Biden Bails Out Losers With Worthless College Degrees

[Elizondo]

lol even the few Dims left that aren't total Deadbeat Losers are trashing this desperate vote bribe scheme by Brandon

Pete robbin from the poor to fill the pockets of his rich donors in Academia. What a scam lol

[peterpal]

Whitehouse twitter exposing GOP hypocrits (https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1562916200866267138)

[peterpal]

lol even the few Dims left that aren't total Deadbeat Losers are trashing this desperate vote bribe scheme by Brandon

Pete robbin from the poor to fill the pockets of his rich donors in Academia. What a scam lol

Making policies for people isn't bribing it's called doing their job

[Elizondo]

Making policies for people isn't bribing it's called doing their job

What Policy?

Congress vote on this?

[Botten]

Ha HA ha
Republicans complaining the tax payers money is being invested into the people vs

1.9 Trillion tax cut which served to benefit no one except the ultra rich

Not to mention the Republican Members of Congress Whose PPP Loans were Forgiven

Matt Gaetz (R-FL): $476,000
Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA): $180,000
Greg Pence (R-IN): $79,441
Vern Buchanan (R-FL): $2.8 Million
Keven Hern (R-OK): $1.07 Million
Roger Williams (R-TX): $1.43 Million
Brett Guthrie (R-KY): $4.3 Million
Ralph Norman (R-SC): $306,520
Ralph Abraham (R-LA): $38,000
Mike Kelly (R-PA): $974,100
Vicki Hartzler (R-MO): $451,200
Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) $988,700
Carol Miller (R-WV) $3.1 Millon

Republicans have NO moral argument saying we can't bail out those 90% making under $75,000 a year by the tune of $20K

Who are you Republicans fooling other than only your brainwashed selves.

[Reiwa]

University costs are exorbitant and needlessly inflated

But if the federal govt is backing loans I don’t see why they shouldn’t provide it at 0% interest at least for tax paying citizens. For those of us that start paying after we land jobs.

As I pointed out I’ve already payed over 110k ok a 70k loan but still owe 30k? Fuck the taxpayer I have already paid off my debt +40k and still owe nearly as much.

Thankfully my wife is a teacher earning pennies on the dollar so we fall just below the 250k threshold. So my debt is now 20k not 30k. Tax payers have already got a lot more out of me than invested.

Federal student loans should not aim to make money.

It’s an investment in our communal future. Make it 0% interest. We all profit when people make their lives better (hi to you income tax!)

You went to college and still have no idea why loans have interest.

[unsunghero]

This forum is really … really far separated from the the US electorate. Bunch of angsty white men involuntarily celibate.

I was a republican … no longer. The right went so far right it is obscene.

#middleLeft

I was a Republican….still am

Had sex this past weekend

Have my own 450k house, 45k 2021 truck, and full time job

Grats on your life choices too though. Looks like by your list of chars you’ve played far more P99 than me

The left went batshit crazy

[Elizondo]

Ha HA ha
Republicans complaining the taxer's money is being invested into the people vs

1.9 Trillion tax cut which served to benefit no one except the ultra rich

Not to mention the Republican Members of Congress Whose PPP Loans were Forgiven

Matt Gaetz (R-FL): $476,000
Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA): $180,000
Greg Pence (R-IN): $79,441
Vern Buchanan (R-FL): $2.8 Million
Keven Hern (R-OK): $1.07 Million
Roger Williams (R-TX): $1.43 Million
Brett Guthrie (R-KY): $4.3 Million
Ralph Norman (R-SC): $306,520
Ralph Abraham (R-LA): $38,000
Mike Kelly (R-PA): $974,100
Vicki Hartzler (R-MO): $451,200
Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) $988,700
Carol Miller (R-WV) $3.1 Millon

Republicans have NO moral argument saying we can't bail out those 90% making under $75,000 a year by the tune of $20K

Who are you Republicans fooling other than only your brainwashed selves.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/paul-pelosi-benefits-big-ppp-forgiveness

Paul Pelosi benefits big with PPP forgiveness, company won't repay millions

Paul Pelosi, the husband to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), is linked to a company that saw millions in loans forgiven through the Paycheck Protection Program.

The Paycheck Protection Program was a national mainstay at the height of the pandemic to help small businesses make their way through a marred economy and retain employees.

lol dude

The Economy was shut down and PPP loans were meant to be forgiven by design to keep businesses open and people employed. Agree or disagree with it. Fine. But it was passed by both parties in Congress by wide margins

Congress vote on this Brandon vote bribe scheme? Feel free to link me the source that proves that

[Jibartik]

Ha HA ha
Republicans complaining the tax payers money is being invested into the people vs

1.9 Trillion tax cut which served to benefit no one except the ultra rich

Not to mention the Republican Members of Congress Whose PPP Loans were Forgiven

Matt Gaetz (R-FL): $476,000
Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA): $180,000
Greg Pence (R-IN): $79,441
Vern Buchanan (R-FL): $2.8 Million
Keven Hern (R-OK): $1.07 Million
Roger Williams (R-TX): $1.43 Million
Brett Guthrie (R-KY): $4.3 Million
Ralph Norman (R-SC): $306,520
Ralph Abraham (R-LA): $38,000
Mike Kelly (R-PA): $974,100
Vicki Hartzler (R-MO): $451,200
Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) $988,700
Carol Miller (R-WV) $3.1 Millon

Republicans have NO moral argument saying we can't bail out those 90% making under $75,000 a year by the tune of $20K

Who are you Republicans fooling other than only your brainwashed selves.

This is a weird argument because it's like saying:

"haha look at all these reasons we should dismantle the goverment!"

"now I will use them as a reason we should have BIGGER goverment!"

[Kaveh]

This forum is really … really far separated from the the US electorate. Bunch of angsty white men involuntarily celibate.

I was a republican … no longer. The right went so far right it is obscene.

#middleLeft

College is expensive and we’re not making it more affordable with this. I voted for Joe Biden and am not white

Hope this helps

[Jibartik]

This forum is really … really far separated from the the US electorate. Bunch of angsty white men involuntarily celibate.

I was a republican … no longer. The right went so far right it is obscene.

#middleLeft

YO fuck the us electorate in the face!

#deathToAmerica

[Kaveh]

Ha HA ha
Republicans complaining the tax payers money is being invested into the people vs

1.9 Trillion tax cut which served to benefit no one except the ultra rich

Not to mention the Republican Members of Congress Whose PPP Loans were Forgiven

Matt Gaetz (R-FL): $476,000
Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA): $180,000
Greg Pence (R-IN): $79,441
Vern Buchanan (R-FL): $2.8 Million
Keven Hern (R-OK): $1.07 Million
Roger Williams (R-TX): $1.43 Million
Brett Guthrie (R-KY): $4.3 Million
Ralph Norman (R-SC): $306,520
Ralph Abraham (R-LA): $38,000
Mike Kelly (R-PA): $974,100
Vicki Hartzler (R-MO): $451,200
Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) $988,700
Carol Miller (R-WV) $3.1 Millon

Republicans have NO moral argument saying we can't bail out those 90% making under $75,000 a year by the tune of $20K

Who are you Republicans fooling other than only your brainwashed selves.

Let’s crucify everyone who takes a penny undeservedly

That includes college administrators siphoning education dollars away from professors and students

[Kaveh]

I was a Republican….still am

Had sex this past weekend

Have my own 450k house, 45k 2021 truck, and full time job

Grats on your life choices too though. Looks like by your list of chars you’ve played far more P99 than me

The left went batshit crazy

Get married and have minimum three well adjusted children and of course, never get divorced

Otherwise you’re a commie whose existence is detrimental to SPQA

[Jibartik]

Let’s crucify everyone who takes a penny

http://imgur.com/jvWmS4q.jpg

[peterpal]

This forum is really … really far separated from the the US electorate. Bunch of angsty white men involuntarily celibate.

I was a republican … no longer. The right went so far right it is obscene.

#middleLeft

I just open the off topic forum for entertainment and laugh at the outlandish opinions.
Whenever I think Americans can't be really this stupid this forum keeps proving me wrong.

[Jibartik]

Still the boss of your country.

[Botten]

Congress vote on this Brandon vote bribe scheme? Feel free to link me the source that proves that

President Biden doesn’t need congress to forgive loans.

What did Trump University do oh right stole from student and had to settle in court over it.

Yeah GOP politicians are horrible.

And Jib your analogies are worse than your bipolar disorder. Take your lithium.

[Reiwa]

President Biden doesn’t need congress to forgive loans.

What did Trump University do oh right stole from student and had to settle in court over it.

Yeah GOP politicians are horrible.

And Jib your analogies are worse than your bipolar disorder. Take your lithium.

It's spending so yes he does? Congress holds the purse, President holds the sword.

[Elizondo]

https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2022/8/23/forgiving-student-loans

August 23, 2022 Forgiving Student Loans: Budgetary Costs and Distributional Impact

Between 69 and 73 percent of the debt forgiven accrues to households in the top 60 percent of the income distribution.

18495

[Reiwa]

https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2022/8/23/forgiving-student-loans



18495

Adjust for taxpayers.

[Elizondo]

President Biden doesn’t need congress to forgive loans

Deadbeat Botten failing so badly in this thread

b6HsT_TUvkU

[unsunghero]

College is expensive and we’re not making it more affordable with this

Hope this helps

^
This does nothing to fix college tuition scam pricing. Just seems like a vote grab attempt to me

And fuck the blue collar working class I guess, they get nothing but hey, they didn’t vote for Joe Biden

[Botten]

Deadbeat Botten failing so badly in this thread


Now echo chambering himself. Sad.

