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Elizondo
09-08-2023, 09:06 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/13/13/13438354-7022561-image-a-20_1557750029012.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/13/13/13430854-7022561-image-m-19_1557750000900.jpg

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Origen
09-08-2023, 11:22 PM
Dick Cheney coming out strongly against Trump. Do you get it yet?Yeah, there's story arcs where one villain fights another, doesn't make evil appealing

unsunghero
09-09-2023, 01:27 AM
Boomer memes

unsunghero
09-09-2023, 01:27 AM
Inc

unsunghero
09-09-2023, 01:28 AM
Now

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 01:33 AM
Yeah, there's story arcs where one villain fights another, doesn't make evil appealing

It’s when all the evil piece of shits on both sides go after the man. That’s when it confirms to me that Trump is in fact as true American badass.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 01:34 AM
https://project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23004&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1694237310

checks out, i've been to seattle, portland, philadelphia, baltimore

someone needs to go figure out wtf pittsburgh is doing. it's another democrat bastion but they got their shit together

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 01:35 AM
That picture on the right looks way better than the shit that’s going on in Portland.

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 02:36 AM
That picture on the right looks way better than the shit that’s going on in Portland.

Democrats use city streets as a toilet and then claim they care about "The Environment"

Comedy ensues

Duik
09-09-2023, 04:58 AM
Sawn-off shotgun anyone? Nvm.

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:25 AM
Democrats use city streets as a toilet and then claim they care about "The Environment"

Comedy ensues

Better than using the capital as a geriatric jamboree of failed treasonous coup like actions.

No one gets years and years in jail like GOP brainwashed fanatics. 🤣

unsunghero
09-09-2023, 09:03 AM
Sawn-off shotgun anyone? Nvm.

O shit I guess these are legal in some states

Always thought a sawed off looked cool as a kid, until I started working at sports authority and saw some of their tactical shotties, then I wanted one of them instead

Still never got one, have 9mm as my excuse for home defense

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 09:56 AM
Better than using the capital as a geriatric jamboree of failed treasonous coup like actions.

No one gets years and years in jail like GOP brainwashed fanatics. 🤣

Lol you would have made a great nazi. It doesn't take some right wing lunatic to admit some of these sentences are completely absurd, malicious and purely politically motivated.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 10:01 AM
Lol you would have made a great nazi. It doesn't take some right wing lunatic to admit some of these sentences are completely absurd, malicious and purely politically motivated.

Clifton, Chadwick Gordon

21 days’ intermittent confinement
36 months’ probation
90 days’ home confinement
$500 restitution

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 10:45 AM
Better than using the capital as a geriatric jamboree of failed treasonous coup like actions.

No one gets years and years in jail like GOP brainwashed fanatics. 🤣

Still pearl clutching your JAN6! Hoax and bragging that Dems went full Saddam Hussein

Pure Comedy

unsunghero
09-09-2023, 11:10 AM
So Riewa says we are helping NY getting fed funding by broadcasting their migrant situation?

It is ironic that the thing that helps NY is probably 80/20 coverage by GOP partisan news vs mainstream media (dem partisan) who tries to minimize anything related to migrants or border

I don't care if it results in them getting help, NY would be a shit place to be homeless in winter; I think that's far more dangerous than even homeless in summer. We only lose about 70 homeless/year to heat stroke

NY about to be in a humanitarian crisis come winter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b19AzWzJYKs

Sadre Spinegnawer
09-09-2023, 11:34 AM
it's worse, he does it for free. every one of his pardons is indefensible and was prolly jared's idea

https://i.imgur.com/lDL8gFm.jpg

and everyone conveniently forgets how insane his stimulus plan was, dude literally tried to buy black votes with 500 billion dollars.


whoever wins, it's a loss for the American people.

Jared is the real gut player here at the end. Dude is set up with so much foreign capital and connections. I doubt he even takes Ivanka's calls anymore.

I'm not a fan of super creeps, but I recognize game.

Botten
09-09-2023, 11:43 AM
Still pearl clutching your JAN6! Hoax and bragging that Dems went full Saddam Hussein

Pure Comedy

I actually think you’ve gotten worse at insulting.

-calling Jan 6 a hoax when you know some of your most motivated far right Looney Toon characters got jail time and most likely lose their chance in their red state to vote in the 2024 election.

-comparing Democrats to Saddam Hussein who was associated with a war started by republican president; that you MAGA voters all shame… to now famous shaming statement: “There was no weapons of mass destruction.”

Poor EZ

Botten
09-09-2023, 11:48 AM
Jared is the real gut player here at the end. Dude is set up with so much foreign capital and connections. I doubt he even takes Ivanka's calls anymore.

I'm not a fan of super creeps, but I recognize game.

The deal Jared worked out with what was Twitter for Saudi Arabia really helped the new king eliminate his Arab spring vocal online opponents.

Jared and the Trump administration even helped the new Saudi king to murder an American with no repercussions.

Republican voters must be proud.

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 11:50 AM
I actually think you’ve gotten worse at insulting.

-calling Jan 6 a hoax when you know some of your most motivated far right Looney Toon characters got jail time and most likely lose their chance in their red state to vote in the 2024 election.

-comparing Democrats to Saddam Hussein who was associated with a war started by republican president; that you MAGA voters all shame… to now famous shaming statement: “There was no weapons of mass destruction.”

Poor EZ

Dems have gone full Saddam Hussein with their sham impeachments, sham indictments and kangaroo courts handing out ridiculous sentences over bogus charges while they let mobs of trash loot and pillage their shithole communities. It's a joke and so are you.

JAN6! was just a rally that got a little rowdy. Fedbois were all over the place instigating the violence. It's irrefutable, yet here you are pushing bogus claims of 'insurrection' just like you push all the rest of the notsee ERR Dem propaganda like Russian Collusion, Global Warming, ect.

You're literally a wind up doll of MSNPC talking points. I just laugh at you.

Botten
09-09-2023, 11:59 AM
Dems have gone full Saddam Hussein with their sham impeachments, sham indictments and kangaroo courts handing out ridiculous sentences over bogus charges while they let mobs of trash loot and pillage their shithole communities. It's a joke and so are you.

