Biden Bails Out Losers With Worthless College Degrees

[Basanos]

Don't mistake my unwillingness to bother explaining your shit beliefs to you for inability, thanks

I'm capable of it, it's just proven to be a complete waste of time on this forum

[Basanos]

I agree with you in every way, but electing the democrats is as incremental as you can get, and like saying "I believe in our system, and the only way to solve it is by working on it from within"

That is saying incrementalism, because if you believe in the system you believe in incrementalism.

The left thinks anyone who doesn't believe in the system is a literal domestic terrorist, and they want all of that discussion to stop.

How you cant see a march on the capitol by a guy in a bear suit is as drastically NOT incremental as possible just makes no sense to me.They were trying to install a fascist dictatorship in which people like me would get helicopter rides and people like my spouse would already be dead

[Jibartik]

Don't mistake my unwillingness to bother explaining your shit beliefs to you for inability, thanks

I'm capable of it, it's just proven to be a complete waste of time on this forum

Your belief is extremely binary:

If candidate is running under GOP then = conservative.

If far left socialist anti capitalist says trump is better than all the democrats = conservative.

[Reiwa]

Fascist is a code word for "I don't like their politics, but I am not articulate enough to explain why". It's lost all other meaning by now.

Fascist is still bad even if the term is widely misused.

[Jibartik]

They were trying to install a fascist dictatorship in which people like me would get helicopter rides and people like my spouse would already be dead

This is extreme hyperbole from extremely wealthy corperate television news and simply not true.

[Jibartik]

Fascist is still bad even if the term is widely misused.

Yeah but black holes are bad, that doesnt mean calling democrats a black hole makes them one.

[Basanos]

Your belief is extremely binary:

If candidate is running under GOP then = conservative.

If far left socialist anti capitalist says trump is better than all the democrats = conservative.You just perceive it that way

If Adam Kinzinger ran for president I'd at least give him a second look, but people like that are being drummed out as the GOP is subsumed by Trump npcs

[Jibartik]

You just perceive it that way

If Adam Kinzinger ran for president I'd at least give him a second look, but people like that are being drummed out as the GOP is subsumed by Trump npcs

You and me, identical political views in every way, except that I dont like democrat politicians.

Therefore: I am a fascist.

[Reiwa]

Our form of capitalism is too far gone for incrementalism. Drastic measures will be necessary, it's why we say "socialism or barbarism" and it appears some mfers are so brainwashed by the rich to hate everyone who isn't identical to them that they are leaning towards barbarism.

Better or worse than 1916 when Rosa said it?

It alludes to monarchy btw - regal barbarism.

[Basanos]

This is extreme hyperbole from extremely wealthy corperate television news and simply not true.A fancy way of saying "fake news", which is kind of the reverse of a Trump card now that everyone sees you fellas only try this when the facts don't suit your pre-existing beliefs

Not that it matters, but you were doing the same shit about so-called "gang violence" earlier

[Basanos]

Better or worse than 1916 when Rosa said it?

It alludes to monarchy btw - regal barbarism.Just different. I dunno. We still misuse the terms "left" and "right" and all kinds of other crap from the French revolution, lots of phrases morph in usage over time

I don't want to be King Shit of Turd Mountain, I want humans to attempt to build utopia. As close as we can get

[Jibartik]

A fancy way of saying "fake news", which is kind of the reverse of a Trump card now that everyone sees you fellas only try this when the facts don't suit your pre-existing beliefs

Not that it matters, but you were doing the same shit about so-called "gang violence" earlier

I dont know what to say, you really think that in America under trumps 2nd term they were gonna start throwing liberal voters out of helicopters? You really believe that?

gang violence atually is a problem in this coutnry, I mean are you saying its not? Why because it doesnt affect you because you live outside of the goverment shopping mall?

[Reiwa]

I dont know what to say, you really think that in America under trumps 2nd term they were gonna start throwing liberal voters out of helicopters? You really believe that?

gang violence atually is a problem in this coutnry, I mean are you saying its not? Why because it doesnt affect you because you live outside of the goverment shopping mall?

Do we have a lot of South Americans coming to this country? The helicopter rotors thing is a Pinochet reference.

[Jibartik]

I wonder what it'll be like living in like 2500 with all the same issues. Or if by then we'll all look like jaba the hutts but connected to the matrix machine.

it'd be so strangly depressing and nihilist to have 500 years of video discussions about us doing the same shit they were arguing about in Rome.

Like, I wonder if humans will die of apathy at that point. I guess that's what Ad Astra is all about.

If you knew the universe was a flat circle, would you still try to enjoy your life? I guess they try to enjoy their lives in prison, so if we knew that life was futile and pointless and had no growth potential, we'd still prob fight over gold coins.

[Basanos]

I dont know what to say, you really think that in America under trumps 2nd term they were gonna start throwing liberal voters out of helicopters? You really believe that?

gang violence atually is a problem in this coutnry, I mean are you saying its not? Why because it doesnt affect you because you live outside of the goverment shopping mall?Yes I do believe that the right will become more violent as they obtain more power. They have historically delegated their violence but there's a lot of violent fantasy posts coming from the right. The vast majority are regular shitposts, though. The systemic violence is what will create the most bodies. I do not think it will always take the form of helicopter rides, though.

As for gangs... I disbelieve the local news most of all. Overblown to scare liberals and Trump voters. It comes up every ten seconds in Atlanta news, they try real hard to drive that wedge.

[Toxigen]

Yes I do believe that the right will become more violent as they obtain more power. They have historically delegated their violence but there's a lot of violent fantasy posts coming from the right. The vast majority are regular shitposts, though. The systemic violence is what will create the most bodies. I do not think it will always take the form of helicopter rides, though.

As for gangs... I disbelieve the local news most of all. Overblown to scare liberals and Trump voters. It comes up every ten seconds in Atlanta news, they try real hard to drive that wedge.

oh yeah thats right you live in shithole atlanta LOL

[Elizondo]

oh yeah thats right you live in shithole atlanta LOL

Imagine living in a shithole like Atlanta (that has been run into the ground by Democrats for years) and blaming Republicans for everything

[magnetaress]

I wonder what it'll be like living in like 2500 with all the same issues. Or if by then we'll all look like jaba the hutts but connected to the matrix machine.

it'd be so strangly depressing and nihilist to have 500 years of video discussions about us doing the same shit they were arguing about in Rome.

Like, I wonder if humans will die of apathy at that point. I guess that's what Ad Astra is all about.

