NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[unsunghero]

There are times when the law does the right thing and the wrong thing, or right thing wrong reason, wrong thing right reason.

And he's orange, not white.

Happens to do the “right” thing when it arrests your political opponents and the wrong thing when it arrests people who vote democrat

Yea I get it

[Landroval]

Wait, what the fuck even is SB5599?

The right for youth for “safe” shelter?

I get so sick of complete misuse of the word “safe”. We already have agencies in place to shelter a child from an unsafe home, which is CPS. So this bill seems to be clearly trying to circumvent the CPS investigative process, and fudge the living shit out of the word “safe” to allow kids to essentially have parental rights severed without the necessary abuse/neglect qualifications, aka no CPS investigation

Remember, all someone has to do to manipulate the living shit out of the left is say “I don’t feel ‘safe’”

Such a sick abuse of language

Some perspective to consider;

Somewhere in the conceptualization of the proposal there is a genuine intent is to protect homosexual children from cuttingly sharp parental abuse. You have to assume there are cases where there are kids relentlessly tormented by parents with a viciously hateful countenance towards homosexuality.

Ultimately, gay people exist in this somewhere too, but there's a difference between "coming to accept" the homosexuality of your child, and attempting to (brow)beat the gay out of them; but this should already be protected under the extant child abuse laws.

[aussenseiter]

When I confess there's no truth, demons remain sleepless in-love with blood starved souls forgotten.

Between birth and death lies will whisper deepest divide before the living

Lies do fashion with the images of angelic faces.

If grown into a stillness, we will respond lies.

The truth laid out to way? Rest well ... die cold

I know the method lips drawn wide to turn and bow

To smile, behind the biting thumb.

Each of us dance well in lies, the hand, the handle and the sword.

(meh D4 is down)

ZvMrWqTS28I

[Botten]

<Fluff...>

If there is no such thing as Truth, there is also no such thing as a lie; and that is demonstrably false.

(Waiting for the servers to stop lagging sure... I will bite..)

Not necessarily true and can be considered logically flawed.

In reality, truth and falsehood are fundamental concepts that exist independently of our beliefs or perceptions. Truth refers to the state of being in accordance with facts or reality, while a lie is intentionally making a false statement with the intent to deceive.

The assertion that there is no such thing as Truth implies that there are no objective facts or reality, which would mean that everything is subjective and there are no absolute standards for determining what is true or false. However, this claim contradicts itself since the statement itself is presented as a truth claim.

If there were no objective truth, then the concept of a lie would lose its meaning as well. Without a standard of truth, it would be difficult to define what constitutes a lie because there would be no objective reality to compare against.

In practice, truth and falsehood are crucial elements in communication, ethics, science, and many other areas of human existence. While perspectives and interpretations may vary, objective truths do exist, and lies are identifiable when statements deviate from those truths with an intent to deceive.

[unsunghero]

Another problem with SB5599, is that if a child is removed from an “unsafe” home by CPS, there is a nationally accepted policy of attempting to do a “kinship placement” and put the kid with extended family members because, we at least USED to recognize the importance of keeping kids within their own family

Now I guess the policy is to put them in some secret shelter and do medical experiments on them. Fuckin dystopia man

[Elizondo]

Here let me help you:

https://grdiocese.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/proposal-3-reproductive-freedom-constitutional-amendment-language.pdf

(1) Every individual has a fundamental right to reproductive freedom, which entails the right to make and effectuate decisions about all matters relating to pregnancy, including but not limited to prenatal care, childbirth, postpartum care, contraception, sterilization (Puberty Blockers), abortion care, miscarriage management, and infertility care.

An individual’s right to reproductive freedom shall not be denied, burdened, nor infringed upon unless justified by a compelling state interest achieved by the least restrictive means.

If you can find the distinction between adult and minor in any of that language I'll wait

[Landroval]

Persuasion is an art of deception; upon first glance, it appears to be a form of "argumentation" but it is NOT. For Argumentation seeks to arrive at conflict, whereas persuasion seeks to arrive at leading the other to be convinced that there is and was no conflict or disagreement to begin with.

Persuasion says, we both like sunshine, and water, and pleasant things; these little contrivances we can discuss at later time, perhaps over a cup of tea, but let us agree, for now, we are the same.

[unsunghero]

I’ve had kids tell me that they are so mad at their parent for whatever reason (usually things like not letting them hang out with a particular friend group, date a particular person, or takes their electronics away) that they plan to call CPS and lie that their parent is abusing them to try to get taken away. Of course with everything being confidential I can’t even warn the parent that CPS is going to be getting involved with them soon

So what’s stopping a kid, if that bill got passed, from not liking their parent for whatever reason, and recognizing that these shelters are a way to get away, and then just agreeing to all the other questions about gender dysphoria because they know that’s what will allow them to stay there

Kids are so naive some would be willing to have medical experiments done on them, if it means they don’t have to live with mean mom who won’t let them play Fortnite. And you just know these shelters are going to be staffed with queer counselors and clinicians just salivating at the opportunity to help another “trans” kid experience their true self

Fucking scary, I hope this bill doesn’t pass. With parental consent is bad enough, without is monstrously bad

[Botten]

Here let me help you:

https://grdiocese.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/proposal-3-reproductive-freedom-constitutional-amendment-language.pdf

(1) Every individual has a fundamental right to reproductive freedom, which entails the right to make and effectuate decisions about all matters relating to pregnancy, including but not limited to prenatal care, childbirth, postpartum care, contraception, sterilization (Puberty Blockers), abortion care, miscarriage management, and infertility care.

An individual’s right to reproductive freedom shall not be denied, burdened, nor infringed upon unless justified by a compelling state interest achieved by the least restrictive means.

If you can find the distinction between adult and minor in any of that language I'll wait

You are taking liberties to fit your agenda by putting in parenthesizes (puberty blockers).

but your addition to the interpretation would also be false.

Taking puberty blockers alone should not affect your ability to have a baby in the future.

What you are talking about is hormone therapy. But I won't fault you since you are drinking the Christian disinformation koolaid found none other than here:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/puberty-blockers-cross-sex-hormones-do-sterilize-minors-childrens-hospital-consent-documents-show.html

Like I said before GOP politicians are desperately trying to re-energize the Christian base for this election period. Sadly they just don't have the foreign troll power in misinformation they had in 2016. Probably because of that pesky war going on.

[Botten]

Persuasion is an art of deception; upon first glance, it appears to be a form of "argumentation" but it is NOT. For Argumentation seeks to arrive at conflict, whereas persuasion seeks to arrive at leading the other to be convinced that there is and was no conflict or disagreement to begin with.

Persuasion says, we both like sunshine, and water, and pleasant things; these little contrivances we can discuss at later time, perhaps over a cup of tea, but let us agree, for now, we are the same.

We could but lets have more fun and venture forward. Shall we!


The statement you've made is an interesting perspective on the difference between persuasion and argumentation, but it may not entirely capture the essence of these concepts.

While it is true that persuasion and argumentation have distinct goals and approaches, they are not necessarily mutually exclusive, and their boundaries can be fluid in different contexts.

Persuasion is indeed a form of communication aimed at influencing someone's beliefs, attitudes, or behaviors. It seeks to create agreement or convince the other person that a particular viewpoint is valid. In persuasion, the emphasis is often on emotional appeals, credibility, and the use of various techniques to make the audience more receptive to the message.

On the other hand, argumentation is a process of presenting reasoning and evidence to support a claim or conclusion. Its primary goal is to arrive at a logical resolution to a disagreement or conflicting viewpoints. Argumentation relies on logic, evidence, and critical thinking to build a persuasive case.

While it's true that persuasive communication might try to downplay or conceal areas of disagreement, and argumentation typically addresses and resolves those conflicts directly, they can overlap. In some cases, persuasion might be used within an argumentative framework to make the case more compelling. Conversely, persuasive communication can be part of an argumentative strategy to convince the other party to accept the conclusion reached through reasoning and evidence.

In conclusion, persuasion and argumentation share similarities, but they have distinct aims and approaches. Persuasion is more about convincing someone to adopt a particular viewpoint or take a specific action, while argumentation is about resolving disagreements through reasoning and evidence. Nevertheless, they can complement each other, and both are valuable tools in various communication contexts.

[Origen]

Happens to do the “right” thing when it arrests your political opponents and the wrong thing when it arrests people who vote democrat

Yea I get itIt's not blanket support of a given agency, and I generally don't like the law, but I can enjoy schadenfreude same as any fella. The people I oppose fight one another sometimes. Most of the time, though, they have been cooperating.

I don't know who is getting arrested for voting democrat, that kind of stuff won't happen until at least 2026 if republicans win in 2024

[unsunghero]

It's not blanket support of a given agency, and I generally don't like the law, but I can enjoy schadenfreude same as any fella. The people I oppose fight one another sometimes. Most of the time, though, they have been cooperating.

I don't know who is getting arrested for voting democrat, that kind of stuff won't happen until at least 2026 if republicans win in 2024

Who does not mean for. When I say arrested who vote democrat, that doesn’t mean arrested FOR voting democrat

Dems still think certain communities are filled with perfect angels out just trying to play basketball and the racist pig cops roll up and throw them all into slave labor

That’s their take on the legal system. Almost NEVER does one admit that the system does work fairly at times, and always, just like you just did, when it’s about the arrest of a GOP member

That’s the hypocrisy

[aussenseiter]

I’ve had kids tell me that they are so mad at their parent for whatever reason (usually things like not letting them hang out with a particular friend group, date a particular person, or takes their electronics away) that they plan to call CPS and lie that their parent is abusing them to try to get taken away. Of course with everything being confidential I can’t even warn the parent that CPS is going to be getting involved with them soon

So what’s stopping a kid, if that bill got passed, from not liking their parent for whatever reason, and recognizing that these shelters are a way to get away, and then just agreeing to all the other questions about gender dysphoria because they know that’s what will allow them to stay there

Kids are so naive some would be willing to have medical experiments done on them, if it means they don’t have to live with mean mom who won’t let them play Fortnite. And you just know these shelters are going to be staffed with queer counselors and clinicians just salivating at the opportunity to help another “trans” kid experience their true self

Fucking scary, I hope this bill doesn’t pass. With parental consent is bad enough, without is monstrously bad

It passed a long time ago my dude.

They called a special session after to decide if drugs were illegal. I think they said heroin is a misdemeanor.

I like it here but we're kinda retarded.

[unsunghero]

It passed a long time ago my dude.

They called a special session after to decide if drugs were illegal. I think they said heroin is a misdemeanor.

I like it here but we're kinda retarded.

You talking about the bill that lets kids run away to gov’t shelters to be experimented upon without a CPS investigation? What the hell does heroin have to do with it?

[aussenseiter]

We could but lets have more fun and venture forward. Shall we!


The statement you've made is an interesting perspective on the difference between persuasion and argumentation, but it may not entirely capture the essence of these concepts.

While it is true that persuasion and argumentation have distinct goals and approaches, they are not necessarily mutually exclusive, and their boundaries can be fluid in different contexts.

Persuasion is indeed a form of communication aimed at influencing someone's beliefs, attitudes, or behaviors. It seeks to create agreement or convince the other person that a particular viewpoint is valid. In persuasion, the emphasis is often on emotional appeals, credibility, and the use of various techniques to make the audience more receptive to the message.

On the other hand, argumentation is a process of presenting reasoning and evidence to support a claim or conclusion. Its primary goal is to arrive at a logical resolution to a disagreement or conflicting viewpoints. Argumentation relies on logic, evidence, and critical thinking to build a persuasive case.

While it's true that persuasive communication might try to downplay or conceal areas of disagreement, and argumentation typically addresses and resolves those conflicts directly, they can overlap. In some cases, persuasion might be used within an argumentative framework to make the case more compelling. Conversely, persuasive communication can be part of an argumentative strategy to convince the other party to accept the conclusion reached through reasoning and evidence.

In conclusion, persuasion and argumentation share similarities, but they have distinct aims and approaches. Persuasion is more about convincing someone to adopt a particular viewpoint or take a specific action, while argumentation is about resolving disagreements through reasoning and evidence. Nevertheless, they can complement each other, and both are valuable tools in various communication contexts.

Chatbot posts are cheating.

https://media.tenor.com/ivGd-6C-ZsUAAAAM/squirt-bottle.gif

[aussenseiter]

You talking about the bill that lets kids run away to gov’t shelters to be experimented upon without a CPS investigation? What the hell does heroin have to do with it?

Our state supreme court declared drug possession laws unconstitutional I think 2 or 3 years ago.

WA be wilin out

[unsunghero]

Our state supreme court declared drug possession laws unconstitutional I think 2 or 3 years ago.

