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Origen
07-27-2023, 03:58 PM
Jimmy Carter is the only living former (or current) president that I wouldn't like to see tried for war crimes, but there's a lot of conservatives here in Georgia that still hate his guts because of energy regulation
The reality is, you can't actually vote these people into retirement. Look at when Obama beat Romney, or Bush jr. Beat Kerry.
You'd assume losing the vote means that's it for them, but nope, the very next administrative flip installs these guys right back into power, whether it's an elected position or not is irrelevant; they are our ruling class from birth; they just get weaseled in somewhere else till they die while they sockpuppet oppositional roles of our assigned political contrivances and grievances.
So when was the last working class Joe installed into the presidency?
By the way you seem to be making a statement that the entire system is rigged and I doubt anyone here would disagree with you on that.
Trexller
07-27-2023, 05:24 PM
Jimmy Carter is the only living former (or current) president that I wouldn't like to see tried for war crimes, but there's a lot of conservatives here in Georgia that still hate his guts because of energy regulation
fuck Carter
dipshit candy ass coward peanut farmer gave away the most important piece of real estate in the entire world.
then if that wasn't enough of a knife in the nation's back
this tool bag couldn't negotiate his way through a mcdonalds order and caused the worse energy crisis the nation has ever known.
democrats are still pissed that they lost the war they waged to keep black people in chains, and seek to destroy the nation out of some, "if I can't have it, nobody can" mentality.
of course you like Carter, he made the nation weaker.
Nobody said they liked Carter lol... nice histrionics. Seemed like a nice dude, not the greatest president. Not wanting him tried for warcrimes isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
Only reason he was brought up is because he had humble origins.
Trexller
07-27-2023, 05:45 PM
Only reason he was brought up is because he had humble origins.
and because of this he had no idea of the forces he was fucking with
"feel good politics" is not a productive platform
might makes right, you can't teach that in a classroom
knowledge of the inner workings of macro economics, global governance and the unwritten rules of the world can't be taught in some civics or poli sci class, this knowledge is passed generationally.
Landroval
07-27-2023, 05:50 PM
So, continue voting for them 12 years past their expiration date?
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 05:53 PM
So, continue voting for them 12 years past their expiration date?
Obama was young.
Origen
07-27-2023, 06:00 PM
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unsunghero
07-27-2023, 06:07 PM
Lol homeless drug war feud over who gets to sell fentanyl in the area causing targeted attack explosions
Comedy. Maybe we’ll get to see them square off in 2 separate armies holding their makeshift shanks and bags of human shit and have a melee turf war
Landroval
07-27-2023, 06:10 PM
might makes right, you can't teach that in a classroom.
That's not necessarily true. History is rife with examples of gathering the outliers dispossessed of self-determination by might, to overpower might.
It's kind of standardized at this point.
unsunghero
07-27-2023, 06:20 PM
Lol homeless drug war feud over who gets to sell fentanyl in the area causing targeted attack explosions
Comedy. Maybe we’ll get to see them square off in 2 separate armies holding their makeshift shanks and bags of human shit and have a melee turf war
Don’t worry, “WE WILL REBUILD!”
Wonder what construction site those power tools were stolen from
That’s cute the homeless are putting a fence around their compound built illegally on state property near a hospital. I wonder how the city would react if a homeowner decided to put a fence up somewhere, I wonder how the zoning board would respond to that
Homeless crazy drug addicts getting God Tier Rights FTW
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 06:29 PM
Homeless crazy drug addicts getting God Tier Rights FTW
It would be cruel or unusual to not allow them to be on public property if they have nowhere else to go.
Homesteaded
07-27-2023, 06:32 PM
Whoa, whoa, pump the brakes
Hateful Honesteaded is... Unitarian?
No honest poster here thinks I’m hateful. Thoughts and prayers
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 06:41 PM
Is this second indictment again?
unsunghero
07-27-2023, 06:58 PM
It would be cruel or unusual to not allow them to be on public property if they have nowhere else to go.
Cruel and unusual is going to be the burning death they experience as their “compound” not up to code gets lit on fire again by rivals angry over the fact they are selling fentanyl to their customers
Let’s hope it doesn’t spread to the nearby hospital where functional people who can actually contribute to society and their community are recovering
Ooloo
07-27-2023, 07:06 PM
You can "be on" public property without building a homeless junkie castle made out of bouncy houses
Michael Shellenberger's book San Fransicko is excellent on this topic. Tldr; the only real solution is forcible treatment. People can sometimes, but rarely, get themselves off heroin. Fentanyl is 50x as potent, it's hopeless and letting them die on the street is not compassion.
unsunghero
07-27-2023, 07:10 PM
You can "be on" public property without building a homeless junkie castle made out of bouncy houses
If a homeowner were to build that on their property they would have the zoning board up their ass looking to fine them for some free money for the city so fast it would make their head spin
And people wonder why the middle class is shrinking in this country…
Hilarious listening to endless bitching about San Francisco when the vast majority of the US's true shitholes are in the deep South. No perspective whatsoever. Even being poor in a liberal shithole is miles better than being poor in a red state shithole, and this is borne out by statistics. People in New York and California live 6 years longer on average than people in Mississippi and Louisiana.
Posted from Bellevue, Washington :) Even our homeless are fucking fit, I thought I saw Tarzan climb out of the forest the other day. Literally wearing a loincloth. PS just moved from South Carolina and there were a lot more homeless there than I've seen around here.
Trexller
07-27-2023, 07:27 PM
really?
your argument is our homeless are better than your homeless?
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unsunghero
07-27-2023, 07:36 PM
Hilarious listening to endless bitching about San Francisco when the vast majority of the US's true shitholes are in the deep South. No perspective whatsoever. Even being poor in a liberal shithole is miles better than being poor in a red state shithole, and this is borne out by statistics. People in New York and California live 6 years longer on average than people in Mississippi and Louisiana.
Posted from Bellevue, Washington :) Even our homeless are fucking fit, I thought I saw Tarzan climb out of the forest the other day. Literally wearing a loincloth. PS just moved from South Carolina and there were a lot more homeless there than I've seen around here.
Yea I could see this
The poor in the south have the worst death rates I’m assuming largely due to a super terrible diet, nutritionally
Ooloo
07-27-2023, 08:15 PM
Hilarious listening to endless bitching about San Francisco when the vast majority of the US's true shitholes are in the deep South. No perspective whatsoever. Even being poor in a liberal shithole is miles better than being poor in a red state shithole, and this is borne out by statistics. People in New York and California live 6 years longer on average than people in Mississippi and Louisiana.
Posted from Bellevue, Washington :) Even our homeless are fucking fit, I thought I saw Tarzan climb out of the forest the other day. Literally wearing a loincloth. PS just moved from South Carolina and there were a lot more homeless there than I've seen around here.
Not all homeless are created equal. Also homeless are often not counted after they're dead, ya know? So yeah, maybe the south has more *alive* homeless people. I think you're just playing fast and loose with statistics.
They're all human beings and they all deserve compassion. It's more a question of whether the elected leaders are doing anything to stop it. The south generally enforces drug laws, the west coast apparently considers it compassionate to let people die of drug overdoses on the street. I don't see any walgreens in alabama putting padlocks on their icecream freezers.
Not that it's a competition of course, but you're trying to make it one.
Yea I could see this
The poor in the south have the worst death rates I’m assuming largely due to a super terrible diet, nutritionally
It's mostly due to higher rates of poverty, lots of black people (even higher poverty, poor access to good healthcare rich or poor, small genetic predisposition to certain conditions), poor healthcare, and lower levels of activity. South Carolina had like a handful of cardiologists and endocrinologists. What doctor wants to live in the fucking South? The vast majority of even my PT class evacuated after graduation.
Most blue states tend to have better hospitals than most red states and better access to care because they expanded Medicaid after the ACA. Comes at a cost though because you can't afford to live in most liberal cities unless you're at least somewhat successful.
Even the shittiest lowest end retail jobs are paying $22+ an hour here and that's still far from what it takes to live.
The south generally enforces drug laws, the west coast apparently considers it compassionate to let people die of drug overdoses on the street.
False, the PNW tries to practice harm reduction. My wife was in line behind a heroin addict picking up his free needles at the pharmacy the other day. And the person in front of him was like "I'd like to buy all the Sudafed you're allowed to sell me" lmao
Botten
07-27-2023, 08:20 PM
Not all homeless are created equal. Also homeless are often not counted after they're dead, ya know? So yeah, maybe the south has more *alive* homeless people. ...
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Ooloo
07-27-2023, 08:21 PM
It's mostly due to higher rates of poverty, lots of black people (even higher poverty, poor access to good healthcare rich or poor, small genetic predisposition to certain conditions), poor healthcare, and lower levels of activity. South Carolina had like a handful of cardiologists and endocrinologists. What doctor wants to live in the fucking South? The vast majority of even my PT class evacuated after graduation.
Most blue states tend to have better hospitals than most red states and better access to care because they expanded Medicaid after the ACA. Comes at a cost though because you can't afford to live in most liberal cities unless you're at least somewhat successful.
Even the shittiest lowest end retail jobs are paying $22+ an hour here and that's still far from what it takes to live.
You're almost there. Why are low end retail jobs paying 22 bucks an hour?
You're almost there. Why are low end retail jobs paying 22 bucks an hour?
Because it's a tight labor market, a very HCOL area, an extremely strong tech-fueled local economy, and they literally can't find employees for less.
Technically the McDonaldses in SC that were paying $10/hr were paying similarly relative to the COL than the $22/hr here tho
unsunghero
07-27-2023, 08:38 PM
It's mostly due to higher rates of poverty, lots of black people (even higher poverty, poor access to good healthcare rich or poor, small genetic predisposition to certain conditions), poor healthcare, and lower levels of activity. South Carolina had like a handful of cardiologists and endocrinologists. What doctor wants to live in the fucking South? The vast majority of even my PT class evacuated after graduation.
Most blue states tend to have better hospitals than most red states and better access to care because they expanded Medicaid after the ACA. Comes at a cost though because you can't afford to live in most liberal cities unless you're at least somewhat successful.
Even the shittiest lowest end retail jobs are paying $22+ an hour here and that's still far from what it takes to live.
False, the PNW tries to practice harm reduction. My wife was in line behind a heroin addict picking up his free needles at the pharmacy the other day. And the person in front of him was like "I'd like to buy all the Sudafed you're allowed to sell me" lmao
I dunno, I think better healthcare is def helpful but wouldn’t even be as necessary if the lifestyle were better. I hear rates of obesity are off the charts in the south and that’s not only just due to lower activity but a deep fried diet
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 08:38 PM
Bellevue/Medina is a poor example of the metro area.