If you knew the universe was a flat circle, would you still try to enjoy your life? I guess they try to enjoy their lives in prison, so if we knew that life was futile and pointless and had no growth potential, we'd still prob fight over gold coins.
i plan on being anorexic again

[Basanos]

Imagine living in a shithole like Atlanta (that has been run into the ground by Democrats for years) and blaming Republicans for everythingI blame capitalism, get it right

It is also hilarious to see yet another clueless Trump fanatic that is terrified of cities because of what he saw on the propaganda news lol

[Toxigen]

I blame capitalism, get it right

It is also hilarious to see yet another clueless Trump fanatic that is terrified of cities because of what he saw on the propaganda news lol

sorry you live in a shithole hope this helps

[Basanos]

sometimes i forget that toxigen and elizondo are the same sad person

[Basanos]

aside from not being fans of conservatives what are the similarities? i need to put some distance between my accounts and it's good practice for narrative purposes

[Reiwa]

sometimes i forget that toxigen and elizondo are the same sad person

They aren't but lulz is loramin

[Basanos]

They aren't but lulz is loraminsorry but i saw it on youtube, that makes it true

blake is deleting posts again

[Mblake1981]

aside from not being fans of conservatives what are the similarities?

No other qualification are required.

They aren't but lulz is loramin

*updating my wiki*

[Basanos]

horza, get in here, either you have to stop using the term "obese incestuous pedophile" or some variation of the word "retard" which i feel dirty even saying

or i have to start

[Reiwa]

SCOTUS will decide in February, remains blocked for now (https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-12-01/supreme-court-to-hear-arguments-on-bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-but-keeps-program-blocked)

[Encroaching Death]

SCOTUS will decide in February, remains blocked for now (https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-12-01/supreme-court-to-hear-arguments-on-bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-but-keeps-program-blocked)

https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/9e7d63c84bd163037cf4cd069a019e39.jpg

[Lune]

SCOTUS will more than likely strike it down. Which means, in retaliation, Biden will extend suspension of interest accrual and collection through '24, possibly even '28 (if he wins and lives that long, he probably won't do either), costing ever more billions.

Meanwhile, Gen Z and millennials will be ever more driven to turn out for Democrats like they did in '22, and will continue to face a demographic financial crisis: 'If a young person has $40,000 in loans at 6% they took at 18 years old with promises that it was their key to prosperity, and no realistic way to pay it off, that's a problem for the young person. If 54 million young people have $1.6 trillion in loans at 6% and no realistic way to pay it off, that's a problem for society'.

So not only are we unable to place a band-aid on this gushing financial wound our society has, stitching it up by reforming higher education is simply unimaginable in this political climate. This is a ticking bomb that is probably going to go off within the next decade or two, as progressively larger sections of the workforce become automated, corporations become ever more effective at crushing labor, and there are simply not enough decent-paying jobs to go around. As it is currently, most people have bullshit jobs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_job) that accomplish nothing and exist only because of laws, bureaucracy, or legacy corporate inefficiency.

*Disclaimer*: I had loans briefly but paid them off because I have a good job and large inheritance. In isolation, I think forgiving student loans is a bad idea and the money could be used in other ways for much more good. I support forgiveness solely because hypocritical Republicans are so against it, you know, the ones who had billions in PPP loans forgiven, many of whom used not a cent for payroll, because Republicans gutted the oversight provision of the bill. It's about time actual people, not corporations, get a bailout.

btw, one of the reasons inflation is so high is because those 54 million Americans indebted with student loans haven't been paying them down during this pause in interest accrual, and instead have been buying fucking consumer goods or taking vacations from work lol

[Reiwa]

I support forgiveness solely because hypocritical Republicans are so against it, you know, the ones who had billions in PPP loans forgiven, many of whom used not a cent for payroll, because Republicans gutted the oversight provision of the bill.

:mad:

[Evia]

SCOTUS will more than likely strike it down. Which means, in retaliation, Biden will extend suspension of interest accrual and collection through '24, possibly even '28 (if he wins and lives that long, he probably won't do either), costing ever more billions.

Meanwhile, Gen Z and millennials will be ever more driven to turn out for Democrats like they did in '22, and will continue to face a demographic financial crisis: 'If a young person has $40,000 in loans at 6% they took at 18 years old with promises that it was their key to prosperity, and no realistic way to pay it off, that's a problem for the young person. If 54 million young people have $1.6 trillion in loans at 6% and no realistic way to pay it off, that's a problem for society'.

So not only are we unable to place a band-aid on this gushing financial wound our society has, stitching it up by reforming higher education is simply unimaginable in this political climate. This is a ticking bomb that is probably going to go off within the next decade or two, as progressively larger sections of the workforce become automated, corporations become ever more effective at crushing labor, and there are simply not enough decent-paying jobs to go around. As it is currently, most people have bullshit jobs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_job) that accomplish nothing and exist only because of laws, bureaucracy, or legacy corporate inefficiency.

*Disclaimer*: I had loans briefly but paid them off because I have a good job and large inheritance. In isolation, I think forgiving student loans is a bad idea and the money could be used in other ways for much more good. I support forgiveness solely because hypocritical Republicans are so against it, you know, the ones who had billions in PPP loans forgiven, many of whom used not a cent for payroll, because Republicans gutted the oversight provision of the bill. It's about time actual people, not corporations, get a bailout.

btw, one of the reasons inflation is so high is because those 54 million Americans indebted with student loans haven't been paying them down during this pause in interest accrual, and instead have been buying fucking consumer goods or taking vacations from work lol


so to sum this up, the majority of americans are not that smart with money. They made terrible decisions with their own finances because they saw education as their 'get rich' dream and it didnt pan out.

we better bail them out or demolish capitalism as a response. Or even better, stick it to the republicans because of ??Reasons??

seems like sound and sane logic.

[Toxigen]

so to sum this up, the majority of americans are not that smart with money. They made terrible decisions with their own finances because they saw education as their 'get rich' dream and it didnt pan out.

we better bail them out or demolish capitalism as a response. Or even better, stick it to the republicans because of ??Reasons??

seems like sound and sane logic.

qft

wont convince lune tho hes the definition of a liberal dipshit

[Jibartik]

We can all afford to pay putins price hike

BUT GOD FORBID THE MOST IMPORATNT INFRISTRUCTURE PAY THEIR WORKERS

[Encroaching Death]

hypocritical Republicans are so against it, you know, the ones who had billions in PPP loans forgiven, many of whom used not a cent for payroll


1. Government-forced business shutdown was not a choice. Getting a loan to go to college is a choice.

2. You HAVE to use PPP money on payroll. Payroll is the largest expense for a business.

[Basanos]

we better bail them out or demolish capitalism as a response.Thankfully, there is room for both

[Reiwa]

2. You HAVE to use PPP money on payroll. Payroll is the largest expense for a business.

EIDL?

[magnetaress]

There was an episode of a sci fi show where everyone was in debt to some corporation and they basically lived to pay off the debt. I think everyone was young and old people didn't exist??? or something in it? Was pretty good. Was it sliders?

[Jibartik]

Gas prices are HIGH

why?

cus we want gypsies to be free from rule from other gypsies.

What about workers in america?

I WOULD NEVER, EVER... what are you a TRUMPER???!!

[Encroaching Death]

EIDL?

Yeah, all of those loans are like that.

We got two loans in 2020 for my business.