WA be wilin out

Meh

The majority of drug users, even hard drug users, are what’s called recreational users or functional addicts. This means they can use the drug to a point where it doesn’t ruin all their relationships or get them fired from their job or kill them

I personally have no problem with a functional user of any drug (other than the moral issue of funding the cartels), even the most hard. So I would support not trying to persecute those people

But when your drug use is a direct factor in your attacking random people, stealing to fund your drug habit, not being able to support public places remaining hygienic and instead be shitting on the streets (there is such a thing as homeless and tidy, it can exist, just usually not for hard drug users), then absolutely the legal system should force you into rehab

That’s always been my take on that

[Botten]

Chatbot posts are cheating.



or Heaven Sent.

https://www.framerated.co.uk/frwpcontent/uploads/2015/11/drwho911-978x652.jpg

[unsunghero]

Persuasion is manipulation, and arguing is two people yelling over each other and not letting each other finish

3rd party Moderated debate is the best way to have a discussion about provocative issues

No chatGPT required

[Origen]

Dems still think certain communities are filled with perfect angels out just trying to play basketball and the racist pig cops roll up and throw them all into slave labor

That’s their take on the legal system. Almost NEVER does one admit that the system does work fairly at times, and always, just like you just did, when it’s about the arrest of a GOP member

That’s the hypocrisyAlways with the two right wing political parties. You're so eager to be mad you missed the part where I said the thing you claim we never say, the system does work fairly sometimes.

Make your assumptions, and get mad about the hypocrisy in those assumptions, if you want. Seems like you're getting your takes on Democrats exclusively from angry right-wing sources. We are living in those communities you are describing from the outside.

[aussenseiter]

Always with the two right wing political parties. You're so eager to be mad you missed the part where I said the thing you claim we never say, the system does work fairly sometimes.

Make your assumptions, and get mad about the hypocrisy in those assumptions, if you want. Seems like you're getting your takes on Democrats exclusively from angry right-wing sources. We are living in those communities you are describing from the outside.

Do you have another theory of value besides the labor one that is clearly retarded?

[unsunghero]

Always with the two right wing political parties. You're so eager to be mad you missed the part where I said the thing you claim we never say, the system does work fairly sometimes.

Make your assumptions, and get mad about the hypocrisy in those assumptions, if you want. Seems like you're getting your takes on Democrats exclusively from angry right-wing sources. We are living in those communities you are describing from the outside.

I do it just to get admittances from you that the legal system works fairly, even if it’s for your purpose of trying to always argue, sort of a reverse psychology sort of tactic I guess

That kind of sentiment about the legal system certainly won’t make you popular in the democrat, er sorry everything is right wing to you, the left most right wing party. I would not recommend saying it while in the poorer parts of where you live, but I doubt you would ever say it publicly anyway, because as I said it’s most likely just an attempt to argue

[unsunghero]

Here’s another example of the legal system working fairly

Looks like he finally burned bridges with whatever connections had been shielding him for the the past 2 years

Was a fucking joke that one of the only people actually caught on camera telling everyone to storm the capital got off Scott free for years because reasons

Dem publications going to bat for him was all the proof we needed that he had Democrat connects (emphasis on “had”, or else he’s a fall guy now)

[Elizondo]

You are taking liberties to fit your agenda by putting in parenthesizes (puberty blockers).

but your addition to the interpretation would also be false.

Taking puberty blockers alone should not affect your ability to have a baby in the future.

What you are talking about is hormone therapy. But I won't fault you since you are drinking the Christian disinformation koolaid found none other than here:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/puberty-blockers-cross-sex-hormones-do-sterilize-minors-childrens-hospital-consent-documents-show.html

Like I said before GOP politicians are desperately trying to re-energize the Christian base for this election period. Sadly they just don't have the foreign troll power in misinformation they had in 2016. Probably because of that pesky war going on.

(1) Every individual has a fundamental right to reproductive freedom, which entails the right to make and effectuate decisions about all matters relating to pregnancy, including but not limited to prenatal care, childbirth, postpartum care, contraception, sterilization, abortion care, miscarriage management, and infertility care.

I didn't write the bill. Democrats did with Planned Parenthood.

The same Planned Parenthood that offers abortion services AND Transgender "services"

I don't understand why you are trying to pretend this doesn't exist or doesn't say what it says quite plainly. The people you are simping for have no qualms or moral uneasiness about performing these procedures on minors without parental consent.

"Body Autonomy" will be used as the gateway. From this same rationalization of Body Autonomy, Pedophilia will soon be pushed for normalization. it's already happening. When it does, you will not be opposed to it. I guarantee it.

I think there is a tiny speck of something deep inside you that may still resemble a conscious or some sense of moral barriers that should never be crossed, so when faced with this obvious conundrum you choose see no evil hear no evil instead of being a man and standing up to it and resisting it

[unsunghero]

"Body Autonomy" will be used as the gateway

Hmm

My guess is it will be “I don’t feel safe” [without the procedure]. Safety will always trump someone’s wants about their body

[Landroval]

Do you have another theory of value besides the labor one that is clearly retarded?

What incentive does international finance have in investing in a commune that does not produce surplus, at zero interest?

[aussenseiter]

What incentive does international finance have in investing in a commune that does not produce surplus, at zero interest?

None because cults are unprofitable.

[Elizondo]

5UWIyGDnHmk

[Landroval]

None because cults are unprofitable.

5624. óphelimos ►
Strong's Concordance
óphelimos: useful, profitable
Original Word: ὠφέλιμος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: óphelimos
Phonetic Spelling: (o-fel'-ee-mos)
Definition: useful, profitable
Usage: profitable, beneficial, useful

[unsunghero]

Speaking of arguments vs persuasion, I’m sure everyone here understands this simple quick point

And chooses to ignore it because it was never about changing minds, it was about trying to dunk. Expand that reason to the rest of the internet and it still remains true

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/uhHYhWQzINQ

[Botten]

I didn't write the bill. Democrats did with Planned Parenthood.

The same Planned Parenthood that offers abortion services AND Transgender "services"

I don't understand why you are trying to pretend this doesn't exist or doesn't say what it says quite plainly. The people you are simping for have no qualms or moral uneasiness about performing these procedures on minors without parental consent.

"Body Autonomy" will be used as the gateway. From this same rationalization of Body Autonomy, Pedophilia will soon be pushed for normalization. it's already happening. When it does, you will not be opposed to it. I guarantee it.

I think there is a tiny speck of something deep inside you that may still resemble a conscious or some sense of moral barriers that should never be crossed, so when faced with this obvious conundrum you choose see no evil hear no evil instead of being a man and standing up to it and resisting it

-Parental consent is necessary on the medical procedures you are complaining about (regardless of your interpretation of Body Autonomy)

-Michigan’s abortion amendment on sterilization can not be stretched to include puberty blockers (furthermore puberty blockers don’t sterilize)

-Trans people have nothing to do with whether a person becomes a pedophile; if it did you would see a lot more places where we are finding pedophiles.
Do you find a lot of Priests are Trans or lust for Trans?

-Gender Dysphoria is real, Michigan Conversion Therapy is evil.

[Elizondo]

-Parental consent is necessary on the medical procedures you are complaining about (regardless of your interpretation of Body Autonomy)

-Michigan’s abortion amendment on sterilization can not be stretched to include puberty blockers (furthermore puberty blockers don’t sterilize)

Yes it can and it will. When it is used for that purpose you'll excuse that to. You'll pretend like this conversation never happened and you'll run to some DailyKos link that tells everyone everything is fine. Nothing is see here. We got it.

The language is clear. There is no distinction.

Trans people have nothing to do with whether a person becomes a pedophile; if it did you would see a lot more places where we are finding pedophiles.
Do you find a lot of Priests are Trans or lust for Trans?

-Gender Dysphoria is real, Michigan Conversion Therapy is evil.

I didn't say it did. You lack reading comprehension.

[Homesteaded]

-Michigan’s abortion amendment on sterilization can not be stretched to include puberty blockers (furthermore puberty blockers don’t sterilize)

Double Post

[Ooloo]

Well see puberty blockers "don't sterilize" except for all the times they do, but since sometimes they don't that means they don't!

-botten logic

[Homesteaded]

-Parental consent is necessary on the medical procedures you are complaining about (regardless of your interpretation of Body Autonomy)

https://sd11.senate.ca.gov/news/20220930-senator-wiener%E2%80%99s-historic-bill-provide-refuge-trans-kids-and-their-families-signed-law

Unless the parent isn't for it, then CA will protect the kid and bar out of state subpoenas. Meaning, the kid can run to CA to get his cock chopped off and CA will protect the child. It's obvious if you read the language.

-Michigan’s abortion amendment on sterilization can not be stretched to include puberty blockers (furthermore puberty blockers don’t sterilize)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626312/

"Suppression of puberty with gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist analogs (GnRHa) in the pediatric transgender patient can pause the maturation of germ cells, and thus, affect fertility potential."


-Gender Dysphoria is real, Michigan Conversion Therapy is evil.

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/CommitteeDocuments/362/22848/03%2014%202023%20Testimony%20of%20Matt%20Sharp.pdf

"In fact, multiple long-term studies show that when young children who
experience gender dysphoria are allowed to mature naturally, most of them—over 90 percent
according to some sources—grow out of their dysphoria."

[Origen]

Do you have another theory of value besides the labor one that is clearly retarded?This is the laziest post I have ever seen you make, two days two disappointments

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Has this thread realized that science doesn't stop yet? We got three points to make here:

1) Francis Bacon argued, in 1620, that if we applied the "new method" (what the scientific method was called at first) the world would change. Previously, Bacon argued, people who pursued "knowledge" were in their own world and unless we were talking warfare, their pursuits simply were not connected to necessarily "practical" purposes.

Bacon argued, that needed to end. All knowledge possesses practical value, so the new method was nothing more than inquiry into knowledge that was also useful for us. So, arguing about how many angels could dance on a pin became patently stupid.

At this point I've exceeded the p99 word count but I never gie a fuck and suffer you fucking illiterate and low-A miscreants.

The "new method" established as the new norm what we now see as just how the system works: knowledge always produces inventions.


2) Bacon also predicted (correctly) that, as science is turned to create inventions (tools, aka technology) the speed with which we make discoveries and new inventions will increase over time. Bacon argued this growth rate would be near exponential.

He was 100% correct. In the past 200 years we have invented more things than the entire history of our species combined. Let me give a partial list of some of the marvels:


Nuclear explosives
Fentanyl
Crack
Hormone candy store
guided missiles from space that only use kinetic force to spear their target.
Lots of space stuff
Moon trip


The big point, point #3. Faced with this "Moore's Law" of technological and scientific progress, this system is not going to stop. It never stops. Human beings are incredibly powerful. But there is one thing they CANNOT do: not invent and use what they have the ability to invent and use.

I say all this because: Things are moving so rapidly, that if these threads keep going the *original* "atrocity" that started the thread will be obsolete by post 500.

Hormone blockers are ripe. Being able to more easily turn on and off hormonal development, with few and few side effects, will probably turn Ooloo inside out by next year.

But I think you guys just like to argue about sex. It's called sublimation of libidinal energy. It's how you get sexual satisfaction without actually having any sex.

Near as I can tell, this is a sex dungeon and Botten is the dom. I came. I jawed. I'm bonkers.

[Botten]

Well see puberty blockers "don't sterilize" except for all the times they do, but since sometimes they don't that means they don't!

-botten logic

See this is the miscommunication you are being fed and you are falling for in your consulting echo chambers.

I highly suggest you stop listening to Ben Shapiro or in the case of Christen sites disinformation trying to link puberty blockers to hormonal therapies from governmental site.

But note, puberty blockers are temporary (https://www.stlouischildrens.org/conditions-treatments/transgender-center/puberty-blockers):

Injectable blockers (such as Lupron) can last one, three or six months. Patients can continue getting injections until they decide what to do next.

Implants (such Supprelin), which are placed just under the skin in the arm, can last 12 to 24 months before they need to be replaced.

Both types are meant to give patients more time to consider their options.

If one decides to continue transitioning, they will likely want to consider hormone therapy and possibly gender affirming surgery.

[Botten]

Yes it can and it will. When it is used for that purpose you'll excuse that to. You'll pretend like this conversation never happened and you'll run to some DailyKos link that tells everyone everything is fine. Nothing is see here. We got it.

The language is clear. There is no distinction.



I didn't say it did. You lack reading comprehension.

- You call a lot of news sites fake news
- Yes, Parental permission is needed before any of the surgical procedures you have mentioned.
- Your example was Michigan. In reality Michigan is looking to get rid of Conversion Theory and there is no specific addition implementing Gender Dysphoria therapy -
(Conspiracies aside, even if there was making this MUCH of a transition isn't going to be overnight.)

I get it both sides are doing it.

You are simply responding to a knee jerking response to re-energize the Christian base to vote in these states where the left is adding the question of legalized abortion to the state elections is doing the same.

Either way social norms have to be fought by moral concerns to ease the society into progress.

I guess going full stop is agitating.

[Homesteaded]

So you just believe the science I cite is Christian fundamentalism. I'm sure the longer you use these the higher likelihood that they cause infertility. So sure, they don't automatically sterilize you, I'll concede that ground. Much like taking Heroin one time won't ruin your life, would you then claim that Heroin won't ruin your life and offer it to anyone who wants to try it?