[Troxx]

This forum is funny

Lots of whit male maladjusted angst

#sad

https://c.tenor.com/GZXCYM6soSAAAAAC/so-sad-oh-no.gif

Oh man … the pumpkin in chief bath spoketh!

[Rethalis]

This forum is funny

Lots of whit male maladjusted angst

#sad

https://c.tenor.com/GZXCYM6soSAAAAAC/so-sad-oh-no.gif

Oh man … the pumpkin in chief bath spoketh!

its true white people complain the most about everything. They are the karens on the melatonin scale.

[Jibartik]

weird to be so hung up on race.

[Jibartik]

Deadbeat Botten failing so badly in this thread

b6HsT_TUvkU

lol

[unsunghero]

This forum is funny

Lots of whit male maladjusted angst

#sad

Oh man … the pumpkin in chief bath spoketh!

Nothing like a little casual racism can’t fix

You get your word of the day “maladjusted” from your kid’s emotional disability behavioral school? Maybe stop teaching him to hate his own race

[Rethalis]

weird to be so hung up on race.

its hip to dunk on white people because white people are supposed to be guilty for being white.

[Botten]

It's spending so yes he does? Congress holds the purse, President holds the sword.

Definitely up for debate. But in some complicated steps scholars have already argued the president can.

Congress, granted the Secretary of Education, who works for the president, the specific and unrestricted authority to create and to cancel or modify debt owed under federal student loan programs.

Essentially the president could collaborate with the U.S. Department of Education to stop collecting on people’s student loans.

[Kaveh]

We should really prioritize eliminating our debt and having a sovereign wealth fund for future economic crises / “rainy days”

Also picking winners and losers is dumb. We subsidize corn but Texas cattle ranchers are going broke and selling their herds. Steak is gonna be $100 a pound in a few years

Just a little anecdote of why I personally disagree with this policy. Still not white and still voted for Biden, God bless

[unsunghero]

its hip to dunk on white people because white people are supposed to be guilty for being white.

Hating white people

[Jibartik]

It's a strange tactic IMO to teach people to not be racist by teaching them that races can be categorized, and dunked on.

It's kind of like saying, "look I believe in racist stereotyping, but racism against X Y and Z is just not to be tolerated (even though it's clearly true as I believe in the concepts behind them: Racial stereotypes)."

But that said, im glad we're doing the social decay because death to america so keep it going! Just wanted to point it out.

[Kaveh]

I’d rather spend the money on retaking Constantinople and liberating Cyprus and Armenia personally

[Jibartik]

If i was president Id just sell all the oil reserves myself and then use the money to build schools and infrastructure and pay off all the debt and redo the entire health industry from the ground up with the money left over.

[unsunghero]

It's a strange tactic IMO to teach people to not be racist by teaching them that races can be categorized, and dunked on.

It's kind of like saying, "look I believe in racist stereotyping, but racism against X Y and Z is just not to be tolerated (even though it's clearly true as I believe in the concepts behind them: Racial stereotypes)."


Your class determines the ease/difficulty of your life 1000x more than your race does

Racial stereotypes exist for one purpose: to divide

[Kaveh]

And because they’re funny

I didn’t know Iran had Adobe architecture until mblake pointed it out

I lol’d

[Elizondo]

gVbCWTvUGdQ

[unsunghero]

And because they’re funny

I didn’t know Iran had Adobe architecture until mblake pointed it out

I lol’d

I have no problem with jokes against white people or any race, just try to make them actually funny

Or is that even still allowed? Are comedians allowed to make fun of particular races without getting Will Smith slapped?

I know words are violence now

Funny bit on white people

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nYngZLjWio

[Reiwa]

Definitely up for debate. But in some complicated steps scholars have already argued the president can.

Congress, granted the Secretary of Education, who works for the president, the specific and unrestricted authority to create and to cancel or modify debt owed under federal student loan programs.

Essentially the president could collaborate with the U.S. Department of Education to stop collecting on people’s student loans.

Ok no he can't despite whatever collusion you're endorsing, and also they did it under the authority of the 2003 HEROES Act which was explicitly for military services.

Doesn't it strike you as strange that Democrats would use a War of Terror law as pretext for their political agenda? Bush is a Nazi.

[Kaveh]

I have no problem with jokes against white people or any race, just try to make them actually funny

Or is that even still allowed? Are comedians allowed to make fun of particular races without getting Will Smith slapped?

I know words are violence now

Funny bit on white people

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nYngZLjWio

I didn’t watch this yet but Aries spears has one during this same show where he’s talking shit about people who speak English in a Spanish accent, funny

[Elizondo]

Ok no he can't despite whatever collusion you're endorsing, and also they did it under the authority of the 2003 HEROES Act which was explicitly for military services.

Doesn't it strike you as strange that Democrats would use a War of Terror law as pretext for their political agenda? Bush is a Nazi.

Whenever Democrats act like Dictators it's always 'complicated' and unnamed 'scholars and experts' agree with the agenda

[Reiwa]

Whenever Democrats act like Dictators it's always 'complicated' and unnamed 'scholars and experts' agree with the agenda

Can't wait for the studies. :p

[Tethler]

All these right wingers super mad that working class families are getting bailed out while not caring about bailouts for the ultra-rich and big business.

Personally, I have 60k in college debt, which I have completely ignored. Debt collectors have no power to collect when someone is living abroad and working for a foreign company. I have no plans to ever live in the states again, so I was just going to ignore this debt forgiveness.

However, after seeing all the salty cunts coming out of the woodwork, I'm seriously considering applying for the 20k pell grant forgiveness just for the hell of it, even though I never plan to pay the rest back regardless.

[Reiwa]

All these right wingers super mad that working class families are getting bailed out while not caring about bailouts for the ultra-rich and big business.

Personally, I have 60k in college debt, which I have completely ignored. Debt collectors have no power to collect when someone is living abroad and working for a foreign company. I have no plans to ever live in the states again, so I was just going to ignore this debt forgiveness.

However, after seeing all the salty cunts coming out of the woodwork, I'm seriously considering applying for the 20k pell grant forgiveness just for the hell of it, even though I never plan to pay the rest back regardless.

Great stuff you definitely deserve to be included.

[Kaveh]

^perfect example of why this is bad policy

Seriously tethler that’s shitty of you man. Shame on you bud

[unsunghero]

All these right wingers super mad that working class families are getting bailed out while not caring about bailouts for the ultra-rich and big business.

Personally, I have 60k in college debt, which I have completely ignored. Debt collectors have no power to collect when someone is living abroad and working for a foreign company. I have no plans to ever live in the states again, so I was just going to ignore this debt forgiveness.

However, after seeing all the salty cunts coming out of the woodwork, I'm seriously considering applying for the 20k pell grant forgiveness just for the hell of it, even though I never plan to pay the rest back regardless.

Not that I am a fan of bailouts for the rich and big businesses, but just curious…how many members of families do big businesses provide jobs to? What kind of innovation do they create?

Don’t forget: if they have a lot of money they must have cheated somehow and/or stolen it from the poor

[Elizondo]

Personally, I have 60k in college debt, which I have completely ignored.

Tethler confirmed Deadbeat Loser

[Botten]

Whenever Democrats act like Dictators it's always 'complicated' and unnamed 'scholars and experts' agree with the agenda

The letter from the Legal Services Center of Harvard Law School (coauthored by Merrill, Eileen Connor, and Deanne Loonin) argued that Congress granted the Secretary of Education authority to cancel or modify federal student loans.

While Reiwa has merit in his debate... you Elizondo have none.

Fascism is reserved for Trump and DeSantis. DeSantis would get his own personal militia in a heart beat expressed during his FL rein.

[Kaveh]

Botten tuition prices are going up and education quality is going down. The government is subsidizing this and has been for a while

[Mblake1981]

I have no problem with jokes against white people or any race, just try to make them actually funny

Or is that even still allowed? Are comedians allowed to make fun of particular races without getting Will Smith slapped?

I know words are violence now

Funny bit on white people

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nYngZLjWio

N8mzQKl1LH8

[Botten]

Botten tuition prices are going up and education quality is going down. The government is subsidizing this and has been for a while

There are bad stories and some good ones like this one:

Pledge to Advance Connecticut (PACT) was established by the legislature in 2019 to provide free tuition for students attending all twelve community colleges.

[Tethler]

^perfect example of why this is bad policy

Seriously tethler that’s shitty of you man. Shame on you bud

Please think of me as you pay a fraction of a cent toward my college education.



Sarcasm/jokes aside, I feel 0 guilt for abusing a system built around private business that has exploded from gouging young people trying to get an education.

Either the government shouldn't be involved at all, or if they want to be involved with the loan process, there should be price controls in place to prevent the kind of gouging we've had the last few decades. The one foot in, one foot out approach is the problem. For-profit schools extracting govt money just fuels the inflation of tuition.

If they want to build a whole system around exploiting people, then it should be expected that people will exploit the system for their own benefit as well.

[Tethler]

Tethler confirmed Deadbeat Loser

My quality of life is great. I appreciate your concern though.

[Reiwa]

The letter from the Legal Services Center of Harvard Law School (coauthored by Merrill, Eileen Connor, and Deanne Loonin) argued that Congress granted the Secretary of Education authority to cancel or modify federal student loans.

While Reiwa has merit in his debate... you Elizondo have none.

Fascism is reserved for Trump and DeSantis. DeSantis would get his own personal militia in a heart beat expressed during his FL rein.

The FL state guard thing is baloney; NY and Cali and a bunch of other states had it before he said shit about it.

Can't find the pic.

[Kaveh]

Please think of me as you pay a fraction of a cent toward my college education.