Landroval
07-27-2023, 08:39 PM
What are the Poor "poor" in? I mean...I've been "poor" down to the point of absolute destitution living in a tent several times. So, when "the poor" approach me for pocket change, what am I "rich" "in" that they aren't? Since, in the premise of asking me for shit there's an acknowledgement that I'm in possession of a quality that they're lacking.
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 08:40 PM
False, the PNW tries to practice harm reduction.
9th Circus, as the radio host I hated for no reason called it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_v._Boise
https://www.opb.org/article/2023/07/06/grants-pass-homeless-camping-lawsuit-federal-cruel-and-unusual-punishment/
Origen
07-27-2023, 08:41 PM
Watching these liberals and conservatives discuss poverty in the south, looks like an uphill battle to me
No honest poster here thinks I’m hateful. Thoughts and prayersLie to yourself if you want, God knows you are a bigot and must repent
I dunno, I think better healthcare is def helpful but wouldn’t even be as necessary if the lifestyle were better. I hear rates of obesity are off the charts in the south and that’s not only just due to lower activity but a deep fried diet
Yea I meant to include that as well. They don't call it the Stroke Belt for nothing.
No honest poster here thinks I’m hateful. Thoughts and prayers
There's a No True Scotsman trap if I ever saw one
Origen
07-27-2023, 08:50 PM
Careful you'll summon Debate Club Ooloo with talk like that, we love him and cannot do that to his blood pressure
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 08:54 PM
Not all homeless are created equal. Also homeless are often not counted after they're dead, ya know? So yeah, maybe the south has more *alive* homeless people. I think you're just playing fast and loose with statistics.
Nor are local death statistics exactly accurate if you have a large influx of population in the category into the area.
Ooloo
07-27-2023, 08:54 PM
Careful you'll summon Debate Club Ooloo with talk like that, we love him and cannot do that to his blood pressure
Lol, okay for once you legit made me laugh cause I was immediately about to respond to that no true scottsman bullshit. Fair play.
That's not what that term means. You use that after somebody has repeatedly refined down a definition over and over in the face of abundant counter evidence. Basically all he said was that people who think he's hateful are dishonest, which is an opinion, and I agree with him.
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 08:58 PM
small genetic predisposition to certain conditions
biotruths :rolleyes:
Ooloo
07-27-2023, 09:02 PM
Nor are local death statistics exactly accurate if you have a large influx of population in the category into the area.
I think an important question is how long has somebody been homeless, and how old are they?
Let's say alabama currently has 1000 currently-alive homeless people who have been homeless for three decades. Let's say california currently only has 100 currently-alive homeless people, but one dies every day. Which state has the worse homeless problem?
Also I'll reiterate that I haven't heard of any walgreens locking up their icecream freezers in alabama.
Origen
07-27-2023, 09:03 PM
Lol, okay for once you legit made me laugh cause I was immediately about to respond to that no true scottsman bullshit. Fair play."No true Scotsman" is a white supremacist term
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aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 09:09 PM
I think an important question is how long has somebody been homeless, and how old are they?
Let's say alabama currently has 1000 currently-alive homeless people who have been homeless for three decades. Let's say california currently only has 100 currently-alive homeless people, but one dies every day. Which state has the worse homeless problem?
Also I'll reiterate that I haven't heard of any walgreens locking up their icecream freezers in alabama.
Whatever number you have, if you add a bunch of new folks, the rate goes down until they, too, meet the Reaper and are similarly replaced.
It's worse than you hicks think.
Ooloo
07-27-2023, 09:11 PM
It's worse than you hicks think.
I live in Boston
Origen
07-27-2023, 09:13 PM
I once drove from Boston to Atlanta because I got a free car out of it and literally the first gas station I stopped in to take a leak in on the New Jersey Turnpike I saw a fight about who called who a f*g, good times
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 09:16 PM
I live in Boston
Big upgrade from Longview and upstate New York. 👍
aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 09:19 PM
Ah geez, the only decent place to live in Alabama is Mobile?
The rest is all fucking landlocked hellscape?
PRogers
07-27-2023, 09:23 PM
I believe an "Oof" is in order.
Oof.
Origen
07-27-2023, 09:46 PM
Nah, Huntsville is nice. Montgomery is alright too. Dunno about other places, but Alabama is often overlooked if you can wrap your head around the south. It isn't that hard, but I'm privileged so easy to say that.
Trexller
07-27-2023, 09:55 PM
I'm privileged so easy to say that.
lol white people
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Landroval
07-27-2023, 10:03 PM
What are the Poor "poor" in? I mean...I've been "poor" down to the point of absolute destitution living in a tent several times. So, when "the poor" approach me for pocket change, what am I "rich" "in" that they aren't? Since, in the premise of asking me for shit there's an acknowledgement that I'm in possession of a quality that they're lacking.
Landroval
07-27-2023, 10:09 PM
Decision making?!?
Landroval
07-27-2023, 10:11 PM
The will to do better for one's self?
Landroval
07-27-2023, 10:12 PM
Heroin, Fentanyl, and toilet paper?
Landroval
07-27-2023, 10:13 PM
Self respect?
Trexller
07-27-2023, 10:18 PM
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Those poor, poor parents. Moving their children to a safer state so they can mutilate them.
You just can't make this stuff up. Sick, twisted, evil Liberals. :mad:
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aussenseiter
07-27-2023, 11:11 PM
Those poor, poor parents. Moving their children to a safer state so they can mutilate them.
You just can't make this stuff up. Sick, twisted, evil Liberals. :mad:
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Holy based blackerino, a MERCH discount? 🤯
Fortunately for them, I hear Venice Beach has nice weather. :D
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unsunghero
07-27-2023, 11:44 PM
Holy based blackerino, a MERCH discount?
He gotta make money some way because no way in hell he is keepin his day job talking shit about trans people, even if he is a cop
Now what’s fucked up is if this trans person gets surgeries, then makes a video expressing regret, and this guy posts that, that’s apparently grounds for a YouTube ban
Like no no, you are not allowed to show the possible negatives of this stuff. We want to force a completely one sided narrative about medical procedures, and that’s somehow ethical
Botten
07-27-2023, 11:48 PM
He gotta make money some way because no way in hell he is keepin his day job talking shit about trans people, even if he is a cop
Now what’s fucked up is if this trans person gets surgeries, then makes a video expressing regret, and this guy posts that, that’s apparently grounds for a YouTube ban
Like no no, you are not allowed to show the possible negatives of this stuff. We want to force a completely one sided narrative about medical procedures, and that’s somehow ethical
I suspect they don't want watchers to push and already depressed content maker to consider hurting themselves. Nor do they want to cater to that type of cry for help trend.
unsunghero
07-27-2023, 11:57 PM
I suspect they don't want watchers to push and already depressed content maker to consider hurting themselves. Nor do they want to cater to that type of cry for help trend.
It’s bordering on extremely shady ground though
It would be like if I was a surgeon doing some plastic surgery procedure, and I put out all these surveys and studies showing all these satisfied clients
But then I also came to YouTube and said “Hey, some of my clients are going to be really dissatisfied with this procedure in the long run. They are going to go on YouTube and talk about complications, or how it didn’t fix their psychological issues, all sorts of reasons why they are dissatisfied. I would like the admin of YouTube to consider any discontent as medical misinformation or harassment or whatever you want to use as grounds to shut that down. I ONLY want there to be videos of satisfied customers, ok?”
And YouTube is like sure, sounds fair, no problem fam
(This would be if Candace Owens is telling the truth, that YouTube banned her for re-posting people unhappy with medical affirmation as if this was like covid misinformation or something)
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 12:02 AM
I suspect they don't want watchers to push and already depressed content maker to consider hurting themselves. Nor do they want to cater to that type of cry for help trend.
Content creator = guy who talks over videos
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 12:03 AM
Content creator = guy who talks over videos
Yes we know you hate YouTubers ;)
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 12:08 AM
Yes we know you hate YouTubers ;)
Where is the horse and the rider? :o
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 12:08 AM
To play devil’s advocate though, YouTube has been very accommodating regarding allowing conservatives to still have a platform there to talk shit about provocative shit about the gov’t, things like black culture’s impact on crime, even negatives about trans. They really only come down on content creators who continue to insult particular trans people like Dylan
Like Matt Walsh probably could have continued to misgender Dylan forever with no consequence, it wasn’t until he made multiple videos insulting Dylan with pretty harsh words that he finally got banned (temp) for harassment
This is why I will come clean and say I actually feel comfortable with paying for ad free YouTube. I stream all my music on there, and watch a shitload of videos. I have been relatively satisfied with them as a company, so as of now I don’t have any personal issues with giving them my business
Origen
07-28-2023, 07:12 AM
lol white people
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Origen
07-28-2023, 07:17 AM
That reads like "I acknowledge Youtube allows hate speech, that's why I am comfortable giving them my money."
Google's goal is to sow division in the class war while making a profit, just like a bunch of other organizations that do the bidding of the billionaires.
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 08:40 AM
Criticizing trans people is not hate speech.
Origen
07-28-2023, 09:19 AM
The way I see conservatives doing it online sure is, you're a great example of how normalized hate speech is among online conservatives.
Origen
07-28-2023, 09:24 AM
I'm not gonna argue about that crap all day, if you are wondering if given words are hate speech, ask if you'd stand on a soap box and say it in a crowd of the people you are referring to.
There's a reason you reactionary types are wise enough to limit your real thoughts to the internet, where your anonymity protects you.
Toxigen
07-28-2023, 09:47 AM
Questioning the mental health of someone who wants to cut their dick off isn't hate speech lol.
Origen
07-28-2023, 09:53 AM
You're not a psychologist, you're the assistant manager of a Dollar Tree, Toxigen. You literally endorse fascism because you are so terrified of black people, so, I'm just gonna ignore your shallow thoughts on trans people
Landroval
07-28-2023, 09:56 AM
I suspect they don't want watchers to push and already depressed content maker to consider hurting themselves. Nor do they want to cater to that type of cry for help trend.
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary “attack the messenger” ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviants”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues
12. Enigmas that have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues
18. Emotionalize, antagonize, and goad opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent.
Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.
22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 09:59 AM
You're not a psychologist, you're the assistant manager of a Dollar Tree, Toxigen. You literally endorse fascism because you are so terrified of black people, so, I'm just gonna ignore your shallow thoughts on trans people
It requires a retarded girl pursuing 7 years of sociology classes, which are just a bunch of retards agreeing with each other, to know the proper stance on chopping ones dick off.
