Class Populations?

[Nytewind TP]

I saw someone a couple days ago posted an approx # of what classes are played. Rangers being near the bottom etc. Someone have that info? I've been away for awhile and thinking of rolling a class that is low in numbers and possibly needed.

Thanks

[greatdane]

Log in anytime and do a '/who all [class] count' and see for yourself. They rank pretty much like this:

Necromancer
Magician
Druid
Enchanter
Cleric
Monk
Shaman
Bard
Warrior
Rogue
Wizard
Shadowknight
Paladin
Ranger

[Nytewind TP]

Ah thanks. I know alot of commands, but class count was one I wasn't aware of. Thanks

[Dr4z3r]

The only class anyone needs you to play is one you're good at and enjoy.

Anything else is pointless.

[Slave]

Rogues rank right near the bottom and are outstanding groupers and raiders. So if you like to stare at ass all day, there you go.

[Nytewind TP]

Right, I was thinking of a Rogue. Possible Bard or Rogue in the future.

[alexandervaccaro]

Log in anytime and do a '/who all [class] count' and see for yourself. They rank pretty much like this:

Necromancer
Magician
Druid
Enchanter
Cleric
Monk
Shaman
Bard
Warrior
Rogue
Wizard
Shadowknight
Paladin
Ranger

Really? I would think Monks, Shamans further up on that list, Enchanter/Cleric lower down. Maybe even Bards above Clerics

[Swish]

There's an abundance of clerics at the moment, I had a cleric alt at 35, cant move for clerics in MM, OT and SolA at the moment.

[Raavak]

Why are rogues so low on that? They have great (the best?) dps. Is it because they are expensive to equip or something?

[Nytewind TP]

Strange to see melee/hybrid-melee in the middle or lower on that list.

[alexandervaccaro]

Why are rogues so low on that? They have great (the best?) dps. Is it because they are expensive to equip or something?

to my knowledge it's because they are very difficult to level up. Probably the hardest class, since they suck terribly at soloing-

Also because a lot of people think(know?) backstab is broken right now.

[Duie]

melee and hybrid melee need groups to level efectivly and w/ 1 and 2 being the most played which are also the most solo friendly .... ...well lets just say lfg all the time isnt very fun hence why melee/hybrids are underplayed on this server .

I think once group bonuses go in that you will see a lot of those necro/mages rerolling.

[Hamahakki]

May 28 2011 (primetime)

NEC 56
MNK 47
SHM 46
MAG 43
CLR 39
DRU 38
ENC 38
WAR 37
WIZ 23
ROG 22
PAL 21
RNG 19
SHD 16
BRD 14

June 12 2011 (later at night)

Nec 39
MNK 27
SHM 28
MAG 29
CLR 20
DRU 23
ENC 17
WAR 15
WIZ 8
ROG 14
PAL 5
RNG 8
SHD 12
BRD 14

Of course this is only players who aren't ANON, so it probably overrepresents must-group classes like warriors and rogues, and underrepresents classes who get spammed for ports and buffs (enc, dru, wiz). Not sure about clerics, who have to group to level but also get spammed for rezzes.

[Rasah]

May 28 2011 (primetime)

NEC 56
MNK 47
SHM 46
MAG 43
CLR 39
DRU 38
ENC 38
WAR 37
WIZ 23
ROG 22
PAL 21
RNG 19
SHD 16
BRD 14

This isn't far off from what I'd expect. Especially the magnitude. Though I would have thought bards would be higher. But the hybrids are holding down the bottom, so that goes to show how the exp penalty is perceived. Druids used to be up there, but they got a little more difficult to play after the last couple patches.

