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Origen
08-09-2023, 11:19 PM
What’s a himbo?A male bimbo.
Origen
08-09-2023, 11:22 PM
Adults who claim superiority based on where they live, anything more immature?I would like to know how many, and which, if any, countries you have been to outside of the United States.
I've seen you claim superiority based on your geography - in that you think the United States is superior to all other countries.
aussenseiter
08-09-2023, 11:32 PM
I would like to know how many, and which, if any, countries you have been to outside of the United States.
I've seen you claim superiority based on your geography - in that you think the United States is superior to all other countries.
Two open seas: Atlantic and Pacific
No other fortress is so secure.
unsunghero
08-09-2023, 11:41 PM
I think she being sentimental, not literal.
Either way, I find it interesting
I don’t know that much legal stuff, but I did serve on 2 different juries, one criminal 2 day’er and one civil one day’er. In the criminal I was nominated as lead juror to organize the group and read our conclusion, because I was apparently pretty good at keeping the group talking, productive, on topic, and mediating any arguments/disagreements
Prior to any of this, as both attorneys decide on jury members we are all given a list of topics that the case pertains to (some pretty indirectly) and asked to announce any pre-existing biases. This seems like a quick way to get home because at least one of the attorneys isn’t going to like any biases whatsoever and I believe both have to agree on the selection (although my memory hazy, it’s been years)
Yet, an attorney in court announces what could be construed as an obvious bias, and gets away with it? I understand maybe it was meant in the figurative sense such as “I am for democracy” or some cheesy virtuous shit like that. But to wear a shirt of an obvious political movement which the defendant has been in a physical and legal feud with for years, the optics of that seem astoundingly bad to me
/shrug
unsunghero
08-09-2023, 11:43 PM
I would like to know how many, and which, if any, countries you have been to outside of the United States.
I've seen you claim superiority based on your geography - in that you think the United States is superior to all other countries.
Meh I think this as well but it’s just patriotism. I’m sure on paper there’s all sorts of categories the US lags on, but it’s like saying you think you have the prettiest wife or the best family in the world
aussenseiter
08-09-2023, 11:46 PM
Either way, I find it interesting
I don’t know that much legal stuff, but I did serve on 2 different juries, one criminal 2 day’er and one civil one day’er. In the criminal I was nominated as lead juror to organize the group and read our conclusion, because I was apparently pretty good at keeping the group talking, productive, on topic, and mediating any arguments/disagreements
Prior to any of this, as both attorneys decide on jury members we are all given a list of topics that the case pertains to (some pretty indirectly) and asked to announce any pre-existing biases. This seems like a quick way to get home because at least one of the attorneys isn’t going to like any biases whatsoever and I believe both have to agree on the selection (although my memory hazy, it’s been years)
Yet, an attorney in court announces what could be construed as an obvious bias, and gets away with it? I understand maybe it was meant in the figurative sense such as “I am for democracy” or some cheesy virtuous shit like that. But to wear a shirt of an obvious political movement which the defendant has been in a physical and legal feud with for years, the optics of that seem astoundingly bad to me
/shrug
Attorneys don't do the justicing and really ought to be biased in favor of their client(s).
It would be a big problem if a juror did it and they'd likely be kicked for an alternate.
unsunghero
08-09-2023, 11:51 PM
Also somewhere at the bottom of the article it said the defense attorney also said to the jury that she is going to “remember them” or “who they are” in a way that could be possibly construed with an implied threat of doxxing and future harassment
I forgot the exact statement and am too lazy to pull it up but once again, terrible optics
Origen
08-10-2023, 12:00 AM
Well that same attorney also was apparently quitting the industry and said that this was their last case if I remember that article you linked yesterday or the day before or whatever it was. Representing antifa is also a great way to ruin your reputation with the state, so any lawyer willing to go public with representing antifa heroes is okay in my book. Idealist lawyer beats public defender, every time.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 12:00 AM
Attorneys don't do the justicing and really ought to be biased in favor of their client(s).
It would be a big problem if a juror did it and they'd likely be kicked for an alternate.
Oh ya my bad, I had misread as Andy Ngo’s public defender. He’s usually on the receiving end of lawsuits and harassment, I forgot in this case he was the one suing. Lol disregard
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 12:01 AM
Well that same attorney also was apparently quitting the industry and said that this was their last case if I remember that article you linked yesterday or the day before or whatever it was. Representing antifa is also a great way to ruin your reputation with the state, so any lawyer willing to go public with representing antifa heroes is okay in my book. Idealist lawyer beats public defender, every time.
Nah I actually misread it, that’s my bad, disregard then
Botten
08-10-2023, 12:07 AM
Ngo was fired from the campus newspaper, the Portland State Vanguard. At the time, the editor-in-chief of the Vanguard said the firing was not motivated by his extreme right views, and that Ngo was using “half-truth” that “incited a reaction and implicated the student panelist,” thus putting them in imminent jeopardy.
The guy is a nut.
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/GettyImages-1152896318W.jpg
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 12:07 AM
Well that same attorney also was apparently quitting the industry and said that this was their last case if I remember that article you linked yesterday or the day before or whatever it was. Representing antifa is also a great way to ruin your reputation with the state, so any lawyer willing to go public with representing antifa heroes is okay in my book. Idealist lawyer beats public defender, every time.
Supporting antifa in a legal setting might be cause for an ethics investigation. They're bound by extra 'laws' because of their advantaged position.
Homesteaded
08-10-2023, 12:09 AM
I would like to know how many, and which, if any, countries you have been to outside of the United States.
I've seen you claim superiority based on your geography - in that you think the United States is superior to all other countries.
The United States of America, the greatest country to be from in known human history.
Don’t confuse that with me saying it’s perfect, or that country X is horrible. It’s an undeniable fact, the USA is the house on the hill. It won’t last forever, but it’s the best of the best.
"Well done is better than well said."
-Benjamin Franklin
Botten
08-10-2023, 12:18 AM
The United States of America, the greatest country to be from in known human history.
Don’t confuse that with me saying it’s perfect, or that country X is horrible. It’s an undeniable fact, the USA is the house on the hill. It won’t last forever, but it’s the best of the best.
"Well done is better than well said."
-Benjamin Franklin
Blind devotion to anything is never a wise idea.
wonder why these work in Japan but not here.
X3C_rpUTYuk
Trexller
08-10-2023, 12:25 AM
Blind devotion to anything is never a wise idea.
But Don't You Dare EVER question ANY Liberal talking point
and NEVER, EVER dare to think up a "wrong opinion"
Also, Trannies are GODS compared to you lesser mortals. Their superior morality trumps and belief system, religion or tradition.
543,956 Genders is a FACT OF NATURE
Trexller
08-10-2023, 12:28 AM
wonder why these work in Japan but not here.
because japanese people still have a sense of honor, respect for their fellow man and in general, can be trusted to do the right thing
Japan has fully automated hotels, restaurants and stores. Including alcohol service.
People don't take more than they need for their stay or their meal, and they adhere to drink limits at self-serve bars
Botten
08-10-2023, 12:30 AM
wonder why these work in Japan but not here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXZ-DQABUKU&t=177s
Low drug abuse, healthcare, programs and housing.
Make more cyber hotels :D
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 12:35 AM
Blind devotion to anything is never a wise idea.
Patriotism =/= blind devotion
“Blind devotion” is just manipulation of language
Aka “moral panic”, “meltdown” (both sides love using this on, etc
Neither Homesteaded nor I would be supportive of the US no matter what it did, which is what I would more consider “blind devotion”
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 12:37 AM
But Don't You Dare EVER question ANY Liberal talking point
and NEVER, EVER dare to think up a "wrong opinion"
Also, Trannies are GODS compared to you lesser mortals. Their superior morality trumps and belief system, religion or tradition.
543,956 Genders is a FACT OF NATURE
This is a decent point, speaking of “blind devotion” has Dems ever done something Botten disagrees with
Being able to find faults is part of thinking critically for oneself and not being completely manipulated by propaganda
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 12:42 AM
Like I said, the GOP being at war with itself I’ve never had a problem with
I’d rather lose elections but be thinking for myself rather than win them with a hive mind mentality
I remember when Horza used to post mocking GOP squabbling as if disagreement within one’s party is a worse thing than “blind loyalty”
Botten
08-10-2023, 12:42 AM
This is a decent point, speaking of “blind devotion” has Dems ever done something Botten disagrees with
Being able to find faults is part of thinking critically for oneself and not being completely manipulated by propaganda
Progression and tolerance verse scared hate and echo chambers.
You may want to examine your words.
Trexller
08-10-2023, 12:45 AM
yeah botten is the poster boy for drinking the kool aid
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 12:45 AM
Progression and tolerance verse scared hate and echo chambers.
You may want to examine your words.
I’ll re-state them: I’ve blasted many things about my political party here
You and Horza have never once said anything negative about democrats, but bring up “blind devotion”
Just sayin buddy
Trexller
08-10-2023, 12:47 AM
a lil google-fu and I found a Botten irl pic!
https://www.rrstar.com/gcdn/authoring/2013/04/17/NRRS/ghows-IR-2fb7a931-234a-4fe4-882c-eb5517eb9d9a-a965503d.jpeg
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 12:58 AM
a lil google-fu and I found a Botten irl pic!
https://www.rrstar.com/gcdn/authoring/2013/04/17/NRRS/ghows-IR-2fb7a931-234a-4fe4-882c-eb5517eb9d9a-a965503d.jpeg
I want him to so badly, even Rob negs on democrats
I think the best two responses would either be to quote that college thesis length research paper that one chick (Pink something?) quoted showing how it is statistically possible for a party or organization to have 100% of the time done things one agrees with
It used a lot of fancy words and arguments but THAT argument will never convince me there was no manipulation via propaganda. That’s just me being stubborn, I don’t buy it
Or he could say something like “I do disagree sometimes but won’t give you the satisfaction of hearing it”
Which I sort of understand. We tried for years to get my mom to swear, waiting for when she was most pissed and being like “just do it, get it out, you’ll feel better”….and she’d be like “oh….CRAP!” To this day she’s never said the F word. Sort of a similar situation
Botten
08-10-2023, 01:02 AM
I’ll re-state them: I’ve blasted many things about my political party here
You and Horza have never once said anything negative about democrats, but bring up “blind devotion”
Just sayin buddy
I am not green party; if that is what you are asking.
But you can't deny your party does welcome the likes of white supremacists and American neo-nazis groups. That really should be a red flag.
And Trexller you lose the meaning when you call me the Koolaid man. ewe...
Botten
08-10-2023, 01:07 AM
:(
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12390861/Maui-wildfires-Hawaii-Lahaina-ruins-massive-wildfires.html
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 01:16 AM
:(
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12390861/Maui-wildfires-Hawaii-Lahaina-ruins-massive-wildfires.html
This FB post by my stepdad’s family member in Maui today now makes a lot more sense to me
“Maui families looking for a loved one can call (808) 244-9056. Provide a first and last name to verify whether their family member is being treated at Maui Memorial. Feel free to share this information with the communities”
Edit: very sad, Maui was one of the most beautiful places I’ve been in my limited travels
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 01:18 AM
So boring
Same old boring crap
Lilly white skinny Low T Betas calling everyone racismz
So freaking boring
magnetaress
08-10-2023, 02:46 AM
What is weird is ppl in America. They get mad at the dumbest shit and they don't even need to make afternoon prayers and can still rott their brains on tiktok.
Now just because I think this is stupid doesn't mean I lack empathy.
This world is coookoooo catchu!
Origen
08-10-2023, 08:15 AM
The United States of America, the greatest country to be from in known human history.
Don’t confuse that with me saying it’s perfect, or that country X is horrible. It’s an undeniable fact, the USA is the house on the hill. It won’t last forever, but it’s the best of the best.
"Well done is better than well said."
-Benjamin FranklinYou have referred to other countries as shitholes and you didn't answer the question.
How many other countries, and if so, which ones?
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 08:53 AM
You have referred to other countries as shitholes and you didn't answer the question.
How many other countries, and if so, which ones?
https://i.imgur.com/LiughTe.png
Origen
08-10-2023, 09:01 AM
I've only been to one country in Africa, and it was one of the tourist friendly ones. But I don't refer to entire countries as shitholes based on American exceptionalism, America is full of shit.
Toxigen
08-10-2023, 09:02 AM
nice trans flag lmao
Homesteaded
08-10-2023, 09:42 AM
You have referred to other countries as shitholes and you didn't answer the question.
How many other countries, and if so, which ones?
Mexico, Aruba, Venezuela, Canada and Jamaica but I was young.
Origen
08-10-2023, 10:14 AM
Mexico, Aruba, Venezuela, Canada and Jamaica but I was young.Thank you for answering. There's lots of great places out there, including America, despite conservative efforts to destroy it.
Homesteaded
08-10-2023, 10:31 AM
Thank you for answering. There's lots of great places out there, including America, despite conservative efforts to destroy it.
There are also shithole countries where they kill gays and women are second class citizens.
Origen
08-10-2023, 10:50 AM
Sure there are. I suggest you abandon conservative "values" so that you don't help make America into that. Never wondered why your values and those of the Taliban are so... similar?
cd288
08-10-2023, 10:52 AM
Keep in mind cd288 that this “loser” is better than your skinnyfat ass at literally any physical competition or contest that could exist, you can pick anything
Not afraid to show myself IRL, not afraid to post my char info, while you are too afraid to do both
What exactly are you better than me at again?
Thank you for proving my point. But since you have your panties in a bunch I'll answer some of your questions.
I would say I'm better than you at being a sane and intelligent individual (clearly).
As far as physical stuff (did you really bring that up on an online forum as shit talking? What are we, in middle school? lol) I used to play professional rugby as a side job but stopped awhile back because I took a bad neck injury and decided it wasn't worth it. I was doing it for fun (in the US it's more low key in terms of you practice 3 nights a week or so, games on the weekends, so not a huge time commitment), not because I needed the money or because I wanted to make a serious career out of it...so not really worth the injury risk after that. So I suppose I would say you're probably not better than me at that?
Aren't you the one who posted a pic of you looking like a dough boy at your "personal training" job? Why are you bragging about that or that you're willing to post IRL info online to a bunch of strangers as though that makes you smart or tough lmao
On an unrelated note, I was sorry to hear about the home repairs you had to pay for. I recognize that for some people $45k is a large amount of money so I'm sorry you had to wipe out your bank account for it.
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 10:59 AM
Thank you for proving my point. But since you have your panties in a bunch I'll answer some of your questions.
I would say I'm better than you at being a sane and intelligent individual (clearly).
