Druid Charm mid-late 30s.

[zelld52]

Hey priest crew. Looking for a (hopefully classic) zone where I can charm mobs from 36-39+

Gators in CT has been my go-to, but occasionally the camp is taken. Looking for a backup.

Is kedge possible at 36? Or am I too low?

Trying to stay in classic, so I can (ab)use my manastone.

Tx

[Twil]

I liked Iceclad around that range, there are usually enough dire wolfs to charm and hardly anyone ever around. I never had to stray far from the port, which made it super convenient. I have never used a mana stone before though, so I don't know the restrictions there.

Gators in CT were great for me, but I'm on Blue so probably less traffic through there. It was almost never camped. If CT was camped I would go to the Ancient Croc and do those gators. Got good xp and some gatorscale leggings.

[Twil]

The Ancient Croc was camped more often than CT though.

[Toxigen]

Overthere could be a good alternative. Big level range there gotta find the right spot.

You just can't beat the CT's ZEM.

[zelld52]

Overthere could be a good alternative. Big level range there gotta find the right spot.

You just can't beat the CT's ZEM.

yep, I;m gonna be sad when the camp greens out. I might bind in OT and this way make a lil money from porting.

I liked Iceclad around that range, there are usually enough dire wolfs to charm and hardly anyone ever around. I never had to stray far from the port, which made it super convenient. I have never used a mana stone before though, so I don't know the restrictions there.

Gators in CT were great for me, but I'm on Blue so probably less traffic through there. It was almost never camped. If CT was camped I would go to the Ancient Croc and do those gators. Got good xp and some gatorscale leggings.

manastone only works in classic zones, so no Velious or Kunark -- BUT i can port back to commons or something and manastone up and then gate back to iceclad

[Toxigen]

yep, I;m gonna be sad when the camp greens out. I might bind in OT and this way make a lil money from porting.



solid idea, can also snag C2s and POTGs at HH

Just track for blue animals, charm em, kill sarnaks with em :)

[Stroboo]

I liked OT ramp around those levels i think, can grab a partner and a rhino and have at it if you prefer. With a good monk/warrior exp flies, sooo many mobs and with you pulling/rooting and your partner just going from mob to mob time flies.

[loramin]

Is kedge possible at 36? Or am I too low?

Kedge probably is too high for you. The Per-Level Guide has the entrance starting at level 40, and while you might be able to do it a level or two early, doing it at 36 is almost certainly going to get you killed.

However, the guide also mentions Iceclad and Emerald Jungle as options (neither is manastone-friendly though), or there's also griffons in North Karana (which obviously is good for the stone).

[Chortles Snortles]

i would check the wiki
(lol)

[Tethler]

After CT gators I can't think of anything in old world until Kedge for charming. I think around 35 I transitioned to quadding the pirates in FV, then random trash dreadlands after that. I didn't pick up charming again until 53ish in the permafrost bear pits.

[ithaqua]

The snakes in paw maybe? Haven’t tried charming them but about the same level as the higher gators

[Toxigen]

The snakes in paw maybe? Haven’t tried charming them but about the same level as the higher gators

have heard of druids doing this to get a couple/few more levels after CT gators green out

no firsthand experience tho

[Toxigen]

After CT gators I can't think of anything in old world until Kedge for charming. I think around 35 I transitioned to quadding the pirates in FV, then random trash dreadlands after that. I didn't pick up charming again until 53ish in the permafrost bear pits.

Overthere --> EJ --> SolB bats --> Chardok --> Bear Pits will get ya to 60 w/o having to quad and not have to go to kedge (underwater kinda blows unless you've got EB item and really know what you're doing)

EJ was surprisingly good...I hung out mainly near the TT zone line and if it went tits up just run over and reset

once you're 42 ish can always leave LFG on or hit up necros / enc that want to duo in CoM (druid is a highly underrated duo partner there w/ those classes) to take a break from charm solo

[zelld52]

Overthere --> EJ --> SolB bats --> Chardok --> Bear Pits will get ya to 60 w/o having to quad and not have to go to kedge (underwater kinda blows unless you've got EB item and really know what you're doing)

EJ was surprisingly good...I hung out mainly near the TT zone line and if it went tits up just run over and reset

once you're 42 ish can always leave LFG on or hit up necros / enc that want to duo in CoM (druid is a highly underrated duo partner there w/ those classes) to take a break from charm solo

I suppose I could try EJ. Overthere hasn’t been worth the effort, quite frankly. Can kill 4 mobs with charm before in oom bc of resists etc, and only getting 1% per kill. So actually slower than just killing green in CT. Bummer

On necro this is when charm really opened up in kaesora. I am spoiled by necro

[ithaqua]

Can’t you charm the spiders in kaesora (and nurga)? No idea if they’re considered animals but sure looks the part at least )

[PatChapp]

Spiders aren't animals unfortunately

[Ganois]

You may need a couple of levels. You can handle the lancer swordfish at the entrance but the piercer ones and named one would give you trouble if it spawns. After, a couple levels you should definitely check it out though because it was the BEST xp I found at around those levels and you can stay there for a long time.

