Can any class solo the Fungi tunic camp?

[Entee]

Just curious if its possible to solo that camp that drops the Fungi tunic? If so, which classes can do it?


If not, is it possible to duo it? Which classes would be easier to duo it?

[Gustoo]

Go to the camp on an FD capable class and watch the permanent line of people pharming it and see how they do it.

[branamil]

Enchanters can regularly, extremely geared clerics and druids can with puppet strings, extremely geared monks can with consumables

[Trexller]

Y1EY2xRn1ag

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364123

[Xulia]

If I had about...6 Wort Pots? Maybe only 5...But 6 to be safe...Could probably do it on SK

[Arvan]

He asked about soloing the camp not soloing the fungi king.

Not really as you have to keep spawns down as well to lock down the ph/king.

[Arvan]

I have successfully duo'd the camp, though

[Solist]

I've been duoing it since 2010 with dozens of different class comps. Cleric/Warrior, Cleric/Ranger, Cleric/Mage, Cleric/monk etc etc across kunark and after epics came out etc.

The current meta is cleric/monk, or monk/enc, or monk/monk, or monk/sk...In order of cheese and ease. There's a lot of very bad monks and sk's able to duo it which is an indication of how easy the camp is with that comp. But I can take any 50ish cleric on the server and duo it with my quite modest monk fairly easily. That duo is just stupid.

As for soloing it, sure it's most likely able by a BiS monk. But you'd be burning maybe 12-15 wort pot charges per king. None per reaver. Pulling it solo takes patience if you're absolutely solo.

And as above you could druid cheese the pull, but you'd have to set up the entire route to return the druid from zone in every PH and every named pull. It's also not reliable.

[Pint]

The only way to reliably solo that camp is to be a very geared monk/sk and use the water beside his spawn but they made that a suspendable offense years ago

[Trelaboon]

It’s doable on a few classes. I’ve seen it done by an Enchanter and Monk on YouTube, but in the case of a Monk or maybe an SK, you’d need really good gear and a bunch of consumables/clickies. Enchanter has probably the lowest curve as far as gear goes, but most Enchanters can’t pull it off, and even more don’t even try.

[Toxigen]

One kill? Sure

Reliably farm it? No, that is for duos.

[loramin]

Reliably farm it? No, that is for duos.

Did the staff change the mobs here or something? It used to be barely doable with a trio, and most people went in with a full group because trioing was so dangerous.

It's been a couple years since I remember it being like that, but ... what changed?

[Jimjam]

IDK maybe it was the 2017 AC rebalancing? or just gearflation?

I remember regularly seeing paladins splat to fungi king before, now it is easy tankable on ranger /shrug

[Arvan]

Did the staff change the mobs here or something? It used to be barely doable with a trio, and most people went in with a full group because trioing was so dangerous.

It's been a couple years since I remember it being like that, but ... what changed?

not changed you just have to know what you are doing lol

[Toxigen]

Did the staff change the mobs here or something? It used to be barely doable with a trio, and most people went in with a full group because trioing was so dangerous.

It's been a couple years since I remember it being like that, but ... what changed?

Its a joke as a trio.

Nothing changed just git gud.

[PatChapp]

I regularely do it with enc/monk/druid trio
We keep most of the fungi clear even. Is trivially easy but kinda fun

Frogs are getting smarter though,had one hop on the exit pad and summon our druid

[loramin]

not changed you just have to know what you are doing lol

So for like 8-9 years of P99 history, no one knew what they were doing, and then just magically a year ago (or something like that) everyone figured out how to duo it? :rolleyes:

[Trexller]

So for like 8-9 years of P99 history, no one knew what they were doing, and then just magically a year ago (or something like that) everyone figured out how to duo it? :rolleyes:

sounds plausible

we're at a point in this project where virtually every player knows virtually everything

years of trial / error, every lvl 60 is well geared if not near BiS, back in the day the 6 man group offered the forgiveness of mistakes that a trio or duo won't. these days, players just know not to make those mistakes.

you're a major factor yourself with all the millions of hours you put into the wiki, which made the entirety of game info available in milliseconds.