As far as physical stuff (did you really bring that up on an online forum as shit talking? What are we, in middle school? lol) I used to play professional rugby as a side job but stopped awhile back because I took a bad neck injury and decided it wasn't worth it (I was doing it for fun (in the US it's more low key in terms of you practice 3 nights a week or so, games on the weekends, so not a huge time commitment), not because I needed the money or because I wanted to make a serious career out of it...so not really worth the injury risk after that). So I suppose I would say you're probably not better than me at that?
Aren't you the one who posted a pic of you looking like a dough boy at your "personal training" job? Why are you bragging about that or that you're willing to post IRL info online to a bunch of strangers as though that makes you smart or tough lmao
On an unrelated note, I was sorry to hear about the home repairs you had to pay for. I recognize that for some people $45k is a large amount of money so I'm sorry you had to wipe out your bank account for it.
Taunting the poors is not a sane thing to do, milord.
cd288
08-10-2023, 11:05 AM
Taunting the poors is not a sane thing to do, milord.
Oh I wasn't taunting I was trying to be respectful
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 11:06 AM
Thank you for proving my point. But since you have your panties in a bunch I'll answer some of your questions.
I would say I'm better than you at being a sane and intelligent individual (clearly).
As far as physical stuff (did you really bring that up on an online forum as shit talking? What are we, in middle school? lol) I used to play professional rugby as a side job but stopped awhile back because I took a bad neck injury and decided it wasn't worth it (I was doing it for fun, not because I needed the money or because I wanted to make a serious career out of it...so not really worth the injury risk after that). So I suppose I would say you're probably not better than me at that?
Aren't you the one who posted a pic of you looking like a dough boy at your "personal training" job? Why are you bragging about that or that you're willing to post IRL info online to a bunch of strangers as though that makes you smart or tough lmao
On an unrelated note, I was sorry to hear about the home repairs you had to pay for. I recognize that for some people $45k is a large amount of money so I'm sorry you had to wipe out your bank account for it.
- I’m not nor have never been a personal trainer
- Never posted a pic of being a “dough boy”
- You called me a “loser”, but in literally any sort of competition involving anything with the human body other than MAYBE your ability to throw a stick with a ball (because every other physical aspect of rugby I can no doubt beat you on now since I still train physically quite a lot and you do not), I would “win” vs you at
- I figured that your literal last resort to thinking of things you could “win” would either be being a nerd on P99 or making money, looks like you used the money angle. Grats on keyboard warrioring something you can’t prove but it’s fine, I’ll take your word for making more money. Behavioral health doesn’t pay that well but enjoy my job and have my own $450k home, a home that has gone up in value $200k in just the last few years because everyone from shitty blue states wants to come into my area in my state, so this is a high demand area
I want to apologize for my behavior before…
I am truly sorry to interrupt your guy’s game of Trump derangement syndrome grab ass. I know you were poised to tell that story again of how you met him IRL, and he bragged about how he dupes his followers into giving him money but somehow in a totally worse way than how every other politician dupes their followers into giving them money. Yknow the story I’m talking about, you and trump at the country club, the story that single handedly is responsible for 10,000 of your Reddit karma over the years, the one that just crushes there in upvotes
You were just about to tell that incredible tale, and here comes unsung swooping in with his stupid memes. And if I recall you said you were having an intellectual discussion that I interrupted with things like we got im boys. But the reality is that people have been saying the same shit for the past 5+ years now and trump still has yet to see the inside of a prison cell. This is despite that stalker Alvin Bragg admitting he’s sued trump hundreds and hundreds of times. That’s probably more times than you’ve emailed complaints to the mods here that I hurt your feelings
So I don’t consider a meme mocking that concept very “stupid” or unrealistic. Nor do I consider one’s mocking immigrants attacking citizens and prostituting themselves as stupid or unrealistic since I just linked a story that said as such
Origen
08-10-2023, 11:06 AM
I paid 2k for a class in October a few weeks ago and I thought that was more money than I like to spend.
I justified this expense by considering how much I have spent on alcohol and delta8 gummies in the last five years, and those don't potentially earn me more money.
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 11:16 AM
to throw a stick with a ball
That's lacrosse. Rugby is more like soccer wrestling.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 11:20 AM
That's lacrosse. Rugby is more like soccer wrestling.
Oh yeah then nothing physical. My bad
Also
“Yeah right like ima let you doxx me by showing an IRL pic” said the fuckugly skinnyfat nerd to the guy who barely knows what doxxing means, much less how to do it
Lol
Landroval
08-10-2023, 11:23 AM
Morning folks. Looks like we're off to a good start today. Sanity competitions should be an Olympic sport if you ask me.
Origen
08-10-2023, 11:23 AM
Lacrosse is supposed to be a contact sport, or so I thought. Never even tried a game of it tbh. Or rugby. I was a soccer and baseball kid.
I did play cricket against a bunch of other kids in the UK once, having never once played it, and me and the other kids in my church group schooled them at their own game. They challenged us to a game of baseball and we also beat them at that.
Then the anglican nuns yelled at us
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 11:31 AM
Morning folks. Looks like we're off to a good start today. Sanity competitions should be an Olympic sport if you ask me.
I personally love clapping back, some of the happier parts of my day
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 11:38 AM
See you tomorrow cd288, don’t forget to hire a ghost writer for your comeback with all your money
Origen
08-10-2023, 11:52 AM
I will accept cryptocurrency payments for ghostposting snarky comebacks.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 12:07 PM
I will accept cryptocurrency payments for ghostposting snarky comebacks.
Speaking of snarky comebacks
Here’s another thing about cd288…
I challenged him to post his p99 virtual character’s info many times, similar to how lots of people do in their sigs, knowing he would bitch out. I even said in fairness I would if he did (showing screenshots as proof)
And the REASON he would bitch out is the guy has made it a habit over the years of coming into threads with snarky pseudo-intellectual snobby statements, pissing a lot of people off in the process. Now that might sound hypocritical coming from me, but I generally don’t barge my way into threads to dunk on strangers, rather I tend to just clap back when people come at me
If cd288 ever did decide to take me up on that offer and post his char info, I’d probably make that shit my sig. And I’m sure his first thought would be “lol what a stalker, putting my char in his sig”, but then he would remember all the people he’s pissed off and plans to piss off in the future with his snarky attempts at being clever here. He’d be thinking about it night, worried about ruining his e-rep in a game that’s clearly way more important to him than me. I wouldn’t put it past the guy to literally lose sleep over it
That’s why I say he’s a little bitch, too scared to even post his video game mains out of fear of what his behavior might do to his virtual e-rep. He gives Tox shit all the time, but at least Tox has the balls to link his chars
Anyway, always found that funny
Origen
08-10-2023, 12:23 PM
I don't understand pride behind video game characters.
I'm trying to find a pickleball league that isn't 55+ and isn't in some gated community. Bowling starts up again soon, I'm stoked, it's been years.
Homesteaded
08-10-2023, 12:27 PM
Sure there are. I suggest you abandon conservative "values" so that you don't help make America into that. Never wondered why your values and those of the Taliban are so... similar?
Yes, Taliban and Christians have so many similarities. Please share these for the class.
Landroval
08-10-2023, 12:31 PM
I will accept cryptocurrency payments for ghostposting snarky comebacks.
That's the entrepreneurial spirit!
Origen
08-10-2023, 12:49 PM
Yes, Taliban and Christians have so many similarities. Please share these for the class.Your go-to is being defensive about your supposed Christian beliefs, but I didn't mention them.
Anyways, here's this shit: https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/why-american-far-right-openly-admiring-taliban-n1278245
Landroval
08-10-2023, 12:50 PM
We got em on the ropes now
cd288
08-10-2023, 01:03 PM
Speaking of snarky comebacks
Here’s another thing about cd288…
I challenged him to post his p99 virtual character’s info many times, similar to how lots of people do in their sigs, knowing he would bitch out. I even said in fairness I would if he did (showing screenshots as proof)
And the REASON he would bitch out is the guy has made it a habit over the years of coming into threads with snarky pseudo-intellectual snobby statements, pissing a lot of people off in the process. Now that might sound hypocritical coming from me, but I generally don’t barge my way into threads to dunk on strangers, rather I tend to just clap back when people come at me
If cd288 ever did decide to take me up on that offer and post his char info, I’d probably make that shit my sig. And I’m sure his first thought would be “lol what a stalker, putting my char in his sig”, but then he would remember all the people he’s pissed off and plans to piss off in the future with his snarky attempts at being clever here. He’d be thinking about it night, worried about ruining his e-rep in a game that’s clearly way more important to him than me. I wouldn’t put it past the guy to literally lose sleep over it
That’s why I say he’s a little bitch, too scared to even post his video game mains out of fear of what his behavior might do to his virtual e-rep. He gives Tox shit all the time, but at least Tox has the balls to link his chars
Anyway, always found that funny
Lol triple posts including two walls of text...someone is kind of unhinged today huh? Don't get so pissy dude, tomorrow is Friday it's almost the weekend! Although maybe the weekend isn't as exciting if you're only working 9-5.
Are we all sure this dude isn't an alt account of UnchainedFury? Or maybe RecondoJoe? His writing style is super similar.
But yeah you were thinking of lacrosse. The simple way to think about rugby if you're not familiar with it is imagine what it would be like to play American football without pads or helmets. Obviously that's simplistic since the rules etc are very different, but an easy way to think about it if you don't know anything about the physicality of the sport. Also, I was being legitimate when I said sorry about your home repairs btw.
but I generally don’t barge my way into threads to dunk on strangers, rather I tend to just clap back when people come at me
I was talking with someone in this thread about the topic and you came in and started posting mediocre memes to try and troll. So this is an ironic comment coming from you lol.
He gives Tox shit all the time, but at least Tox has the balls to link his chars
I give Tox shit because he's a racist and told people that their family members deserve to die if they wore masks or got a vaccine. He's a terrible person, which is why he's been kicked out of all the major guilds. Not sure how "having the balls to link his chars" somehow absolves him of being a racist POS, but okay...
cd288
08-10-2023, 01:05 PM
I don't understand pride behind video game characters.
I'm trying to find a pickleball league that isn't 55+ and isn't in some gated community. Bowling starts up again soon, I'm stoked, it's been years.
Pickleball is fun. We've got a lot of various rec leagues for it here...although sometimes you have the people who take it way too seriously
Origen
08-10-2023, 01:21 PM
The failure of the supposedly anti-racist alt-righters here to address their own fascist microcosm in the form of Toxigen speaks volumes about their beliefs, and it's the things that they won't say that contain their actual ideology.
Origen
08-10-2023, 01:22 PM
Okay that or they all blocked him, I guess. He's the sorta person the village chases away with spears.
Landroval
08-10-2023, 01:30 PM
Continue.....
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 01:34 PM
Lol triple posts including two walls of text...someone is kind of unhinged today huh? Don't get so pissy dude, tomorrow is Friday it's almost the weekend! Although maybe the weekend isn't as exciting if you're only working 9-5.
Are we all sure this dude isn't an alt account of UnchainedFury? Or maybe RecondoJoe? His writing style is super similar.
But yeah you were thinking of lacrosse. The simple way to think about rugby if you're not familiar with it is imagine what it would be like to play American football without pads or helmets. Obviously that's simplistic since the rules etc are very different, but an easy way to think about it if you don't know anything about the physicality of the sport. Also, I was being legitimate when I said sorry about your home repairs btw.
I was talking with someone in this thread about the topic and you came in and started posting mediocre memes to try and troll. So this is an ironic comment coming from you lol.
I give Tox shit because he's a racist and told people that their family members deserve to die if they wore masks or got a vaccine. He's a terrible person, which is why he's been kicked out of all the major guilds. Not sure how "having the balls to link his chars" somehow absolves him of being a racist POS, but okay...
I triple post all the time, has nothing to do with you ;)
And yes, I came in posting memes making fun of your TDS before you could re-tell your silly story of how you met him, and you got mad and called me 3 different words for dumb, so I insulted you back
Then you said “hey man chill out, it’s almost the weekend!”
While still dodging me calling you out for being too much of a little bitch to post your char info. You could teach a college course on dodging you do it so well
Landroval
08-10-2023, 01:35 PM
Shake it off, man. You're saner than me
cd288
08-10-2023, 01:45 PM
The failure of the supposedly anti-racist alt-righters here to address their own fascist microcosm in the form of Toxigen speaks volumes about their beliefs, and it's the things that they won't say that contain their actual ideology.
That's an interesting point actually
cd288
08-10-2023, 01:47 PM
I triple post all the time, has nothing to do with you ;)
And yes, I came in posting memes making fun of your TDS before you could re-tell your silly story of how you met him, and you got mad and called me 3 different words for dumb, so I insulted you back
Then you said “hey man chill out, it’s almost the weekend!”
While still dodging me calling you out for being too much of a little bitch to post your char info. You could teach a college course on dodging you do it so well
Lol I love how you always default to "this person won't post their char info" as though that's relevant to whether or not you're a total moron
Still waiting for you to own up to your whiney threat that you were quitting P99 and the forums because of a change the staff made. You talk about "having balls" all the time, yet you're the one who made this big post about how you were leaving and you don't have the balls to actually do it (possibly has something to do with you having nothing better to do with your life than be here - but if I'm wrong you could easily prove that). Soft.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 01:49 PM
Shake it off, man. You're saner than me
His attempt at an Olive branch is a bunch of bs
Like I said, the dude frequently comes in looking for attempts to dunk on me and others, which is why he’s too scared to post his char
So forgive me for not falling for his fake attempt at making nice while he winds up his next synonymous insult tirade for next week
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 01:52 PM
Lol I love how you always default to "this person won't post their char info" as though that's relevant to whether or not you're a total moron
Still waiting for you to own up to your whiney threat that you were quitting P99 and the forums because of a change the staff made. You talk about "having balls" all the time, yet you're the one who made this big post about how you were leaving and you don't have the balls to actually do it (possibly has something to do with you having nothing better to do with your life than be here - but if I'm wrong you could easily prove that). Soft.
No it’s relevant to your caustic personality pissing off lots of people here and making you terrified about ruining your e-rep, which is also a reflection of how unhealthy a level that game is important to you
Lol way to wind up that post from back in the day like the wind up toy you are…your one comeback, and I did stop playing for like years at a time. The fact I still post on the forum for fun during idle time at work or taking a shit means nothing, but feel free to try to find fault with it
cd288
08-10-2023, 01:59 PM
No it’s relevant to your caustic personality pissing off lots of people here and making you terrified about ruining your e-rep, which is also a reflection of how unhealthy a level that game is important to you
Lol way to wind up that post from back in the day like the wind up toy you are…your one comeback, and I did stop playing for like years at a time. The fact I still post on the forum for fun during idle time at work or taking a shit means nothing, but feel free to try to find fault with it
"Pissing lots of people off here" I only piss you off bud. Well, and UnchainedFury, but everyone pisses him off lol (plus he's banned now, so).
your one comeback
"one comeback" says the guy whose community college level education only allows him to think up arguments like "you won't post your character names" and "hurr durr I'm gonna claim I'm physically tougher than you!"
