Another told you so! Ukraine is getting owned!

[Diziet]

Dang, this thread has descended into two or three GOPtards just circlejerking about how much they all love Daddy Putin and wish he'd bring his missile barrages to American cities.

[Patrece]

sorry u lost

we rootin for putin

[Botten]

sorry u lost

we rootin for putin

I definitely believe you are rooting around in Putin's ass.

[Patrece]

You really are a Rotten Bug......


Al Jazeera has stopped posting maps of the progress of the war and no one is reporting on Bakhmut now, lol

Please rise for the Russian national anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

[Botten]

You really are a Rotten Bug......


Al Jazeera has stopped posting maps of the progress of the war and no one is reporting on Bakhmut now, lol



https://liveuamap.com/

Wow you are dumb.

5/31/23 at 4:38 AM EDT
Ukrainian Forces Fire on Retreating Wagner Troops Leaving Bakhmut (https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-forces-wagner-group-yevgeny-prigozhin-bakhmut-retreat-1803508)

05:29 EDT, 31 May 2023
No escape: Ukraine reveals it has killed scores of Wagner mercenaries as they tried to withdraw from Bakhmut (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12143161/Ukraine-reveals-killed-scores-Wagner-mercenaries-tried-withdraw-Bakhmut.html)

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

currently swedes are getting fucked by non assimilated migrants

But how is that different from a normal day? Ask the Swedes how they feel about Norway. It has been constant for them. Old hat.

[Patrece]

Also Newsweek - no bio labs

And.... LOL..... They cite SNOPES as a source in their articles about that?! Hahaha omfg

Ty

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Dang, this thread has descended into two or three GOPtards just circlejerking about how much they all love Daddy Putin and wish he'd bring his missile barrages to American cities.

And, detailed and often deeply philosophical descriptions of said forum dumpster fire.

It's an ace, Tony, an ace! This is literature! High art!

Let's just say I know how Dante felt, amirite? Jeez, out the anus and right back into his mouth? Fuck, Donnie Two Scoops ended not good. Satan nasty.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Also Newsweek - no bio labs

And.... LOL..... They cite SNOPES as a source in their articles about that?! Hahaha omfg

Ty

Honest question, if Ukraine manages to fully push Russia out of its territory, how would you respond to that?

Like, what's the endgame you want here?

[Patrece]

Globohobo (notice how horrible this economy is) losing any access to Ukraine as a scum pit for human trafficking and developing gain of function biological garbage to use in their schemes

That would be great

All these wasted billions did was delay the inevitable and get *hundreds of thousands killed*

Saying Russia is a blind aggressor here is as bad as the WMDs in Iraq lies (Mueller time much?)

[Diziet]

Globohobo (notice how horrible this economy is) losing any access to Ukraine as a scum pit for human trafficking and developing gain of function biological garbage to use in their schemes

That would be great

All these wasted billions did was delay the inevitable and get *hundreds of thousands killed*

Saying Russia is a blind aggressor here is as bad as the WMDs in Iraq lies (Mueller time much?)

Still too scared of staff to call it homo? Maybe your balls will finally drop once Putler makes all your dreams come true and starts hurling ballistic missiles at Los Angeles and New York City.

[Patrece]

I mean are you idiots really this dense?

Russia was a massive turning point in the war AGAINST Hitler and doomed him.

Then you have this shit, which you continue to ignore no matter how much it is rubbed in your faces...

https://i.imgur.com/81fsvuB.png
https://i.imgur.com/Zahzx0Q.png






Like, I dont know what the hell else to tell ya. These clowns are truly irredeemable and outside reality.

[Jimjam]

actually most of the soviet fighters were Ukranian.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Still too scared of staff to call it homo? Maybe your balls will finally drop once Putler makes all your dreams come true and starts hurling ballistic missiles at Los Angeles and New York City.

I'm not needed on this thread.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Honest question, if Ukraine manages to fully push Russia out of its territory, how would you respond to that?

