Let's be honest - You think you do, but you don't - Red 2.0 classic

[Ezpk]

Do you really think it would be a good idea to summon the sweatiest nerds imaginable to come and plague Norrath?

Right now you have it GOOD!

Low contest mobs, ability to form groups capable of clearing content, practice/learn/experience velious for what it is

If they wiped red for 2.0, you will no longer be playing the same game

You will be faced with competition so thick you may very well miss out on legacy items for your main toon

There will be people that level every single class to endgame just to ensure having full self buffs

Groups will farm Lizard blood pots, Ivandyr hoops, Leatherfoot skullcaps & Soulfires by the bag and bankload just to have the upper hand at every occasion

You want your name plastered on the internet for all eternity in the next shoddy youtube compilation paired with 2020s mainstream rap & pop?

Are you able, willing or even capable of going for 12, 24, 48+ hours just to secure a pixel for your pal on an emulated server of a game from the 90s?

Everquest pvp is not made for the faint of heart, some here may very well already be experiencing blood pressure problems...

Do you really want to reinstate the ptsd of selos Ezpk running at you in every zone with a gatorsmash maul?

[Chortles Snortles]

remember that time you tried to steal a t staff
(lol)

[Ezpk]

https://i.postimg.cc/LXtNybRD/tstaff.pngremember that time you tried to steal a t staff
(lol)

cleanest whistle on the box since vztz, too legit to quit, etc

you think I need to steal to get ahead? kek

[Chortles Snortles]

yeah i helped you xfer it before learning it was stolen goods
(lol)

[Ezpk]

yeah i helped you xfer it before learning it was stolen goods
(lol)

I drop xfer in neriak, denied

[magnetaress]

dude i want casey and smedy and sektor and heartbrand and nizzar 2.0 those guys where gr8

[Encroaching Death]

I drop xfer in neriak, denied

I know ur secret spot heh

[Gustoo]

Lol there’s 30 people on red 1 at peak.

Every other of the 600 peak red players or whatever it peaked out at would rather play 2.0 even for just 12 months.

All the pretend and actual legends are welcome to come back.

[Lord Casey]

dude i want casey and smedy and sektor and heartbrand and nizzar 2.0 those guys where gr8

7 years after quitting they still talk of this absolute LEGEND :cool:

[Imago]

dude i want casey and smedy and sektor and heartbrand and nizzar 2.0 those guys where gr8

One of these is not like the others

[Gustoo]

There are 2 pairs in that list, and 1 duke.

They are similar in that they are notable not that they are cool.

[magnetaress]

There are better ppl to be remembered by than me on r99 lol

[surron]

i was pk'ing velious raid geared chubs with a druid wearing a scarab bp, red2.0 would be dead on arrival

"here comes that badass halfling in a green bp" - red2.0 noobs

[Krazy/sickpuppy]

Red 2.0 will be a huge cesspool but with that being said I will be there 14-17 hours a day .

[Gustoo]

It will be back to the old days of 20 or so psychos on the forums making the whole server look nuts.

But without non classic ooc spam and yellow text and other shit box features it will play like a beautiful classic emu that you can’t AFK camp at.

[magnetaress]

key words will be

[Stasis01]

Who's playing the new EQ live expansion I have a 120 paladin ready on Firiona Vie(roleplaying server) ready to go

[Gustoo]

It would take me 40hr play time to learn all the damn cooldowns on a level 120 in weirdo new quest

[Encroaching Death]

What do people do on Red?

Solo crawl Lower Guk for 15 hours before they catch a glimpse of another player and then go back to playing with themselves (in more ways than one)?

[Gustoo]

Are you for reals? There is like one or two players playing the game at any time and 28 or so people pharming dragons.

[Encroaching Death]

Do any of you guys play on the DAoC emu servers?