The fact I still post on the forum for fun during idle time at work or taking a shit means nothing, but feel free to try to find fault with it
Well I mean, you did say you were leaving the forums too. I was just pointing out on the topic of having balls to back shit up that you don't back up your own threats. Seems like you are too afraid to let go of P99 after your toothless post in RnF. Could prove me wrong pretty easily though.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 02:02 PM
"Pissing lots of people off here" I only piss you off bud. Well, and UnchainedFury, but everyone pisses him off lol (plus he's banned now, so).
"one comeback" says the guy whose community college level education only allows him to think up arguments like "you won't post your character names" and "hurr durr I'm gonna claim I'm physically tougher than you!"
Well I mean, you did say you were leaving the forums too. I was just pointing out on the topic of having balls to back shit up that you don't back up your own threats. Seems like you are too afraid to let go of P99 after your toothless post in RnF. Could prove me wrong pretty easily though.
If you didn’t piss off a lot of people here and aren’t afraid then post your char info and prove it, it’s pretty simple
You’re pretty backed into a corner on this. Being afraid that your forum antics has or would ruin your precious e-rep is a pretty plausible reason for anyone reading as to why you won’t post your char info like lots of people do
But consult your ghost writer you pay with your bags of money to write up some elaborate other reason if you want. I personally won’t believe it and I imagine most other people won’t either
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 02:11 PM
"hurr durr I'm gonna claim I'm physically tougher than you!"
I am physically tougher than you. If you want to do a timed race at any length, or a video recorded lift of any weight, or literally any other physical activity and post to compare, I’d be glad to prove it. Pretty easy to prove that kind of stuff
cd288
08-10-2023, 02:13 PM
If you didn’t piss off a lot of people here and aren’t afraid then post your char info and prove it, it’s pretty simple
You’re pretty backed into a corner on this. Being afraid that your forum antics has or would ruin your precious e-rep is a pretty plausible reason for anyone reading as to why you won’t post your char info like lots of people do
But consult your ghost writer you pay with your bags of money to write up some elaborate other reason if you want. I personally won’t believe it and I imagine most other people won’t either
You seem to be the only unhinged person on here who thinks that's relevant lol. My char's first name is Unsunghero and the surname is Hasalowiq
Tell you what, I'll put my char names in my sig if you agree to have the staff ban your account and the IPs and computer IDs you've used on your forum account so that you actually have to put your money where your mouth is on your prissy little rant about "waaaaaa I'm leaving cause I don't like a change the staff made"
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But at any rate, back to the topic of the thread at hand. Did you guys see Trump demanded in court that the federal government build him a SCIF at Mar a Lago? Lolll
Excited for the Georgia charges now. Those are state, which means they are not pardonable even if Trump somehow won the Presidency again.
cd288
08-10-2023, 02:14 PM
I am physically tougher than you. If you want to do a timed race at any length, or a video recorded lift of any weight, or literally any other physical activity and post to compare, I’d be glad to prove it. Pretty easy to prove that kind of stuff
That would actually be fun. Once my elbow is fixed I'm down
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 02:17 PM
You seem to be the only unhinged person on here who thinks that's relevant lol. My char's first name is Unsunghero and the surname is Hasalowiq
Tell you what, I'll put my char names in my sig if you agree to have the staff ban your account and the IPs and computer IDs you've used on your forum account so that you actually have to put your money where your mouth is on your prissy little rant about "waaaaaa I'm leaving cause I don't like a change the staff made"
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But at any rate, back to the topic of the thread at hand. Did you guys see Trump demanded in court that the federal government build him a SCIF at Mar a Lago? Lolll
Excited for the Georgia charges now. Those are state, which means they are not pardonable even if Trump somehow won the Presidency again.
How does doing something lots of people do (posting char info) have anything to do with me getting myself banned again? Nice “trade” but no thanks. I already said in fairness I would post my char info as well
Also, you moron, did you forget that the change STILL hasn’t been made? Use that big brain IQ and try to remember what the change was. Has it been made? Does it seem to make sense why I might still be here?
It’s ok if you forgot that like you probably forget a lot of things, like how you claim none of the staff cared despite the lead dev responding directly to me
Change that subject, dodge master
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 02:17 PM
That would actually be fun. Once my elbow is fixed I'm down
I’ll hold you to that, and you won’t find the results fun. Start winding up your next excuse
cd288
08-10-2023, 02:19 PM
How does doing something lots of people do (posting char info) have anything to do with me getting myself banned again? Nice “trade” but no thanks. I already said in fairness I would post my char info as well
Also, you moron, did you forget that the change STILL hasn’t been made? Use that big brain IQ and try to remember what the change was. Has it been made? Does it seem to make sense why I might still be here?
It’s ok if you forgot that like you probably forget a lot of things, like how you claim none of the staff cared despite the lead dev responding directly to me
Change that subject, dodge master
Well yeah changes here take a very long time to be made because the lead staff members have real lives and aren't paid to do this job. You seemed to be upset that the change was going to happen eventually and that you felt staff made changes here arbitrarily in general and that's why you were leaving. But nice excuse.
I wouldn't really call it a change of subject. More actually bringing things back to the topic of the thread because I'm sure other forum users would rather a thread not be hijacked. But okay.
cd288
08-10-2023, 02:21 PM
I’ll hold you to that, and you won’t find the results fun. Start winding up your next excuse
Yeah just gotta finish off the PT on it. Query how it necessarily relates to "toughness" but I'll humor you nonetheless.
Also relevant for the parameters are what you currently train for. Are you primarily HIIT and endurance? Do you powerlift? Etc. Essentially, what's your training regimen of choice?
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 02:23 PM
Well yeah changes here take a very long time to be made because the lead staff members have real lives and aren't paid to do this job. You seemed to be upset that the change was going to happen eventually and that you felt staff made changes here arbitrarily in general and that's why you were leaving. But nice excuse.
I wouldn't really call it a change of subject. More actually bringing things back to the topic of the thread because I'm sure other forum users would rather a thread not be hijacked. But okay.
Oh how dare I realize that the change isn’t going to happen and not still leave for literally NO reason now, because leaving for no reason would be the “smart” thing to do, right? I guess I just couldn’t think of going with that big brain play with my limited community college education, forgive me
And that’s fine, I’ve said my peace, feel free to change the subject while looking around for the next stranger here you plan to try to dunk on further ruining your potential precious e-rep
cd288
08-10-2023, 02:25 PM
And that’s fine, I’ve said my peace, feel free to change the subject while looking around for the next stranger here you plan to try to dunk on further ruining your potential precious e-rep
It's alarming to me that you are this unstable yet you treat people in behavioral health lol
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 02:31 PM
Yeah just gotta finish off the PT on it. Query how it necessarily relates to "toughness" but I'll humor you nonetheless.
Also relevant for the parameters are what you currently train for. Are you primarily HIIT and endurance? Do you powerlift? Etc. Essentially, what's your training regimen of choice?
You pick the parameters. Any sort of lift, a race at any distance, etc
I lift about 1.5-2hrs/day after work and work out a broken up 3-4ish hours on each of my 3 off days in different sessions. I just do my own thing lifting, I don’t do a HIIT or powerlift. When I do cardio it’s usually a 3-5 mile run, cardio hiking, or swimming laps. These I do about 3-4 times/week
This was most recent physique pic, I censored it even further because I was in my boxers and that’s a bit risqué for the forums here, even though in the original I was covering my junk with a shirt in my hand
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 02:33 PM
It's alarming to me that you are this unstable yet you treat people in behavioral health lol
Uh oh insulting me means he’s unstable
Yeah worked in the field 16 years now, managed to not get fired but that’s because I just intimidate everyone right? With my craziness? Just got a bonus last week too
Origen
08-10-2023, 02:45 PM
It's alarming to me that you are this unstable yet you treat people in behavioral health lolCue that scene from Traffic where the advisor dude says to Michael Douglas "We can turn it into a qualification" regarding his drug-addicted child and his appointment to the DEA or whatever it was
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 02:56 PM
Cue that scene from Traffic where the advisor dude says to Michael Douglas "We can turn it into a qualification" regarding his drug-addicted child and his appointment to the DEA or whatever it was
Having a history of substance abuse is actually a qualification for certain positions in behavioral health. Not any that I’m in, but an entry-level position called peer support REQUIRES the person to either have experience as a former addict or experience being a patient for behavioral health services
Normally we are trained to not share personal info about our past with clients (unlike education where some teachers want to tell their students all about their personal lives these days it seems) UNLESS you are a peer support position, then it’s strongly encouraged
Peer supports usually start out working at rehabs, sober living homes, and behavioral health hospital inpatient units assisting people with resources
I always think of it from that line from Training Day (in regards to needing a substance abuse past to be an effective peer support):
Landroval
08-10-2023, 02:58 PM
Bring lube
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 03:05 PM
Kk speaking of work I only able to post because we had some cancellations today but I need to do paperwork so I’m out. Said my peace
Origen
08-10-2023, 03:07 PM
I know, when I went to rehab like all of the nurses were recovered addicts and that gave it some weight. Never did touch them benzos again.
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 03:12 PM
Okay that or they all blocked him, I guess. He's the sorta person the village chases away with spears.
Tox isn't smart enough to be worth responding to, there's no hope for him.
If you really want to make me feel bad, complain about talking to Gwaihir. :p
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 03:14 PM
But at any rate, back to the topic of the thread at hand. Did you guys see Trump demanded in court that the federal government build him a SCIF at Mar a Lago? Lolll
Excited for the Georgia charges now. Those are state, which means they are not pardonable even if Trump somehow won the Presidency again.
I remember reading that Mar a Lago did have a SCIF during his presidency.
Imagine those units have to be continually authorized and the new executive chose to rescind it or simply not extend it. Do I have it right that they're airwalled? I don't see Tromp thinking that rule or any other applies to him of course lol.
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 03:18 PM
Georgia - the current apologia on the bird website is a tall yarn about Hawaii in 1960 and 'false' Kennedy alternate electors. Or Nixon electors? Whatever.
Origen
08-10-2023, 03:26 PM
I wouldn't put it past Kemp to just pardon all of it to get back into Orange Man's good graces. No idea if it even works like that.
I still wanna see the Fani Willis attack ad, ol' orange man is clearly trying to get his supporters to go violence her
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 03:39 PM
I think unsung is *against* mutilating and sterilizing kids rather than being in favor of it, so he's definitely more stable than his critics up in here
Origen
08-10-2023, 03:43 PM
Never pass up a chance to talk about children's genitals and then scream at everyone for being insane because they don't constantly post about children's genitals
Just Ooloo having a normal Thursday afternoon!
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 03:53 PM
Yeah I think it's wrong to mutilate and sterilize kids, personally. Apparently this stance is controversial.
I need to consider the many nuances of mutilating and sterilizing kids and how it's actually good.
Origen
08-10-2023, 04:04 PM
Well, for starters, you're fine with it if it involves US soldiers doing the mutilating, but totally opposed when it's a child/parent/doctor doing AMA approved medical science in a peaceful setting
Well, for starters, you're fine with it if it involves US soldiers doing the mutilating, but totally opposed when it's a child/parent/doctor doing AMA approved medical science in a peaceful setting
Not to mention was totally cool with going around coughing COVID into geriatric faces during the pandemic. The appeal to the sanctity of body and life is hilarious in these people.
Homesteaded
08-10-2023, 04:52 PM
Not to mention was totally cool with going around coughing COVID into geriatric faces during the pandemic. The appeal to the sanctity of body and life is hilarious in these people.
Still afraid of Covid with the 99.7% survival rate.
Origen
08-10-2023, 04:53 PM
Now post the survival rate of the vaccine :rolleyes:
Moron Liberals vote for these fools and then complain when they do what Liberals do. Absolute morons.
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Homesteaded
08-10-2023, 05:04 PM
Now post the survival rate of the vaccine :rolleyes:
Still calling it a vaccine eh?
The number isn't 0.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 05:06 PM
Well, for starters, you're fine with it if it involves US soldiers doing the mutilating, but totally opposed when it's a child/parent/doctor doing AMA approved medical science in a peaceful setting
Nah I think it's wrong to sterilize and mutilate children in any setting at all, actually.
It's only "approved medical science" if you conveniently ignore all the scientists who correctly identify it as being completely insane.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 05:12 PM
Guys a soldier accidentally killed a kid during a war.
This is the same as mutilating completely healthy kids on purpose, for profit.
-Origen big brain revelation of the day
Origen
08-10-2023, 05:21 PM
Medical Organization Statements
Leading medical groups recognize the medical necessity of treatments for gender dysphoria and endorse such treatments. Most of these groups have also explicitly rejected insurance exclusions for transgender-related care.
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Dermatology
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Nursing
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Association
American Medical Student Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Public Health Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
GLMA: Health Professionals Advancing LGBTQ Equality
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women's Health
National Association of Social Workers
National Commission on Correctional Health Care
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine
World Medical Association
World Professional Association for Transgender Health
Hmm yeah think I will ignore those few doctors who are getting money from billionaires that disagree with the above
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 05:24 PM
Woody Harrelson is supporting RFK Jr. Dude just can't get enough spotlight from the Kennedy family.
Still afraid of Covid with the 99.7% survival rate.
And the survival rate for 70+ year old folks with comorbidities, before monoclonal antibodies and vaccine, which was the time I was talking about.
That shit ravaged nursing homes and the geriatric community, and they accounted for the vast majority of deaths. It's the reason we wore masks and tried to limit the spread, to protect them. But yea, you don't give a fuck about them. Jesus calling them home, right?
Not to mention was totally cool with going around coughing COVID into geriatric faces during the pandemic. The appeal to the sanctity of body and life is hilarious in these people.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 05:34 PM
Medical Organization Statements
Leading medical groups recognize the medical necessity of treatments for gender dysphoria and endorse such treatments. Most of these groups have also explicitly rejected insurance exclusions for transgender-related care.
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Dermatology
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Nursing
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Association
American Medical Student Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Public Health Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
GLMA: Health Professionals Advancing LGBTQ Equality
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women's Health
National Association of Social Workers
National Commission on Correctional Health Care
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine
World Medical Association
World Professional Association for Transgender Health
Hmm yeah think I will ignore those few doctors who are getting money from billionaires that disagree with the above
All of those organizations probably endorsed lobotomies too :(
Then somebody sane realized it was totally crazy and they stopped doing them.
Also lol at some of these names "the american academy of nurse-midwives" yeah let's see what their opinion is on fuel injection while we're at it.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 05:40 PM
And the survival rate for 70+ year old folks with comorbidities, before monoclonal antibodies and vaccine, which was the time I was talking about.