Like, what's the endgame you want here?

You Botton, Diziet. So many others. This is rotten work, but it has to be done. It's like volunteering to become a temp worker at a slaughtterhouse in the 1920's so you can at least create a document trail.

No endgame. Autoflush moves to next talking point is endgame. Agit-prop -- yes, this is supposed to be sowing "confusion" lol -- is simply meant to create a volatile enrgy which then ... profit?

So these political underpants gnomes just do this, year after year, topic after topic, panic after panic, idiot wave after idiot wave. They die, others replace them. Soon no one remembers their name because this is not about memory. This is about riding the wave of whatever is stupid at a particular moment in time. They fire up the reactors.

Reactionaries are befuddled people. They assume everyone panicked, angry, outraged, etc.

But a reactionary is a very specific kind of person. Like people who grow orchids or who memorize box scores. So, they end up in this gigantic mess, decade after decade after decade.

I like to watch.

[Patrece]

Indigenous people joined Cortes against the Aztecs as they were tired of their kids being kidnapped and sacrificed.

That’s what is funny about Americans.

Aztecs were the colonizers. Cortes was a liberator of the oppressed tribes.

History is not a Marvel movie.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/81fsvuB.png


TIL, the skull stickers we used to put on our helmets in football were nazi logos.

coach was more based than i thought.

[Ooloo]

Indigenous people joined Cortes against the Aztecs as they were tired of their kids being kidnapped and sacrificed.

That’s what is funny about Americans.

Aztecs were the colonizers. Cortes was a liberator of the oppressed tribes.

History is not a Marvel movie.

No see only white people can be bad.

If non-white people are bad it's still white people's fault in some roundabout way that tortures logic and common sense.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

My daily meme digest of this crap.
https://i.imgur.com/A2oUVHD.jpg

Which then leads to this apparent hell on earth:
https://i.imgur.com/Z59KwT6.jpg

[Elizondo]

Honest question, if Ukraine manages to fully push Russia out of its territory, how would you respond to that?

Like, what's the endgame you want here?

I just don't see that happening

Russia is not fighting a conventional war like people in the West perceive them to be

hth

[Trexller]

Russia is not fighting a conventional war like people in the West perceive them to be

You're correct about that

like 99.999% of people in the entire world don't fully understand the motivations behind their war in ukraine.

it actually is super duper complicated and requires alot of research into non-biased sources which are rare and hard to find

any "media source" just wants to polarize everyone on the subject for clicks and votes

[Patriam1066]

TIL, the skull stickers we used to put on our helmets in football were nazi logos.

coach was more based than i thought.

You played football too? God bless Texas

[Patriam1066]

I just don't see that happening

Russia is not fighting a conventional war like people in the West perceive them to be

hth

Probably not. Still, Russia getting set back a decade with a couple million military age males gone is good for the home team, especially since they started it, are in the wrong 100%, and are now receiving divine punishment

[Trexller]

are in the wrong 100%,

are they though?

im not saying they are, but might ultimately does make right

when you look at the world through the eyes of the russian, the muscovite, the viking/cossack hybrid, you see it very differently from anyone born anywhere else in the world

you see imperialists squabbling over resources, you see financial titans all vieing for a larger piece of the pie, you see wars waged for no other reason than to prop up sections of western economies. you know you wanna do your own thing, and not play their games the way they want to play them.

you look at your own history, having been invaded ~50 times. you look at the territories around you, which you owned for alot more of history, than you did not own them.

you see global temps creeping up slightly, you know that means some regions will become uninhabitable in a century, you also know that regions too cold to inhabit now, will become prime real estate. you know that when the permafrost thaws, and artic trade routes are reliable, you gain access to trillions in untapped resources. you know that wars are fought for these reasons.

you stand in st petersburg, or moscow, or novosibirsk, and you look outward. you aren't a westerner or asian or middle easterner or african or south american.

you're descendent of a tribe all your own, and you're looking at the world through those eyes.

and you're thinking, "what do I have in 10 years, 100 years"

justification or not, you never go to war fighting the war you want to fight, you go to war to fight the war that you think you have to fight.