TAKP's wiki by comparison is complete garbage, they have all their info split between a wiki and an "alla clone" and neither is even halfway complete.

so it forces me to actually go talk to NPCs of quests that i don't know by heart, or even god forbid... communicate with another player!

[Trelaboon]

So for like 8-9 years of P99 history, no one knew what they were doing, and then just magically a year ago (or something like that) everyone figured out how to duo it? :rolleyes:

I took a break in 2019 and haven’t killed him since then, but prior to that I used to trio him really easily with Monk/Rogue/Shaman. But I also duo’d it a bit before then with a Monk. I was the Shaman so I didn’t do anything particularly impressive, but somehow he still managed to do every cycle in just a couple pulls. Not sure how he did it, as I’ve never tried on my monk. I just know I was able to duo it five-ish years ago.

[Pint]

I guess people forget how many years we played kunark

[Arvan]

So for like 8-9 years of P99 history, no one knew what they were doing, and then just magically a year ago (or something like that) everyone figured out how to duo it? :rolleyes:

I've been duoing it for like the past like 3-4 years? I've been on p99 since about 2013. They changed the pathing of the ph/king - made it harder to solo pull but it is still possible again if you know what you are doing. Nothing else changed.

[Snaggles]

I’ve prob spent 30hrs in that camp on p99 and never have seen the king. So personally, I’d rather do anything solo and just buy one.

[Castle2.0]

But could a shaman do it?

[Fammaden]

Anything that Loramin isn't personally benefiting from is unclassic and should be nerfed.

[Valakut]

when you spend more on wort pots than the tunic is worth

[Pint]

I’ve prob spent 30hrs in that camp on p99 and never have seen the king. So personally, I’d rather do anything solo and just buy one.

But if you spend hundreds of hours you'll see 3 kings in a row with 3 tunics, that's the beauty of rng

[Toxigen]

beads and bio orb op

[branamil]

But if you spend hundreds of hours you'll see 3 kings in a row with 3 tunics, that's the beauty of rng

At this point we shouldn't take for granted that EQ's "random" engine is really random. It's probably flawed like all of its other programming.

[loramin]

Anything that Loramin isn't personally benefiting from is unclassic and should be nerfed.

What did this have to do with classic? I was asking on what changed on P99.

I guess, based on the claims here at least, people were duoing it before? That just seems strange to me, because I did a lot of groups there on Blue (most of my Torpor was paid for with fungi plat, plus I got one more after getting Torpor), and only once did we ever run into a trio. Never a duo ... and IIRC that trio gave up not long after we arrived (although it's literally been years now).

I guess all that changed was:

They changed the pathing of the ph/king - made it harder to solo pull but it is still possible again if you know what you are doing. Nothing else changed.

... but I would have thought it would make duoing harder, not easier.

[loramin]

beads and bio orb op

Actually, that makes a lot of sense, because I think a lot (maybe all? again it's been years) of my fungi camp time was when Blue was Kunark-locked. I'd need to dig through my logs to be sure, but maybe the change was just "Blue got Velious."

[pasi]

It was a duo camp throughout most of Kunark as invis-pulling worked quite a bit differently.

[Solist]

So for like 8-9 years of P99 history, no one knew what they were doing, and then just magically a year ago (or something like that) everyone figured out how to duo it? :rolleyes:

I was duoing it 12 years ago, god you are thick as bricks.

[Solist]

It was a duo camp throughout most of Kunark as invis-pulling worked quite a bit differently.
TLDR old blue server nonsense
This man knows. It was a trivial camp to do post epics with mage pet. Zero effort.

It was like a step short of trivial to do pre epics with a full cobalt warrior like oly who could invis me with legs. Long fight but it was impossible for him to die in the 20 second cast time for donals, as long as I was out of line of sight of king for those shitty tab stun spells.

Before we had cobalt legs and stuff, it was a full group or even 10-12 man affair when we were farming staffs early kunark. Plenty of screenshots of those days laying around.

Put it this way, I still have a few accounts of mules full of fungis I've forgotten the passwords to as the camp was so simple and forgettable and we had unlimited plat. When the price went under 110k on blue, it 'wasn't worth farming them' anymore. That was like 2012 mid or thereabouts.