[Gustoo]

I never made the leap to DAoC, Shadowbane, or Asheron's Call. I was going to get Asheron's Call 2 but the guy at the store was like "bro, just get AC 1, trust me" and I told him I'd just keep playing EQ if that's the case, and thats what I did.

It does seem like if EQ guys here are tired of 1999-2001 progression they should go try DAoC though. Seems true to the real MMO form, pre WOW ruining MMO's forever.

[Jimjam]

Hanging out with my bat friend grilling green con bnb @58.

[Encroaching Death]

I never made the leap to DAoC, Shadowbane, or Asheron's Call. I was going to get Asheron's Call 2 but the guy at the store was like "bro, just get AC 1, trust me" and I told him I'd just keep playing EQ if that's the case, and thats what I did.

It does seem like if EQ guys here are tired of 1999-2001 progression they should go try DAoC though. Seems true to the real MMO form, pre WOW ruining MMO's forever.

He was right, AC1 was better.

DAoC is great if you like PvP, but probably a wildly different vibe from Red.

[Tradesonred]

DAOC server launching dec 10th

https://eden-daoc.net/home

[Chortles Snortles]

https://i.imgur.com/GefkiLW.gif

[Gustoo]

He was right, AC1 was better.

DAoC is great if you like PvP, but probably a wildly different vibe from Red.

I believed he was right but I wasn’t about to jump into AC1 I thought I’d give a new game a try but he convinced me so I stuck with eq

[Old_PVP]

Do any of you guys play on the DAoC emu servers?

I played on Uthgard several years back before they wiped it. DAOC was a fun game.

[klant]

Do you really think it would be a good idea to summon the sweatiest nerds imaginable to come and plague Norrath?

Right now you have it GOOD!

Low contest mobs, ability to form groups capable of clearing content, practice/learn/experience velious for what it is

If they wiped red for 2.0, you will no longer be playing the same game

You will be faced with competition so thick you may very well miss out on legacy items for your main toon

There will be people that level every single class to endgame just to ensure having full self buffs

Groups will farm Lizard blood pots, Ivandyr hoops, Leatherfoot skullcaps & Soulfires by the bag and bankload just to have the upper hand at every occasion

You want your name plastered on the internet for all eternity in the next shoddy youtube compilation paired with 2020s mainstream rap & pop?

Are you able, willing or even capable of going for 12, 24, 48+ hours just to secure a pixel for your pal on an emulated server of a game from the 90s?

Everquest pvp is not made for the faint of heart, some here may very well already be experiencing blood pressure problems...

Do you really want to reinstate the ptsd of selos Ezpk running at you in every zone with a gatorsmash maul?

Lol. Ezpk was great until he split to join the zerg. I think all those late night Howling Stones camps with Lite and Brennard broke him lol. Would run with you again if it restarted tho! Will just have to f with you more incase you abandon me again.

[Gustoo]

hmm everquest.

[Rick Sanchez]

DAOC server launching dec 10th

https://eden-daoc.net/home

My buddies and I are playing there, what realm you going ? If you're playing midgard and want a group to roll with lmk.

[Encroaching Death]

My buddies and I are playing there, what realm you going ? If you're playing midgard and want a group to roll with lmk.

I wanna play, but man, DAOC pisses me off sometimes with its 'class counter' type of setup.

No matter what class you play, there is an enemy class that will absolutely wreck you no matter what you do.

I get it, I understand, and DAOC isn't the only game like that - but my caveman brain can't handle it. I can't accept it.

AoE dotting 100 people attacking a castle door is some of the most fun you'll ever have though.

And the amount of RP you get from it...niceee

[Rick Sanchez]

yeah, but for the most part man, you're just explaining MMO pvp. Like anything in life you have to take the bad with the good. However, in you respec your class to play a different style so its not as frustrating as EQ pvp lets say imo. DAoC has some of the best pvp you can find in any MMO with the 3 faction system and funneling into certain convergence points etc there is something ALWAYS happening at all level ranges. It's free and my buddies and I can get some entertainment out of it for a while, I'll take it.