That shit ravaged nursing homes and the geriatric community, and they accounted for the vast majority of deaths. It's the reason we wore masks and tried to limit the spread, to protect them. But yea, you don't give a fuck about them. Jesus calling them home, right?
The flu and the common cold are also extremely deadly to old people. I trust you were always wearing medical masks like a psycho to prevent giving grandma those ailments too or nah?
Here I'll even *give* you the consistent position: "Yes, ooloo, we should always wear masks around old people, even if covid didn't exist.". Just say that and stop looking retarded.
hundreds of millions of Americans beholden to legislative monopoly of pointless middlemen insurance companies who systematically deny doctor-recommended care for profit, killing thousands, and bilking millions more out of all their money (medical debt the most common cause of bankruptcy, and most of those are INSURED).... but yea let's argue about transgender care.
The flu and the common cold are also extremely deadly to old people. I trust you were always wearing medical masks like a psycho to prevent giving grandma those ailments too or nah?
Here I'll even *give* you the consistent position: "Yes, ooloo, we should always wear masks around old people, even if covid didn't exist.". Just say that and stop looking retarded.
I worked in a nursing home during COVID, I was required to get a flu shot to even enter the building. Early in the pandemic, the more pernicious strains were far more deadly to elderly with comorbidities than the flu is. And yes, with a common cold or flu symptoms the protocol is not stay the fuck home.
Botten
08-10-2023, 05:44 PM
Nah I think it's wrong to sterilize and mutilate children in any setting at all, actually....
How does your echo chamber always push you to chant the wrong things.
You know if an infant is born with hypospadias surgical repair is recommended because it affects fertility, sexual intercourse, cosmesis and even the ability to void comfortably.
In fact, if an infant is born with epispadias they will in some cases die without surgery to their genitals.
In extreme ambiguous genitalia issues a child will have a horrible adolescence or adult life without surgery to reconstruct or remove part of their genital(s).
Additionally were you aware that the testes descended after the first year? If they don't it is necessary to perform a laparoscopy surgery.
I bet you are thinking that isn't mutilation and perhaps requires a simple snip... only the testes are intro-abdominal. If cryptorchidism isn't fixed it affects fertility potential.
STRANGELY - Male circumcision has a host of benefits but isn't necessary and somehow the religious right is okay with this type of mutilation. :rolleyes:
You don't even have a background that remotely studied human anatomy. You are listening to right politicians trying to hype up their voter base in what will be one of the weakest turn outs in 2024.
You want to know why the republican party still backs Trump? Not because he is a strong candidate because they need any amount of number of diehard republicans to go to the polls to prevent the other branches of the government grossly going to the democrats (namely 66% in the senate).
By taking an issue like gender dysphoria that has been taking place more than a decade now (even during the Trump admin) GOP politicians are desperately trying to re-energize the Christian voter base. Saying it is against what God intended for his children. It has been going on for a while and the only Trans the Trump administration attacked during his administration was those in the army (disgustingly taking their medical benefits and their rights to serve away).
You aren't fighting the good fight you are falling in line baaaaaaa'ing on command as your party is further brainwashing you.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 05:50 PM
I worked in a nursing home during COVID, I was required to get a flu shot to even enter the building. Early in the pandemic, the more pernicious strains were far more deadly to elderly with comorbidities than the flu is. And yes, with a common cold or flu symptoms the protocol is not stay the fuck home.
That's great but you totally evaded the point. Did you wear a mask around old people before covid or no?
Your sniffles might have killed grandma, after all. Why do you even leave the house? You might have something asymptomatic that could kill a cancer patient shopping for groceries. What kind of monster are you?
Origen
08-10-2023, 05:51 PM
All of those organizations probably endorsed lobotomies too :(
Then somebody sane realized it was totally crazy and they stopped doing them.
Also lol at some of these names "the american academy of nurse-midwives" yeah let's see what their opinion is on fuel injection while we're at it.If you knew anything about science, you would know that is how it always worked.
If you have scientific evidence of your anti-trans position, I suggest you share it with the scientists.
However, you and I both know that evidence does not exist
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 05:51 PM
How does your echo chamber always push you to chant the wrong things.
You know if an infant is born with hypospadias surgical repair is recommended because it affects fertility, sexual intercourse, cosmesis and even the ability to void comfortably.
In fact, if an infant is born with epispadias they will in some cases die without surgery to their genitals.
In extreme ambiguous genitalia issues a child will have a horrible adolescence or adult life without surgery to reconstruct or remove part of their genital(s).
Additionally were you aware that the testes descended after the first year? If they don't it is necessary to perform a laparoscopy surgery.
I bet you are thinking that isn't mutilation and perhaps requires a simple snip... only the testes are intro-abdominal. If cryptorchidism isn't fixed it affects fertility potential.
STRANGELY - Male circumcision has a host of benefits but isn't necessary and somehow the religious right is okay with this type of mutilation. :rolleyes:
You don't even have a background that remotely studied human anatomy. You are listening to right politicians trying to hype up their voter base in what will be one of the weakest turn outs in 2024.
You want to know why the republican party still backs Trump? Not because he is a strong candidate because they need any amount of number of diehard republicans to go to the polls to prevent the other branches of the government grossly going to the democrats (namely 66% in the senate).
By taking an issue like gender dysphoria that has been taking place more than a decade now (even during the Trump admin) GOP politicians are desperately trying to re-energize the Christian voter base. Saying it is against what God intended for his children. It has been going on for a while and the only Trans the Trump administration attacked during his administration was those in the army (disgustingly taking their medical benefits and their rights to serve away).
You aren't fighting the good fight you are falling in line baaaaaaa'ing on command as your party is further brainwashing you.
Wow that's all great man. I'm against sterilizing and mutilating *healthy* kids. Not kids with two-heads syndrome or whatever you're ranting about.
And yeah I'm against circumcision too, although one might argue it's slightly less invasive than sterilizing kids and cutting healthy breasts off confused teenage girls, ya know? Are you familiar with the expression "muddying the waters"?
That's great but you totally evaded the point. Did you wear a mask around old people before covid or no?
Your sniffles might have killed grandma, after all. Why do you even leave the house? You might have something asymptomatic that could kill a cancer patient shopping for groceries. What kind of monster are you?
Yea you're an illiterate moron, I didn't evade the point. Masking isn't necessary with the flu because 1. We have flu shots, 2. It isn't near as deadly as those first COVID waves, and 3. Flu spreads far more readily via fomites so masking isn't nearly as effective in a caregiver setting; COVID spreads primarily via droplet and N95 masking is and was effective to decrease transmission.
I'm talking about a very specific situation; early COVID pandemic, when the simply act of masking very much had the capacity to save elderly lives from a virus significantly more deadly than the flu to that specific population. It's not realistic to demand people mask otherwise.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 05:54 PM
Not to mention was totally cool with going around coughing COVID into geriatric faces during the pandemic. The appeal to the sanctity of body and life is hilarious in these people.
Technically if you have anything resembling covid symptoms, especially back in the day, you should get tested immediately
As long as this is followed, it does somewhat reduce the argument that vaccines prevent spread of the virus due to reducing symptoms….because someone testing should also be quarantining appropriately until test results are back, and obviously after, if positive
There really shouldn’t be any issues with this concept, because:
- I imagine every state has some version of drive up free testing and usually gives the result the next day or even same day
- every job is going to be ok with the person testing and quarantining, I think it would be borderline illegal to demand someone sick with covid to come into work
Especially because of this second reason, I’ve been tested for covid more than 10 different times at this point, and only tested positive once. I get tested any time I think I might have it, because I greatly look forward to getting paid to stay home for more than a week
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 05:56 PM
Wow that's all great man. I'm against sterilizing and mutilating *healthy* kids. Not kids with two-heads syndrome or whatever you're ranting about.
And yeah I'm against circumcision too, although one might argue it's slightly less invasive than sterilizing kids and cutting healthy breasts off confused teenage girls, ya know? Are you familiar with the expression "muddying the waters"?
This minor technicality justifies the whole she-bang. :p
Botten
08-10-2023, 05:56 PM
The flu and the common cold are also extremely deadly to old people. I trust you were always wearing medical masks like a psycho to prevent giving grandma those ailments too or nah?
Here I'll even *give* you the consistent position: "Yes, ooloo, we should always wear masks around old people, even if covid didn't exist.". Just say that and stop looking retarded.
Amused :rolleyes: if masks were so useless in medical situation in preventing infection, even before Covid, why use them in Bio-Pharma labs, during any type of surgery or even dental work.
I have been over this with you before even during Covid. Masks do work and they do reduce infection - in fact masks are more impactful if a person infected with Covid wears the mask - preventing a worsening spread of the virus.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 05:57 PM
Yea you're an illiterate moron, I didn't evade the point. Masking isn't necessary with the flu because 1. We have flu shots, 2. It isn't near as deadly as those first COVID waves, and 3. Flu spreads far more readily via fomites so masking isn't nearly as effective in a caregiver setting; COVID spreads primarily via droplet and N95 masking is and was effective to decrease transmission.
I'm talking about a very specific situation; early COVID pandemic, when the simply act of masking very much had the capacity to save elderly lives from a virus significantly more deadly than the flu to that specific population. It's not realistic to demand people mask otherwise.
Got it, so grandma can't catch the flu because it's easier for her to catch covid. Brilliant stuff.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 05:59 PM
Amused :rolleyes: if masks were so useless in medical situation in preventing infection, even before Covid, why use them in Bio-Pharma labs, during any type of surgery or even dental work.
I have been over this with you before even during Covid. Masks do work and they do reduce infection - in fact masks are more impactful if a person infected with Covid wears the mask - preventing a worsening spread of the virus.
At the very least it can be argued even if masks allowed all particles to pass through, they could slightly impair the frequency at which someone touches their own nose or mouth area
But I’ve heard such mixed reports on masks reg covid even from official sources, so I dunno. Their purpose I always believed was to prevent spreading your own covid to others, not guarding you from theirs
Got it, so grandma can't catch the flu because it's easier for her to catch covid. Brilliant stuff.
You pulled that conclusion out of your ass lol
Complete illiterate.
Origen
08-10-2023, 06:02 PM
You can always trust Ooloo to run away with the wrong take when he's been defeated by logic, it is his defense mechanism.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 06:03 PM
Oh also there's scant evidence that masks even prevent transmission. N95's somewhat do, if worn properly (IE the right size, fitted properly, on people without facial hair).
To say nothing of the fact that maybe grandma in the nursing home would rather just see her damn family during her final months of life than sit around in a state of paranoia so she might live an additional two months, alone. Ya know?
To say nothing of the fact that maybe grandma in the nursing home would rather just see her damn family during her final months of life than sit around in a state of paranoia so she might live an additional two months, alone. Ya know?
AAaaaaaaand there it is, Jesus calling the elderly home. Y'alls callous disregard for the sanctity of life is so predictable.
But yea, you don't give a fuck about them. Jesus calling them home, right?
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 06:05 PM
Oh also there's scant evidence that masks even prevent transmission. N95's somewhat do, if worn properly (IE the right size, fitted properly, on people without facial hair).
To say nothing of the fact that maybe grandma in the nursing home would rather just see her damn family during her final months of life than sit around in a state of paranoia so she might live an additional two months, alone. Ya know?
We were required to wear only n95’s, but good point I have a decent sized beard that I was never required to shave
Fuckin hated the n95 tho compared to the blue ones when it comes to comfort
Origen
08-10-2023, 06:05 PM
Yeah, Ooloo, you're the authority on everyone's grandma. That's how that works
Botten
08-10-2023, 06:09 PM
Wow that's all great man. I'm against sterilizing and mutilating *healthy* kids. Not kids with two-heads syndrome or whatever you're ranting about.
And yeah I'm against circumcision too, although one might argue it's slightly less invasive than sterilizing kids and cutting healthy breasts off confused teenage girls, ya know? Are you familiar with the expression "muddying the waters"?
Again you don't understand that some of these surgeries isn't just done after birth as I already explained.
You stated you aren't for breast removal in minors. Do you have any idea how uncomfortable gigantomastia is? How it can affect your daily life?
Perhaps if I take something from you childhood knowledge you could understand.
Punky Brewster suffered from this and at age 16 (classified as a minor to you alt righties) she was suffering from gigantomastia and needed surgery.
Why is it alright for so many not to be enrage then about very obvious mutilation of breast tissue verse including gender issues like dysphoria today?
Because you GOP Christian voters are sheep!?!?
In many cases medical professionals are looking to help the well being of children; even if it can help prevent suicide or self-harm.
Leave it up to doctors, therapist and parents to make the decision ...
Not alt right extremist Christians listening to consulting echo chamber podcasts from Ben Shapiro.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 06:10 PM
You can always trust Ooloo to run away with the wrong take when he's been defeated by logic, it is his defense mechanism.
Haha "defeated by logic".
Here's your logic: doctor frankenstein thinks it's a good idea to convert confused children into the opposite sex and he can't possibly be wrong!
The suicide rates don't go down. There are medical complications for life. It's obviously completely insane. Boy I can't deal with this logic! It seems like such a great idea.
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 06:11 PM
Again you don't understand that some of these surgery isn't just done after birth as I already explained.
You stated you aren't for breast removal in minors. Do you have any idea how uncomfortable gigantomastia is? How it can affect your daily life?
Perhaps if I take something from you childhood knowledge you could understand.
Punky Brewster suffered from this and at age 16 (classified as a minor to you alt righties) she was suffering from gigantomastia and needed surgery.
Why is it alright for so many not to be enrage then about very obvious mutilation of breast tissue verse including gender issues like dysphoria today?
Because you GOP Christian voters are sheep!?!?
In many cases medical professionals are looking to help the well being of children; even if it can help prevent suicide or self-harm.
Leave it up to doctors, therapist and parents to make the decision ...
Not alt right extremist Christians listening to consulting echo chamber podcasts from Ben Shapiro.
The part where mental symptoms are treated as if they are physical symptoms, like a mental health abortion vs an ectopic pregnancy abortion.
Symptoms isn't the right word, Doc. Fix me up.
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 06:12 PM
Again you don't understand that some of these surgery isn't just done after birth as I already explained.
You stated you aren't for breast removal in minors. Do you have any idea how uncomfortable gigantomastia is? How it can affect your daily life?
Perhaps if I take something from you childhood knowledge you could understand.
Punky Brewster suffered from this and at age 16 (classified as a minor to you alt righties) she was suffering from gigantomastia and needed surgery.
Why is it alright for so many not to be enrage then about very obvious mutilation of breast tissue verse including gender issues like dysphoria today?
Because you GOP Christian voters are sheep!?!?
In many cases medical professionals are looking to help the well being of children; even if it can help prevent suicide or self-harm.
Leave it up to doctors, therapist and parents to make the decision ...