Sarcasm/jokes aside, I feel 0 guilt for abusing a system built around private business that has exploded from gouging young people trying to get an education.

Either the government shouldn't be involved at all, or if they want to be involved with the loan process, there should be price controls in place to prevent the kind of gouging we've had the last few decades. The one foot in, one foot out approach is the problem. For-profit schools extracting govt money just fuels the inflation of tuition.

If they want to build a whole system around exploiting people, then it should be expected that people will exploit the system for their own benefit as well.

I didn’t speak English fluently until I was 12 and worked construction through college

Please tell me more about what I owe you

[Tethler]

Great stuff you definitely deserve to be included.

I mean, for reasons stated previously, it really doesn't impact me at all if I'm included or not.

[Reiwa]

The FL state guard thing is baloney; NY and Cali and a bunch of other states had it before he said shit about it.

Can't find the pic.

this will do but i don't think it's the one i remember seeing

https://i.imgur.com/ugpkeAW.png

pic saved as fucker.png on my computer because google was being a fucker about letting me have it.

[unsunghero]

I mean, for reasons stated previously, it really doesn't impact me at all if I'm included or not.

Heck yea, not going to turn away free money thanks to gov’t that I don’t need

I still accepted my free $4k-ish gov’t checks despite the fact that I was working in healthcare straight through the pandemic. What am I gonna do, mail them back and say “no thanks I don’t need this”?

But I do think the crazy 40%-ish of PPP money going to scams/fraud is pretty fucked up

[Kaveh]

I mean, for reasons stated previously, it really doesn't impact me at all if I'm included or not.

You realize the US defends Japan, right? It does matter

Student debt relief is the government actively picking winners and losers. This is a politically divisive policy and that was obvious. It’s also obvious that tuition has been going up and they’re spending the money on Rec centers and student life, not professors and research

Would’ve been better to bring back the child tax credit, which I also oppose btw on the grounds that we’re bankrupt and inflation is 10%, but that would’ve at least made sense and helped far more

This was a dumb policy. And I reiterate I voted for Biden and think trump was a dumb ass. I am not a “right wing cis white male cracker ass peckerwood,” I’m just a person who understands if you run in the red long enough you’re fucked. It’s time for surpluses

[Elizondo]

The letter from the Legal Services Center of Harvard Law School (coauthored by Merrill, Eileen Connor, and Deanne Loonin) argued that Congress granted the Secretary of Education authority to cancel or modify federal student loans.

While Reiwa has merit in his debate... you Elizondo have none.

Fascism is reserved for Trump and DeSantis. DeSantis would get his own personal militia in a heart beat expressed during his FL rein.

Congress has not passed a law that allows The President to forgive this specific Student Loan Debt

You're just parroting that fake Indian Elizabeth Warren's Plan. That's where your letter comes from. They can 'argue' it all they want. Especially when they are the ones getting PAID by such an action. The Secretary of Education does not have the authority to wave a magic wand and erase a trillion dollars in student loan debt.

Government Agencies having such broad powers has already been addressed by The Supreme Court

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/99-1257.ZS.html

2. Section 109(b)(1) does not delegate legislative power to the EPA. When conferring decision making authority upon agencies, Congress must lay down an intelligible principle to which the person or body authorized to act is directed to conform. J. W. Hampton, Jr., & Co. v. United States, 276 U.S. 394, 409. An agency cannot cure an unlawful delegation of legislative power by adopting in its discretion a limiting construction of the statute.

[Kaveh]

Heck yea, not going to turn away free money thanks to gov’t that I don’t need

I still accepted my free $4k-ish gov’t checks despite the fact that I was working in healthcare straight through the pandemic. What am I gonna do, mail them back and say “no thanks I don’t need this”?

But I do think the crazy 40%-ish of PPP money going to scams/fraud is pretty fucked up

No one would turn away free money. That’s why you don’t give it out

I mean I would. But I grew up when the word man meant something entirely different than it does now. I’ll be holding off 1000 chinamen in the Aleutians while you guys figure out how to stop holding each others dick’s and grow a pair

[Kaveh]

^more directed at tethler than you unsung. I admit, I am incensed that he knowingly defrauded his homeland

[robayon]

rich folks ignore bills all the time and have for thousands of years

take a page out of their playbook any time you can.

how many times ol' donnie been sued for that shit? it's common knowledge in ny & nj that he doesn't pay bills

yeah it's a roll of the dice if you don't have his resources and/or can't afford to leave the usa to dodge the legal crap

but if enough of us did this we'd have a shitload more political leverage and power after the dust settled

[Kaveh]

The Armenians held the Taurus mountains for 400 years

Now we can’t even pay back debt we signed in the dotted line for

[Reiwa]

Congress has not passed a law that allows The President to forgive this specific Student Loan Debt

You're just parroting that fake Indian Elizabeth Warren's Plan. That's where your letter comes from. They can 'argue' it all they want. Especially when they are the ones getting PAID by such an action. The Secretary of Education does not have the authority to wave a magic wand and erase a trillion dollars in student loan debt.

Government Agencies having such broad powers has already been addressed by The Supreme Court

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/99-1257.ZS.html

Is it all just a game to challenge WVA vs EPA? (https://apnews.com/article/biden-covid-health-education-0fea030a0875c0e4e1a39b0c098bd48a)

https://i.imgur.com/gbStEBV.jpg

[robayon]

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[unsunghero]

^more directed at tethler than you unsung. I admit, I am incensed that he knowingly defrauded his homeland

Np, props if you would give that back, that’s willpower

[unsunghero]

EsxW-xzLhGQ

Great quote from one of my all time favs

[Elizondo]

Is it all just a game to challenge WVA vs EPA? (https://apnews.com/article/biden-covid-health-education-0fea030a0875c0e4e1a39b0c098bd48a)

https://i.imgur.com/gbStEBV.jpg

Who knows

Deadbeat Botten seems to be under the impression that all this debt will magically turn into pixie dust and unicorn farts

[robayon]

what makes a dollar worth a dollar?

[Kaveh]

Men who came before us who were far better than we are

[unsunghero]

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Lol good shit

These guys still making stuff??

[Tethler]

^more directed at tethler than you unsung. I admit, I am incensed that he knowingly defrauded his homeland

You do realize that governments loans are sold off to private loan servicing companies, right? The US govt has long since been paid back for my debt. The vast majority of this loan forgiveness is going to these private debt collector companies that are currently holding the loans.

[Reiwa]

You do realize that governments loans are sold off to private loan servicing companies, right? The US govt has long since been paid back for my debt. The vast majority of this loan forgiveness is going to these private debt collector companies that are currently holding the loans.

Did you get smarter with the money they gave you?

[Botten]

Who knows

Legal Services Center of Harvard LaW does.

Certainly not fail elf constitutional lawyer Elizondo. Ha!

[nostalgiaquest]

You realize the US defends Japan, right? It does matter


To this I say “kinda”. I was an engineer at Command Fleet Activities Yokosuka base for 6 years.

It’s more like the US exploits Japan allowing us to have multiple military bases on their land to keep pressure on China. We don’t give two shits about protecting them. Tip of the spear, not tip of the shield. And what we’ve done to Okinawa is fucking tragic. One of the nicest places and people on earth, and we’ve essentially turned their whole main island into a giant military base. The locals try to push back, but always fail.

And we get to use their government subsidized labor for a large portion of the maintenance we do. If it’s not nuclear or any other sensitive system, chances are it’s a Japanese guy turning the wrench.

The Japanese nationalist government would love nothing more than to kick us out and rebuild their military. But China also hates the fuck out of Japan for the vast number of atrocities they committed in WWII, so if the US left I wouldn’t be surprised if China came in for revenge.

So yeah, protection is a side affect of our main reason being there. It’s not some noble cause.

[Domo]

Some of the comments in here read as "What I dont like or understand is communisim"

[Homesteaded]

To this I say “kinda”. I was an engineer at Command Fleet Activities Yokosuka base for 6 years.

It’s more like the US exploits Japan allowing us to have multiple military bases on their land to keep pressure on China. We don’t give two shits about protecting them. Tip of the spear, not tip of the shield. And what we’ve done to Okinawa is fucking tragic. One of the nicest places and people on earth, and we’ve essentially turned their whole main island into a giant military base. The locals try to push back, but always fail.

And we get to use their government subsidized labor for a large portion of the maintenance we do. If it’s not nuclear or any other sensitive system, chances are it’s a Japanese guy turning the wrench.

The Japanese nationalist government would love nothing more than to kick us out and rebuild their military. But China also hates the fuck out of Japan for the vast number of atrocities they committed in WWII, so if the US left I wouldn’t be surprised if China came in for revenge.

So yeah, protection is a side affect of our main reason being there. It’s not some noble cause.

They fucked around and found out.

[nostalgiaquest]

Sheeeit dawg, you know it!

[Kaveh]

To this I say “kinda”. I was an engineer at Command Fleet Activities Yokosuka base for 6 years.

It’s more like the US exploits Japan allowing us to have multiple military bases on their land to keep pressure on China. We don’t give two shits about protecting them. Tip of the spear, not tip of the shield. And what we’ve done to Okinawa is fucking tragic. One of the nicest places and people on earth, and we’ve essentially turned their whole main island into a giant military base. The locals try to push back, but always fail.

And we get to use their government subsidized labor for a large portion of the maintenance we do. If it’s not nuclear or any other sensitive system, chances are it’s a Japanese guy turning the wrench.

The Japanese nationalist government would love nothing more than to kick us out and rebuild their military. But China also hates the fuck out of Japan for the vast number of atrocities they committed in WWII, so if the US left I wouldn’t be surprised if China came in for revenge.

So yeah, protection is a side affect of our main reason being there. It’s not some noble cause.

