Multiplayer game ("To 8!")

[lcasinol]

"To 8!"

How to play: Game will begin once each of the 6 players have paid their entry fees. Then, each player will /random 100, in an orderly fashion. Top roll of each /random will be recorded as one point. In the event of a tie, each player will be awarded a point. If a player rolls improperly, or before the proper time to roll, their roll for that sequence of rolls will be forfeited.

How to win: The game will end when the first player reaches 8 points. The top 3 places will be paid accordingly to the entry fee of the game. In the event of a tie, a single /random will determine placings.

Example of how game is played
lcasinol says,"Players, /random 0 100 please" <roll phase>
Player 1 rolls 85
Player 2 rolls 42
Player 3 rolls 14
Player 4 rolls 67
Player 5 rolls 89
Player 6 rolls 58
<end of roll phase, no rolling will take place while scoring phase is taking place>
lcasinol says,"Player 5 (1)."
lcasinol says, Players, /random 0 100 please"
<roll phase>
Game continues until Player 1-6 reaches 8.

Final tally: Player 1 (8), Player 2 (7), Player 3(4), Player 4(6), Player 5(6), Player 6(3).
Player 1 and 2 win the respective amount for their game, and player 5 and 5 need to /random 0 100 to settle their tie. Player 4 rolls 83, player 5 rolls 15. Player 4 wins the 3rd place prize

Current games:
280 entry - 500 win
540 entry - 1000 win
2800 entry - 5000 win
5400 entry - 10,000 win

[Ferok]

The word "game" indicates that players make decisions one way or another that somehow affects their outcome.

This is just an overly-elaborate /ran 100. In other words, a lottery.

[Excision Rottun]

"To 8!"

How to play: Top roll of each /random will be recorded as one point. I

How to win: The game will end when the first player reaches 8 points.

Final tally: Player 1 (11)

How could a player possibly score 11 points if the game is over once someone reaches 8 and you are only awarded 1 point per top roll?

[Trimm]

Dear casino:

Mind taking this horseshit away from the NFP Bank? Those of us using it as a legit area to buy/sell items are sick of the spam.

Regards, the rest of the server.

[Aaron]

I love the casino gimmick personally. Just something else to do in NFP.

[Ferok]

I love the casino gimmick personally. Just something else to do in NFP.

It'd really be more advantageous for you to find a friend, settle on an amount, and random 100 for each-other's plat. I see no reason to pay a third party for this service.

[Alawen Everywhere]

The word "game" indicates that players make decisions one way or another that somehow affects their outcome.

This is just an overly-elaborate /ran 100. In other words, a lottery.

I'm not an enthusiast of games like this one, but I don't think that your definition of a game is general usage. For this meaning, a game is usually defined as a contest with rules to determine a winner, which this game, the lottery and slot machines all certainly have. In the case of simple games like these, the decision-making involves choices like when to play, who or what to play against, how much to wager and how long to play. Even the seemingly simplest games can involve strategy and skill.

At a meta level, one of the most powerful strategies is convincing one's opponents that there are no strategies or skills for a particular game. For example, in the game we all share, one group of players might convince another group of players that results are due to circumstances beyond their control, such as intervention by developers, sophisticated custom software and psychic abilities. In that situation, the second group's belief that they could not win would eventually become the proverbial self-fulfilling prophecy.

Just sayin'.

[lcasinol]

Dear casino:

Mind taking this horseshit away from the NFP Bank? Those of us using it as a legit area to buy/sell items are sick of the spam.

Regards, the rest of the server.

Once the game is filled up, it will be moved away from the bank in order to spare those who are at the bank. This has been determined before you so kindly asked.

It'd really be more advantageous for you to find a friend, settle on an amount, and random 100 for each-other's plat. I see no reason to pay a third party for this service.

You are playing against 5 other people. Otherwise, why don't you just find a friend and exchange 1,000 platinum between each other? Besides, I feel I've developed a reputation as a trusted medium.

[lcasinol]

How could a player possibly score 11 points if the game is over once someone reaches 8 and you are only awarded 1 point per top roll?

Thank you for pointing this out. It has been properly adjusted.

[Ferok]

I'm not an enthusiast of games like this one, but I don't think that your definition of a game is general usage. For this meaning, a game is usually defined as a contest with rules to determine a winner, which this game, the lottery and slot machines all certainly have. In the case of simple games like these, the decision-making involves choices like when to play, who or what to play against, how much to wager and how long to play. Even the seemingly simplest games can involve strategy and skill.

I don't really have any response to your second half, because that's not really a point I'd contest with you.