[Homesteaded]

Has this thread realized that science doesn't stop yet? We got three points to make here:

1) Francis Bacon argued, in 1620, that if we applied the "new method" (what the scientific method was called at first) the world would change. Previously, Bacon argued, people who pursued "knowledge" were in their own world and unless we were talking warfare, their pursuits simply were not connected to necessarily "practical" purposes.

Bacon argued, that needed to end. All knowledge possesses practical value, so the new method was nothing more than inquiry into knowledge that was also useful for us. So, arguing about how many angels could dance on a pin became patently stupid.

At this point I've exceeded the p99 word count but I never gie a fuck and suffer you fucking illiterate and low-A miscreants.

The "new method" established as the new norm what we now see as just how the system works: knowledge always produces inventions.


2) Bacon also predicted (correctly) that, as science is turned to create inventions (tools, aka technology) the speed with which we make discoveries and new inventions will increase over time. Bacon argued this growth rate would be near exponential.

He was 100% correct. In the past 200 years we have invented more things than the entire history of our species combined. Let me give a partial list of some of the marvels:


Nuclear explosives
Fentanyl
Crack
Hormone candy store
guided missiles from space that only use kinetic force to spear their target.
Lots of space stuff
Moon trip


The big point, point #3. Faced with this "Moore's Law" of technological and scientific progress, this system is not going to stop. It never stops. Human beings are incredibly powerful. But there is one thing they CANNOT do: not invent and use what they have the ability to invent and use.

I say all this because: Things are moving so rapidly, that if these threads keep going the *original* "atrocity" that started the thread will be obsolete by post 500.

Hormone blockers are ripe. Being able to more easily turn on and off hormonal development, with few and few side effects, will probably turn Ooloo inside out by next year.

But I think you guys just like to argue about sex. It's called sublimation of libidinal energy. It's how you get sexual satisfaction without actually having any sex.

Near as I can tell, this is a sex dungeon and Botten is the dom. I came. I jawed. I'm bonkers.


Botten is a levelled up edge lord atheist. That's it.

Have you heard of the black ball in the urn of inventions theory? Do you believe it to be true?

[Botten]

Separating this -

-Gender Dysphoria is real, Michigan Conversion Therapy is evil.
https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/CommitteeDocuments/362/22848/03%2014%202023%20Testimony%20of%20Matt%20Sharp.pdf

"In fact, multiple long-term studies show that when young children who
experience gender dysphoria are allowed to mature naturally, most of them—over 90 percent
according to some sources—grow out of their dysphoria."

"Conversion therapy" or "reparative therapy" that claim to change an individual's gender identity or sexual orientation. These practices have been widely discredited by major medical and mental health organizations as harmful and unethical and should be avoided.

You are referencing a case pushed by a right group giving dubious information on a study by Dr. Kenneth Zucker.

You need to note that there was rejection of Dr. Zucker's Conclusions: Several major medical and psychological organizations, such as the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), have rejected the use of Dr. Zucker's work to justify practices that discourage or change the gender identity of gender-diverse children.

Simply put, for children and adolescents experiencing gender dysphoria, some therapeutic isn't just Chemical it includes:

-Affirmative Therapy: Providing a supportive and understanding environment where the child's gender identity is validated can be essential. This approach helps reduce feelings of shame and stigma and allows the child to explore their identity in a safe and non-judgmental space.

-Family Therapy: Involving family members can be beneficial, as their support is crucial for the well-being of the child. Family therapy can help family members better understand gender dysphoria and learn how to support their child effectively.

-Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (CBT): CBT can be helpful for managing distress related to gender dysphoria. It focuses on changing thought patterns and behaviors that contribute to distress, improving coping skills, and enhancing resilience.

In extreme cases -
-Puberty Blockers: For some adolescents experiencing intense gender dysphoria, puberty blockers may be considered. These medications temporarily delay the onset of puberty, providing the individual with more time to explore their gender identity before irreversible physical changes occur.

Where quality of life has definitely been assured by professionals:
-Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT): For transgender individuals who have reached an appropriate age and are eligible, hormone therapy can be initiated. For example, transgender girls may be prescribed estrogen, and transgender boys may be prescribed testosterone.

[Origen]

Botten is a levelled up edge lord atheist. That's it.

Have you heard of the black ball in the urn of inventions theory? Do you believe it to be true?The black ball was pulled centuries ago. It is excess consumption and production that is destroying the Earth's capacity to host human life. Ignoring the abundant evidence doesn't change this fact.

[Homesteaded]

NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT CONVERSION THERAPY.

We're talking about using puberty blockers and hormone therapies and the long term effects. No one here is making a claim that conversion therapy is useful, so quit bringing it up.

[Botten]

Botten is a levelled up edge lord atheist. That's it.

Have you heard of the black ball in the urn of inventions theory? Do you believe it to be true?

Society progresses on whether you like it or not. Admittedly your role is still important to ease society into the change. So thank you.

[Lune]

The black ball was pulled centuries ago. It is excess consumption and production that is destroying the Earth's capacity to host human life. Ignoring the abundant evidence doesn't change this fact.

Just drove across the country with nary a bug squashed on the front of my U-haul. Anyone else remember the front of your car getting plastered even during day trips? Streetlights with swarms of insects around them? Skies full of birds? Things are different now. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_in_insect_populations)

[Botten]

NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT CONVERSION THERAPY.

We're talking about using puberty blockers and hormone therapies and the long term effects. No one here is making a claim that conversion therapy is useful, so quit bringing it up.

It was on the subject of Michigan in recent amendment with Ez.

Curious...you have sometimes gone against the grain. J&J vaccination and allowing abortion in extreme cases... as an out spoke Christian influencer are you also against conversion therapy?

[unsunghero]

In extreme cases -
-Puberty Blockers

Extreme cases = whenever the kid asks for them

Jk, but it would be interesting to hear about case studies where a kid asked (because thanks to the internet most of these kids hear about these ahead of time) and was denied

[unsunghero]

Just drove across the country with nary a bug squashed on the front of my U-haul. Anyone else remember the front of your car getting plastered even during day trips? Streetlights with swarms of insects around them? Skies full of birds? Things are different now. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_in_insect_populations)

I’m driving 2.5 hours tomorrow to camping up north, we shall see

[aussenseiter]

The black ball was pulled centuries ago. It is excess consumption and production that is destroying the Earth's capacity to host human life. Ignoring the abundant evidence doesn't change this fact.

https://customerthink.com/wp-content/uploads/eat-here-or-we-will-both-starve.png

[Origen]

Just drove across the country with nary a bug squashed on the front of my U-haul. Anyone else remember the front of your car getting plastered even during day trips? Streetlights with swarms of insects around them? Skies full of birds? Things are different now. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_in_insect_populations)Yep, used to drive all over the swamps of south Georgia and get absolutely smeared with bugs. Now you barely need to turn on your wipers.

These clowns are wringing their hands over culture war nonsense while the ship sinks.

[Homesteaded]

It was on the subject of Michigan in recent amendment with Ez.

Curious...you have sometimes gone against the grain. J&J vaccination and allowing abortion in extreme cases... as an out spoke Christian influencer are you also against conversion therapy?

If you're talking about praying the gay away, yes I'm against that.

I also don't think homosexuality is a genetic trait. Something nearing 50% of gay men were molested as a child. Take from that what you will but I do not buy into the idea that people are born gay.

[Origen]

But I think you guys just like to argue about sex. It's called sublimation of libidinal energy. It's how you get sexual satisfaction without actually having any sex.

Near as I can tell, this is a sex dungeon and Botten is the dom. I came. I jawed. I'm bonkers.Considering how many of their other positons are, like, copy-pasted from incel Youtube, best Theory of Posting hypothesis I've seen yet.

[unsunghero]

But I think you guys just like to argue about sex. It's called sublimation of libidinal energy. It's how you get sexual satisfaction without actually having any sex.

Near as I can tell, this is a sex dungeon and Botten is the dom. I came. I jawed. I'm bonkers.

I actually derive pleasure from different sources, most at work

1. Whenever an adult trying to weaponize their suicidality to control their partner (“if you break up with me I’ll kill myself”) or their family (“if you try to kick me out for my drug use I’ll kill myself”), gets forced into an involuntary psychiatric hold at a public behavioral health hospital where they will be surrounded by psychotic meth heads

2. Whenever a kid who is very clearly trying to manipulate their supports and the BH system gets denied their ridiculous requests

3. Whenever a kid who has been controlling the household through threats towards others or property finally gets some consequences, usually in the form of losing their precious electronics. Most are so angry they are not willing to accept any support during their freaking out meltdown, so I am left to just observe it with an inward smile (maybe call the police if gets too out of hand)

Those are my little joys in life

[Landroval]

Has this thread realized that science doesn't stop yet? We got three points to make here:

1) Francis Bacon argued, in 1620, that if we applied the "new method" (what the scientific method was called at first) the world would change. Previously, Bacon argued, people who pursued "knowledge" were in their own world and unless we were talking warfare, their pursuits simply were not connected to necessarily "practical" purposes.

Bacon argued, that needed to end. All knowledge possesses practical value, so the new method was nothing more than inquiry into knowledge that was also useful for us. So, arguing about how many angels could dance on a pin became patently stupid.

At this point I've exceeded the p99 word count but I never gie a fuck and suffer you fucking illiterate and low-A miscreants.

The "new method" established as the new norm what we now see as just how the system works: knowledge always produces inventions.


2) Bacon also predicted (correctly) that, as science is turned to create inventions (tools, aka technology) the speed with which we make discoveries and new inventions will increase over time. Bacon argued this growth rate would be near exponential.

He was 100% correct. In the past 200 years we have invented more things than the entire history of our species combined. Let me give a partial list of some of the marvels:


Nuclear explosives
Fentanyl
Crack
Hormone candy store
guided missiles from space that only use kinetic force to spear their target.
Lots of space stuff
Moon trip


The big point, point #3. Faced with this "Moore's Law" of technological and scientific progress, this system is not going to stop. It never stops. Human beings are incredibly powerful. But there is one thing they CANNOT do: not invent and use what they have the ability to invent and use.

I say all this because: Things are moving so rapidly, that if these threads keep going the *original* "atrocity" that started the thread will be obsolete by post 500.

Hormone blockers are ripe. Being able to more easily turn on and off hormonal development, with few and few side effects, will probably turn Ooloo inside out by next year.

But I think you guys just like to argue about sex. It's called sublimation of libidinal energy. It's how you get sexual satisfaction without actually having any sex.

Near as I can tell, this is a sex dungeon and Botten is the dom. I came. I jawed. I'm bonkers.

Francis Bacon was a Rosicrucianist. Rosicrucianism is based upon the concept of Idealism, opining that the mind makes the objective reality we share, and thus, is capable of reifying subjectivism into objectivism; it's not exactly a "scientific" belief system. It's akin to Law of Attraction concepts touted in public Noosphere by motivational speakers like Tony Robbins today.

Ultimately, rosicrucianism is very closely related to the new age Christian belief in prosperity doctrine; except the manifesting force is fulfilled by one's self, instead of God. Both faith systems posit that manifestation is "baked into the cosmic system" with only the agent of that manifestation differing.

The difference between "God" being that agent, and one's own self's "magical thoughts" is, unironically, schizotypal thinking.

Have you ever read Liebniz?

[Origen]

"All of the people who make points I don't like are tied to things that may or may not have contributed to their ideas, and this invalidates all of their other ideas."

"However, I will have a meltdown if you do guilt by association to me."

[aussenseiter]

Considering how many of their other positons are, like, copy-pasted from incel Youtube, best Theory of Posting hypothesis I've seen yet.

I'll try to make my posts more genocidal going forward so as to not upset you.

[Origen]

I'll try to make my posts more genocidal going forward so as to not upset you.You don't upset me, you disappoint me. Unlike most of these other terrible people, you are smart enough to see through conservative propaganda yet you choose the position that propagates despair and suicide in children.

God may forgive you, and them, but you'll have some serious work to do in the afterlife.

[aussenseiter]

You don't upset me, you disappoint me. Unlike most of these other terrible people, you are smart enough to see through conservative propaganda yet you choose the position that propagates despair and suicide in children.

God may forgive you, and them, but you'll have some serious work to do in the afterlife.

"informed consent form"

https://i.imgur.com/zwDWvzR.png

[unsunghero]

"informed consent form"

https://i.imgur.com/zwDWvzR.png

If the parent says no, just sever custody, take the kid to a secret government shelter, and do medical experiments on them

Also, remove any contact from their extended family as well. Basically, isolate them from all their supports, the effective tactic of every abuser

[Landroval]

It's just a social construct and a relative moral judgement anyways. Rabid leftists and their subjective moral judgements

[Origen]

What, like, pretending to be Christian while openly hating God's chosen people?

Yeah I'm sure that will go over great with the Lord

[Landroval]

22495

Except with no moral framework.