Relevent to today 2023 P1999
It's trivial again now with velious AC. A very modestly AC focus geared monk , mostly EC items and a 60 cleric can trivialise the camp. It takes no effort or skill. Fungi, tstaff, pantherskin, a bag full of probes, CoF etc. The usual twink monk nonsense.

A 1500ac monk makes a mockery of the whole camp. Levelled my cleric from 50 to 60 there almost exclusively with at least 25 different people playing the cleric at various times. Took under 1 minute to explain how to do the job each time. Only Slopster and one other guy when totally stoned fucked it up reliably. There is no combo currently that is anywhere near as trivial as monk/cle. Two near BiS monks is close but you can still RNG a cycle with some bad luck on a double illis shaman, max adept, and a king up and lose an hour. Good geared warrior is also solid there as war/monk, just gotta bind up to 70/breastplate to 100, and camp until pathers split each cycle.

[Lune]

God I miss invis pulling and even monk sneak pulling. Was such fun emergent gameplay if a little trivial.

Dotting something as an SK and then using your FD, circlet, and/or hide to single it through an entire zone was peak OP.

Also made it very easy to train groups or individuals you hated with little to no evidence, which I never did, GM's.

[Jimjam]

God I miss invis pulling and even monk sneak pulling. Was such fun emergent gameplay if a little trivial.

Dotting something as an SK and then using your FD, circlet, and/or hide to single it through an entire zone was peak OP.

Also made it very easy to train groups or individuals you hated with little to no evidence, which I never did, GM's.

Infinite z access on taunt/beg was good with this. Could pull knight down to basement from tower in unrest and all sorts of other crazy fun :D

[Solist]

There is still a nice bug you can abuse from guardian water near NG camp to crit pac king through floor and only he pops up, other stuff paths the long way & trains up so you gotta get a crit, get king pulled off you, and cycle camp.

But the riot alt iksar monk in negative AC earrings brigade cry and petition it every day. They use it to pull plane of hate, warp doze wurms through doors, pull HoT, etc regularly though.

[Infectious]

God I miss invis pulling and even monk sneak pulling. Was such fun emergent gameplay if a little trivial.

Dotting something as an SK and then using your FD, circlet, and/or hide to single it through an entire zone was peak OP.

Also made it very easy to train groups or individuals you hated with little to no evidence, which I never did, GM's.

Monk sneak pulling was fucking legit.

[loramin]

I was duoing it 12 years ago, god you are thick as bricks.

Dude, chill.

P99 has had a long history. You can remember a time when weird bugs let everyone duo the camp, and I can remember a time when it was mainly a group camp ... and we can both be right.

[getsome]

April- May, 2011 - Daltheb level 60 monk (Fastest Jav east of the Mississippi ) and I a donals cleric would duo king regularly. I am pretty sure we pulled to safe rock at the time. Using a bit of water los and monk pulling abilities cerca p99 2011.

During early kunark you were forced to fight in his room to hold the camp if you were contested for the camp. Once the staffs stopped dropping more relaxed rules of keeping ph dead by camping in tube rooms became meta.

[Toxigen]

if only we could consult the wiki to learn how to duo king

[pasi]

God I miss invis pulling and even monk sneak pulling. Was such fun emergent gameplay if a little trivial.

Dotting something as an SK and then using your FD, circlet, and/or hide to single it through an entire zone was peak OP.

Also made it very easy to train groups or individuals you hated with little to no evidence, which I never did, GM's.

I haven't touched my p99 necro in about 11 years, but the FD+COS trick worked on live forever and probably still does to this day.

Aggro something -> FD -> stand and COS at the same time. Mobs that see-invis would re-aggro; whereas, mobs without see-invis do not re-aggro you unless you drop invis. If something is dotted, it would re-aggro when the dot ticks.

Infinite z access on taunt/beg was good with this. Could pull knight down to basement from tower in unrest and all sorts of other crazy fun :D

The definitive method to skip hours of Vex Thal trash before they added leashes. Ok for Reparm pulling too.