Oh no, Emile Durkheim warned us about this!
Origen
07-28-2023, 10:01 AM
People were doing it long before there were sociology majors and medicines to make it safer, but don't let that fact interrupt your disgust reaction, reactionary
Landroval
07-28-2023, 10:05 AM
People were doing it long before there were sociology majors and medicines to make it safer, but don't let that fact interrupt your disgust reaction, reactionary
Yeah the Romans were doing it to their house slaves to make sure they couldn't fuck their wives while they were out warring
Landroval
07-28-2023, 10:09 AM
The human castration in the Middle Ages was practiced in a few people: two or three blocked the victim while another tied the scrotal peduncle with a gut or a thin and resistant thread, blocking the bleed- ing, and then cutting the testicles and the vas deferens with a sharp blade, generating a relatively minor wound.
For instance, Murray notes that in the medieval period, castration was one of the most common punishments meted out to men found guilty of committing homosexual acts. During such punishments the testicles of the offender might be burned or tossed into the crowd to further their humiliation.
Origen
07-28-2023, 10:17 AM
Why don't you skip the bullshit and just post trans surgery videos? Modern medicine does it a lot better than a Roman hackjob
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aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 10:22 AM
The way I see conservatives doing it online sure is, you're a great example of how normalized hate speech is among online conservatives.
He's already surrendered in part, no?
Landroval
07-28-2023, 10:33 AM
Why don't you skip the bullshit and just post trans surgery videos? Modern medicine does it a lot better than a Roman hackjob
You mentioned how it had a place in the past. I elucidated upon what that place was, and it wasn't pleasant.
Origen
07-28-2023, 10:44 AM
He's already surrendered in part, no?Hyper-arrogance has no room for surrender. Unless it's to the right kind of billionaire, then they show their bellies and do what they're told.
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 11:00 AM
Hyper-arrogance has no room for surrender. Unless it's to the right kind of billionaire, then they show their bellies and do what they're told.
You should be more congenial to your ally.
Toxigen
07-28-2023, 11:02 AM
Why don't you skip the bullshit and just post trans surgery videos? Modern medicine does it a lot better than a Roman hackjob
Nah I'm all set on seeing a festering wound that has to be constantly opened up to stop the body from healing itself.
Nah I'm all set on seeing a festering wound that has to be constantly opened up to stop the body from healing itself.
They get off on that. They really get off on that.
Origen
07-28-2023, 11:17 AM
You should be more congenial to your ally.Nope, not taking the high road when it comes to fascists and their hatred for people different than them. Best I can do is thoughts and prayers. Paradox of tolerance and what-have-you.
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 11:34 AM
Nope, not taking the high road when it comes to fascists and their hatred for people different than them. Best I can do is thoughts and prayers. Paradox of tolerance and what-have-you.
A circular firing squad, as they say. :p
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 11:40 AM
That reads like "I acknowledge Youtube allows hate speech, that's why I am comfortable giving them my money."
Google's goal is to sow division in the class war while making a profit, just like a bunch of other organizations that do the bidding of the billionaires.
It’s all semantics. The fact is that you’ve said things about conservatives and people on YouTube have said things about Matt Walsh and his family that are more “hateful” in my opinion than many of the things he’s said about trans people
But trans people happen to be a protected class and he isn’t. And to me, that’s all kinda stupid. “Talk as much hate as you’d like about these people, but not these people over here”. It’s all hypocrisy to me, and you are right at the forefront of it
Yet even amongst protected classes, hypocrisy reigns. The funny thing is Christianity IS a religion, yet people on YouTube can talk as much shit as they’d like about that without consequence, which isn’t the same as for talking shit about being Jewish
So even amongst “protected classes”, people play favorites. But that I’m a little more ok with, because I like being able to talk shit about Scientology and crazy backwater religions like Westboro baptist (if that one is even around), who people universally tend to dislike
Landroval
07-28-2023, 11:45 AM
Nope, not taking the high road when it comes to fascists and their hatred for people different than them. Best I can do is thoughts and prayers. Paradox of tolerance and what-have-you.
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary “attack the messenger” ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviants”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
Straight out of the JIDF playbook
Landroval
07-28-2023, 11:53 AM
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unsunghero
07-28-2023, 11:55 AM
Nope, not taking the high road when it comes to fascists and their hatred for people different than them. Best I can do is thoughts and prayers. Paradox of tolerance and what-have-you.
No, stick to your guns, your self-awareness is one of your positives in my opinion
You havre already numerous times proudly announced here of using the tactics of and becoming the thing you swore to destroy
This means spewing as much hate as you can at people you can categorize as deserving of it. This means supporting Antifa’s violent fascist tactics as long as it’s on people you personally see as fascists
Having self-awareness and not pretending to be someone you aren’t is always a strength. Don’t backtrack on it now and pretend to be a “I’ll pray for you” sorta pacifist
Origen
07-28-2023, 12:00 PM
I am a pacifist, but that doesn't mean I turn the other cheek. Matt Walsh is lucky some hospital hasn't hired mercenaries. If he just minded his own business, he wouldn't be wealthy and succesful. He could be going to courtrooms to object to name change notices, but he chooses hospitals instead.
As usual, rightoids are just mad when they get treated the way they treat people, like petulant children.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 12:07 PM
I am a pacifist, but that doesn't mean I turn the other cheek. Matt Walsh is lucky some hospital hasn't hired mercenaries. If he just minded his own business, he wouldn't be wealthy and succesful. He could be going to courtrooms to object to name change notices, but he chooses hospitals instead.
As usual, rightoids are just mad when they get treated the way they treat people, like petulant children.
He said in a video his family has basically had to go into witness protection and he has hired security due to constant death threats for his family
All his info was also hacked in a fairly complicated hacking scheme where they found a way to duplicate his phone’s SIM card or something
But yes, he is rich. Having to constantly be hyper-vigilant that dozens if not hundreds of crazy leftists want to kill you and your children isn’t worth the money to me. I’ll stick with anonymity and $65k/yr income ;)
Origen
07-28-2023, 12:11 PM
He did that to himself, I have zero pity and don't even really believe him anyways. If it's true, sounds like he bit off more than he can chew. I wonder where your pity is for the families his legions of fascist supporters initimidate constantly.
That's the kind of thing that happens when you help oppress the opressed, they fight back and they fight back dirty.
I'd harry every alt-righter at every restaurant they ever tried to go to the rest of their natural lives if I had the resources.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 12:13 PM
He did that to himself, I have zero pity and don't even really believe him anyways. If it's true, sounds like he bit off more than he can chew. I wonder where your pity is for the families his legions of fascist supporters initimidate constantly.
That's the kind of thing that happens when you help oppress the opressed, they fight back and they fight back dirty.
I'd harry every alt-righter at every restaurant they ever tried to go to the rest of their natural lives if I had the resources.
That’s more like the Rob I remember. Glad we got away from this pray for you silliness
Death to people I don’t like
Origen
07-28-2023, 12:16 PM
No, I wouldn't kill anyone but I would absolutely make their lives unpleasant, constantly.
No peace for the wicked.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 12:22 PM
No, I wouldn't kill anyone but I would absolutely make their lives unpleasant, constantly.
No peace for the wicked.
I doubt you would in public, maybe somehow online or something
But I still respect the premise, although I wouldn’t apply it the same direction, politically:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/6Iwagl4FL4I
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Their idea of child abuse is telling little Johnny he can't cut off his pee pee because Ms. Diddler told him it's a good thing.
Destroying children is their goal. They get off on it.
Origen
07-28-2023, 12:33 PM
I would need the resources of a billionaire to enact my personal policies regarding the right. In reality I'd probably just get shot.
I am sure my plan to triple the federal income taxes for anyone who votes for Trump for a ten year period is probably illegal, but it would fund red state rescue orgs!
That video is age restricted tho
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 12:36 PM
I would need the resources of a billionaire to enact my personal policies regarding the right. In reality I'd probably just get shot.
I am sure my plan to triple the federal income taxes for anyone who votes for Trump for a ten year period is probably illegal, but it would fund red state rescue orgs!
That video is age restricted tho
It’s a 5 second meme, it’s harmless. Only age restricted because YouTube is weird about having a swear word in the first 5 seconds of a video
Origen
07-28-2023, 12:41 PM
I submit this video for review as a substitute
n__GJuqLb00
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 12:43 PM
I would need the resources of a billionaire to enact my personal policies regarding the right. In reality I'd probably just get shot.
I am sure my plan to triple the federal income taxes for anyone who votes for Trump for a ten year period is probably illegal, but it would fund red state rescue orgs!
That video is age restricted tho
The state should oppress half of its citizens.
Origen
07-28-2023, 12:45 PM
It already oppresses all of them. I'm not a Taxologist.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 12:46 PM
As usual, rightoids are just mad when they get treated the way they treat people, like petulant children.
What would be the Leftoid equivelent? Sucker punching random minority mothers at the Portland airport in front of their children?
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 12:49 PM
What would be the Leftoid equivelent? Sucker punching random minority mothers at the Portland airport in front of their children?
Or how trans people get treated in poor black communities
Anyone who thinks trans people get love and acceptance in hyper-masculine poor black culture are either not looking at news articles about their assaults, or naive, or both
Landroval
07-28-2023, 12:51 PM
Punt kicking Uncle Tom's at a Right Rally?
Anyone who doesn't think, do, or vote as they do are fair game for punishment and death.
You know, tolerant Liberals and all that.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 12:56 PM
Anyone who doesn't think, do, or vote as they do are fair game for punishment and death.
You know, tolerant Liberals and all that.
It’s easiest if you don’t see them as people
Nazis and fascists aren’t people, lowers the cognitive dissonance with assaulting or killing them
Taken right from the Nazi playbook of course
Edit: also works for fetuses
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 01:01 PM
I submit this video for review as a substitute
n__GJuqLb00
Everybody laughed at that tweet and he got roasted. :D
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 01:06 PM
Everybody laughed at that tweet and he got roasted. :D
If any particular gaming community is 1 single political party I would be really surprised at that
That’s not really how modern life works, almost always a blend
Speedrunning is fucking weird to me though as a concept
Origen
07-28-2023, 01:06 PM
Or how trans people get treated in poor black communities
Anyone who thinks trans people get love and acceptance in hyper-masculine poor black culture are either not looking at news articles about their assaults, or naive, or bothFeel free to use these concepts in an attempt to do right wing outreach to black voters. Good luck.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 01:10 PM
Feel free to use these concepts in an attempt to do right wing outreach to black voters. Good luck.