[Tethler]

Overthere --> EJ --> SolB bats --> Chardok --> Bear Pits will get ya to 60 w/o having to quad and not have to go to kedge (underwater kinda blows unless you've got EB item and really know what you're doing)

EJ was surprisingly good...I hung out mainly near the TT zone line and if it went tits up just run over and reset

once you're 42 ish can always leave LFG on or hit up necros / enc that want to duo in CoM (druid is a highly underrated duo partner there w/ those classes) to take a break from charm solo

Yeah, forgot about the solb bats. I leveled my druid like 5 years ago when the outdoor ZEM wasn't good. Nice that EJ is an option now. I really like that more outdoor spots are viable.

[zelld52]

You may need a couple of levels. You can handle the lancer swordfish at the entrance but the piercer ones and named one would give you trouble if it spawns. After, a couple levels you should definitely check it out though because it was the BEST xp I found at around those levels and you can stay there for a long time.


What level would you recommend for getting started in Kedge? at 40 atm, still dealing with bad resists on mobs in OT / EJ. At least in Kedge I can manastone.

I'm pretty eager to try Kedge, as I've never done it before and druid seems like one of the two perfect toons for it

[Toxigen]

What level would you recommend for getting started in Kedge? at 40 atm, still dealing with bad resists on mobs in OT / EJ. At least in Kedge I can manastone.

I'm pretty eager to try Kedge, as I've never done it before and druid seems like one of the two perfect toons for it

EJ isn't until mid/later 40s, same with Kedge.

Could charm Bloodmaw in GD I suppose.

[Ganois]

I think you can definitely do the entrance at lvl 40. Make sure to lull all those mobs they can be difficult to see and if you get a charm break just hang out by the zone line and you can just zone out. The xp was so good there.

[bcbrown]

Could charm Bloodmaw in GD I suppose.

When I tried that, I kept getting far too many adds to root them all, then inevitably dying or running for my life when charm broke. Is there any trick to it?

[Toxigen]

When I tried that, I kept getting far too many adds to root them all, then inevitably dying or running for my life when charm broke. Is there any trick to it?

harmony is a helluva drug

[bcbrown]

harmony is a helluva drug

I could single-pull no problem, but I'd keep getting a bunch adds halfway through the fight. Seemed like they were aggroing without LOS.

[zelld52]

Kedge sucks. Spent about an hour there this morning. Yeah, the pathing is wild, so mobs will path out of the way and then come back with a bunch of adds. Back to OT for me lol

[Ganois]

=(

[Toxigen]

Kedge sucks. Spent about an hour there this morning. Yeah, the pathing is wild, so mobs will path out of the way and then come back with a bunch of adds. Back to OT for me lol

Have you been tracking for animals in this yellow area?

https://i.imgur.com/cjua8Bk.jpg

I'd stick to that and gut it out. Move towards SF ramp as they go green. Keep snagging those POTGs when ya can.

You should be able to move to EJ afterward and stay there til 49/50, then solB bats or Chardok entrance become doable.

Everything gets worlds easier at 52. The quicker cast time of Call of Karana is like hitting the promised land.

Chardok ent is pretty sweet because you can get steady flow of C2s from factioned enchanters.

[zelld52]

Yeah ive been hanging out near SF ramp -- its actually been pretty CrackerJack.

Dump a mana bar charm killing several mobs, then gate back to Commons to manastone back up.

Its much better now that I get less resists at level 41.

[Toxigen]

Yeah ive been hanging out near SF ramp -- its actually been pretty CrackerJack.

Dump a mana bar charm killing several mobs, then gate back to Commons to manastone back up.

Its much better now that I get less resists at level 41.

Nice. Yeah thats how it goes with charm life. Every level makes a super noticeable difference.

Too bad you're not on blue!

[Crede]

Yeah ive been hanging out near SF ramp -- its actually been pretty CrackerJack.

Dump a mana bar charm killing several mobs, then gate back to Commons to manastone back up.

Its much better now that I get less resists at level 41.

If you’re dumping a mana bar “charm killing several mobs” then you’re doing something really wrong lol.

Should be able to go a long time medding/breaking at low and finishing with either root neck or something cheap.

[zelld52]

If you’re dumping a mana bar “charm killing several mobs” then you’re doing something really wrong lol.

Should be able to go a long time medding/breaking at low and finishing with either root neck or something cheap.

Well charm is 170 mana. So 10 casts of that is all of my mana bar. Plus snares, and re-casts on resists(snare, charm/ early breaks). and then 150 mana for a gate back to commons.

