Soul defiler vs 2h

[nordbear]

Hey! Anyone knows how good a soul defiler would hold up against the ToV/Tunare 2Hs when it comes to dps? Tunare and vulak ones have a little better ratio but not sure how much the higher dmg bonus (due to faster swings) the soul defiler has would impact it. Apart from tunare/vulak the other options have very similar ratio and given that some of them are piercing with a lower skill they might even be worse?

[Ripqozko]

Hey! Anyone knows how good a soul defiler would hold up against the ToV/Tunare 2Hs when it comes to dps? Tunare and vulak ones have a little better ratio but not sure how much the higher dmg bonus (due to faster swings) the soul defiler has would impact it. Apart from tunare/vulak the other options have very similar ratio and given that some of them are piercing with a lower skill they might even be worse?

Soul defiler is amazing, but 2h is superior in everything non heavy tanking or high ac. On my pally I have vyemm hammer and I rarely use it cause even primal parses better let alone my gozz shovel.

[Toxigen]

Yeah, unfortunately it just doesn’t come close to 2 hand.

[nordbear]

Good to know, thx a lot of the responses!

[Keebz]

I randomly used it the other day over Palladius on AoW. I suspect it might be better for high AC raid mobs that don't AoE, but I'm virtually always on a monk/rogue/cleric for those. It's basically just for the proc, and people don't like you running around as a skeleton on raids, so therefore soloing.

[Ripqozko]

I randomly used it the other day over Palladius on AoW. I suspect it might be better for high AC raid mobs that don't AoE, but I'm virtually always on a monk/rogue/cleric for those. It's basically just for the proc, and people don't like you running around as a skeleton on raids, so therefore soloing.

Yea high ac and tanking 1h will win, otherwise 2h is superior always.

[PabloEdvardo]

soul defiler is all about the proc

[Renault]

A related question, following the knights 2h table buff and the crazy itemization of TOV/Tunare 2hers: How much more damage to rangers really do than knights at this point?

[Ripqozko]

A related question, following the knights 2h table buff and the crazy itemization of TOV/Tunare 2hers: How much more damage to rangers really do than knights at this point?

Not much, still do bit more tho with my cek 2h on ranger vs gozz shovel on pal but rangers still can disc with bfg to do rogue type dmg.

[nordbear]

Follow up question: Do you think a Narandi's lance would out-dps the soul defiler? I'm currently lvl 58 and mostly fear kiting. Only have a reaver and sky sword for 2h atm and the reaver doesn't work where I'm fighting.

[Snaggles]

Follow up question: Do you think a Narandi's lance would out-dps the soul defiler? I'm currently lvl 58 and mostly fear kiting. Only have a reaver and sky sword for 2h atm and the reaver doesn't work where I'm fighting.

Not counting the Narandi proc, with the lvl 60 damage bonus:
Soul Defiler: 2.789
Narandi: 2.80

It’s probably negligible unless the fear kite npc is taking a while (if missing some swings) in which case the dot just gets better and better. But in this instance you are comparing the best ratio 1h in the game with a good but fairly pedestrian 2h. A Lance of Thunder in that same situation with the 60 dmg bonus would be 3.13 or 11% better.

That’s just napkin math. Parses can vary.

[nordbear]

Ah right. What is the dmg bonus for 2h anyway? Can’t seem to find any proper info on that.

[Ripqozko]

Follow up question: Do you think a Narandi's lance would out-dps the soul defiler? I'm currently lvl 58 and mostly fear kiting. Only have a reaver and sky sword for 2h atm and the reaver doesn't work where I'm fighting.

itd be close, narandi's is kinda weaker tho, how do ya not have a good 2h but have a soul defiler.

[nordbear]

itd be close, narandi's is kinda weaker tho, how do ya not have a good 2h but have a soul defiler.

I know you troll a lot so not sure if you expect a answer to this somewhat stupid question. But I’m a casual raider in a casual guild and got lucky on a draft week basically.

[Ripqozko]

I know you troll a lot so not sure if you expect a answer to this somewhat stupid question. But I’m a casual raider in a casual guild and got lucky on a draft week basically.

Imagine calling it a stupid question after answering your stupid questions

[Snaggles]

Ah right. What is the dmg bonus for 2h anyway? Can’t seem to find any proper info on that.

https://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1

If it was me id probably just solo up with the Soul Defiler. If you are a casual raider it's very good and will make a lot of people jealous, which is kind of the point of P99 anyways.

[nordbear]

https://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1

If it was me id probably just solo up with the Soul Defiler. If you are a casual raider it's very good and will make a lot of people jealous, which is kind of the point of P99 anyways.

Thx!