We exploit them? They were committing genocide across the eastern hemisphere prior to being defeated

You have an interesting interpretation of history. Regardless, we do defend them and many others. In any case, an insolvent US collapses the global economy. What debt to GDP ratio scares you? 200%?

[MrSparkle001]

^more directed at tethler than you unsung. I admit, I am incensed that he knowingly defrauded his homeland

There's a rebellious side of me that actually really likes what he's doing. He didn't run a ponzi scheme and escape, he's taking advantage of the overpriced higher education racket and screwing over the system.

It's weird that a part of me really likes it.

[nostalgiaquest]

I absolutely agree they committed mass genocide across the east. I literally put that into my post. I’ve been to Korea and seen and heard stories about what they did there and I would never even begin to defend it. That’s not the point I was trying to make though.

I’m just simply giving my observations about the US’s current situation in Japan. You said we’re there to protect them, I said it’s not that simple.

I said we exploit the fact they allow us to be there. Different to exploiting the peoples themselves. The US (and pretty much every major government) has a habit of taking a mile when offered and inch. Our current position in Japan is no different.

The amount of service members stationed, the number and sizes of bases, the type of maintenance and work that is allowed to be carried out. All of these things are being constantly pushed and expanded, with promises that “this is the last time” being constantly broken.

This is the US military we’re talking about here. Does any of this actually surprise you?

[Mblake1981]

Lol good shit

These guys still making stuff??

JFIyNwEi85I

[robayon]

There's a rebellious side of me that actually really likes what he's doing. He didn't run a ponzi scheme and escape, he's taking advantage of the overpriced higher education racket and screwing over the system.

It's weird that a part of me really likes it.https://i.imgur.com/kVdziTR.jpeg

[MrSparkle001]

https://i.imgur.com/kVdziTR.jpeg

Not understanding that one.

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/kVdziTR.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/xN6nGK3.gif

[unsunghero]

No one’s yet mentioned the fact that many, many jobs that “require” a college degree, still end up having their employees learn the bulk of their job function EXCLUSIVELY during training. Now this isn’t all jobs, for example extremely specialized jobs like engineering

Speaking from my own field, the only part of behavioral health I see people actively using knowledge from their degree is psychiatry or nurse practitioner, prescribing meds. The rest is experienced based. MAYBE outpatient counseling, depending on what modality is being used

Yet the legal scam that is college continues not only unabated, but even more encouraged now that it got a mini-subsidy at the expense of the working class

[robayon]

Not understanding that one.
You’re expressing anarchist sentiments and I just wanted you to know we are recruiting

Also, Junji Ito makes great horror manga. Or Ito Junji I forget which way Japanese names go all the time despite having Japanese family members

[Mblake1981]

Keeps the kitchen spotless, manga enthusiast.

[robayon]

Anyways it’s nice to see people at different points on the political spectrum agreeing that most college degrees are a scam

I have an nearly free associate’s degree and I compete for jobs with people who have master’s degrees and 100k in student debt, and my associate’s degree is unrelated to the field I work in (until recent events but they’re still holding my job for me for the time being)

[robayon]

Keeps the kitchen spotless, manga enthusiast.Cleaned it before we left this morning, and you have a BattleTech book in your signature on an EverQuest forum

[unsunghero]

These are all jobs I’ve seen in behavioral health that can EASILY be done without it a college degree:

- You could be doing what’s called “intakes” which is getting never ending assembly lines of people signed up at a clinic. It’s just asking them 2 hours worth of questions and entering the information into the network. Then linking them up with services, that’s it. If they freak out on you or act psychotic, you call in other help

- You could be a case manager, which involves having a caseload of people you check up on to make sure their services are meeting their needs and offering other resources which are easy to learn (housing, SNAP, substance abuse programs, etc)

- you could work at a group home or substance abuse clinic directly with residents there. Maybe giving medications, maybe facilitating a group (this is not considered counseling)

- you could be a peer support, helping either kids or adults by taking them out in the community and doing stuff with them

- you could work at a behavioral health hospital in literally ANY position other than the top administration or doing outpatient counseling, which would require a license

- And this is just off the top of my head when I’m tired in the morning

- all of these jobs would start paying around $35k+ a year

ALL of these positions ask for a degree and yet ALL of them will either train you or you will learn as you go. The alternative? Many of them will accept you if you have no degree but “2 year experience in the field”. How do you get that experience without the degree? Beats me!

[robayon]

Does being in rehab count as experience? Asking for a friend

[unsunghero]

Does being in rehab count as experience? Asking for a friend

Lol no :(

[Jibartik]

White house tweets about how it gave child rapist nazis 100 million dollars from the fed and that's supposed to make people feel good about 10k off 80k loans?

[Mblake1981]

Cleaned it before we left this morning, and you have a BattleTech book in your signature on an EverQuest forum

Clean.

None of that is manga, but nothing really matters and its all silly.

[Kaveh]

I absolutely agree they committed mass genocide across the east. I literally put that into my post. I’ve been to Korea and seen and heard stories about what they did there and I would never even begin to defend it. That’s not the point I was trying to make though.

I’m just simply giving my observations about the US’s current situation in Japan. You said we’re there to protect them, I said it’s not that simple.

I said we exploit the fact they allow us to be there. Different to exploiting the peoples themselves. The US (and pretty much every major government) has a habit of taking a mile when offered and inch. Our current position in Japan is no different.

The amount of service members stationed, the number and sizes of bases, the type of maintenance and work that is allowed to be carried out. All of these things are being constantly pushed and expanded, with promises that “this is the last time” being constantly broken.

This is the US military we’re talking about here. Does any of this actually surprise you?

Fair enough

[Kaveh]

These are all jobs I’ve seen in behavioral health that can EASILY be done without it a college degree:

- You could be doing what’s called “intakes” which is getting never ending assembly lines of people signed up at a clinic. It’s just asking them 2 hours worth of questions and entering the information into the network. Then linking them up with services, that’s it. If they freak out on you or act psychotic, you call in other help

- You could be a case manager, which involves having a caseload of people you check up on to make sure their services are meeting their needs and offering other resources which are easy to learn (housing, SNAP, substance abuse programs, etc)

- you could work at a group home or substance abuse clinic directly with residents there. Maybe giving medications, maybe facilitating a group (this is not considered counseling)

- you could be a peer support, helping either kids or adults by taking them out in the community and doing stuff with them

- you could work at a behavioral health hospital in literally ANY position other than the top administration or doing outpatient counseling, which would require a license

- And this is just off the top of my head when I’m tired in the morning

- all of these jobs would start paying around $35k+ a year

ALL of these positions ask for a degree and yet ALL of them will either train you or you will learn as you go. The alternative? Many of them will accept you if you have no degree but “2 year experience in the field”. How do you get that experience without the degree? Beats me!

My son makes $250k as a CRNA. I thought he was a moron for becoming a nurse, but he had his bachelor’s done by 20 and grad school done by 30

I’d do that, comp sci, or engineering if I were 18. Back in the day I did engineering with the hopes of going to med school but I’m dumb and got a girl pregnant so just a lowly electrical engineer

[unsunghero]

My son makes $250k as a CRNA. I thought he was a moron for becoming a nurse, but he had his bachelor’s done by 20 and grad school done by 30

I’d do that, comp sci, or engineering if I were 18. Back in the day I did engineering with the hopes of going to med school but I’m dumb and got a girl pregnant so just a lowly electrical engineer

Medical is always going to demand the degree for their own liability but even EE or IT stuff, with how much information is freely out there on the internet, I could see those jobs being done by someone who is self-taught

One of my parent’s friends when I was growing up was making 6 figures doing computer repair (hardware and software), never went to a day of college, all self-taught

[Kaveh]

Medical is always going to demand the degree for their own liability but even EE or IT stuff, with how much information is freely out there on the internet, I could see those jobs being done by someone who is self-taught

One of my parent’s friends when I was growing up was making 6 figures doing computer repair (hardware and software), never went to a day of college, all self-taught

Coding / IT, surely. Engineers still want the degrees and internships. Half of it is business and connections now / can you make people laugh over a beer. Thankfully, the other half for me is still calculus so I’m not bored to tears

Nursing degrees can be done quickly at public schools. Especially if you do dual credit in high school. Given that you can just go NP or CRNA, I think more men should consider it if they can stand being a nurse for a few years. I couldn’t, but being poor would be worse than paying one’s dues

[red_demonman]

Gotta buy those votes, midterm comin' up real soon.

[robayon]

Gotta buy those votes, midterm comin' up real soon.Hell yeah hope it works so future politicians do it more

It's about time the workers got bailouts like corporations have for decades

[Tethler]

Medical is always going to demand the degree for their own liability but even EE or IT stuff, with how much information is freely out there on the internet, I could see those jobs being done by someone who is self-taught


Guy I know learned coding from youtube and just hustled and sent samples of his work with applications. Landed a job working for Amazon, which he stayed with for several years. Has since quit and started his own business. He got that initial job like 10 or 12 years ago though. Dunno if the industry is more strict about degrees nowadays.

[Jibartik]

the best thing about the medical industry is how my doctors all perscribe the same perscription drug that I tell them all I dont want, because the insurance agencies are pushing it on them.

You all know what im talking about

methocarbamol

that fucking shitty as peace of shit drug every doctor pushes on everyone because the medicine they prescribe is not up to them.

[robayon]

do docs balk at prescribing soma these days? or is it insurance companies? methocarbamol cheaper?

[Jibartik]

lol soma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World)

I didnt even know that was a real drug haha

methocarbamol cheaper?

yeap.

[Botten]

Gotta buy those votes, midterm comin' up real soon.

