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Skarne
08-31-2022, 11:04 AM
Young people these days need a good ass kicking lol. They're too soft and entitled.

Mandatory military for them. Get this country back on the right track.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScaryKeenBluejay-max-1mb.gif

You ever been in the military?

unsunghero
08-31-2022, 11:28 AM
Young people these days need a good ass kicking lol. They're too soft and entitled.

Mandatory military for them. Get this country back on the right track.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScaryKeenBluejay-max-1mb.gif

Yea I’m for this. Obviously not actually serving, just training. Lots of possible benefits, mostly to the youth themselves

Jibartik
08-31-2022, 11:31 AM
I want to punch whenever they create a false equivalency like "The Polio vaccine isn't fair to everyone that already got Polio" or some other nonsense bullshit.

It's so frustrating becuase a bailout for lenders who have students defaulting on loans, is not a bailout for students, or a solution to polio.

The democrats just give so much money to banks its mind boggling.

Ive gotten 2 checks for 1400 from the goverment, my entire life.

unsunghero
08-31-2022, 11:38 AM
I think in lieu of military training every young boy in America could benefit from a coach-figure who instills a respect for authority and discipline

Teachers CANNOT be this. They are completely hamstrung by the Bureaucracy of the school and Karen parents. If a teacher scolds a child, a parent could get them fired. Coaches for some reason have a lot more leeway to be tougher on kids

A good coach would have obedience out of a combination of respect and fear, not just fear. And would also incorporate other lessons like: get good grades to stay on this team, listen to your parents, don’t break the law, etc

robayon
08-31-2022, 11:46 AM
I think in lieu of military training every young boy in America could benefit from a coach-figure who instills a respect for authority and discipline

Teachers CANNOT be this. They are completely hamstrung by the Bureaucracy of the school and Karen parents. If a teacher scolds a child, a parent could get them fired. Coaches for some reason have a lot more leeway to be tougher on kids

A good coach would have obedience out of a combination of respect and fear, not just fear. And would also incorporate other lessons like: get good grades to stay on this team, listen to your parents, don’t break the law, etcYeah I am sure reinventing Hitler youth will go over great as a national policy

This is supposed to be pastors but evangelicals and catholics do a great job at reminding us why this is a terrible idea

Make it martial arts coaches, they're often conservative pedophiles too

Jibartik
08-31-2022, 11:52 AM
Are there people who really think life today is better in general than say live leading up to the pandemic?

Like socially, politically and economically, we're getting better? And that these ideas were trying are working?

unsunghero
08-31-2022, 12:04 PM
Yeah I am sure reinventing Hitler youth will go over great as a national policy

This is supposed to be pastors but evangelicals and catholics do a great job at reminding us why this is a terrible idea

Make it martial arts coaches, they're often conservative pedophiles too

Reiwa
08-31-2022, 12:07 PM
Yeah I am sure reinventing Hitler youth will go over great as a national policy

This is supposed to be pastors but evangelicals and catholics do a great job at reminding us why this is a terrible idea

Make it martial arts coaches, they're often conservative pedophiles too

You realize it was common policy in the 2020 primary yeh?

This is why we don't let you sit with us.

Jibartik
08-31-2022, 12:09 PM
I see no difference between America today and American in 1980 only the icon people who want to get rid of comedy wear support politically.

Nothing else has changed, and as far as I know black lives still dont matter.

Reiwa
08-31-2022, 12:43 PM
tango down? (https://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=228495)

Jibartik
08-31-2022, 12:44 PM
whoah wtf he's gonna need an f-15

Botten
08-31-2022, 02:05 PM
tango down? (https://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=228495)

Guessing Blistig preformed the action from his last visitors.

Disappointing too. He had a good heart.

Ooloo
09-01-2022, 12:04 PM
Aw man, as frustrating as he could be to attempt to talk to I liked rob. Rip rob

Jibartik
09-01-2022, 12:11 PM
Everyone who plays p99 has a good heart!

But seriously what could he have said? He doesn't really ride the lighting.

Toxigen
09-01-2022, 12:22 PM
I'm wondering the same thing.

Kaveh
09-01-2022, 01:30 PM
Yeah that’s a weird ban

Jibartik
09-01-2022, 06:24 PM
Reiwa what happened! You know all and see all.

Reiwa
09-01-2022, 06:51 PM
Reiwa what happened! You know all and see all.

Don't know, it's probably temporary if demeanor counts. :)

MrSparkle001
09-02-2022, 09:38 AM
Don't know, it's probably temporary if demeanor counts. :)

Hopefully. He did nothing wrong IMO.

But what do I know.

Reiwa
09-02-2022, 11:15 AM
Hopefully. He did nothing wrong IMO.

But what do I know.

Red October
(https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/story/news/2022/09/01/united-states-president-joe-biden-could-expand-overtime-millions/7964243001/)🤩

Jibartik
09-02-2022, 04:31 PM
So when the gig economy makes it so you cant work more than 40 hours a week, and people use 2 phones to work 80 hours a week, and still dont get overtime.

Did we solve the problem?

Lune
09-05-2022, 04:07 AM
OP, I make more money than you, was born with more money than you'll ever see in your life, and also lmfao thanks for the tax dollars

Jibartik
09-05-2022, 04:08 AM
The best thing I heard from the fox news karens was when they called all the poor 20 year olds "soon to be wealthy progressives"

I was like HA!

Lune
09-05-2022, 04:09 AM
What I want to see is more loan forgiveness for the poor schmucks that got suckered into those for-profit schools. They're carrying all kinds of debt and have nearly nothing to show for it with "degrees" that aren't worth a thing.

That debt was forgiven

Jibartik
09-05-2022, 04:10 AM
Correction, that debt was bailed to banks for their debtors that were defaulting on their loans.

:o

Patrece
09-05-2022, 04:44 AM
Country's going down the drain after unprecedented economic success under Trump

They used the politicized virus to ruin your futures

Jibartik
09-05-2022, 04:48 AM
it's all good when you know it's supernatural

quido
09-05-2022, 06:31 AM
Now if Biden can eliminate sports from universities, he will be a true American hero.

Ban sports from schools.

Lune
09-05-2022, 10:29 AM
Now if Biden can eliminate sports from universities, he will be a true American hero.

Ban sports from schools.

Couldn't bump your sports thread? what a shame

Lune
09-05-2022, 10:39 AM
Country's going down the drain after unprecedented economic success under Trump

They used the politicized virus to ruin your futures

You know, you can just come out an say it.

"I love and support Donald Trump and nothing he does is wrong"

Like that. Because when you believe something and no information can change your belief, like you people and Trump, facts and events don't matter, so they're not even worth talking about. So you might as well just say that because it's what I and other rational thinkers hear anyway when your cult opens its mouths.

Nibblewitz
09-05-2022, 10:52 AM
The cost of a degree just went up by 10 -20k because of this. As the gov backs more loans and loan "forgiveness" the institutions can just raise their prices knowing they will be paid by the gov.

Botten
09-05-2022, 12:41 PM
The cost of a degree just went up by 10 -20k because of this. As the gov backs more loans and loan "forgiveness" the institutions can just raise their prices knowing they will be paid by the gov.

How do you figure when the college already got paid. This was money students owe to the government and not the college.

But wait when the military pays for your away through college then the college can expect to get paid what they ask.

Current Army policy limits TA to 130 semester hours of undergraduate credit or baccalaureate degree, whichever comes first and 39 semester hours of graduate credit or master's degree whichever comes first. The 39 semester hour limit applies to all credits taken after completion of a baccalaureate degree.

By that logic the cost of a degrees should SKYROCKETS when the military pays for all of it..
But the military tends to turn out more republicans than democrats. Some.. how... I don't think I see republicans changing this anytime soon. Other incentives would be best.

Jibartik
09-05-2022, 12:42 PM
The government should be paying for students to go to school it shouldn’t be paying banks to pay students who don’t pay the banks back.

Nibblewitz
09-05-2022, 03:43 PM
By that logic the cost of a degrees should SKYROCKETS when the military pays for all of it..


Why do you think the cost increases of higher education have tripled the rate of inflation over the last 40 years? When the gov subsidizes it, the price detaches from the market.

Mblake1981
09-05-2022, 03:50 PM
Why do you think the cost increases of higher education have tripled the rate of inflation over the last 40 years? When the gov subsidizes it, the price detaches from the market.

