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Rager and Quitter
10-29-2022, 12:52 AM
Never going to merge, I said it first.

Duik
10-29-2022, 02:55 AM
For Dogs sake, Be like your name.
/me Continues to Duik.

Goldknyght
10-29-2022, 03:52 AM
Never going to merge, I said it first.

Well technically you didnt, as they kinda walked back the merge and said they listened to feedback and will see how people feel about a merge when the time comes.

mycoolrausch
10-29-2022, 05:39 AM
If they never recycle green what's the point of all their timeline specific patching infrastructure they worked so hard on? They gonna roll out a 3rd server to split the every dwindling classic eq community even more? Merge it up.

Chortles Snortles
10-29-2022, 10:32 AM
OP quivering with worry about imminent server merge
(lol)

Videri
10-29-2022, 10:57 AM
If they never recycle green what's the point of all their timeline specific patching infrastructure they worked so hard on?

Merge it up.

Ripqozko
10-29-2022, 12:25 PM
There won't be a merge, sorry you don't got.

Tann
10-29-2022, 12:34 PM
Did they ever claim 100% that it was happening or was it a soft maybe?

SantagarBrax
10-29-2022, 01:34 PM
Merger needs to happen, make it so!

Evia
10-29-2022, 07:18 PM
They never confirmed the merge would happen. As others have already said they mentioned merging and then walked it back and said they would see.

My guess is it will only happen if they do another fresh server and I don't anticipate that for a while, if at all.

CancerMage
10-29-2022, 07:32 PM
Never going to merge, I said it first.


duh

CancerMage
10-29-2022, 07:33 PM
merging would just be a huge RMT fest. and thats why blue wants it so bad. the only people left ont hat server are RMTers holding large wealth.

l0053g0053
10-29-2022, 07:48 PM
Dude I just started playing on Blue again. I missed green launch and really did not want to restart completely just to get merged into blue.

Is there any definitive plans? Where were the " Vague " suggestions they rolled back?

I need to be spoon fed I literally just did four trunk or treat events and got around 40lbs of candy. I cant move.

loramin
10-29-2022, 08:03 PM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Green#How_Will_it_Work.3F

l0053g0053
10-29-2022, 08:37 PM
Thank you very much. I weighed the bag and it was 36.5 lbs of candy.

https://i.ibb.co/18YJnnh/1610393927655.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Naethyn
10-29-2022, 08:38 PM
I hope they never merge. Blue has been so much better since green.

Swish
10-30-2022, 12:36 AM
Merge green into red.

branamil
10-30-2022, 01:31 AM
If they never recycle green what's the point of all their timeline specific patching infrastructure they worked so hard on?


Working hard is a bit of an exaggeration. They've abandoned the project. We're lucky to get 1 update per year, and it won't be the things we need it will be like, making sure a certain vendor sells berries.

Fammaden
10-30-2022, 07:59 AM
I hope they never merge. Blue has been so much better since green.

Don't worry most of them will just go to the next green, will be a slight population boost but nothing excessive will be permanent.

l0053g0053
10-30-2022, 11:47 AM
I do not see how there could be another PVE server with the populations already split. I understand the logistics of doing the " Merge " would be very harsh. Ruining stable economy, and tons of people raging about name transfers ect.

I just want a big server population again. I disliked how its 550 on blue and 950 on green last night. I was alone in a lot of areas, which is fine for a wizard, but it was a little depressing. Its all my fault since I dumped my P on some Jboots like a year before green and missed the launch so will never get a guise ect.

The population difference is annoying since every leveling zone is a ghost town, or maybe a guild PLing people, ignoring a poor wizard lfg ;w; (lol worst group class i know)

I was so excited for green when that period for a few months when casters are the big damage dealers compared to melee, so will miss that forever I guess.

IF there was a NEW server, I would probably migrate over. IF there was a merge.

ALL of my characters togther on a single server would make me really happy, and I would not mind as much since then it would be the " Sandbox " server where all your gear/chars are together. I just dont like the idea of multiple, static servers constantly dropping the population. Eventually making enough servers might get daybreak interested?