We even opened a separate bank account for them to avoid penalties.

[Reiwa]

Yeah, all of those loans are like that.

We got two loans in 2020 for my business.

We even opened a separate bank account for them to avoid penalties.

Productive relief is simply better. Market intervention goes brr.

[Lune]

so to sum this up, the majority of americans are not that smart with money. They made terrible decisions with their own finances because they saw education as their 'get rich' dream and it didnt pan out.

we better bail them out or demolish capitalism as a response. Or even better, stick it to the republicans because of ??Reasons??

seems like sound and sane logic.

The upper middle class white experience for millions was this: "You need to go to college at all costs in order to make something of your life". This wisdom was dispensed by a generation that could support a family of 4 on one income driving a taxi cab or being a custodian, but they saw that the caste above them were all college educated, and in that time a college degree was several orders of magnitude more valuable.

By the time both boomer and millennial zeitgeist knew things had changed, it was already too late.

Yes, a huge part of the problem was people majoring in gender studies and then working at Starbucks, but that's a meme and it's far from the whole story. It mirrors all the people leading up to 2008 who bought houses with mortgages they could never afford, thinking the future would always be like the past.

All of these people made mistakes. The one and only part that pisses me off is that it's only ever corporations that get bailouts when they make mistakes, ordinary people are just told to kick rocks. At the very least, industries that are too big to fail, and then fail, should be partly or wholly nationalized, or at least broken up.

Essentially every single regulation put in place after 2008 to ensure it didn't happen again was dismantled by Republicans.

So it's half about justice in bailing out my generation, and half about my deep-seated hatred of Republicans and opposing them at every step of the way. Opposition to student loan forgiveness is 100% driven by corporations or financial elite (I'm not talking about common folk bitching on facebook, I'm talking about the initiators of lawsuits and legislation), all with the sole purpose of suppressing labor freedom and ensuring a steady supply of wage slaves. (This is also a large part of why healthcare is tied to employment in the US).

1. Government-forced business shutdown was not a choice. Getting a loan to go to college is a choice.

2. You HAVE to use PPP money on payroll. Payroll is the largest expense for a business.

lol, what you "have" to do doesn't fucking matter one bit when you strip the program of any oversight or enforcement. The PPP was rife with fraud (https://www.pogo.org/investigation/2022/10/the-great-pandemic-swindle-feds-botched-review-of-billions-in-suspect-ppp-loans).

Also, at the end of the day, IT'S CAPITALISM BITCH. The vast majority of those businesses weren't shut down, or when they were, it wasn't for long-- the true decimation of business during the pandemic was the long period in which many people were afraid or reluctant to go into public.

Your business is too weak and shitty to survive a pandemic? You deserve to go out of business. It's not the taxpayers' fucking job to bail you out. This is precisely how I feel about student loans as well. The difference is, we live in a reality where the government is constantly handing out bailouts to corporations and business elites, and to nobody else.

That's the part I take issue with and why I think some of the student debt should absolutely fucking be forgiven.

[Jibartik]

Imagine a scenario where the unemployed middle class who went to school for free had more political leverage than the workers who just want 2 weeks vacation in a 200 year old system of infristructure, in 2022, in a developed nation.

Oh nevermind, dont have to imagine.

[Lune]

Imagine a scenario where the unemployed middle class who went to school for free had more political leverage than the workers who just want 2 weeks vacation in a 200 year old system of infristructure, in 2022, in a developed nation.

Oh nevermind, dont have to imagine.

Yea they need to wildcat strike in the form of every worker saying they are sick.

Industries like railroads that are so essential to the national economy that their workers can't organize and negotiate fairly need to be nationalized.

The rail corporations know their labor is hamstringed at the negotiating table and have been taking advantage of this for a long time. Fuck em

[Encroaching Death]

lol, what you "have" to do doesn't fucking matter one bit when you strip the program of any oversight or enforcement. The PPP was rife with fraud (https://www.pogo.org/investigation/2022/10/the-great-pandemic-swindle-feds-botched-review-of-billions-in-suspect-ppp-loans).

Also, at the end of the day, IT'S CAPITALISM BITCH. The vast majority of those businesses weren't shut down, or when they were, it wasn't for long-- the true decimation of business during the pandemic was the long period in which many people were afraid or reluctant to go into public.

Your business is too weak and shitty to survive a pandemic? You deserve to go out of business. It's not the taxpayers' fucking job to bail you out. This is precisely how I feel about student loans as well. The difference is, we live in a reality where the government is constantly handing out bailouts to corporations and business elites, and to nobody else.

That's the part I take issue with and why I think some of the student debt should absolutely fucking be forgiven.

Yes, you HAVE to spend PPP on expenses (AKA payroll).

The government forcing your business to shutdown is the opposite of Capitalism.

If the government forces you to close, they have a responsibility to reimburse that company.

All that money goes directly to employees. If it doesn't, you get fucked in the ass.

We got enough to cover payroll for 2 months in 2020, and another 2 months in 2021. I've been through the process. Twice.

Sorry you majored in Lesbian Dance Theory and no one wants to hire you. That sucks you owe $200,000 :o

[Basanos]

Imagine a scenario where the unemployed middle class who went to school for free had more political leverage than the workers who just want 2 weeks vacation in a 200 year old system of infristructure, in 2022, in a developed nation.

Oh nevermind, dont have to imagine.The fact that you think one set of workers is somehow different from the other is precisely what those with the leverage want

[Encroaching Death]

The fact that you think one set of workers is somehow different from the other is precisely what those with the leverage want

What he's saying is true though.

The poorer railworkers will be personally bailing out rich, spoiled brats who decided to drink themselves through college.

Fuck that.

[Basanos]

That's shortsighted and reductive, but you're pretty dim so who cares

[Jibartik]

The fact that you think one set of workers is somehow different from the other is precisely what those with the leverage want

I dont, my entire thesis is that these are citizens of a developed nation in 2022 and nobody should not have 2 weeks sick leave.

The people that actually believe what you accuse me of want you attacking me instead of them.

[Lune]

Yes, you HAVE to spend PPP on expenses (AKA payroll).

The government forcing your business to shutdown is the opposite of Capitalism.

If the government forces you to close, they have a responsibility to reimburse that company.

All that money goes directly to employees. If it doesn't, you get fucked in the ass.

We got enough to cover payroll for 2 months in 2020, and another 2 months in 2021. I've been through the process. Twice.

Sorry you majored in Lesbian Dance Theory and no one wants to hire you. That sucks you owe $200,000 :o

Massive amounts of PPP loans were given to companies that were never forced to close, as well as given long after they were allowed to reopen. The IRS is so backlogged with fraudulent PPP loans it is going to take them 20 years to get through them all, if they even bother.

Also, I don't owe jack shit.