But you are not factoring in the science which shows doing this will help some students in dire need of help, they can save for a downpayment on a new home, new car(s), fresh clothing, eating out, gym memberships, additional education, child care and many other things that stimulate our economy. They all need help and I think you are simply looking at the glass half full.

Today, sir, you need to think about today.

Elizondo
09-05-2022, 03:50 PM
Why do you think the cost increases of higher education have tripled the rate of inflation over the last 40 years? When the gov subsidizes it, the price detaches from the market.

The price of a college tuition is up 1000% since the 1970s

Nibblewitz
09-05-2022, 04:03 PM
Indeed, the price of everything goes up over time naturally through increases in demand. My point is that the price of college has tripled if things 40 years ago cost the same now.

Elizondo
09-05-2022, 04:05 PM
Indeed, the price of everything goes up over time naturally through increases in demand. My point is that the price of college has tripled if things 40 years ago cost the same now.

Curious what the "demand' is for degrees in gender studies that cost 150K

Rethalis
09-05-2022, 04:14 PM
If we are being selective about who gets the college tax dollars can we dig a little deeper and at least assign value to the degree?

Tax payers are funding some of the most nonsensical crap which adds zero value to the country and is probably a net negative. Some of the ideas are actually parasitic for example

There was a small "movement" for a time in the LGBT community called "queers for Palestine" The whole oppressed oppressor flowery marxism in college which often sees Israel as bad and those Palestinians as good because they are oppressed in which these members of the so called queers for Palestine forgot that Israel is the most accepting place in that entire area for gay people.

why does this critical theory nonsense have any federal backing at all?

unsunghero
09-05-2022, 04:28 PM
Curious what the "demand' is for degrees in gender studies that cost 150K

Reiwa
09-05-2022, 04:29 PM
If we are being selective about who gets the college tax dollars can we dig a little deeper and at least assign value to the degree?

Tax payers are funding some of the most nonsensical crap which adds zero value to the country and is probably a net negative. Some of the ideas are actually parasitic for example

There was a small "movement" for a time in the LGBT community called "queers for Palestine" The whole oppressed oppressor flowery marxism in college which often sees Israel as bad and those Palestinians as good because they are oppressed in which these members of the so called queers for Palestine forgot that Israel is the most accepting place in that entire area for gay people.

why does this critical theory nonsense have any federal backing at all?

Isn't it true Post-Marxism has already conquered Europe? Critical theory may just be the tip of the iceberg.

Botten
09-05-2022, 04:50 PM
If we are being selective about who gets the college tax dollars can we dig a little deeper and at least assign value to the degree?

Tax payers are funding some of the most nonsensical crap which adds zero value to the country and is probably a net negative. Some of the ideas are actually parasitic for example

There was a small "movement" for a time in the LGBT community called "queers for Palestine" The whole oppressed oppressor flowery marxism in college which often sees Israel as bad and those Palestinians as good because they are oppressed in which these members of the so called queers for Palestine forgot that Israel is the most accepting place in that entire area for gay people.

why does this critical theory nonsense have any federal backing at all?

Already discussed 90% of those making under 75,000 a year are going to see the relief.

Those in tech/trade schools statically have a better chance at receiving this debt relief.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3499066&postcount=476

AKA it is helping a lot of ppl in the salary range of most MAGA voters.

Rethalis
09-05-2022, 05:06 PM
Already discussed 90% of those making under 75,000 a year are going to see the relief.

Those in tech/trade schools statically have a better chance at receiving this debt relief.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3499066&postcount=476

AKA it is helping a lot of ppl in the salary range of most MAGA voters.

I am not really talking about what people are making now or what they make after college. I am wondering about the value output for the investment from the taxpayers. Someone who has studied classic liberal arts will be a much higher value to themselves and society compared to modern liberal arts like gender studies.

Free college for engineers. Political science, pay for it yourself is kinda of the idea I was getting at.

Elizondo
09-05-2022, 05:09 PM
Botten still shilllin the reparations for rich white liberals

comedy ensues

Rethalis
09-05-2022, 05:10 PM
Isn't it true Post-Marxism has already conquered Europe? Critical theory may just be the tip of the iceberg.

Of course, why is it in the public realm you have all this "cancelling" going around when anybody starts digging a little deeper than the tip.

Jibartik
09-05-2022, 05:51 PM
Already discussed 90% of those making under 75,000 a year are going to see the relief.

*EGH WRONG BUZZER*

90% of loans people are defaulting on banks are getting a bailout for.

Patrece
09-05-2022, 05:52 PM
People here dont realize that printing more money or giving hand outs just makes the economy worse. Yes, this horrible economy is going to get worse.

If you have anything saved for retirement, its going to take a nose dive. Far, far, far, far more in the long run than any 10k "debt relief" which will be taxed as income will do for you. You got suckered hard.

Rethalis
09-05-2022, 05:55 PM
People here dont realize that printing more money or giving hand outs just makes the economy worse. Yes, this horrible economy is going to get worse.

If you have anything saved for retirement, its going to take a nose dive. Far, far, far, far more in the long run than any 10k "debt relief" which will be taxed as income will do for you. You got suckered hard.

inflation only happens because of the government.

Jibartik
09-05-2022, 06:11 PM
8 paper towels was $27.50 lol

unsunghero
09-05-2022, 09:48 PM
..

Rethalis
09-05-2022, 09:51 PM
^^^^^

Whats funny is accreditation is built upon the foundation of somebody doing the work in the first place...

Reiwa
09-05-2022, 10:37 PM
10k "debt relief" which will be taxed as income will do for you.

How is that Brandon's fault dumbdumb?

unsunghero
09-05-2022, 11:17 PM
Just realized that Rob guy got banned WTF

I’ll hit him up in game sometime and ask about it if I can remember what he said his char name was

Just as an FYI, I have never and will never report anything I hear on any forum

https://i.ibb.co/MpPfsrb/8236-CD72-60-D9-4946-AD29-8-A57-BAE033-E3.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

unsunghero
09-05-2022, 11:27 PM
10k "debt relief" which will be taxed as income

Reiwa
09-06-2022, 12:01 AM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18639&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1662434845

Half prize and marginal tax rates. Cute meme though. :p

MrSparkle001
09-06-2022, 11:15 AM
But you are not factoring in the science which shows doing this will help some students in dire need of help, they can save for a downpayment on a new home, new car(s), fresh clothing, eating out, gym memberships, additional education, child care and many other things that stimulate our economy. They all need help and I think you are simply looking at the glass half full.

Today, sir, you need to think about today.

The issue is that it doesn't solve the problem of higher education being so expensive in the first place. It's a feel-good bandaid before the midterms. It will help some people yes but what about students that haven't graduated yet? Can they also get 10k of relief when they graduate in 2023 or 2024?

It's not unlike developing a cure for cancer but only some people 18 and over as of right now can get it. You're turning 18 next year or some time after? Nope no cure for cancer for you.

Jibartik
09-06-2022, 11:21 AM
How is that Brandon's fault dumbdumb?

Because it’s his stupid idea?

Mblake1981
09-06-2022, 11:40 AM
The issue is that it doesn't solve the problem of higher education being so expensive in the first place. It's a feel-good bandaid before the midterms. It will help some people yes but what about students that haven't graduated yet? Can they also get 10k of relief when they graduate in 2023 or 2024?

It's not unlike developing a cure for cancer but only some people 18 and over as of right now can get it. You're turning 18 next year or some time after? Nope no cure for cancer for you.

There is no need to be a wet blanket, if you would just look at the deep science and the very important people who agree, I think you will change your mind and see this for the true economic-boon it is. Come, join us as we turn the page of history and use this as the launch pad to make this country great again.

Reiwa
09-06-2022, 12:08 PM
Because it’s his stupid idea?

Forgiveness yes, state income taxes no.

Jibartik
09-06-2022, 12:11 PM
Forgiveness yes, state income taxes no.

yes the stupid idea, that resulted in people being taxed by states.

not to mention only gave money to banks

"forgiveness" stop using that gustappo propganda shit call it what it is, the bank bailout for defaulted student loans.

They didn't call it "mortgage relief" when they bailed out the banks when people defaulted on their homes.

Reiwa
09-06-2022, 12:17 PM
yes the stupid idea, that resulted in people being taxed by states.

Sine qua non.

Elizondo
09-06-2022, 12:20 PM
Forgiveness yes, state income taxes no.

It's not 'forgiveness'. It's redistribution of responsibility.

Hope that helps

Jibartik
09-06-2022, 12:25 PM
80k IRS agents, the ironically students find out they're getting a new tax.