[aussenseiter]

Are we the baddies? (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/opinion/trump-meritocracy-educated.html)

[Origen]

Nah, I am aware the conservative is not capable of shame. Too arrogant, generally speaking.

[Landroval]

Are we the baddies? (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/opinion/trump-meritocracy-educated.html)

Can't read; not subscribed to jew-news

[Landroval]

Nah, I am aware the conservative is not capable of shame. Too arrogant, generally speaking.

No levi-rage

[unsunghero]

Are we the baddies? (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/opinion/trump-meritocracy-educated.html)

Wow, interesting article and nice find, a Dem writer almost becoming self-aware

Almost

[unsunghero]

Can't read; not subscribed to jew-news

Just turn off flash on your browser (JavaScript) and re-load

[Landroval]

I'm not sitting at home, and don't care enough to circumvent the paywall.

[unsunghero]

I'm not sitting at home, and don't care enough to circumvent the paywall.

It was basically a Dem writer acknowledging that they control many professions like journalism and have locked out others, that they imprison (or attempt to) their political opponents

And asking does this make us the baddies?

Then answering no, because orange man bad

So almost had an epiphany but not quite because TDS

[Origen]

Brooks is a neoliberal chickenhawk, the left mocks him and the right misunderstands him.

[unsunghero]

This quote was especially insightful as well from him

“Meanwhile, members of the less-educated classes have to walk on eggshells, because they never know when we’ve changed the usage rules, so that something that was sayable five years ago now gets you fired”

Controlling language is quite a weapon. Remember, college kids the usefulness of abusing the shit out of the word “unsafe”

[Landroval]

It's quite ironic that they assume people who disagree with them are "less-educated"... As if education leads to philosophical parity. It's a grievously ignorant misunderstanding of both the people who disagree with them, and the concept of education itself.

[Origen]

It's quite ironic that they assume people who disagree with them are "less-educated"... As if education leads to philosophical parity. It's a grievously ignorant misunderstanding of both the people who disagree with them, and the concept of education itself.What are you worried about? You're living proof of this.

[Landroval]

Not much. Thats why I don't mind engaging y'all in your own playground. Unfortunately, most of y'all have a very superficial understanding of your own precepts which leads you to quickly abandon that avenue of rhetoric when confronted with the precepts of your own lexicon; gotta go download your updated dogmatism.

[PRogers]

All black people have their daughter's genitals mutilated, yet, they're still welcomed by the commies

Lol want to be banned so badly.

[unsunghero]

It's quite ironic that they assume people who disagree with them are "less-educated"... As if education leads to philosophical parity. It's a grievously ignorant misunderstanding of both the people who disagree with them, and the concept of education itself.

From the article:

“ During his presidency Barack Obama used the word “smart” in the context of his policies over 900 times. The implication was that anybody who disagreed with his policies (and perhaps didn’t go to Harvard Law) must be stupid”

[unsunghero]

Also from the article:

“Members of our class also segregate ourselves into a few booming metro areas: San Francisco, D.C., Austin and so on. In 2020, Biden won only 500 or so counties, but together they are responsible for 71 percent of the American economy. Trump won over 2,500 counties, responsible for only 29 percent. Once we find our cliques, we don’t get out much. In the book “Social Class in the 21st Century,” sociologist Mike Savage and his co-researchers found that the members of the highly educated class tend to be the most insular, measured by how often we have contact with those who have jobs unlike our own”

[Landroval]

Just another deplorable over here. They're super educated, but they can't replace a fuse in their car or even change their oil, so they take it to jiffy lube where they get scammed for twice the price of their oil change for air filters that have a little dust to shake out of em

[PRogers]

You sound like a butthurt little bitch because your own retarded logic was used to showcase your stupidity. And you are a Commie, bitch. That's literally your ideological preference as an ideal societal framework. Go fuck yourself.

Oxymoronically, you view Russia as the bad guys to boot. They're literally the pioneers of your utopic vision for the world.

This guy has got it all figured out.

I bet everyone whos not him falls into one of those catagories he hates so much. That explains to himself why hes alone, everyone else is something he hates. Every. Single. Person.

Who could love someone like this? My own mother would disown me if I were this stupid.

[Origen]

Not much. Thats why I don't mind engaging y'all in your own playground. Unfortunately, most of y'all have a very superficial understanding of your own precepts which leads you to quickly abandon that avenue of rhetoric when confronted with the precepts of your own lexicon; gotta go download your updated dogmatism.Lmao, running his posts through a thesaurus before he clicks submit. Nothing like a person desperate to be perceived as intelligent.

[Botten]

Thanks GOP!

22504

[Landroval]

Lmao, running his posts through a thesaurus before he clicks submit. Nothing like a person desperate to be perceived as intelligent.

That's just how I talk. I'm sorry your inferiority complex is triggered.

Let's circle jerk some more

[Landroval]

Thanks GOP!

22504

Yeah, it's can't be from incompetent fiscal policy and bad governance....

Hope you retards are making moves on this market.

[Origen]

In this thread, Landroval desperately seeks approval from his fellow racists and has temper tantrums periodically when he sees words.

[Landroval]

In this thread, Landroval desperately seeks approval from his fellow racists and has temper tantrums periodically when he sees words.

More projection. Did you homos suck each other off after your zingers?

[aussenseiter]

Yeah, it's can't be from incompetent fiscal policy and bad governance....

Hope you retards are making moves on this market.

"Get rid of the debt limit or your credit score gets it"

[Origen]

Haha, he can't decide if he's a pretend intellectual or an angry thirteen year old boy. Pick a lane! Throwing a bunch of shit at the wall and seeing what sticks is just cringe.

[Landroval]

Just sayin' you're missing out on a golden opportunity to escalate this bonding moment to a consummation of it

[Origen]

No thanks, I have a six inch minimum

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Have you ever read Liebniz?

Read him? I fucked him.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Anyway, math is math is math. Math self-selects precise measurements that work according to laws that eventually Newton conceptualized how to mathematically express in his calculus.

This is the flow chart of human evolutionary history:

humans as a large whole, follow their tech around
tech follows science
science follows mathematical order.


One could say, "Oh so humans follow around the idea of mathematical order" but that is not correct. In some poetic sense we do, or the very rare geniuses do (Pythagoras? Newton?), but this is a noisy, indirect, and inefficient system. But it works.

[Landroval]

One could say, "Oh so humans follow around the idea of mathematical order" but that is not correct. In some poetic sense we do, or the very rare geniuses do (Pythagoras? Newton?), but this is a noisy, indirect, and inefficient system. But it works.

Agreed, the vast majority of humans are simply utilizers of said technology, irrelevant of it's mathematical roots, perfectly content with dismissing the understanding of why and how things function the way they do.

They'll ridicule you for being "stupid" (not agreeing with them), or, when you rationalize your position using precise terminology, they'll ridicule for sounding smart(er than them).

[unsunghero]

Anyway, math is math is math.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Francis Bacon was a Rosicrucianist. Rosicrucianism is based upon the concept of Idealism, opining that the mind makes the objective reality we share, and thus, is capable of reifying subjectivism into objectivism; it's not exactly a "scientific" belief system. It's akin to Law of Attraction concepts touted in public Noosphere by motivational speakers like Tony Robbins today.

Ultimately, rosicrucianism is very closely related to the new age Christian belief in prosperity doctrine; except the manifesting force is fulfilled by one's self, instead of God. Both faith systems posit that manifestation is "baked into the cosmic system" with only the agent of that manifestation differing.

The difference between "God" being that agent, and one's own self's "magical thoughts" is, unironically, schizotypal thinking.

Have you ever read Liebniz?

Actually, to not blow off your post.

Here is my simple interjection that, naturally, kind of changes what could logically follow next, and really, helps tame this beast you seem to have got barnacled onto you. The intervention comes early.

...opining that the mind makes the objective reality we share...

No. I can go on, or I can just say, no, let's get this over with. So here we go. Here is the early error corrected: "opining that the mind mirrors the objective reality we share" Not "make." Change term. "Mirror."

At that point, the problem is crystal clear and there is no time to bandy about "could Oprah understand this?" [NO].

Mirror of what? What are we seeing in this "mirror" that is how our mind works? If sciencce is a "mirror" of nature, that means it's just a reflection and what is nature? And what is the mirror?

CHaos is unleashed. AKA the next 200-ish years of western philosophy. It was kind of an Oppenheimer deal. The "cognitive explosition" is still going off. Woot!

Because here is what happened at the birth of modern thought (usually attributed to Decsartes but Bacon works equally well):


good news all, we are confident the mind is like a mirror.
...
what the fuck does that mean??


You see this, you see Kant, you see Hume, you see Hegel, of course positivism, you see even the phenomenologists, since they are *still* stuck on the "wtf is a mirror?" deal.

Only possible person who escaped? Dick Rorty, whom I've had the pleasure of meeting once a long time ago. But I think he just gets people to forget his "and that's fuckin it" part cuz he was a swell guy. A charmer. No nihilist he. Leibniz -- no nihilist oho! I think nihilism in the precise sense is the key concept to confront and disarm this century. We got to get clear on nihilism. It's bad joojoo.

[Origen]

https://i.imgur.com/vrs6WlU.jpeg

[aussenseiter]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22505&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1691099946

This is a math problem.

[Ooloo]

Guys, fewer than 1% of black women work on oil rigs. Exclusion, bias, harassment, racism, genocide, white supremacy, and full-blown rape persist on oil rigs.

I can't believe people fall for this shit.

[Origen]

Guys, fewer than 1% of black women work on oil rigs. Exclusion, bias, harassment, racism, genocide, white supremacy, and full-blown rape persist on oil rigs.

I can't believe people fall for this shit.Men commit 80% of all violent crime. I can't believe people fall for this shit.

[Ooloo]

Men commit 80% of all violent crime. I can't believe people fall for this shit.

It's acually more than that, but yes because men and women are different. Because the sexes are different.

What point do you think you're making?

My point was that simple disparities in representation don't mean anything nefarious has occurred. I'm not sure what yours was.

[Origen]

It's acually more than that, but yes because men and women are different. Because the sexes are different.

What point do you think you're making?

My point was that simple disparities in representation don't mean anything nefarious has occurred. I'm not sure what yours was.Next time you're concern trolling about black crime statistics remember your own point

[aussenseiter]

Guys, fewer than 1% of black women work on oil rigs.

Guys, fewer than 1% of oil rig workers are black women.

[unsunghero]

It's acually more than that, but yes because men and women are different. Because the sexes are different.

What point do you think you're making?

Adult male gorillas have 10 times more testosterone than human men

They are also 27 times stronger. If a human brain were in a gorilla, it could benchpress 4000lbs

The way to not get killed by a gorilla? —> Avert thine eyes!

[Ooloo]

Next time you're concern trolling about black crime statistics remember your own point

You mean when I say black people commit more crime than any other demographic per-capita, and it's not even close? Yes. That is true. And also, most black people don't commit crime. Both things are true.

I still don't know what you're saying.

[Origen]

You mean when I say black people commit more crime than any other demographic per-capita, and it's not even close? Yes. That is true. And also, most black people don't commit crime. Both things are true.

I still don't know what you're saying.Now explain why, and cite sources.

[Ooloo]

Now explain why, and cite sources.

Oh fuck off.

Go listen to coleman hughes. He's my source. He's black. He'll explain why way better than I can.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Guys, fewer than 1% of black women work on oil rigs. Exclusion, bias, harassment, racism, genocide, white supremacy, and full-blown rape persist on oil rigs.

I can't believe people fall for this shit.

What shit? Oil rigs don't want women.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/6182054c6e9c2038c218605f/4989ac79-1dbb-4f0c-9f24-1009437a5672/Michael+Clark+Duncan+%28Shirtless+Scene%29+%5BArma geddon%5D+Part+3-5.gif

[unsunghero]

What shit? Oil rigs don't want women.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/6182054c6e9c2038c218605f/4989ac79-1dbb-4f0c-9f24-1009437a5672/Michael+Clark+Duncan+%28Shirtless+Scene%29+%5BArma geddon%5D+Part+3-5.gif

EXCUSE ME SIR, that’s a problematic gender stereotype

Women are just as physically capable as men, just look at women vs trans women in sports

[Origen]

Oh fuck off.

Go listen to coleman hughes. He's my source. He's black. He'll explain why way better than I can.I think I've proven my point here

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

This is a math problem.

It's a technological problem! Math, who the fuck knows.

"All our trouble is tool shaped."

-- Old Delta Blues song.

[Duik]

EXCUSE ME SIR, that’s a problematic gender stereotype

Women are just as physically capable as men, just look at women vs trans women in sports

Very few jobs require the extra difference between men and women to perform acceptably in the job.
Elite sport? Sure thing. Absolute limit jobs, i cant name any but im sure they exist. Sure, but surely they are the few and the exception.

So, logically the reason women dont get employed on oil rigs (assuming this is true of course) isnt because they lack the ability or fortitude. Its sumfing else. Here is a few points to ponder.
I have no answer cause there prolly isnt one.

