrimination.
...
According to Wodtke, the broader implication of this study is that racism and prejudice don't simply come about as a result of low mental capacities or deficiencies in socialization. Rather, they result from the need of dominant groups to legitimize and protect their privileged social position within an intergroup conflict over resources.
"More intelligent members of the dominant group are just better at legitimizing and protecting their privileged position than less intelligent members. In modern America, where blacks are mobilized to challenge racial inequality, this means that intelligent whites say—and may in fact truly believe—all the right things about racial equality in principle, but they just don’t actually do anything that would eliminate the privileges to which they have become accustomed.”
unsunghero
09-01-2022, 08:25 PM
“In modern America, where blacks are mobilized to challenge racial inequality”
Uhhh what? How? What the heck does this even mean? WE’RE MOBILIZING THE BLACKS TO TAKE OVER, BOYS. This sounds like some weird sort of race-war bait
I love the concept of “white fragility” as well. When you’re called a racist, if you agree then you’re a racist. If you deny it you’re demonstrating white fragility, and you’re also a racist. Fucking. Yay. Thanks for those options!
Not picking on Ennewi in particular those concepts just seem weird to me
Rager and Quitter
09-01-2022, 08:30 PM
Well I'll be damned. I guess we're fucked. All those people hiding their actual racism. I guess all whites really are racist.
Where do I send the check?
Rethalis
09-01-2022, 08:47 PM
“In modern America, where blacks are mobilized to challenge racial inequality”
Uhhh what? How? What the heck does this even mean? WE’RE MOBILIZING THE BLACKS TO TAKE OVER, BOYS. This sounds like some weird sort of race-war bait
I love the concept of “white fragility” as well. When you’re called a racist, if you agree then you’re a racist. If you deny it you’re demonstrating white fragility, and you’re also a racist. Fucking. Yay. Thanks for those options!
Not picking on Ennewi in particular those concepts just seem weird to me
Its nothing more than a money ploy that preys on white guilt. The "White redeemer" types like robin diangelo can give your company virtue signal plaques for money all the while the employee or reader feeling redeemed without learning a thing about themselves or racisim.
White fragility is legit the dumbest piece of writing I have ever read and funny enough she says in the book my "white fragility" prevented me from learning the deeper notions in the book.
18561
Reiwa
09-01-2022, 08:53 PM
Its nothing more than a money ploy that preys on white guilt. The "White redeemer" types like robin diangelo can give your company virtue signal plaques for money all the while the employee or reader feeling redeemed without learning a thing about themselves or racisim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simony
Rethalis
09-01-2022, 09:03 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simony
exactly
Its nothing more than a money ploy that preys on white guilt. The "White redeemer" types like robin diangelo can give your company virtue signal plaques for money all the while the employee or reader feeling redeemed without learning a thing about themselves or racisim.
White fragility is legit the dumbest piece of writing I have ever read and funny enough she says in the book my "white fragility" prevented me from learning the deeper notions in the book.
18561
And yet you gave $$ to this woman for writing this crappy book you hated to read through, my friend! :cool:
Cool and normal :cool:
Rethalis
09-01-2022, 09:43 PM
And yet you gave $$ to this woman for writing this crappy book you hated to read through, my friend! :cool:
Cool and normal :cool:
I want my money back.
Ennewi
09-01-2022, 10:55 PM
“In modern America, where blacks are mobilized to challenge racial inequality”
Uhhh what? How? What the heck does this even mean? WEÂ’RE MOBILIZING THE BLACKS TO TAKE OVER, BOYS.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Black-Panther-Party
https://www.britannica.com/event/American-civil-rights-movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Thurman
This sounds like some weird sort of race-war bait
Mobilization is an odd term because it sounds militaristic, but it's been used for decades now in reference to nonviolent protests.
Gandhi referred to this method of mass mobilization as satyagraha
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. April 15 Mobilization to End the War in Vietnam New York City Saturday, April 15, 1967
King and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) temporarily joined the coalition, attracting national publicity to Albany. Although the Albany Movement was successful in mobilizing massive protests during December 1961 and the following summer, it secured few concrete gains.
I love the concept of “white fragility” as well. When you’re called a racist, if you agree then you’re a racist. If you deny it you’re demonstrating white fragility, and you’re also a racist. Fucking. Yay. Thanks for those options!