Funny how that works out.

Reiwa
09-06-2022, 12:32 PM
It's not 'forgiveness'. It's redistribution of responsibility.

Hope that helps

Jib already explained it for me. 🤫

Jibartik
09-06-2022, 12:38 PM
Yeah to be more specirfic, its not redistribution of responsibility.

it's generating cash out of thin air

the bank writes down that they give you money they never give you, the bank writes down that they gave the school money they never gave them, and the school gets to exchange that writing into cash freshly minted from the FED.

And then when that cash never trickles down to the students the say they cant pay for all those numbers the bank was excahnging between parties.

And so the bank asks the goverment for them to create new dollars, to cover the fake ones the bank created that needed to be paid back by someone who cant (or doesn't want to).

So really, it's just a gigantic money printing scheme, by the 1%

Botten
09-06-2022, 01:18 PM
Yeah to be more specirfic, its not redistribution of responsibility.

it's generating cash out of thin air

the bank writes down that they give you money they never give you, the bank writes down that they gave the school money they never gave them, and the school gets to exchange that writing into cash freshly minted from the FED.

And then when that cash never trickles down to the students the say they cant pay for all those numbers the bank was excahnging between parties.

And so the bank asks the goverment for them to create new dollars, to cover the fake ones the bank created that needed to be paid back by someone who cant (or doesn't want to).

So really, it's just a gigantic money printing scheme, by the 1%

Like the youth haven't already bailed out the baby boomers enough. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Yg4qTCPno)

MrSparkle001
09-06-2022, 01:22 PM
There is no need to be a wet blanket, if you would just look at the deep science and the very important people who agree, I think you will change your mind and see this for the true economic-boon it is. Come, join us as we turn the page of history and use this as the launch pad to make this country great again.

Yes, join us all the way to the voting booths :D Who wants free money?? Come vote for it!

red_demonman
09-06-2022, 01:51 PM
Heart of the issue : it is not the taxpayer's responsibility to pay for people's degree loans.

You saw how much that loan was when you signed up for it.

Making arguments that money was wasted bailing out other stupid stuff is a dumb argument. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Mblake1981
09-06-2022, 01:55 PM
Yes, join us all the way to the voting booths :D Who wants free money?? Come vote for it!

I find your fresh attitude to be preposterous, society is in dire need of better funding for education and takes like this are a perfect example why. Kids like you will understand when you get older.

Elizondo
09-06-2022, 01:59 PM
I find your fresh attitude to be preposterous, society is in dire need of better funding for education and takes like this are a perfect example why. Kids like you will understand when you get older.

I'm loving your sarcasm. Keep it up.

18646

MrSparkle001
09-06-2022, 02:01 PM
I find your fresh attitude to be preposterous, society is in dire need of better funding for education and takes like this are a perfect example why. Kids like you will understand when you get older.

You're right though that we need better funding for education.

Or to put it another way: Make it damned cheaper.

I've been done with college for over 20 years now so it doesn't affect me, but these kids have to pay an arm and a leg for a degree now. And why? Because it's big business.

Gustoo
09-06-2022, 03:06 PM
You can get a welding certificate for like 1500 dollars of part time community college and then make over 100k a year welding

Let alone if you so 4 years and become journeyman in the ironworkers union.

Not that expensive just not popular.

Everyone told the kids to go to college so they went and found no jobs.

unsunghero
09-06-2022, 03:29 PM
You can get a welding certificate for like 1500 dollars of part time community college and then make over 100k a year welding

Let alone if you so 4 years and become journeyman in the ironworkers union.

Not that expensive just not popular.

Everyone told the kids to go to college so they went and found no jobs.

Yup

Also, if someone is set on college, these are questions they should be asking:

- What are the available jobs for this degree, and will the education still be relevant in the field a few years from now? When the IT field was rapidly progressing, I was hearing about how programming classes were still using outdated languages, for example

- what sort of reputation does the college have for your field of interest? Some colleges have a great reputation for a particular field and a bad reputation in others

- When considering what the field of work will be like, is this based off what the college is telling you or what you read online, or are you actually going to the businesses and agencies in the field and asking what they are looking for from their employees? Are you asking employees what working there is like?

- How far out is the break even point where based on your expected income you can expect to have paid off your student loan and begin making profits?


If someone covers these bases even paying overpriced college tuition they should be ok. If they don’t that’s on them. They’re grown ass adults who made a bad decision with their money. If I decide to drop $50k in a Vegas casino I can’t expect to go crying to daddy Government to pay them

Lastly, are you an emotionally-functionable professional? There are as many people at my work who have gotten fired not because they were unqualified or cut corners, but because they could not work with other people without blowing up on their boss or co-workers because they had the emotional intelligence of a 14 year old. This is also on you to fix, not daddy government. “I can’t pay off my student loans because I can’t maintain a job” doesn’t always mean “I picked the wrong degree”

Jibartik
09-06-2022, 03:52 PM
Everyone told the kids to go to college so--

--they could rack up massive amounts of cash selling them literally nothing for huge fee's because the money was "invisible", and the people just ate it up

and then when anyone points this out this solution is to give money to the crooks that took them for a ride in the first place, the same people that god suckered get all pissed off at you.

MrSparkle001
09-06-2022, 03:53 PM
Yup

Also, if someone is set on college, these are questions they should be asking:

- What are the available jobs for this degree, and will the education still be relevant in the field a few years from now? When the IT field was rapidly progressing, I was hearing about how programming classes were still using outdated languages, for example

- what sort of reputation does the college have for your field of interest? Some colleges have a great reputation for a particular field and a bad reputation in others

- When considering what the field of work will be like, is this based off what the college is telling you or what you read online, or are you actually going to the businesses and agencies in the field and asking what they are looking for from their employees? Are you asking employees what working there is like?

- How far out is the break even point where based on your expected income you can expect to have paid off your student loan and begin making profits?


If someone covers these bases even paying overpriced college tuition they should be ok. If they don’t that’s on them. They’re grown ass adults who made a bad decision with their money. If I decide to drop $50k in a Vegas casino I can’t expect to go crying to daddy Government to pay them

Lastly, are you an emotionally-functionable professional? There are as many people at my work who have gotten fired not because they were unqualified or cut corners, but because they could not work with other people without blowing up on their boss or co-workers because they had the emotional intelligence of a 14 year old. This is also on you to fix, not daddy government. “I can’t pay off my student loans because I can’t maintain a job” doesn’t always mean “I picked the wrong degree”

So you're saying no Gender Studies degree. Got it.

https://i.redd.it/6ips5w0dnee21.jpg

Gatordash
09-06-2022, 04:38 PM
So you're saying no Gender Studies degree. Got it.

https://i.redd.it/6ips5w0dnee21.jpg

She's hot. She'll be fine.

Elizondo
09-06-2022, 04:54 PM
She's hot. She'll be fine.

Sucker born every minute

unsunghero
09-06-2022, 05:03 PM
So you're saying no Gender Studies degree. Got it.

https://i.redd.it/6ips5w0dnee21.jpg

Lol the girl I’m dating actually has an art history undergrad degree. She already admitted that it’s not useful and now works as a home appraiser not using her degree

Jibartik
09-06-2022, 05:46 PM
I literally remember when the establishment was saying how Europe takes a year off after highschool before college was lazy and dumb haha then their teenage kids with no life experience pick a carrier to invest a life's savings into lol

Homesteaded
09-07-2022, 08:39 AM
I've been grinding away at my CS Degree as an adult. My work pays for most of it. I suspect the issue is two-fold, people take out these massive loans for degrees that are fruitless while at the same time refusing to work and pay for school as they go. Instead they maintain their standard of living through parental subsidies (bad idea).

I work in the grocery business and it's astonishing the flip that has occurred in the last few years, these jobs have been traditionally filled by young people. Now most of the grocery store workers are old folks. This trend can be seen in nearly all service industry roles.

Mblake1981
09-07-2022, 09:06 AM
--they could rack up massive amounts of cash selling them literally nothing for huge fee's because the money was "invisible", and the people just ate it up

and then when anyone points this out this solution is to give money to the crooks that took them for a ride in the first place, the same people that god suckered get all pissed off at you.

Feeling both guilty and thrilled at the same time is an intoxicating mixture.

MrSparkle001
09-07-2022, 09:39 AM
I've been grinding away at my CS Degree as an adult. My work pays for most of it. I suspect the issue is two-fold, people take out these massive loans for degrees that are fruitless while at the same time refusing to work and pay for school as they go. Instead they maintain their standard of living through parental subsidies (bad idea).