JAN6! was just a rally that got a little rowdy. Fedbois were all over the place instigating the violence. It's irrefutable, yet here you are pushing bogus claims of 'insurrection' just like you push all the rest of the notsee ERR Dem propaganda like Russian Collusion, Global Warming, ect.

You're literally a wind up doll of MSNPC talking points. I just laugh at you.

LoL, Oh Conspiracy EZ be mad. Good :)

2024 going to be an easy win for Dems.

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 12:03 PM
LoL, Oh Conspiracy EZ be mad. Good :)

2024 going to be an easy win for Dems.

Yea it's going to be so easy that's you Baathists are trying to keep Maga King off the ballot

lawl

Landroval
09-09-2023, 12:04 PM
Interesting fact. When Bloody Kansas was applying for statehood, the Democrats called the antislavery government legislature in Topeka an "insurrection" while composing a legislature of pro-slavery government of Missourian imposter residents on the Missouri border. They were pissed because Nebraska was enacted as a free state, and they were going to lose the stalemate in the Senate; Missouri compromise be damned.

unsunghero
09-09-2023, 12:23 PM
“During the open-comment portion before the disruption, a woman who identified herself as a member of the radical group objected to discussing the policy with "fascists."

"We're getting organized for a real revolution to get rid of the system," she told the audience. "Any kind of trying to negotiate with any of these fascists in the room, on the board, is illegitimate."

She then called for anyone "with humanity for LGBTQ people" to "get ready for a revolution to overthrow this whole system that gave birth to this White supremacy and this male supremacy."”

- I dunno, sounds a lot like sedition to me. 22 years in prison a la Proud Boys?

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 12:25 PM
Yea it's going to be so easy that's you Baathists are trying to keep Maga King off the ballot

lawl

Hey Vice PresidentsSecretaries of State(s) are totally allowed to do that.

🤪

Sadre Spinegnawer
09-09-2023, 12:49 PM
lawl still pushin Russian Collusion Hoax

So sad

Even 65% of your own party doesn't want Simple Joe to run for re-election. He's a total failure.

https://i.imgur.com/Fq2URQR.jpg

Botten
09-09-2023, 01:44 PM
Yea it's going to be so easy that's you Baathists are trying to keep Maga King off the ballot

lawl

Who really is trying desperately to interfere with justice?

Fani Willis's letter to congress was brilliant!

In the letter, Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis accused Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) of “an unjustified and illegal intrusion into an open state criminal prosecution” with his own recent letter demanding records related to the investigation and indictment of Trump and his allies on charges.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23941366-jim-jordan-letter

Chairman Jordan, I tell people often “deal with reality or reality will deal with you.” It is time that you deal with some basic realities. A Special Purpose Grand Jury made up of everyday citizens investigated for 10 months and made recommendations to me. A further reality is that a grand jury of completely different Fulton County citizens found probable cause against the defendants named in the indictment for RICO violations and various other felonies. Face this reality, Chairman Jordan: the select group of defendants who you fret over in my jurisdiction are like every other defendant, entitled 10 no worse or better treatment than any other American citizen.

Here is another reality you must ‘face: Those who wish to avoid (felony charges in Fulton County, Georgia — including violations of Georgia RICO law — should not commit ‘felonies in Fulton County, Georgia.


Your questioning of the inclusion of overt and predicate acts by the defendants in the indictment’s racketeering count shows a total ignorance of Georgia’s racketeering statute and the basics of criminal conspiracy law. Allow me the Opportunity to provide a brief tutorial on criminal conspiracy law, Chairman Jordan. As I explained to the public when announcing the indictment, the overt and predicate acts are included because the grand jury found probable cause that those acts were committed to advance the objectives of a criminal conspiracy to overturn the result of Georgia’s 2020 Presidential Election. For a more thorough understanding of Georgia’s RICO statute, its application and similar laws in other states, I encourage you to read “RICO State-by-State.” As a non-member of the bar, you can purchase a copy for two hundred forty-nine dollars [$249].

Wow she burned him good here!

Best part is here:

23007

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 02:48 PM
Who really is trying desperately to interfere with justice?

Fani Willis's letter to congress was brilliant!

In the letter, Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis accused Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) of “an unjustified and illegal intrusion into an open state criminal prosecution” with his own recent letter demanding records related to the investigation and indictment of Trump and his allies on charges.


lawl "Justice" ..

Sham indictment

Everybody knows it

Sadre Spinegnawer
09-09-2023, 03:13 PM
Elizondo, have you heard of The Epoch Times? They have turned up some information that I think you would find intriguing. They raise a lot of the same points you do.

If Mike Pence had to certify the election that afternoon, then why did his security team escort him to the basement before anyone had breached the Capitol?

The security footage everyone is familiar with is all edited. When you see the unedited footage, which the Epoch Times has, a lot of people here are going to see some things don't add up, and I'm a liberal.

Origen
09-09-2023, 03:23 PM
It’s when all the evil piece of shits on both sides go after the man. That’s when it confirms to me that Trump is in fact as true American badass.Not surprising, all Trump supporters are cowards with more anger than sense

Origen
09-09-2023, 03:31 PM
lawl "Justice" ..

Sham indictment

Everybody knows itI dunno, dude. I don't know if the people actually carrying out the prosecutions know that. Trump getting indicted on a "sham" is pretty funny, though, since it's his fellow conservatives trying to take him down. Like an evil firefighter dying in a fire he started.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 03:39 PM
I dunno, dude. I don't know if the people actually carrying out the prosecutions know that. Trump getting indicted on a "sham" is pretty funny, though, since it's his fellow conservatives trying to take him down. Like an evil firefighter dying in a fire he started.

Bragg said the same-ish thing earlier this year. Feds haven't got purview/oversight in state cases.

OTOH, 11th Circuit removal this week maybe.

Botten
09-09-2023, 03:40 PM
lawl "Justice" ..

Sham indictment

Everybody knows it

LoL the fact that conservatives and Trump’s administration are actually taking down Trump.

Poor EZ has nothing left other than to write his manifesto and go lone wolf for Trump.