Yea it's cringe to flaunt money but I just want you dipshit Trump cultists to see that I never had to work a day in my life if I didn't want to, and I still won the capitalism you supposedly hold so sacred. lol

https://i.imgur.com/O5AX4Hx.jpg

[Encroaching Death]

That's shortsighted and reductive, but you're pretty dim so who cares

You've really convinced me that I'm wrong...

Because you can't.

The Proletariat will be bailing out the Bourgeois and you're too retarded to figure that out.

[Encroaching Death]

Massive amounts of PPP loans were given to companies that were never forced to close, as well as given long after they were allowed to reopen. The IRS is so backlogged with fraudulent PPP loans it is going to take them 20 years to get through them all, if they even bother.

Also, I don't owe jack shit.

Yea it's cringe to flaunt money but I just want you dipshit Trump cultists to see that I never had to work a day in my life if I didn't want to, and I still won the capitalism you supposedly hold so sacred. lol

I'm not denying there was fraud.

There will be fraud with the student loan forgiveness if it ever happens too.

You seem to think all PPP money went to Bill Gates or Elon Musk or something.

It didn't. It paid for payroll. MOST people have jobs. If their company fails, there goes their paycheck.

PPP money went directly to employees. I'm sure some were even college students.

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/O5AX4Hx.jpg

nationalize it :)

[Lune]

I'm not denying there was fraud.

There will be fraud with the student loan forgiveness if it ever happens too.

You seem to think all PPP money went to Bill Gates or Elon Musk or something.

It didn't. It paid for payroll. MOST people have jobs. If their company fails, there goes their paycheck.

PPP money went directly to employees. I'm sure some were even college students.

Your problem is you seem to think the reason matters.

"Oh PPP is justified because without it, so many people would have been out of business and/or jobless!"

Yet without student loan / education reform, or some form of forgiveness, an entire generation will be saddled with such profound debt as to essentially be condemned to a life of wage-slavery with close to zero discretionary income to power the economy.

Yea, they shouldn't have taken out loans like that and then failed to find a good job. And yea, the businesses should recognize that apocalyptic shit can happen, and you need to have a rainy day fund to stay afloat in tough times, or to adapt and survive.

Bailouts are fucking nonsense both for businesses and individuals. Unfortunately, we live in a world where there are bailouts, and they ONLY go to subsidize hard times for corporations who then keep their profits when spring comes. If we're going to be doing bail-outs, bail out some people who fucking need it for once.

[Encroaching Death]

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[Reiwa]

Your problem is you seem to think the reason matters.

"Oh PPP is justified because without it, so many people would have been out of business and/or jobless!"

Yet without student loan / education reform, or some form of forgiveness, an entire generation will be saddled with such profound debt as to essentially be condemned to a life of wage-slavery with close to zero discretionary income to power the economy.

Yea, they shouldn't have taken out loans like that and then failed to find a good job. And yea, the businesses should recognize that apocalyptic shit can happen, and you need to have a rainy day fund to stay afloat in tough times, or to adapt and survive.

Bailouts are fucking nonsense both for businesses and individuals. Unfortunately, we live in a world where there are bailouts, and they ONLY go to subsidize hard times for corporations who then keep their profits when spring comes. If we're going to be doing bail-outs, bail out some people who fucking need it for once.

Bailing out student debtors doesn't produce anything; bailing out businesses do.

[Lune]

Bailing out student debtors doesn't produce anything; bailing out businesses do.

Bailing out student debtors liberates a cross-section of society from financial ruin, freeing them to feed consumerism, have children, etc.

Bailing out businesses subsidizes failed entities that neglected to save for a rainy day or failed to adapt. Workers can go anywhere for a paycheck.

US airlines received over $54 billion in direct payments during the pandemic. Prior to the pandemic, they were shoveling money into buying up their own stock, rather than saving or re-investing to weather tough times. This should have cost them a large chunk of their companies, transferred to public ownership with a government representative put on the board to help prevent these kinds of fucking shenanigans in the future.

Corporate bailouts should come with a cost, otherwise it's just state capitalism Chinese-style.

Funny it's the liberals like me arguing for the free market these days

[Encroaching Death]

Unfortunately, we live in a world where there are bailouts, and they ONLY go to subsidize hard times for corporations who then keep their profits when spring comes. If we're going to be doing bail-outs, bail out some people who fucking need it for once.

Everyone seems to think the average business is flush with cash.

It's just not true.

A ton of businesses don't even bring in profit at the end of the day. It all goes back into the business because they're not successful enough.

An interruption of 10 days can put a business down for good.

80% of the US is small business as well, so we're not talking Walmart or Amazon.

And for the last time, PPP IS for people who need it. The masses of people working and earning a paycheck.

College kids aren't the working class. They can go suck on daddy's dick for his credit card and borrow his BMW if they need to.

[Lune]

A ton of businesses don't even bring in profit at the end of the day. It all goes back into the business because they're not successful enough.

An interruption of 10 days can put a business down for good.

... good?

If your business can't survive 10 days of interruption it's a shit business and should go under. Sorry. Free market. They'll be replaced by a savvier business.

[Reiwa]

Bailing out student debtors liberates a cross-section of society from financial ruin, freeing them to feed consumerism, have children, etc.

...

US airlines received over $54 billion in direct payments during the pandemic. Prior to the pandemic, they were shoveling money into buying up their own stock, rather than saving or re-investing to weather tough times. This should have cost them a large chunk of their companies, transferred to public ownership with a government representative put on the board to help prevent these kinds of fucking shenanigans in the future.

Funny it's the liberals like me arguing for the free market these days

Does it produce anything tho? Or just more money available for the same set of goods.

Liberals don't nationalize companies friendo.

[misterbonkers]

Everyone seems to think the average business is flush with cash.

It's just not true.

A ton of businesses don't even bring in profit at the end of the day. It all goes back into the business because they're not successful enough.

An interruption of 10 days can put a business down for good.

80% of the US is small business as well, so we're not talking Walmart or Amazon.

And for the last time, PPP IS for people who need it. The masses of people working and earning a paycheck.

College kids aren't the working class. They can go suck on daddy's dick for his credit card and borrow his BMW if they need to.

yeah man, god forbid anybody try to give their kids a better life than they had by sending them off to colleges with predatory lending structures :rolleyes:

[Reiwa]

It's a little bit horseshit to use a 9/11 first responder benefit(2003 HEROES Act) for a nationwide program.

[Encroaching Death]

... good?

If your business can't survive 10 days of interruption it's a shit business and should go under. Sorry. Free market. They'll be replaced by a savvier business.

If I purposely bulldoze a business with a bulldozer.

Is it their fault they go out of business?

No. If I wasn't in the equation, it wouldn't have happened.

I don't care how savvy someone is, if you keep them from earning money, you're going to cripple them.

Just like how 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, businesses really aren't any better.

[Encroaching Death]

yeah man, god forbid anybody try to give their kids a better life than they had by sending them off to colleges with predatory lending structures :rolleyes:

Poor people don't go to College.

Starbucks-addicted yuppies send their children to college.

Hope this helps.