IMO Russia is taking a page from the chinese playbook, don't plan for the next year or decade, plan for the century.

Planet Earth has never faced a team of russia and china before, together this is a team of vast resources and steadfast resolve.

[Ekco]

You played football too? God bless Texas

Pee Wee, we had maroon-colored jerseys so the other team couldn't keep track of the ball, and shit like the QB just saying "hut!" over n over until someone on the other team would get an offside penalty

went undefeated one year lol

[Botten]

Lot of people banned and the political thread is now locked.

Perhaps a break from politics in the off-topic forum is a good idea in general.

.

[unsunghero]

Lot of people banned and the political thread is now locked.

Perhaps a break from politics in the off-topic forum is a good idea in general.

.

I didn’t see the need to lock the thread, not after banning everyone anyway

But w/e I don’t envy the job of any mod, in game or otherwise

This is a dead/dying forum anyway :(

[Toxigen]

lol horza banned again

what an idiot

[Jimjam]

Live by the fword die by the fword.

[MrSparkle001]

TIL, the skull stickers we used to put on our helmets in football were nazi logos.

coach was more based than i thought.

Pirates were nazis too, 200 years before nazis were nazis.

Crazy how the world works.

[MrSparkle001]

are they though?

im not saying they are, but might ultimately does make right

when you look at the world through the eyes of the russian, the muscovite, the viking/cossack hybrid, you see it very differently from anyone born anywhere else in the world

Yeah while squatting in your bootleg Adidas gear.

https://www.diggitmagazine.com/sites/default/files/styles/2_1_all/public/field/image/Cover_3.jpg?itok=bHEFXpum&timestamp=1513447308

E1y9A7sCLUc

[Toxigen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/slavs_squatting/

[Patriam1066]

Yeah while squatting in your bootleg Adidas gear.

https://www.diggitmagazine.com/sites/default/files/styles/2_1_all/public/field/image/Cover_3.jpg?itok=bHEFXpum&timestamp=1513447308

E1y9A7sCLUc

They really love adidas track suits

[Patriam1066]

Pee Wee, we had maroon-colored jerseys so the other team couldn't keep track of the ball, and shit like the QB just saying "hut!" over n over until someone on the other team would get an offside penalty

went undefeated one year lol

Yoh should’ve played high school. The brain damage I got makes me scowl, ready to attack to this day

[Patriam1066]

are they though?

im not saying they are, but might ultimately does make right

when you look at the world through the eyes of the russian, the muscovite, the viking/cossack hybrid, you see it very differently from anyone born anywhere else in the world

you see imperialists squabbling over resources, you see financial titans all vieing for a larger piece of the pie, you see wars waged for no other reason than to prop up sections of western economies. you know you wanna do your own thing, and not play their games the way they want to play them.

you look at your own history, having been invaded ~50 times. you look at the territories around you, which you owned for alot more of history, than you did not own them.

you see global temps creeping up slightly, you know that means some regions will become uninhabitable in a century, you also know that regions too cold to inhabit now, will become prime real estate. you know that when the permafrost thaws, and artic trade routes are reliable, you gain access to trillions in untapped resources. you know that wars are fought for these reasons.

you stand in st petersburg, or moscow, or novosibirsk, and you look outward. you aren't a westerner or asian or middle easterner or african or south american.

you're descendent of a tribe all your own, and you're looking at the world through those eyes.

and you're thinking, "what do I have in 10 years, 100 years"

justification or not, you never go to war fighting the war you want to fight, you go to war to fight the war that you think you have to fight.

IMO Russia is taking a page from the chinese playbook, don't plan for the next year or decade, plan for the century.

Planet Earth has never faced a team of russia and china before, together this is a team of vast resources and steadfast resolve.