VvsTosmq27A

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 04:01 PM
LoL the fact that conservatives and Trump’s administration are actually taking down Trump.

Poor EZ has nothing left other than to write his manifesto and go lone wolf for Trump.

VvsTosmq27A


You still don’t get it do you? You’re still supporting the group of people that axed Bernie Sanders because he wasn’t a political shill, they axed Ron Paul because he didn’t want foreign wars, they’re telling you Epstein killed himself, that the vaccine is 99.9% effective and wearing a cloth on your mouth will stop the spread, the same people said the world will be over in 12 years because of climate change. These same people killed a million plus in Iraq and Afghanistan, destabilized Tunisia, Libya , Egypt and Syria. The same people that prop up the military industrial complex by continually funding foreign wars like Ukraine. They won’t give RFK Jr just like they won’t give Andrew Yang, Sanders, or Tulsi
Gabbard a real shot

These people transcend party lines, notice that all the facts above point back to both parties. These people hate Trump because he’s called out the bullshitters and hucksters, he’s told the American people that the elite are screwing the American people with constant foreign wars, military industrial complex, corruption, unfair regulation, unfair taxation, poor financial management and zero accountability in government.

I still can’t believe you support the Bidens, the Bushes, the Clintons, yet shit on Trump like he’s the one that’s caused the problems that faces America today.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 04:28 PM
You still don’t get it do you? You’re still supporting the group of people that axed Bernie Sanders because he wasn’t a political shill, they axed Ron Paul because he didn’t want foreign wars, they’re telling you Epstein killed himself, that the vaccine is 99.9% effective and wearing a cloth on your mouth will stop the spread, the same people said the world will be over in 12 years because of climate change. These same people killed a million plus in Iraq and Afghanistan, destabilized Tunisia, Libya , Egypt and Syria. The same people that prop up the military industrial complex by continually funding foreign wars like Ukraine. They won’t give RFK Jr just like they won’t give Andrew Yang, Sanders, or Tulsi
Gabbard a real shot

These people transcend party lines

Botten doesn't understand politics, or even reality for that matter beyond the mass media narrative which he lives his life by. this guy is incapable of independent thought. he's exactly the type of brainless follower lemming that the elites seek to cultivate through modern educational institutions.

he cannot be saved or helped, so don't bother.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 04:43 PM
Botten doesn't understand politics, or even reality for that matter beyond the mass media narrative which he lives his life by. this guy is incapable of independent thought. he's exactly the type of brainless follower lemming that the elites seek to cultivate through modern educational institutions.

he cannot be saved or helped, so don't bother.

What if you and I want bad things? Should we be allowed to have them?

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 04:51 PM
What if you and I want bad things? Should we be allowed to have them?

No. Society should suppress bad things and encourage good things.

Imprisoning people for multiple decades (longer than many rapists and murderers get) for what amounts to criminal mischief, is a bad thing. Voting out the people who are doing that would be a good thing.

The rule of law is a good thing. The unequal application of the law is a bad thing. Etc!

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 04:54 PM
No. Society should suppress bad things and encourage good things.

Imprisoning people for multiple decades (longer than many rapists and murderers get) for what amounts to criminal mischief, is a bad thing. Voting out the people who are doing that would be a good thing.

The rule of law is a good thing. The unequal application of the law is a bad thing. Etc!

Miller,
Stephanie

1:21-CR-00266-TSC 40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2)(G)

14 days’ incarceration
60 hours’ community service
$500 restitution

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 04:57 PM
Miller,
Stephanie

1:21-CR-00266-TSC 40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2)(G)

14 days’ incarceration
60 hours’ community service
$500 restitution

Right, I'm talking about the people who got two decades. Not the ones who didn't.

What was that specific person actually charged with, btw?

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 04:59 PM
Right, I'm talking about the people who got two decades. Not the ones who didn't.

What was that specific person actually charged with, btw?

Well that's alright I guess, as long as you aren't portraying them as the typical Jan 6 defendant.

Parading in a capitol building.

https://i.imgur.com/hUc28EJ.png

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 05:00 PM
LoL the fact that conservatives and Trump’s administration are actually taking down Trump.

Poor EZ has nothing left other than to write his manifesto and go lone wolf for Trump.

You're just posting absolute nonsense

These are all sham indictments. Just like the sham impeachments. Just like your sham Russian Collusion Hoax. It's all so laughably transparent.

You bozos are even testing the Covid waters again because you're getting so desperate to stop Maga King and need cover to try and steal 2024 like you stole 2020.

Origen
09-09-2023, 05:02 PM
You still don’t get it do you? You’re still supporting the group of people that axed Bernie Sanders because he wasn’t a political shill, they axed Ron Paul because he didn’t want foreign wars, they’re telling you Epstein killed himself, that the vaccine is 99.9% effective and wearing a cloth on your mouth will stop the spread, the same people said the world will be over in 12 years because of climate change. These same people killed a million plus in Iraq and Afghanistan, destabilized Tunisia, Libya , Egypt and Syria. The same people that prop up the military industrial complex by continually funding foreign wars like Ukraine. They won’t give RFK Jr just like they won’t give Andrew Yang, Sanders, or Tulsi
Gabbard a real shot

These people transcend party lines, notice that all the facts above point back to both parties. These people hate Trump because he’s called out the bullshitters and hucksters, he’s told the American people that the elite are screwing the American people with constant foreign wars, military industrial complex, corruption, unfair regulation, unfair taxation, poor financial management and zero accountability in government.

I still can’t believe you support the Bidens, the Bushes, the Clintons, yet shit on Trump like he’s the one that’s caused the problems that faces America today.I can't believe you goobers think Trump is actually opposed to the elite, I believe you on all of the stuff but that. Trump is a symptom of all of those problems, not the cure. He didn't cause most of this crap, he's just good at exploiting it and manipulating people.

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 05:07 PM
Well that's alright I guess, as long as you aren't portraying them as the typical Jan 6 defendant.

Parading in a capitol building.

https://i.imgur.com/hUc28EJ.png

There are three fair ways to apply the law:

1) Throw the book at everyone
2) Give everyone a slap on the wrist
3) Apply judicial discretion in a non-partisan way

Which one are the J6 defendants getting?