[Kaveh]

Do student loans make college more expensive or less?

[Kaveh]

That's shortsighted and reductive, but you're pretty dim so who cares

Lol’d

[Lune]

Poor people don't go to College.

Starbucks-addicted yuppies send their children to college.

Hope this helps.

Tell that to my dorm-mate freshman year who was the son of a Vietnamese helicopter baby with jack shit to his name but was savvy enough to get scholarships, and got loans for the rest. There were many like him.

There are many, many poor people in colleges, especially non Ivy league schools.

He's a Big 4 accountant now.

You people don't know jack shit about the world. Must be rural.

[Encroaching Death]

Tell that to my dorm-mate

Nice anecdote :cool:

https://assets.ltkcontent.com/images/106097/anecdote-when-i-was-younger_ab1a6bc5ce.jpg

[Encroaching Death]

was savvy enough

So it sounds like he doesn't need a bailout then. :p

[Encroaching Death]

https://i.ibb.co/WVJJgKP/SAC-RCB-20220727-VACAVILLE0086.png

[Lune]

Three posts in 10 minutes because your mind wasn't quick enough to come up with those potshots all in one, enough said. Work on that critical thinking.

The anecdote was used to illustrate an example of a larger whole. The statistics regarding college being a ticket to social mobility for the poor are ubiquitous, but I'm certainly not going to dig them up for someone who is trying desperately to cling to their ignorant worldview, it's pointless.

As my homie Gandalf would say, "I did not travel through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm". I'm gonna go enjoy the rest of my day off, seeing as I don't need to work very much :)

[Encroaching Death]

I'm gonna go enjoy the rest of my day off, seeing as I don't need to work very much :)

Run bitch :D

[Basanos]

You've really convinced me that I'm wrong...

Because you can't.

The Proletariat will be bailing out the Bourgeois and you're too retarded to figure that out.You are mistaken if you think I am trying to convince you of anything

The proletariat has been bailing out the bourgeois for hundreds of years through a variety of means. You don't know shit about history.

[Encroaching Death]

You are mistaken if you think I am trying to convince you of anything

The proletariat has been bailing out the bourgeois for hundreds of years through a variety of means. You don't know shit about history.

And yet, you want it to continue lol

Because you're bourgeois. Every leftist is nowadays.

[Elizondo]

Imagine actually believing Government forced lock downs and total shutdown of the Economy is "The Free Market"

Pure Comedy

[Encroaching Death]

Imagine actually believing Government forced lock downs and total shutdown of the Economy is "The Free Market"

Pure Comedy

Lol I know...the guy is retarded

[Basanos]

Imagine actually believing Government forced lock downs and total shutdown of the Economy is "The Free Market"

Pure ComedyIt's always amusing how poor your grasp on capitalism is

[Elizondo]

It's always amusing how poor your grasp on capitalism is

OK Groomer

[Lune]

Imagine actually believing Government forced lock downs and total shutdown of the Economy is "The Free Market"

Pure Comedy

Show me where there was ever a government-mandated total shutdown of the economy. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

You're equating normal rational people trying to stay home and stay away from COVID as much as possible pre-vaccine with the government forcing them away from businesses. It was never like that, except for restaurants in some states and/or counties.

The PPP was not a handout to negate government-enforced shutdowns, but market-driven precipitous decreases in business across many different sectors, due to people hunkering down as much as possible waiting for the vaccine. This is why there was so much pent-up 'spending money' to later drive inflation. You'd know this except you and everyone you know probably thought, and continues to think, COVID is a bunch of Chinese nanobots installing 5G reception in your brains, and you can't stomach the thought that a vast cross-section of society took precautions, potentially sparing themselves later vascular dementia but devastating the economy in the short term.

[Basanos]

Between 1941 and 1944 capitalism was completely cancelled, as The Free Market was closed

[Lune]

OK Groomer

No bigger groomer in this country than a Christian.

[Elizondo]

Show me where there was ever a government-mandated total shutdown of the economy. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

You're equating normal rational people trying to stay home and stay away from COVID as much as possible pre-vaccine with the government forcing them away from businesses. It was never like that, except for restaurants in some states and/or counties.

The PPP was not a handout to negate government-enforced shutdowns, but market-driven precipitous decreases in business across many different sectors, due to people hunkering down as much as possible waiting for the vaccine. This is why there was so much pent-up 'spending money' to later drive inflation. You'd know this except you and everyone you know probably thought, and continues to think, COVID is a bunch of Chinese nanobots installing 5G reception in your brains, and you can't stomach the thought that a vast cross-section of society took precautions, potentially sparing themselves later vascular dementia but devastating the economy in the short term.

You're acting like the PPP was just money The Government had laying around for a rainy day

Hilarious

[Lune]

You're acting like the PPP was just money The Government had laying around for a rainy day

Hilarious

No I'm not, it was debt-driven, and entirely fraudulently used due to Republican removal of virtually all oversight in proper use of the funds. (https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-top-news-politics-health-cc921bccf9f7abd27da996ef772823e4)

Show me where there was ever a government-mandated total shutdown of the economy. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

[Lune]

Funny you retarded hicks are all about the bennies when you think they benefit you lol

[goblinmob]

...

[Elizondo]

No I'm not, it was debt-driven, and entirely fraudulently used due to Republican removal of virtually all oversight in proper use of the funds. (https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-top-news-politics-health-cc921bccf9f7abd27da996ef772823e4)

What about going around Congress to forgive Student Loan Debt?

Is that fraudulent?

[Basanos]

It's moving the goalposts

[Encroaching Death]

you retarded hicks

Democrats definitely support the working class, guys

Rofl

[Lune]

What about

naw, that isn't how you have a discussion

https://i.imgur.com/IwjyeTt.jpg

[Elizondo]

Democrats definitely support the working class, guys

Rofl

"Non Essential" businesses were shut down by Government fiat while Dem donors like Bezos made out like bandits. All media driven hysteria. You even had Governors like Cuomo pack the most vulnerable into a can like sardines with virus bombs waiting to wipe them out on purpose in an effort to drive up the fatalities and generate more scary headlines

Covid was an excuse for Dems to crush The Free Market and grab authoritarian power. Nothing more.

The attempts at gaslighting is this thread are comical and embarrassing

naw, that isn't how you have a discussion

Have you read the Subject line of this thread?

lol

[Lune]

Democrats definitely support the working class, guys

Rofl

Given that the "working class" (read: rural poor) you're talking about votes overwhelmingly for Republicans, I'd say even the working class doesn't support the working class.

[Encroaching Death]

Given that the "working class" (read: rural poor) you're talking about votes overwhelmingly for Republicans, I'd say even the working class doesn't support the working class.

"Please vote for us! We'll call you retarded hicks!"

lol

[Elizondo]

Imagine claiming "Whataboutism" (when the OP tries to get the discussion back on topic) after you derail the thread with "Whataboutism"

3WShMzwT-nM

[Reiwa]

Democrats definitely support the working class, guys

Rofl

As a Democrat, PPP good.