And that popular vote margin gets wider and wider. Progression is needed or this great country will fail. Educate the masses. Tear down the old ways that just don't work anymore. Adapt, to different customs and culture. Distribute old money to invest in the future. Better psychological and social educational programs for those who push back or harbor hatred for the differences of others. Enforce safety by allowing more companies who make lethal weapons to be sued for damages; their sales cause - indirectly reducing the production.

buy no invest - in just a better life.

[Reiwa]

And that popular vote margin gets wider and wider. Progression is needed or this great country will fail. Educate the masses. Tear down the old ways that just don't work anymore. Adapt, to different customs and culture. Distribute old money to invest in the future. Better psychological and social educational programs for those who push back or harbor hatred for the differences of others. Enforce safety by allowing more companies who make lethal weapons to be sued for damages; their sales cause - indirectly reducing the production.

buy no invest - in just a better life.

Taxation to shape behavior?

[Botten]

Taxation to shape behavior?

Our new Constitution is now established, everything seems to promise it will be durable; but, in this world, nothing is certain except death and taxes... -Ben F

I know you like quotes.

[robayon]

Taxation to shape behavior?Why not? there’s a crapload of public and private things in most societies designed to shape behavior

I personally think anyone who votes for Republicans should have their income tax doubled, and if they complain, triple it

[Reiwa]

Shoot the hostage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome)

[Mblake1981]

Why not? there’s a crapload of public and private things in most societies designed to shape behavior

I personally think anyone who votes for Republicans should have their income tax doubled, and if they complain, triple it

Imagine being this silly about something that doesn't matter anyway.

https://i.imgur.com/SaQBsAW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bfUcxGA.gif

[Rethalis]

Some of the comments in here read as "What I dont like or understand is communisim"

And that popular vote margin gets wider and wider. Progression is needed or this great country will fail. Educate the masses. Tear down the old ways that just don't work anymore. Adapt, to different customs and culture. Distribute old money to invest in the future. Better psychological and social educational programs for those who push back or harbor hatred for the differences of others. Enforce safety by allowing more companies who make lethal weapons to be sued for damages; their sales cause - indirectly reducing the production.

buy no invest - in just a better life.

Only thing progressives are good at is playing make believe in neverland forever.

[hobart]

There should be no student loan forgiveness. Any amount of student loans that weren't spent on courses and books/materials should be able to be discharged under Chapter 7.

[Jibartik]

So how does this student loan forgiveness work.

Like everyone that is not paying off their 80 thousand dollar loan, is now not paying off their 70 thousand dollar loan?

[Mblake1981]

So how does this student loan forgiveness work.

Like everyone that is not paying off their 80 thousand dollar loan, is now not paying off their 70 thousand dollar loan?

It's not that complicated. These kids need help and are suffering and this will help them. They can stimulate the economy by saving for a downpayment on a new home, a car, fresh clothes, dining out, gym memberships and other life improvements.

[Kaveh]

It's not that complicated. These kids need help and are suffering and this will help them. They can stimulate the economy by saving for a downpayment on a new home, a car, fresh clothes, dining out, gym memberships and other life improvements.

Why do you keep mentioning gym memberships? Why do you think being obese and eating hungryman dinners isn’t you taking Medicare dollars, assuming you live to 65?

Medicare is welfare as is student debt relief

[Mblake1981]

Why do you keep mentioning gym memberships? Why do you think being obese and eating hungryman dinners isn’t you taking Medicare dollars, assuming you live to 65?

Medicare is welfare as is student debt relief

It takes some learning, education is usually the answer.

[Jibartik]

seriously, theyre not getting a check, right?

[Mblake1981]

seriously, theyre not getting a check, right?

The keys to success.

[Homesteaded]

I propose they mint a new $10,000 bill with Bidens mug on it. Could have an ice cream hologram thing on it under the right light.

[Mblake1981]

I don't see the harm in that.

[Jibartik]

Let me get this straight:

BANKS who hold the loans for these students, get 10k cash monies, for each student who has failed to pay back their loans?

Am I getting this right??

[Mblake1981]

Let me get this straight:

BANKS who hold the loans for these students, get 10k cash monies, for each student who has failed to pay back their loans?

Am I getting this right??

I think it is a case of misplaced anger, we sent 30+ billion overseas and some domestic companies got some money too. These kids are hurting.

#kidsindebtcages

[Jibartik]

Im willing to bet not a single fucking soul except the ones that wrote it knows what this bill does.

[Mblake1981]

It would probably require more education, you would already know what most of it is. Like the car manual you find in the glove box. I already know how to change the tires.

[Jibartik]

Hmm if you combine this convo and the end time one, it seems to indicate: education = dumbassery/not smart

[Mblake1981]

Hmm if you combine this convo and the end time one, it seems to indicate: education = dumbassery/not smart

That’s true provided that the leaders of the companies who make the outsourcing decisions know what they are doing: they have a clear vision of where they’re steering the corporate ship, and a sound plan to effectively redeploy the funds they save from outsourcing—to create new jobs that replace those lost in outsourcing.

The trouble is that some corporate leaders have neither. That’s how they ended up sending tens of thousands of jobs overseas but didn’t stay competitive.

Old Hewlett Packard is a case in point. Three decades ago, outsourcing was supposed to help the company regain its competitiveness. At least that's how its leaders sold their strategy to Wall Street, which cheered the move.

In the short-term, outsourcing did just that, helping the company cut costs by laying off thousands of employees at home.

In the long-term, it made entry of new competitors into HP’s turf easier. And that’s how the company gave its competitive advantage away, piece-by-piece, to Lenovo (CCP) and the like.

[Jibartik]

we outsourced the entire manufacturing industry and then were surprised when the illegal drug industry took over.

[Mblake1981]

we outsourced the entire manufacturing industry and then were surprised when the illegal drug industry took over.

When I think about how the western economy outsourced itself I get so mad.

[unsunghero]

..

[Reiwa]

When I think about how the western economy outsourced itself I get so mad.

It's hard to tell if you're being sarcastic and that's fantastic.

[unsunghero]

…

[Rethalis]

^^^^nice

[Mblake1981]

It's hard to tell if you're being sarcastic and that's fantastic.

https://i.imgur.com/ksR82oF.png
https://i.imgur.com/WHHP5Ky.png

https://i.imgur.com/SaQBsAW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bfUcxGA.gif

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/ksR82oF.png
https://i.imgur.com/WHHP5Ky.png

ffUcVd7eNpo

[Jibartik]

It's hard to tell if you're being sarcastic and that's fantastic.

he's got me for sure every time lol im like, well ok yes that is me.

[Kaveh]

Let me get this straight:

BANKS who hold the loans for these students, get 10k cash monies, for each student who has failed to pay back their loans?

Am I getting this right??

Trump and Biden will go down in history as inflation queens

[Elizondo]

Legal Services Center of Harvard LaW does.

Certainly not fail elf constitutional lawyer Elizondo. Ha!

Bro just stop. You're embarrassing yourself

Even WAPO dunked on that ridiculous talking point it's so stupid

[Jibartik]

Trump and Biden will go down in history as inflation queens

what about what about what about!

[unsunghero]

Trump and Biden will go down in history as inflation queens

All I know is there is ZERO chance that a 300B stimulus adds to inflation. Why do I know this? Because Joe Biden promised me it wouldn’t

Also, this inflation is transitory

[Mblake1981]

he's got me for sure every time lol im like, well ok yes that is me.

I like showing people my human side so they feel at ease, it can't be all fire and brimstone.

[Jibartik]

each time the way you condense my stance does make me feel like a complete retard screaming at clouds lol

[Kaveh]

All I know is there is ZERO chance that a 300B stimulus adds to inflation. Why do I know this? Because Joe Biden promised me it wouldn’t

Also, this inflation is transitory

Central Bank of England projects 18.4% inflation next year in the UK. They have a worse economy than we do and Brexit is turning out badly, but we have similar financial and industrial components in our economy

Buckle up. It’s gonna be bad and our politicians won’t do what must be done (balance the fucking budget)

[Kaveh]

what about what about what about!

???

[Jibartik]

i dont remember

[Reiwa]

Who knows

Deadbeat Botten seems to be under the impression that all this debt will magically turn into pixie dust and unicorn farts

Haha (https://www.courthousenews.com/student-loan-forgiveness-plan-has-a-scotus-problem/)

Student loan forgiveness plan has a SCOTUS problem

Erikson was referring to West Virginia v. EPA, a case that curbed the Environmental Protection Agency's authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions at coal-fired power plants.

Split along party lines, the conservative majority leaned on the major questions doctrine to strike down the EPA’s regulatory scheme. This doctrine says that explicit authorization from Congress is necessary if executive agencies are taking “major” actions that will have large economic and political significance.

West Virginia created this new standard, but the justices did not lay out a specific test to apply it. Experts predict that the loan forgiveness plan Biden announced Wednesday may be the first application.

[unsunghero]

"The other option would be to scrap the Heroes Act justification and go another route such as the Higher Education Act"

- Or just stop trying to cheat and use legislation

I didn't even realize Biden was using 2022 Covid as legal justification for passing this thing, I just assume at this point that whatever the President wants, he does

[Kaveh]

The imperial presidency is a real problem

[Jibartik]

So nobody’s going to see one red cent except for the banks that hold all these loans?

Why do Democrats love giving money to banks so much?

[Reiwa]

"The other option would be to scrap the Heroes Act justification and go another route such as the Higher Education Act"

- Or just stop trying to cheat and use legislation

I didn't even realize Biden was using 2022 Covid as legal justification for passing this thing, I just assume at this point that whatever the President wants, he does

Recent Heroes act never passed, that was the AOC/Bernie bill from early COVID.