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 05:13 PM
There are three fair ways to apply the law:

1) Throw the book at everyone
2) Give everyone a slap on the wrist
3) Apply judicial discretion in a non-partisan way

Which one are the J6 defendants getting?

Seems like #2 for 332 of them.

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 05:19 PM
Seems like #2 for 332 of them.

So two weeks in jail for "parading in a capitol building" after capitol police let you into the building is a slap on the wrist? Did they somehow prove that she didn't see a bunch of people being let in by police before she went on her parade?

There's at least one guy whose charges were dropped after video emerged of police opening the doors for him. Which is fine and dandy, but it kind of reads as guilty until proven innocent.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 05:21 PM
So two weeks in jail for "parading in a capitol building" after capitol police let you into the building is a slap on the wrist? Did they somehow prove that she didn't see a bunch of people being let in by police before she went on her parade?

There's at least one guy whose charges were dropped after video emerged of police opening the doors for him. Which is fine and dandy, but it kind of reads as guilty until proven innocent.

Unfortunately, if you are convicted of a 2nd DUI in WA State, you are required to serve at least 30 days in jail as the minimum sentence.

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 05:23 PM
Unfortunately, if you are convicted of a 2nd DUI in WA State, you are required to serve at least 30 days in jail as the minimum sentence.

That's quite a non-sequitur but okay

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 05:25 PM
That's quite a non-sequitur but okay

I likened it to a DUI last time we danced this dance, pilgrim. It's a paste.

Botten
09-09-2023, 06:06 PM
You're just posting absolute nonsense

These are all sham indictments. Just like the sham impeachments. Just like your sham Russian Collusion Hoax. It's all so laughably transparent.

You bozos are even testing the Covid waters again because you're getting so desperate to stop Maga King and need cover to try and steal 2024 like you stole 2020.

If you want absolute nonsense you don't need to look no further than your fellow brainwash GOP (Topgun) writing your over ignorant manifesto for you.

(LoL @ GOP mouth pieces Ron Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK; Epstein in Barr's care, Arab issues from Bushx2 Iraq wars, ignoring the fact that Trump wore a mask & took the Vax, Petroleum companies studies proving climate change or the illusion Trump didn't want to nuke North Korea or start a war with Iran (but thankfully wussed out).

Cowardly Bunker boy Trump was a pretty failure of a king.

(You really can't get off that Fox cliche and admit there was Russian Interference?)

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 06:11 PM
I likened it to a DUI last time we danced this dance, pilgrim. It's a paste.

Yeah and it's still a non-sequitur which doesn't answer the question of whether they're being prosecuted fairly or not. You're just off in the weeds about mandatory minimums (to say nothing of whether mandatory minimums themselves constitute justice), pilgrim.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 06:22 PM
Yeah and it's still a non-sequitur which doesn't answer the question of whether they're being prosecuted fairly or not. You're just off in the weeds about mandatory minimums (to say nothing of whether mandatory minimums themselves constitute justice), pilgrim.

It's half(or less) as harsh a punishment to run up in the capitol as it is to drive drunk. You're being silly with the miscarriage of justice premise.

It didn't have to be this way. You had the document.

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 06:23 PM
It's half as harsh a punishment to run up in the capitol as it is to drive drunk. You're acting silly with the miscarriage of justice premise.

Running up in the capitol when you see police waving a bunch of people in got at least one guy let off. How does this jive with 20 years for the proud boys dude not even being there?

Miscarriage of justice is either afoot or it's not, I'm still not quite sure what you're actually saying as usual.

If you're saying "justice was delivered for some people and for others it wasn't" then we agree.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 06:29 PM
Running up in the capitol when you see police waving a bunch of people in got at least one guy let off. How does this jive with 20 years for the proud boys dude not even being there?

Miscarriage of justice is either afoot or it's not, I'm still not quite sure what you're actually saying as usual.

If you're saying "justice was delivered for some people and for others it wasn't" then we agree.

The 20 yearsers were convicted of like 8 things and sentenced for those things. Justice is present even when it's a bad look for your team.

The most common charge and conviction was parading. 14 days is quite an accomodation for trying to run the jewels on the United States government.

magnetaress
09-09-2023, 06:32 PM
Going back to the prohibition would be nice. Just sayin folks.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 06:34 PM
I can't believe you goobers think Trump is actually opposed to the elite, I believe you on all of the stuff but that. Trump is a symptom of all of those problems, not the cure. He didn't cause most of this crap, he's just good at exploiting it and manipulating people.

Again, trump has been totally black balled by the establishment. Why? Because he's calling out the bull shit. I dont know why you cant see this. The Establishment Elites absolutely hate Trump - for that reason alone you have to give him a second look.

I can understand being skeptical of him in the pre-president years. But once he got into office, he was ultra transparent, would take any interview at nearly any time. He would answer questions when he had a 30 second wait to get into the heli. As far as I know, hes the only President in my lifetime that has called out the swamp for what it is.

I didnt vote for Trump in 2016, because I truly thought he was a joke. But his words and actions have been so on point with what is happening in America today.

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 06:35 PM
The 20 yearsers were convicted of like 8 things and sentenced for those things. Justice is present even when it's a bad look for your team.

The most common charge and conviction was parading. 14 days is quite an accomodation for trying to run the jewels on the United States government.

Lol so is your point that there can be no bad charges, judgements or verdicts?

Hint: I haven't been arguing this whole time that nobody got charged or convicted of anything, but rather the quality of those charges and convictions is suspect.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 06:43 PM
If you want absolute nonsense you don't need to look no further than your fellow brainwash GOP (Topgun) writing your over ignorant manifesto for you.

(LoL @ GOP mouth pieces Ron Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK; Epstein in Barr's care, Arab issues from Bushx2 Iraq wars, ignoring the fact that Trump wore a mask & took the Vax, Petroleum companies studies proving climate change or the illusion Trump didn't want to nuke North Korea or start a war with Iran (but thankfully wussed out).

Cowardly Bunker boy Trump was a pretty failure of a king.