The study would have benefited from the involvement of black respondents as well, along with other backgrounds from around the world, though that would have required coordination with other universities.
Ennewi
09-01-2022, 10:59 PM
Well I'll be damned. I guess we're fucked. All those people hiding their implicit bias. I guess all humans really are racist.
Ftfy.
unsunghero
09-01-2022, 11:22 PM
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Black-Panther-Party
https://www.britannica.com/event/American-civil-rights-movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Thurman
Mobilization is an odd term because it sounds militaristic, but it's been used for decades now in reference to nonviolent protests.
Yea I guess I got hung up on the term
Not sure if any of those protests would still be considered “modern America”. The only modern black equality protests I see are from BLM, and that’s for a very specific thing. But maybe I just don’t pay attention to the others because they’re not as big/well-known
I’m still over here trying to un-learn Martin Luther King’s desire to not judge by skin color, since apparently colorblindness is now considered another form of racism. I need to learn to stereotype up a guess at someone’s “lived experience” based on their skin color, while de-emphasizing the role their economic class status plays in that
So much to learn
Rager and Quitter
09-02-2022, 12:20 AM
Ftfy.
I'm not convinced that it's all bad. I live in Texas and I have met very, very few actual racists. I find more people are culturalists. If you've ever lived up in an inner city of a major metropolitan area (I grew up in DFW), you know that inner-city, ghetto culture is a huge problem and the black community, while a large part of that culture isn't the only group subject to those insidious values. They glorify violent crime and gang activity. They engage in using and selling drugs, disrespect women and authority, and act as if going to prison is a badge of honor.
I had a good friend growing up named Ralston whose mother was absolutely adamant that he do well in school (she even beat him a few times over it) and his black peers would berate him for doing well in school and "acting white". They even said he was my slave from time to time for being best friends with a "cracker" (I got jumped quite a few times during those years by groups of black or latino kids).
That violent, criminal culture is a problem and certainly isn't limited to just blacks. I knew plenty of ghetto whites and Mexicans, but the all shared those same values (if you can call them that).
People can try to blame whites all day, but those values come from within the culture. Young black men murder other young black men at rates alarmingly higher than any other group and no one seems to give a shit until some "racist, white, pig" kills a young black man under usually justified (but not always) circumstances.
Also, fuck BLM. What a garbage, corrupt movement. MLK would be ashamed.
Reiwa
09-02-2022, 12:29 AM
https://gtwodtke.com/curriculum-vitae/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130811005342.htm
Uncomfortable and inaccurate as it may be, equating sociology and socialism isn’t entirely off base. (https://contexts.org/articles/from-the-editors/)
unsunghero
09-02-2022, 12:36 AM
I think “stereotype” as a word has too negative a connotation, so I’ll use “assumption” instead
What I’ve been working on is trying to banish negative, non-useful assumptions about black people, and instead only consider positive assumptions that make the world a better place
For example, I’ve learned that, categorically, negative assumptions are ones that increase my perception of the agency black people have in their own lives. An example would be affirmative action and diversity focused hiring practices for the past more than a decade. Considering these I’ve realized is just jealousy, another form of white fragility
What I need to remember was what followed the “educate yourself, BIGOT” statement I read on Reddit years ago. It linked a college study that found examples where people didn’t hire fake candidates with African sounding names. Now I don’t remember how old this study was or the sample size, but a good or “positive” assumption based on college studies like these is that a black person is going to have a harder time getting a job than an equally skilled white person. And the only reason I don’t know of more studies like this is that I’m dumb and uneducated
Another example of a bad assumption is who I think is at fault for the state of a black person’s life. If I see a poor struggling black person, my original bad, unproductive assumption is that it is mostly due to the choices of their parent. Sorry, parents. That’s another assumption that needs to die. I instead tell myself “no, Unsung, assume that they had two loving parents that did their best and if not, the reason that didn’t happen is because their parents had a really hard life, because their parents did, and this all originates back to Jim Crow laws, housing discrimination, and slavery”
So as a guide to becoming less racist: good assumptions decrease the perception of black agency and point the fault at our country’s past. Bad assumptions increase black people’s agency and point the fault of shortcomings at our country’s present
Reiwa
09-02-2022, 12:51 AM
agency
So as a guide to becoming less racist: good assumptions decrease the perception of black agency and point the fault at our country’s past. Bad assumptions increase black people’s agency and point the fault of shortcomings at our country’s present
Would you prefer to be slapped in the face or on the ass? :mad:
unsunghero
09-02-2022, 12:53 AM
Would you prefer to be slapped in the face or on the ass? :mad:
By you? Both
Reiwa
09-02-2022, 12:55 AM
By you? Both
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GrayIncompleteAoudad-max-1mb.gif
Ennewi
09-02-2022, 12:59 AM
I’m still over here trying to un-learn Martin Luther King’s desire to not judge by skin color, since apparently colorblindness is now considered another form of racism. I need to learn to stereotype up a guess at someone’s “lived experience” based on their skin color, while de-emphasizing the role their economic class status plays in that
So much to learn
At least some of that is just certain edumacated people trying to posture themselves as the new authority on a topic because academic settings can make anyone with good test scores feel self-important. But then that gets into the bubbles people live in more than anything else.