If they had a plan, they would’ve joined NATO so as to not be consumed by China. Russia is a vassal now, they could’ve been not a shit hole and not reconquered by the Yuan dynasty. Instead, they chose Lucifer and the penalty will be eternal servitude to people who shit in the streets

[Patriam1066]

Russia will be lucky to hold their Muslim territories and Iran will be lucky to hold Azerbaijan. It’s amazing how self proclaimed nationalists can ignore reality

Not that we don’t do it, but Russia has no birthrate and they’re giving chechens combat experience. Genius!

[Evia]

TV told me putin a bad guy
TV told me ukraine good guy
I'm smart

[Toxigen]

tv told me covid serious

tv told me get vaxx

im smart

[Trexller]

If they had a plan

assuming that they don't have a plan is how you lose a war. everyone loves to laugh and make jokes about the initial push for kyiv, everyone claims that russia's claim of a feint is to cover up their own ineptitude.

ineptitude or not, it made ukraine and nato focus resources on defending major cities like kyiv, kharkiv, odesa and many others in the west/south

the so called inept feint afforded the russians the time to claim a land bridge to the crimean territory, and enough northern ground to reinforce the soft underbelly of some of their south-eastern plains.

there are only about 130 people in the russian govt who actually know the desired outcome.

of course we should support the ukrainians, because any new nato allies/vassals are always a good thing. We live in the west, that's ultimately good for us geo-politically.

i can't stress it enough, that looking at this conflict and thinking the reasons are simple is extremely dangerous for anyone.

china doesn't care if it experiences a few bad years, or if the economy tanks. economic prosperity is icing on their communist cake, but they are happy to eat it without sugar on top as well.

again, if russia is taking pages from the CCP playbook and looking at the next 100 years instead of the next 100 months, whats going on now in 2023 is but a mere speck of sand on a beach.

can't say it enough either that China fully allied with Russia will be very, very difficult to contend with. You have the unwavering will of the CCP married to vast limitless resources.

take away all the semiconductors you want, sanction them all you want, none of it is gonna matter if these 2 players decide that they are better off standing together then cooperating with the world at large.

[Ekco]

Yoh should’ve played high school. The brain damage I got makes me scowl, ready to attack to this day

i literally saw how harder the hits were in jr. high and noped the fuck out. i think everyone should play in elementary school though.

[Toxigen]

how is this thread not locked yet?

[MrSparkle001]

Yoh should’ve played high school. The brain damage I got makes me scowl, ready to attack to this day

Yep high school football did the same to me. One too many wicked concussions and it took years to recover from it. We didn't know back then just how serious it was to suffer multiple concussions.

[Evia]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324844

[Ekco]

how is this thread not locked yet?

jannies have shit aim just like the Phalanx.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMWYxOTkwNThkZDIzN2Y0YzIwZTMxMmI 0Mjg4YTEwYzA4MWVjNGU5ZCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZzX 2dpZklkJmN0PWc/RXHkth2ukUtauIA9tf/giphy.gif

[MrSparkle001]

Wagner captures Russian commander as Prigozhin feud with army escalates (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/wagner-group-release-video-of-captured-russian-commander)

Sure sounds like Russia has its shit together. Russian commander was drunk and ordered his troops to fire on Wagner because he doesn't like them. At this rate Wagner might defect to Ukraine lol. But no, Prigozhin has the full support of Putin so I'm genuinely wondering what will happen.

[Toxigen]

what a complete russian failure

[Ekco]

putin bros. not like this.

but seriously. wtf is goin on over there lol

https://i.imgur.com/Wn4W1gE.png

[Duik]

Posted by evia, on EVERY post
THIS SIGNATURE HAS BEEN CENSORED FOR THINKING AND SPEAKING. FREE SPEECH IS NOT ALLOWED


A Waaaa. Try Twatter. It is the Phree Speech home now!#!