I just know. I always donate every year I play, and they do it for free, so its hard to complain.

cd288
10-30-2022, 11:19 PM
They never confirmed the merge would happen. As others have already said they mentioned merging and then walked it back and said they would see.

My guess is it will only happen if they do another fresh server and I don't anticipate that for a while, if at all.

People forget the context to this was like 2k something people being on Green at the time. They made this statement in the context of let’s see if in three years we still have this type of population in which case we could support three pve servers. We don’t have that population anymore.

Aeaolena
10-30-2022, 11:35 PM
https://imgur.com/lzVYe28.jpg

Vormotus
10-31-2022, 12:16 AM
I just want a big server population again. I disliked how its 550 on blue and 950 on green last night. I was alone in a lot of areas, which is fine for a wizard, but it was a little depressing. Its all my fault since I dumped my P on some Jboots like a year before green and missed the launch so will never get a guise ect.

.

Dont want to sound contrarian, but merging green and blue wont make the pop magically stay high forever.

Personally, having certain guilds and people on diff servers is actually healthier for people at endgame than forcing the toxicity of certain type of players in a single one.

I am not alone thinking that keeping some people apart is the best outcome for the two servers, but then again, we wont have an official answer until after Jan 2023 anyway as explained by the devs themselves.

I would love a new fresh Teal server but dont know if it will ever happen, but if nothing would ever happen Id rather things stay as they are now until pops are so low merging the two servers would be the best for the community and much more cost effective as well for people keeping the servers up and running.

In my own experience I am server hopping at the moment, trying new things and classes that will never exist in P99 or even live (Gnome Beastlords are the best, also Troll Druids!!!, man that rocks so much haha) and I will probably return fully to P99 after the devs say something explicit around Jan or March 2023 if at all.

Fresh starts are amazing for people like me, and several others, hence why Daybreak still launches TLPs and pseudo classic servers. After a certain point all you can do in a velious time locked server is to strive for the top 1% gear in a crowded endgame with people whose attitudes can or can not mix well with yours, and life is too short to shoehorn youself into that pixel delusion if they dont.

For me EQ has always been about the journey, both solo and in groups, and once you rreach a certain point , and with no real horizontal progression it feels stale ... to me anyway.

What I believe P99 has above other servers beside the enforced no botting rule is that amazing sense of disregard for your own time and the ability to spend literal hours just doing something as inane or complex as you want . A perfectly frozen memento of something that is not possible anymore.

It reminds me a bit of the Neo-80s phenomenon, as we are literally reimagining an 80s decade that is even more shiny and neon lighted than the original one. P99 is simply a Neo-99 and it is simply superb in that regard.

A fresh server would simply rekindle that brief moment in time where everything was new, despite the power gamers and level rushers, the core pop will always slowly climb that threadmill with you, helping you climb it and recreate a Neo99 experience that never happened but is real at the same time.

That alone makes this server amazing, and for those times when you need that shiny extra bright neon and feeling of reading Neuromancer like the first time , P99 not only suffices but excels.

So yes, in short, I would love so much a new server, to relive for a few months that time that never happened when I was young, but now that I am old I can recreate in as much possible detail as I can to reminisce as if it happened back in the day and fill for a brief moment that gaping hole that all of us bear within our souls, which for a very small moment, as it passes between us we can feel connected to something that is no more, a Virtual Hiraeth that makes us cry a bit inside as we look into that pixelated sky in Norrath.

Love to everyone as usual my friends.

Big hug to all ! :)

Pootle
10-31-2022, 05:42 AM
I just want a big server population again. I disliked how its 550 on blue and 950 on green last night. I was alone in a lot of areas, which is fine for a wizard, but it was a little depressing..

The population difference is annoying since every leveling zone is a ghost town, or maybe a guild PLing people, ignoring a poor wizard lfg ;w; (lol worst group class i know)


Merging Blue and Green wont magically spawn loads of level 1 characters in the noobie areas begging to group with your wziard, it will just create one even more top heavy server, with even more issues in the end game raiding scene.

magnetaress
10-31-2022, 08:56 AM
Merging Blue and Green wont magically spawn loads of level 1 characters in the noobie areas begging to group with your wziard, it will just create one even more top heavy server, with even more issues in the end game raiding scene.