Trying to superimpose guilt after the fact seems unproductive and ignores the fact that no one's family tree is full of saints. What is an appropriate amount of guilt to feel if one is Polish, French-Canadian, Australian, etc.? How many people belong entirely to what's considered a single race/ethnicity and which mix of backgrounds are still considered white, black, etc.? Many people aren't even entirely aware of those details. Supposedly Conan O'Brien is as Irish as it gets (and his wife is Irish, Scottish, and Welsch) but Irish immigrants weren't treated favorably in America for a number of reasons, Catholicism being one, and neither were Sicilians/Italians.
49hHKdmEj18
unsunghero
09-02-2022, 01:03 AM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GrayIncompleteAoudad-max-1mb.gif
When today’s tolerance and inclusion meeting is about what you said yesterday:
unsunghero
09-02-2022, 01:10 AM
At least some of that is just certain edumacated people trying to posture themselves as the new authority on a topic because academic settings can make anyone with good test scores feel self-important. But then that gets into the bubbles people live in more than anything else.
Trying to superimpose guilt after the fact seems unproductive and ignores the fact that no one's family tree is full of saints. What is an appropriate amount of guilt to feel if one is Polish, French-Canadian, Australian, etc.?
Yeah NGL I’m on the uneducated side and mostly living in a bubble of 4chan memes
That story from John Tururo is legit sad though :(
Reiwa
09-02-2022, 01:50 AM
Yeah NGL I’m on the uneducated side and mostly living in a bubble of 4chan memes
That story from John Tururo is legit sad though :(
The answer is none if you didn't do it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtVteemLin4)
Ennewi
09-02-2022, 03:49 AM
I'm not convinced that it's all bad.
Well, we were all infants at one point without much understanding of existence, so that counts as good or at least not inherently bad. But as adults, even if we consider ourselves to be good, reasonable, and law-abiding, there's that whole duality of man thing, the unconscious, and future unknowns.
If you've ever lived up in an inner city of a major metropolitan area (I grew up in DFW), you know that inner-city, ghetto culture is a huge problem and the black community, while a large part of that culture isn't the only group subject to those insidious values.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norrmalmstorg_robbery
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They glorify violent crime and gang activity. They engage in using and selling drugs, disrespect women and authority, and act as if going to prison is a badge of honor.
But the same could be said for other groups of people in the prison system and/or affiliated with gangs.
I had a good friend growing up named Ralston whose mother was absolutely adamant that he do well in school (she even beat him a few times over it) and his black peers would berate him for doing well in school and "acting white".
https://i.imgur.com/uo1InlZ.gif
https://i.imgur.com/LpsOZnR.gif
There are also instances where individuals aren't considered truly black or black enough within their own family/community due to having lighter skin tone.
That violent, criminal culture is a problem and certainly isn't limited to just blacks. I knew plenty of ghetto whites and Mexicans, but the all shared those same values (if you can call them that).
“Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed.” Michael Scott
Rager and Quitter
09-02-2022, 01:13 PM
[QUOTE=Ennewi;3500251]Well/QUOTE]
So if I was a poor ghetto black my opinion would be gospel? But because I'm white I'm guilty of implicit bias because even if I don't think I'm racist, I actually am racist regardless?