Not alt right extremist Christians listening to consulting echo chamber podcasts from Ben Shapiro.
Uh oh here's some more brilliant logic that I keep getting defeated by.
Sometimes people's legs are gangrenous and need to be amputated, therefor it's fine to cut the legs off totally healthy people. Yup!
Origen
08-10-2023, 06:12 PM
Because they always have to dance and prattle around the point they can't make: their opposition to these things are simply because they dislike them.
The veneer of rationality and science is meant to fool other potential conservatives, but it doesn't work on outsiders and they don't seem to understand that.
It's just reactionary garbage. They can't cite evidence that doesn't exist.
We were required to wear only n95’s, but good point I have a decent sized beard that I was never required to shave
Fuckin hated the n95 tho compared to the blue ones when it comes to comfort
It's degrees of protection. Fitted N95 with no facial hear (facial hair is part of fitting criteria; high efficacy) > non-fitted N95 > surgical mask > cloth mask (almost no efficacy)
Early in the pandemic, the strains had a significantly lower R_0; a non fitted N95 provided considerable protection outside an inpatient setting, and a surgical mask provided significant protection as well in public such that they were worth wearing from a public health standpoint. When I say protection, I mean decreased likelihood of infecting other people.
More recently, it's a different story as COVID spreads like the fuckin measles. Except now we have vaccines and monoclonal antibodies, and the strains are less deadly and damaging.
Origen
08-10-2023, 06:13 PM
Haha "defeated by logic".
Here's your logic: doctor frankenstein thinks it's a good idea to convert confused children into the opposite sex and he can't possibly be wrong!
The suicide rates don't go down. There are medical complications for life. It's obviously completely insane. Boy I can't deal with this logic! It seems like such a great idea.You are literally demonstrating the very point I was making, thank you, reactionary idiot
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 06:15 PM
It's degrees of protection. Fitted N95 with no facial hear (facial hair is part of fitting criteria) > non-fitted N95 > surgical mask > cloth mask
Early in the pandemic, the strains had a significantly lower R_0; a non fitted N95 provided considerable protection outside an inpatient setting, and a surgical mask provided significant protection as well in public such that they were worth wearing from a public health standpoint. When I say protection, I mean decreased likelihood of infecting other people.
More recently, it's a different story as COVID spreads like the fuckin measles. Except now we have vaccines and monoclonal antibodies, and the strains are less deadly and damaging.
Shoulda had the celebrities start sporting mutton chops if you wanted the masks to fit us right.
Origen
08-10-2023, 06:16 PM
In before Ooloo moans about "bad faith"
Because they always have to dance and prattle around the point they can't make: their opposition to these things are simply because they dislike them.
The veneer of rationality and science is meant to fool other potential conservatives, but it doesn't work on outsiders and they don't seem to understand that.
It's just reactionary garbage. They can't cite evidence that doesn't exist.
Well said
Shoulda had the celebrities start sporting mutton chops if you wanted the masks to fit us right.
My FIL is a prominent infectious disease specialist (turned down Fauci's previous job as director of NIAID); he grew handlebars :p
Botten
08-10-2023, 06:21 PM
Uh oh here's some more brilliant logic that I keep getting defeated by.
Sometimes people's legs are gangrenous and need to be amputated, therefor it's fine to cut the legs off totally healthy people. Yup!
Gigantomastia like gender dysphoria technically doesn't need surgical treatment, only it makes it better for an individuals mental and physical stability if they get it.
So again, if these treatments were offered decades ago - why the sudden Christian up-rise? Oh that is right, re-energizing the GOP voter Christian base of sheep is needed in what would otherwise be an abysmal election turn out this 2024.
Origen
08-10-2023, 06:34 PM
https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/
They always need an outgroup to focus their hate on, because the people who control them know that they will turn on each other if they don't have that outgroup. They aren't useful to the billionaires if they all kill each other.
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 06:39 PM
https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/
They always need an outgroup to focus their hate on, because the people who control them know that they will turn on each other if they don't have that outgroup. They aren't useful to the billionaires if they all kill each other.
Modernism vs Modernism, FIGHT!
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 07:37 PM
https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/
They always need an outgroup to focus their hate on, because the people who control them know that they will turn on each other if they don't have that outgroup. They aren't useful to the billionaires if they all kill each other.
Lol you guys sound so conspiratorial sometimes. You're by far the angriest, most hateful and apparently also most conspiratorially-minded dudes on the forum, but you call everyone else those things because projection.txt
Homesteaded
08-10-2023, 07:46 PM
I also worked in the field during the height of Covid. I wasn’t in a nursing home though. Masks didn’t do anything, “vaccine” was not at all effective. It was lied about over and over.
These guys can’t wait to be told what to do.
Nibblewitz
08-10-2023, 07:55 PM
A manufactured power grab? No way!
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 08:33 PM
Not quite Sound of Freedom but close :(
“Nineteen Australians, whose ages range from 32 to 81 years old, were recently charged for their alleged involvement in what the agency described in a news release as a "sophisticated" digital network. Members are believed to have produced, searched for and distributed images and videos of child abuse material on the dark web, officials said”
Sad to see FBI die doing the other thing they like to do besides arrest conservatives (lol), which is busting up Pedo rings. Also why I can’t completely dislike partisan FBI
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 08:51 PM
Trans person was removed after apparently voicing every concern I’ve had
1. Clinicians at gender clinics often identify as queer and this may be biased towards a particular outcome being seen as “better” than others, regardless of the actual qualifications
2. These clinics have been shown in the past with adults to qualify people who DON’T meet the criteria for gender dysphoria, so why couldn’t it also be happening with kids
“Aaron Terrell was removed from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health’s (WPATH) Annual Scientific Symposium last September after raising concerns about the "rapid medicalization" of gender-diverse children. The final straw was when he asked about the precautions medical providers are taking to ensure adolescents aren't transitioning unnecessarily”
“Every single person there, at least by their outward behavior, was in complete agreement with that non-critical, affirmative-only approach," Terrell told Fox News. "It's like at no point in the development of standards of care for gender dysphoria is any actual clinical evidence-based oversight happening. That's what was really so alarming, that it's activist driven from start to finish," he added. "It's not health care."
“After attending several sessions WPATH members and medical professionals hosted, Terrell said he realized that many of SOC-8's authors were transgender and that "their investment in this health care is personally motivated."
"A lot of those clinicians slash activists — well, I just got the impression that the activism seemed to very much be at the forefront, more so than the medicine or the research about trans care," Terrell said”
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trans-man-asked-simple-question-kids-trans-conference-kicked
(Yes this is fox but ask yourself, what other news is going to want to report on this and risk career suicide??)
Apparently gender dysphoria alliance is not liked, due to them questioning the appropriateness of transition for minors among other things:
“GDA is a hate group hiding behind a "scientific" veneer and this organization's publications are cited as reasons to deny gender affirming care by transphobic politicians. I hope you realize the harm spreading discredited science does to our community both on a medical and political level”
Botten
08-10-2023, 08:52 PM
Lol you guys sound so conspiratorial sometimes. You're by far the angriest, most hateful and apparently also most conspiratorially-minded dudes on the forum, but you call everyone else those things because projection.txt
Your party literally attracts hate groups like white supremacy and neo-nazis.
Your own heads boast about grifting their audience.
What is worse you parrot their talking points while relying on your opinion. When frustrated you ask your accuser to find research that supports your view. This is your responsibility.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 08:56 PM
From the article:
“I hope you realize the harm spreading discredited science does to our community both on a medical and political level”
- it seems to me he was asking questions and requesting more oversight. How is that the same as “spreading discredited science”, unless that’s something that this GDA has done in some other way. Otherwise that’s an incredibly hyperbolic exaggeration
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 09:03 PM
lol masks
Idiot sheep still coping so badly they were duped into wearing masks and getting an experimental injection
Botten
08-10-2023, 09:05 PM
I also worked in the field during the height of Covid. I wasn’t in a nursing home though. Masks didn’t do anything, “vaccine” was not at all effective. It was lied about over and over.
These guys can’t wait to be told what to do.
- You took the vaccine, aren't you be a bit of hypocrite?
Do you have scientific data that shows that masks in no way =-ever-= helped to prevent the spread of Covid. That masks don't reduce it by the slightest?
Do you have scientific peer review data that none of the vaccines limited or reduced the spread of the alpha or delta variant of Covid - because there is a ton of data that says otherwise.
Only ones lying to you are the same politicians that watched many of your party's voters die to Covid while grifting you on remedies like Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin.
Talk about being told what to do... the vice president of your own party from the previous administration will be testifying about the treason committed by Trump; the GOP's plan to circumvent the constitution with false electors.
This isn't a red flag to you about your party?
Nixon.... shame on the GOP leaders.
Trump.... shame on the GOP voters.
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 09:05 PM
Another day of Orange Man Bad you're racismz ect.
So freaking boring
The Left is lost in a false reality of merging politics and personal identity. They don't know how to debate or use logic at all
Pathetic
Ooloo
08-10-2023, 09:07 PM
From the article:
“I hope you realize the harm spreading discredited science does to our community both on a medical and political level”
- it seems to me he was asking questions and requesting more oversight. How is that the same as “spreading discredited science”, unless that’s something that this GDA has done in some other way. Otherwise that’s an incredibly hyperbolic exaggeration
You literally can't disagree with them without being called hateful. They demand complete submission, it's one of the most intolerant social movements of my lifetime so far.
I mean just on the trans athlete locker room question; it's so completely unconcerned with the rights of women, which the left claimed they cared about five seconds ago. Males with penises insisting they must be allowed into women's locker rooms, like they're rosa parks. Meanwhile the women are shamed and\or fired\cancelled if they object. Oh one of the women in the locker room is a rape survivor? Maybe she's traumatized by male genitalia? Too bad, bigot! It's totally self centered and narcissistic.
Botten
08-10-2023, 09:07 PM
lol masks
Idiot sheep still coping so badly they were duped into wearing masks and getting an experimental injection
Covid death rates are higher among Republicans than Democrats, mounting evidence shows:
Lower vaccination rates among Republicans could explain the partisan gap, but some researchers say mask use and social distancing were bigger factors. (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-death-rates-higher-republicans-democrats-why-rcna50883)
Botten
08-10-2023, 09:08 PM
Another day of Orange Man Bad you're racismz ect.
So freaking boring
The Left is lost in a false reality of merging politics and personal identity. They don't know how to debate or use logic at all
Pathetic
Says the guy whose party is going to again lose the next presidential election.
Botten
08-10-2023, 09:12 PM
.... it's so completely unconcerned with the rights of women, which the left claimed they cared about five seconds ago. Males with penises insisting they must be allowed into women's locker rooms, like they're rosa parks. Meanwhile the women are shamed and\or fired\cancelled if they object. Oh one of the women in the locker room is a rape survivor? Maybe she's traumatized by male genitalia? Too bad, bigot! It's totally self centered and narcissistic.
LoL GOP for women's rights
Republican Senator Blocks Bill to Codify Americans’ Right to Contraception
“Today, Republicans showed the American people where they stand: no abortions, and no birth control... (https://www.help.senate.gov/chair/newsroom/press/republican-senator-blocks-bill-to-codify-americans-right-to-contraception-)
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 09:14 PM
You literally can't disagree with them without being called hateful. They demand complete submission, it's one of the most intolerant social movements of my lifetime so far.
I mean just on the trans athlete locker room question; it's so completely unconcerned with the rights of women, which the left claimed they cared about five seconds ago. Males with penises insisting they must be allowed into women's locker rooms, like they're rosa parks. Meanwhile the women are shamed and\or fired\cancelled if they object. Oh one of the women in the locker room is a rape survivor? Maybe she's traumatized by male genitalia? Too bad, bigot! It's totally self centered and narcissistic.
I could see (note: NOT agree, but understand) if they were deemed some “hate group pushing discredited science” if they were publishing papers about how gender transition is NEVER effective for kids or something
But asking for more oversight and raising extremely valid concerns only helps to fine tune the process to make it more medically appropriate and justified
I could completely understand the venom coming from some trans doctor or clinician who sees even questions about the process as some sort of evil challenge. It’s like, let’s be real here, we’re talking about fine tuning a process that affects a tiny tiny portion of our population. Not shutting it down, not stopping it. This “GRAVE HARM TO OUR COMMUNITY” for trying to fine tune a process is ridiculously exaggerated to the point where I find it funny
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 09:14 PM
Covid death rates are higher among Republicans than Democrats, mounting evidence shows:
Lower vaccination rates among Republicans could explain the partisan gap, but some researchers say mask use and social distancing were bigger factors. (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-death-rates-higher-republicans-democrats-why-rcna50883)
Nice Fake News link
Covid Death Numbers aren't even remotely credible
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are living in a manufactured Reality and you can't have a discussion about anything without calling people racist or linking total garbage like DailyKos, MSNBC ect.
It's pathetic
Botten
08-10-2023, 09:18 PM
Covid death rates are higher among Republicans than Democrats, mounting evidence shows:
Lower vaccination rates among Republicans could explain the partisan gap, but some researchers say mask use and social distancing were bigger factors. (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-death-rates-higher-republicans-democrats-why-rcna50883)
Nice Fake News link
Covid Death Numbers aren't even remotely credible
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are living in a manufactured Reality and you can't have a discussion about anything without calling people racist or linking total garbage like DailyKos, MSNBC ect.
It's pathetic
Right because it isn't a fakenew site when you link the same site as reference.
The irony,
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3627616&postcount=2168
:rolleyes:
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 09:18 PM
LoL GOP for women's rights
Republican Senator Blocks Bill to Codify Americans’ Right to Contraception
“Today, Republicans showed the American people where they stand: no abortions, and no birth control... (https://www.help.senate.gov/chair/newsroom/press/republican-senator-blocks-bill-to-codify-americans-right-to-contraception-)
It says pass by unanimous consent and then I stopped reading it.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 09:19 PM
It’s like if any clinician or doctor, ESPECIALLY one that identifies as queer, is like “WE NEED TO MOVE FULL STEAM AHEAD WITH THIS, OR EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIE!” right there that’s an obvious evidence of bias. If I had my way, I would remove their ability to qualify kids for affirmative care right then pending a deep audit of all their cases
Edit: basically whoever fights against oversight the most, those are the ones you need to audit the hardest IMO
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 09:31 PM
Right because it isn't a fakenew site when you link the same site as reference.
The irony,
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3627616&postcount=2168
:rolleyes:
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't debate. You're trying to deflect.
Even the NYT admitted recently that at least 30% of the "Covid Deaths" were not from Covid
It was totally inflated BS
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/briefing/covid.html
Covid’s toll, to be clear, has not fallen to zero. The C.D.C.’s main Covid webpage estimates that about 80 people per day have been dying from the virus in recent weeks, which is equal to about 1 percent of overall daily deaths.