It's the 2003 one they're using and I don't know when the Higher Education Act is from.

[Elizondo]

So nobody’s going to see one red cent except for the banks that hold all these loans?

Why do Democrats love giving money to banks so much?

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2012/01/13/elizabeth-warren-salary-harvard/

Elizabeth Warren’s Salary at Harvard: $429,981. Warren earned the sum from 2010 to 2011, excluding her earnings as an expert witness in an antitrust case ($90,000), as a consultant on a case involving asbestos victims ($43,938), from royalty fees ($136,946), or from the stuff that gets complicated: investments, real estate, renting out her multi-million-dollar home, and, you know, earnings from government appointments.

[Jibartik]

Kings 10:14 "the weight of gold which Solomon received every year was 666 talents of gold."

[Trungep99]

The government bailed out billionaires plenty of time when they fuck up. So to me it’s the same thing as helping someone with their problems

[Jibartik]

Guess who gets the checks for this bailout trunge?

Billionares.

[Patrece]

Everything costs way more right now, the deduction will be taxed and this will cause even more inflation

You're all poorer for these 2 years so far and the next two will be even worse

[Tethler]

Guess who gets the checks for this bailout trunge?

Billionares.

If they cut checks and mailed them out and people payed 10k off their loans, who gets the money in the end? (hint: the answer is the same)

That doesn't make it not worth doing though. Clearing those debts, for most people, means they suddenly have hundreds of dollars more a month to save, invest, or put into the economy.

[Botten]

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2012/01/13/elizabeth-warren-salary-harvard/

desperately tries to make it a conspiracy as the red wave crashes (https://www.msnbc.com/ayman-mohyeldin/watch/-red-wave-appears-to-be-crashing-ahead-of-2022-midterms-147161669956). I love it.

[Kaveh]

Seems like the house is going republican so idk about “red wave crashes”

But I didn’t click the link

[Botten]

Seems like the house is going republican so idk about “red wave crashes”

But I didn’t click the link

realistically, it probably is. Media .. meh but I love the enthusiasm.

[Elizondo]

If they cut checks and mailed them out and people payed 10k off their loans, who gets the money in the end? (hint: the answer is the same)

That doesn't make it not worth doing though. Clearing those debts, for most people, means they suddenly have hundreds of dollars more a month to save, invest, or put into the economy.

Save and invest?

desperately tries to make it a conspiracy as the red wave crashes (https://www.msnbc.com/ayman-mohyeldin/watch/-red-wave-appears-to-be-crashing-ahead-of-2022-midterms-147161669956). I love it.

MSNBC lol

[MrSparkle001]

Waah I can't pay my student loan.

https://i.imgur.com/qOojjhD.jpg

[unsunghero]

If they have an outstanding loan it’s probably better to finish paying that before they look to spending or investing anything, right? A free $10k from daddy-government isn’t going to cover the rest of their outstanding loan

I have 3k of credit card debt left so until I pay that no investment is worth doing. The only thing I spend money on besides bills is maybe dates and maybe another donation to p99 if I continue to play casually

[Jibartik]

It pains me to hear that unsung is stuck in a viscious cycle that is the result of the western economic system.

No reason for someone like unsung to be in debt, or not investing in his future at this point in his life.

Guy goes canoeing and plays video games, and yet he's stuck paying off debt, living paycheck to paycheck?

It makes me sick.

Not that I think you're doing anything wrong unsung, its that your entire life has been stolen from you.

You shouldnt even be thinking about this shit living the life you live, but here you are, telling us you're not investing??

It makes me so sick, because you're paying lenders?????? death to america

DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO AMERICA

3Bw1a_O2m48

[Reiwa]

If they have an outstanding loan it’s probably better to finish paying that before they look to spending or investing anything, right? A free $10k from daddy-government isn’t going to cover the rest of their outstanding loan

I have 3k of credit card debt left so until I pay that no investment is worth doing. The only thing I spend money on besides bills is maybe dates and maybe another donation to p99 if I continue to play casually

Depends on the interest rate. CC I think is higher so good call.

[Jibartik]

Depends on the interest rate.

While former private equity executive and Federal Reserve Bank Chair Jerome Powell takes aim at workers with a pledge to “get wages down” to combat inflation, he has declined to implement a law to reduce the skyrocketing paychecks of his former colleagues on Wall Street.

A BANK OF AMERICA executive stated that “we hope” working Americans will lose leverage in the labor market in a recent private memo obtained by The Intercept. Making predictions for clients about the U.S. economy over the next several years, the memo also noted that changes in the percentage of Americans seeking jobs “should help push up the unemployment rate.”

3Bw1a_O2m48

[unsunghero]

It pains me to hear that unsung is stuck in a viscious cycle that is the result of the western economic system.

No reason for someone like unsung to be in debt, or not investing in his future at this point in his life.

Guy goes canoeing and plays video games, and yet he's stuck paying off debt, living paycheck to paycheck?

It makes me sick.

Not that I think you're doing anything wrong unsung, its that your entire life has been stolen from you.

You shouldnt even be thinking about this shit living the life you live, but here you are, telling us you're not investing??

It makes me so sick, because you're paying lenders?????? death to america

DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO AMERICA


Eh, it is what it is. I already paid off a different card which had $4k. The trick is losing the physical card, so I can’t use it anymore

[Elizondo]

Has money to 'save and invest'

Can't pay back his student loan he contractually agreed to

Deadbeat logic

[Jibartik]

Eh, it is what it is. I already paid off a different card which had $4k. The trick is losing the physical card, so I can’t use it anymore

It's not what it is.

It's what this corrupt stupid system is.

Ive had it. It results in 299 million angry Americans angry on the news tv and all social media every day ranting about how pissed they are I'm sick of it!!

The system SUCKS!

[Jibartik]

Has money to 'save and invest'

Can't pay back his student loan he contractually agreed to

Deadbeat logic

add:

"Government writes checks to lenders paid for by audits of the lower middle class" to the list.

3Bw1a_O2m48

[Reiwa]

It's not what it is.

It's what this corrupt stupid system is.

Ive had it. It results in 299 million angry Americans angry on the news tv and all social media every day ranting about how pissed they are I'm sick of it!!

The system SUCKS!

If everyones a slave noone is. :p

Smh avocado toast.

[Jibartik]

The left makes fun of the right for saying, "I can be a billionare too one day!"

But I make fun of the left, because they say, "I can be middle class too one day, like my parents were, who worked 1 less job than I do currently!"

[Jibartik]

Smh avocado toast.


The average meal deal at McDonalds is more expensive than the average avocado toast, and less nutriousious.


Death.

To.

America.

[Reiwa]

The average meal deal at McDonalds is more expensive than the average avocado toast, and less nutriousious.


Death.

To.

America.

AT doesn't have enough calories for winter.

Using brioche would help boost it, but that lady got the ol choppy choppy for saying so.

[Jibartik]

even Daniel ate avocado toast.

The real funnything about America is, if you think about it, everyone is shaming people who are eating healthy breakfasts lol what joke this country is.

https://i.imgur.com/UjaqzkU.png

[Jibartik]

"oh they ate an avocado!?!" "what a greedy piece of shit!"

go ahead, try and convince me satan's not in charge.

[unsunghero]

"oh they ate an avocado!?!" "what a greedy piece of shit!"

go ahead, try and convince me satan's not in charge.

I got a carne asada burrito and chicken taco from filiburto’s (considered the lowest rung of Mexican food but the closest to my house) and it came out to $15, that is fuckin crazy. I remember when it was like $8-9 for both

[Jibartik]

$15 dollar tripe in this failed state lol

[Ooloo]

A huge portion of student debt is held by graduate students, who much more than undergrads are on course to make more than enough money to pay them back. Anyone who can't understand people's opposition to this are just completely out of touch with basic human nature and most people's sense of what's fair.

The colleges themselves should be held more accountable, I am sympathetic when people complain about how much college costs now VS a generation ago. It really makes no sense at all.

[Elizondo]

A huge portion of student debt is held by graduate students, who much more than undergrads are on course to make more than enough money to pay them back. Anyone who can't understand people's opposition to this are just completely out of touch with basic human nature and most people's sense of what's fair.

The colleges themselves should be held more accountable, I am sympathetic when people complain about how much college costs now VS a generation ago. It really makes no sense at all.

Nah man

Don't you understand?

You're a cool Edgelord if you borrow 60K and flee the country so you don't have to pay it back

Just ask Tethler

[unsunghero]

A huge portion of student debt is held by graduate students, who much more than undergrads are on course to make more than enough money to pay them back. Anyone who can't understand people's opposition to this are just completely out of touch with basic human nature and most people's sense of what's fair.

The colleges themselves should be held more accountable, I am sympathetic when people complain about how much college costs now VS a generation ago. It really makes no sense at all.

[Reiwa]

The colleges themselves should be held more accountable, I am sympathetic when people complain about how much college costs now VS a generation ago. It really makes no sense at all.

Evil smart guy Twitter is saying some shit about taxing their endowments.

Haha taxes! (https://youtu.be/HFgU0InQ2Fo)

[Mblake1981]

It really makes no sense at all.

It doesn't? an aspiration turned into a standard of living. You need this to survive, automation is threatening from one side already.

[w1zard]

"I had to suffer through polio. And now they have a vaccine for it... for free? No, those broke kids should suffer like I did. That fucking pinko commie Jonas Salk is probably a deep state pedophile." - the modern conservative stereotype who has time-travelled to 1955

this captures it well

[Reiwa]

this captures it well

Salk never got paid for his invention so I don't see why upper class millenials should get paid for their social media agitations.