(You really can't get off that Fox cliche and admit there was Russian Interference?)

You always side step the main points in favor of going full retard.

You failed to mention Bernie Sanders, Libya, Sirya, Egypt. Half a million people died in Syria alone. None of that was republican led, but just like when the shoe is on the other foot, its always sanctioned by the other side in back room deals.

I seriously can not believe how entangled you are with the elites. What are they offering you thats so good?

Botten
09-09-2023, 06:44 PM
Trump was suppose to get rid of the swamp remember only he was the swamp and blamed all his personal appointee's as the swamp too :rolleyes:

Trump’s followers who attacked the Capitol in an attempt to stop Congress’s certification of the election can be seen as ‘levying war.’

The false electors and those part of the scheme definitely need some punishment.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 06:57 PM
Trump was suppose to get rid of the swamp remember only he was the swamp and blamed all his personal appointee's as the swamp too :rolleyes:

Trump’s followers who attacked the Capitol in an attempt to stop Congress’s certification of the election can be seen as ‘levying war.’

The false electors and those part of the scheme definitely need some punishment.

You think the swamp will go down easy? How could they when people like you continue to support them.

Again, what are the "elites" giving you that keeps you so beholden to them.

BTW, when a violent mob trashed federal buildings for 90 days straight in Portland and other liberal cities, there were no repercussions. When violent mobs burned down and destroyed hundreds of millions of dollars worth of personal property in the name of GF, nothing happened. When violent mobs stormed police stations, took over several city blocks in seattle, nothing happened except calling it a "Summer of Love".

to me its ironic that Jan 6th protesters are being held to an unbelievably high standard compared to basically any other leftist group.

We all know the reason, the elites know who their useful idiots are.

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 07:01 PM
If you want absolute nonsense you don't need to look no further than your fellow brainwash GOP (Topgun) writing your over ignorant manifesto for you.

(LoL @ GOP mouth pieces Ron Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK; Epstein in Barr's care, Arab issues from Bushx2 Iraq wars, ignoring the fact that Trump wore a mask & took the Vax, Petroleum companies studies proving climate change or the illusion Trump didn't want to nuke North Korea or start a war with Iran (but thankfully wussed out).

Cowardly Bunker boy Trump was a pretty failure of a king.

(You really can't get off that Fox cliche and admit there was Russian Interference?)

lawl Global Warming

Total Hoax Propaganda. Pure nonsense.

Only the dumbest people ever believe in that fear porn

and lol goalposts. Russia Collusion is a total hoax. Proven 100%

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 07:02 PM
Trump was suppose to get rid of the swamp remember only he was the swamp and blamed all his personal appointee's as the swamp too :rolleyes:

Trump’s followers who attacked the Capitol in an attempt to stop Congress’s certification of the election can be seen as ‘levying war.’

The false electors and those part of the scheme definitely need some punishment.

Lol yeah he was the swamp having never been in politics until he decided to run with all the forethought of a fraternity dare.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 07:06 PM
Lol so is your point that there can be no bad charges, judgements or verdicts?

Hint: I haven't been arguing this whole time that nobody got charged or convicted of anything, but rather the quality of those charges and convictions is suspect.

To clarify, you're riding for the Proud Boys with the overly long sentences thing?

They were acting in concert with the Oath Keepers and their QRF. Same charge, same conviction.

If you have a contingency army you're in rebellion already from the POV of your country.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 07:08 PM
To clarify, you're riding for the Proud Boys with the overly long sentences thing?

They were acting in concert with the Oath Keepers and their QRF. Same charge, same conviction.

If you have a contingency army you're in rebellion already from the POV of your country.

In other words. If you disagree and dont follow us lockstep, we will put you in jail.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 07:13 PM
In other words. If you disagree and dont follow us lockstep, we will put you in jail.

What do you think a QRF is?

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 07:13 PM
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aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 07:15 PM
You think the swamp will go down easy? How could they when people like you continue to support them.

Again, what are the "elites" giving you that keeps you so beholden to them.


We all know the reason, the elites know who their useful idiots are.

If he didn't defeat The Swamp/Deep State the first time, why did he do this?

https://i.imgur.com/mk51hOj.png

Botten
09-09-2023, 07:15 PM
You always side step the main points in favor of going full retard.

-Trump cowardly parroted Putin only to agree later with our CIA,

-he wussed out when Iran caused brain damage to our troops (probably a good thing),

-Trump ran to his bunker at the slightest trouble,

-had US citizens teargassed for a photo op,

-told American's to inject bleach,

-simped for Hydroxychloroquine for profit,

-tried to purchase CureVac working on the vax for person profit,

-simped for Goya,

-discussed nuking hurricanes,

-insulted a purple heart family of fallen soldier (Capt. Humayun Khan),

-insulted McCain,

-called Sen. Richard Blumenthal "a phony Vietnam con artist",

-told widow of Sgt. La David Johnson "knew what he had signed up for,"

-Said Seth Moulton, who served as a marine in Iraq, "You remain a frickin' coward,"

-Bill Taylor, the US's chief envoy to Ukraine and Alexander Vindman, a Purple Heart recipient were call "Never Trumpers." Trump went on to say "Never Trumpers" were "human scum."

-canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018 and staff over heard him say, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

-Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

The list goes on and on bud...

Oh and the Arab Spring caused from Bushx2 Iraq war caused the unrest there. Thanks GOP!


I seriously can not believe how entangled you are with the elites. What are they offering you thats so good?

Like Trump?

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 07:17 PM
If he didn't defeat The Swamp/Deep State the first time, why did he do this?

https://i.imgur.com/mk51hOj.png

You think the swamp can be defeated? Draining the swamp will take many many decades.

Botten
09-09-2023, 07:17 PM
<parroting Fox Collusion Cliche>

Poor EZ say it... Russian Interference

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 07:18 PM
You think the swamp can be defeated? Draining the swamp will take many many decades.

Why the hat, then? If America was Great and had the Deep State, the latter was also Great.