The official number is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death. Other C.D.C. data suggests that almost one-third of official recent Covid deaths have fallen into this category. A study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases came to similar conclusions.
Any Covid numbers you link (especially from a year ago or more) are total nonsense. Pure lies. I don't expect you to eat crow and admit you were wrong. Your personal identity is too wrapped up in your politics to admit you were duped by the people you put on a pedestal. I don't need you to. It's obvious you a total phony. You even lie about your profession and strut around here like you're some vax expert working in a lab on the next breakthrough cure. It's embarrassing.
There were also financial incentives to report any death during the pandemic to Covid. Hospitals and Care Providers got $$BIG MONEY$$ for doing so and it fed into the hysterical narrative that the sky was falling and we were all going to die if we didn't do what The Government said
Here's Fauci admitting the Vaxecutions are pretty much worthless and don't do squat
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8
Viruses that replicate in the human respiratory mucosa without infecting systemically, including influenza A, SARS-CoV-2, endemic coronaviruses, RSV, and many other “common cold” viruses, cause significant mortality and morbidity and are important public health concerns. Because these viruses generally do not elicit complete and durable protective immunity by themselves, they have not to date been effectively controlled by licensed or experimental vaccines.
I can't believe idiots are still lost in that false Covid Candyland of nonsense and lies. You probably still wear a mask when you go to the grocery store. Pathetic.
Sadre Spinegnawer
08-10-2023, 10:02 PM
No he meant me, “in some bumfuck town” only Phoenix, a huge city with 1.6 million people and more fleeing here every day from shitty blue states like CA
Phoenix *is* kind of fucked tho. I think of Phoenix as "LA, except built by aliens."
These temp curves are real. If you are chill haha with an AC life then no problems of course.
But water. You can always just AC everything and energy is a "false flag" -- we got fucktons of energy.
But water. That's the nerve.
I do not see how a city like Phoenix remains viable. I'm an hour from Lake Erie and I can guarantee you no Great Lake state (and keep in mind Canada has equal say on these things) cares if the southwest dries up. You are not getting any of our plentiful fresh water.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 10:12 PM
Phoenix *is* kind of fucked tho. I think of Phoenix as "LA, except built by aliens."
These temp curves are real. If you are chill haha with an AC life then no problems of course.
But water. You can always just AC everything and energy is a "false flag" -- we got fucktons of energy.
But water. That's the nerve.
I do not see how a city like Phoenix remains viable. I'm an hour from Lake Erie and I can guarantee you no Great Lake state (and keep in mind Canada has equal say on these things) cares if the southwest dries up. You are not getting any of our plentiful fresh water.
I appreciate the better verbiage, because “fucked” is very different than “bumfuck”
“Bumfuck” to me implies small, podunk, poor, etc, which Phx is none of these
Fucked due to drought is an entirely different thing. We are still technically in a drought but had a very wet winter this past winter which helped
I believe the city has enough of a plan to handle the next few decades and after I die, I don’t really care what happens lol
I believe CA is still in bigger drought danger than us but haven’t been following it
Sadre Spinegnawer
08-10-2023, 10:14 PM
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't debate. You're trying to deflect.
Even the NYT admitted recently that at least 30% of the "Covid Deaths" were not from Covid
It was totally inflated BS
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/briefing/covid.html
Any Covid numbers you link (especially from a year ago or more) are total nonsense. Pure lies. I don't expect you to eat crow and admit you were wrong. Your personal identity is too wrapped up in your politics to admit you were duped by the people you put on a pedestal. I don't need you to. It's obvious you a total phony. You even lie about your profession and strut around here like you're some vax expert working in a lab on the next breakthrough cure. It's embarrassing.
There were also financial incentives to report any death during the pandemic to Covid. Hospitals and Care Providers got $$BIG MONEY$$ for doing so and it fed into the hysterical narrative that the sky was falling and we were all going to die if we didn't do what The Government said
Here's Fauci admitting the Vaxecutions are pretty much worthless and don't do squat
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8
I can't believe idiots are still lost in that false Covid Candyland of nonsense and lies. You probably still wear a mask when you go to the grocery store. Pathetic.
My ability to engage reality is not binary. Things are not "this is real" or "this is fake" for me.
Events, people, information exist on a continuum with utter bullshit and madness at one end and the four laws of thermodynamics at the other. Haha nerd joke.
So make that a scale of 1-10.
Not much in what you deal with is ever a 10, unless you actually are a physicist.
A normal citizen working the life in the US float where they please but mostly hang around the fat middle 4-6.
The nasty hookers downtown and the fentanyl people are down in the 1's.
Gaming forums are notorious 2-3 magnets. These days, it's a bunch of low-spec 2-3's being spanked by a bare handful of sainted 7's. Kinda dull drama-wise.
We do not have a single poster here who believes they can see in the spirit realm, for example. That means we got no 1's.
Plus, not doing the H.itler set of tricks anymore. Those folks were always steady 1's. Endless. (Gotta go to pro-Russia forums for that kinda juice)
Covid was a solid 6. Natural selection has by now rendered it part of the happy little family of flu viruses. Bonus points if you know why natural selection favors virus weakening.
The Amish are a surprising 5.
Botten
08-10-2023, 10:16 PM
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't debate. You're trying to deflect.
Even the NYT admitted recently that at least 30% of the "Covid Deaths" were not from Covid
It was totally inflated BS
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/briefing/covid.html
Again do you think a pay wall is going to prevent others from reading the article you are misquoting?
Excess deaths, as this number is known, has been an important measure of Covid’s true toll because it does not depend on the murky attribution of deaths to a specific cause. Even if Covid is being underdiagnosed, the excess-deaths statistic can capture its effects. The statistic also captures Covid’s indirect effects, like the surge of vehicle crashes, gun deaths and deaths from missed medical treatments during the pandemic.
Estimates of weekly deaths above normal in the U.S.
A chart shows C.D.C. estimates of weekly death percentages of normal in the U.S. The average since March 2023 has been below one percent above normal.
Here's Fauci admitting the Vaxecutions are pretty much worthless and don't do squat
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8
I will pick the part of your article you can understand best:
"influenza and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines reduce disease severity"
Then point you to the same threads the staff moved to RnF and then locked over your misinformation. It is obvious you have learn nothing. Especially when other attempts have resulted in locked threads too.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409895
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 10:19 PM
Again do you think a pay wall is going to prevent others from reading the article you are misquoting?
Just turn off flash (JavaScript) and reload the page. NYT’s paywall is a joke, and I’m not even computer savvy
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 10:25 PM
Again do you think a pay wall is going to prevent others from reading the article you are misquoting?
I will pick the part of your article you can understand best:
"influenza and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines reduce disease severity"
Then point you to the same threads the staff moved to RnF and then locked over your misinformation. It is obvious you have learn nothing. Especially when other attempts have resulted in locked threads too.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409895
You're like a wind up doll that keeps falling on the same canards. You can't pick apart anything because you're a broken record of propaganda and have no logical thinking mind of your own
You cite censorship as a win? lol
Covid death numbers were vastly over inflated by as much as 30% or more. This is no longer in dispute. it's fact.
and lol at your attempt at moving goalposts. Not going to work.
22638
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 10:26 PM
You are not getting any of our plentiful fresh water.
The fish need it more than The People. Fish are our moral betters. (https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/editorials/story/2023-05-18/california-water-rights-colorado-river-nevada-arizona-feds)
Citing the labyrinthine world of vested water rights, which guarantees it the most water from the 1,450-mile-long river, California objected to a plan backed by the other states — Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico and Utah — on the grounds it should not have to bear an equal share of the federal government’s call for an annual reduction in Colorado River water of at least 15 percent.
Botten
08-10-2023, 10:27 PM
Just turn off flash (JavaScript) and reload the page. NYT’s paywall is a joke, and I’m not even computer savvy
This portion of Ez's article is funny too; especially when he is raving about data in the article.
By The New York Times
A correction was made on
July 18, 2023
:
An earlier version of a chart in this newsletter mislabeled the data for excess death rates in various countries. It shows the estimated daily death rate, not the weekly rate.
Oof
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 10:43 PM
This portion of Ez's article is funny too; especially when he is raving about data in the article.
Oof
Nope. Don't see a rebuttal. Just another attempt to deflect and discredit a NYT article of all things. Your official Ministry of "Truth". Absolutely hilarious. Your failure is complete.
Oh and
The official number is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death. Other C.D.C. data suggests that almost one-third of official recent Covid deaths have fallen into this category. A study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases came to similar conclusions.
Good luck with that
Botten
08-10-2023, 10:50 PM
Nope. Don't see a rebuttal. Just another attempt to deflect and discredit a NYT article of all things. Your official Ministry of "Truth". Absolutely hilarious. Your failure is complete.
Oh and
The official number is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death. Other C.D.C. data suggests that almost one-third of official recent Covid deaths have fallen into this category. A study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases came to similar conclusions.
Good luck with that
It clearly says the data in the NYTimes article was wrong and needed to be corrected.
And worse... probably!??!? Not a lot of confidence there.
:rolleyes:
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 10:53 PM
It clearly says the data in the NYTimes article was wrong and needed to be corrected.
And worse... probably!??!? Not a lot of confidence there.
:rolleyes:
Comorbidity has a fraternal twin and his name is Comortality.
send post
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 10:55 PM
Colorado River
I hiked to that too, during Havasupai trip about 13 years ago. It was one of the hardest ordeals of my life because it was like 7 miles one way from camp, I started way too late and brought way too little food and water, got lost for hours and hours because I couldn’t find this invisible switchback to scale back up this ravine, and instead almost died trying to scale waterfalls in desperation trying to find an alternative way back
Being super high on weed didn’t help. I took pics thinking they would find them on my dead body, but eventually I was able to locate the switchback and get back to camp (after having to drink from the river due to dehydration)
Also dodged multiple rattlesnakes and there are no natives and no cell signal out there, so if you get in trouble that’s it, if you are alone you are fucked
First few pics is going along the tribute streams that run into the River, then the River itself. I hear it is extremely cold and fast moving, basically also a death sentence to try to swim across no matter your swimming skill.
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 11:01 PM
It clearly says the data in the NYTimes article was wrong and needed to be corrected.
And worse... probably!??!? Not a lot of confidence there.
:rolleyes:
Should we question all the data that The NYT and all your other legacy media outlets reported about Covid?
Not a lot of confidence there right? lol
Trexller
08-10-2023, 11:19 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admits-inflation-reduction-act-less-inflation-originally-sold-americans
President Biden admitted Thursday that Democrats' signature Inflation Reduction Act wasn't as much about actually reducing the then-record-high inflation facing the nation as he originally touted to the American people.
"I wish I hadn’t called it that. It has less to do with reducing inflation than it does providing for alternatives that generate economic growth," Biden said during an appearance at a campaign fundraiser in Park City, Utah
Biden's comments are a sharp turn from what he said in July 2022 ahead of the Inflation Reduction Act's passage through Congress on a party line vote.
"The Inflation Reduction Act is the strongest bill you can pass. It will lower inflation
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 11:20 PM
Moron Liberals vote for these fools and then complain when they do what Liberals do. Absolute morons.
Ej718tPnXto
Blow your airhorns!
lol did you hear about their plan to combat crime by honking horns at it?
aussenseiter
08-10-2023, 11:25 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admits-inflation-reduction-act-less-inflation-originally-sold-americans
President Biden admitted Thursday that Democrats' signature Inflation Reduction Act wasn't as much about actually reducing the then-record-high inflation facing the nation as he originally touted to the American people.
"I wish I hadn’t called it that. It has less to do with reducing inflation than it does providing for alternatives that generate economic growth," Biden said during an appearance at a campaign fundraiser in Park City, Utah
Biden's comments are a sharp turn from what he said in July 2022 ahead of the Inflation Reduction Act's passage through Congress on a party line vote.
"The Inflation Reduction Act is the strongest bill you can pass. It will lower inflation
Joey Man-chin said you gotta produce your way out of inflation. It sparkles. (https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin/status/1555348733134618625)
Elizondo
08-10-2023, 11:25 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admits-inflation-reduction-act-less-inflation-originally-sold-americans
Fox News link so Biden didn't really say that ect. ect.
You know it was coming. Might as well get it out of the way.
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 11:26 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admits-inflation-reduction-act-less-inflation-originally-sold-americans
Interest rate on my home repair loan was like 8.6% with an almost 800 credit score :(
No handout from Daddy gov't for that loan though, huh. What if I rename it Gender Studies Undergrad, would that do anything? ;)
unsunghero
08-10-2023, 11:32 PM
To play devil's advocate, I've read that inflation is up in many developed first world countries atm
HOWEVER
That is irrelevant. The perception of a president has a very strong correlation to the current US economy no matter how much the president's army of press drones tries to spin excuses. I think the economy and his advanced age are the two biggest negs against Biden currently
https://i.imgflip.com/3uisvq.jpg
Trexller
08-11-2023, 12:24 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/3uisvq.jpg
yeah the only people who believed the gov't and MSM on covid were the ones who were too scared and stupid too understand it isn't anything more than a bad cold.
unfortunately these people are numerous, rabid, annoying but most of all -- loud, they yell, they scream, they rage-post and they get the most attention
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 12:27 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/3uisvq.jpg
Remember when the media had a giant blood red rolling COVID DEATH COUNT updating live when reporting on trump, that conveniently went away despite covid I’m pretty sure still existing right when Biden took over? No bias there tho
Pepperidge farm remembers
Trexller
08-11-2023, 12:31 AM
Remember when the media had a giant blood red rolling COVID DEATH COUNT updating live when reporting on trump, that conveniently went away despite covid I’m pretty sure still existing right when Biden took over? No bias there tho
Pepperidge farm remembers
yeah the entire thing was politicized from the get-go
politicization of issues is a 100% guarantee that it will become a complete chaotic shit show
this is yet another piece of evidence that the entire thing orchestrated by the globo-homos or whatever you wanna call them
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 12:45 AM
yeah the entire thing was politicized from the get-go
politicization of issues is a 100% guarantee that it will become a complete chaotic shit show
this is yet another piece of evidence that the entire thing orchestrated by the globo-homos or whatever you wanna call them
Why Donald such a bitch boy to the Chad Anthony Fauci?
Trexller
08-11-2023, 12:56 AM
Chad Anthony Fauci?
lol really?
that twerp has the most punchable face in the history of nerds
he's also an overpaid smug piece of shit who straight up lied to the entire world on many occasions
Elizondo
08-11-2023, 01:16 AM
All of the robots pushing the dirty jabs, masks and Covid (sky is falling) Big Pharma corporate narrative have egg all of their faces
Won't be able to ever live it down. Forever marked as ***arded.