[bakkily]

right now my main pretty much is my ranger, and just focused on lvling in mm, either if im not in a group, i solo ent fine, or i can find a group there

rogs dont seem so bad was grouped with one last night, and he wasnt using the best he could, gloomwater spear, and was doing some nice backstabbing, then we had another rog joined, had some badass weapons equipped and was doing id say maybe more dps then i was doing

but yea rogs are very mush group depedable, and you can get some decent pokers for 1.2-2k and still do your job

[Slave]

This isn't far off from what I'd expect. Especially the magnitude. Though I would have thought bards would be higher. But the hybrids are holding down the bottom, so that goes to show how the exp penalty is perceived. Druids used to be up there, but they got a little more difficult to play after the last couple patches.

The problem with bards is that there is no #melody on this server. Making them a literal pain to play. I ruined my goddamn right wrist on bards in Live. Should have sued.

[Nytewind TP]

Nice, thanks for the info/data. Think I'll be rolling a Bard to help the #s a bit ;)

[bakkily]

most bards ive grouped with do there job, but the last 3 weeks has been lvling with 1-30 chars, i dont think i want to make another alt, man so much of a mess lvling 4-14 in cb

best dps out of all melees are deff the monks, then rogs, wars/ranger/bard, those 3 classes can be versatile, many groups ive out dps'sd bard and wars, and time they got the better of me, all depends about gear

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

The problem with bards is that there is no #melody on this server. Making them a literal pain to play. I ruined my goddamn right wrist on bards in Live. Should have sued.

I thought when I took a break from FPS I wouldn't have to worry about carpel tunnel anymore. Then I made a bard.

[Nytewind TP]

I did a class count last night for giggles to see what/who was online. Approx 5-530ish CST High was Nec with 75 and Low was Ranger with 18...

[Slave]

best dps out of all melees are deff the monks, then rogs, wars/ranger/bard,

The best dps out of the melees are Rogue, then Monk. This is not really debatable except where the devs ruined Rogue backstab the last patch. And next patch it will be fixed again. (hopefully)

Bards cannot hope to match Paladin and Shadowknight dps, nor ranger/warrior.

[VincentVolaju]

Yah lately Ive been seeing Rog as the lowest on the list, next to Wizzy then Ranger. Ive actually been thinking bout making a Rog lately and trying them out since its 1 of the only class's I havent played yet. But I mean, if there pretty much main and only attack is nerfed then, eh, prob not the best idea to roll one now lol.

[Kope]

Yah lately Ive been seeing Rog as the lowest on the list, next to Wizzy then Ranger. Ive actually been thinking bout making a Rog lately and trying them out since its 1 of the only class's I havent played yet. But I mean, if there pretty much main and only attack is nerfed then, eh, prob not the best idea to roll one now lol.

Or...the BEST time to roll one :)

[quellren]

Or...the BEST time to roll one :)

At this point if you're just rolling, your DPS will be about the same whether you have a Trak tooth or a Dragoon Dirk.

[Uthgaard]

http://i52.tinypic.com/2dlll6e.jpg

Here you go. Broken down into level brackets, limited to only players active since midnight gmt June 1, 2011. Deleted characters weren't limited by a timestamp or level bracket.

[FAHall]

CURSE YOU COLORBLINDNESS!!!!


I play a necromancer though, so that one's in bright yellow, which is my favorite color because I can see it.

And, in all honesty, it looks like Pallys, Rangers, Bards, Wizards, SKs, and Druids are the only "underrepresented" classes in the endgame.

The rest seem to be 10% give or take 3... Enchanters sure have a bunch though. I guess that only surprises me because Enchanter is the class that by far interests me the least.


Pally's Rangers, Bards, and SKs all have the experience penalty, so a smaller endgame population for them makes sense.


Now, if you look at the lowbie game... the playing field evens out quite a bit, with only the much mocked Ranger being underrepresented and Necros/Warriors being a bit above the norm.



What does this tell me?

Play whatever the heck you think will be the most fun.

If you play a hybrid, it's going to take longer to get to 60, but that shouldn't come as any kind of surprise.


My thoughts on the whole thing? Think like an 10 year old. My 10 year old brother decided to play this with me (which should be super fun).

He picked a Half Elf Paladin... you know why?