[Mblake1981]

I hear to be more worldly I should eat sushi and wear tight pants.

[Basanos]

"Please vote for us! We'll call you retarded hicks!"

lolDespite the shitty messaging Democrats send working class reasonable people, Republicans still lose elections

Makes you really wonder about messaging, or it would, if you weren't an imbecile

[Encroaching Death]

Despite the shitty messaging Democrats send working class reasonable people, Republicans still lose elections

Makes you really wonder about messaging, or it would, if you weren't an imbecile

Having a near monoply on media, news, and instituting dubious voting laws definitely has nothing to do with it...

It's all Democrat messaging...

You have to censor, lie, and constantly pump out propaganda to win.

[Jibartik]

Biden & Grandaughter just showing family love.

https://i.imgur.com/3TPb7Tn.png

https://i.imgur.com/bUphJ7G.png

https://i.imgur.com/dMMP9ZK.png

[Basanos]

A fractured left apparently beats a united right

You can stay mad about it or you can learn from it

[Mblake1981]

We goin back to schooo daddeee

[Encroaching Death]

The right isn't united.

The establishment right is absolutely at odds with rightwing voters. Why do you think Trump happened??

Have you been paying attention? Jesus, the left STILL don't understand conservatives...

[Basanos]

Wait, you don't eat sushi?

[Reiwa]

1992 blake, you zoomering?

[Mblake1981]

Wait, you don't eat sushi?

fuck no

[Encroaching Death]

Wait, you don't eat sushi?

It's cultural appropiation. Might get arrested by your moral woke police.

[Basanos]

fuck noWhy not? You eat regular seafood?

I would also be curious if you eat Indian food.

[Reiwa]

Jib, Bernie wants to nationalize the healthcare

[Mblake1981]

Why not? You eat regular seafood?

I would also be curious if you eat Indian food.

I don't eat seafood. Indian food is just baked beans with chutney.

[Encroaching Death]

And the right voters are not anymore united than left voters.

Trump was a wedge for the voters and establishment, don't @ me how I know that.

So do us all a big favor and get off our back here on this forum, will ya. Go bark at the establishment again because no one here that can hear you is going to make shit of difference.

Less than 10% of Conservative voters didn't like Trump.

That's united.

[Jibartik]

Jib, Bernie wants to nationalize the healthcare

I realized my sentence was way too difficult to parse so I had to delete it.

But, bernie represented the last sliver of hope this country had to not fall into satanism.

What god offered:

https://i.imgur.com/kSP2gUU.png

How the democrats reacted:

https://i.imgur.com/dj7Y2w0.png

What satan offered:

https://i.imgur.com/DhFXAOn.png

How the democrats reacted:

https://i.imgur.com/ApghfIT.png

[Reiwa]

What god offered:

https://i.imgur.com/kSP2gUU.png

How the democrats reacted:

https://i.imgur.com/dj7Y2w0.png

I don't remember this being the reaction. Cool birb.

[Basanos]

I'm glad you are at least refering to them as "the Democrats" now. The Atlantic has been fake leftist for a long time.

I shook Bernie's hand. It was sweaty.

[Jibartik]

Thats fine I either live in another dimension thanks to CERN or just observe hypernorimilzation now happen in real time :o

[Mblake1981]

Hasanabi is just Larry the Cable Guy for city folks.

[Reiwa]

What satan offered:

https://i.imgur.com/DhFXAOn.png

How the democrats reacted:

https://i.imgur.com/ApghfIT.png

Electoral Count Act probably unnecessary unless Mikey coulda did the epic gamer move Tromp wanted him to.

[Encroaching Death]

Democrats claim to love "Democracy" but still use the Super Delegate system

[Reiwa]

Hasanabi is just Larry the Cable Guy for city folks.

nice

[Reiwa]

Democrats claim to love "Democracy" but still use the Super Delegate system

Their internal constituents voted to do so; it's a private company.

[Jibartik]

Robinson Meyer, a writer for The Atlantic, coined the term Bernie bro in an October 17, 2015 article to describe young, white, progressive men who, in his view, support unrealistic progressive policies and promote the Bernie Sanders campaign obnoxiously.

He's talking about the 12 apostles.

https://i.imgur.com/qxRjkRk.png

[Basanos]

Hasanabi is just Larry the Cable Guy for city folks.I prefer Beau of the Fifth Column

https://youtube.com/@BeauoftheFifthColumn

[Encroaching Death]

Their internal constituents voted to do so; it's a private company.

Lol

[Jibartik]

I bet if bernie sanderse got elected we'd all be in burning alive in automated tesla cars and jacked into the neural link right now instead of arguing.

[Encroaching Death]

Super Delegates are the most democratic system constructed by a private company for Democrat voters

Lolololol

[Jibartik]

I know its not nice of me to say but that debbie wasserman woman looks like some kind of bird hawk rat demon human hybrid.

[Jibartik]

demon-cratic amiright

[Basanos]

I at least associated his choice with a popular person. Did you want me to hold his arms while you try hitting him?I promote those with generally good takes

Hasan isn't usually one of them but I have lost track of most of that since I axed Twitter and stopped listening to Chapo. I have never watched a Twitch stream and never will

[Reiwa]

Super Delegates are the most democratic system constructed by a private company for Democrat voters

Lolololol

Not fair to use the horse laugh when you know I'm right.

[Basanos]

Let me be first to pat you on the back.

So Hasan has bad takes? did you know Larry is not really a redneck?Yeah, I did know that. I liked Ron the most from that crew.

[Jibartik]

I like how we shifted boomers into geriatrics, and melinials into boomers

[Encroaching Death]

Super Delegates are the most democratic system constructed by a private company for Democrat voters

Lolololol

Super Delegates seem like a "threat to democracy" to me...

(lol)

[Encroaching Death]

The Democratic voters chose Bernie.

The Super Delegates had other plans...

The most democratic party in the country, folks!

(lol)

[Basanos]

My geriatric parents loved those guys.My geriatric dad thinks Seth MacFarlane is the greatest thing to happen to comedy in history. You choose your battles

https://i.imgur.com/mw08PLG.jpeg

[Reiwa]

Super Delegates seem like a "threat to democracy" to me...

(lol)

Party elections aren't government elections. There's no rules for what the rules are.

[Encroaching Death]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Democracy about letting the people choose their leader?

It's kind of weird when the people choose their leader, and then a shadowy cabal of party members say "Fuck you" and choose something different.

Is that Democracy? I'm no good with politics. Is that what they refer to as "democracy"?

Lolololol

[Reiwa]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Democracy about letting the people choose their leader?

It's kind of weird when the people choose their leader, and then a shadowy cabal of party members say "Fuck you" and choose something different.

Is that Democracy? I'm no good with politics. Is that what they refer to as "democracy"?

Lolololol

The party voted to have super delegates.