I work in the grocery business and it's astonishing the flip that has occurred in the last few years, these jobs have been traditionally filled by young people. Now most of the grocery store workers are old folks. This trend can be seen in nearly all service industry roles.

I'm noticing that too, as a grocery shopper. There are more older retired people working those jobs than ever. They're bored, they want a little extra spending money so they're willing to wake up early and go work those jobs.

Young people, in general, do not want to work those same jobs. I don't know why exactly. I have my suspicions like videogame addictions and enabling by parents but I don't know.

Mblake1981
09-07-2022, 10:41 AM
I'm noticing that too, as a grocery shopper. There are more older retired people working those jobs than ever. They're bored, they want a little extra spending money so they're willing to wake up early and go work those jobs.

Their savings was probably wiped out and that job will take them.

Edit: I am old, bored and everything hurts. Think I will go work at the local grocery store where the shelves are above my head and my shoulders won't lift that high anymore and the bottom shelves are low and my knees don't bend that way anymore. I want to put up with entitled people, assholes, crying-messy children and the scum of society.. for something to do. Physical labor keeps the blood moving. I really like the fast moving pace of "now now now" and "i am always wrong".

Young people, in general, do not want to work those same jobs. I don't know why exactly. I have my suspicions like videogame addictions and enabling by parents but I don't know.

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Jibartik
09-07-2022, 12:14 PM
Define old and working at a grocery store though.

Like obviously if someone was bidens age and shape, and working at a grocery store we'd agree that was elder abuse but look he can flawlessly run a country.

He hasn't got us embroiled in any world wars, or given billions ot the taliban on accident, or accidentally drone struck a car full of kids and teachers, or got 13 Americans killed by hamfisting an evacuation without any planning, or transferred 2 trillion to the 1% in 2 years or reduced my spending power by 40% or.....

Mblake1981
09-07-2022, 12:38 PM
Define old and working at a grocery store though.

Next stop Wal-Mart greeter. If you were good, one of the local Chic-Fil-A's will take you in to check on customers
and refill their drinks.

Jibartik
09-07-2022, 12:40 PM
imagine being 90 and not able to raid because you have to go work at chic-fil-a

Mblake1981
09-07-2022, 12:44 PM
imagine being 90 and not able to raid because you have to go work at chic-fil-a

Don't have to imagine when you see it already.

Jibartik
09-07-2022, 12:48 PM
A recession is when your neighbor looses his job a depression is when you do.

Mblake1981
09-07-2022, 12:49 PM
Remember to sanitize.

Jibartik
09-07-2022, 12:50 PM
Welcome to Costco. I love you.

Mblake1981
09-07-2022, 12:58 PM
Home of the $1.50 hot dogs, large 16:9 flat panel televisions and jumbo rolls of tissue paper.

unsunghero
09-07-2022, 01:33 PM
Young people, in general, do not want to work those same jobs. I don't know why exactly. I have my suspicions like videogame addictions and enabling by parents but I don't know.

People just don’t want to work in general these days. All over in my field agencies are doing hiring bonuses, bonuses to refer someone who gets hired, and “retention” bonuses, and it’s not helping

Now if someone signs up for counseling, which used to have like a 1 week wait, it’s more like a 3 month wait. A lot of clinics aren’t even taking new patients

And when you’re short on employees, everyone else has to pick up the slack. So we are just getting crapped on

How are all these lazy non-working people surviving is what I want to know

Homesteaded
09-07-2022, 01:37 PM
How are all these lazy non-working people surviving is what I want to know

Truly, I don't understand how it works. Maybe someone here who is willing to admit they received government benefits recently could shine some light on this. I suspect there are more than a few lazy slobs who fit the bill in the p99 crowd, along with the young and handsome lawyers/doctors we have.

unsunghero
09-07-2022, 01:41 PM
Truly, I don't understand how it works. Maybe someone here who is willing to admit they received government benefits recently could shine some light on this. I suspect there are more than a few lazy slobs who fit the bill in the p99 crowd, along with the young and handsome lawyers/doctors we have.

My cousin works at a physical therapy clinic and he said they are so short staffed they are doing a $30,000 hiring bonus just for getting hired there and they still can’t fill all the positions

I’m assuming either people are taking advantage of the gov’t or just staying with mom and dad until their parents die in which case they are gonna be screwed

MrSparkle001
09-07-2022, 03:42 PM
I’m assuming either people are taking advantage of the gov’t or just staying with mom and dad until their parents die in which case they are gonna be screwed

I think a lot of it is mom and dad. There are 20-somethings that come into my office that don't even know about making appointments and had their mom drive them.

Like seriously dude, you're fucking 25 wearing a dumpy t-shirt and sandals and having mommy drive you around like you're 10.

Ooloo
09-07-2022, 04:56 PM
It's definitely mom and dad, which makes sense to an extent. If you're a parent and your 20 or even 30-something kid doesn't want to work, what are you gonna do? Let them die on the street? Probably not. So there's some kind of familial arrangement, or they get into a never-ending cycle of "going back to school" at a cheap in-state community college, or they *do* work but only at a minimum wage dead end job that pays at least enough to get by week to week, so they can feasibly continue existing but you aren't gonna see them applying to any jobs that require a specialization.

unsunghero
09-07-2022, 08:07 PM
,,,

Jibartik
09-07-2022, 09:06 PM
People just don’t want to work in general these days.

video games

twitch

social media

fame

fortune

vacations

jet ski's

drones

wing suits

go pro

youtube videos of all that

why would anyone work in this country?

Its like we live in modern version of Caligula's Rome.

Just watch gladiators fuck all day and get drunk on wine in iron mugs.

Nibblewitz
09-07-2022, 09:44 PM
good times create weak people

weak people create hard times

hard times create strong people

strong people create good times

Jibartik
09-07-2022, 11:05 PM
There are actual people today that think that's fascism talking nibblewitz.

There are others that would say that's weak people talking though :o

Reiwa
09-08-2022, 12:46 AM
good times create weak people

weak people create hard times

hard times create strong people

strong people create good times

Hard men create good times.

unsunghero
09-08-2022, 02:54 AM
Hard men create good times.

Encroaching Death
09-09-2022, 06:18 AM
So the Working Class is bailing out the latte-sipping Middle Class?

Damn, Marx might've been onto something, that Commie bastard.

GinnasP99
09-09-2022, 07:32 AM
Anyone care to explain why a bottle of mouthwash is 9 fucking dollars ?

Encroaching Death
09-09-2022, 07:49 AM
Anyone care to explain why a bottle of mouthwash is 9 fucking dollars ?

That's a GOOD thing. It means the economy is healing.

Go back to sleep, citizen.

Elizondo
09-09-2022, 09:13 AM
Anyone care to explain why a bottle of mouthwash is 9 fucking dollars ?

Biden

Tethler
09-10-2022, 10:44 AM
Biden

Bidet

Jibartik
09-10-2022, 12:20 PM
What lessons are we learning from this economic catastrophe, if any?

I dont mean us, we already knew the system was a complete joke.

But I mean, what about people who support this system, what is it that broke this time and how can you prevent it from happening in the future?

unsunghero
09-10-2022, 08:27 PM
,.,

Encroaching Death
09-10-2022, 08:32 PM
Can you blame universities though? They can legally defraud teenagers. Sounds like the best job ever.

branamil
09-10-2022, 09:07 PM
no surprise a bunch of underemployed diabetic fat men who work as gas station janitors and best buy geek squad repairmen hate anything having to do with education. Stay bitter, elf enjoyers

branamil
09-10-2022, 09:11 PM
Anyone care to explain why a bottle of mouthwash is 9 fucking dollars ?

I mean it's $1.99 on amazon right now. Probably cheaper at whatever dump you shop at like Piggly Wiggly. I'm actually surprised you would need that, you're probably missing teeth. But despite you failing math and dental hygiene, some things are more expensive now because JPow printed about $7 trillion dollars out of thin air over the last few years and now the government has a vested interest in pretending they have no idea what could have caused this.

GinnasP99
09-10-2022, 09:19 PM
^bot

Reiwa
09-10-2022, 09:21 PM
no surprise a bunch of underemployed diabetic fat men who work as gas station janitors and best buy geek squad repairmen hate anything having to do with education. Stay bitter, elf enjoyers

I mean it's $1.99 on amazon right now. Probably cheaper at whatever dump you shop at like Piggly Wiggly. I'm actually surprised you would need that, you're probably missing teeth. But despite you failing math and dental hygiene, some things are more expensive now because JPow printed about $7 trillion dollars out of thin air over the last few years and now the government has a vested interest in pretending they have no idea what could have caused this.