Liberals, sure they're morons, but the memes... :D
IdmPp4sXpEM
Botten
08-11-2023, 01:46 AM
All of the robots pushing the dirty jabs, masks and Covid (sky is falling) Big Pharma corporate narrative have egg all of their faces
Won't be able to ever live it down. Forever marked as ***arded.
You poor hateful misguided brainwashed man.
Pfizer pouring COVID profits into cancer battle (https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/pfizer-pouring-covid-profits-into-cancer-battle-ceo-bourla-says)
"Pfizer is giving all the profits that we made from COVID in '21 and '22 and what we will make in '23 to acquire technology and products that we believe will allow us to battle cancer”
…
Bourla has already overseen a string of acquisitions to bolster Pfizer's drug pipeline, headlined by the $43 billion deal for Seagen, which makes complex targeted cancer therapies.
Pfizer's other recent deals include its purchase of Biohaven Pharmaceutical Holding, maker of a migraine prevention treatment, for $11.6 billion, a $6.7 billion buyout of ulcerative colitis drug developer Arena Pharmaceuticals, and a $5.4 billion deal for Global Blood Therapeutics with its focus on treating sickle cell disease.
Homesteaded
08-11-2023, 02:11 AM
Lol
Unbelievable, defending big pharma for donating to cancer research after a truly magnificent cash grab at the expense of the masses.
Just complete separation from reality. It’s scary shit.
I mean... they're a drug company. Anything they develop is going to treat or cure something. And they'll profit from it. Shit's just PR.
That being said, I miss the right-wingers that were pro-free market (not the same thing as strictly anti-government) rather than being hateful, raging, wanna-be fascists.
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 03:31 AM
I mean... they're a drug company. Anything they develop is going to treat or cure something. And they'll profit from it. Shit's just PR.
That being said, I miss the right-wingers that were pro-free market (not the same thing as strictly anti-government) rather than being hateful, raging, wanna-be fascists.
Ya I see the obvious political optics as well but I can’t knock the actual action of a donation to that kind of a cause, assuming it was done intelligently
I hear a lot of these donations can be very mismanaged depending on who you give them to
Botten
08-11-2023, 07:35 AM
Lol
Unbelievable, defending big pharma for donating to cancer research after a truly magnificent cash grab at the expense of the masses.
Just complete separation from reality. It’s scary shit.
The company that didn’t use warpspeed to find a vaccine.
-who hasn’t had a family member affected by cancer?
-The company isn’t squandering or worse.
-Oh right this is coming from a person that supports using church donations to cover up or protect child abuse. … unbelievable indeed
Origen
08-11-2023, 09:05 AM
Another day of Orange Man Bad you're racismz ect.
So freaking boring
The Left is lost in a false reality of merging politics and personal identity. They don't know how to debate or use logic at all
PatheticDo you want to have a debate club thread, Elizondo? I'll debate you, that would be even funnier than debating Ooloo.
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 09:51 AM
lol really?
that twerp has the most punchable face in the history of nerds
he's also an overpaid smug piece of shit who straight up lied to the entire world on many occasions
And he walked all over Orange Super Prez during Covid. :p
Elizondo
08-11-2023, 09:56 AM
I mean... they're a drug company. Anything they develop is going to treat or cure something. And they'll profit from it. Shit's just PR.
That being said, I miss the right-wingers that were pro-free market (not the same thing as strictly anti-government) rather than being hateful, raging, wanna-be fascists.
The Government was their biggest customer wtf are you talking about
Profiting off of Government Mandates while also being given 100% immunity from said Government (if people die from heart attacks for example) is not "Capitalism"
hth
Homesteaded
08-11-2023, 09:57 AM
The company that didn’t use warpspeed to find a vaccine.
-who hasn’t had a family member affected by cancer?
-The company isn’t squandering or worse.
-Oh right this is coming from a person that supports using church donations to cover up or protect child abuse. … unbelievable indeed
Quit buying into the grift dude.
Quit claiming all Catholics are child molesters, it’s a dumb look.
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 10:00 AM
The Government was their biggest customer wtf are you talking about
Profiting off of Government Mandates while also being given 100% immunity from said Government (if people die from heart attacks for example) is not "Capitalism"
hth
Tromp semi-nationalized the pharmas under the Defense Production Act to produce the vaccines.
Their related activity must therefore be reimbursed and shielded against litigation through sovereign immunity.
Origen
08-11-2023, 10:06 AM
Profiting off of Government Mandates while also being given 100% immunity from said Government (if people die from heart attacks for example) is not "Capitalism"Do you know anything about the history of this economic system you are being killed by? Profiting off of government action while being given immunity from the consequences is capitalism 101.
What, you think the revolving door between regulatory committes, powerful appointments, and corporate leadership is coincidence?
Elizondo
08-11-2023, 10:07 AM
Tromp semi-nationalized the pharmas under the Defense Production Act to produce the vaccines.
Their related activity must therefore be reimbursed and shielded against litigation through sovereign immunity.
'Global Pandemic' ect.
-CCaJLR1zhQ
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 10:08 AM
Do you know anything about the history of this economic system you are being killed by? Profiting off of government action while being given immunity from the consequences is capitalism 101.
What, you think the revolving door between regulatory committes, powerful appointments, and corporate leadership is coincidence?
Hey if the government is forcing them to do something, whatever happens while they are doing it is the government's fault.
It was cool they went along quietly though. 🇺🇲
Origen
08-11-2023, 10:09 AM
For someone who has had hissyfits because people used the edit feature, you should know it's 'etc', or 'et cetera'
Origen
08-11-2023, 10:10 AM
Hey if the government is forcing them to do something, whatever happens while they are doing it is the government's fault.
It was cool they went along quietly though. 🇺🇲I'm not seeing a big distinction between corporation and government in the first place. They have class solidarity with one another!
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 10:13 AM
I'm not seeing a big distinction between corporation and government in the first place. They have class solidarity with one another!
https://i.imgur.com/k9lyxEr.png
Hoo boy. These Liberals just can't wait to get needled again. Good luck with that. Seriously, you'll need it.
https://www.wearethemighty.com/app/uploads/legacy/assets.rbl.ms/22884178/origin.png?width=757
Botten
08-11-2023, 11:26 AM
'Global Pandemic' ect.
<Ez Troll Video>
Oh look it is Ez spouting misinformation from page 106 that was already debunked in a thread that was locked due to disinformation.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408772
She said stopping “immunization” not transmission.
This is from the Special Committee on COVID-19 pandemic, European Parliament, 10/10/2022
https://multimedia.europarl.europa.eu/en/webstreaming/covi-committee-meeting_20221010-1430-COMMITTEE-COVI
Starting at: 15:23:01 was the stupid troll question about transmission.
Then others ask questions and
then Janine Small (Pfizer President of International Developed Markets - Not a Director) answers the Troll question avoiding the obvious word games at 15:31:48
You antivaxxers continue to look like idiots in their own thread.
Botten
08-11-2023, 11:39 AM
Quit buying into the grift dude.
Quit claiming all Catholics are child molesters, it’s a dumb look.
Right because if it happened Once or twice ... hell, if it happened 25 times then we shouldn't buy into Christian facilities having an alarming problem with child abuse.
We certainly cannot allow Donations to be used to protect these institutes and abusers.
Lets check a government site.... hmm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3995507/
Hundreds, Really hundred of child abuse cases??!??!
By all means please keep Preaching how unbelievable donations are used on a cause.
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 12:08 PM
Right because if it happened Once or twice ... hell, if it happened 25 times then we shouldn't buy into Christian facilities having an alarming problem with child abuse.
We certainly cannot allow Donations to be used to protect these institutes and abusers.
Lets check a government site.... hmm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3995507/
Hundreds, Really hundred of child abuse cases??!??!
By all means please keep Preaching how unbelievable donations are used on a cause.
516 in non-religious institutions.
:)
Origen
08-11-2023, 12:18 PM
I like how a certain hateful person is mad that Botten is supposedly accusing all Catholics of being child abusers, but doesn't hesitate to accuse every last gay person, nonbinary person, and every Muslim of being a child abuser. That relativism only points one direction, huh?
Homesteaded
08-11-2023, 01:23 PM
I like how a certain hateful person is mad that Botten is supposedly accusing all Catholics of being child abusers, but doesn't hesitate to accuse every last gay person, nonbinary person, and every Muslim of being a child abuser. That relativism only points one direction, huh?
Literally no one makes that claim. Zondo nailed you guys down, never address, always deflect.
Child abuse is bad 100% of the time despite who does it. Now you say that for the trans lunacy, I dare you.
It’s horrible when a priest abuses a child. Ignore teachers though because reasons. Ignore genital mutilation because reasons.
Ooloo
08-11-2023, 01:27 PM
Literally nobody on this board has ever suggested "every last gay person" abuses children or anything even remotely like that. Go ahead and quote the post, I'd like to see it.
In reality, I think they know that's not true and they just like being annoyingly wrong because they have no actual points or arguments. And hey I can respect a good troll, but it's not very creative.
Origen
08-11-2023, 01:43 PM
Love it when you get them lying about their own words, lol.
Origen
08-11-2023, 01:45 PM
Oh, I see you asking me to categorize all trans procedures for children as child abuse, but this is me, not doing that whatsoever. Because it isn't child abuse, you're just opposed to the freedom of choice when it comes to specific choices you don't like.
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 01:52 PM
Oh, I see you asking me to categorize all trans procedures for children as child abuse, but this is me, not doing that whatsoever. Because it isn't child abuse, you're just opposed to the freedom of choice when it comes to specific choices you don't like.
Am I free to get a haircut? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/11/30/does-this-haircut-make-me-look-like-a-nazi/)
Origen
08-11-2023, 02:10 PM
I'm not trying to make the federal government prevent you from getting the fash haircut.
But I will admit I bristle when I see it on people. Just like red caps. Sometimes it's just a Phillies hat though.
Penish
08-11-2023, 02:13 PM
i just got my 7th booster. im feeling super fresh
go trump
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 02:14 PM
I'm not trying to make the federal government prevent you from getting the fash haircut.
But I will admit I bristle when I see it on people. Just like red caps. Sometimes it's just a Phillies hat though.
Firstly, not federal. But anyway, are you allowed to think that?
Botten
08-11-2023, 02:31 PM
Am I free to get a haircut? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/11/30/does-this-haircut-make-me-look-like-a-nazi/)
…analogies are fun. *Putting in even less energy! Bald people are skin heads.
Or Homesteaded we could deflect the state of local child abuse by showing a fanciful movie made aboard. EZ is fun like that.
Origen
08-11-2023, 02:37 PM
Firstly, not federal. But anyway, are you allowed to think that?Don't fall for that shit, they are obviously trying to use the federal government to prevent the existence of all LGBTQ people. The states are just testing grounds.
Do you really think there's leftist thought police? Even the commie utopia will have movies about World War 2, someone is gonna have to know how to make fascist haircuts.
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 02:42 PM
Am I free to get a haircut? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/11/30/does-this-haircut-make-me-look-like-a-nazi/)
Washington Post should stick to attempting to minimize crime reports so more small stores can go out of business and have Amazon (Bezos owns both) take over
Origen
08-11-2023, 03:18 PM
I reckon you're just envious of those with enough hair to cut :p
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 03:25 PM
I reckon you're just envious of those with enough hair to cut :p
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 03:38 PM
Don't fall for that shit, they are obviously trying to use the federal government to prevent the existence of all LGBTQ people. The states are just testing grounds.
Do you really think there's leftist thought police? Even the commie utopia will have movies about World War 2, someone is gonna have to know how to make fascist haircuts.
Deleted rambling post. :)
If you're allowed to make a judgment over a man with a haircut, are they allowed to make a judgment over a woman sporting a beard?
Origen
08-11-2023, 03:49 PM
Deleted rambling post. :)
If you're allowed to make a judgment over a man with a haircut, are they allowed to make a judgment over a woman sporting a beard?Sure they are. Nobody cares about someone's internal monologue. That isn't the sin.
The actions - discriminatory laws being passed for irrational reasons - that's the bad part.
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 03:59 PM
The actions - discriminatory laws being passed for irrational reasons - that's the bad part.
Invert the redoubt and report back, soldier.
Sadre Spinegnawer
08-11-2023, 04:00 PM
California has some of the most beautiful geography in the world with every imaginable natural resource in abundance and nobody wants to live there. Way to go dems!
Also gavin newsom looks like the villain from an unreleased robocop sequel
I can tell your age.
California is not a political problem. California is a demographic problem.
Back in 1982 me and six friends rented the top floor of 435 40th st. for 100 bucks each a month, plus utilities.
Google maps it and get on down to that street view! See where Sadre lived when he was younger!
Those savvy to the Bay Area note, that is about 5 blocks from Telegraph, and, [bugle sound] the 40th St. BART station.
A BART Station in the Bay Area = BiS housing.
Today! Not then! We were cheappin it! $600 a month rent! 5 bedrooms in those old huge houses.
The tale of Cali the past 40 years is a population draw/boom that simply will not stop. This almost magnetic pull of the coasts has even swarmed and overwhelmed fucking Seattle!
Back in 1982, if you said you were going to Seattle, the first reaction of everyone was a concerned, "Why?"
SO history, the undiscovered country, has been drowning the entire West Coast in an apparently unrelenting population draw. Add plentiful illegal immigration and you got a hot house.
California is not fucking Utah lol. It's madhouse. Both coasts are these years. I much prefer the Beast Coast baby.
Long Beach CA? Long Beach Long Island NY mutherfucker. Hometown of Billy Crystal. I went to school with Rick fucking Rubin. Same class. Junior high. Fuckin A, right? He woulda been just another of the Jewish kids, given where he lived. Lido Beach.
Those who know, know about Lido beach. There are only two types of people who live in Lido Beach.
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Anyhoo. It isn't politics, its massive population growth and the INVENTION OF THE GODDAM PC AND INTRANETS that has eliminated the place this poor loser was kickin it in, Flipper T proudly worn, as I short order cooked at Simon's.
To pay my $100 a month rent. 5 blocks from a BART station.
Is this too complicated to entertain? Cali is all about massive overpopulation of infrastructre/space, and the West Coast does not do "NYC style" life. It does not matter which pparty is in power in Cali. People vastly overestimate what any governmental power can do in a nuclear furnace like the West Coast. And, today, the East Coast too.
You would have to pay me a LOT of money to move back to LI. I mean, a lot.
Sadre Spinegnawer
08-11-2023, 04:01 PM
Here, Long story short. $600 bucks a month rent. Entire top floor.
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Oakland/435-40th-St-94609/home/11892984
EDIT: That LISTING IS FOR A ONE BEDROOM APT in that house. Almost 400k. One bedroom.
The entire house valuation would be around 4 million.