Men hire, or at least create the rules.
Assume ALL women are like their aunt Rosie.
Never met a real woman who has explored her full physical potential.
Women may not wish to be exposed to the toxic (literal and societal) environment.

The good bit about this is you get to choose which applies. Or none.
Have at it.

[Ooloo]

I think I've proven my point here

Lol not really.

Ostensibly I *think* your point was that you agree with that article unsung referenced (derisively) about how math is racist or something. But I honestly have no idea what your point was, because you never actually make a point. You post some totally confounding nonsense and then say "my point is made!!". It's retarded.

[Duik]

It's a technological problem! Math, who the fuck knows.

"All our trouble is tool shaped."

-- Old Delta Blues song.

All one then needs is a trouble shaped tool.

-- New Alpha (clearly better) Blues song.

[Ooloo]

Itt: Confused libs shit on meritocracy as an ethos but then also insist meritocracy is being ignored for women because there isn't a perfect 1:1 representation of their population in every single job.

Uh oh there are fewer male college graduates than females! College hates men!

[unsunghero]

EFFING TRANSPHOBES!

MORAL PANIC ENSUES!

[aussenseiter]

But I honestly have no idea what your point was, because you never actually make a point. You post some totally confounding nonsense and then say "my point is made!!". It's retarded.

No, that's me.

[Landroval]

Actually, to not blow off your post.

Here is my simple interjection that, naturally, kind of changes what could logically follow next, and really, helps tame this beast you seem to have got barnacled onto you. The intervention comes early.



No. I can go on, or I can just say, no, let's get this over with. So here we go. Here is the early error corrected: "opining that the mind mirrors the objective reality we share" Not "make." Change term. "Mirror."

At that point, the problem is crystal clear and there is no time to bandy about "could Oprah understand this?" [NO].

Mirror of what? What are we seeing in this "mirror" that is how our mind works? If sciencce is a "mirror" of nature, that means it's just a reflection and what is nature? And what is the mirror?

CHaos is unleashed. AKA the next 200-ish years of western philosophy. It was kind of an Oppenheimer deal. The "cognitive explosition" is still going off. Woot!

Because here is what happened at the birth of modern thought (usually attributed to Decsartes but Bacon works equally well):


good news all, we are confident the mind is like a mirror.
...
what the fuck does that mean??


You see this, you see Kant, you see Hume, you see Hegel, of course positivism, you see even the phenomenologists, since they are *still* stuck on the "wtf is a mirror?" deal.

Only possible person who escaped? Dick Rorty, whom I've had the pleasure of meeting once a long time ago. But I think he just gets people to forget his "and that's fuckin it" part cuz he was a swell guy. A charmer. No nihilist he. Leibniz -- no nihilist oho! I think nihilism in the precise sense is the key concept to confront and disarm this century. We got to get clear on nihilism. It's bad joojoo.
Your correction is errant. Rosicrucianism is based upon insights gleaned from the Emerald Tablets of Hermes Trismegistus; it's a faith based system that asserts "magical thinking" reifies objective reality. Not "mirrors"; makes.

Furthermore, in this faith system, ones's ability to manifest, is contingent upon ones ability to exploit a cosmic system of service to others, as a kharmic fuel for serving one's self.

[aussenseiter]

Itt: Confused libs shit on meritocracy as an ethos but then also insist meritocracy is being ignored for women because there isn't a perfect 1:1 representation of their population in every single job.

Uh oh there are fewer male college graduates than females! College hates men!

I think African Americans get apparently squished by guest matriculants in doctoral programs. (https://cord.asu.edu/sites/default/files/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Why-do-foreign-citizens-with-US-PhD-CORD-website-version-.pdf)

Today almost
40% of US doctoral degrees go to non-US citizens, more than double the rate from 1970(Chang
and Milan 2012).

Which doesn't answer whether there's a problem.

[unsunghero]

Too bad conservatives aren’t a protected class that can abuse

“I don’t feel safe”

To get whatever demands they want met immediately

[Elizondo]

- You call a lot of news sites fake news
- Yes, Parental permission is needed before any of the surgical procedures you have mentioned.
- Your example was Michigan. In reality Michigan is looking to get rid of Conversion Theory and there is no specific addition implementing Gender Dysphoria therapy -
(Conspiracies aside, even if there was making this MUCH of a transition isn't going to be overnight.)

I get it both sides are doing it.

You are simply responding to a knee jerking response to re-energize the Christian base to vote in these states where the left is adding the question of legalized abortion to the state elections is doing the same.

Either way social norms have to be fought by moral concerns to ease the society into progress.

I guess going full stop is agitating.

Again, I didn't write the bill. The text is clear. I linked it for you.

Show me where the distinction between adults and minors is made

I'm still waiting

[Homesteaded]

Next time you're concern trolling about black crime statistics remember your own point

8% of the population is responsible for 25% of violent crimes

[Homesteaded]

Is that racism? Cite sources? Took me 2 minutes to calculate and two google searches.

[Ooloo]

Too bad conservatives aren’t a protected class that can abuse

“I don’t feel safe”

To get whatever demands they want met immediately

I often wonder whether world war I might have ended sooner if the combatants had known to just yell "I don't feel safe!" as they're getting shelled and gassed

[unsunghero]

Remember kids, when we want to abuse the English language in order to manipulate others, what is the phrase we use???

All in unison: “we don’t feel safe!”

Very good!

[aussenseiter]

8% of the population is responsible for 25% of violent crimes

Is that racism? Cite sources? Took me 2 minutes to calculate and two google searches.

"Figures don't lie, but liars figure." (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969807/)

[unsunghero]

Wonder how they can keep re-offending?? Hmmm….it’s baking my noodle

Oh that’s right! No consequences!

“Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said”

[Botten]

Again, I didn't write the bill. The text is clear. I linked it for you.

Show me where the distinction between adults and minors is made

I'm still waiting



https://grdiocese.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/proposal-3-reproductive-freedom-constitutional-amendment-language.pdf

(1) Every individual has a fundamental right to reproductive freedom, which entails the right to make and effectuate decisions about all matters relating to pregnancy, including but not limited to prenatal care, childbirth, postpartum care, contraception, sterilization (Puberty Blockers), abortion care, miscarriage management, and infertility care.

An individual’s right to reproductive freedom shall not be denied, burdened, nor infringed upon unless justified by a compelling state interest achieved by the least restrictive means.

Plain and simply you are injecting into the bill what you want to read.
Michigan is putting abortion on the ballot.

This means there is no in parentheses puberty blockers because:
A. It isn’t there see your link - only in your quote
B. And furthermore Puberty blockers do not sterilize.

Lastly there is nothing to complain about….parental agreement is needed for any surgical procedure including breast augmentation, implants and removal.

If planned parenthood worked with Democrats to write the bill they did so on the premises of abortion.

Look I get it GOP politicians need to ramp up rage in the Christian base with whatever misinformation they can to re-energize them to counter the numbers coming out to vote for abortion rights in Michigan. The Democrats are using abortion rights to get more woman to come out and vote for Democrat leaders. But if the GOP wants to motivate their Christian base, then they are doing it with low energy disinformation on therapies that have been offered since 2011.

Gender dysphoria is real and at the very least Conversion Therapy needs to stop in Michigan. The Christian base in Michigan has been deceived and used for evil by GOP political groups that have nowhere near the funding or the intelligent foreign interference similar to 2016.

Simply put the independents aren’t there this go around, they are not going to be fooled in such a sloppy con job by such uneducated ploys.

[aussenseiter]

Plain and simply you are injecting into the bill what you want to read.
Michigan is putting abortion on the ballot.

This means there is no in parentheses puberty blockers because:
A. It isn’t there see your link - only in your quote
B. And furthermore Puberty blockers do not sterilize.

Lastly there is nothing to complain about….parental agreement is needed for any surgical procedure including breast augmentation, implants and removal.

If planned parenthood worked with Democrats to write the bill they did so on the premises of abortion.

Look I get it GOP politicians need to ramp up rage in the Christian base with whatever misinformation they can to re-energize them to counter the numbers coming out to vote for abortion rights in Michigan. The Democrats are using abortion rights to get more woman to come out and vote for Democrat leaders. But if the GOP wants to motivate their Christian base, then they are doing it with low energy disinformation on therapies that have been offered since 2011.

Gender dysphoria is real and at the very least Conversion Therapy needs to stop in Michigan. The Christian base in Michigan has been deceived and used for evil by GOP political groups that have nowhere near the funding or the intelligent foreign interference similar to 2016.

Simply put the independents aren’t there this go around, they are not going to be fooled in such a sloppy con job by such uneducated ploys.

What's up with all these mentally ill women killing their babies?

[unsunghero]

What's up with all these mentally ill women killing their babies?

No idea…

But I do not recommend watching…

As horrible fucked up as it is, it is impressive that she was so psychotic after she skewered both her kids she gashed her own wrists through the tendons and cut through both her Achilles heels

Crazy bitch. Meth is a hell of a drug

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UbFrfunnmxc

[aussenseiter]

No idea…

But I do not recommend watching…

As horrible fucked up as it is, it is impressive that she was so psychotic after she skewered both her kids she gashed her own wrists through the tendons and cut through both her Achilles heels

Crazy bitch. Meth is a hell of a drug

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UbFrfunnmxc

Before anyone yells at me for being too woke; from the bill:

Notwithstanding the above, the state may regulate the provision of abortion care after
fetal viability, provided that in no circumstance shall the state prohibit an abortion that,
in the professional judgment of an attending health care professional, is medically
indicated to protect the life or physical or mental health of the pregnant individual.

[unsunghero]

^
Work wanted me to transport a 5 time incarcerated felon professed former gangbanger black dude with 2 teardrop tatts who had just recently relapsed on meth and was escalated, erratic, and irritable today

I said “nah”. Had to pass on that one. My discretion is what keeps me alive

[Botten]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/07/31/lori-vallow-idaho-doomsday-mom-sentenced/70490089007/

Vallow Daybell claimed to friends that her children were "zombies" and she was a goddess sent to usher in the biblical apocalypse.

…
Vallow Daybell addressed the court Monday, saying: "Jesus knows me and Jesus understands me. I mourn with all of you who mourn my children and Tammy. Jesus Christ knows the truth of what happened here. Jesus Christ knows that no one was murdered in this case. Accidental deaths happen. Suicides happen.


Going out on a limb and saying this very religious Idaho mom isn’t a good Christian.

[Homesteaded]

"Figures don't lie, but liars figure." (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969807/)

Super valuable Swedish violent crime stats.

[Origen]

Is that racism? Cite sources? Took me 2 minutes to calculate and two google searches.Now explain why, and cite sources.

[aussenseiter]

Super valuable Swedish violent crime stats.

Nobody cares about Sweden. Math is just a liar sometimes.

[Origen]

Too bad conservatives aren’t a protected class that can abuse

“I don’t feel safe”

To get whatever demands they want met immediatelyMost of them don't have to say anything, they just show up with their white skin and bags of money. One little nudge while out golfing with the judge, bam.

Not that it helped the Jan6 pawns, not enough money.

[Landroval]

Most of them don't have to say anything, they just show up with their jewish skin and bags of money. One little nudge while out golfing with the Rabbi, bam.

Not that it helped the Jan6 pawns, not enough jeiwshness.

[Origen]

I already know you're an anti-semite, but it's the silence of the other conservatives that is deafening. Not surprising, but deafening.

[Landroval]

I already know you're a semite, but it's the silence of the other progressives that is deafening. Not surprising, but deafening.

[aussenseiter]

You're never gonna change his mind. He's "in the bag" for it, so to speak.

[Botten]

Yeah, so Trump’s defense lawyer unknowingly just threw him under the bus on TV

Even Laura Ingraham had a look saying shut up to the lawyer being interviewed.

https://www.mediaite.com/crime/its-the-whole-case-lawrence-odonnell-blown-away-when-trump-lawyer-appears-to-admit-to-stunning-fact/

[aussenseiter]

Yeah, so Trump’s defense lawyer unknowingly just threw him under the bus on TV

Even Laura Ingraham had a look saying shut up to the lawyer being interviewed.

https://www.mediaite.com/crime/its-the-whole-case-lawrence-odonnell-blown-away-when-trump-lawyer-appears-to-admit-to-stunning-fact/

Secretaries of State only have a ceremonial role in certifying the election. 🤪

[Origen]

You're never gonna change his mind. He's "in the bag" for it, so to speak.I am not in the business of changing minds

[PRogers]

581 years in total. 55 years just from the last indictment.

He's getting life one way or another.

Hope he gets raped in there. oops.

[unsunghero]

We got im now boys

[Botten]

We got im now boys

We definitely need to pump the breaks his low energy role needs to last a bit longer.


.

[unsunghero]

We definitely need to pump the breaks his low energy role needs to last a bit longer.


.

Ya him not running against Biden again will likely still be the best thing for us

[unsunghero]

The journey north to go camping begins

Just used the auto-clean on windshield. “Will he hit bugs? Did the sun monster kill all the bugs?”