[Chortles Snortles]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎

[Encroaching Death]

yeah, but for the most part man, you're just explaining MMO pvp. Like anything in life you have to take the bad with the good. However, in you respec your class to play a different style so its not as frustrating as EQ pvp lets say imo. DAoC has some of the best pvp you can find in any MMO with the 3 faction system and funneling into certain convergence points etc there is something ALWAYS happening at all level ranges. It's free and my buddies and I can get some entertainment out of it for a while, I'll take it.

That being said, my Reaver was pretty awesome.

If I shield stunned someone, they were almost always dead. That back proc ability was nasty.

[Jibartik]

The problem with EQ pvp is that people have access to non pvp servers.

[Lord Casey]

Lol. Ezpk was great until he split to join the zerg. I think all those late night Howling Stones camps with Lite and Brennard broke him lol. Would run with you again if it restarted tho! Will just have to f with you more incase you abandon me again.

Meh, he was kind of a low attention span dumbass. Cannon fodder. I guess in a certain lens that is great. Along the same lines as Frenziedkilla. Does make you wonder how EverQuest can attract such a wide array of people. Unemployed wigger drug dealers from Florida like Ezpk for instance. Who knew

One of my only memorable interactions with that bloodthirsty idiot was him desperately trying to attack my level 55 chanter over and over after I mentioned to him that we're both in the same guild.

Was using an exploit in Cabilis to farm plat. I think it was only available for a few weeks so I was in a hurry to maximize profit hehe.
Fuck that nig I'm trying to scrooge mcduck over here.

[Old_PVP]

The problem with EQ pvp is that people have access to non pvp servers.

[klant]

Meh, he was kind of a low attention span dumbass. Cannon fodder. I guess in a certain lens that is great. Along the same lines as Frenziedkilla. Does make you wonder how EverQuest can attract such a wide array of people. Unemployed wigger drug dealers from Florida like Ezpk for instance. Who knew

One of my only memorable interactions with that bloodthirsty idiot was him desperately trying to attack my level 55 chanter over and over after I mentioned to him that we're both in the same guild.

Was using an exploit in Cabilis to farm plat. I think it was only available for a few weeks so I was in a hurry to maximize profit hehe.
Fuck that nig I'm trying to scrooge mcduck over here.

lol, ya maybe those howling stones trips just happened to line up with his drug issues. definitely went off the deep end once we got him that big axe. I remember EZ trying to be slick in the Hole and falling to his death a few times. Was never the same.
I remember the first time I met Casey in Everfrost on Chubs back in the day, having Iceberg polar bear-charming battles until we became pals (or truced it out).

[klant]

One of my fondest memories though... and I can't even fully remember it, but I know one of the old <Blood Money> guys has it recorded somewhere... Was that super noob shitty enchanter... can't remember his name.. Mountaindew or some shit (high elf), ended up being Nihilums main enchanter and they always gave him the best shit for some reason. Anyways, in the first few weeks of the server launching, we let Mountaindew run with us so we could abuse him for clarity. We made up a quest in Kaladim for him that he believed to be legit that involved him running around completing various tasks (eating muffins and milk in front of a certain NPC, etc, buy some stuff from merchants, hail some people) and ending it with him needing to put on a dark elf illusion deep in kaladim which got him xp killed. he couldn't find his corpse for a while. think one of those mean <Blood Money> boys even had him consent and he drug his corpse off somewhere. Not sure why Mountaindew abandoned us. He still playing on this server? was a nice dude but too needy since it was his first EQ experience.

Good memories. Need that new Red 2.0 server! i'll stop with the spam! peace bro's good to see ya! I know this wasn't the thread for it, but F it

[Imago]

Would rather roll on into Crushbone on a fresh box with a naked 8 wizard than play my BIS windstriker ranger, sow sword rogue or abashi monk.

Just sayin.

