Power leveling should be banned

[Selene]

it is really annoying to see people cheating at the game and not putting in the blood, sweat, and tears to get their levels....especially hate seeing bards running around with the entire zone's mobs while 3-4 guildies sit there as part of the group and just do nothing.

this style of play abuses the intent/spirit of the game if not the mechanics as well, and not to mention extremely disruptive to everyone else who wants to play it fair.

get a life you bard losers!!! to paraphrase some of my favorite skeletons out there...

"I really hate Bards like you"

[Ripqozko]

Bards were already nerfed, be glad you didn't play then. Hope that helps.

[Twochain]

it is really annoying to see people cheating at the game and not putting in the blood, sweat, and tears to get their levels....especially hate seeing druids running around with the entire zone's mobs while 3-4 guildies sit there as part of the group and just do nothing.

this style of play abuses the intent/spirit of the game if not the mechanics as well, and not to mention extremely disruptive to everyone else who wants to play it fair.

get a life you bard losers!!! to paraphrase some of my favorite skeletons out there...

"I really hate druids like you"

[Zuranthium]

I support:

Level requirements on equipment, level requirements on buff effects, and limitations on how quickly people can level.

[Chortles Snortles]

Gandalf shouldn’t have plvld the hobbits amirite

[Selene]

it is really annoying to see people cheating at the game and not putting in the blood, sweat, and tears to get their levels....especially hate seeing druids running around with the entire zone's mobs while 3-4 guildies sit there as part of the group and just do nothing.

this style of play abuses the intent/spirit of the game if not the mechanics as well, and not to mention extremely disruptive to everyone else who wants to play it fair.

get a life you bard losers!!! to paraphrase some of my favorite skeletons out there...

"I really hate druids like you"


to be clear, i'm against power-leveling from anyone, including druids. but at least druids dont take up the entire zone's mobs!

i mean, why play the game if you're just gonna bypass the whole game itself....and no, it isn't just about raiding and those little toys you get in a video game!!!

[Grumph]

Solid point imo.

Wow. Basically every single raid related argument, actually hits harder when reversed against the power leveling neckbeard cartels.

“They play the game the wrong way! We’re playing it as intended!”

“They're cheating! We’re following the rules!”

“They’re over immersed! We limit our playtime to healthy levels!”

[l0053g0053]

I get fuzzy feelings when I hop on my druid and POTG / Group wolf form lowbies in Kelethin.

[Twochain]

It's not cheating, it's how games from this era function.

In diablo 2, you get game rushed to hell at level 1 and go from 1 - 80 doing hell chaos/baal runs in like 2 hours.

That being said, it STILL takes upwards of 50-100 hours of actual playtime to level some these characters. That's still a tremendous time sink.

Filing this under resolved

[Tethler]

it is really annoying to see people cheating at the game and not putting in the blood, sweat, and tears to get their levels....especially hate seeing bards running around with the entire zone's mobs while 3-4 guildies sit there as part of the group and just do nothing.

this style of play abuses the intent/spirit of the game if not the mechanics as well, and not to mention extremely disruptive to everyone else who wants to play it fair.

get a life you bard losers!!! to paraphrase some of my favorite skeletons out there...

"I really hate Bards like you"

Power leveling is classic AF

Your opinion is bad, and you should feel bad

[Jibartik]

Bother them until they flip the F out OP!!!!

[magnetaress]

If you played on red at least u could gank the lvl 50 druids.

[Foxplay]

Its their choice

For some its just end-game is the game
For some its about the journey
For some its about being as rich as Jeff Bezos in EC tunnel

[Tethler]

If you played on red at least u could gank the lvl 50 druids.

Nobody plays on red, so camp disputes would be quite the rarity.

[goblinmob]

Log off. Vacuum your living room. Do the dishes. By the time you're done grumbling about it, you will have accidentally been productive in real life and by the time you log back on, they'll probably already be gone.

I think you misconstrue the event of being in the presence of anything you don't like with actually being significantly impacted by it.

[Kohedron]

it's classic, stfu, go outside, etc

[Basanos]

Play extremely drunk all problems in-game disappear

[goblinmob]

Play extremely drunk all problems in-game disappear

Hahaha this is far better advice than it first appears to be!

[Ooloo]

While I totally sympathize cause I too despise bards running in circles with a giant swarm of mobs while guild coth bot #346537 sits afk soaking up xp, I wouldn't want it to be actually against the rules.