We shall see

[Origen]

581 years in total. 55 years just from the last indictment.

He's getting life one way or another.

Hope he gets raped in there. oops.I do hope he gets locked up, but I ain't gonna hope for sexual assault. The prevalence of rape in US prisons is a tragedy.

Besides, we all know he'll be going to a cushy rich asshole prison in the unlikely event the corrupt, conservative US justice system actually convicts him.

[Landroval]

Subject: Ignite the Spark! Embrace the Power of the Office and Inspire your Team!

Dear Esteemed Managers,

I hope this email finds you energized and ready to unlock new realms of success! Today, I come bearing a clarion call to leverage the profound energy of our office environment and reignite the collective spirit of productivity!

We stand at the precipice of an exceptional opportunity. The prospect of bringing our teams back together under one unified roof holds immense potential for creative synergy, enriched collaboration, and amplified innovation. It is within these hallowed halls that our teams find inspiration to elevate their performance beyond the realm of possibility.

Allow me to paint a vivid picture of the transformative power that lies dormant within our office's illustrious walls. Imagine walking into a space pulsating with the unmistakable hum of ambition, where shared goals converge with zeitgeist to create an unparalleled atmosphere of excellence. Engaging in impromptu brainstorming sessions at the water cooler, exchanging dynamic ideas amidst the vibrant symphony of bustling colleagues - these transcendental interactions unlock seismic shifts in our collective consciousness.

While remote work indulged us with flexibility, it is vital to acknowledge the limitations it imposes upon our personal and professional growth. We have witnessed firsthand the traditional paradigms of inspiration and motivation transform before our very eyes. Topics for water-cooler banter now silenced, serendipitous encounters stifled, and organic mentorship opportunities relegated to mere pixels on a screen.

The time to realign our compasses and awaken the true potential of our teams is now! Let us seize the day and champion the return to the office where dynamic connections reign supreme, synergy thrives, and collaboration knows no bounds. Picture how our employees will thrive when immersed once again in the fires of camaraderie, when the vibrancy of the office regenerates their spirits and sparks a fresh wave of creativity.

By embracing this momentous opportunity, we pave the way for the reimagining of productivity and excellence. Together, let us usher in a future of holistic growth that fuels personal fulfillment and ignites professional transcendence, embarking on a quest for greatness that transcends the mundane realities of remote work.

In closing, I implore you to embrace this clarion call, seize upon the myriad benefits awaiting us within our esteemed office walls, and lead your teams into a realm of unparalleled success! Nurture the sparks within your teams, reignite the dormant flames of synergy, and breathe life into the vibrant tapestry of greatness that can only reside in the workplace.

Let us gather, my fellow managers, and spearhead this journey towards a triumphant return to the office, where dreams are woven into realities and victories are etched indelibly in the annals of our corporate legacy!

I have to time-box this comment, as I have a hard-stop in a moment when I will have to jump onto a call. So, just one more point that I want to cover-off on: let's socialize the idea of having more office presence and loop back to see whether we're being more impactful. From a management standpoint, I think that we can get the traction to do it.

So, net/net, ignore the naysayers, sidebar the folks that are stuck in the weeds, and don't waste cycles or bandwidth on folks that don't align strongly with this mission. Try it out, and we'll have another touch point in a little while to see if we've moved the needle. Remember, our north star hasn't changed.

I have a standup later at 3. Give me a ping after and we can chat.

[Origen]

Check it out, bless the doctors fighting the good fight against the small-minded bigots: https://apnews.com/article/transgender-genderaffirming-care-pediatricians-176134f1b6ee1f2c146fef9a40cf351e

Every major medical group, including the academy and the American Medical Association, has opposed the bans and has said the treatments are safe if administered properly.

[aussenseiter]

Check it out, bless the doctors fighting the good fight against the small-minded bigots: https://apnews.com/article/transgender-genderaffirming-care-pediatricians-176134f1b6ee1f2c146fef9a40cf351e

Wobblies don't like trade unions.

Anyway, cui bono?

[Origen]

Human beings stand to benefit. The only purity test I remember in the IWW is "do you have the capacity to hire or fire?"

[aussenseiter]

Human beings stand to benefit. The only purity test I remember in the IWW is "do you have the capacity to hire or fire?"

I get money? You get money? Oh hoho, no, doctor get money.

Dis is da wae.

[Origen]

Act dumber than you are if you want

[aussenseiter]

Act dumber than you are if you want

What makes you think the upper class is doing anything but advocating for themselves?

[Ooloo]

Check it out, bless the doctors fighting the good fight against the small-minded bigots: https://apnews.com/article/transgender-genderaffirming-care-pediatricians-176134f1b6ee1f2c146fef9a40cf351e

You heard it here first: doctors can never be wrong. Except all the times they've been wrong.

Also a bunch of people in those organizations requested a review of the evidence and literature and were denied by higher-ups, because politics and optics. It turns out that when you've been doing something completely medically unethical to thousands of people, you often double down and insist that it's totally safe and good rather than admitting fault.

It may surprise you to learn that organizations are comprised of many different people, and many of those people object to this on the grounds that it's completely experimental and unproven. Which it is.

Go ahead and keep advocating for sterilizing and mutilating minors though, I guess. Own those cons!

[Landroval]

Larry Fink has my interests at heart for a more inclusive world.

[Ooloo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11099561/Leaked-internal-files-pediatricians-angry-professional-bodys-transgender-policy.html

"Another member said there was 'no good long-term outcome data' for those who undergo the arduous physical process of transitioning, and pointed to the 37,000 members of an online forum for regretful 'de-transitioners', as they are known.

'What is most needed right now is better research to make sure we do the right thing for our patients,' wrote the pediatrician, who, like others, we are not identifying, as such views have led to online harassment in the past.

Others bashed the AAP for stonewalling Resolution 27, in which five members called for a 'rigorous systematic review' of the academy's 2018 gender-affirming policy, saying growing numbers of transitioners regret their treatment and seek reversals."

"One AAP member complained they were 'unable to comment' on the document; another said they 'no longer trust the AAP' as the resolution was 'removed' and 'debate on the matter was silenced egregiously'."

"Julia Mason, an Oregon-based pediatrician and one of five authors of Resolution 27, said ever-more colleagues across the U.S. wanted to 'slow down' the mass handout of puberty-blockers and spend more time evaluating trans-identifying teens.

'I'm really disappointed the AAP is being driven by ideology, rather than evidence,' Mason, also an advisor for the Society for Evidence-based Gender Medicine, told DailyMail.com.

'They're embarrassed that they've let young activist doctors get them on record in support of gender-affirming care, and now they can't backtrack. They've suppressed my efforts and come up with new rules to hide what we're trying to say from rank and file pediatricians."

So it turns out, there is disagreement among the experts! Imagine that, I thought experts all agree??

[Origen]

Ooloo has been triggered and has once again come up empty handed.

It's pretty comical how hard the "facts over feelings" crowd leans on feelings tho

[Ooloo]

Ooloo has been triggered and has once again come up empty handed.

It's pretty comical how hard the "facts over feelings" crowd leans on feelings tho

Lol but the experts! Man, the experts!

I showed you that they don't all agree, there is dissent within the ranks of the holy experts. Surely this concerns you?

[Origen]

No, I am not concerned. There's scientists that deny climate change, too, but the consensus is that it's real.

[Ooloo]

Preach brother. Keep the faith. Never waver.

[Origen]

I won't waver on freedom, but it isn't faith, it's reason.

Sticking to your bias despite the overwhelming evidence it is factually wrong, however, resembles faith.

[Ooloo]

I won't waver on freedom, but it isn't faith, it's reason.

Sticking to your bias despite the overwhelming evidence it is factually wrong, however, resembles faith.

Lol the "overwhelming evidence" doesn't exist. That's kind of the problem bud.

You really projection.txt'ed that one.

[Origen]

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without consideration, or somethin'

Send your Youtube Certified "facts" to the AMA.

[Ooloo]

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without consideration, or somethin'

Send your Youtube Certified "facts" to the AMA.

Why not the AAP? They were on your magic list of the evidence-guys! Now they're verboten?

[aussenseiter]

No, I am not concerned. There's scientists that deny climate change, too, but the consensus is that it's real.

"Consensus is not a fact-based exercise"

-Cardi B.

[Origen]

Why not the AAP? They were on your magic list of the evidence-guys! Now they're verboten?It was just the biggest one that came to mind, take your pick. Send a frame by frame printout of a Matt Walsh video to the medical organization of your choice.

[Landroval]

"Consensus is not a fact-based exercise"

-Cardi B.

Facts are antisemitic so we gotta massage em a bit

[Ooloo]

It was just the biggest one that came to mind, take your pick. Send a frame by frame printout of a Matt Walsh video to the medical organization of your choice.

Okay I will and as it turns out a bunch of people in that organization will probably agree with it.

We don't have to fight man, although it would be boring if we just agreed about everything so fair enough.

[Nibblewitz]

I too would believe all this hippie dippie bullshit if it could withstand a test of more than 2 sigmas. Consensus isn't science.

[Botten]

I too would believe all this hippie dippie bullshit if it could withstand a test of more than 2 sigmas. Consensus isn't science.

Scientists do enjoy receive suggestions and criticism of their research, it just happens to be more valuable and relevant from other scientists.

[Trexller]

Scientists do enjoy receive suggestions and criticism of their research, it just happens to be more valuable and relevant from other scientists.

academia in a nutshell

if you aren't one of us, you're nobody

now please give us more money, we think screwing around and writing it down is actually a job

[unsunghero]

academia in a nutshell

if you aren't one of us, you're nobody

now please give us more money, we think screwing around and writing it down is actually a job

Maybe they can study how they can pay back their own student loans

[Elizondo]

Proven fact that The CDC purposely lied about the efficacy of the jab

Walensky even lied to Congress about it

Science has been completely corrupted by The Left

Even all their Global Warming hysteria is based on phony hockey stick graphs and laughably sloppy research

[Elizondo]

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-24/late-winter-snow-blast-surprises-eastern-australia/101368182

In pictures: Late winter snow blast surprises eastern Australia Wed 24 Aug 2022

A late-winter blast of cold has seen significant snowfall in New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania.

It was thanks to a large cold front crossing over the south-east, bringing cold air, thunderstorms, gusty winds, hail and plenty of snow.

The snap has seen pictures from amateur and professional photographers alike brave the cold in search of the perfect shot.

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[Ekco]

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-24/late-winter-snow-blast-surprises-eastern-australia/101368182



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posting old climate change doomsday predictions is basically as offensive as drawing Muhammad is to muslims, just a matter of time before our neo-religious fanatics just choppin people's dicks and tits off for it like they do heads over there.

[Elizondo]

just a matter of time before our neo-religious fanatics just choppin people's dicks and tits off for it like they do heads over there.

They already are

It's called 'Gender Affirming Care'

[Botten]

Proven fact that The CDC purposely lied about the efficacy of the jab

Walensky even lied to Congress about it

Science has been completely corrupted by The Left

Even all their Global Warming hysteria is based on phony hockey stick graphs and laughably sloppy research

Complete idiocy.

-CDC only reports comparative 'Vaccine Effectiveness Studies" by the Pharmaceutical company who created their vaccine. Efficacy of each Covid vaccine differs with the approach used to create it and the strains it aims to lessen/prevent.

-Dr. Rochelle Walensky was referring to a metric that wasn't entirely correct. But the threat Covid posed to ages 0-19 years old was very real.
Among children and young people aged 0 – 19 years in the US, COVID-19 ranked eighth among all causes of death; fifth among all disease-related causes of death; and first in deaths caused by infectious or respiratory diseases.

-We have the scientific method for a reason.
Misinformation tends to be pushed by conservatives on pharma therapies; see horse paste.

-Climate Warming and Climate Change - isn't just about the warming of the planet; it also emphasizes increases in extreme weather events. Increased carbon has a role in heating the planet. Tree ring data holds at least 1000 years of carbon information showing the effect humans have had in that increase.

https://lamont.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/styles/cu_crop/public/cu_ldeo_news_import/105167/Figure_2A_cleaned_up-01-002.jpg

Beside scientific peer review studies vs some bad PragerU disinformation campaign - enough said.

[Botten]

...just a matter of time before our neo-religious fanatics just choppin people's dicks...

LoL at Ez, The irony...

Circumcision was enjoined upon the biblical patriarch Abraham, his descendants and their slaves as "a token of the Covenant" concluded with him by God for all generations, an "everlasting covenant" (Genesis 17:13)

[Elizondo]

Complete idiocy.

-CDC only reports comparative 'Vaccine Effectiveness Studies" by the Pharmaceutical company who created their vaccine. Efficacy of each Covid vaccine differs with the approach used to create it and the strains it aims to lessen/prevent.