[nom_fats]

Guys literally every single news story is to distract you from hunter bidens laptop

[Jimjam]

putin bros. not like this.

but seriously. wtf is goin on over there lol

https://i.imgur.com/Wn4W1gE.png

Wagner knocking at the president’s door, it’s almost over for Ukraine … wait, thats not Zelensky’s door! :eek:

[Duik]

PoohTin = Commode door. Leader of some armed force.
Seems legit.

[MrSparkle001]

Yeah it’s coming now.

Rebel Russian mercenaries barrel towards Moscow (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wagner-head-suggests-his-mercenaries-headed-moscow-take-army-leadership-2023-06-24)

Is this the impetus Putin’s inner circle needs to turn against him?

And does Putin use nukes in the future?

This is a most interesting development.

[Trexller]

oh it's not a coup attempt

it's a "special military disagreement"

[Botten]

So the Ukraine war is coming to a screeching halt. And Trump was arrested. It is like the GOP is always getting it wrong.

[Patriam1066]

putin bros. not like this.

but seriously. wtf is goin on over there lol

https://i.imgur.com/Wn4W1gE.png

Gotta be a psyop

The hotdog vendor can’t be taking over the Ruskies

[Patriam1066]

Yeah it’s coming now.

Rebel Russian mercenaries barrel towards Moscow (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wagner-head-suggests-his-mercenaries-headed-moscow-take-army-leadership-2023-06-24)

Is this the impetus Putin’s inner circle needs to turn against him?

And does Putin use nukes in the future?

This is a most interesting development.

My thoughts for why this would be a psyop:

A way to pull out from Ukraine OR
A justification for the Russian people for why you’d use nukes

British intelligence said it was a coup attempt though. I guess we’ll see. I don’t trust anything coming out of Russia

[Nibblewitz]

Welcome to the next forever war. This time the bad guy actually has weapons of mass destruction.

[Skarne]

Gotta be a psyop

The hotdog vendor can’t be taking over the Ruskies

I was thinking the same thing. No way we’d get the straight dope through media though, so who knows.

[Patriam1066]

Had to have been fake / psyop. But why? Russia makes no sense

[arvidez]

My thoughts for why this would be a psyop:

A way to pull out from Ukraine OR
A justification for the Russian people for why you’d use nukes

British intelligence said it was a coup attempt though. I guess we’ll see. I don’t trust anything coming out of Russia

our intelligence called jan 6 protest an insurrection.

[PRogers]

our intelligence called jan 6 protest an insurrection.

Just because they were extremely stupid does not mean they didnt do it.

[arvidez]

they are stupid? nice arguement. but what if they called you a big doodoo dummy head for calling it insurrection.

[Trexller]

Belarusian president Lukashenko has reportedly negotiated a deal where Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin will relocate to Belarus.

Prigozhin halted Wagner's advance 120 miles from Moscow quote "to avoid shedding russian blood"

So the russian army and wagner pretend to fight as a false flag, the Wagner PMC relocates to Belarus, north of Ukraine where they could be ~75 miles from Kyiv within Belarusian territory.

either that or Prigozhin is gonna be found to have fallen from a roof or having drank radioactive tea

but the Wagner PMC forces are invaluable to the russian war effort, and if they kill Prigozhin they will make him a martyr.

Wagner mercenaries who "did not take part in the rebellion" are being offered contracts directly from the russian army.

This is some weird AF shit here folks.

[MrSparkle001]

It gets worse:

Plan to blow up Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant approved, situation has never been so severe before ― Chief of Defence Intelligence (https://news.yahoo.com/plan-blow-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-155626856.html)

According to the head of the Defence Intelligence, Russia's order to commit a terrorist attack on the ZNPP may have been caused by the defeat of the Russian occupation forces on the Left Bank of Dnipro ― Russia considers creation of a nuclear disaster zone a safeguard for the further advance of the defence forces of Ukraine.

At the same time, according to Budanov, there is a risk that the Russian Federation may cause a radiation leak at the ZNPP as a "preventive measure" to stop Ukraine's offensive operation and freeze the front line in its current form.