[Ezpk]

Meh, he was kind of a low attention span dumbass. Cannon fodder. I guess in a certain lens that is great. Along the same lines as Frenziedkilla. Does make you wonder how EverQuest can attract such a wide array of people. Unemployed wigger drug dealers from Florida like Ezpk for instance. Who knew

One of my only memorable interactions with that bloodthirsty idiot was him desperately trying to attack my level 55 chanter over and over after I mentioned to him that we're both in the same guild.

Was using an exploit in Cabilis to farm plat. I think it was only available for a few weeks so I was in a hurry to maximize profit hehe.
Fuck that nig I'm trying to scrooge mcduck over here.

woah, whole lot of anger and subtle racism from some randy whom I don't recall pvping with or against whatsoever. Unemployed or drug dealer? Which is it lol. Trying to attack? I go after whom I please and they die, reveal your enchanter no clue who doesn't die to EZPK? I guarantee you're holding my pocket at the end of the day ole boy /shrug

e/ this reject needed to spend his time farming plat? lmao ok, better get yourself a pair of elevator shoes so you can pretend to be over 6' like big ez, namsayn?

[klant]

can't remember his name.. Mountaindew or some shit (high elf), ended up being Nihilums main enchanter and they always gave him the best shit for some reason.

Oh ya, Mellowyellow lol. That guy 😂

[Rick Sanchez]

as much as I would like to see a fresh red server, that isn't happening fellas. imo a seasons cycle would be best for the server, keeping it constantly fresh and limiting the ability for basement dwellers to have a twinked char in every leveling zone to really cripple the population. It's not a foolproof mechanic obviously like limiting an IP to x amount of characters but it helps /shrug.

[Lord Casey]

I take real offense to that.

My racism is never subtle.

[Encroaching Death]

I take real offense to that.

My racism is never subtle.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ux5cQbO_ybw/maxresdefault.jpg

[Tradesonred]

as much as I would like to see a fresh red server, that isn't happening fellas. imo a seasons cycle would be best for the server, keeping it constantly fresh and limiting the ability for basement dwellers to have a twinked char in every leveling zone to really cripple the population. It's not a foolproof mechanic obviously like limiting an IP to x amount of characters but it helps /shrug.

I would never invest time on a X1 xp server that resets every 2 years and doubt a X5-10 server is happening here. Only thing that really fucked red was the pop bleed from the initial xp loss setup and the kunark xp nerf that finished it off. With a new red server, it would be either: We get the initial pop or we dont. If we get it, it is most likely self-sustained till velious and 2-3 years of fun, minimally. If we dont, then server pretty much fucked from the start. We'd know outcome pretty quick.

[Notfame]

The arterial plaque build up alone weighs heavily on the time available to even try summoning all of the filth. Rogean could really come through with some make a wish vibes and send some of these nerds into the great beyond with at least some sense of mortal achievement before they depart.

[Tradesonred]

My buddies and I are playing there, what realm you going ? If you're playing midgard and want a group to roll with lmk.

Server launches tomorrow!

Im bored i might actually do that, i have a 100$ steam card sitting in a drawer and nothing's making me pull the trigger. What group composition do you have? I only played this game twice i think on server launches, i dont know what the fuck im doing so probably should not play an essential component of group, like a healer. Maybe an AOE bomber so we can farm shit and see if i get interested enough to take it further. Do you have a link to something somewhere to template for builds?

Heres a copy paste from the goon forums about the eden tweaks:

"Eden Players,

As we first began development on Eden, an important goal for us was to let players play the game as they want. From PvE and crafting, to solo content and fair fights, all the way to epic keep battles, we wanted to make sure players had a chance to experience this amazing game in the way they desired. With that being said, we were left with some incredibly difficult questions to try and solve to make this a reality such as: How do you help balance Realm population numbers? How can you support leveling in the battlegrounds later into a season?