Translation:
Black voters are a useful tool
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 01:15 PM
Feel free to use these concepts in an attempt to do right wing outreach to black voters. Good luck.
Myself at 6’0 210 lbs is far more likely to walk around freely and safely in a poor black community than a black man wearing a dress
Poor black boys and men respect strength, toughness, and scrappiness, and none of that is associated with a man in a dress
They are very likely to be victimized there
Blingy
07-28-2023, 01:16 PM
Anyone who doesn't think, do, or vote as they do are fair game for punishment and death.
You know, tolerant Liberals and all that.
Shhhhhh......don't tell anybody about Horace Lorenzo Anderson. An excerpt about Seattle's CHOP/CHAZ.
“Officers attempted to locate a shooting victim but were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers’ safe access to the victims,” Seattle Police Department said in a press release at the time.
“Officers were later informed that the victims, both males, had been transported to Harborview Medical Center by CHOP 'medics,'” it continued. “Officers responded to Harborview and were informed that one of the victims, a 19-year-old male, had died from injuries.”
Well crap, cat's out of the bag I guess.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 01:16 PM
Is it ok if we teach the history of who owned the transatlantic slave trade in school too?
Or how about who predominately owned the slaves in the South? How about we start teaching in school that over 40% of Jewish households in the US owned slaves whereas non-jewish whites were mostly too poor to own slaves with less than 15% of "white" families owning slaves?
Can we teach them how the Zionists are repaying the white world the favor of rescuing them from Nazi Germany too?
Origen
07-28-2023, 01:19 PM
Myself at 6’0 210 lbs is far more likely to walk around freely and safely in a poor black community than a black man wearing a dress
Poor black boys and men respect strength, toughness, and scrappiness, and none of that is associated with a man in a dress
They are very likely to be victimized thereWoosh
Landroval
07-28-2023, 01:20 PM
Can we teach black people in school that the vast majority of the "White" populace being admitted into Ivy League schools are Jewish chameleon "whites" as well?
Origen
07-28-2023, 01:22 PM
In before Landroval posts the full text of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Landroval
07-28-2023, 01:22 PM
Are there any ethical concerns I should be worried about in changing my surname to Cohen, ***stein, ***berg, Saltzman, Newman etc?
Origen
07-28-2023, 01:24 PM
Can't imagine why Rob insists on the fact that the right has a fascism problem
Just imagine all the things this idiot isn't saying
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 01:25 PM
Woosh
I have no idea what your point was
You do realize there is such a thing as black conservatives right?
And yes, I could go into black communities as a conservative and do outreach and probably safely walk away, probably won’t change anyone’s minds because tribalism
But at least I would safely walk away because I’m generally not someone seen as weak or easy to fuck with
A black democrat trans person, probably not the same result
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 01:27 PM
There’s a reason many assault victims of poor black people are little Asian women
They respect strength, and the further from that you are, the more of a potential victim you become
Botten
07-28-2023, 01:28 PM
Twitter: Wokely Correct Comics
I find it funny you are exactly what the national news media describes MAGA.
Individuals stuck in their echo chamber communities getting their mind numbing information fed to them from kinfolk and foreign interference.
It is like you replaced FoxNews for straight up tabloid drama and comics.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 01:29 PM
Going on a hike, peace
Origen
07-28-2023, 01:32 PM
I have no idea what your point was
You do realize there is such a thing as black conservatives right?
And yes, I could go into black communities as a conservative and do outreach and probably safely walk away, probably won’t change anyone’s minds because tribalism
But at least I would safely walk away because I’m generally not someone seen as weak or easy to fuck with
A black democrat trans person, probably not the same resultI live in a deeply red rural county and several of my friends are pastors.
It's your other beliefs that will get you in hot water. The anti-trans sentiment is common in many communities, sadly, but your shallow reductionist takes on any non-white community won't make you any friends
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 01:37 PM
Can we teach them how the Zionists are repaying the white world the favor of rescuing them from Nazi Germany too?
Sorry, who were they rescued from?
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 01:40 PM
I live in a deeply red rural county and several of my friends are pastors.
It's your other beliefs that will get you in hot water. The anti-trans sentiment is common in many communities, sadly, but your shallow reductionist takes on any non-white community won't make you any friends
You can try to change the subject, but the fact remains that the poor black community for the most part is NOT accepting of trans people
Nor are orthodox Muslim Dems or old school Catholic Hispanic Dems
In fact, the ONLY people accepting of trans people are white wanna-be saviors who like to fap to their moral superiority while hating the religion and half the country they are told to hate
So don’t give me this “only right wing” hates trans people. None of those other communities would welcome them, none of them would push gender affirmation on their children
But continue to live in your deluded fantasy all you want
Origen
07-28-2023, 01:52 PM
Waria
Muxes
Sekrata
Hijras
Fa’afafine and fa’afatama
Myopic westerner, these things are problematic sometimes in their own cultures and trans people are openly hated all over the globe.
"Deluded fantasy" because I oppose hatred, whatever man
Botten
07-28-2023, 01:55 PM
You can try to change the subject, but the fact remains that the poor black community for the most part is NOT accepting of trans people
Nor are orthodox Muslim Dems or old school Catholic Hispanic Dems
In fact, the ONLY people accepting of trans people are white wanna-be saviors who like to fap to their moral superiority while hating the religion and half the country they are told to hate
So don’t give me this “only right wing” hates trans people. None of those other communities would welcome them, none of them would push gender affirmation on their children
But continue to live in your deluded fantasy all you want
Not really...
Transgender people are being harassed in correctional facilities but are also accepted by them for carnal reasons. Many of these juveniles come out of the system or go back through the revolving door into an institute that reinforces either gay or trans intimacies.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 02:14 PM
Not really...
Transgender people are being harassed in correctional facilities but are also accepted by them for carnal reasons. Many of these juveniles come out of the system or go back through the revolving door into an institute that reinforces either gay or trans intimacies.
Oh you mean rape?
For every loving correctional facility relationship I guarantee you there 2 forced victimizations
Sex starved men raping trans women in correctional facilities is not love IMO
It’s one of the reasons I personally have no problem with putting very passable trans women in women’s facilities. One creates a possibility of rape, the other GUARANTEES it
Botten
07-28-2023, 02:25 PM
Oh you mean rape?
For every loving correctional facility relationship I guarantee you there 2 forced victimizations
Sex starved men raping trans women in correctional facilities is not love IMO
It’s one of the reasons I personally have no problem with putting very passable trans women in women’s facilities. One creates a possibility of rape, the other GUARANTEES it
And that's how you get more to experience the forced intimacy. And some only know that. The right wants to lock them all up for any small infraction but then yell when the prisons are full of young men in their prime learn alternative habits of love.
Origen
07-28-2023, 02:26 PM
:rolleyes:
Origen
07-28-2023, 02:27 PM
Y'know if the mods here really wanted to fund Project 1999 they'd let us pay to change each other's names and avatars for certain periods of time. You have to admit it would get super fun.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 02:31 PM
And part of the reason things remain as they are is because a combination of cowardice and tribalism keeps the left from calling out when members of their own party don’t align with their viewpoints
The black community in particular can get away with literally anything from the left’s perspective. Looting is justified, violence against trans people is ignored, etc. The left is so scared of losing their vote the black community has made them their complete bitch, and I greatly respect the black community for that
One could say “oh the right always bows to the MAGA trumpers too”, and that might be true, but the right doesn’t pretend to be white saviors and are more than comfortable being seen as actual assholes than fake saviors
And I think all the infighting and fractures in the right wing are an example of why this is not as true as many think. Sure, sticking to your worldview even amongst your own party probably isn’t going to win elections, but at least you stay true to yourself
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 02:34 PM
Trans people are not even oppressed by any sane definition of that word. They get multi-million dollar endorsement deals and literally every major institution bends over backward to accommodate them. They are incredibly pampered, which is why they invent delusions like "trans genocide" to garner sympathy.
Can't rage against the machine if you have become the machine.
Botten
07-28-2023, 02:41 PM
Trans people are not even oppressed by any sane definition of that word. They get multi-million dollar endorsement deals and literally every major institution bends over backward to accommodate them. They are incredibly pampered, which is why they invent delusions like "trans genocide" to garner sympathy.
Can't rage against the machine if you have become the machine.
You preach your conspiracy!
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 02:47 PM
You preach your conspiracy!
Man remember all those african slaves and jews during the holocaust who got million dollar deals with nike and literal positions within the government?
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 02:47 PM
losing their vote
Note: this DOES not mean voting for the right. There is zero chance that will happen as well
The left knows if they do or say anything negative about the black community, justified or not, they run the risk of them simply becoming pissed off and disenfranchised and not voting at all. That would be the actual result
Not as bad as voting for the other party, not a double negative, but still a loss
Botten
07-28-2023, 02:50 PM
Note: this DOES not mean voting for the right. There is zero chance that will happen as well
The left knows if they do or say anything negative about the black community, justified or not, they run the risk of them simply becoming pissed off and disenfranchised and not voting at all. That would be the actual result
Not as bad as voting for the other party, not a double negative, but still a loss
If the right hates on Muslims (911), Blacks (BLM), Asians (Covid), Woman (abortion) and LGBTq (for re-energizing Christians) don't complain.
You did it to yourselves.
Trans people are not even oppressed by any sane definition of that word. They get multi-million dollar endorsement deals and literally every major institution bends over backward to accommodate them. They are incredibly pampered, which is why they invent delusions like "trans genocide" to garner sympathy.
Can't rage against the machine if you have become the machine.
Indeed. They're also excellent spokes (insert random stupid pronouns here).
Just ask Bud Light! :D
https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aREZ2X5_700bwp.webp
Origen
07-28-2023, 02:51 PM
And part of the reason things remain as they are is because a combination of cowardice and tribalism keeps the left from calling out when members of their own party don’t align with their viewpointsYou obviously don't know what the left even is if you think there isn't leftist infighting. Leftist infighting is the main reason we haven't already made this world into a socialist utopia.
Anyways, you've obviously got big problems with black folks and I am not going to attempt to correct you on this subject anymore because your catastrophic wrongess benefits me.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 02:54 PM
If the right hates on Muslims (911), Blacks (BLM), Asians (Covid), Woman (abortion) and LGBTq (for re-energizing Christians) don't complain.
You did it to yourselves.