I miss the days when the left didn't spit on the poor.

Parties flipped :p

Encroaching Death
09-10-2022, 09:25 PM
no surprise a bunch of underemployed diabetic fat men who work as gas station janitors and best buy geek squad repairmen hate anything having to do with education. Stay bitter, elf enjoyers

Yeah, because claiming college is expensive is definitely a sign you hate education...

unsunghero
09-10-2022, 09:29 PM
I miss the days when the left didn't spit on the poor.

Parties flipped :p

Remember when they were the party of the “working class”?

Really I can just keep pasting chortles meme as a response to every attempt at credentialism fallacy arguments:

Jibartik
09-10-2022, 11:10 PM
"Just have a corporation ship you a bottle of tooth paste from china in a van you fucking idiot."
-a liberal

branamil
09-10-2022, 11:23 PM
"Just have a corporation ship you a bottle of tooth paste from china in a van you fucking idiot."
-a liberal

Literally..... yes? Except the china part, what's the problem?. Go to your bathroom right now and tell me where yours is from (although you washing your mouth would be surprising.) i gaurantee it's not Gyna. No surprise you're economically illiterate. :)

branamil
09-10-2022, 11:33 PM
So #1 jimmy rustler for conservatives right now is their fellow citizens learning from books

A close second is oral hygiene

Lmfao

unsunghero
09-10-2022, 11:58 PM
So I hear you guys hate learning

Straw Man Proposals: how to intentionally misrepresent a position so it’s easier to defeat COM202

He’s pulling from his degree here boys

Jibartik
09-11-2022, 12:55 AM
Literally..... yes? Except the china part, what's the problem?. Go to your bathroom right now and tell me where yours is from (although you washing your mouth would be surprising.) i gaurantee it's not Gyna. No surprise you're economically illiterate. :)

I put it into the cart of other 500 items when I make 1 trip to the store in my compact hibrid electric vehicle.

No thanks for being the root of our climate change problem.

Rethalis
09-11-2022, 02:00 AM
Libs - "college is so important"

Also Libs - "reading, writing, and math is not important" (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9879959/Oregon-scraps-requirement-high-school-students-prove-proficiency-math-reading-writing.html)

unsunghero
09-11-2022, 02:15 AM
,,,

MrSparkle001
09-12-2022, 02:01 PM
Libs - "college is so important"

Also Libs - "reading, writing, and math is not important" (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9879959/Oregon-scraps-requirement-high-school-students-prove-proficiency-math-reading-writing.html)

Are you sure that's not an Onion or Babylon Bee article?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Tf310Fi4pnQVYS6r4L/200.gif

Encroaching Death
09-12-2022, 02:48 PM
Are you sure that's not an Onion or Babylon Bee article?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Tf310Fi4pnQVYS6r4L/200.gif

I tried to warn everyone. This is what happens when we let women out of the kitchen.

Why do you think they were also barefoot and pregnant? Harder to run away.

Revoke the 19th

Rethalis
09-12-2022, 07:40 PM
its hard to differentiate between the bee and onion from real news anymore.

unsunghero
09-13-2022, 03:49 PM
,,..

Jibartik
09-13-2022, 04:38 PM
LOL

Encroaching Death
09-14-2022, 06:34 AM
https://media.patriots.win/post/GpoyI4XkJSj6.png

Jibartik
09-14-2022, 11:42 AM
https://media.patriots.win/post/GpoyI4XkJSj6.png

The right can meme...

Everything in society has flipped.

fAcYS-_8L2s

Timothy_Colwell
09-29-2022, 04:22 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-biden-announces-student-loan-forgiveness/story?id=88736949



https://eduzaurus.com/free-essay-samples/just-mercy/l

Maybe Biden's student policy leaves a lot to be desired, but I think education is very important for everyone and it should remain accessible no matter what. That's why I think students should be able to work and study in the best possible way. Does anyone agree?

Castle2.0
09-29-2022, 07:17 AM
This forum is getting worse with spammers ^

Botten
09-29-2022, 07:52 AM
This forum is getting worse with spammers ^

Says the Bitcoin advertiser.

Domo
09-29-2022, 08:42 AM
Maybe Biden's student policy leaves a lot to be desired, but I think education is very important for everyone and it should remain accessible no matter what. That's why I think students should be able to work and study in the best possible way. Does anyone agree?

I agree. education is an important pillar/foundation of every healthy society.

Reiwa
09-29-2022, 12:20 PM
Maybe Biden's student policy leaves a lot to be desired, but I think education is very important for everyone and it should remain accessible no matter what. That's why I think students should be able to work and study in the best possible way. Does anyone agree?

👀

Jibartik
09-29-2022, 12:21 PM
education is important people that are educated are smart. That’s why all the people that have education are asking the government to help them pay for their debt they have for their 4 year rumspringah because they didn’t learn how to manage or make money the whole time.

Encroaching Death
09-29-2022, 03:51 PM
I say we have a reset.

It'll be great, I promise

Homesteaded
09-29-2022, 04:03 PM
I say we have a reset.

It'll be great, I promise

Who's building the Ark this time?

Jibartik
09-29-2022, 04:20 PM
Alex Jones

Basanos
09-29-2022, 05:38 PM
Who's building the Ark this time?Greta Thunberg

Mblake1981
09-29-2022, 05:42 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2ajwaD5.jpg

Kaveh
09-29-2022, 08:44 PM
Alex Jones

Greta Thunberg

If those are the two progenitors of the human race, we’re gonna be really fucking ugly in the future

unsunghero
09-30-2022, 04:49 AM

Reiwa
09-30-2022, 11:59 AM
How Do You Challenge A Student Loan Forgiveness Rule That Does Not Exist? (https://reason.com/volokh/2022/09/30/how-do-you-challenge-a-student-loan-forgiveness-rule-that-does-not-exist/)

The Biden Administration keeps moving the goal posts to block legal challenges.

Kaveh
10-02-2022, 12:39 PM
How Do You Challenge A Student Loan Forgiveness Rule That Does Not Exist? (https://reason.com/volokh/2022/09/30/how-do-you-challenge-a-student-loan-forgiveness-rule-that-does-not-exist/)

Yeah it’s dumb. It isn’t clear that he has the legal authority to do this

Imperial presidency SAD BIGLY. Also lol @ you reading reason, you a libertarian now? You gonna join me in ending EMTALA ?

Jibartik
10-02-2022, 12:48 PM
Imperial presidency

its almost like theyre working together, and setting precedents for each other to each time take us farther and farther down the rabbit holes

Reiwa
10-02-2022, 12:54 PM
Yeah it’s dumb. It isn’t clear that he has the legal authority to do this

Imperial presidency SAD BIGLY. Also lol @ you reading reason, you a libertarian now? You gonna join me in ending EMTALA ?

I like court stuff so volokh for court stuff. It's so sassy. :p

Haven't knowingly looked at the rest.

Basanos
10-03-2022, 08:30 AM
why did the bot edit its post

magnetaress
10-03-2022, 08:36 AM
Everyone is a loser. So if you benefit from the government (you don't) you'r a loser still. Same was true in 2017 and will be again in 25.

Encroaching Death
10-03-2022, 08:41 AM
Interesting information regarding Biden's actions. I don't even know how to feel about it. I want to say one thing - the value of education is very underestimated. It was correctly said here that education is the basis of a healthy society, and no matter what difficulties there are in the way of obtaining it, one must strive for education. And guys like the online paper writing service (https://www.bestessay.com/) exist for this to simplify the educational process. Good luck to everyone and more good news.

Hey Sindy, what's your favorite class in EQ?

Do you know what EQ is?

Encroaching Death
10-03-2022, 08:49 AM
Make a grand announcement that you plan to forgive student loans and then quietly retract it later.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/29/politics/biden-student-loan-forgiveness-plan-lawsuit/index.html

And that's how you get credit for something you didn't even do in politics.

There will be people years from now saying "Remember when Biden forgave student loans? He was such a good president", when it never even happened.