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 07:21 PM
Poor EZ say it... Russian Interference

lawl goal posts

Your failure is complete

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 07:39 PM
-Trump cowardly parroted Putin only to agree later with our CIA, false

-he wussed out when Iran caused brain damage to our troops (probably a good thing), false

-Trump ran to his bunker at the slightest trouble, no context and false

-had US citizens teargassed for a photo op, An independent investigation by the inspector general of the Interior Department has concluded it wasn’t true.

-told American's to inject bleach, false, he was talking to a medical professional about the upsides of certain disinfectants in the blood that kill covid

-simped for Hydroxychloroquine for profit, ya because $2.00 per tablet is going to make someone a billionaire

-tried to purchase CureVac working on the vax for person profit, dont know the context of this, but nothing is wrong here. hes trying to read where the market is going and make money off of it.

-simped for Goya, conjecture. doesnt matter either way because it did no damage

-discussed nuking hurricanes, so what?

-insulted a purple heart family of fallen soldier (Capt. Humayun Khan), they talked shit on him, Trumps a fighter, not a pussy like most of our elected leaders

-insulted McCain, Trump said mean things. He called Rosie a Pig. So what?

-called Sen. Richard Blumenthal "a phony Vietnam con artist", again Trump said mean thins and hurt someones feelings.

-told widow of Sgt. La David Johnson "knew what he had signed up for," I dont see how this is bad, nor how this is untrue.

-Said Seth Moulton, who served as a marine in Iraq, "You remain a frickin' coward," Again, Trump said mean things.

-Bill Taylor, the US's chief envoy to Ukraine and Alexander Vindman, a Purple Heart recipient were call "Never Trumpers." Trump went on to say "Never Trumpers" were "human scum." Trump said mean things, boo hoo hoo

-canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018 and staff over heard him say, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” hearsay. again even if its true, its just a mean thing. dont be a snowflake

-Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed. hearsay

The list goes on and on bud...

Oh and the Arab Spring caused from Bushx2 Iraq war caused the unrest there. Thanks GOP!



Like Trump?

Trexller
09-09-2023, 07:40 PM
What do you think a QRF is?

in benghazi, it was 2 delta guys that had to get their own transportation from tripoli and bring their own gear, after hilary's state dept denied sending an actual Quick Reaction Force to assist the US ambassador who was burned alive in his home, and the CIA station that was under attack by hundreds of heavily armed hadjis

Trexller
09-09-2023, 07:48 PM
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Botten
09-09-2023, 07:55 PM
lawl goal posts

Your failure is complete

Robert Mueller testifies before Congress on July 24, “We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term.”

EZ desperately clings to a Foxnew Cliche.

Poor EZ

Botten
09-09-2023, 07:58 PM
<answers in complete denial>

Topgun says nuh uh and thinks it is cool when a president insults someone who serves our country.

You kinda just threw out a slew of GOP values there. Brainwashed much? :D

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 08:00 PM
Topgun says nuh uh and thinks it is cool when a president insults someone who serves our country.

Brainwashed much? :D

First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Sorry these words bother you.

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:01 PM
First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Sorry these words bother you.

Sorry you have half ass GOP values toward vets.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 08:03 PM
Sorry you have half ass GOP values toward vets.

Do you think that just because someone served in the military that it makes them immune from criticism?

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:05 PM
Do you think that just because someone served in the military that it makes them immune from criticism?

I do think they deserve respect.

Sorry you don't.

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:08 PM
Judge Says Trump Must Pay $2 Million Over Misuse Of Foundation Funds - The case is tied to a televised fundraiser for veterans held by Trump in Iowa when he was running for president in January 2016. (https://www.npr.org/2019/11/07/777287610/judge-says-trump-must-pay-2-million-over-misuse-of-foundation-funds)

Tell me Topgun how proud are you with an avatar of a man that disrespect our veterans?

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 08:08 PM
I do think they deserve respect.

Sorry you don't.

Do you think its possible to respect someone for one action they did, while at the same time disrespect them for a different action? Or does your mind only think in terms of Orange Man bad?

Trexller
09-09-2023, 08:15 PM
Tell me Topgun how proud are you with an avatar of a man that disrespect our veterans?

Botten read it online in a liberal news rag, so it must be true.

Did Trump call US war dead “losers” and “suckers”? The controversy, explained. (https://www.vox.com/2020/9/4/21422733/atlantic-trump-military-suckers-losers-explained)

It’s the word of reporters relaying what unnamed people are saying against the word of untrustworthy people being open about where they stand.

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:17 PM
Do you think its possible to respect someone for one action they did, while at the same time disrespect them for a different action? Or does your mind only think in terms of Orange Man bad?

Thanks for being proof positive example of a brainwashed Trumper.

PRogers
09-09-2023, 08:17 PM
Do you think its possible to respect someone for one action they did, while at the same time disrespect them for a different action? Or does your mind only think in terms of Orange Man bad?


He's saying he hates the sin but he loves the sinner.

Its ok when you're rich and white. If a muslim STOLE from veterans by using a fake charity while running for president, you'd have made t-shirts by now.

Its so obvious you can forgive anything from the dear leader. The cult is strong in this one.

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 08:19 PM
Robert Mueller testifies before Congress on July 24, “We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term.”

EZ desperately clings to a Foxnew Cliche.

Poor EZ

You're not even trying to claim Russia Collusion anymore

lawl your failure is complete

PRogers
09-09-2023, 08:21 PM
Claim? It happened. Like saying the sun didnt come up yesterday.

Only an actual retarded person, or someone in a coma, could deny that reality.

Next they are gonna say kushner didnt shake down the middle east either.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 08:21 PM
Thanks for being proof positive example of a brainwashed Trumper.

You always refuse to answer questions.

I responded to your laundry list of lies, point by point. All you do is side step and change the subject.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 08:23 PM
Claim? It happened. Like saying the sun didnt come up yesterday.

Only an actual retarded person, or someone in a coma, could deny that reality.

Next they are gonna say kushner didnt shake down the middle east either.

Mueller spent $32 million of taxpayer dollars and came up empty handed

that's how you define a loser

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 08:23 PM
Claim? It happened. Like saying the sun didnt come up yesterday.

Only an actual retarded person, or someone in a coma, could deny that reality.