Patrece
09-02-2022, 01:16 PM
You cannot engage these people in honest discussions. Just point and laugh.
Toxigen
09-02-2022, 02:01 PM
I'm not convinced that it's all bad. I live in Texas and I have met very, very few actual racists. I find more people are culturalists. If you've ever lived up in an inner city of a major metropolitan area (I grew up in DFW), you know that inner-city, ghetto culture is a huge problem and the black community, while a large part of that culture isn't the only group subject to those insidious values. They glorify violent crime and gang activity. They engage in using and selling drugs, disrespect women and authority, and act as if going to prison is a badge of honor.
I had a good friend growing up named Ralston whose mother was absolutely adamant that he do well in school (she even beat him a few times over it) and his black peers would berate him for doing well in school and "acting white". They even said he was my slave from time to time for being best friends with a "cracker" (I got jumped quite a few times during those years by groups of black or latino kids).
That violent, criminal culture is a problem and certainly isn't limited to just blacks. I knew plenty of ghetto whites and Mexicans, but the all shared those same values (if you can call them that).
People can try to blame whites all day, but those values come from within the culture. Young black men murder other young black men at rates alarmingly higher than any other group and no one seems to give a shit until some "racist, white, pig" kills a young black man under usually justified (but not always) circumstances.
Also, fuck BLM. What a garbage, corrupt movement. MLK would be ashamed.
wow i said this exact same thing and got booted from 2 raiding guilds
just goes to show what a cucked sjw playground p99 has become
hobart
09-02-2022, 02:11 PM
wow i said this exact same thing and got booted from 2 raiding guilds
just goes to show what a cucked sjw playground p99 has become
Shit up guild chat with your retard politics and are surprised people hate you? Really?
How many guilds would you need to get kicked from to realize the problem is you? You're a under-educated redneck from Florida. People might be down to kill some dragons with you, but no one gives a fuck what you think about politics.
Allishia
09-02-2022, 02:18 PM
wow i said this exact same thing and got booted from 2 raiding guilds
just goes to show what a cucked sjw playground p99 has become
Careful, don't even quote things like that toxigen or people gonna get you :p.
Allishia
09-02-2022, 02:34 PM
Shit up guild chat with your retard politics and are surprised people hate you? Really?
How many guilds would you need to get kicked from to realize the problem is you? You're a under-educated redneck from Florida. People might be down to kill some dragons with you, but no one gives a fuck what you think about politics.
I don't even understand why people bring political things into a game like eq.
Keep the social justice warrior shit in real life and out of eq ! Dragons n giants only please, no one cares if you think you're a cat in real life or you hate democrats republicans a specific race or whatever lol.
Dragons! Get the dragons!! :mad:
Ripqozko
09-02-2022, 02:51 PM
I don't even understand why people bring political things into a game like eq.
Keep the social justice warrior shit in real life and out of eq ! Dragons n giants only please, no one cares if you think you're a cat in real life or you hate democrats republicans a specific race or whatever lol.
Dragons! Get the dragons!! :mad:
Relax Toxigen
Allishia
09-02-2022, 03:07 PM
Relax Toxigen
Lol shhhh you!
Freakish
09-02-2022, 03:20 PM
I am a cat irl and my pronouns are %t %r %o.
Toxigen
09-02-2022, 04:00 PM
Shit up guild chat with your retard politics and are surprised people hate you? Really?
How many guilds would you need to get kicked from to realize the problem is you? You're a under-educated redneck from Florida. People might be down to kill some dragons with you, but no one gives a fuck what you think about politics.
Was never done in guild chat, try again soyboy fuckwad.
Horza
09-02-2022, 04:14 PM
Relax Toxigen
That will never, ever happen.
hobart
09-02-2022, 04:39 PM
Was never done in guild chat, try again soyboy fuckwad.
So what form of communications were you such a repugnant piece of shit in that you're not welcome in two P99 guilds?
unsunghero
09-02-2022, 08:45 PM
you hate democrats republicans a specific race or whatever lol.