[Homesteaded]

this captures it well

$10,000 student loan is similar to a vaccine how? Not like the Covid “vaccine” like a real vaccine that actually does what it should.

Terrible analogy.

[Kaveh]

this captures it well

It really doesn’t

Just because some embittered rednecks reflexively hate everything Brandon does, it doesn’t mean incentivizing grift is good for the long term health of the republic

Colleges invest in lazy rivers and football stadiums as they cut tenured professorial positions. You are being dunked on and don’t have the MENSA level IQ of a handsomillionaire like myself to see it

[unsunghero]

$10,000 student loan is similar to a vaccine how? Not like the Covid “vaccine” like a real vaccine that actually does what it should.

Terrible analogy.

I don’t think the medical syntax is important, the jist of it to me is a sarcastic “well I suffered so they should suffer too”

And I completely agree with that. They should suffer too

Because being responsible is suffering, having discipline is suffering, facing the consequences of our choices is suffering…just because something involves suffering, doesn’t mean it’s inherently bad for us

Also, it can be seen as unfair to many others

Also, it’s legal legitimacy still seems to be in question

The best counter-point seems to be finding another example of an “unfair” bailout

[Tethler]

You're cool if you borrow 60K and flee the country so you don't have to pay it back


Agree

[nostalgiaquest]

I have 3k of credit card debt left so until I pay that no investment is worth doing. The only thing I spend money on besides bills is maybe dates and maybe another donation to p99 if I continue to play casually


I was a Republican….still am

Had sex this past weekend

Have my own 450k house, 45k 2021 truck, and full time job

Grats on your life choices too though. Looks like by your list of chars...

A few pages back you boast about "owning" a bunch of stuff, and then now say you have 3k in credit card debt. Do you not have the spare cash to pay that debt off right now? Are you living paycheck to paycheck? How much does that truck payment cost you each month?

This type of lifestyle is terrifying to me. You're one emergency away from total financial ruin.

I mean good on you if you're happy, and I'm sure the house will end up being a good investment, but I just don't understand this being a measure of "success".

[unsunghero]

A few pages back you boast about "owning" a bunch of stuff, and then now say you have 3k in credit card debt. Do you not have the spare cash to pay that debt off right now? Are you living paycheck to paycheck? How much does that truck payment cost you each month?

This type of lifestyle is terrifying to me. You're one emergency away from total financial ruin.

I mean good on you if you're happy, and I'm sure the house will end up being a good investment, but I just don't understand this being a measure of "success".

I'm not saying be like me, I'm saying being responsible involves suffering

So I didn't see the purpose of using an analogy comparing meeting one's agreed upon financial obligations to suffering from polio

(truck payment is 300/mo, if I fail to meet it they repo the truck. Any home emergency I have homeowner insurance, for example I had to use this when my tree fell on my house in a storm. For medical emergencies my health insurance will cover 80% after my deductible, granted open heart surgery would still be catastrophic. It's more like a series of bad events rather than 1 that would ruin me)

[Jibartik]

Classic progressive speaking from a position of affluent white privilege while he destroys the environment flying all over the world with a carbon footprint 300 times the person theyre criticizing just trying to get by.

[nostalgiaquest]

I'm not saying be like me, I'm saying being responsible involves suffering

So I didn't see the purpose of using an analogy comparing meeting one's agreed upon financial obligations to suffering from polio

(truck payment is 300/mo, if I fail to meet it they repo the truck. Any home emergency I have homeowner insurance, for example I had to use this when my tree fell on my house in a storm. For medical emergencies my health insurance will cover 80% after my deductible, granted open heart surgery would still be catastrophic. It's more like a series of bad events rather than 1 that would ruin me)

Yeah I wasn't posting regarding the polio comment. Stupid analogies are stupid, I agree.

[nostalgiaquest]

Classic progressive speaking from a position of affluent white privilege while he destroys the environment flying all over the world with a carbon footprint 300 times the person theyre criticizing just trying to get by.

Classic whiney bitch Jib post.

This entire thread is people criticizing others for their financial choices. Unsung's a big boy, he can handle it. Don't hate the player hate the game.

I don't know why I bother, but since you love to bring up my carbon footprint all the time. I live in a house with no AC, have no kids, and ride my bike/train to work when i'm not working from home. I buy locally sourced and grown foods since Netherlands produces a majority of it in Europe. A big part of my job is making high power use facilities around the world more energy efficient, which I dare say I'm quite good at. Is my footprint high? Probably. Is ithigher than someone in Arizona who drives a big truck around and runs AC most of year? I dunno.

I could do the math for you, but the last time I did that in the Train thread you ended up sending me private messages trying to explain why I was still wrong even after the numbers showed you were full of shit.

I do like how pretty much every one of my posts gets a response from you though. Makes me feel special.

[nostalgiaquest]

(truck payment is 300/mo, if I fail to meet it they repo the truck.

Back on topic. If you don't mind me asking, why buy the expensive new Truck when you knew that meant more heavy payments? 300 a month is no joke. And I claim full ignorance to the benefits of buying new cars as far as depreciation and trade in values, so perhaps I'm missing something.

I pondered buying a nice car when I moved to the NL, but cheaped out and bought a lame ass 2015 Nissan instead. I really hate making payments.

[Tethler]

This thread is pretty good so far

[Jibartik]

Classic whiney bitch Jib post.

This entire thread is people criticizing others for their financial choices. Unsung's a big boy, he can handle it. Don't hate the player hate the game.

I don't know why I bother, but since you love to bring up my carbon footprint all the time. I live in a house with no AC, have no kids, and ride my bike/train to work when i'm not working from home. I buy locally sourced and grown foods since Netherlands produces a majority of it in Europe. A big part of my job is making high power use facilities around the world more energy efficient, which I dare say I'm quite good at. Is my footprint high? Probably. Is ithigher than someone in Arizona who drives a big truck around and runs AC most of year? I dunno.

I could do the math for you, but the last time I did that in the Train thread you ended up sending me private messages trying to explain why I was still wrong even after the numbers showed you were full of shit.

I do like how pretty much every one of my posts gets a response from you though. Makes me feel special.

White privileged mansplaining.

You’re destroying the environment living this colonialist lifestyle, afforded to you by dumb luck.

[unsunghero]

Back on topic. If you don't mind me asking, why buy the expensive new Truck when you knew that meant more heavy payments? 300 a month is no joke. And I claim full ignorance to the benefits of buying new cars as far as depreciation and trade it, so perhaps I'm missing something.

I pondered buying a nice car when I moved to the NL, but cheaped out and bought a lame ass 2015 Nissan instead. I really hate making payments.

Yea I don’t mind criticism or scrutiny, especially when it’s good intended, trolling stuff is obvious

I am definitely not a super success story but the original quote by the other poster I responded to had set a very low bar implying “everyone here is a virgin basement dwelling degenerate” type of attitude, so you give me a bar THAT low and I’ll step over it. Now if the claim had been something to the effect of “everyone here has below average long term financial planning and a terrible investment portfolio” I wouldn’t say shit :)

Long story short I loved my old 2011 frontier and had been using the same (formerly) trusted service company until they left the cap off my radiator and it caused my engine to fry, then they denied responsibility. I was using a loaner vehicle from a family member until that started to break down and I knew I had to replace it. I wanted to go with a Tacoma this time for the reliability and was exclusively looking at pre-owned up to 5-7yrs old, but in the crazy vehicle market that happened to exist in June 2021, pre-owned Tacomas were like the same price as new. So I ended up driving 150 miles for one of the last new ones on the lots. Later I had the frontier fixed (was a complete engine re-build so it took a long time), and since it was paid in full I still made $ on the sale, despite having to eat the cost of the repair. Had the repair been able to be done sooner or the loaner wasn’t breaking down things woulda turned out differently. But at least thanks to this fucked up car market I think the new one has actually gone up in value, which should never happen for a vehicle. I guess that’s not a short version…

Nissans are great though too, not lame at all. It’s all about the reliability

[Jibartik]

You have to put things in perspective.

Like when a rich person is like I don’t need Coca-Cola to have joy in my life.

It’s different when you’re slaving away in the hot sun roofing for 14 hours and you’ve got seven dollars to spend.

Like expecting that guy to not drink Coke is so obtuse.

It’s like rich libertarians are always like I don’t understand why the poor don’t pick themselves up on the bootstraps when the poor dont do anything but work and get f’d by banks.

And then they can’t afford anything else and libertarians who are purely lucky they just won the lottery like all the rest of the libertarians, are like I don’t understand, why do you need a car to feel special.

Writing from a campsite on a satellite phone in $150,000 camper.

The problem isn’t somebody bought a $300 car that’s like such a low car payment.

The problem is that in this country the guy who has a $300 car and his hobby is canoeing isn’t able to save money that’s the problem that’s the thing that we should be concerned with.

That is not his fault that is a perfectly reasonable expectation to have for anyone in this country.

[Jibartik]

Like saying $300 car payment is spending too much is like listening to Jeff Bezos try to do that price guessing game on the jimmy Fallon show.

Like come on dude do you not know what happened to prices of cars in this country after the cash for clunkers got rid of all the used ones?

Why would you know that you’re standing on a volcano somewhere.

[Jibartik]

I’m just roasting you nostalgia

(Like you and the kardashians are the globe)

[Domo]

this forum board suck ass

[MrSparkle001]

A huge portion of student debt is held by graduate students, who much more than undergrads are on course to make more than enough money to pay them back. Anyone who can't understand people's opposition to this are just completely out of touch with basic human nature and most people's sense of what's fair.

The colleges themselves should be held more accountable, I am sympathetic when people complain about how much college costs now VS a generation ago. It really makes no sense at all.