I’m not complaining, just pointing out facts
Anyone who doesn’t believe me, feel free to come up with something the black community could do that would cause leftist politicians to go “hey, we have a big problem with this, this needs to change”
And what the black community response realistically would be
If there is anything at all (and the answer is probably nothing), it would have to be something really extreme. And the response would be negative, no matter how it was proposed
Not because I think black people are hard-headed or mean, but because they have gotten used to manipulating democrat politicians for so long, they will not respond well to any initial criticisms
Origen
07-28-2023, 02:54 PM
Can't rage against the machine if you have become the machine.Aw, that reminds me of Jib, constantly trying to get across that the right is both counter-culture and oppressed by the left that barely exists but also are in charge of the majority of national offices
Anyways, you've obviously gotten all of your information about these issues from reactionary television and Youtube so carry on in your feedback loop.
Origen
07-28-2023, 02:55 PM
Anyone who doesn’t believe me, feel free to come up with something the black community could do that would cause leftist politicians to go “hey, we have a big problem with this, this needs to change”
And what the black community response realistically would be
If there is anything at all (and the answer is probably nothing), or would have to be something really extreme. And the response would be negative, no matter how it was proposedCovid-19 vaccines
But there are no leftist politicians, hope this helps
https://i.imgflip.com/29w750.jpg
Origen
07-28-2023, 02:58 PM
Thanks, Facebook Uncle, for that Basic Bitch Meme
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 02:58 PM
Covid-19 vaccines
But there are no leftist politicians, hope this helps
And how did they create change again?
Seems to me they backed down immediately. I mean pointing out the problem and attempting to create change in some way
Origen
07-28-2023, 02:59 PM
Is "they" the federal government, or the entirety of black folks?
The feds backed down, that's for sure, I was hoping for a broad vaccine mandate but it never materialized
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 03:00 PM
This about sums up what Dems did regarding covid vaccinations in the black community
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_sKVJ_i-FVw
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 03:01 PM
Man remember all those african slaves and jews during the holocaust who got million dollar deals with nike and literal positions within the government?
What % of trans people do you think have deals with Nike?
Origen
07-28-2023, 03:04 PM
What % of trans people do you think have deals with Nike?Anti-white racism ended the day the NHL was founded!!!! I'm Nega-Ooloo and I get my information exclusively from Nega-Matt Walsh
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 03:07 PM
Is "they" the federal government, or the entirety of black folks?
The feds backed down, that's for sure, I was hoping for a broad vaccine mandate but it never materialized
To be fair, covid vaccinations are one thing in the last 30 years that Dems have tried to call the black community on it’s true
They backed down like little bitches and offered up reasons “it’s because of their past” that made it more ok, while most Dems laughed at white conservatives refusing the vaccine and said basically have fun dying
But pointing one thing wrong in the community and immediately backing down like a bitch is still better than nothing, it is true
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 03:10 PM
Anti-white racism ended the day the NHL was founded!!!! I'm Nega-Ooloo and I get my information exclusively from Nega-Matt Walsh
I can grok it as a stretch if he means the entire trans meme.
Oh noes! The new boogeyman has arrived! I'm afraid that Global Warming is over and it's now called Global Boiling!
Hahahhahaha! You just can't make this stuff up! BOOGEY BOOGEY! :D
OEtV3QlPUaU
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 03:14 PM
Oh noes! The new boogeyman has arrived! I'm afraid that Global Warming is over and it's now called Global Boiling!
Hahahhahaha! You just can't make this stuff up! BOOGEY BOOGEY! :D
I remember when this was all over the news, now 8 years ago
Toxigen
07-28-2023, 03:15 PM
fwiw any resumes / email correspondence i read in which a person lists their pronouns are automatically deleted
Origen
07-28-2023, 03:18 PM
fwiw any resumes / email correspondence i read in which a person lists their pronouns are automatically deletedThat's just the dating advice I gave my dad when he is trying to avoid dating conservatives in his 70+ circle... just add pronouns to profile and dumb reactionaries run for the hills. I'm sure Dollar Tree is prospering under your iron policy
I will now resume my character of Nega-Ooloo.
White people are not even oppressed by any sane definition of that word. They get multi-million dollar endorsement deals and literally every major institution bends over backward to accommodate them. They are incredibly pampered, which is why they invent delusions like "white genocide" to garner sympathy.
Can't rage against the machine if you have become the machine.
fwiw any resumes / email correspondence i read in which a person lists their pronouns are automatically deleted
https://media.giphy.com/media/3ornjHL4fLS94x39Wo/giphy.gif
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 03:24 PM
Oh noes! The new boogeyman has arrived! I'm afraid that Global Warming is over and it's now called Global Boiling!
Hahahhahaha! You just can't make this stuff up! BOOGEY BOOGEY! :D
OEtV3QlPUaU
This turns into a commercial for some vitamins 3 minutes in.
Botten
07-28-2023, 03:33 PM
Oh noes! The new boogeyman has arrived! I'm afraid that Global Warming is over and it's now called Global Boiling!
Hahahhahaha! You just can't make this stuff up! BOOGEY BOOGEY! :D
Because coastal waters off Florida should always feel like a Hot Tub.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/florida-ocean-records-unprecedented-temperatures-similar-to-a-hot-tub-4240249
Homesteaded
07-28-2023, 03:37 PM
Being on time and productive at work are racist, or is that not a thing anymore?
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 03:42 PM
Because coastal waters off Florida should always feel like a Hot Tub.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/florida-ocean-records-unprecedented-temperatures-similar-to-a-hot-tub-4240249
at a depth of five feet (1.5 meters). :rolleyes:
"Keep in mind that the observations in Manatee Bay are in shallow water in a closed-off cove with dark seagrass on the bottom," Zierden said. "I would not consider them a "sea surface temperature," as that implies open ocean."
Origen
07-28-2023, 03:44 PM
Being on time and productive at work are racist, or is that not a thing anymore?I love what is and is not racist to the mind of the reactionary.
Ignores the Protocols of the Elders of Zion posts, but wrings his hands over the racism of a thing he made up. Classic.
Being on time and productive at work are racist, or is that not a thing anymore?
40 Bizarre Things Liberals Have Called Racist (https://www.culturcidal.com/p/40-bizarre-things-liberals-have-called)
1) The A-OK sign: How did the OK sign become a symbol of white supremacy? (Despite the fact most people now seem aware that this is a 4chan hoax, liberals STILL bought into it.)
2) Babies: Google ‘Antiracism’ Training Says 3-Month-Old Babies Are Racist
3) Ben Shapiro: Leaked Docs at Google Expose 'Anti-Racism' Initiative: Ben Shapiro Listed in 'White Supremacy Pyramid'
4) A black, conservative commentator: Candace Owens Is At It Again, Coming Out Her Black Face to Whitesplain Away the Impact of White Supremacy
5) Black holes: Now Space Is Racist: Ivy League Class Highlights Connection Between Black Holes and Black People
6) A black Republican running for governor: CNN's Stelter allows guest to call Larry Elder a 'white supremacist' unchallenged
7) A black Republican woman who became the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia: Liberal MSNBC guest calls Winsome Sears a 'Black mouth' for 'White supremacist practices'
8) Calling the COVID-19 virus, which is from China, the “China Virus:” NFL exec apologizes for saying words ‘China Virus’ after meaning of ‘racist slur’ is redefined
9) Capitalism: Report: Verizon Diversity Training Teaches America, Capitalism Are Racist
10) Colorblindness: Colorblindness: the New Racism?
11) Dr. Seuss: Is It Time to Cancel Dr. Seuss Due to Racist Imagery?
12) Enforcing immigration law: Institutional Racism in Enforcing Immigration Law
13) Farmer’s markets: OH, COME ON! Farmer’s Markets Now Being Called Racist!
14) The FIFA soccer video game: ‘FIFA’ Soccer Video Game Promotes Racism
15) The flag and police: University of Alabama Dean: American Flag and Police Represent ‘Systemic History of Racism’
16) Hoop earrings: A Message From the Latinas Who Made the ‘White Girl, Take OFF Your Hoops’ Mural
17) Hospitals: Actor Jodie Turner-Smith Gave Birth at Home Because of ‘Systemic Racism’ in Hospitals
18) Jingle Bells: 'Jingle Bells' rooted in racism, Boston University professor says
19) Legal votes: Leading ‘anti-racist’ prof calls the term ‘legal vote’ ‘racist’
20) Abe Lincoln (Of course, he freed the slaves.): San Francisco Wants to Rename Abraham Lincoln High School: Former POTUS ‘Stained by Racism’
21) Math: Is mathematics racist? California could blaze pathway with woke math
22) Merit: Why Calling Merit Racist Erases People of Color
23) The National Anthem: Is the US national anthem a racist song?
24) National parks: National Parks Are Latest Target of Systemic Racism Claim in America
25) *****rdly (Which predates the N-word and means miserly.): Is using this N-word (*****rdly) a firing offense?
26) Perfectionism and a sense of urgency: University faculty training lists 'perfectionism,' and 'sense of urgency' as indicators of 'white supremacy'
27) Pointing out when people of color are being divisive: Dear White Gay Men: Labeling People of Color "Divisive" Isn't a Critique — It's Racism
28) Rocks: ‘Racist’ rock removed from University of Wisconsin Madison campus
29) Saying you’re not racist: Don’t say ‘I am not a racist’
30) Science, statistics, and technology: According to this professor, 'Science, statistics, and technology are all inherently racist'
31) Single-family home neighborhoods: Academics Claim Single Family Home Neighborhoods Have Legacy of Racism
32) Skiing: How Skiing’s Whiteness Has Affected Me, and How We Can Change It
33) Standard English: Race radicals want to abolish standard English
34) Trees: Racist Trees to Be Removed in Palm Springs
35) The COVID vaccine mandate: Black Lives Matter threatens ‘uprising’ over NYC Mayor de Blasio’s ‘racist’ vax mandate
36) Violence against Asians from non-white people: Prof claims that violence against Asians from non-white people is still caused by ‘white supremacy’
37) Voter ID: How racism underlies voter ID laws: the academics weigh in
38) Wearing a Make America Great Again! hat: Why Trump’s MAGA hats have become a potent symbol of racism
39) White people: Yes My Dear, All White People Are Racists
40) White people reproducing: Professor Claims It’s RACIST For White People To Reproduce
ROFL. Liberals are 100% certifiably insane! :D
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unsunghero
07-28-2023, 03:51 PM
Wow apparently right away I put my foot in my mouth
This is in Chicago so I think it’s safe to assume the people they are talking to are black
It won’t accomplish shit, but even calling them out is more than I’ve almost ever seen done. Takes a tiny bit of balls, bravo
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 04:05 PM
I will now resume my character of Nega-Ooloo.