That made me think though, couldn't that be considered AFK leveling? Mages aren't allowed to just have their pets sit on a spawn and kill it all day right? I mean I know it involves a non-afk person (the bard) but it's almost the same thing! And chardok aoe groups were banned and that was powerleveling to the extreme.

[Basanos]

Hahaha this is far better advice than it first appears to be!I can play this game hammered, or I used to

But if I get blazed I can't. If I get blazed I feel a powerful urge to clean, and then play console games, in that order. Lately it has been Breath of the Wild, I know I am a bit late to that party but that doesn't make it any less fun

[Ooloo]

Breath of the wild owns.. I've sunk like 500 hours into that game. Can't wait for the sequel to finally come out.

[Basanos]

Breath of the wild owns.. I've sunk like 500 hours into that game. Can't wait for the sequel to finally come out.I been enjoying the hell out of it.

I actually played Immortals: Fenyx Rising first, which was compared to BotW a lot though not nearly as big of a hit. I guess. It was fun, too.

This is probably a dead horse, but the weapons breaking in BotW is not my favorite mechanic in the world. This is the first Zelda game I have played since the original ones on the NES, so maybe it's been in all of them for all I remember.

[Rager and Quitter]

I think PLing in most zones during peak times is prohibited, and considered zone disruption when other normal groups are around trying to exp. Or at least I feel like that used to be a thing, although rules change around here fairly regularly. Charm their mobs and SoW them or train them or something to fuck with them. Maybe train the afk people or something, I dunno. Fuck em.

[goblinmob]

I been enjoying the hell out of it.

I actually played Immortals: Fenyx Rising first, which was compared to BotW a lot though not nearly as big of a hit. I guess. It was fun, too.

This is probably a dead horse, but the weapons breaking in BotW is not my favorite mechanic in the world. This is the first Zelda game I have played since the original ones on the NES, so maybe it's been in all of them for all I remember.

I got this one on my shelf waiting for the right moment! I always liked that cel shaded art style like ummm the boat one..Wind Waker! That was a good one too!

[goblinmob]

I think PLing in most zones during peak times is prohibited, and considered zone disruption when other normal groups are around trying to exp. Or at least I feel like that used to be a thing, although rules change around here fairly regularly. Charm their mobs and SoW them or train them or something to fuck with them. Maybe train the afk people or something, I dunno. Fuck em.

Lol Memblur/Nuke

[Jibartik]

The journey: Zone disrupting the disrupters

The grind: Posting about how you cant grind because zone disruption.

[MrSparkle001]

Gandalf shouldn’t have plvld the hobbits amirite

He didn't. He dropped group to steal the Balrog kill, then came back max level with new gear.

[Bardp1999]

You would have loved Chardok AOE if you think its bad now

[Balimon]

Is this a troll thread? What do you care how other people play the game? Bards can be annoying but stay out of the zones where they swarm? No one is telling you how to play my dude

[Ooloo]

This is probably a dead horse, but the weapons breaking in BotW is not my favorite mechanic in the world. This is the first Zelda game I have played since the original ones on the NES, so maybe it's been in all of them for all I remember.

Yeah if I could change one thing about the game it would be to roughly double the durability of every weapon before it breaks. I mean I get why they did it cause this is the first open world zelda game, but whenever I find a nice weapon I almost don't wanna use it cause I know it's gonna shatter.

Oh also the sliding down walls when it's raining, that gets old fast. But the game is so damn good I can look past both things.

[Valrok]

Power leveling is classic AF

Your opinion is bad, and you should feel bad

[Tunabros]

OP mad that the bard he pmed on discord is overcharging him for PBAOE leveling

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/Ojkwrz1.jpg

[long.liam]

Powerleveling will never be banned. Even if proven to be "not classic", which it is classic, but even if so people would just move on to other servers if it doesn't meet their time constraints. I always find it funny when people here insist on things being more "difficult" or "challenging" here. If little fantasy is that everyone will just start grouping again and all the low level zones will somehow just get populated by tons of players, I'm afraid you're quite dillusional. The server is already underpopulated as it is. People will go where their play time is best invested. If playing requires grouping with "idiots" and taking up to a year to get to max level, most players would leave for greener pastures. Thus completely defeating the original intent of you weirdos, to try to force people to group together, gonna be kinda difficult if there's no one here.

[long.liam]

Also, the Meta is that XP is best either soloing or Duo/Trio with good players. Not full groups of randos.