Origen
08-11-2023, 04:06 PM
Invert the redoubt and report back, soldier.Okay I am now fully in favor of using the federal government to ban certain haircuts to compensate for imaginary hypocrisy.
Imagine if they spent as much time researching the correlation between haircuts and violent accidents on Youtube as they did watching Matt Walsh do class war to working class people
Homesteaded
08-11-2023, 04:35 PM
Okay I am now fully in favor of using the federal government to ban certain haircuts to compensate for imaginary hypocrisy.
Imagine if they spent as much time researching the correlation between haircuts and violent accidents on Youtube as they did watching Matt Walsh do class war to working class people
If your hair is green, blue or purple, it's safe to assume you're a drain on society. Also safe to assume you hate yourself.
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 04:41 PM
Okay I am now fully in favor of using the federal government to ban certain haircuts to compensate for imaginary hypocrisy.
Imagine if they spent as much time researching the correlation between haircuts and violent accidents on Youtube as they did watching Matt Walsh do class war to working class people
It could happen here. 🤪
Botten
08-11-2023, 04:52 PM
If your hair is green, blue or purple, it's safe to assume you're a drain on society. Also safe to assume you hate yourself.
Not really surprised you have a problem with color. Thankfully your white hood or MAGA hat manages all kinds of uncomfortable situations for you.
cd288
08-11-2023, 05:55 PM
You pick the parameters. Any sort of lift, a race at any distance, etc
I lift about 1.5-2hrs/day after work and work out a broken up 3-4ish hours on each of my 3 off days in different sessions. I just do my own thing lifting, I don’t do a HIIT or powerlift. When I do cardio it’s usually a 3-5 mile run, cardio hiking, or swimming laps. These I do about 3-4 times/week
This was most recent physique pic, I censored it even further because I was in my boxers and that’s a bit risqué for the forums here, even though in the original I was covering my junk with a shirt in my hand
Looks like you've put in some solid work. Respect. And thanks for the clarification on the censoring because for a split second I was like bro did you send us a censored dick pic lol.
This was my latest from a couple weeks ago (although admittedly the type/placement of my bathroom lighting does amplify tone a bit lol). I'm 178 currently so it seems like you might have like 10-15 pounds on me maybe? If we did body weight stuff we could just factor that in for rep totals.
Only caveat I would say as far as exercises involved is I wouldn't do heavy load barbell squat (have a pars defect in my lower back due to a fractured vertebrae I got in a game several years ago, so my L discs are weaker and if I fuck up form on a heavy barbell squat could fuck my back up worse down there) but other than that I'm prob down for whatever.
Ooloo
08-11-2023, 05:56 PM
Botten\sadre jesus christ you're allowed to include more than one sentence per paragraph you know. Your posts are like:
Sentence.
Sentence.
Sentence.
Sentence.
Homesteaded
08-11-2023, 05:59 PM
Botten\sadre jesus christ you're allowed to include more than one sentence per paragraph you know. Your posts are like:
Sentence.
Sentence.
Sentence.
Sentence.
It
Comes
From
An
Inflated
Ego
,
They
Think
Everything
They
Say
Is
Profound
.
Botten
08-11-2023, 06:04 PM
Isn’t it
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 06:26 PM
I can tell your age.
California is not a political problem. California is a demographic problem.
Back in 1982 me and six friends rented the top floor of 435 40th st. for 100 bucks each a month, plus utilities.
Google maps it and get on down to that street view! See where Sadre lived when he was younger!
Those savvy to the Bay Area note, that is about 5 blocks from Telegraph, and, [bugle sound] the 40th St. BART station.
A BART Station in the Bay Area = BiS housing.
Today! Not then! We were cheappin it! $600 a month rent! 5 bedrooms in those old huge houses.
The tale of Cali the past 40 years is a population draw/boom that simply will not stop. This almost magnetic pull of the coasts has even swarmed and overwhelmed fucking Seattle!
Back in 1982, if you said you were going to Seattle, the first reaction of everyone was a concerned, "Why?"
SO history, the undiscovered country, has been drowning the entire West Coast in an apparently unrelenting population draw. Add plentiful illegal immigration and you got a hot house.
California is not fucking Utah lol. It's madhouse. Both coasts are these years. I much prefer the Beast Coast baby.
Long Beach CA? Long Beach Long Island NY mutherfucker. Hometown of Billy Crystal. I went to school with Rick fucking Rubin. Same class. Junior high. Fuckin A, right? He woulda been just another of the Jewish kids, given where he lived. Lido Beach.
Those who know, know about Lido beach. There are only two types of people who live in Lido Beach.
---------------------------
Anyhoo. It isn't politics, its massive population growth and the INVENTION OF THE GODDAM PC AND INTRANETS that has eliminated the place this poor loser was kickin it in, Flipper T proudly worn, as I short order cooked at Simon's.
To pay my $100 a month rent. 5 blocks from a BART station.
Is this too complicated to entertain? Cali is all about massive overpopulation of infrastructre/space, and the West Coast does not do "NYC style" life. It does not matter which pparty is in power in Cali. People vastly overestimate what any governmental power can do in a nuclear furnace like the West Coast. And, today, the East Coast too.
You would have to pay me a LOT of money to move back to LI. I mean, a lot.
Rent control incites inelastic housing supply and maximizes prices for extant housing while crippling the creation of new units. Whether you think that's political I don't know.
This ain't your grandpa's suspenders, boyo! They're stacking us in pillboxes out here.
cd288
08-11-2023, 06:26 PM
Looks like you've put in some solid work. Respect. And thanks for the clarification on the censoring because for a split second I was like bro did you send us a censored dick pic lol.
This was my latest from a couple weeks ago (although admittedly the type/placement of my bathroom lighting does amplify tone a bit lol). I'm 178 currently so it seems like you might have like 10-15 pounds on me maybe? If we did body weight stuff we could just factor that in for rep totals.
Only caveat I would say as far as exercises involved is I wouldn't do heavy load barbell squat (have a pars defect in my lower back due to a fractured vertebrae I got in a game several years ago, so my L discs are weaker and if I fuck up form on a heavy barbell squat could fuck my back up worse down there) but other than that I'm prob down for whatever.
Reposting since I'm apparently too dense to upload a photo correctly on here for you.
Justsellinsomeloot
08-11-2023, 06:42 PM
You guys are fuckin’ sad people. Lemme take my shirt off.
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 06:55 PM
Reposting since I'm apparently too dense to upload a photo correctly on here for you.
NICE elite level physique!
You did not strike me as an athlete, props. We have more in common than I thought
edit: I've been around 210 for a while, but I'm 6'1
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 06:56 PM
You guys are fuckin’ sad people. Lemme take my shirt off.
Feel free, but there is a "lose weight" thread where it is more applicable TBH
edit: I planned to post an update there for a while, which would be a "best shape of my life at 40" milestone, but that time has already come and went and I still need to stip some fat and re-comp some stuff. I'd also want to include pics throughout the last 8ish years of athletics
cd288
08-11-2023, 07:04 PM
NICE elite level physique!
You did not strike me as an athlete, props. We have more in common than I thought
edit: I've been around 210 for a while, but I'm 6'1
Thanks dude. Appreciate it. Miracle what sprints and cardio can do to tone things lol
Also, so it doesn't seem like I'm hiding behind private messages and not owning it publicly, for the record I messaged unsung to apologize to him today for things I've said the past day (or two?) in this thread. It was uncalled for by me.
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 07:49 PM
Thanks dude. Appreciate it. Miracle what sprints and cardio can do to tone things lol
Most likely as soon as your arm healed enough, if you picked a sprint contest with your build and your weight, you would likely decisively win. I hate sprinting TBH ;)
I am not even as good at distance running as I used to when I weighed 170. This was a recent 5 mile time I did, but back in the day I could do a half marathon (13 mile, at a 7:15ish m/mile pace). I hope to get back to that, but have recently had one leg or another issue come up
But
Even at distance, I am not the fastest here. Homesteaded is arguably as fast or faster if he is still training, and would crush me at any swim
I can def have an ego, but also know when I am beat ;)
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 08:06 PM
My response when ever I challenge someone and lose
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iwc5uC7ojxs
Homesteaded
08-11-2023, 08:10 PM
My training has been off this summer, been in a bit of a funk. I tweaked my ankle so I haven’t been running, hockey is by far my favorite workout.
Elizondo
08-11-2023, 09:10 PM
Oh look it is Ez spouting misinformation from page 106 that was already debunked in a thread that was locked due to disinformation.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408772
You can't debunk Truth. Truth isn't 'misinformation'
Cope and Seethe
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8
Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses
Volume 31, ISSUE 1, P146-157, January 11, 2023
David M. Morens / Jeffery K. Taubenberger / Anthony S. Fauci
Viruses that replicate in the human respiratory mucosa without infecting systemically, including influenza A, SARS-CoV-2, endemic coronaviruses, RSV, and many other “common cold” viruses, cause significant mortality and morbidity and are important public health concerns. Because these viruses generally do not elicit complete and durable protective immunity by themselves, they have not to date been effectively controlled by licensed or experimental vaccines.
Origen
08-11-2023, 09:11 PM
Speaking of truth
You ready to talk about your last date, Elizondo?
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 09:43 PM
Speaking of truth
You ready to talk about your last date, Elizondo?
Haha I bet it was with a man!
unsunghero
08-11-2023, 10:16 PM
Deleted rambling post. :)
If you're allowed to make a judgment over a man with a haircut, are they allowed to make a judgment over a woman sporting a beard?
Speaking of that. Attacking these people is low hanging fruit (he does pay the occasional compliment like when the bearded lady loses weight), and his voice is so GD annoying, but I couldn't help but watch this all the way through. Mostly because I like seeing human behavior, especially in dating/social type settings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NVedtDMrKQ
Botten
08-11-2023, 10:52 PM
You can't debunk Truth. Truth isn't 'misinformation'
Cope and Seethe
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8
Your out of context, play on words and short youtube clip was shown to be expressing misinformation on purpose to push a false statement.
What's worst is that it was debunked back in 10/11/2022 in a thread that got locked due to antivax trolling.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408772&page=106
She said stopping “immunization” not transmission.
This is from the Special Committee on COVID-19 pandemic, European Parliament, 10/10/2022
https://multimedia.europarl.europa.eu/en/webstreaming/covi-committee-meeting_20221010-1430-COMMITTEE-COVI
Starting at: 15:23:01 was the stupid troll question about transmission.
Then others ask questions and
then Janine Small (Pfizer President of International Developed Markets - Not a Director) answers the Troll question avoiding the obvious word games at 15:31:48
You are parroting fakenews EZ. But it is what you do best.
Lastly from your own article:
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8
I will pick the part of your article you can understand best:
"influenza and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines reduce disease severity"
Trexller
08-11-2023, 11:13 PM
"influenza and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines reduce disease severity"
https://media.tenor.com/BzdybKbJj7gAAAAd/moving-goalpost.gif
Botten
08-11-2023, 11:17 PM
Moving on to modern day events:
A three-judge panel of the United States 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has struck down Mississippi's lifetime ban on voting for people convicted of certain felonies, saying it is unconstitutional because it inflicts cruel and unusual punishment.
Admittedly this is weird since the 5th Circuit Court is very conservative.
This could result in a lot of ex-convicts getting their voting power back.
Conventional wisdom says that Republicans don’t want to give ex-felons voting rights because they’ll end up voting for Democrats. But is this true?
Or is this just a sad attempt to give Jan 6th MAGA voters back their vote before the election?
aussenseiter
08-11-2023, 11:30 PM
Moving on to modern day events:
A three-judge panel of the United States 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has struck down Mississippi's lifetime ban on voting for people convicted of certain felonies, saying it is unconstitutional because it inflicts cruel and unusual punishment.
Admittedly this is weird since the 5th Circuit Court is very conservative.
This could result in a lot of ex-convicts getting their voting power back.
Conventional wisdom says that Republicans don’t want to give ex-felons voting rights because they’ll end up voting for Democrats. But is this true?
Or is this just a sad attempt to give Jan 6th MAGA voters back their vote before the election?
In the ruling Friday, the two judges in favor of restoring voting rights — King and Dennis — were nominated by Democratic presidents and the one who disagreed — Judge Edith H. Jones — was nominated by a Republican president.
Elizondo
08-11-2023, 11:38 PM
Your out of context, play on words and short youtube clip was shown to be expressing misinformation on purpose to push a false statement.
What's worst is that it was debunked back in 10/11/2022 in a thread that got locked due to antivax trolling.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408772&page=106
Whining 'misinformation' because you can't handle the facts isn't my problem. You are making a crucial mistake. What was censored and labeled 'misinformation' by your overlords in (2021 - 2022) is no longer the case. I'm giving you sources and articles from present day 2023 and all of your 'experts that can't be questioned' are confirming what we were saying in 2021 and 2022.
I don't think you realize you're in a deep hole without any escape. If you try and deboonk what The NYT is saying now, then everything they published that was the exact opposite (2021 - 2022) immediately becomes suspect and is thrown out the window. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
This is the problem with your propaganda on The Left. You push narratives. Not facts. Then you slow roll the truth years later after all the damage has already been done. Another example is Hunter Biden's laptop. It was originally not real. Russian Disinfo. Now it's 100% true.
Same thing with 'Russian Collusion'. A total made up lie. 100%. You STILL are grasping at straws trying to claim there is a there there and this i why you can't debate. Even after the Truth is self evident, you cling to lies and fantasies or you try and smear the source.
Except you can't smear these sources. They are your Ministry of Truth. Fauci and The NYT. So go ahead and 'pick apart' the article. It was written by Fauci and friends.
And AGAIN. Everything they claimed about the effectiveness of the jabs was a LIE
You're not even trying to argue the inflation of Covid death numbers anymore. You can't. It happened and there is source after source that you put on a pedestal that now say that's exactly what happened. You live and die by 'The Experts'. You can't think on your own, so whatever they say becomes your Dogma.
You are parroting fakenews EZ. But it is what you do best.
Lastly from your own article:
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8
I will pick the part of your article you can understand best:
"influenza and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines reduce disease severity"
Viruses that replicate in the human respiratory mucosa without infecting systemically, including influenza A, SARS-CoV-2, endemic coronaviruses, RSV, and many other “common cold” viruses, cause significant mortality and morbidity and are important public health concerns. Because these viruses generally do not elicit complete and durable protective immunity by themselves, they have not to date been effectively controlled by licensed or experimental vaccines.
22657
Stick a fork in you. You're done.
Botten
08-11-2023, 11:39 PM
In the ruling Friday, the two judges in favor of restoring voting rights — King and Dennis — were nominated by Democratic presidents and the one who disagreed — Judge Edith H. Jones — was nominated by a Republican president.
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/04/1192295228/mississippi-felon-voting-law-blocked
The 5th Circuit is one of the most conservative appeals courts in the U.S.
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