Nope

They knew it wasn't effective. Didn't stop transmission. Imposed vaccine mandates anyways and told people it would stop the spread. Countless people lost their jobs because of lies from political hacks at The CDC

They knew it was all lies and did it anyways

-Dr. Rochelle Walensky was referring to a metric that wasn't entirely correct. But the threat Covid posed to ages 0-19 years old was very real.
Among children and young people aged 0 – 19 years in the US, COVID-19 ranked eighth among all causes of death; fifth among all disease-related causes of death; and first in deaths caused by infectious or respiratory diseases.

You need to read her private emails that were released. She lied.

-We have the scientific method for a reason.
Misinformation tends to be pushed by conservatives on pharma therapies; see horse paste.

Propaganda isn't Science. Science isn't supposed to be political. You lied about Covid. You lied about the lock downs. You lied about the vaccine. All you ever do is lie lie lie and claim it's 'Science' so nobody can question it. We don't believe the BS you are shoveling pal

-Climate Warming and Climate Change - isn't just about the warming of the planet; it also emphasizes increases in extreme weather events. Increased carbon has a role in heating the planet. Tree ring data holds at least 1000 years of carbon information showing the effect humans have had in that increase.

https://lamont.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/styles/cu_crop/public/cu_ldeo_news_import/105167/Figure_2A_cleaned_up-01-002.jpg

Beside scientific peer review studies vs some bad PragerU disinformation campaign - enough said.

lol goal posts and that data is pure nonsense. You don't even question it because you're so brainwashed and stupid

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Some idiot just said that the Earth is 'boiling'

lol

[Botten]

Nope

They knew it wasn't effective. Didn't stop transmission. Imposed vaccine mandates anyways and told people it would stop the spread. Countless people lost their jobs because of lies from political hacks at The CDC

They knew it was all lies and did it anyways

If everyone took the vaccine it would have lessened the length of time or prevent the delta and alpha variants. In fact more than enough of the population has been vaccinated so the alpha and delta variant arenÂ’t much of a problem. You are welcome.



You need to read her private emails that were released. She lied.


What like Clinton and her leaked emails? Sorry not interested in a Pizzagate.


Propaganda isn't Science. Science isn't supposed to be political.

Says a member of the political party pushing alternative medicine or none at all.


lol goal posts and that data is pure nonsense.
Â…

lol

Says the guy who calls anything he doesnÂ’t agree with fakenews; but feels completely validated linking the same site if it fits his narrative.

[Duik]

TrumpyBoy on full offensive. Attacking lawful indictments. (They can be true or not, that's what lawyers and courts are for. He does know what they do right? Lolocaust) Extra Lolocaust for free# lol

Option 1. Fight them like a billionaire man wiff actual money.
OR...
Option2. Rant like a tiny baby. Threaten people and act like a fuckwit on his truth senshal.
BING BING BING! Option 2 thanks Joe. (You like that?)

Orange Cheeto Diaper Baby: My uneducated followers will believe whatever I say, no matter what.

Hill(ary)-Fucking-Arity ensues.
Come back JellyZondo.
In before. Low T virgin trans gay empath. No point.
Hillarty enshoes. Nailed it.

[Duik]

You need to read her private emails that were released. She lied.


Hey fuckwit. THEY ALL LIE. IT'S THEIR JOB.

You (us) fuckers are MEANT to be in the dark.
We cant handle the truth (as a dim collective whole). Individually, we can shine. Sure thing. But as a whole,WE SUCK.
Look at voting in a hostile ballot. The faKebooks etal took care of that. Some of us (you) didnt even care who manipulated us (you).
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. And did.
Look who became your president? Seriously? The Orange Cheeto. Seriously?
Did he drain the swamp?
Build a wall?
Make your life better? (If you were'nt a billionare donator)?
Four years of nuffin burger and covid denial? Seriously? Go back, did he accomplish ANYTHING he said he would? Anything?

Maga King? Can he keep a Queen?

[PRogers]

I do hope he gets locked up, but I ain't gonna hope for sexual assault. The prevalence of rape in US prisons is a tragedy.

Besides, we all know he'll be going to a cushy rich asshole prison in the unlikely event the corrupt, conservative US justice system actually convicts him.

He has 26 sexual assault claims against him. One conviction of sexual assault which would be rape but his dick was so small, she said she couldnt tell if it was a finger or his prick.

He's got it coming. If he didnt have that rancid past, I wouldnt even mention it.

Not to mention the company he kept like Cindy Yang, Epstein, epsteins bitch whatever her name was. There was some bad shit going on there.

[aussenseiter]

He has 26 sexual assault claims against him. One conviction of sexual assault which would be rape but his dick was so small, she said she couldnt tell if it was a finger or his prick.

He's got it coming. If he didnt have that rancid past, I wouldnt even mention it.

Not to mention the company he kept like Cindy Yang, Epstein, epsteins bitch whatever her name was. There was some bad shit going on there.

Judgement =! conviction

[Homesteaded]

Wait you people still think the jab was good? Lol

All the conspiracy theories on Covid have basically come true.

Masks? Junk
Wet market? Junk
It’s safe and effective? Junk


Also, claiming Covid was dangerous to 0-19? That’s beyond retard status.

They absolutely lied about the jabs stopping the spread. Some exec lady from Pfizer admitted they didn’t even test that.

[Homesteaded]

He has 26 sexual assault claims against him. One conviction of sexual assault which would be rape but his dick was so small, she said she couldnt tell if it was a finger or his prick.

He's got it coming. If he didnt have that rancid past, I wouldnt even mention it.

Not to mention the company he kept like Cindy Yang, Epstein, epsteins bitch whatever her name was. There was some bad shit going on there.

Lol

[Ooloo]

If everyone took the vaccine it would have lessened the length of time or prevent the delta and alpha variants. In fact more than enough of the population has been vaccinated so the alpha and delta variant arenÂ’t much of a problem. You are welcome.

How do you know that? You're just posing a hypothetical. IF x thing happened, which didn't happen, y thing would have happened. The vaccines turned out to be pretty dogshit at actually helping anyone except the elderly.

You're also not counting people who died from the vaccine itself, or from suicide or alcoholism, or despair, or who might die in the future from any of those things. You're not counting or caring about any of those numbers; it's just a beep-boop analysis where the only thing that matters is whether covid killed somebody or didn't. It's a dumb way to analyze the issue.

Same thing you do with the gun issue. Ban guns so there are no more emotionally-gripping mass shootings that are all over TV, but in exchange every single person who might have ever saved their own life or somebody else's life with a gun will be dead instead. And you'll be blissfully unaware of all those deaths, because "woman fends off rapist with gun" at best only makes the local news in whatever town it occurred.

Everything is a tradeoff on some level, you have to take those things into consideration and not be manipulated by fear and propaganda.

[Homesteaded]

Don’t forget the cancer deaths, motorcycle deaths and other non-Covid deaths laid at the feet of Covid. Really wish the Left didn’t ruin everything g and KungFlu would of stuck. Top tier nickname provided by the best President we’ve seen in 30 years.

[Elizondo]

If everyone took the vaccine it would have lessened the length of time or prevent the delta and alpha variants. In fact more than enough of the population has been vaccinated so the alpha and delta variant arenÂ’t much of a problem. You are welcome.

You're not getting it. The CDC knew they were not effective and went out and told the public the exact opposite. Biden even colluded with the tech companies to censor and suppress any information that didn't fit a narrative they knew were all lies

You have to censor and suppress the truth when you are telling lies. It's what Commies do


What like Clinton and her leaked emails? Sorry not interested in a Pizzagate.

Her private emails were released via a FOIA request. Yes, we know you are not interested in the truth. You never are. Try and deflect more.

Says a member of the political party pushing alternative medicine or none at all.

Says a member of a climate cult pushing fear and hysteria and claiming it's 'Science'

Says the guy who calls anything he doesnÂ’t agree with fakenews; but feels completely validated linking the same site if it fits his narrative.

I showed you irrefutable data taken from thermometers. This is the problem with climate cultists pushing mass hysteria and lies. The only reliable historical temperatures we have are from the United States and that only goes back 100 years. There has never been reliable global temperature data for obvious reasons, yet that doesn't stop the Climate Commies from claiming 'Global Warming'

You claim the Earth is 'boiling' now because of 'man made global warming'

Explain this:

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50 years ago the hysteria was the exact opposite. Next Ice Age was upon us but "Da Trees and Carbon Dioxide Derpity Derp."

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[aussenseiter]

Her private emails were released via a FOIA request. Yes, we know you are not interested in the truth. You never are.

Which is a huge abuse of power by extremist Republicans.

[Elizondo]

Which is a huge abuse of power by extremist Republicans.

w7Gy7Avj9kw

[aussenseiter]

w7Gy7Avj9kw

I'm gonna FOIA pics of Sadre's balls.

[Elizondo]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/new-emails-show-covid-vaccine-mandates-were-based-on-a-lie

New emails show COVID vaccine mandates were based on a lie

Emails obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request show that CDC Director Rochelle Walensky and former NIH Director Francis Collins were aware of, and discussed, “breakthrough cases” of COVID in January 2021 — right when the vaccines became widely available. In her email, Walensky says that “clearly,” it is an “important area of study,” links to a study raising the issue, and assures the person she is sending it to that Dr. Anthony Fauci is looped into these conversations.

However, in public, Walensky was saying something quite different. Two months after discussing this data, she said vaccinated people “don’t carry the virus” and “don’t get sick.” In a congressional hearing, after it became clear people were able to get infected with COVID even after receiving the vaccine, she defended her original statements by claiming it was true at the time she said it — namely, for the strands we were dealing with in early 2021.

We now know that was not true and that Walensky herself knew it was not true.

Jay Bhattacharya, a professor at the Stanford School of Medicine, called the revelation “stunning.” He pointed out that despite this knowledge, “they continued to push vax mandates anyway.”

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[aussenseiter]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/new-emails-show-covid-vaccine-mandates-were-based-on-a-lie

New emails show COVID vaccine mandates were based on a lie

Emails obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request show that CDC Director Rochelle Walensky and former NIH Director Francis Collins were aware of, and discussed, “breakthrough cases” of COVID in January 2021 — right when the vaccines became widely available. In her email, Walensky says that “clearly,” it is an “important area of study,” links to a study raising the issue, and assures the person she is sending it to that Dr. Anthony Fauci is looped into these conversations.


In a congressional hearing, after it became clear people were able to get infected with COVID even after receiving the vaccine, she defended her original statements by claiming it was true at the time she said it — namely, for the strands we were dealing with in early 2021.

We now know that was not true and that Walensky herself knew it was not true.

Jay Bhattacharya, a professor at the Stanford School of Medicine, called the revelation “stunning.” He pointed out that despite this knowledge, “they continued to push vax mandates anyway.”

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Thicc wording, I snipped out the part that doesn't count and intends to mislead the reader.

It's down here.


However, in public, Walensky was saying something quite different. Two months after discussing this data, she said vaccinated people “don’t carry the virus” and “don’t get sick.”

[Botten]

Imagine claiming concerns about honesty from the Biden administration while literally supporting the previous administrations continuous lies to the nation.

The Trump administration since February 2020 told the nation, Covid would just disappear in no time, he declared this no less than 38 times in his term.

The sheer lack of preparation while making ignorant claims that it was worth doing nothing at all for this infectious disease because it was supposedly only affecting blue states.

Losing literally Trillion in the US economy due to the mismanagement.

Yeah you have no floor to stand on when discussing supporting party honesty.


Beside Ez shouldn’t you end this fake outrage charade when considering:
Trump Tells Candace Owens That Covid-19 Vaccines Work:‘One Of The Greatest Achievements Of Mankind’ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/12/24/trump-tells-candace-owens-that-covid-19-vaccines-work-one-of-the-greatest-achievements-of-mankind/?sh=29e90cfa434f)

And now you are telling me the party of scandal, lies and deceit (with dangerous alternatives medicine) has the official authority over the state of climate control.

Comedy truly does ensue with your claims.

[aussenseiter]

The sheer lack of preparation while making ignorant claims that it was worth doing nothing at all for this infectious disease because it was supposedly only affecting blue states.

Sununu Raises Alarm Over Blue State Bailout Bill (https://www.governor.nh.gov/news-and-media/governor-chris-sununu-raises-alarm-over-blue-state-bailout-bill)

[Elizondo]

Thicc wording, I snipped out the part that doesn't count and intends to mislead the reader.

It's down here.

There's a river in Egypt

But Trump ect.

[Botten]

Sununu Raises Alarm Over Blue State Bailout Bill (https://www.governor.nh.gov/news-and-media/governor-chris-sununu-raises-alarm-over-blue-state-bailout-bill)

Governors who joined - Kay Ivey (R-AL), Mike Dunleavy (R-AK), Doug Ducey (R-AZ), Ron DeSantis (R-FL), Brian Kemp (R-GA), Brad Little (R-ID), Eric Holcomb (R-IN), Kim Reynolds (R-IA), Laura Kelly (D-KS), Tate Reeves (R-MS), Mike Parson (R-MO), Greg Gianforte (R-MT), Pete Ricketts (R-NE), Chris Sununu (R-NH), Doug Burgum (R-ND), Mike DeWine (R-OH), Kevin Stitt (R-OK), Henry McMaster (R-SC), Kristi Noem (R-SD), Bill Lee (R-TN), Spencer Cox (R-UT) and Mark Gordon (R-WY).