You're right. Merge green and blue with red 1.0 and launch red 2.0

l0053g0053
10-31-2022, 11:27 AM
I think IF a merge does happen. Everyone from green will probably stick around on Blue 2.0 because they " Got theirs " and invested so much time into chars. It will not feel like a museum so much and the population would stay relatively higher and stable.

Green 2.0 (or teal) would then, from creation, have the mindset of " This is going to be a merge " or maybe they will announce that the Green will merge, and the new one will ne static, since they figured out all the list systems.

I am excited for a new server, when and if it happens, and plan to try and get the experience (maybe some guises)

Never saw the list in action, but I assume you had to be a certain level and not just in the zone? As in the latter I would just do enough death runs to make it to guk, ect)

Solist
10-31-2022, 11:36 AM
Wipe both clean.

First server to kill warders makes the other server lose warders and wake sleeper.

Tewaz
10-31-2022, 11:51 AM
Imagine thinking they will merge two servers when they can't even patch a Druid spell that's been broken for a year.

l0053g0053
10-31-2022, 12:07 PM
Blue 2.0
Green 2.0
You can talk to the POD and teleport to Red 2.0 to have PVP battles and teleport back.
Red 1.0 is burned for fuel

magnetaress
10-31-2022, 12:43 PM
the same people play blue and green and red if they merged population would dip 0% ppl would just have 2 less characters to play, both nilbog and rogean know this.

magnetaress
10-31-2022, 12:44 PM
i for one would prefer to play an alt on a red 2.0 then a stale blue/green forever

loramin
10-31-2022, 12:59 PM
Blue 2.0
Green 2.0
You can talk to the POD and teleport to Red 2.0 to have PVP battles and teleport back.
Red 1.0 is burned for fuel

In all seriousness, I thought they might actually do a variant of that. There was a (100% classic) command called /guildwar, and it let two guilds PvP flag themselves to fight each other.

Sadly they never implemented it on Green, but if they had it would have let Green have a "mini-Red" inside it. There could have been two PvP guilds at war with each other, and if you wanted to PvP you could simply join one of those two guilds. Then if you got tired of it, you could just leave.

It would have let all the PvPers do their PvP thing, but still trade, group, and generally interact with the rest of the (non-PvP) server.

magnetaress
10-31-2022, 01:12 PM
In all seriousness, I thought they might actually do a variant of that. There was a (100% classic) command called /guildwar, and it let two guilds PvP flag themselves to fight each other.

Sadly they never implemented it on Green, but if they had it would have let Green have a "mini-Red" inside it. There could have been two PvP guilds at war with each other, and if you wanted to PvP you could simply join one of those two guilds. Then if you got tired of it, you could just leave.

It would have let all the PvPers do their PvP thing, but still trade, group, and generally interact with the rest of the (non-PvP) server.

There can still be, back when i rerolled on green for a little bit I rolled a red char on green and there was like 14 other ppl who all pvpd with me in qeynos it was good times.

All ppl have to do is flag pvp and stick with it and not be big babies. And PnP needs to be deleted from all three servers.

magnetaress
10-31-2022, 01:13 PM
enchanters need to be nerfed into the ground too

loramin
10-31-2022, 01:22 PM
There can still be, back when i rerolled on green for a little bit I rolled a red char on green and there was like 14 other ppl who all pvpd with me in qeynos it was good times.

All ppl have to do is flag pvp and stick with it and not be big babies. And PnP needs to be deleted from all three servers.

True, but if you PvP flag yourself on a non-PvP server, there are limits. For instance, I don't think non-PvPers can heal you, which makes joining groups difficult.

As I understood it, being in a guild war guild wouldn't have had that side effect.

Knuckle
10-31-2022, 01:28 PM
merge committee, merge it clean.

Videri
11-05-2022, 03:29 AM
They never confirmed the merge would happen. As others have already said they mentioned merging and then walked it back and said they would see.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333743

"Green Lifetime
The green server will, at a time yet to be decided, eventually merge into blue and start over again. This merge will not happen until at least 6 months after the last patch in velious (No earlier than January 2023)."

People need to start citing sources.