[Encroaching Death]

Party elections aren't government elections. There's no rules for what the rules are.

Ah, so you only like democracy...sometimes.

Lololol

[Encroaching Death]

The party voted to have super delegates.

What if voters didn't want Super Delegates anymore?

Would the Super Delegates block their vote?

Lololol

[Reiwa]

What if voters didn't want Super Delegates anymore?

Would the Super Delegates block their vote?

Lololol

Why would there be delegates in rulemaking vote, goof troop?

[Encroaching Death]

Why would there be delegates in rulemaking vote, goof troop?

I don't know. The party seems so democratic otherwise, I'm SURE they would respect the vote hahaha

[Reiwa]

I don't know. The party seems so democratic otherwise, I'm SURE they would respect the vote hahaha

Supers are the reward carrot for people who do a lot of work for the party, generally for free or very cheaply.

[Encroaching Death]

Supers are the reward carrot for people who do a lot of work for the party, generally for free or very cheaply.

Oh, I'm sure there are rewards given out to people who "help" ;)

[Jibartik]

Justice is blind.

no doubt about that

https://i.imgur.com/iHrJtSC.png

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/mw08PLG.jpeg

Thats a pretty funny pic

[Jibartik]

The party voted.

https://i.imgur.com/l11vKCV.gif

[Basanos]

Just remember the Hunter Biden photos are real but those dinosaur bones at the natural history museum are all plaster casts of hoaxes and the election was stolen twice no there's no evidence tho

[Reiwa]

Just remember the Hunter Biden photos are real but those dinosaur bones at the natural history museum are all plaster casts of hoaxes and the election was stolen twice no there's no evidence tho

Fossils themselves aren't 'real', the bones(or whatever) are replaced by rock through... (some geologic process) @Starkind

[Jibartik]

If life is a simulation then everyone is right and wrong at the same time

https://i.imgur.com/F0QRq4p.png

Doesnt make hunter biden any less guilty of 5 years mandatory minimum for position alone.

[Basanos]

Fossils themselves aren't 'real', the bones(or whatever) are replaced by rock through... (some geologic process) @StarkindPetrification

And more than just bones can fossilize, it is just more likely to happen to bones!

[Reiwa]

If life is a simulation then everyone is right and wrong at the same time

https://i.imgur.com/F0QRq4p.png

Doesnt make hunter biden any less guilty of 5 years mandatory minimum for position alone.

No, You Do Not Have a Constitutional Right to Post Hunter Biden’s Dick Pic on Twitter (https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitutional-right-to-post-hunter-bidens-dick-pic-on-twitter/)

[Elizondo]

Just remember the Hunter Biden photos are real but those dinosaur bones at the natural history museum are all plaster casts of hoaxes and the election was stolen twice no there's no evidence tho

lol Giant Monsters

Go back to your coloring books

FYI there are no 'real' giant monster bones displayed in a museum. Just "composites"

Hope that helps

[Jibartik]

No, You Do Not Have a Constitutional Right to Post Hunter Biden’s Dick Pic on Twitter (https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitutional-right-to-post-hunter-bidens-dick-pic-on-twitter/)

funniest thing elon ever saw was a dead dear lol (https://bowiestate.libguides.com/CRJU410-001/serialkillersaschildren)

[Mblake1981]

These perceptions and enigmas, bros

https://i.imgur.com/mkCPR0k.jpg

[unsunghero]

If it’s just a pic of Hunter’s junk, it would be inappropriate in every sense

If it was a pic of him naked doing meth with an underage looking escort then yea, that’s a reflection of the character of the current president’s son, and therefore a (slight) reflection of the president

Just like I mentioned before, if it was discovered Hunter B had a basement full of severed escort heads, it’s not like the media could go “come on now guys, he’s not involved in politics so let’s not talk about him”. And it would look really, REALLY bad on Joe Biden

So there is a level of debauchery that matters. But yea, no one should have any interest in posting or seeing his junk for its own sake, WTF

[Jibartik]

A person found with five grams of crack cocaine faces a five-year mandatory minimum prison sentence.

https://i.imgur.com/Y85lhFt.png

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/Y85lhFt.png

Mandatory minimums are horseshit and bad justice.

[Jibartik]

Mandatory minimums are horseshit and bad justice.

How an early Biden crime bill created the sentencing disparity for crack and cocaine trafficking (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-an-early-biden-crime-bill-created-the-sentencing-disparity-for-crack-and-cocaine-trafficking/2019/07/28/5cbb4c98-9dcf-11e9-85d6-5211733f92c7_story.html)

https://i.imgur.com/q1iIxN2.png

https://i.imgur.com/7lrM8zE.gif

[hobart]

How an early Biden crime bill created the sentencing disparity for crack and cocaine trafficking (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-an-early-biden-crime-bill-created-the-sentencing-disparity-for-crack-and-cocaine-trafficking/2019/07/28/5cbb4c98-9dcf-11e9-85d6-5211733f92c7_story.html)

https://i.imgur.com/q1iIxN2.png

https://i.imgur.com/7lrM8zE.gif

If any of you were alive and adults at this time, you'd remember that EVERYONE in America was for all of the anti-drug, anti-gang, and strict sentencing laws passed at this time. Democrats. Republicans. Blacks. Whites. Everyone.

There was a time when politicians did what a majority of the electorate wanted. They don't anymore.

Only purity test wokesters and grievance-politics magatards blame politicians for doing what a majority of the people wanted done at the time.

[Reiwa]

If any of you were alive and adults at this time, you'd remember that EVERYONE in America was for all of the anti-drug, anti-gang, and strict sentencing laws passed at this time. Democrats. Republicans. Blacks. Whites. Everyone.

There was a time when politicians did what a majority of the electorate wanted. They don't anymore.

Only purity test wokesters and grievance-politics magatards blame politicians for doing what a majority of the people wanted done at the time.

Have we offended the senses of the 'Holy' Majority, milord?

https://i.imgur.com/zrFQPRU.jpeg

[goblinmob]

You have passed the first test.. though it is the first of many..

[Basanos]

So I just had a worldly meal, you gentlemen would be very impressed with me.

I had some baked beans, when do I get my Angelina Jolie world citizen passport?My extensive research shows baked beans are native american in origin

You get no beans points until you are willing to eat natto

[Reiwa]

So when Indians eat baked beans they are eating a worldly meal, lol

Hey guise, these selections of herbs and spices will change you.

Are there 11 of them?

[Basanos]

So when Indians eat baked beans they are eating a worldly meal, lol

Hey guise, these selections of herbs and spices will change you.No, baked beans are still continental, the English probably only adopted them due to colonialism and maybe something to do with maple syrup lasting the voyage intact. You don't get points with the Irish for eating potatoes, but you might in Peru.

[Reiwa]

No, baked beans are still continental, the English probably only adopted them due to colonialism and maybe something to do with maple syrup lasting the voyage intact. You don't get points with the Irish for eating potatoes, but you might in Peru.