Mostly Bipartisan?

[TheBardo]

The only reliable historical temperatures we have are from the United States

LOL

[TheBardo]

whats your scientific background Elizondo?

[Elizondo]

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[Elizondo]

whats your scientific background Elizondo?

lol dude

Purposely edited what I posted. I said from 100 years ago, which is absolutely true

Total clownshow. You're embarrassing.

[TheBardo]

I didn't edit to try and obscure your meaning.

You're seriously saying the USA is the only country to have reliable temperatures from 100 years ago?

Genuinely interested why you think this is.

[Elizondo]

I didn't edit to try and obscure your meaning.

Yes you did

You're seriously saying the USA is the only country to have reliable temperatures from 100 years ago?

Genuinely interested why you think this is.

I don't 'think' it is. It just is.

Yes, primarily the United States, a few areas in Western Europe and Australia are the only areas where you have reliable temperature data from 100 years ago

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Sorry your attempts at trolling backfired so badly. Better luck next time.

[TheBardo]

Yes you did


no i didn't


I don't 'think' it is. It just is.

Yes, primarily the United States, a few areas in Western Europe and Australia .

??????

[TheBardo]

its impressive how you state things that directly contradict what you said, while still claiming that you're right.

[Origen]

whats your scientific background Elizondo?Ask him his opinions on evolution, the age of the Earth, and the existence of dinosaurs to confirm the answer to your question is "None"

Anyways, this person is literally braver than the troops: https://therealnews.com/trans-woman-goes-undercover-in-spokane-hate-church-what-she-uncovered-should-scare-all-of-us

[aussenseiter]

Ask him his opinions on evolution, the age of the Earth, and the existence of dinosaurs to confirm the answer to your question is "None"

Anyways, this person is literally braver than the troops: https://therealnews.com/trans-woman-goes-undercover-in-spokane-hate-church-what-she-uncovered-should-scare-all-of-us

Today, you’re going to meet Jordan, the trans woman who risked her safety and went undercover as a man

🤪

[Elizondo]

Anyways, this person is literally braver than the troops: https://therealnews.com/trans-woman-goes-undercover-in-spokane-hate-church-what-she-uncovered-should-scare-all-of-us

Have you ever served in the military and fought in a war?

[Ooloo]

lmao "hate church" wtf is this bullshit

nothing says credibility like "therealnews.com"

[Origen]

Have you ever served in the military and fought in a war?I'll answer this question when you talk about your last date

[Elizondo]

I'll answer this question when you talk about your last date

Low T Beta Feminist (with extreme Gynecomastia) crawls back into his sewer

GG

[Nibblewitz]

If anyone was confused, we’re in the “weak people creating hard times” phase.

[Origen]

Low T Beta Feminist (with extreme Gynecomastia) crawls back into his sewer

GGThis isn't a description of your last date!

[Trexller]

FUCKING RIGHT

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[Ekco]

lol that sihk was like i didn't come all the way over here and open up a 7/11 to deal with your bullshit.

nature is healing

[unsunghero]

FUCKING RIGHT

eIFKtOsZl8c

My dad showed me this yesterday lol

I’ve already told myself if someone tried looting a store in my community, I have no problem acting like I’m minding my own business then hard as I can hockey check him into a wall or on the ground as he goes by…then take off running

He’ll probably pick up all his stolen shit, or maybe chase me, but either way, I’ll get away and he’ll maybe think twice next time

[Botten]

Should have just held the guy until the police came.

No physical violence was needed.

The store owner’s depending on the state could have lost their business to the guy who was beaten.

The store has insurance none of that needed to happen. If truly an issue hire private security and pay for that security with increase costs to the retail. If you are one of the few places able to stay open you will receive business.

Violence, begets violence I hope no one enacts revenge.

[Trexller]

Should have just held the guy until the police came.

No physical violence was needed.

The store owner’s depending on the state could have lost their business to the guy who was beaten.

The store has insurance none of that needed to happen. If truly an issue hire private security and pay for that security with increase costs to the retail. If you are one of the few places able to stay open you will receive business.

Violence, begets violence I hope no one enacts revenge.

I can feel the cowardice in your heart

you know how the camera guy flip flops on his attitude and mental stance during the altercation based on who seems like they're gonna win?

that guy is 100x the man you are

candy ass bitch, no wonder your wife cheats.

[unsunghero]

Should have just held the guy until the police came.

No physical violence was needed.

The store owner’s depending on the state could have lost their business to the guy who was beaten.

The store has insurance none of that needed to happen. If truly an issue hire private security and pay for that security with increase costs to the retail. If you are one of the few places able to stay open you will receive business.

Violence, begets violence I hope no one enacts revenge.

While I agree with all of this, had this been in CA, holding until police comes is no long term solution since there won’t be any legal consequence

NY Times posted an article that the same 300ish people were responsible for 6000+ theft crimes. Obviously, they are either not getting, or able to completely ignore, the legal consequences

At least a beating they won’t ignore or forget

[Elizondo]

Should have just held the guy until the police came.

No physical violence was needed.

The store owner’s depending on the state could have lost their business to the guy who was beaten.

The store has insurance none of that needed to happen. If truly an issue hire private security and pay for that security with increase costs to the retail. If you are one of the few places able to stay open you will receive business.

Violence, begets violence I hope no one enacts revenge.

What would the police have done?

It's a Blue State. They don't arrest criminals.

[Homesteaded]

Should have just held the guy until the police came.

No physical violence was needed.

The store owner’s depending on the state could have lost their business to the guy who was beaten.

The store has insurance none of that needed to happen. If truly an issue hire private security and pay for that security with increase costs to the retail. If you are one of the few places able to stay open you will receive business.

Violence, begets violence I hope no one enacts revenge.

This is what happens when you stand for nothing, morals aren't a concern. You live with some malleable algorithm of how to react to situations that complicates with iterations.

[Elizondo]

This is what happens when you stand for nothing, morals aren't a concern. You live with some malleable algorithm of how to react to situations that complicates with iterations.

It's even worse

With no moral foundation, if the robber had killed the clerks, it would be justifiable to Botten because the robber would have gotten what he wanted

[unsunghero]

But yea, what’s sad is the legal system “working” in the minds of the county DA, will likely be both of those store employees getting felony assault charges

Mad world…

[Ooloo]

"Held the guy". Yes, simply politely ask him to chill for a sec until the cops come. What if he didn't want to be "held"? Also he brandished a knife, so the store owner's options were basically get robbed\stabbed or protect your property. Insurance doesn't just cover infinite losses, which is what will end up happening if other criminals see this guy just waltz in and get away with it.

He literally deserved to get beaten with a stick, sorry. Fuck around and find out. He was stealing a shitload of cigarettes, not exactly aladdin stealing a loaf of bread to survive. And he was essentially just getting caned in the legs and ass which isn't life threatening at all. Perfectly justifiable use of force imo. This is what happens when lib DA's don't prosecute crime, it's like psychology 101.

[unsunghero]

"Held the guy". Yes, simply politely ask him to chill for a sec until the cops come. What if he didn't want to be "held"?

This is where Jiu Jitsu could come in really handy (also assuming it’s 1 on 1)

Just get up!

If you can

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E-4I8H1PRd8

[Homesteaded]

not exactly aladdin stealing a loaf of bread to survive.

Got me good.

[Origen]

Nice celebration of violence, conservative reactionaries

[Trexller]

Nice celebration of violence, conservative reactionaries

^^^ This guy believes defense of property is wrong

Democrats are already drafting legislation to restrict public access to high-capacity wooden sticks

[unsunghero]

Nice celebration of violence, conservative reactionaries

CA thieving thugs already figured out life’s truth: if violence doesn’t solve all of your problems, then you’re not using enough of it

[Origen]

Yeah you really hide your racism well, good job, deeply afraid adult males

[unsunghero]

Yeah you really hide your racism well, good job, deeply afraid adult males

Nonsense, when we ask ourselves “unsung, what level of violence will make anyone, even government afraid? What level will make everyone in the world back down?”

And the answer? Cartel levels

They have taught us so much when it comes to unbridled levels of violence

[unsunghero]

Nonsense, when we ask ourselves “unsung, what level of violence will make anyone, even government afraid? What level will make everyone in the world back down?”

And the answer? Cartel levels

They have taught us so much when it comes to unbridled levels of violence

The reason given why the US won’t label the cartels in Mexico terrorist organizations and go after them the same way we have ISIS and the Taliban in the past is that the cartels don’t have a political or religious ideology and thus don’t fit the description, even after the cartels torture and kill multiple US citizens like they just did a few months back

But the real reason? Fear. There is almost nothing the cartels can do at this point on either side of the border that would make us want to engage with them on a large scale

And that is how you win by fear of violence

[aussenseiter]

Yeah you really hide your racism well, good job, deeply afraid adult males

LD8P8Mq3rVU

[Botten]

I can feel the cowardice in your heart

you know how the camera guy flip flops on his attitude and mental stance during the altercation based on who seems like they're gonna win?

that guy is 100x the man you are

candy ass bitch, no wonder your wife cheats.

You can be all the caveman you like but if you are dead you are nothing. You roll the dice in all altercations. In America where the number of guns out number the population it isn’t worth it. You only get one life and regardless of what you believe in when you die there is nothing after. And you are selfishly acting if you leave this world early, most have ones around us that love us or depend on us.

There is a time and place to be a hero.

Their are things worth fighting for in your life; like loved ones - not small monetary things that can be replaced through insurance.

Shame on you conservatives. Both the clerks and the theft are victims. If the theft had programs that weren’t defunded there would not be a necessary need to steal.

Private security can hold a person with limited worry about getting sued in an altercation.
Police can remove a trespasser or an aggressor giving them jail time; even in blue states.

Act smarter - then you and others around will live longer.

[Trexller]

^ written by a man who has never been in control of his life, or anything else

[Botten]

^ written by a man who has never been in control of his life, or anything else

No doubt I am not perfect. No one is.

But...

Wasn't it your own admittance you needed your parents to put you back on track to get an education.

[Ripp]

At least one Liberal can still reason and deal with reality.

IBZJCCPAp0Y

[aussenseiter]

In America where the number of guns out number the population it isn’t worth it. You only get one life and regardless of what you believe in when you die there is nothing after.

Check your math science boy. You've come to error.

A living person can have 15,000 guns or more.

A living person can only live once.

[unsunghero]

Their are things worth fighting for in your life; like loved ones - not small monetary things that can be replaced through insurance.


It’s a bit deeper than “things”

Criminology studies have proven some sort of “broken window” effect which I’ve heard of many times but can’t explain that well. Basically, crimes like vandalism and theft encourage more crime in any particular area. The “broken window” sort of de-sensitizes the population and normalizes crime to potential future criminals

There’s also the psychological effect of living in an area with lots of theft or especially witnessing it. Do you think if you happened to be in one of those stores you would be able to pop some headphones in and skip by the looting without a care in the world? Or would you be afraid, not knowing if this was some junkie psycho who might decide they won’t want witnesses

Not even counting the inconvenience of losing jobs when the stores close down, or having to drive far out of one’s way to shop, people in those communities don’t deserve to be living in fear on a day to day basis

[Botten]

It's even worse

With no moral foundation, if the robber had killed the clerks, it would be justifiable to Botten because the robber would have gotten what he wanted

This coming from the guy who honors a president who said:

“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

OR telling a P.O.W.

"I like people who weren’t captured"


Shame on you.

.

[Botten]

A living person can only live once.

is this ignoring multiverse theory? I know, I was. All values

[Elizondo]

This coming from the guy who honors a president who said:

“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

OR telling a P.O.W.

"I like people who weren’t captured"


Shame on you.

.

Zondo's Law confirmed once again

[aussenseiter]

“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

wgWjG44HBzg

[aussenseiter]

is this ignoring multiverse theory? I know, I was. All values

I dunno what that is but math has rules, son. You can't just compare the price of tea in China to Queen Mary's pubic hairs.

[Botten]

It’s a bit deeper than “things”

Criminology studies have proven some sort of “broken window” effect which I’ve heard of many times but can’t explain that well. Basically, crimes like vandalism and theft encourage more crime in any particular area. The “broken window” sort of de-sensitizes the population and normalizes crime to potential future criminals

There’s also the psychological effect of living in an area with lots of theft or especially witnessing it. Do you think if you happened to be in one of those stores you would be able to pop some headphones in and skip by the looting without a care in the world? Or would you be afraid, not knowing if this was some junkie psycho who might decide they won’t want witnesses

Not even counting the inconvenience of losing jobs when the stores close down, or having to drive far out of one’s way to shop, people in those communities don’t deserve to be living in fear on a day to day basis

This is where private security comes in - passing on the cost to the paying customers who will return (enjoying the safety).

As for the other - always be ready especially when it is your responsibility for your well being and the loved ones who count on you.