There is frustration in Ukrainian intelligence and government circles that the international community's response to the destruction of the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant dam on 6 June was so muted that this could provoke further use of "scorched Earth tactic," the newspaper notes.

and a few days ago the U.S. proposed this to NATO (https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ambassador-warns-us-resolution-pushes-nuclear-war-over-ukraine-1808577 and emphasis added by me):

The proposed resolution "views the use of any tactical nuclear weapon by the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus, or their proxies, or the destruction of a nuclear facility, dispersing radioactive contaminates into NATO territory causing significant harm to human life as an attack on NATO requiring an immediate response, including the implementation of Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty."

Now the question is, is it true? IMO it's entirely possible Putin would do this.

[MrSparkle001]

Belarusian president Lukashenko has reportedly negotiated a deal where Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin will relocate to Belarus.

Prigozhin halted Wagner's advance 120 miles from Moscow quote "to avoid shedding russian blood"

So the russian army and wagner pretend to fight as a false flag, the Wagner PMC relocates to Belarus, north of Ukraine where they could be ~75 miles from Kyiv within Belarusian territory.

either that or Prigozhin is gonna be found to have fallen from a roof or having drank radioactive tea

but the Wagner PMC forces are invaluable to the russian war effort, and if they kill Prigozhin they will make him a martyr.

Wagner mercenaries who "did not take part in the rebellion" are being offered contracts directly from the russian army.

This is some weird AF shit here folks.

and now this: Putin says leaders behind failed Wagner mutiny in Russia will be brought to justice (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/26/putin-says-russia-mutiny-organizers-will-face-justice.html)

so I don't know what to believe or what's going on. Looks like Putin has altered the deal. Wonder if that will piss Wagner off and spark a new coup attempt or if this is some ruse to maneuver leadership and assets around to strike Kyiv from Belarus like has been suggested.

[Lune]

or the destruction of a nuclear facility, dispersing radioactive contaminates into NATO territory causing significant harm to human life as an attack on NATO requiring an immediate response, including the implementation of Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty."

lol Zelensky sitting there pondering secretly blowing up a nuclear plant like "hmmmmmmm, that clause doesn't say by whom"

[Trexller]

lol Zelensky sitting there pondering secretly blowing up a nuclear plant like "hmmmmmmm, that clause doesn't say by whom"

https://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/facepalm-head.jpg

russia controls that territory, it would require air strikes for ukraine to pull a nuclear false flag.

everyone would know who did it, much like the nova kakhovka dam. it blew up on the russian controlled side, and it's like millions of tons of steel reinforced concrete, so the only way to blow it is with literal tonnes of explosives planted within the structure

and russia still blames ukraine. even tho ukraine had just started their offensive, and blowing dams is land defense 101.

but russia still blames ukraine for blowing up a dam that they couldn't access and the act of makes life worse for the ukrainian military.

Zelensky has a magical faucet that dumps money in his country as long as russians are doin shit.

Why mess that up? he should hope the russians never leave

[unsunghero]

I remember hearing how Putin blamed the mutiny on us saying we want to see Russians kill each other or something

And if I were president it would be tempting to respond with a simple, deadpan, “yes”

Like seriously? Is this guy going to clutch pearls over the fact that the rest of the world wants bad things for Russia? How naive is he pretending to be??

[Jimjam]

He’s using ingroup/outgroup psychology. He is creating a shared identity and shared enemy to ensure he is regarded favourably by his people. An in-group will let almost anything slide for its members.

[Duik]

Ukraine sure is getting owned.
Russia sure showed them.
Putin: Shake harder boy!

[Patriam1066]

I remember hearing how Putin blamed the mutiny on us saying we want to see Russians kill each other or something

And if I were president it would be tempting to respond with a simple, deadpan, “yes”

Like seriously? Is this guy going to clutch pearls over the fact that the rest of the world wants bad things for Russia? How naive is he pretending to be??