So I can get maybe 12-15 before i need to go mana up. As opposed to classic zones, where i can just manastone intermittently and let my regen heal me up

[zelld52]

also seems to be a pretty wide level range on stonegazer chickens, sabretooth tigers, and spiked succulents. sometimes a tiger will rip through one of them and have 80% hp at the end. other times its a close fight. doing a level in about 1-1.5 hours at llevel 41-43 so far.

its great, working well. just prefer the passive mana regen from MS clicks while fighting / letting fungi regen me up

[Crede]

Well charm is 170 mana. So 10 casts of that is all of my mana bar. Plus snares, and re-casts on resists(snare, charm/ early breaks). and then 150 mana for a gate back to commons.

So I can get maybe 12-15 before i need to go mana up. As opposed to classic zones, where i can just manastone intermittently and let my regen heal me up

snare is a waste of mana at your level. It's fine 50+ with epic or snare earring. just keep the enemy rooted, preferably with the root necklace(if you went tunare), and recharm your pet from afar(you have the gear to take hits if needed). if youre getting lots of charm resists/early breaks then youre charming too high level of mobs. And im guessing that is your primary issue. Also you should be charming equivalent level mobs. Just a lot of lost efficiency here. Manastone is cool but youre just using more APM than necessary my dude.

Good luck

[Toxigen]

also seems to be a pretty wide level range on stonegazer chickens, sabretooth tigers, and spiked succulents. sometimes a tiger will rip through one of them and have 80% hp at the end. other times its a close fight. doing a level in about 1-1.5 hours at llevel 41-43 so far.

its great, working well. just prefer the passive mana regen from MS clicks while fighting / letting fungi regen me up

Should invest in this at level 49:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Earring_of_Woven_Bark

I assume you have a velious wrist for drones click right?

Also, are you Tunare? The DS gloves are insanely strong for charm solo.

[zelld52]

At 45 it's much diffwrent. Got an assembly line kinda thing going. Charm a tiger, round up like 4-5 mobs, root em, DS tiger, send tiger in until mobs are low. (Tigers are highest level of almost any other and can usually get like 3-4 cactus, tigress, rhino or birds to 20% before it's at 20%). /Pet back at 20% and attack next mob.

Keep going down the line until tiger is like 10-20% and brrak charm. Drones on all the low mobs. Root clickie, drones clickie

If tiger is low before all mobs are dead I get a new tiger. It may not be terribly efficient, but I'm full mana afterwards and it reminds me of permafrost shaman epic root rotting

[Zuranthium]

Should invest in this at level 49:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Earring_of_Woven_Bark

This item isn't very good on a server where you can't med while casting. Snare costs a very tiny amount of mana and is a 2 second cast. Using a 4.5 second clicky means you are often going to miss out on med ticks in comparison, so you aren't saving mana in the end. It can free up a skill slot, but having a fast casting snare ready is something you're going to want a lot of the time.

[PabloEdvardo]

This item isn't very good on a server where you can't med while casting. Snare costs a very tiny amount of mana and is a 2 second cast. Using a 4.5 second clicky means you are often going to miss out on med ticks in comparison, so you aren't saving mana in the end. It can free up a skill slot, but having a fast casting snare ready is something you're going to want a lot of the time.

ticks are 6 seconds, there's plenty of time to cast between that if you're watching your mana ticks

[Toxigen]

This item isn't very good on a server where you can't med while casting. Snare costs a very tiny amount of mana and is a 2 second cast. Using a 4.5 second clicky means you are often going to miss out on med ticks in comparison, so you aren't saving mana in the end. It can free up a skill slot, but having a fast casting snare ready is something you're going to want a lot of the time.

Nobody is that try-hard. It saves you a spell slot. Bigly good.

Hope this helps.

[Zuranthium]

ticks are 6 seconds, there's plenty of time to cast between that if you're watching your mana ticks

That's not how it works when you're running around pulling. The time it takes to cast a bunch of 4.5 second spells, as opposed to 2 second casts, inherently means you have spent time that instead could have been used meditating. It also means you've simply wasted time in how long it takes to do a quad. It's especially time-wasting if you're pulling things that aggro together, because it means after the first snare lands, you're going to have to spend more time running to get full distance so that your 4.5 second snare lands before they get in bash range.

The same can be said for various other combat scenarios. Quick casting spells are good.

Nobody is that try-hard.

There is nothing try hard about meditating or having a fast casting snare.

You need better understanding of game mechanics or the concept of time expenditure.

[zelld52]

I did overthere basically 100% from 39-49. It's great 45-48, because lots of blues still. Sabertooth tigers are also OP, so with drones xlicky I was able to kill 4-6 mobs off of one charm cast.

At 48 I did walruses in EW with great success.

Went to bats at 49 and it's been gangbusters (52 now)

[Jimjam]

Whats a gangbuster?

[zelld52]

It's slang, reference to a 1930s American radio show called Gang Busters that started each episode off with excitement and action.

So it refers to something going well at first and being exciting from the start.

[Chortles Snortles]

do these mobs flee?!
(lol)