Slot machines and lotteries I wouldn't define as games. The very simplest of games in most books is rock-paper-scissors. And of course, there are leagues and whatnot who play it competitively - for that very reason, it does involve choice and (optionally) strategy. Similarly, poker is a game; blackjack; etc.

Random 100 isn't a game to me. It's just luck. If there's no skill, no choice, nothing that can give me an edge on my competitor (or vice-versa) based on something that I do, you're more-or-less a spectator.

[Ronnie555]

uhh.. the lotto is considered a game.

for all you guys whippin out dictionaries and getting technical.

not tryin to take sides here, i don't give a s--- bout the lotto.. but lotto is a game. not all games take skill.

Everquest for example =)

[Goobles]

Why is there all this debate?

A game is defined as an event to achieve an objective.
Why is fishing a game? What about Mouse Trap?

Seriously.

[yt2005]

To add to the useless conversation...

Candy Land.

[Goobles]

To add to the useless conversation...

Candy Land.

Life.

[Ferok]

Life.

Am I the only one that finds the concept of "Life" depressing? Your life is a series of dice rolls, of which you have no control.

Bah.

Fine, but I stick by my definition. Not surprisingly, this isn't the first time I've had a difference of opinion when it comes to semantics.

[Goobles]

http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lifegame.jpg

[Aprisle]

How does this not piss off GM's lol

[Goobles]

No foul play = no cause for GMs to get involved imo.

[Alawen Everywhere]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/game

3 a (1) : a physical or mental competition conducted according to rules with the participants in direct opposition to each other

I'm all for marching to the tune of your own drum, but I don't see the point of redefining words to win a straw man argument.

[Goobles]

1 a (1) : activity engaged in for diversion or amusement : play (2) : the equipment for a game b : often derisive or mocking jesting : fun, sport <make game of a nervous player>
2 a : a procedure or strategy for gaining an end : tactic b : an illegal or shady scheme or maneuver : racket
3 a (1) : a physical or mental competition conducted according to rules with the participants in direct opposition to each other (2) : a division of a larger contest (3) : the number of points necessary to win (4) : points scored in certain card games (as in all fours) by a player whose cards count up the highest (5) : the manner of playing in a contest (6) : the set of rules governing a game (7) : a particular aspect or phase of play in a game or sport <a football team's kicking game> b plural : organized athletics c (1) : a field of gainful activity : line <the newspaper game> (2) : any activity undertaken or regarded as a contest involving rivalry, strategy, or struggle <the dating game> <the game of politics>; also : the course or period of such an activity <got into aviation early in the game> (3) : area of expertise : specialty 3 <comedy is not my game>
4 a (1) : animals under pursuit or taken in hunting; especially : wild animals hunted for sport or food (2) : the flesh of game animals b archaic : pluck c : a target or object especially of ridicule or attack —often used in the phrase fair game

[Alawen Everywhere]

I don't really have any response to your second half, because that's not really a point I'd contest with you.

Slot machines and lotteries I wouldn't define as games. The very simplest of games in most books is rock-paper-scissors. And of course, there are leagues and whatnot who play it competitively - for that very reason, it does involve choice and (optionally) strategy. Similarly, poker is a game; blackjack; etc.

Random 100 isn't a game to me. It's just luck. If there's no skill, no choice, nothing that can give me an edge on my competitor (or vice-versa) based on something that I do, you're more-or-less a spectator.

Jan-ken-pon is not a particularly simple game. The rules involve abstract cultural references that are meaningless to some people--scissors in particular are advanced mechanical constructs known only in contemporary civilizations. The game play is also quite complex, involving reading one's opponent and detecting patterns of non-random behavior. I would argue that, because of the real-time element, janken is actually more difficult to play than poker, but that is likely because math comes more easily to me than real-time analysis.

The simplest game is probably a foot race. Another simple game is guessing how many fingers one is holding up, although that requires the concept of counting. The most simple game involving paraphernalia is probably drawing straws.

Many games are determined in large part by luck, thus the term "games of chance".

If you are genuinely interested in topics like this, I would recommend the book Games and Information: An Introduction to Game Theory by Eric Rasmussen.

[Aaron]

How does this not piss off GM's lol

Why would it?

[Goobles]

lol

Lol.

[Lanor]

instead of arguing over a dumb point that nobody really gives a shit about, let's discuss the thousands upon thousands of plat lcasinol is raking in with little to no effort and how he's getting away with it without getting called out.

[Crone]

Is he raking in a lot? Worth it despite all the public criticism his Casino gets? Maybe.

I'd rock and roll with it for a while to get some twink gear rolling, then just stop. Vanish. Like it never existed. :)

[lcasinol]

It is hard to entice new players. I'm trying to offer this game as a trusted medium for people to play in against each other in a multiplayer setting.