Whats the King meta now, even? Rock or the safe tunnel? Latter seems like you'd have to clear out adepts who want to CHeal their boy through the walls.

[Toxigen]

Whats the King meta now, even? Rock or the safe tunnel? Latter seems like you'd have to clear out adepts who want to CHeal their boy through the walls.

safe tunnel / brain room

[Trexller]

I haven't touched my p99 necro in about 11 years, but the FD+COS trick worked on live forever and probably still does to this day.

Aggro something -> FD -> stand and COS at the same time. Mobs that see-invis would re-aggro; whereas, mobs without see-invis do not re-aggro you unless you drop invis. If something is dotted, it would re-aggro when the dot ticks.

they patched that out like 11 years ago

[pasi]

Well, shit.

I last played at the end of The Buried Sea and start of Secrets of Faydwer. SKs and Necros had a good run for 13 years of FD + COS pulling.

[Trexller]

Well, shit.

I last played at the end of The Buried Sea and start of Secrets of Faydwer. SKs and Necros had a good run for 13 years of FD + COS pulling.

oh i meant the p99 FD/CoS pulling, dunno about live

[Spit]

Well, shit.

I last played at the end of The Buried Sea and start of Secrets of Faydwer. SKs and Necros had a good run for 13 years of FD + COS pulling.

This seemed to be working a decent chunk into Live.

http://eqshadowknight.net/archive/index.php/t-2781.html

[Videri]

Just curious if its possible to solo that camp that drops the Fungi tunic? If so, which classes can do it?


If not, is it possible to duo it? Which classes would be easier to duo it?

OP, why do you want to solo it? Share with fewer people? I just think it's unrealistic. The way to get fungis is either camp it with 3-4 people over and over, or farm plat and buy one.

And you gotta play your best, most useful level 60 dungeon-crawler. Not a ranger, not a druid, not a wizard...one of the other ones. Monk, cleric, enchanter, mage with COTH. And you gotta group with some top-notch level 60 characters.

[Solist]

Whats the King meta now, even? Rock or the safe tunnel? Latter seems like you'd have to clear out adepts who want to CHeal their boy through the walls.

Kill two pathers. Pull king to a cleric with a jav. Fd. Stand after 2 da’s and auto attack king until it dies. Ch as appropriate.

Any EC geared monk and naked cleric can do it. Add better gear and it trivializes it to the point you don’t even clear the panthers. Pacify, pull king, kill, repacif and med, camp cleric/fd monk and repeat.

Or kill 2 pathers, pull king to a monk or sk in water to clean tag. Stand after 26 seconds absolute maximum but generally 18ish for reset. Kill king with two melee in mostly tov gear. Fd and repeat.

There ain’t a lot to say about it. Fungis should be like 10k they’re so trivial to farm but people just don’t get off their arse and do it.

[Toxigen]

Kill two pathers. Pull king to a cleric with a jav. Fd. Stand after 2 da’s and auto attack king until it dies. Ch as appropriate.

Any EC geared monk and naked cleric can do it. Add better gear and it trivializes it to the point you don’t even clear the panthers. Pacify, pull king, kill, repacif and med, camp cleric/fd monk and repeat.

Or kill 2 pathers, pull king to a monk or sk in water to clean tag. Stand after 26 seconds absolute maximum but generally 18ish for reset. Kill king with two melee in mostly tov gear. Fd and repeat.

There ain’t a lot to say about it. Fungis should be like 10k they’re so trivial to farm but people just don’t get off their arse and do it.

I think its that most players don't understand how easy it is. Theres a small percent of the currently playing pop that can do this routinely.

[mycoolrausch]

Dude, chill.

P99 has had a long history. You can remember a time when weird bugs let everyone duo the camp, and I can remember a time when it was mainly a group camp ... and we can both be right.

it was a group camp because p99 blue used to have a higher ratio of newer and less experienced players, but this was a separate population than the hardcore players who've been around since 2010. I know, i was one of them. I used to routinely join full group pugs of fellow newbs at the camp up through 2018 or so. They would always annoy the duo/trio farmers.

Seb in general had active pickup groups running at most of the camps during most hours of the day up until green launch or so.