Next they are gonna say kushner didnt shake down the middle east either.

lol alt account didn't get the memo

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 08:24 PM
Claim? It happened. Like saying the sun didnt come up yesterday.

Only an actual retarded person, or someone in a coma, could deny that reality.

Next they are gonna say kushner didnt shake down the middle east either.

ya Trump was so much in Putins hand that he decided to invade Crimea before Trump took office, invaded Ukraine after Trump was in office, but decided to just do absolutely nothing while Trump was in office.

Serious question here, do you only get your information from TYT?

Ooloo
09-09-2023, 08:24 PM
To clarify, you're riding for the Proud Boys with the overly long sentences thing?

They were acting in concert with the Oath Keepers and their QRF. Same charge, same conviction.

If you have a contingency army you're in rebellion already from the POV of your country.

Haha yeah I understand what they were convicted of, I'm questioning the quality of the convictions and sentencing.

I keep posting "I think these sentences are egregious" and you keep posting "well they got charged with those things" as a response.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 08:25 PM
You always refuse to answer questions.

I responded to your laundry list of lies, point by point. All you do is side step and change the subject.

without strawman arguments, hearsay, and the opinions of a man suffering from acute trump derangement syndrome, he has literally nothing to talk about

side-stepping whataboutism is the only thing the democrat groupies have to mentally justify their political position to themselves

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:28 PM
Botten read it online in a liberal news rag, so it must be true.

Did Trump call US war dead “losers” and “suckers”? The controversy, explained. (https://www.vox.com/2020/9/4/21422733/atlantic-trump-military-suckers-losers-explained)


https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/09/04/trump-says-claims-he-insulted-fallen-troops-hoax-trashes-john-kelly-possible-source.html


Trump said he didn't know for sure if Kelly was a source, but "it could've been a guy like a John Kelly."

"I know John Kelly, he was with me -- didn't do a good job," Trump said in an outburst at the end of a White House news conference mainly on the economy.

"He had no temperament, and ultimately he was petered out. He was exhausted, this man was totally exhausted," Trump continued about the 70-year-old Kelly, a 46-year veteran who began service in the enlisted ranks and earned two Legions of Merit with Combat "V" device.

"He was sort of a tough guy, but in time he got eaten up in this world. It's a different world than he was used to. He was unable to function. And I told him, 'John, you're gonna have to go. Please give me a letter of resignation,'" Trump said.

There was no immediate response to requests for comment from Kelly, who left the White House in January 2019.

At the news conference, Trump repeatedly called the Atlantic story a "hoax," likening it to the allegations against him that led to his impeachment by the House and ultimate acquittal by the Senate.

Several current and former White House aides supported Trump's contention that the story was more "fake news." The Washington Post, The Associated Press and Fox News all report they have confirmed claims made in The Atlantic's reporting.

Citing anonymous sources, the magazine piece alleged that Trump balked at going to the Aisne-Marne cemetery for U.S. troops killed in World War I while on a trip to Paris in 1918.

"Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers," Trump allegedly said.

He also allegedly referred to Marines who fell in the battle of Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.

Trump disputed that and several other claims made in the story on Friday, saying he insisted on visiting the cemetery in France, but the weather and Secret Service personnel prohibited it.

"They had a rainstorm, the likes of which you rarely see," Trump said. "The fog was so great -- it was as dense as I've ever seen. I almost knew that you couldn't use the helicopter. And because they had a drive through I guess certain parts of Paris, Secret Service ... said, 'Nope.'"

Trump, according to The Atlantic, was also reportedly incapable of understanding how troops would be willing to risk their lives without the promise of gaining anything in return more than pride of serving and defending the nation.

On a Memorial Day visit in 2017 to Arlington National Cemetery with Kelly, whose Marine son Robert, a first lieutenant, was killed serving in Afghanistan in 2010, Trump allegedly turned to Kelly before the gravesites and said, "I don't get it. What was in it for them?"

Trump was also reported to have asked to keep wounded warriors out of military parades, according to the magazine, "on the grounds that spectators would feel uncomfortable in the presence of amputees."

"Nobody wants to see that," Trump allegedly said.

Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin tweeted that a source confirmed the claim on Friday, saying the president said including wounded warriors in a parade is "not a good look" and that "Americans don't like that."

Trump also allegedly called the late Sen. John McCain, who spent more than five years facing torture as a prisoner during the Vietnam War, and former President George H.W. Bush, who'd been shot down during World War II, "losers," in The Atlantic report. As a presidential candidate in 2015, Trump famously said that McCain was no war hero, adding, "I like people who weren't captured."

A former senior administration official confirmed to the Washington Post on Thursday that the president "frequently made disparaging comments about veterans and soldiers missing in action, referring to them at times as 'losers.'"

When asked again on Friday about his feelings on McCain, Trump said he "wasn't a fan."

"I disagreed with John McCain on a lot of things," Trump said. "That doesn't mean I don't respect him. I respect him, but I really disagreed with him on a lot of things."

-- Richard Sisk can be reached at richard.sick@military.com.

-- Gina Harkins can be reached at gina.harkins@military.com. Follow her on Twitter @ginaaharkins.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 08:31 PM
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/09/04/trump-says-claims-he-insulted-fallen-troops-hoax-trashes-john-kelly-possible-source.html

Trump allegedly said

jeeezus christ you're stupid

trump fired that guy, and then he came out with bad stories about the bad orange man

nobody ever talks shit on their boss after they get fired, nope. never.

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:31 PM
ya Trump was so much in Putins hand that he decided to invade Crimea before Trump took office, invaded Ukraine after Trump was in office, but decided to just do absolutely nothing while Trump was in office.

Serious question here, do you only get your information from TYT?

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton says 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term (https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trump-to-withdraw-from-nato-in-2nd-term-2022-3)

Your avatar is a picture of a traitor.

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:32 PM
jeeezus christ you're stupid

trump fired that guy, and then he came out with bad stories about the bad orange man

nobody ever talks shit on their boss after they get fired, nope. never.

Nah proof of examples and a General pfft Right!?!!?