Lol well last I checked its like completely fine and socially acceptable (and often encouraged) to shit all over white people so that makes no sense and is retarded.
Put down the marxist social stack man, it's a dead end. I pursued it for years; years that I'll never get back. Just trying to help you out.
Botten
07-28-2023, 04:19 PM
at a depth of five feet (1.5 meters). :rolleyes:
"Keep in mind that the observations in Manatee Bay are in shallow water in a closed-off cove with dark seagrass on the bottom," Zierden said. "I would not consider them a "sea surface temperature," as that implies open ocean."
"The exceptional temperatures – close to 97 degrees Fahrenheit in some areas – are more than just another alarming climate record; extreme ocean heat and its duration are critical in deciding the survival of coral reefs. Temperatures that are too hot for too long cause coral to bleach, turning a ghastly white as they expel their algal food source and slowly starve to death. "
A nice spread of purple don't you think? :(
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aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 04:26 PM
"The exceptional temperatures – close to 97 degrees Fahrenheit in some areas – are more than just another alarming climate record; extreme ocean heat and its duration are critical in deciding the survival of coral reefs. Temperatures that are too hot for too long cause coral to bleach, turning a ghastly white as they expel their algal food source and slowly starve to death. "
A nice spread of purple don't you think? :(
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Wow, colors.
Botten
07-28-2023, 04:29 PM
Wow, colors.
Don’t trip you may get a wicked burrrrrrrrrrrn:eek:
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 05:00 PM
It's hot in the northern hemisphere during the summer guys we're all gonna die if we don't dispense with fossil fuels and ya know fuck all those poor people who will die if we do that. Look at the colors.
Btw more people die from extreme cold than heat, so in theory the earth warming might actually save lives. Just saying!
It's hot in the northern hemisphere during the summer guys we're all gonna die if we don't dispense with fossil fuels and ya know fuck all those poor people who will die if we do that. Look at the colors.
Btw more people die from extreme cold than heat, so in theory the earth warming might actually save lives. Just saying!
Governments and corporations only have the well being of humans in mind, I'm sure if we throw more money at them and give them more control they'll fix everything.
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Origen
07-28-2023, 05:12 PM
Lol well last I checked its like completely fine and socially acceptable (and often encouraged) to shit all over white people so that makes no sense and is retarded.
Put down the marxist social stack man, it's a dead end. I pursued it for years; years that I'll never get back. Just trying to help you out.If you pursued it with the same intellectual rigor that you do your modern authoritarian beliefs, then I can see why you became the low information reactionary that you now are.
Anyways, go to death valley and hang out in the 130F heat with no water, show us all that you believe in your Youtube Certification
Origen
07-28-2023, 05:20 PM
It's hot in the northern hemisphere during the summer guys we're all gonna die if we don't dispense with fossil fuels and ya know fuck all those poor people who will die if we do that. Look at the colors.
Btw more people die from extreme cold than heat, so in theory the earth warming might actually save lives. Just saying!You don't know anything about science at all and it shows
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 05:28 PM
Well I think you're wrong too, I just usually explain why.
What part of what I said was wrong? Do more people not die from extreme cold than heat? Human beings are mammals which are warm blooded. Mull that over for a while.
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 05:39 PM
People living in extreme heat require air conditioning. Which requires energy. People living in extreme cold require heat. Which requires energy.
Clearly we need energy. Nuclear is by far the safest and cleanest form of energy production, requiring the smallest land footprint. I'll take your concerns seriously once you start advocating for more nuclear plants and dispense with the hippydippy wind and solar pipe dream.
Botten
07-28-2023, 05:47 PM
People living in extreme heat require air conditioning. Which requires energy. People living in extreme cold require heat. Which requires energy.
Clearly we need energy. Nuclear is by far the safest and cleanest form of energy production, requiring the smallest land footprint. I'll take your concerns seriously once you start advocating for more nuclear plants and dispense with the hippydippy wind and solar pipe dream.
LK-99
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 05:52 PM
LK-99
Hey if it works sign me up.
It's not like anybody is *in favor* of the world ending due to climate change. We all live on the earth. The disagreement is over the extent to which we can control it without a bunch of people dying, and which remedy is the best.
Why is california so rabidly opposed to new nuclear reactors being built? Their power grid goes out like every year.
Origen
07-28-2023, 05:57 PM
Well I think you're wrong too, I just usually explain why.
What part of what I said was wrong? Do more people not die from extreme cold than heat? Human beings are mammals which are warm blooded. Mull that over for a while.Starting to think you didn't even finish high school.
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 05:59 PM
Cool that's great. Why doesn't california want to invest in nuclear energy?
Origen
07-28-2023, 05:59 PM
I'll take your concerns regarding the welfare of children seriously when you begin to support universal, socialist healthcare :rolleyes:
This guy gets every scrap of his bad information from youtube millionaires, yeesh, imagine living like that.
Origen
07-28-2023, 06:01 PM
Cool that's great. Why doesn't california want to invest in nuclear energy?Because they're shortsighted, conservative neoliberals and nuclear energy actually solves problems. They can't fleece us as efficiently if we aren't always on the edge of disaster.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 06:02 PM
Cool that's great. Why doesn't california want to invest in nuclear energy?
Same reason theyre dumping last year's record rainfall back into the ocean as fast as possible. It's not conducive to climate change agenda
Landroval
07-28-2023, 06:03 PM
I'll take your concerns regarding the welfare of children seriously when you begin to support universal, socialist healthcare :rolleyes:
This guy gets every scrap of his bad information from youtube millionaires, yeesh, imagine living like that.
The bar for entry on no cost medi-cal for children is well above the poverty line.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 06:06 PM
At $80,000/year essentially every child in the state of California is covered by medi-cal sans the wealthy. Are you grifting for the rich to get free medical coverage?
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 06:09 PM
I'll take your concerns regarding the welfare of children seriously when you begin to support universal, socialist healthcare :rolleyes:
This guy gets every scrap of his bad information from youtube millionaires, yeesh, imagine living like that.
Universal socialist healthcare sucks and even the systems that exist are subsidized by enormous taxes and the fact that the US takes care of most developed nations militaries.
I'm not against everyone getting free magic healthcare at the drop of a hat, if that's what you're implying I'm against. Although I *am* against deploying nascent, experimental and completely unproven medical treatments to minors and pretending they're totally good and fine.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 06:12 PM
Universal socialist healthcare sucks and even the systems that exist are subsidized by enormous taxes and the fact that the US takes care of most developed nations militaries.
I'm not against everyone getting free magic healthcare at the drop of a hat, if that's what you're implying I'm against. Although I *am* against deploying nascent, experimental and completely unproven medical treatments to minors and pretending they're totally good and fine.
It's probably too late to do anything about the latter, TBH. Their quack science was "legitimized" by ((())) collision. You would essentially have to successfully lobby against the vast wealth structure currently benefitting off the lifetime consumer/subscriber model they've got going on right now, which is never gonna happen. The task is alin to defeating big agra and getting a ban on GMO entirely.
Mind you, the sockpuppets on both sides of the political aisle are benefitting tremendously from it as well, so good luck with that one
Well I think you're wrong too, I just usually explain why.
What part of what I said was wrong? Do more people not die from extreme cold than heat? Human beings are mammals which are warm blooded. Mull that over for a while.
Because what you're saying is just literally too stupid to engage with at this point and it's just not worth any energy. People have been telling you for years; it's not like you haven't gotten the message or nobody has ever told you. And you aren't explaining why, you're spouting surface level opinions hot off the conservosphere presses, when the actual issues are far deeper and more nuanced.
The belief that the US healthcare system is awesome and other rich Western countries' systems are shit.
The belief that there is no anthropogenic climate change, or we have no ability to alter the trajectory or mitigate it.
These things are demonstrably false and if you're specifically requesting that we, personally, educate you on them instead of you accessing the easily available information then you're just sealioning. In which case, kindly fuck off
Ooloo
07-28-2023, 07:37 PM
Because what you're saying is just literally too stupid to engage with at this point and it's just not worth any energy. People have been telling you for years; it's not like you haven't gotten the message or nobody has ever told you. And you aren't explaining why, you're spouting surface level opinions hot off the conservosphere presses, when the actual issues are far deeper and more nuanced.
The belief that the US healthcare system is awesome and other rich Western countries' systems are shit.
The belief that there is no anthropogenic climate change, or we have no ability to alter the trajectory or mitigate it.
These things are demonstrably false and if you're specifically requesting that we, personally, educate you on them instead of you accessing the easily available information then you're just sealioning. In which case, kindly fuck off
Lots of words to not actually refute anything I said. And I never said I don't believe in climate change, only that it's not the apocalyptic alarmist scenario it's broadly portrayed as. And many of the proposed prescriptions for it are anti human and anti human flourishing.
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 07:38 PM
The belief that there is no anthropogenic climate change, or we have no ability to alter the trajectory or mitigate it.
What beliefs about climate change are valid?
Trexller
07-28-2023, 07:44 PM
What beliefs about climate change are valid?
that only 40 years of actual solid data can predict what the earth's climate will be 100 years from now
or that modern science knows exactly what the temp and carbon content of the atmosphere was 100,000 years ago
What % of our atmosphere is C02? what was it 50 years ago?
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unsunghero
07-28-2023, 07:47 PM
What beliefs about climate change are valid?
Whichever ones involve giving more money to support climate change science
Climate changes every day. You idiots.
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What beliefs about climate change are valid?
That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution. Energy policy has the potential to affect the trajectory of this increase over the next 100 years and beyond.
that only 40 years of actual solid data can predict what the earth's climate will be 100 years from now
or that modern science knows exactly what the temp and carbon content of the atmosphere was 100,000 years ago
What % of our atmosphere is C02? what was it 50 years ago?
lmao they aren't stumped, that's a retarded and loaded question. Percent is not how atmospheric gases work in a meaningful way. Scientists typically treat it as ppm. CO2 is .04 percent of the volume of the atmosphere, however the PPM has risen 50% since the industrial revolution.
With gases, percentage is not generally a useful way to handle them because they are free molecules with wildly different mass and they differ by orders of magnitude in their ability to trap heat.
The man is a disingenuous retard undoubtedly funded by petroleum companies. Also, didn't watch.
Trexller
07-28-2023, 07:59 PM
chemicals in rocks tell me what the atmospheric chemical make up and air temperature was a million years ago
so you can't have a gas powered weed whacker
Liberals: Co2 is da debil Bobby!
Scientists: Plants use Co2 to make food.