The more casual, still leveling base is what i miss most about old blue.

[Jimjam]

I haven't touched my p99 necro in about 11 years, but the FD+COS trick worked on live forever and probably still does to this day.

Aggro something -> FD -> stand and COS at the same time. Mobs that see-invis would re-aggro; whereas, mobs without see-invis do not re-aggro you unless you drop invis. If something is dotted, it would re-aggro when the dot ticks.



The definitive method to skip hours of Vex Thal trash before they added leashes. Ok for Reparm pulling too.


Whats the King meta now, even? Rock or the safe tunnel? Latter seems like you'd have to clear out adepts who want to CHeal their boy through the walls.

Interesting you say infinite z axis taunt was a thing in VT. That means having it removed here is an UNCLASSIC nerf! :o

[magnetaress]

More like most p99ers solo. So don't camp anything out of the way with a potentially rough CR.

Also ya ppl don't know how to memblur paralyzing earth and paci all these years. Or FD pull. :o

[pasi]

Interesting you say infinite z axis taunt was a thing in VT. That means having it removed here is an UNCLASSIC nerf! :o

Sometime mid POP, they added vertical leashes to VT mobs. So you could still pull everything to the first floor, but the mob would warp back to spawn point after a few seconds. The combination of taunt ignoring Z-axis and the horse slide trick made it easy to pull anything to zone in. It still functioned in 2007ish when we were farming human illusions, but the goal then was to get the mob dotted and down to 97% where it would summon you up.

I don't think I've ever seen Reparm in PoFire pulled without abusing Z-axis taunt. Someone 3 floors below him spam taunt until it succeeded and then he came solo.

[aazron]

Could a Bard/Shammy duo this?

[Videri]

Could a Bard/Shammy duo this?

I don't think so. The pull requires FD.

Also, the shaman mushrooms will try to Gate once you get them past 40% hp (assuming they're far from their spawn point, which they are). And level 55+ mobs are immune to stun. So put that together and you get "level 55-56 shaman mushrooms will Gate to their spawn point and train you unless you have Rapture" and voila, most duos can't duo it.

People who are curious about Fungi should go down there with a full group of 6 (aka too many people) and do the camp for a few hours and get your feet wet. Find out how consistently camped it is, see how other people pull it, see how tough those fucking mushrooms are, and see how awesome it is to wipe down there and decide to make a level 1 Halfling rogue and level it up to 5 and get it a Seb key so you can drag your corpses, etc etc. And maybe see how awesome it is to have no tunics drop for 6 hours. Or how awesome it is to have ONE tunic drop and you lose the roll and the group breaks up and it's 3am.

[aazron]

Wow! Thanks for the heads up. Great reply.=)

[Videri]

sry, i was feeling grumpy/spicy

[Liia]

I might aswell respond since I soloed it. But for those wondering, it is not sustainable on the long run as an enchanter solo.The luck needed to pull the King is too high. While you can clear PHs and never die pretty much. The fact you need to zone every botched pulls, run back down, have your camp contested everytime you need to zone. Then in alot of scenario youll likely need to meditate a bit, then realize you need to clear the repops again, med more. While its a fun challenge, I recommend having a partner.

Also, dont try the Chardok method of suiciding the PH. I have tried tons of ways and well. The conclusion is that youll end dead or have capped out without the PH being dead too often.

[Liia]

Could a Bard/Shammy duo this?

It is certainly doable. To be honnest, you probably just need the right way to clear camp. I would imagine in alot of situation it would end up with the bard pulling then dumping the King/PH on shaman then zoning and from there its mostly a solo kill while the bard gets back to camp as fast as possible. There shouldnt be a situation where you need to kill those patrolling adepts/priest shroom that may gate on you. If you do I think you can still kill those but gonna be a slow killing while bard is sieving the hell of the healer. Similar situation when you get a healer in the exit cubby but at least that one would never gate on you.

Thing said. I dont think its ideal but very doable but the shaman kinda need to be beefy. Surviving the King isnt always possible when you dont get the slow needed. And I would imagine theres many scenario where the pull will be botched and need to let it reset and bard comes back from zone in.