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Mockba1980
11-19-2022, 08:57 AM
Hello,

I don't know if I am alone to experience this "bug" but since the last patch, I don't receive anymore message like : Root/slow/etc worn off etc.

anyone experiencing this bug ?

zelld52
11-19-2022, 09:18 AM
yes, i posted in bug forums about it.

MS? Yes plz
11-19-2022, 09:37 AM
Yes, same here

Encroaching Death
11-19-2022, 02:00 PM
Devs know about it.

It was unintentional and I imagine they're working to fix it now.

cd288
11-19-2022, 06:01 PM
Guess I’ll need to use Gina for once

Ananka
11-20-2022, 01:32 AM
I was prepared to accept it as intentional but if it was unintentional then thank goodness because how do you play the big dotting classes later on without that message.

seaneriver
11-21-2022, 07:43 AM
yep same issue cant see spells wear off

Kavious
11-21-2022, 10:14 AM
Dev response in the bug report for it. Will be fixed eventually

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=410926

cd288
11-21-2022, 10:38 AM
Hopefully it’s asap because that’s a pretty game breaking issue

Encroaching Death
11-21-2022, 10:48 AM
Hopefully it’s asap because that’s a pretty game breaking issue

No it's not. Stop being such a baby.

Xiderpunk2
11-21-2022, 11:18 AM
People are complaining about it for good reason, it might not be 'game breaking' but it certainly has made playing P99 odious. Hopefully we will get a hotfix for this. If we are talking weeks, I think server population will quite quickly start to decline.

WokeCat
11-22-2022, 02:27 AM
People are complaining about it for good reason, it might not be 'game breaking' but it certainly has made playing P99 odious. Hopefully we will get a hotfix for this. If we are talking weeks, I think server population will quite quickly start to decline.

It's pretty rough as a Troll Shaman, LOL. I use the snare necklace, root and a bunch of DoTs etc. and not being able to tell when they wear off is dangerous since I stay at low HP at all times because of cannibalize :P

like in the past mobs would look like they running towards you when they were actually still rooted, and I learned to play around it. Now I can't tell LOL.

Encroaching Death
11-22-2022, 11:43 AM
It's pretty rough as a Troll Shaman, LOL. I use the snare necklace, root and a bunch of DoTs etc. and not being able to tell when they wear off is dangerous since I stay at low HP at all times because of cannibalize :P

like in the past mobs would look like they running towards you when they were actually still rooted, and I learned to play around it. Now I can't tell LOL.

It sounds bad on paper, but when playing, you get used to it fairly quickly.

You'll get a feeling for which dots to use and the mob's health when those dots stop ticking.

It's very similar to how people got used to not seeing the damage ticks on dots. You adapt a lot faster than you'd think.

Andyman1022
11-22-2022, 11:50 AM
If you quit p99 over this, you deserve to take a break.

PatChapp
11-22-2022, 02:36 PM
I was prepared to accept it as intentional but if it was unintentional then thank goodness because how do you play the big dotting classes later on without that message.

Dots are easy,make a Gina trigger that fires as you cast.
Root/mez are the challenge. Has been annoying on my enchanter but not terrible

funry
11-22-2022, 08:58 PM
Bigger question is why they were removing the charm wear off message? I don't understand focusing on trivial stuff like this when this is clearly a custom server. Why make quality of life worse when you have limited point black AE to 25, inflated recharge rate, broken monk FD, buffed raid content, rooted dragons, linear movement on spell interrupt, Ivandyr's Hoop, etc...

Bring back buff timers, unrestricted AE, regular vendor prices, and throw in a raid window, please, while you're at it.

Encroaching Death
11-22-2022, 10:22 PM
Bigger question is why they were removing the charm wear off message? I don't understand focusing on trivial stuff like this when this is clearly a custom server. Why make quality of life worse when you have limited point black AE to 25, inflated recharge rate, broken monk FD, buffed raid content, rooted dragons, linear movement on spell interrupt, Ivandyr's Hoop, etc...

Bring back buff timers, unrestricted AE, regular vendor prices, and throw in a raid window, please, while you're at it.

They weren't trying to remove the charm wear off message. They had those patch notes in there to remind themselves and others when the charm wear off message to be added in the timeline, when they spin up another classic server in the future.

It caused a lot of confusion though. And the prep work for that future change may have caused the current bug.

rhold
11-23-2022, 12:11 AM
Hopefully it’s asap because that’s a pretty game breaking issue

HAHAHAHA

PabloEdvardo
11-23-2022, 02:32 AM
it took them literally a year to ship the last patch

strap in, i wouldn't expect a fix for this for a while

iplayeq
11-23-2022, 08:29 AM
Be patient. It's a free game and they devs are not paid for it. If it's game breaking for you then play another game while they work on the fix.

goblinmob
11-23-2022, 12:43 PM
Sorry you are forced to look at EverQuest now and not just chat box. The game telegraphs what's going on in multiple ways. Be proactive. By level 20 on nearly any class, EQ has essentially engrained an internal timer in the minds of anyone who's awake lol. Even my asshole knows how to take a shit in sync with my Chase the Moon lol

PatChapp
11-23-2022, 01:37 PM
The timed ones aren't the issue, those are easy. It's the root and mez messages, complicates things if your multitasking or doing hard content.
Don't get me wrong it's not the end of the world but it certainly complicates things

Encroaching Death
11-23-2022, 02:43 PM
My root timer is fairly primitive. The mob actually lets me know when it drops.

Not my audio cue or anything. It notifies me by trying to end my life.