Potatoes are native to the Americas. Based Irish enthusiastic cultural exchange.

[Mblake1981]

No, baked beans are still continental, the English probably only adopted them due to colonialism and maybe something to do with maple syrup lasting the voyage intact. You don't get points with the Irish for eating potatoes, but you might in Peru.

Acceptable, what if a wealthy Indian buys me a steak?

[Basanos]

Acceptable, what if a wealthy Indian buys me a steak?Too many variables, just use your best judgement

[Mblake1981]

Too many variables, just use your best judgement

box lunch
https://i.imgur.com/BzNysuy.jpg

[Reiwa]

Acceptable, what if a wealthy Indian buys me a steak?

Brahmins can't hurt cows. Dunno if all of them are Brahmins.

[Mblake1981]

Brahmins can't hurt cows. Dunno if all of them are Brahmins.

Some visit Las Vegas.

[Reiwa]

Some visit Las Vegas.

I'm actually real suspicious of Indians. I get that they're a good bulwark against the Chinese by numbers, but they keep telling us not to eat cows.

I like to eat cows.

[Mblake1981]

I'm actually real suspicious of Indians. I get that they're a good bulwark against the Chinese by numbers, but they keep telling us not to eat cows.

I like to eat cows.

FTlgotBnW_A

[Mblake1981]

the 90s were full of cow mutilations by UFO's, guys in cow costumes by the road holding "I am not Mad" signs.

https://i.imgur.com/zlE4low.jpg

[Mblake1981]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_(The_X-Files)

https://i.imgur.com/E4X0Anw.jpg

[Mblake1981]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3534797&postcount=8

[Kaveh]

No bigger groomer in this country than a Christian.

Elizondo isn’t a Christian, he’s a Catholic

Huge difference

[Mblake1981]

PYx37rf8MU0

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/pTTa82E.jpg

[Jibartik]

Elizondo isn’t a Christian, he’s a Catholic

Huge difference

on believes in the bible, the other believes in whatever the fuck they want and use the bible as an excuse to be illiterate.

[Reiwa]

on believes in the bible, the other believes in whatever the fuck they want and use the bible as an excuse to be illiterate.

Which is which and which is gooder? (They're both bad)

[Mblake1981]

Which is which and which is gooder? (They're both bad)

Too many variables, just use your best judgement

[Danth]

Which is which and which is gooder?

Catholic, Orthodox, and Coptic churches tend to be the truest Christian sects. Protestant faiths, with some exceptions,usually amount to religion-lite for folks who want the trappings of religion without substance. I stand on the other side though. I regard the cultures they come with as more good than bad and as much as I might gripe about some aspects of protestant culture, that's still much preferable to most other alternatives.

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/y7BDp56.png

INTJ on the Google quiz huh?

[Reiwa]

Sure but that isn't an INTJ quiz

Is it a horrorscope?

[RandyGolden]

Don't you still know that there are people who help with homework? Go to this site paperwriter review (https://chromatopia.org/paperwriter-review/) and you will find good essay writers who will do everything for you for little money. You can forget about what homework is and just spend more time with your friends at the bar. It costs a lot of money.

[Duik]

I'm still sad I don't have a degree. Said OP prolly.

[Basanos]

This thread needed a "current events" bump

I don't have a fancy college education (community college) but I fully support anything that makes for-profit education a tougher sell.

Americans are cucked by capitalism when it comes to education and healthcare

[aussenseiter]

This thread needed a "current events" bump

I don't have a fancy college education (community college) but I fully support anything that makes for-profit education a tougher sell.

Americans are cucked by capitalism when it comes to education and healthcare

Reading around says it's dead on the merits but could squeak by on standing. (https://twitter.com/MikeSacksEsq/status/1630590264015192066)

[Botten]

Reading around says it's dead on the merits but could squeak by on standing. (https://twitter.com/MikeSacksEsq/status/1630590264015192066)


Biden administration lawyer may have saved student loan forgiveness plan at Supreme Court, experts say (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/01/supreme-court-biden-loan-forgiveness-plan-chances.html)

.

[aussenseiter]

Biden administration lawyer may have saved student loan forgiveness plan at Supreme Court, experts say (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/01/supreme-court-biden-loan-forgiveness-plan-chances.html)

.

I'm skeptical a Neocon Congress would have intended to forgive young people.

[unsunghero]

Lol Matt Walsh saying credentialism pushing libs are saying he’s too dumb to have an opinion on anything but aren’t smart enough to figure out how to pay off their own student loans

[magnetaress]

I was too dumb for college and am now too fat and weak for labor. It's not like I can sit on a crate at a fish cannery for hours and hours either.

[Elinor15]

Yeah it’s dumb. It isn’t clear that he has the legal authority to do this (https://playonlinecasinoaustralia.com).

Imperial presidency SAD BIGLY. Also lol @ you reading reason, you a libertarian now? You gonna join me in ending EMTALA ?

I like court stuff so volokh for court stuff. It's so sassy.

Haven't knowingly looked at the rest.

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I like court stuff so volokh for court stuff. It's so sassy.

Haven't knowingly looked at the rest.

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Technology is a bitch. Half the modern university is effectively free now.

I had to be walking distance to a research university that was ideally open 24/7 to get my degree and get it fat with research. Nothing was digitized except the card catalogue. Which had just got fully replaced.

So put aside politics and maybe look at the world like a technological determinist does. The brick and mortar college is *mostly* doable remotely and tbh, if you are a self-starter, you can teach yourself a BA (not a BS) with some pennies-on-the-dollar tutoring for hard stuff.

Some people are trying to figure out how to save the brick and mortar Higher Ed infrastructure (all 50 states! It's vast!!) of this country via forgiveness, subsidies and whatnot. God bless them for trying!

Saving brick and mortar higher ed would be as dumb as trying to save brick and mortar Blockbuster stores. We ain't that rich!! The big schools will always dish out the status tickets, but the smart money can get a BA for maybe 5 grand? Thgat's even getting a few laid-off profs to baby-walk you through hard topic.

The Masters degree will remain as a valuable creditial in some fields. The doctorate absolutely*must* be saved.

But good luck running this bidness on the back of 20 somethings anymore lol.

Putting aside social reasons, if you can't teach yourself a basic B.A. course of study, you likely are not a college person anyway.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

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I can get a few grand being a "dissertation mentor" for people who can't fucking do their dissertation. My brother actually tried to set me up with a company.

If you do not understand why I wanted to punch him the throat when he told me, I can't explain it to you.

Or maybe I can. Ever hear of the term stolen valor?

Apply that to academia.

But college is dead. I'd supervise and tutor a student through a BA course that I could piece together from solely online stuff and verify the results for 10k total. You get one "office hour" a day, MWF, and I grade your exams. BA. Have to get someone do the quantitative classes. I have no clue how numbers work.

The colleges KNOW this is what's coming btw. This is as predictable as ... the death of blockbuster.

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