Liberals: Shut up you raciss!
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Origen
07-28-2023, 08:00 PM
Lots of words to not actually refute anything I said. And I never said I don't believe in climate change, only that it's not the apocalyptic alarmist scenario it's broadly portrayed as. And many of the proposed prescriptions for it are anti human and anti human flourishing.It's called Degrowth (https://degrowth.info/degrowth)
Botten
07-28-2023, 08:03 PM
Climate changes every day. You idiots.
Says the guy who believes in the illuminati.
Trexller
07-28-2023, 08:04 PM
I have ideas on how people should live their entire lives
my ideas are the only right ideas
to question my ideas is an exercise in racism, sexism, and all forms of bigotry. If it's something that can make you look bad, then that's what you do when you question my ideas
I don't wanna have to explain myself in any convincing or irrefutable manner, so instead I'm just gonna label you as bad_concept_0086435 so that my ideas about how people should live are no longer philosophy, they are social law
because you're a racist and I'm not, that's why climate change is real !!
If your ideas are the right ones, prove it. Until then, here's what NASA thinks
https://i.imgur.com/7t6qdQS.jpg
Maybe they should hire Trexxler
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:06 PM
That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity.
This seems really dodgy to me
This seems to imply that we for sure know that, for example, had we humans not existed ever on earth, that the climate would for sure 100% either be staying the same or getting cooler, factoring all the other environmental factors on it from earth and space
And even if it is true, the “trajectory” change is probably incredibly controversial. Maybe it’s a lot, maybe it’s insignificant
This seems really dodgy to me
This seems to imply that we for sure know that, for example, had we humans not existed ever on earth, that the climate would for sure 100% either be staying the same or getting cooler, factoring all the other environmental factors on it from earth and space
And even if it is true, the “trajectory” change is probably incredibly controversial. Maybe it’s a lot, maybe it’s insignificant
Our highly accurate models have been able to isolate 'natural' changes from human ones. The climate was naturally warming, slowly, however that level of warming pales in comparison to the anthropogenic warming. The climate fluctuates all the time, but we have never seen the rate of warming over the last 100 years in the record, and we have proven beyond a reasonable doubt this is associated with the heat-trapping effect of carbon dioxide, among other gases.
Trexller
07-28-2023, 08:10 PM
Our highly accurate models
Lune knows what the temperature was 1 million years ago
Trust The Science
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unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:11 PM
Our highly accurate models have been able to isolate 'natural' changes from human ones. The climate was naturally warming, slowly, however that level of warming pales in comparison to the anthropogenic warming. The climate fluctuates all the time, but we have never seen the rate of warming over the last 100 years in the record, and we have proven beyond a reasonable doubt this is associated with the heat-trapping effect of carbon dioxide, among other gases.
So you just contradicted your first statement, is that a shock value thing?
“The climate is getting warmer and that is from human activity”
Next post
“The climate was naturally warming, slowly”
I get a lot of that shock value stuff from the climate change alarmists. I don’t doubt that we have some influence, although it’s nice to see an admission that as I suspected it was already occurring and I still believe the amount of our influence is subjective
So you just contradicted your first statement, is that a shock value thing?
“The climate is getting warmer and that is from human activity”
Next post
“The climate was naturally warming, slowly”
I get a lot of that shock value stuff from the climate change alarmists. I don’t doubt that we have some influence, although it’s nice to see an admission that as I suspected it was already occurring and I still believe the amount of our influence is subjective
Read it more closely. The climate was already slowly warming before we started terraforming the planet. Our warming was dramatically faster and superimposed on that slow, pre-existing warming. The models based on historical data are robust enough they were able to predict both the natural trajectory itself, and the trajectory with human influences, such that they could be isolated from each other.
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 08:16 PM
That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution. Energy policy has the potential to affect the trajectory of this increase over the next 100 years and beyond.
That doesn't say anything about whether it's good or bad, just that it's our fault.
Humanity has created plenty of things that are not bad, such as women's beach volleyball.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:17 PM
Read it more closely. The climate was already slowly warming before we started terraforming the planet. Our warming was dramatically faster and superimposed on that slow, pre-existing warming. The models based on historical data are robust enough they were able to predict both the natural trajectory itself, and the trajectory with human influences, such that they could be isolated from each other.
Ok let’s use the entire sentence then
“That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution”
I didn’t see anything there about natural warming. Is it in the same color as the background and invisible?
Once again, I’m glad you acknowledge this warming is part natural, and I will continue to disagree on the amount of our influence, but NOT the fact we do have some influence
That doesn't say anything about whether it's bad for us or good for us, just that it's our fault.
Humanity has created plenty of things that are not bad, such as women's beach volleyball.
I don't say whether it's good for us or bad for us because I don't know. The climate scientists might. Those predictions are too complicated for me to understand and probably not as robust as what I'm posting here. I wouldn't state those predictions as fact.
However, it would be a hell of a gamble to assume 6'F of warming 150 years from now would be just peachy for humanity.
Ok let’s use the entire sentence then
“That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution”
I didn’t see anything there about natural warming. Is it in the same color as the background and invisible?
Once again, I’m glad you acknowledge this warming is part natural, and I will continue to disagree on the amount of our influence, but NOT the fact we do have some influence
The natural component is very tiny, that we know.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 08:18 PM
That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution. Energy policy has the potential to affect the trajectory of this increase over the next 100 years and beyond.
No it doesn't. Strip mining the entire planet and leaving desolate wasteland behind where no plant life can grow is not a viable alternative
Trexller
07-28-2023, 08:19 PM
Yeah, we drilled into the ice and wrote down the chemical composition of the ice and drew our conclusions without accounting for other geologic events
because if we don't show research that suggests there is a big problem, then we don't get anymore funding
so our entire lives and careers depend upon a problem existing
the problem HAS TO exist or I don't have a job
trust the science
Origen
07-28-2023, 08:22 PM
That doesn't say anything about whether it's good or bad, just that it's our fault.
Humanity has created plenty of things that are not bad, such as women's beach volleyball.I thought the general idea with climate activism was the preservation of a healthy ecology so that we can continue to have things like that. Good or bad
Do nothing, it's all bad!
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:22 PM
The natural component is very tiny, that we know.
Relative to a short period of time I bet! But not overall
And the alarmists don’t often even bother to mention it, just like you didn’t. I was just guessing btw, for all I know we have a model that for sure predicts the climate without humans would with 100% certainty be 50 degrees cooler
But look at that, my guess was correct, it is slowly getting warmer naturally. Gee
Landroval
07-28-2023, 08:23 PM
The only viable solution to the "global warming" crisis is to reject modernity and scrap our electrical technology entirely, and in that case whoever doesn't do it becomes the defacto world power. The total cost of ownership of the EV market is actually more burdensome to the issue than fossil fuels, and that's not even counting all of our zombie phones and tvs and everything else.
Robbing peter to pay Paul dumbfucks. None of you are smart.
Yeah, we drilled into the ice and wrote down the chemical composition of the ice and drew our conclusions without accounting for other geologic events
because if we don't show research that suggests there is a big problem, then we don't get anymore funding
so our entire lives and careers depend upon a problem existing
the problem HAS TO exist or I don't have a job
trust the science
I love that in your naïve mind the folks at NASA, NOAA, and thousands upon thousands of PhD's just didn't think of this lol
This battle was fought throughout the 80's and 90's with tons of petrol funding trying to squash the truth. The truth won out, at least outside MAGA-world
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:24 PM
I thought the general idea with climate activism was the preservation of a healthy ecology so that we can continue to have things like that. Good or bad
Do nothing, it's all bad!
I like focusing on reducing pollution in my city because I can see it’s effect on my life more clearly
If the methods go hand in hand with climate change alarmism science, then great
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 08:25 PM
I don't say whether it's good for us or bad for us because I don't know. The climate scientists might. Those predictions are too complicated for me to understand and probably not as robust as what I'm posting here. I wouldn't state those predictions as fact.
Is it valid to believe climate change is bad for us?
Trexller
07-28-2023, 08:25 PM
I love that in your naïve mind the folks at NASA, NOAA, and thousands upon thousands of PhD's just didn't think of this lol
I prefer to place my trust in scientists who DO NOT forget how to fly to the moon.
imagine placing your entire belief in people who "Lost" the tech to land on the moon
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:28 PM
I prefer to place my trust in scientists who DO NOT forget how to fly to the moon.
And it still is a valid point, funding comes from being able to present studies that are provacative
Since we’re going with pure credtialism, a Harvard psych PhD just got in trouble for manipulating studies about human behavior in order to create a shock value result. They got away with it for years being lauded as some sort of revolutionary in the field, and it wasn’t until it was heavily scrutinized by multiple other experts were they finally caught, years later, of manipulating the data, very discreetly, to produce a sensationalism result
Relative to a short period of time I bet! But not overall
And the alarmists don’t often even bother to mention it, just like you didn’t. I was just guessing btw, for all I know we have a model that for sure predicts the climate without humans would with 100% certainty be 50 degrees cooler
But look at that, my guess was correct, it is slowly getting warmer naturally. Gee
The only reason we're talking about it is because I mentioned it lol, where is your reading comprehension
Our highly accurate models have been able to isolate 'natural' changes from human ones. The climate was naturally warming, slowly, however
The NEXT SENTENCE
however, that level of warming pales in comparison to the anthropogenic warming.
Landroval
07-28-2023, 08:30 PM
Yeah, we drilled into the ice and wrote down the chemical composition of the ice and drew our conclusions without accounting for other geologic events
because if we don't show research that suggests there is a big problem, then we don't get anymore funding
so our entire lives and careers depend upon a problem existing
the problem HAS TO exist or I don't have a job
trust the science
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Origen
07-28-2023, 08:30 PM
I like focusing on reducing pollution in my city because I can see it’s effect on my life more clearly
If the methods go hand in hand with climate change alarmism science, then greatThat is awesome, everyone should love to see this at the local level and great to hear. I don't think it's alarmism tho. I don't live in a desert.
Is it valid to believe climate change is bad for us?
Being Socratic is effective as a teaching tool and as a method of cross examining a witness. But I'm not going to engage in it as a way for you to make a point.
It is valid to believe climate change is risky for us.
Our highly accurate models based on muh sciences. 🤡🎈
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unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:31 PM
The only reason we're talking about it is because I mentioned it lol, where is your reading comprehension
The NEXT SENTENCE
You didn’t acknowledge it until I presented it as an idea. Here’s your first response to the original question:
“That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution. Energy policy has the potential to affect the trajectory of this increase over the next 100 years and beyond”
Then I asked is there a natural component your are neglecting to mention?