[Zuranthium]

All of those things can be changed, for a better Everquest server:

1.) Increased group exp
2.) Level restrictions on equipment and buffs, and how quickly it's possible to level
3.) Competition allowed, making full 6-person groups the most desirable thing for being able to control an area you want to fight in
4.) Dynamic NPC spawns and behavior, again making 6-person groups most desirable, so you have the ability to handle content that unexpectedly ramps up in difficulty
5.) Reincarnation system so people are constantly restarting their characters, keeping the low/mid level areas of the game active

People will go where their play time is best invested. If playing requires grouping with "idiots" and taking up to a year to get to max level, most players would leave for greener pastures

Playing an easymode clone of a very outdated game is a bad investment. Most people realize this and would rather a game that rewards adventure and is more unpredictable and full of interesting interactions.

People can choose who they group with, and getting a character to max level certainly wouldn't need to take a year. Although if it did take a year, that's perfectly fine if people are having fun. Level is just an arbitrary number. It just shouldn't feel like a dull grind, which is part of why people feel the need to power level to begin with. When you read a novel you're enjoying, you don't skip ahead to the end. The joy and intellectual stimulation doesn't come from simply reaching the end. It comes from the whole thing.

[Kutark Validus]

it is really annoying to see people cheating at the game and not putting in the blood, sweat, and tears to get their levels....especially hate seeing bards running around with the entire zone's mobs while 3-4 guildies sit there as part of the group and just do nothing.

this style of play abuses the intent/spirit of the game if not the mechanics as well, and not to mention extremely disruptive to everyone else who wants to play it fair.

get a life you bard losers!!! to paraphrase some of my favorite skeletons out there...

"I really hate Bards like you"

You shoulda been around when we were doing ~200 mob chardok pulls on blue...

[Kutark Validus]

All of those things can be changed, for a better Everquest server:

1.) Increased group exp
2.) Level restrictions on equipment and buffs, and how quickly it's possible to level
3.) Competition allowed, making full 6-person groups the most desirable thing for being able to control an area you want to fight in
4.) Dynamic NPC spawns and behavior, again making 6-person groups most desirable, so you have the ability to handle content that unexpectedly ramps up in difficulty
5.) Reincarnation system so people are constantly restarting their characters, keeping the low/mid level areas of the game active
6.) Empty server so the 36 people still playing can have all the camps their hearts desire!


Playing an easymode clone of a very outdated game is a bad investment. Most people realize this and would rather a game that rewards adventure and is more unpredictable and full of interesting interactions.

People can choose who they group with, and getting a character to max level certainly wouldn't need to take a year. Although if it did take a year, that's perfectly fine if people are having fun. Level is just an arbitrary number. It just shouldn't feel like a dull grind, which is part of why people feel the need to power level to begin with. When you read a novel you're enjoying, you don't skip ahead to the end. The joy and intellectual stimulation doesn't come from simply reaching the end. It comes from the whole thing.

Fixed it for u

[Korsk]

and not to mention extremely disruptive to everyone else who wants to play it fair


Sorry you don't have friends to plvl you. loser

[Allishia]

You shoulda been around when we were doing ~200 mob chardok pulls on blue...

Was more like 150 mobs if you had a good pet puller, but ya that was crazy fun :)

[Synphul]

All of those things can be changed, for a better Everquest server:

1.) Increased group exp
2.) Level restrictions on equipment and buffs, and how quickly it's possible to level
3.) Competition allowed, making full 6-person groups the most desirable thing for being able to control an area you want to fight in
4.) Dynamic NPC spawns and behavior, again making 6-person groups most desirable, so you have the ability to handle content that unexpectedly ramps up in difficulty
5.) Reincarnation system so people are constantly restarting their characters, keeping the low/mid level areas of the game active


You should go make a custom server as you described and see if you can even get a full group's worth of people to play on it with you. I think you are wildly overestimating how many people around here would be interested in something like that.

Level is just an arbitrary number.

I guess you could say that if you know absolutely nothing about Everquest.

[cd288]

Well increased group exp on P99 would definitely be nice lol. Would help reduce soloing and make the social aspect of the game more fun.

[PlsNoBan]

Not sure if this is still a thing but didn't it used to be a rule that like if someone was kiting more than 4 mobs / monopolizing an area you could legally rip mobs off of them? Just go pull mobs off their train. Just look at it as a free pulling service and stop being such a nancy.

[Domo]

I didnt fully read the thread but yes, power leveling can destroy the fun for some. However, I still like to give random people a small boost here and there.