PatChapp
11-23-2022, 03:01 PM
I take it you don't play an enchanter, we keep mobs root in the hope that on a charm break we only have one interrupting our spells.
Sometimes a 3min root breaks after one or two ticks and now we have no idea. It isn't terrible but certainly increases the death rate

Encroaching Death
11-23-2022, 03:12 PM
I take it you don't play an enchanter, we keep mobs root in the hope that on a charm break we only have one interrupting our spells.
Sometimes a 3min root breaks after one or two ticks and now we have no idea. It isn't terrible but certainly increases the death rate

I play a Necro deep in HS, reverse charming a pack of 4 at a time.

Granted, it's not easier than a week ago when I had the messages, but when you do it hours on end (like we all do) a rhythm develops.

It's like waking up 30 seconds before your alarm clock goes off.

goblinmob
11-23-2022, 03:52 PM
Now have enchanters are been nerf'd!

WokeCat
11-23-2022, 09:08 PM
It sounds bad on paper, but when playing, you get used to it fairly quickly.

You'll get a feeling for which dots to use and the mob's health when those dots stop ticking.

It's very similar to how people got used to not seeing the damage ticks on dots. You adapt a lot faster than you'd think.
At max level this is actually true, I feel like a psychic because I can tell when a spell is going to wear off and begin casting it and land it right as the worn off message hits. But I'm leveling this character, and just got two new DoTs, so it's hard to tell. Root has always been random etc.

Not really the end of the world, but compare this to my Cleric (who I main). It doesn't affect my Cleric at all because I'm mostly just sitting down and watching health bars, and buffing every hour or two or as needed.

Feel like I should prob just try to find a group to heal in the meantime because it's a little stressful when a root break or snare wearing off = me dead, lol.

Edit: Also this game has been doing this to me for years, where it'll look like the mob is running towards you, but they are actually still rooted. In the past I knew it was safe to just sit there until I got the message that root had worn off. If I do that now, there's a 50% chance that I'll get one shotted, so yeah. Simply watching the character you are root rotting to see when they start charging towards you has never really been viable, I learned that very early on with P99.

zelld52
11-29-2022, 11:13 AM
It kind of sucks when charming, because you have to keep re-rooting to make sure the target is rooted for when you break charm.

Would hate playing enchanter like this. Druid and Nec arent as bad because of survivability spells

cd288
11-29-2022, 11:22 AM
It kind of sucks when charming, because you have to keep re-rooting to make sure the target is rooted for when you break charm.

Would hate playing enchanter like this. Druid and Nec arent as bad because of survivability spells

Yeah root breaks are pretty annoying as a result. Charm breaks aren't bad if soloing because they are obvious, but pretty annoying when doing group or raid content.

GINA helps

zelld52
11-29-2022, 12:39 PM
Yeah root breaks are pretty annoying as a result. Charm breaks aren't bad if soloing because they are obvious, but pretty annoying when doing group or raid content.

GINA helps

Aye, doesnt help with early breaks though.

But all the people acting like "well just get good, now you arent looking at chat boxes"

Worn off messages have been around since 1999 lol.

iplayeq
11-29-2022, 04:14 PM
I take it you don't play an enchanter, we keep mobs root in the hope that on a charm break we only have one interrupting our spells.
Sometimes a 3min root breaks after one or two ticks and now we have no idea. It isn't terrible but certainly increases the death rate

I have an enchanter and I went from lv 50 - 55 since the patch and it hasn't been a big deal. I died once but that was because work called me. Just pay attention and root often.

Snaggles
11-29-2022, 08:05 PM
It's most annoying with dots, but you can count the seconds or simply cycle them. Sham epic = about 2 banes. Roots, charms, and other stuff like that I don't get the complaint. Give yourself distance and pay attention.

Cars have all sorts of gauges and warning lights on the dash but if you dont spend most your time looking out the windshield you will end up in a tree.

PatChapp
11-30-2022, 09:19 AM
Dots are the least annoying, just use Gina triggers

cd288
12-02-2022, 04:55 PM
It's most annoying with dots, but you can count the seconds or simply cycle them. Sham epic = about 2 banes. Roots, charms, and other stuff like that I don't get the complaint. Give yourself distance and pay attention.

Cars have all sorts of gauges and warning lights on the dash but if you dont spend most your time looking out the windshield you will end up in a tree.

Well with Charm it's not an issue because it's visually obvious when charm wears off. It's the root that's the annoying one. because your root can break without you knowing, and then Charm breaks and you have two mobs running at you instead of one.

This is survivable of course via a combo of rune and stun spells (unless you're fighting mobs that are immune to stun), but it can definitely cause you to die lol. Especially considering that at high levels many of the places you would be charming you don't have the ability to "give yourself space" as you say one should.

Really overall for any class except Enchanter this isn't really that big of an issue. It's enchanter charm soloing where it can present a potential problem.

Thundarr
12-08-2022, 01:00 PM
I'm a little relieved that this a bug. I thought I had inadvertently hit some kind of shortcut to turn off notifications and have been trying to fix it for a week. Regardless of how much or how little it affects each person's play or style, this is an issue that hopefully is being worked on.

bwisenhart
12-08-2022, 04:01 PM
Not knowing when root breaks while charm killing is a pretty big problem. Honestly, don't really understand why that change in the patch can't just be reverted. Not to be a Debbie downer but last oops I ran into like this was the dot immolate that didn't work at all due to a patch. That one took over a year to fix and gutted the mid leveling of all druids removing root rot as a viable kill strategy. Can we please just revert patch part pls. Thanks for the hard work.

Ranarius
12-16-2022, 03:44 AM
Oh, I see this is an issue for everyone lol. I was all excited that the druid immolate spell got fixed so I logged back in to play after 6 or so months off to find that my spell wear off messages were broken. Just spent 2 hours trying to fix it, hahaha. My bad.

Seliant
12-21-2022, 09:53 PM
they piss off the DN swarm in 3 days but this bug is taking too long to fix, will it be fixd?