This is the true heart of the matter. The cost of the degree is the problem and this loan forgiveness does nothing to solve it. It actually has the potential to make things worse if colleges really do increase tuition.

[MrSparkle001]

If they have an outstanding loan it’s probably better to finish paying that before they look to spending or investing anything, right? A free $10k from daddy-government isn’t going to cover the rest of their outstanding loan

But it will make them more likely to vote for the people that gave them that free $10k.

So many people aren't understanding what's going on. Not necessarily here on this mentally ill forum, but go check out Imgur or some other woefully misinformed site.

[Jibartik]

‘People are tired of being ignored while the rich get richer’: Bernie Sanders on anger and hope in the US and UK (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/30/people-are-tired-of-being-ignored-while-the-rich-get-richer-bernie-sanders-on-anger-and-hope-in-the-us-and-uk)

[robayon]

imagine getting out manuevered by joe biden. absolute losers on the right in america. look at the so-called allies of the working class fuming over the working class getting help for once instead of a corporation.

obviously this doesn't do shit to solve the whole problem, not unless college becomes free, because, as always, the real problem is capitalism in the first place.

if you complain about crony capitalism, you are just complaining about capitalism. cronyism has been part of every economic system, capitalism is the one that rewards it most efficiently.

[Mblake1981]

"What til they get a load of this one"

-sent from my iphone

(after washing the dishes and reading my manga)

‘People are tired of being ignored while the rich get richer’: Bernie Sanders on anger and hope in the US and UK (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/30/people-are-tired-of-being-ignored-while-the-rich-get-richer-bernie-sanders-on-anger-and-hope-in-the-us-and-uk)

I am working on my 4th home right now.

[robayon]

https://i.imgur.com/43PC92a.png

[robayon]

https://i.imgur.com/voe7va7.jpeg

[red_demonman]

Pro-tip: get a non-crappy degree from a state school or go to a trade school.

Also lol at them helping the "working class". Yeah white-collar working class. I guess all the blue collars are a bunch of suckers eh?

[Mblake1981]

I like posting memes from 9gag and 4chan.

[robayon]

I like posting memes from 9gag and 4chan.maybe this is more your speed since you like to hide behind sarcasm like elizondo and think people don't see through it


https://i.imgur.com/e81nV2D.jpeg

[Reiwa]

It's probably bad if tweeps are able to run pockets on uncle sam.

Turns out that website is real life.

[Kaveh]

https://i.imgur.com/43PC92a.png

America could just conscript people dude

It’s a volunteer force. You could just join the coast guard for free college

Great country to live in my man but it isn’t without flaws and that makes people very, very mad. God bless

[Jibartik]

imagine getting out manuevered by joe biden.

"Imagine getting played by these guys."

https://i.imgur.com/HKCNnnj.png

[Kaveh]

A few pages back you boast about "owning" a bunch of stuff, and then now say you have 3k in credit card debt. Do you not have the spare cash to pay that debt off right now? Are you living paycheck to paycheck? How much does that truck payment cost you each month?

This type of lifestyle is terrifying to me. You're one emergency away from total financial ruin.

I mean good on you if you're happy, and I'm sure the house will end up being a good investment, but I just don't understand this being a measure of "success".

I agree with you 100%. When I hit $1 mil net worth I was still driving an old Camry

People like to bitch about money but also think they need an Escalade when they make $60,000 a year.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/43PC92a.png

Says that.

But supports this:

"US Federal Reserve says its goal is ‘to get wages down - employers are having difficulties filling job openings, and wages are rising at the fastest pace in many years,' Powell complained."

[Kaveh]

Trump appointed Powell

Hope this helps

[Jibartik]

Trump appointed Powell

Hope this helps

strawman argument that has nothing to do with the debate, but thanks for turning every single thing into trump?

Not my fault anarchists today support trump and biden at the same time.

Also for you I have two middle fingers, you voted for trump, AND biden.

[robayon]

you don't know what i support at all, do you? you can just keep pretending you do if you want

https://i.imgur.com/7QewKRM.jpeg

[Jibartik]

You support the status quo because you're a post 30 year old anachist.

[Botten]

Pro-tip: get a non-crappy degree from a state school or go to a trade school.

Also lol at them helping the "working class". Yeah white-collar working class. I guess all the blue collars are a bunch of suckers eh?

making $75,000 a year is now white collar? This one is been listening to talk radio too much.

[Reiwa]

making $75,000 a year is now white collar? This one is been listening to talk radio too much.

It refers to the type of labor as formerly indicated by the color of the collar on the shirt.

Spreadsheet monkey =! physical labor.

[Kaveh]

strawman argument that has nothing to do with the debate, but thanks for turning every single thing into trump?

Not my fault anarchists today support trump and biden at the same time.

Also for you I have two middle fingers, you voted for trump, AND biden.

Yeah buddy wait for ‘24

I’m a bellwether like Ohio. Only was wrong in 2004 (sike wrong in ‘08 too)

[Botten]

It refers to the type of labor as formerly indicated by the color of the collar on the shirt.

Spreadsheet monkey =! physical labor.

mid level white collar Salaries (https://www.simplyhired.com/salaries-k-mid-level-white-collar-jobs.html) - $76,661 avg per year

mid level blue collar Salaries (https://www.simplyhired.com/salaries-k-mid-level-blue-collar-jobs.html) - $72,621 avg per year

Looks like red_demonman didn't realize more tech school debt got paid over on average.

The right echo chambers are enraging their cult members again.

[Reiwa]

mid level white collar Salaries (https://www.simplyhired.com/salaries-k-mid-level-white-collar-jobs.html) - $76,661 avg per year

mid level blue collar Salaries (https://www.simplyhired.com/salaries-k-mid-level-blue-collar-jobs.html) - $72,621 avg per year

Looks like red_demonman didn't realize more tech school debt got paid over on average.

The right echo chambers are enraging their cult members again.

What do you take the steeper curve to mean?

[Botten]

What do you take the steeper curve to mean?

specialization - we all can't be special :rolleyes:

[Jibartik]

Yeah buddy wait for ‘24

I’m a bellwether like Ohio. Only was wrong in 2004 (sike wrong in ‘08 too)

based on the performance of your pics, id say you're more like a canary.

[Reiwa]

specialization - we all can't be special :rolleyes:

Hmm if specialization is of greater necessity to blue collar in the scheme, isn't the whole thing backwards?

Need some plumbers to fix this jam.

https://i.imgur.com/tuv8XvH.gif

[Jibartik]

Hmm if specialization is of greater necessity to blue collar in the scheme, isn't the whole thing backwards?

Need some plumbers to fix this jam.

the problem is we outsourced the majority of blue collar jobs, that are not maintenance or service jobs for the highly educated.

Meanwhile we bail out the highly educated by giving 10k checks for every one of them to banks lol

[Reiwa]

the problem is we outsourced the majority of blue collar jobs, that are not maintenance or service jobs for the highly educated.

Meanwhile we bail out the highly educated by giving 10k checks for every one of them to banks lol

I was actually hoping for blake to say something about stomping on goombas. :rolleyes:

[Jibartik]

Sorry :(

[Reiwa]

Sorry :(

Don't be. I was rolling my eyes at myself, as is clearly warranted. :)

[Jibartik]

What political party is it that wants to force all manufacturing back to the USA and to remove corperate personhood, and change it so there are vast limitations on people who own 2 of anything?

Its not communist, because I just want to outlaw disposability and lies and labor exploitation in foreign countries.

But leave everything else unchanged.

Oh also we stop buying oil and disband oil companies and use up the reserves and worry about what to do when we have run out and still haven't invented fusion.

I feel like this is only able to be called: dreamer or, hopeless wisher.

Because it would never happen on this earth.

Of course I am sure they said that about getting rid of the king.

[Mblake1981]

I like to make false comparisons then argue it would be a bad idea.

[Elizondo]

Deadbeat LaBotteny still trying to make excuses for Biden's reparations for rich white people and failing so badly

[Jibartik]

so what we doing to prevent student loans for future kids? Nothing? Ok got it!

[Elizondo]

so what we doing to prevent student loans for future kids? Nothing? Ok got it!

You're assuming Democrats want to create solutions to problem

NXfy910oCiY

[Jibartik]

Every time I see some dumb kid say that student loan relief is tantamount to curing cancer I want to punch.

[unsunghero]

The way to beat inflation is giving everyone money, economic experts say

[Reiwa]

experts say

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Experts

🤪

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/oU0U4US.png

[Patrece]

Why are the "uneducated" so much wiser about taking loans and paying their debts?

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/yj1D6rV.png

[MrSparkle001]

Every time I see some dumb kid say that student loan relief is tantamount to curing cancer I want to punch.

I want to punch whenever they create a false equivalency like "The Polio vaccine isn't fair to everyone that already got Polio" or some other nonsense bullshit.

[robayon]

I want to punch whenever they create a false equivalency like "The Polio vaccine isn't fair to everyone that already got Polio" or some other nonsense bullshit.Wanting to resort to violence when you get shown your ass is peak conservative

[Mblake1981]

Once this kitchen is spotless I am gonna kick your ass manga style.

[MrSparkle001]

Wanting to resort to violence when you get shown your ass is peak conservative

Young people these days need a good ass kicking lol. They're too soft and entitled.

Mandatory military for them. Get this country back on the right track.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScaryKeenBluejay-max-1mb.gif

[Reiwa]

Young people these days need a good ass kicking lol. They're too soft and entitled.

Mandatory military for them. Get this country back on the right track.



Golden oldies. (https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/497289c5-9a7d-4565-950d-01581c92a0b6) :p