As we are getting close to the start of beta, we wanted to introduce a new technology that we have been developing over the past year to help answer these questions.

Soldiers of the Realm
The Soldiers of the Realm are elite guards sent by the Kings of each realm to help assist their realm in battle. However, these soldiers are not just your regular game NPC or keep guard, they are much different. The Soldiers of the Realm will act and follow the same rules players do in RvR battles. They can be interrupted, mesmerized, and stunned! They will use attack styles, spells and move like players! They will buff their allies and even shear their enemies. They will also follow the same immunity rules as players and will receives tun/mez/root/nearsight immunities.

These soldiers are also not simply scripted encounters. They will actively respond to the environment and think. They will demez their allies, try and kite to gain an upper hand for positioning and much more. The realm soldiers will look and play like real enemies, but their names will be differentiated with their race and difficulty/tier. For example, you will see Half Ogre Elite Guard instead of Half Ogre Gryphon Knight.

These soldiers will arrive to support their realm mates in battles in many different ways that we will be employing throughout the beta and into launch.

Balancing the War
One of the first use cases for the soldiers will be to address realm imbalances. We felt that simply providing RP bonuses has proven ineffective over the years to truly address this issue. We also do not want to force people to “pick” another realm simply to have targets to fight in RvR combat. Additionally, we do not want for the less populated realm to feel they have no chance against a much larger force that is roaming the map.

An example of a use case for the Soldiers of the Realm would be the following:
– 80 Hibernians in a battlegroup stuck together
-- 16 Midgardians trying to reach an objective

The much larger Hibernian force encounters the Midgard force and a battle ensues. Obviously the battle odds are much in the favor of the Hibernian force. Neither side of the encounter would have an enjoyable experience given the unfair sizing of the encounter.

In order to balance this encounter, we can now create a force of Midgard Soldiers of the Realm that will come to assist their realm mates in need. With the technology we have developed, we can seamlessly spawn ~70 or more soldiers on demand into the game world and have them assist in the fight.

In our play testing and feedback sessions, we have found this to be an incredibly enjoyable experience! Massive battles spanning over 10+ minutes in length with a large emphasis on team tactics and helping your realm mates!

Deserters of the Realm
As the war has continued to rage over the years with no clear victor in sight, soldiers of their realms have grown disillusioned and began to desert their realms. Abandoning their moral compass, these deserters have turned to banditry and murder as they seek to stamp out an existence in these war torn lands with an allegiance to nobody but themselves.

Deserters will be a unique version of the Soldiers of the Realm that will be part of the Renegade realm. This essentially makes them killable by all factions and will also be aggressive to all types of players and themselves.

Deserters of the realm will roam in smaller groups (solo to 8man) and will potentially ambush players doing certain objectives related to quests in the frontier.

Plans for Battlegrounds
An important reason why this technology was developed was to ensure that battleground leveling was always an option no matter the population/time zone a player chooses to play. We never want a player to not venture to the battlegrounds in fear of having ‘nothing to fight’.

We absolutely love that feeling of Darkness Falls where you are always on guard for possible enemies coming to disrupt your mob hunting! Our first implementation for the battlegrounds will be adding an ambush mechanic to the current kill quests that were implemented last week to create a similar feeling.

While doing these quests, there will be the possibility of an appropriately scaled deserter group/small-man spawning and attacking you and your allies. This chance will be random but will always be present as we aim to have no completely ‘safe’ objectives in the battlegrounds.

Our second big implementation in the battlegrounds will be the idea of an on-going Realm war between the armies. This would consist of Realm Soldiers being spawned at certain intervals based on the population balance of the realms at the associated Portal Keeps. From here, the soldiers would march to setup a siege camp outside of the keep and use siege equipment to destroy the walls/doors.

Opposing forces would also spawn and attempt to destroy the siege encampment. The current owners of the CK could also have reinforcement come and sally forth to disrupt the siege and protect their keep.