Jibartik
10-03-2022, 12:45 PM
"Now that I dont have this debt to worry about, I can focus on my career."
*gets 130k a year clerk position.
*dies many many years later having done nothing for society

Reiwa
10-03-2022, 12:47 PM
Make a grand announcement that you plan to forgive student loans and then quietly retract it later.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/29/politics/biden-student-loan-forgiveness-plan-lawsuit/index.html

And that's how you get credit for something you didn't even do in politics.

There will be people years from now saying "Remember when Biden forgave student loans? He was such a good president", when it never even happened.

A tepid offering made to draw this very result. Now it's on record.

Encroaching Death
10-03-2022, 01:04 PM
A tepid offering made to draw this very result. Now it's on record.

(old man emoji) (ice cream cone emoji)

Elizondo
10-03-2022, 01:09 PM
All Dims have to do is tell their dumb as rocks voters they did something that never happened and the idiots will eat it up like slop

Basanos
10-03-2022, 01:14 PM
All Dims have to do is tell their dumb as rocks voters they did something that never happened and the idiots will eat it up like slopyeah, like "drain the swamp"

Elizondo
10-03-2022, 01:23 PM
yeah, like "drain the swamp"

He never claimed he accomplished that

Speaking of people dumb as rocks ..

Kaveh
10-03-2022, 01:40 PM
Well if he doesn’t accomplish what he said he would by all means let’s anoint him MAGA king

Kaveh
10-03-2022, 01:42 PM
A tepid offering made to draw this very result. Now it's on record.

I’m not gonna read any of these articles because I couldn’t care less about student loan forgiveness. It’s a stupid policy that makes education more expensive and is wealth transfer to the upper middle class when the state is already bankrupt.

Can you summarize? Did debt relief get reduced in terms of the maximum payout, or are fewer people going to receive it?

Encroaching Death
10-03-2022, 01:44 PM
Trump ending TPP was worth it all :cool:

Basanos
10-03-2022, 01:44 PM
He never claimed he accomplished that

Speaking of people dumb as rocks ..When I make them backpedal, they lash out because they can't think of a retort that allows them to retain dignity.

Never fails.

I wonder if this is Elizondo laughing hysterically or being embarrassed, the two emotions he claims to experience other than futile rage

Elizondo
10-03-2022, 01:48 PM
When I make them backpedal, they lash out because they can't think of a retort that allows them to retain dignity.

Never fails.

I wonder if this is Elizondo laughing hysterically or being embarrassed, the two emotions he claims to experience other than futile rage

You're embarrassing yourself

Maybe you need another self imposed exile

Basanos
10-03-2022, 01:55 PM
You're embarrassing yourself

Maybe you need another self imposed exile"Plz go away Rob I can't handle it"

Get your shit together, untuck that tail

Elizondo
10-03-2022, 02:04 PM
"Plz go away Rob I can't handle it"

Get your shit together, untuck that tail

lol dude

Keep posting. It's pure comedy. You're obviously triggered.

Basanos
10-03-2022, 02:11 PM
Embarrassed, then laughing. As if on cue. Learn some new moves!

If we could bottle right wing outrage, we'd have no need for the sun

Elizondo
10-03-2022, 03:29 PM
Embarrassed, then laughing. As if on cue. Learn some new moves!

If we could bottle right wing outrage, we'd have no need for the sun

lol dude

I'm just laughing at how pathetic your posting is since you came back after running away

0Zp03hDDMuw

Basanos
10-03-2022, 03:36 PM
uhh Clubber Lang lost the fight at the end of Rocky 3 iirc, he lost his temper

A telling choice of video snippet, thanks for the insight

Elizondo
10-03-2022, 03:53 PM
uhh Clubber Lang lost the fight at the end of Rocky 3 iirc, he lost his temper

A telling choice of video snippet, thanks for the insight

Basanos thinks he Rocky

Comedy ensues

Basanos
10-03-2022, 03:57 PM
^ Corncobbing ^

Encroaching Death
10-03-2022, 04:02 PM
4Zs4yxkRI6U

Jibartik
10-03-2022, 04:05 PM
yeah, like "drain the swamp"

He did, and all the sludge went to the DNC.

Follow the shaman.

Not the colonizers.

magnetaress
10-03-2022, 05:30 PM
If they sent me to debtors prison they may as well just put me down.

hobart
10-19-2022, 08:32 PM
My daughter attends a 4-year university on the west coast. She graduates next semester. I pay for school and basic living expenses and she has had a part-time job for the extras.

About a year ago she got into an exclusive program within her major and stopped working part time due to workload, but decided she didn't want to give up the extras. So she took out school loans as opposed to cutting back on luxuries.

I just found out about this today. Long story short, she'll graduate with just $2,500 in debt once the forgiveness process is approved. Thanks for $10K worth of lattes, yoga, nails, etc., America. She appreciates it.

Elizondo
10-19-2022, 09:07 PM
My daughter attends a 4-year university on the west coast. She graduates next semester. I pay for school and basic living expenses and she has had a part-time job for the extras.

About a year ago she got into an exclusive program within her major and stopped working part time due to workload, but decided she didn't want to give up the extras. So she took out school loans as opposed to cutting back on luxuries.

I just found out about this today. Long story short, she'll graduate with just $2,500 in debt once the forgiveness process is approved. Thanks for $10K worth of lattes, yoga, nails, etc., America. She appreciates it.

Yea whatever Deadbeat

hobart
10-19-2022, 09:16 PM
Yea whatever Deadbeat

I'll pay way more in federal taxes this year than you'll earn, you deplorable piece of shit.

And I think the whole thing is a sham, but thanks for playing.

magnetaress
10-19-2022, 09:19 PM
The last thing we need is the state subsidizing college. And more corrupt licensing industries and schemes.

Regular jobs should pay more. And less jobs should require degrees. More ppl should learn on the job and get paid for it.. instead of having colleges or companies stealing their work as unpaid students..interns or slaves.. Gg.

hobart
10-19-2022, 09:28 PM
The last thing we need is the state subsidizing college. And more corrupt licensing industries and schemes.

Regular jobs should pay more. And less jobs should require degrees. More ppl should learn on the job and get paid for it.. instead of having colleges or companies stealing their work as unpaid students..interns or slaves.. Gg.

Its worse. The state subsidizes living expenses while you go to college. A huge chunk of the debt goes to living expenses.

It's like welfare, but with zero qualification or oversight.

Elizondo
10-19-2022, 09:29 PM
I'll pay way more in federal taxes this year than you'll earn, you deplorable piece of shit.

And I think the whole thing is a sham, but thanks for playing.

Yea whatever Deadbeat

l0053g0053
10-19-2022, 09:29 PM
I am small time so owed around 12,000 total after college. My payment was so small and deferred for years, so glad to potentially have it removed. For anyone 100k+ in debt, its a pointless gesture.

Glad its gone for me, (if it passes) since it was basically a $45 tax every month.

I had no help from family or anything, so the golden spoon wasn't an option, so I am glad loans were an option.

I do like how individuals over 125k or married couples over 250k cant claim. I mean, that is sort of a snaffu though, since you have situations where parents are paying for their kids already, but the children are the ones with the income proof issue.

Oh well, cry about it unless its benefitting you in some way lol. :p

Reiwa
10-19-2022, 09:38 PM
I am small time so owed around 12,000 total after college. My payment was so small and deferred for years, so glad to potentially have it removed. For anyone 100k+ in debt, its a pointless gesture.

Glad its gone for me, (if it passes) since it was basically a $45 tax every month.

I had no help from family or anything, so the golden spoon wasn't an option, so I am glad loans were an option.

I do like how individuals over 125k or married couples over 250k cant claim. I mean, that is sort of a snaffu though, since you have situations where parents are paying for their kids already, but the children are the ones with the income proof issue.

Oh well, cry about it unless its benefitting you in some way lol. :p

Correct idiom is silver spoon, is it correct that impurities can be filtered through a cotton ball after heat is applied?

The TV said so in Breaking Bad.

l0053g0053
10-19-2022, 09:45 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/6QyYvRtY/golden-spoon.png

Silver was probably taken up as a colloquial after the gold grab in the 1930s. Technically it is used either way.

Here is a golden spoon example from 1899

I would use Silver if I was implying, they had a " Paid for " experience, the parents paid tuition and maybe granted them a car for free. Middle class cruise control for cool.

Golden could be used more along the lines where the parents built a wing of the school.