Easy for you to say. Maybe you haven’t lived your entire life with your race hated on by popular culture
I’ve always preferred half-marathons, and no one wants to hear about it. They’re like “do a full marathon or STFU, a half marathon isn’t an accomplishment”
It’s all going into my manifesto
hobart
09-03-2022, 01:22 AM
Easy for you to say. Maybe you haven’t lived your entire life with your race hated on by popular culture
I’ve always preferred half-marathons, and no one wants to hear about it. They’re like “do a full marathon or STFU, a half marathon isn’t an accomplishment”
It’s all going into my manifesto
Neither have you. Twitter isn't real.
unsunghero
09-03-2022, 02:21 AM
Neither have you. Twitter isn't real.
https://i.ibb.co/DpVjTxs/21805413-2-FE7-401-E-A6-C5-EF4-E17-BD0224.gif (https://imgbb.com/)
Rager and Quitter
09-03-2022, 03:18 AM
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Half-marathon races matter too bro. Let's burn down a store owned by other runners.
Barnes
09-03-2022, 05:00 AM
This will more than likely draw out more troll posts then beneficial.
Why do the admin seem to rather cultivate a space for racist behavior, then try to remove it when it is petitioned.
First petition was of Treign(Iksar Monk) from the guild Deus posting a anti-semetic symbol used during WWII. It was petitioned with screen shots, and log files. That toon is still playing regularly.
Second petition was for the name Jooh Dirtyrat a Bard. Again a name that is undeniable anti-semetic.
Is this really the community that they want to have and condone? Silence is guilt.
This clown needs help. glad some people tried to help him here.
Barnes
09-03-2022, 05:07 AM
This will more than likely draw out more troll posts then beneficial.
Why do the admin seem to rather cultivate a space for racist behavior, then try to remove it when it is petitioned.
First petition was of Treign(Iksar Monk) from the guild Deus posting a anti-semetic symbol used during WWII. It was petitioned with screen shots, and log files. That toon is still playing regularly.
Second petition was for the name Jooh Dirtyrat a Bard. Again a name that is undeniable anti-semetic.
Is this really the community that they want to have and condone? Silence is guilt.
Look Clown face (honk honk) This is the internet, not real life. Learn how to interact with REAL people (face to face) then maybe you can have some kind of normalcy to your internet life. Watch the documentary on netflix called "the most hated man on the internet" should give you some perspective on how insane the internet can be. So my closing statement is, GET A GRIP.
cd288
09-03-2022, 10:57 AM
Shit up guild chat with your retard politics and are surprised people hate you? Really?
How many guilds would you need to get kicked from to realize the problem is you? You're a under-educated redneck from Florida. People might be down to kill some dragons with you, but no one gives a fuck what you think about politics.
Could probably send his forum posts to his current non raiding guild and get him kicked from there too lol
Encroaching Death
09-09-2022, 02:15 PM
Silence is guilt.
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Thomacles
09-09-2022, 02:57 PM
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GUILTY!!!
Encroaching Death
09-09-2022, 03:13 PM
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Terrok
09-09-2022, 03:29 PM
You would think after being the creator of the top guild on the server for over a year, that detox wouldn’t be so quick to anger and yell at the people who have been carrying him for over a year. I guess people who are unhappy in real life are unhappy in eq. But for all the vanq people who have given up so much to make vanq great, to be treated like that and expected to log in again on the next target. Sure if it was just once, it happens, but really, playing any game to get yelled at… talk to someone in real life and seek help. You deserve better. Detoxx alone has hurt vanq raid attendance more than anything else. 10 years of making people quit and still chugging along… Good Job detox, you are the best at that. Please never stop.
He only does it because he loves pixels... i mean you.. yet other guilds leaders dont act like this or treat people this way, so staying there, guess you are getting what you need.
Daldolma
09-10-2022, 02:23 AM
Look Clown face (honk honk) This is the internet, not real life. Learn how to interact with REAL people (face to face) then maybe you can have some kind of normalcy to your internet life. Watch the documentary on netflix called "the most hated man on the internet" should give you some perspective on how insane the internet can be. So my closing statement is, GET A GRIP.
Sir you responded twice in a row to the same message on a 20 year old elf simulation forum.
Patrece
09-10-2022, 10:17 PM
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Reiwa
09-10-2022, 10:50 PM
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