This system will allow us to scale the encounters up to a minimum/maximum number of participants (let’s say 40v40) to provide an enjoyable experience for all.

All of these encounters are subject to testing/tuning as we test them throughout the rest of the Alpha and Beta.

Initial Testing
We will initially start testing the Realm Soldiers in the battlegrounds next week,particularly Cathal Valley. As this is their first foray into a completely unpredictable environment, we will be keeping a close eye on them to make sure they behave! We will continue to gather data as we watch their interaction with the environment and monitor as they deal with the millions of different things that can happen during hectic RvR!

After we are happy with their general reactions to all types of encounters and battles, we will begin to implement the ambush mechanic for the various BGs.

Future State
We are incredibly excited and proud to introduce these encounters to the community! Keep in mind this is a brand new system and will be quite buggy on initial release to the public.

We are hoping to introduce this mechanic for various encounters throughout Eden. One such example would be creating custom encounters for new players to learn the PvP aspect of the game without having the stress of participating for the first time in RvR. We are excited by the amount of brand new players who have shown interest in Eden and we are hoping to build out a fun and engaging new player experience for them to enjoy.

Additionally for those fellow tech nerds out there, we will be hooking up some basic Machine Learning/Reinforcement Learning algorithms to a set of the Soldiers down the line. From here, we will see if they are capable of learning the intricacies of combat and perhaps even come up with some fun strategies of their own! This will be a fun side project for some of our developers but no set date for this to start nor timeline on the project.

We are incredibly excited to share this feature with you all! Stay tuned for additional updates and we are looking forward to seeing you all on the battlefield!

- Eden Staff"

[Tradesonred]

And hopping on the Eden webpage, sheeeeeeet this is what should be happening in the EQ emu scene, dont know why this never happened /shrug

"Eden players,

The quests are in! We are proud to announce that we have implemented 600+ new hand crafted quests into the game, and we are just getting started! The first round of open world quests will be available in all of the classic zones. We wanted to provide a system that is both fun and engaging, while still giving you choice in where you want to explore and pve.

A quick recap...
Every zone will come with a set of quests geared for every 4 levels. These quests are tuned for solo-small man players, but they can be completed by any group size. They are sized so that a solo player could complete a quest in a reasonable short play session (10-30 minutes). In every town of every zone, there will be a quest giver who holds all of the quests available to a player for that level.

The teleporter will include a list of zones and their quest level ranges. This means that a player can simply visit any town in a zone with an appropriate quest level range."

[Rick Sanchez]

yeah man, the staff genuinely cares and is pretty solid. DAOC by nature blended pvp, realm vs realm and pve pretty well with the mechanics they have in place innately. Anyway if you're new to DAoC take a look at the three different realms and if Midgard interests you and want a guild to roll with let me know.

[Tassador]

Server been dead for years and now the active forum guys are super boring long and suck at EQ.

Incredibly boring. Not entertaining and not enticing. I am sure nobody reads your shit.

[Tradesonred]

yeah man, the staff genuinely cares and is pretty solid. DAOC by nature blended pvp, realm vs realm and pve pretty well with the mechanics they have in place innately. Anyway if you're new to DAoC take a look at the three different realms and if Midgard interests you and want a guild to roll with let me know.

Send me a private msg, might as well roll midgard.

[Rushmore]

what's it been 15 years and most of us still here.

[Jazzy]

When this bitch ass server gonna get wiped the fuck up

[Encroaching Death]

what's it been 15 years and most of us still here.

We're gonna need a classic server for P99.

Project 2009.

[Tradesonred]

Time flies for sure. Past march, more time will be gone since launch of red, than between red and EQ's original launch.

[magnetaress]

Just do the great reroll. Play fresh toons. Don't twink.

[magnetaress]

u know how u always sayin u should just come back gustoo and not wait

well u should

no point in delaying dont wait for 2.0 it will be out when its out red1.0 will be here and its actually poppin quite well