Ehh, either way, everyone wants more taxes until you make 150k


So technically, you draw the liquid heron through the cotton ball to catch any sediments from the horribly cut black tar heroin. Funny fact; Its a huge issue in Russia because part of first aid in high-school is how to use a needle yourself to draw blood, while in the states it is a bit more " Out there "

Reiwa
10-19-2022, 10:00 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/6QyYvRtY/golden-spoon.png

Silver was probably taken up as a colloquial after the gold grab in the 1930s. Technically it is used either way.

Here is a golden spoon example from 1899

I would use Silver if I was implying, they had a " Paid for " experience, the parents paid tuition and maybe granted them a car for free. Middle class cruise control for cool.

Golden could be used more along the lines where the parents built a wing of the school.

Ehh, either way, everyone wants more taxes until you make 150k


So technically, you draw the liquid heron through the cotton ball to catch any sediments from the horribly cut black tar heroin. Funny fact; Its a huge issue in Russia because part of first aid in high-school is how to use a needle yourself to draw blood, while in the states it is a bit more " Out there "

I accept my defeat.

l0053g0053
10-19-2022, 10:08 PM
I accept my defeat.

https://i.postimg.cc/7LJtRcbg/1666074108015032.png

magnetaress
10-19-2022, 10:25 PM
Bailing out colleges and loaners is communist.

Elizondo
10-19-2022, 10:29 PM
Bailing out colleges and loaners is communist.

hobart admitted he can pay for it

He's a total loser who would rather have taxpayers pay for his kid's education than himself. No shame. What a role model for his kids.

l0053g0053
10-19-2022, 10:39 PM
Listen, I hate anyone who uses welfare, they are poor, stupid, and a waste of society, but if I can tick a box and get some free cash, hey why not right? I mean, someone else will pay for it!

I mean, I make like, 5,000 times a Harvard tuition every other day, so its no big deal for me to pay it, but come on man, my leg hairs turned blond in the summer, so when those kids, you know, in the pool, they would rub my legs up and down.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Dandy_pickpockets%2C_diving.jpg/800px-Dandy_pickpockets%2C_diving.jpg

Elizondo
10-19-2022, 10:54 PM
Listen, I hate anyone who uses welfare, they are poor, stupid, and a waste of society

but if I can tick a box and get some free cash, hey why not right? I mean, someone else will pay for it!

magnetaress
10-19-2022, 10:54 PM
Communism is bad.

I bet it's inevitable tho.

Reiwa
10-19-2022, 10:56 PM
Communism is bad.

I bet it's inevitable tho.

Post-Marxist Socialism is a thing.

(The Thing is Europe)

Jibartik
10-19-2022, 11:10 PM
Doesnt 10k cover the cost of books lol

l0053g0053
10-19-2022, 11:18 PM
Communism is bad.

I bet it's inevitable tho.

y90yaLFoYoA

magnetaress
10-20-2022, 01:01 AM
y90yaLFoYoA

oIMBMrj-Yis

Trexller
10-20-2022, 01:16 AM
oIMBMrj-Yis

This is how russian dudes attempt to dodge Ukrainian bullets.

magnetaress
10-20-2022, 01:44 PM
Post-Marxist Socialism is a thing.

(The Thing is Europe)

It will still devolve into communism in an attempt to *fix it and make it completely fair despite? Inspite? Of merit*.

Then collapse...then invade a nice place full of hotties n biolabs like Ukraine.

Goldknyght
10-20-2022, 10:41 PM
These grips are so funny, cuz they dont complain about Military Industrial Complex that just gave 2Trillion Away to a conflict that the american people didnt sanction. what are we at in Ukraine now and Jackson Mississippi doesnt have clean water also? But please preach to me how a meesly 10/20k is inconveniencing me. Id rather my tax dollars go to those who at least thought they were gonna have an awesome career vs the endless intervention wars that only kills people.

Reiwa
10-20-2022, 10:58 PM
These grips are so funny, cuz they dont complain about Military Industrial Complex that just gave 2Trillion Away to a conflict that the american people didnt sanction. what are we at in Ukraine now and Jackson Mississippi doesnt have clean water also? But please preach to me how a meesly 10/20k is inconveniencing me. Id rather my tax dollars go to those who at least thought they were gonna have an awesome career vs the endless intervention wars that only kills people.

I get 15.8bn not 2 trilly.

How much will loan forgiveness cost?

We really do need better education.

Kaveh
10-21-2022, 12:12 PM
I get 15.8bn not 2 trilly.

How much will loan forgiveness cost?

We really do need better education.

Houston ISD doesn’t teach algebra anymore

hobart
10-21-2022, 01:10 PM
hobart admitted he can pay for it

He's a total loser who would rather have taxpayers pay for his kid's education than himself. No shame. What a role model for his kids.

You're really stupid. Do you not know how this works?

As a role model for my kids adult children, the expectation is that you work while attending school for anything you need beyond the cost of school and basic living expenses.

If you chose to get loans instead of working, after being advised not to, they are your loans. Unless, of course, the government is stupid enough to bail you out. In that case you learn nothing because everything works out for you. Thanks, Democrats.

Basanos
10-21-2022, 01:16 PM
Well it worked with banks and automakers, why not students?

hobart
10-21-2022, 01:17 PM
These grips are so funny, cuz they dont complain about Military Industrial Complex that just gave 2Trillion Away to a conflict that the american people didnt sanction. what are we at in Ukraine now and Jackson Mississippi doesnt have clean water also? But please preach to me how a meesly 10/20k is inconveniencing me. Id rather my tax dollars go to those who at least thought they were gonna have an awesome career vs the endless intervention wars that only kills people.

Why would someone complain about the Military Industrial Complex in a thread about college loan debt forgiveness?

Have you stood up for victims of human trafficking in this thread? Why do you support human trafficking, you monster?

It's possible to support/dislike more than one government policy/program at a time. Disliking one thing does not imply support for everything else.

Did you take logic in college? Straw man argument. This was covered.

Basanos
10-21-2022, 01:22 PM
College being astronomically expensive helps the military meet their recruitment goals, thus perpetuating the system that necessitates such a military in the first place

Same with profit based healthcare

They put more recruiters in poorer areas for a good reason

l0053g0053
10-21-2022, 01:32 PM
I knew a guy in college who was in the marines. He was a severe alcoholic and already an electrician, but got an extra $4000 or so for being enrolled. He had severe PTSD from an incident when he and his team boarded a small fishing boat and somehow ended up murdering everyone on board, dumping the bodies off the side, and setting it on fire before heading back out on patrol.

He had a DUI shortly after he was really pissed off about, when the cop pulled him over, he rolled down his window and said, " What the fuck do you want faggot? " and proceeded to get arrested. For the night. He was more pissed off that it happened than remorseful.

He got a promotion to lead electrician @ 115K and the owner just gave him a shop vehicle to drive since it was board insurance.

This was also an issue, because he was divorced and his alimony went way up because of his promotion.

Long story short. Consider being an electrician before you consider being a murderer for hire.

Think of all the Kelethin elves with ORSD, (Orc Related Stress Disorder)

Jibartik
10-21-2022, 02:29 PM
The idea that the goverment was handing out so much loans that the demand for colleges to increase the cost of going to school should have been an indicator that the system was consuming itself and not working.

Goldknyght
10-29-2022, 03:11 AM
Why would someone complain about the Military Industrial Complex in a thread about college loan debt forgiveness?

Have you stood up for victims of human trafficking in this thread? Why do you support human trafficking, you monster?

It's possible to support/dislike more than one government policy/program at a time. Disliking one thing does not imply support for everything else.

Did you take logic in college? Straw man argument. This was covered.

are tax dollars used for human trafficking? if so, we should be upset about that aswell.

Its also possible that people only complain about one type of governmental policy vs another all the time. I dont see stop ukraine war. so ur logic is flawed.

So did you take logic in college? ignorant argument when you have no excuse. but to dodge the point.

Basanos
10-29-2022, 08:53 AM
Yeah, tax dollars are used for human trafficking. Ron DeSantis saw to that.

magnetaress
10-29-2022, 08:55 AM
Yeah, tax dollars are used for human trafficking. Ron DeSantis saw to that.

i wont argue that ron is kinda useless in this department butt this was a problem in many other jurisdicions outside of florida b4 ron u sound like a baffoon when u make a post like suddenly these new guys are like some kinda fashy evul new thing

Jibartik
10-29-2022, 12:05 PM
Shilling for marthas vinyard lol

Homesteaded
10-29-2022, 12:50 PM
College being astronomically expensive helps the military meet their recruitment goals, thus perpetuating the system that necessitates such a military in the first place

Same with profit based healthcare

They put more recruiters in poorer areas for a good reason

Why wouldn't they put more recruiters in poor areas? Should they be forced to put recruitment centers in all parts of the country equally? You have really bad ideas. You don't think we need a military? Your types have no plan, all you want to do is rip out the systems that have worked for 2000 years and have no idea what to replace it with.