Videri
11-05-2022, 03:36 AM
The point of P99 is not Blue Server. Nor is it Green Server. The point has always been to relive the first couple years of EverQuest by progressing through the patch history month by month. So launch, adjustments, add Fear, add Hate, add Sky, add Kunark, adjustments, add Epics, adjustments, add Velious, adjustments, and end.

And after completing the timeline, we go through the timeline again.

And we merge each server back into Blue, so you can always go play your characters whenever you want, in a living Norrath.

This is the goal of the Project. It's frustrating people don't understand that, or are in denial about it.

Tethler
11-05-2022, 04:20 AM
The point of P99 is not Blue Server. Nor is it Green Server. The point has always been to relive the first couple years of EverQuest by progressing through the patch history month by month. So launch, adjustments, add Fear, add Hate, add Sky, add Kunark, adjustments, add Epics, adjustments, add Velious, adjustments, and end.

And after completing the timeline, we go through the timeline again.

And we merge each server back into Blue, so you can always go play your characters whenever you want, in a living Norrath.

This is the goal of the Project. It's frustrating people don't understand that, or are in denial about it.

Agree with everything you said here.

That said, it's difficult to deny that RogBog seem to be checked out for the most part. Little to no engagement with the community and the initially mentioned merger timeframe is soon approaching.

What I think is likely, is that the above sentiment is what their original plan for the server was, and for whatever reason, they seem less invested in making further iterations a reality.

They had a plan to do a progression release, and they did the thing. Maybe doing the thing again and again is sounding less attractive? Idk.

I hope they do go through with the merge though. These days, most of my playtime is duoing with my brother, and having access to my blue characters will open up a lot more duo options for us.

cd288
11-05-2022, 12:25 PM
I don’t blame them for not being engaged. Read these forums and the discord: their project has become infected with terrible people…it’s a cesspool. If I were them I wouldn’t want to engage with everyone either

SantagarBrax
11-05-2022, 12:25 PM
Servers need to merge for sure, both servers are lacking the correct population and a merger would compliment each other nicely.

magnetaress
11-05-2022, 12:28 PM
I don’t blame them for not being engaged. Read these forums and the discord: their project has become infected with terrible people…it’s a cesspool. If I were them I wouldn’t want to engage with everyone either

LOL

dude

it's the winy babes on blue/green that ruined this project haha

seriously anyone thinking about making servers or running these projects don't cater to the pixel lords lawl

SantagarBrax
11-05-2022, 12:28 PM
I don’t blame them for not being engaged. Read these forums and the discord: their project has become infected with terrible people…it’s a cesspool. If I were them I wouldn’t want to engage with everyone either

Besides the same 5 people in RNF, this is a gross exaggeration and mischaracterization.

Reminder, most healthy people don't visit RNF.

Chortles Snortles
11-05-2022, 12:42 PM
hurty words are
LE BAD!!!!
(lol)

cd288
11-07-2022, 12:26 AM
Besides the same 5 people in RNF, this is a gross exaggeration and mischaracterization.

Reminder, most healthy people don't visit RNF.

Go scroll through discord. Imagine what the staff petition queue looks like…shit man back in the day when I was CSR I was like are you kidding me about the people I had to deal with, and I was getting paid lol

Mblake1981
11-07-2022, 06:02 PM
hurty words are
LE BAD!!!!
(lol)

https://i.imgur.com/Bix7FVH.jpg

Chortles Snortles
11-07-2022, 06:26 PM
i really want to understand this meme

San'Drax
11-07-2022, 08:00 PM
I don’t blame them for not being engaged. Read these forums and the discord: their project has become infected with terrible people…it’s a cesspool. If I were them I wouldn’t want to engage with everyone either

So fuckin turf the trash. Pretty easy to identify the garbos

Zwieback
11-08-2022, 07:36 AM
Safe the planet and merge!

cd288
11-08-2022, 02:28 PM
So fuckin turf the trash. Pretty easy to identify the garbos

Yes but the problem is they just come back under different names and different IP addresses. You can keep banning them when they act out, but they have nothing else to do so they just keep coming back. Look at Patrece for example, dude has been here for 10+ years in various forms

Basanos
11-08-2022, 05:03 PM
i really want to understand this memeno, see, when you hide what you mean behind layers of feigned sarcasm it makes you seem wise

i, like a dog, take everything at face value

Vormotus
11-08-2022, 09:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Bix7FVH.jpg

I too want to understand this meme hmmm ...