Then you acknowledged that yes there is
Landroval
07-28-2023, 08:31 PM
I prefer to place my trust in scientists who DO NOT forget how to fly to the moon.
imagine placing your entire belief in people who "Lost" the tech to land on the moon
I prefer to place my trust in our Lord Jesus Christ
Trexller
07-28-2023, 08:33 PM
Big Letters Mean IM RIGHT
I prefer to place my trust in scientists who DO NOT forget how to fly to the moon.
imagine placing your entire belief in people who "Lost" the tech to land on the moon
By the way I'm not even making the case we should be gutting our economy to fix the climate. But maybe we shouldn't be shitting on renewables. The US literally doesn't know how to make batteries as well as China, it's pathetic
I prefer to place my trust in our Lord Jesus Christ
Amen to that. ;)
But... muh sciences!
You raciss!
Something, something. :D
[insert triggered liberal response below]
Trexller
07-28-2023, 08:36 PM
By the way I'm not even making the case we should be gutting our economy to fix the climate. But maybe we shouldn't be shitting on renewables. The US literally doesn't know how to make batteries as well as China, it's pathetic
renewable energy absolutely has to be pursued
but the thing is it has nearly zero chance to replace fossil fuels, we need those sources on top of our already existing energy infrastructure.
our need for energy increases faster than our means to produce it.
wind solar etc don't have a chance to replace coal, gas, nuclear because these sources don't scale up fast and are weather dependent.
Nuclear is by a wide margain the greenest source of energy we have ever invented, but everyone is afraid of it because they are uneducated and scared of their own shadow.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:37 PM
By the way I'm not even making the case we should be gutting our economy to fix the climate. But maybe we shouldn't be shitting on renewables. The US literally doesn't know how to make batteries as well as China, it's pathetic
We SHOULD be tackling pollution
It's pollution in the air from the millions of democrats fleeing california to come live in my state sitting on top of us in the valley air, that's going to kill me with lung cancer long before the climate can do shit to me
When your news updates on your computer are giving pollution warnings every other week, you might have a problem
When your THC Doctor reminds you that just living here is the equivalent to smoking part of a pack of cigarettes per day, you might have a problem
Reducing pollution is one thing that myself as a reasonable person who mostly cares about my life here and now due to not having dependents, will get behind
Origen
07-28-2023, 08:37 PM
I believe America and many other nations and organizations have the technology required to return to the Moon and I hope to see it happen on television before I die, even if it's some insufferable billionaire's vanity project
Landroval
07-28-2023, 08:40 PM
Btw, anyone who is morbidly obese has no right to talk about climate change whatsoever. The effect of consuming disproportionately larger biomass with it's necessary logistics in transporting the food, storing the food within temperature controls, and growing the food is exponentially increasing of ones carbon footprint. Being fat has a direct correlation to ones carbon footprint, so if you're fat, you have no right to talk about global warming.
Origen
07-28-2023, 08:41 PM
We SHOULD be tackling pollution
It's pollution in the air from the millions of democrats fleeing california to come live in my state sitting on top of us in the valley air, that's going to kill me with lung cancer long before the climate can do shit to me
When your news updates on your computer are giving pollution warnings every other week, you might have a problem
When your THC Doctor reminds you that just living here is the equivalent to smoking part of a pack of cigarettes per day, you might have a problem
Reducing pollution is one thing that myself as a reasonable person who mostly cares about my life here and now due to not having dependents, will get behindAre you saying that democrats cause an inordinate amount of air pollution, or do you mean like, population density and more total cars on the road?
Yea we didn't forget how to go to the moon lol, the US lost interest and stomach for the funding. Later moon landings didn't even make primetime national television.
We SHOULD be tackling pollution
It's pollution in the air from the millions of democrats fleeing california to come live in my state sitting on top of us in the valley air, that's going to kill me with lung cancer long before the climate can do shit to me
When your news updates on your computer are giving pollution warnings every other week, you might have a problem
When your THC Doctor reminds you that just living here is the equivalent to smoking part of a pack of cigarettes per day, you might have a problem
Reducing pollution is one thing that myself as a reasonable person who mostly cares about my life here and now due to not having dependents, will get behind
^ I agree, and we badly dropped the ball with nuclear power
Big Letters Mean IM RIGHT
I prefer to place my trust in scientists who DO NOT forget how to fly to the moon.
imagine placing your entire belief in people who "Lost" the tech to land on the moon
Lol, that is interesting, isn't it? Hmm... :D
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unsunghero
07-28-2023, 08:43 PM
Are you saying that democrats cause an inordinate amount of air pollution, or do you mean like, population density and more total cars on the road?
No, just that we already had too many people here in too small a space, now with thousands more coming
Btw, anyone who is morbidly obese has no right to talk about climate change whatsoever. The effect of consuming disproportionately larger biomass with it's necessary logistics in transporting the food, storing the food within temperature controls, and growing the food is exponentially increasing of ones carbon footprint. Being fat has a direct correlation to ones carbon footprint, so if you're fat, you have no right to talk about global warming.
Being fat blows, but individual carbon footprints pale in comparison to policy and industrial-scale practices. Trying to get people to focus on their own carbon footprint has been an effective policy of distraction to keep people from focusing where change is most effective, such as limiting coal and changing infrastructure design.
See: plastic recycling
Trexller
07-28-2023, 08:46 PM
maybe democrats are really just pissed off that they have to use gasoline engines for farm equipment instead of black people
they are still salty since they lost the war to keep black people in chains
No, just that we already had too many people here in too small a space, now with thousands more coming
Yall are fucked when the Colorado runs dry
Landroval
07-28-2023, 08:46 PM
Being fat blows, but individual carbon footprints pale in comparison to policy and industrial-scale practices. Trying to get people to focus on their own carbon footprint has been an effective policy of distraction to keep people from focusing where change is most effective, such as limiting coal and changing infrastructure design.
See: plastic recycling
No they don't. When you overconsume on the individual level, en masse, like Fat America does, you place an increasing supply burden AND profit motive in front of these big bad industries you're scapegoating in this post
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 08:46 PM
Btw, anyone who is morbidly obese has no right to talk about climate change whatsoever. The effect of consuming disproportionately larger biomass with it's necessary logistics in transporting the food, storing the food within temperature controls, and growing the food is exponentially increasing of ones carbon footprint. Being fat has a direct correlation to ones carbon footprint, so if you're fat, you have no right to talk about global warming.
Shelf-stable calorie dense foods.
Trexller
07-28-2023, 08:47 PM
Yall are fucked when the Colorado runs dry
western USA water management in hilarious to me
"Let's grow millions of acres of farmland, in the desert!!"
Origen
07-28-2023, 08:47 PM
No, just that we already had too many people here in too small a space, now with thousands more comingWell, that sorta thing is only gonna get worse I guess. I don't really see that changing direction unless there's a change in consumer culture. Cars are only gonna get so small, public transportation development is a civic nightmare, and a lot of Americans seem like castle doctrine weirdos about lands and lawns.
Not that I like randos in my backyard, either
Landroval
07-28-2023, 08:50 PM
Shelf-stable calorie dense foods.
Like high fructose corn syrup? Transporting, processing, packaging, and distributing that shit is not carbon neutral at all. However, violating HOA rules to grow vegetables in your yard instead of grass is. You can even have chicken scavenging in it
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 08:57 PM
Like high fructose corn syrup? Transporting, processing, packaging, and distributing that shit is not carbon neutral at all. However, violating HOA rules to grow vegetables in your yard instead of grass is. You can even have chicken scavenging in it
I wager it's less of a footprint than produced chicken.
Gotta real thoroughly hose down the abattoir every night, for example.
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 09:04 PM
It's scandals like these that worry me about researchers and university alum throwing studies and jargon at people as proof of needing funding or theories or what not
ESPECIALLY those with surprising, sensationalistic, or provacitive results
People can get so good at manipulating data that they can get away with it for years if not forever, likely in some cases
I am actually far more likely to trust a study that comes with a conclusion like "this is all really minor stuff, it's not a big deal". Versus one that comes with a conclusion "THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Tm3Yx4HWI
Elizondo
07-28-2023, 09:05 PM
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Trexller
07-28-2023, 09:07 PM
Yep, you can't fuckin trust anybody
and yet, everyone expects to be trusted and is flabbergasted when you don't believe them
Trexller
07-28-2023, 09:09 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4vRohFWkAAiUSq.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/13/13/13430854-7022561-image-m-19_1557750000900.jpg
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 09:11 PM
Yep, you can't fuckin trust anybody
and yet, everyone expects to be trusted and is flabbergasted when you don't believe them
It's just that cheating is everywhere. It's in sports, it's in chess, it's in literally everything
Why wouldn't be cheating or corner cutting be in scientific research?
I don't think there is enough emphasis in academia on the scope of cheating and classes on how to catch it within a particular field
Right now Cybersecurity is one of the most sought after tech careers, but yet catching cheating, security in other endeavors, isn't
aussenseiter
07-28-2023, 09:13 PM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22460&d=1690592675
Eastern Europe had the highest heat-related excess death rate and Sub-Saharan Africa had the highest cold-related excess death rate.
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oic
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4vRohFWkAAiUSq.jpg
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How can anyone deny how deadly Global Cooling is! :D
unsunghero
07-28-2023, 09:16 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4vRohFWkAAiUSq.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/13/13/13430854-7022561-image-m-19_1557750000900.jpg
You think partisan Snopes and PolitiDemocrats fact checked that one?
To this day those 2 organizations are still too dumb to realize they show their obvious political bias by selectivity in who and what they choose to scrutinize
Trexller
07-28-2023, 09:22 PM
It's just that cheating is everywhere. It's in sports, it's in chess, it's in literally everything
Why wouldn't be cheating or corner cutting be in scientific research?
I don't think there is enough emphasis in academia on the scope of cheating and classes on how to catch it within a particular field
Right now Cybersecurity is one of the most sought after tech careers, but yet catching cheating, security in other endeavors, isn't
oh yeah if you ever want to figure out why some weird shit is going on, always follow the money.
cybersecurity is the modern vault, the safe in which we store our valuables, so of course it's going to be taken seriously.
scientists basically get funded with money that nobody else needed or wanted, so naturally they are going to cheat on their research because if they came out and told the truth then next year they won't receive grants and charity funding
like any other type of discretionary spending, scientific research is an emotional effort like giving money to charities or non-profits
shit we should start looking into charities for the homeless or africa, i bet you'll find serious efforts to make sure they stay poor forever
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