The military is necessary, start there.

Jibartik
10-29-2022, 12:53 PM
Imgaine saying the military has recruitment goals as a pejorative.

Being pro enviornment.

Then voting a second time for the guy who has funded the biggest war in the last 20 years and has appointed military officials that say nukes can be used preemptively in extreme cases.

magnetaress
10-29-2022, 01:44 PM
Shilling for marthas vinyard lol

like i said we need at least one more peaceful transition of power so i can play wow dragonflight :cool:

Basanos
10-29-2022, 01:46 PM
Why wouldn't they put more recruiters in poor areas? Should they be forced to put recruitment centers in all parts of the country equally? You have really bad ideas. You don't think we need a military? Your types have no plan, all you want to do is rip out the systems that have worked for 2000 years and have no idea what to replace it with.

The military is necessary, start there.There is a guy named Jesus who completely disagrees with you

You should read about that guy

We have many ideas, you just hate them all because they are explicitly progressive. Don't get mad at me because the right is repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting different results

Jibartik
10-29-2022, 01:47 PM
like i said we need at least one more peaceful transition of power so i can play wow dragonflight :cool:

we will, trump will heal from his mortal wound, and then the BLM riots will last years while martial law slowly goes into effect.

Elizondo
10-29-2022, 01:49 PM
There is a guy named Jesus who completely disagrees with you

You should read about that guy

Matthew 10:34

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Hope that helps

Homesteaded
10-29-2022, 01:51 PM
Jesus wasn't a hippy. Spin again.

Basanos
10-29-2022, 01:56 PM
Oh yeah, you blasphemers worship Supply Side Jesus. How foolish of me, I forgot that you aren't real Christians

magnetaress
10-29-2022, 01:57 PM
i applied for my 20k worth

Jibartik
10-29-2022, 02:01 PM
I forgot that you aren't real Christians

To be fair the jewish messiah was supposed to start a war and rebuild the temple in israel.

Reiwa
10-29-2022, 02:50 PM
i applied for my 20k worth

Good starkind! You have my permission to skip showering today.

magnetaress
10-29-2022, 02:53 PM
i dont have a degree tho

Reiwa
11-05-2022, 12:33 PM
Barrett blocked the challenge out of magisterial collegiality? :confused:

Smoofers
11-05-2022, 12:37 PM
Cucks like Basanos think we can abolish the military for the same reason company execs think it's a good idea to cut the IT workforce

Reiwa
11-07-2022, 11:47 PM
Thanks for the interesting discussion

Shoo bot, return to the abyss prepared for you.

Kaveh
11-08-2022, 01:51 AM
Gianni Brooks?

Interesting

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 02:03 AM
we can abolish the military because if russi and china want to subjigate the world outside the usa i dont care my guess is theres no difference between us running the world and them as far as me getting gaped by uncle sam every april and my dollar being worth fuck all.

Basanos
11-08-2022, 08:12 AM
Cucks like Basanos think we can abolish the military for the same reason company execs think it's a good idea to cut the IT workforceIt's out of Christian principles, but that's okay, you actually used the word 'cuck' in a serious context so your opinion doesn't count

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 12:03 PM
It's out of Christian principles, but that's okay, you actually used the word 'cuck' in a serious context so your opinion doesn't count

youre right about the military but he's right about you being a cuck lol

unsunghero
11-08-2022, 12:18 PM
then you need to take care of the diploma, charisma and professionalism on your own.

I’ll tell the employer that my charisma is 240 buffed, will be 250 when I get the max buff next level

Basanos
11-08-2022, 12:23 PM
youre right about the military but he's right about you being a cuck lolName the person I have pinned my identity on

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 12:34 PM
dont know what that means about the quoted text at all.

Basanos
11-08-2022, 12:44 PM
It's conservatives that worship at the altar of the billionaires that lead this country. 99% of them support Republicans for a good reason

Reiwa
11-08-2022, 12:44 PM
Name the person I have pinned my identity on

Anatole France

Basanos
11-08-2022, 12:45 PM
Anatole FranceMarx or Kropotkin would have been a better shot, if we can be cucked by the dead

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 12:49 PM
cuck
/kək/
noun
1.
DEROGATORY•INFORMAL
a weak or servile man (often used as a contemptuous term for a man with moderate or progressive political views).

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 12:52 PM
Name the person I have pinned my identity on

To be fair youll vote for literally flies on shit over trump, so Trump. Trump is the person you pinned your idenity on.

Basanos
11-08-2022, 12:54 PM
Says the grown man with a poster of a 76 year old man in his house lol

Basanos
11-08-2022, 12:55 PM
To be fair youll vote for literally flies on shit over trump, so Trump. Trump is the person you pinned your idenity on.If flies die I'm not going to host a party

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 12:58 PM
Says the grown man with a poster of a 76 year old man in his house lol

I like trump for 1 reason: Because you dont.

Sorry that he means so much to you and your issues and country means so little to me.

Basanos
11-08-2022, 01:01 PM
My reason for despising Trump is due to his fascism and the fact that he is a Republican

Evangelical conservative Christians are also an element, those blasphemers need to go to hell

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 01:04 PM
See that's an identity that you've pinned your political views on.

Sorry to point that out for you :o

I love bernie, but would rather have trump than any of the demorat murderers who do whatever bankers tell them to do in charge while they lie to all my friends and thrive off their hope and good intentions.

Basanos
11-08-2022, 01:08 PM
My political views predate Trump, if DeSantis gets their nod I would fight him just as hard. Plus, he's not a goddamn moron like Trump is.

Anyways, you tell yourself whatever you want if it helps you swallow your misanthropy

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 01:09 PM
Sorry you cant handle that you and me are alike in every way except I think the democrat party are conservatives.

Basanos
11-08-2022, 01:12 PM
I do too but if forced to choose between them and outright fascists I will choose the Democrats every single time

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 01:17 PM
You say that I am a fascist but I dont agree.

Basanos
11-08-2022, 01:22 PM
Not every Trump voter is, that's absurd. But the politicians they elect sure are

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 01:28 PM
Not every Trump voter is, that's absurd. But the politicians they elect sure are

good this system is absurdly broken.

or that wouldn't be happening.

Smoofers
11-08-2022, 01:29 PM
Fascist is a code word for "I don't like their politics, but I am not articulate enough to explain why". It's lost all other meaning by now.

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 01:30 PM
We are still suffering from the 2008 crash and the more democrats try to pretend its not real the more voters slip through their fingers into madness.

Basanos
11-08-2022, 01:36 PM
That's because most Democrats are still capitalists at the end of the day, and why I say they are more similar to the Trump conservatives that claim to hate them then they are The Actual Left.

Our form of capitalism is too far gone for incrementalism. Drastic measures will be necessary, it's why we say "socialism or barbarism" and it appears some mfers are so brainwashed by the rich to hate everyone who isn't identical to them that they are leaning towards barbarism.

Elizondo
11-08-2022, 01:38 PM
Fascist is a code word for "I don't like their politics, but I am not articulate enough to explain why". It's lost all other meaning by now.

Jibartik
11-08-2022, 01:40 PM
That's because most Democrats are still capitalists at the end of the day, and why I say they are more similar to the Trump conservatives that claim to hate them then they are The Actual Left.

Our form of capitalism is too far gone for incrementalism. Drastic measures will be necessary, it's why we say "socialism or barbarism" and it appears some mfers are so brainwashed by the rich to hate everyone who isn't identical to them that they are leaning towards barbarism.

I agree with you in every way, but electing the democrats is as incremental as you can get, and like saying "I believe in our system, and the only way to solve it is by working on it from within"

That is saying incrementalism, because if you believe in the system you believe in incrementalism.

The left thinks anyone who doesn't believe in the system is a literal domestic terrorist, and they want all of that discussion to stop.

How you cant see a march on the capitol by a guy in a bear suit is as drastically NOT incremental as possible just makes no sense to me.

I believe with all my heart occupy wallstreet was the most patriotic thing our generation has done, and I believe the 2nd most is when they got so mad they flipped to trump and then took it to washington.

The system is broken, and the broken part is washington.

If you can handle voting for BOTH parties, youll be able to get ALL the rich corruption.