Russia invented this thing called a samovar that Persians use to make tea

Other than that I have nothing good to say about them in my many encounters over the years in oil and natural gas. That said, I’ve worked with Russians, Vietnamese, Chinese, Venezuelans, and a few others and I didn’t like them much either. Maybe it’s just petroleum engineers are dickheads everywhere (the Vietnamese were mechanical and this was when I worked for a company that designed and built ship thrusters)

[Lune]

Ukraine saying they have intelligence about Russia planning to attack the Zaporizhzhia plant, also having an interest in staying within the Western psyche as largely as possible, increasing the likelihood of Western funding:

America in the back nodding yes sarcastically:

https://i.imgur.com/SQj0xmu.gif

With respect to Wagner, America's comparative reluctance in recent decades to participate in realpolitik and spycraft in Africa and the Middle East has allowed Wagner to fill the vacuum, propping up strongmen to secure oil and gas fields, solidifying the Russian share of the market and propping up the price, enriching Putin and his oligarchs. I blame a succession of Democrats followed by a reality TV star followed by Weekend at Bernie's. The terrorists have truly won. And Putin is at risk of losing that lol

We're trying carrots while Russia and China use sticks. And we used to have one of history's most feared sticks.

[Ekco]

the fuck is going on over there...
https://i.imgur.com/OW8M8mF.png

[Duik]

the fuck is going on over there...
https://i.imgur.com/OW8M8mF.png

Its called owning each other ya gummy bear.

[unsunghero]

Lol he’s “resting” huh?

Resting at the bottom of a lake somewhere?

Would be funny if one of the Russian higher-ups came out wearing his face like Learherhead to try to pose as him. “Hello, everything is fine”

That dude dead, yo

[Landroval]

As long as you unconditionally love him, you're doing your part.

[Lune]

Per recent NYT article, Ukraine has lost something like 20-30% of some types of equipment we've provided for them during this offensive.

Seems as though Russian military doctrine, organization, and equipment works far better on the defensive than the offensive. Which is reasonable; since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, they would have had zero chance going on the offensive against NATO.

I think Ukraine would have needed air support with some degree of air superiority over the front to make this work, and that's particularly difficult vs. Russia. In some ways their AA capabilities may be superior to ours.

[Patriam1066]

Per recent NYT article, Ukraine has lost something like 20-30% of some types of equipment we've provided for them during this offensive.

Seems as though Russian military doctrine, organization, and equipment works far better on the defensive than the offensive. Which is reasonable; since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, they would have had zero chance going on the offensive against NATO.

I think Ukraine would have needed air support with some degree of air superiority over the front to make this work, and that's particularly difficult vs. Russia. In some ways their AA capabilities may be superior to ours.

Russia has been firing 60,000 artillery shells a day

We could fuck them up with US air power, but in this type of war, they’re a tough opponent. The good thing is they are governed by midgets and thieves, the bad news is the Ukrainians are also governed by midgets and thieves

Either way, long term they’ve made themselves more dependent on China, they’ve sent their intelligentsia overseas, and they’ve armed and trained their Muslims + given them seething resentment. Russia is a shit hole that will lose significant territory in the next 25-50 years

[Patriam1066]

Lol he’s “resting” huh?

Resting at the bottom of a lake somewhere?

Would be funny if one of the Russian higher-ups came out wearing his face like Learherhead to try to pose as him. “Hello, everything is fine”

That dude dead, yo

Why do all of these Russian military leaders look like vampires. I bet growing up in Russia would be frightening

[Duik]

Meanwhile, the war in Ukraine drones on.
The Russian forces (who should really slow down), continue to crash against the combined (get it?) might of farmers and their heavy farm equipment.
News reel at 8pm Norrath time.

[michaelCW]

This forum is certainly not for politics, but I sincerely do not understand how at least someone can support Russia ..

[MrSparkle001]

Me neither. Putin had even less reason to invade Ukraine than Bush II had invading Iraq. How can anyone except his own brainwashed/scared people support it?