Because he wanted to be a guy that wore armor (War, Pal, SK), he wanted to be a super duper Good guy (okay... Paladin), and he wanted to be an elf of some kind... the obvious choice for him was Half Elf. He spent maybe 5 minutes thinking about it, and he loves his character.

[Uthgaard]

If you're colorblind, they all begin at the vertical shear line at the top. So you can just count clockwise from that.

[Anger]

Interesting chart!

[Obsidus]

Looking at that chart I can only think "lol 40% exp penalty", and that tanks must be a pita to find.

[Uthgaard]

And that there are a shitload of druids who stopped levelling at 40-49 just to port.

[Troy]

Looking at that chart I can only think "lol 40% exp penalty", and that tanks must be a pita to find.

And that there are a shitload of druids who stopped levelling at 40-49 just to port.

That basically sums it all up.

I must be very weird though if my favorite classes to play are Bard, Ranger, Paladin, and Shadowknight :eek:

I'd be on a bard main if it weren't for tendonitis in both wrists, hence the ranger main and paladin alt.

[Nedala]

Im surprised theres more lvl 60 encs than necros.

[Hamahakki]

Im surprised theres more lvl 60 encs than necros.

They must all be anon :)

It doesn't surprise me too much - they can solo to 60 or they can easily get good groups. And I think the average enchanter player is more "hardcore" than a necro too so the average /played per enc might be higher

[FAHall]

If you're colorblind, they all begin at the vertical shear line at the top. So you can just count clockwise from that.

Exactly what I did.

I see just enough color to figure this out. :)

[Lazortag]

http://i52.tinypic.com/2dlll6e.jpg

Here you go. Broken down into level brackets, limited to only players active since midnight gmt June 1, 2011. Deleted characters weren't limited by a timestamp or level bracket.

4% of level 60's are Bards? Who are all these level 60 Bards? I know of like 5 or 6 at most. They must all be anon or something.

[Uthgaard]

There are only 206 active level 60s. 9 of them are bards. Compared to 8734 active 1-9.

[ElanoraBryght]

Here you go.

Love it - thanks !

[Nytewind TP]

Thanks for the info, the chart incressed my headache ten fold, but great info :)

[Troy]

There are only 206 active level 60s. 9 of them are bards. Compared to 8734 active 1-9.

That's a lot of 60's, more than I'd have guessed by a fair amount.

[Messianic]

Im surprised theres more lvl 60 encs than necros.

[Mcbard]

Wow that's incredibly awesome Uthgaard, thanks! :)

[Dr4z3r]

That chart is awesome, thanks Uth!

Do you still have the data? It would be cool to know the total number for the other 5 rings.

[formallydickman]

Just wanted to say thanks for the chart and thanks for the colorblind awareness <3

[Werlop]

Wow, that's a handy chart. Thanks!

[Ridez]

gadda remeber that alot of people make human wars as traders, and rich people make bards so they can move while encumbered at the lowest level

[Wizerud]

Good to know that rangers are the least deleted class.

[JoeyD]

My Druid is 40 now, once he reaches 60, I'm going to start either a ranger or a paladin.

[Nirgon]

There are only 206 active level 60s. 9 of them are bards. Compared to 8734 active 1-9.

Unrelated- I request a wire frame gif of the dark elf offensive casting animation.

Name your price!

[Uthgaard]

Unrelated- I request a wire frame gif of the dark elf offensive casting animation.

Name your price!

Male or Female?

[Nirgon]

Male.


How much time I spend making my own sound effects is my business only.

Again, I offer similar time investment services/R&D time for you upon delivery!

[Uthgaard]

http://i53.tinypic.com/90vpe9.gif

http://i53.tinypic.com/90vpe9.gif


You'll need to resize it to use it in an avatar.

[Nirgon]

Perfecto. It just kind of misses the initial standing for 3.0 while the spell casted, but that's just a non issue at this point for me.

Thanks again Uth.

[Kope]

Bump because this thread deserves it!