Remeygi
11-09-2022, 01:42 AM
Merge will happen…

… right after Apple and Microsoft merge to Micro-Apple.

long.liam
11-13-2022, 11:01 PM
I don't give a donkey dick shit whether the servers merge or not. I only play here because I don't want to pay for EQ TLP subscription and Free EQ has too many zones, so Here I am. If TLP was free though I would not be on this server.

long.liam
11-13-2022, 11:03 PM
I don't give a donkey dick shit whether the servers merge or not. I only play here because I don't want to pay for EQ TLP subscription and Free EQ has too many zones, so Here I am. If TLP was free though I would not be on this server.

Also, fuck the red server. There will never be Red 2.0! Give over it you big whiner babies. Rogean should just close down that garbage server. No one cares about Red.

Fammaden
11-14-2022, 09:54 AM
The wailing and gnashing of teeth when they announce the merger will be hilarious. And then forgotten immediately upon opening of GreenNext.

Ripqozko
11-14-2022, 02:04 PM
The wailing and gnashing of teeth when they announce the merger doesn't happen will be hilarious. And then forgotten immediately upon opening of GreenNext.

Ftfy

Ghost of Starman
11-14-2022, 03:52 PM
Your P99 gods have abandoned you, they don't care anymore, can't even bother to fix a broken druid spell for like a year. Good luck!

Grapeape
11-14-2022, 05:05 PM
Your P99 gods have abandoned you, they don't care anymore, can't even bother to fix a broken druid spell for like a year. Good luck!

Fammaden
11-14-2022, 05:43 PM
Hating druids is classic. Hope that helps.

Tunabros
11-14-2022, 06:41 PM
cant wait to farm the same content again but on a different server

Ratchet51
11-14-2022, 06:53 PM
cant wait to farm the same content again but on a different server

Too bad, you're not invited.

Chortles Snortles
11-14-2022, 07:02 PM
future app denied
(lol)

cd288
11-20-2022, 10:09 PM
Well at least we know the latest patch notes proved that there will eventually be a green 2.0 and server merge

Duik
11-21-2022, 08:54 AM
Hating druids is classic. Hope that helps.

Druid.
Recall snare root no mix. Snared mobs chasing you mob takes 66% dam. Root over writes snare then angry giant wanna smash lil woodelf.
Side note, dumbarse here didnt fear animal. Roleplayed animal love druid. Dumbarse.
Necro
Dot snare + fear 100% dam

Even tried to heal Felwith guards at ZL All the while RPing with inky necro saying Filthy scum! etc.
From memory, it worked for a bit, but was patched out I believe. Happy to be corrected though.

magnetaress
11-21-2022, 02:41 PM
cant wait to farm the same content again but on a different server

Daddy why r we going to NtoV again?

matticas
11-21-2022, 04:40 PM
https://imgur.com/lzVYe28.jpg

Valakut
11-28-2022, 09:41 AM
i have alt accounts in every guild discord. and i've heard some whispers that a very prominent raid leader is being forced to go to rehab or get kicked out of their moms house.

big if true but i think the raid scene could be affected by this in the very near future.

mattydef
11-28-2022, 04:21 PM
Servers will hopefully merge spring 2023 to get a healthy pre green server population. Teal will be launched either the end of the year or early 2024.

Encroaching Death
11-28-2022, 04:59 PM
What if instead of merging the servers....

...we add Shadows of Luclin.

https://media.tenor.com/2WdvhGWw9jcAAAAd/bushes-throw-shoe.gif

Tongpow
11-28-2022, 05:33 PM
What if instead of merging the servers....

...we add Shadows of Luclin.

https://media.tenor.com/2WdvhGWw9jcAAAAd/bushes-throw-shoe.gif

as long as we wishing for shit i'll take a char xfer to a server with planes of power

bigfun
11-29-2022, 02:39 PM
Merge all servers to red.