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:35 PM
You're not even trying to claim Russia Collusion anymore

lawl your failure is complete

EZ still in denial

Robert Mueller testifies before Congress on July 24, “We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term.”

EZ desperately clings to a Foxnew Cliche.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 08:35 PM
Nah proof of examples and a General pfft Right!?!!?

the article you linked speaks of alleged comments made.

and you consider that to be proof?

fuck generals. they are politicians like any other.

NCOs are why the military actually functions. the brass is useless by the time they pin on their stars.

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:39 PM
...

fuck generals. they are politicians like any other.

NCOs are why the military actually functions. the brass is useless by the time they pin on their stars.

Multiple Generals against Trump don't earn or deserve respect. What GOP values!??!

You are ready my Trumper to treasonously storm the capitol. Go forth!

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 08:40 PM
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton says 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term (https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trump-to-withdraw-from-nato-in-2nd-term-2022-3)

Your avatar is a picture of a traitor.

Funny enough this Avatar picture did get me banned about 3.5 years ago because one of the commie forum lords couldn’t handle it.

I would never ban anyone that had an Avatar that I disagreed with - Stalin, Mao, Putin, hitler. I just don’t operate that way. I’m not a pussy like many of you leftists

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 08:42 PM
Multiple Generals against Trump don't earn or deserve respect. What GOP values!??!

You are ready my Trumper to treasonously storm the capitol. Go forth!

LoL @ your edit

Many military leaders don’t like Trump because he’s anti war. Remember when he said he wanted the killing to stop in Ukraine and the establishment lost its mind?

Trexller
09-09-2023, 08:46 PM
Multiple Generals against Trump don't earn or deserve respect. What GOP values!??!

You are ready my Trumper to treasonously storm the capitol. Go forth!

LoL @ your edit

if you knew anything about the military, you'd know that generals are basically political attachments who exist as a liason between actual service members and congress.

they don't plan operations, they don't manage recruits, they don't work to improve morale, they don't lead from the front, they don't do jack shit for the common soldier.

all a general does is sign papers where his aides tell him to sign, for the best political outcome a washed-up soldier can achieve.

the US hasn't had a "great military leader general" since norman schwarzkopf

so go back to your safe space w/ a pumpkin spice latte while actual real men maintain the freedoms that you hate so much.

this is like reason #4005 for why Botten's wife cheats.

Origen
09-09-2023, 08:47 PM
He wanted to nuke a hurricane, sir

Trexller
09-09-2023, 08:48 PM
He wanted to nuke a hurricane, sir

imagine how fuckin cool that would look

it's really weird how the libtards lost their sense of humor, there used to be really great bush/reagan jokes

edit: you're basically retarded if you believe that the nuke a hurricane comment had any basis in reality.

same w/ injecting bleach.

yeah, you.

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:51 PM
Many military leaders don’t like Trump because he’s anti war. Remember when he said he wanted the killing to stop in Ukraine and the establishment lost its mind?

Yeah that is why his administration killed an Iranian general (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53345885) and was looking to blame another country as an excuse to nuke North Korea? (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-discussed-using-nuclear-weapon-north-korea-2017-blaming-someone-rcna65120)

WASHINGTON — Behind closed doors in 2017, President Donald Trump discussed the idea of using a nuclear weapon against North Korea and suggested he could blame a U.S. strike against the communist regime on another country, according to a new section of a book that details key events of his administration.

Trump's alleged comments, reported for the first time in a new afterword to a book by New York Times Washington correspondent Michael Schmidt, came as tensions between the U.S. and North Korea’s Kim Jong-un escalated, alarming then-White House chief of staff John Kelly.

...

"What scared Kelly even more than the tweets was the fact that behind closed doors in the Oval Office, Trump continued to talk as if he wanted to go to war. He cavalierly discussed the idea of using a nuclear weapon against North Korea, saying that if he took such an action, the administration could blame someone else for it to absolve itself of responsibility," according to the new section of the book.

Kelly tried to use reason to explain to Trump why that would not work, Schmidt continues.

"It’d be tough to not have the finger pointed at us," Kelly told the president, according to the afterword.

Kelly brought the military’s top leaders to the White House to brief Trump about how war between the U.S. and North Korea could easily break out, as well as the enormous consequences of such a conflict. But the argument about how many people could be killed had "no impact on Trump," Schmidt writes.

Oh right you don't believe US Generals ... You must be so proud of that Avatar.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 08:53 PM
ya Trump was so much in Putins hand that he decided to invade Crimea before Trump took office, invaded Ukraine after Trump was in office, but decided to just do absolutely nothing while Trump was in office.

Serious question here, do you only get your information from TYT?

Half the reason Russia is so buttmad is Obama energy sanctions trashing their economy.

Tromp rescinded sanctions on Russia.

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 08:57 PM
Half the reason Russia is so buttmad is Obama energy sanctions trashing their economy.

Tromp rescinded sanctions on Russia.

Sanctions don't do much good when you're 30T+ in debt and want to use pixie dust instead of oil for energy

Botten
09-09-2023, 08:59 PM
if you knew anything about the military, you'd know that generals are basically political attachments who exist as a liason between actual service members and congress.

they don't plan operations, they don't manage recruits, they don't work to improve morale, they don't lead from the front, they don't do jack shit for the common soldier.

all a general does is sign papers where his aides tell him to sign, for the best political outcome a washed-up soldier can achieve.

the US hasn't had a "great military leader general" since norman schwarzkopf

so go back to your safe space w/ a pumpkin spice latte while actual real men maintain the freedoms that you hate so much.

this is like reason #4005 for why Botten's wife cheats.

oh is that the definition of the duties of a General from a US government site?

The official source for information on the roles and responsibilities of U.S. military generals:

Is that sited from the Department of Defense (DoD): The main website for the Department of Defense provides information on defense policies, leadership, news, and resources.

Website: https://www.defense.gov/

Or from

U.S. Army:
Website: https://www.army.mil/

Dissing US military - This is a new low for you bud!

Trexller
09-09-2023, 08:59 PM
Oh right you don't believe US Generals ... You must be so proud of that Avatar.

you yet continue to demonstrate your ignorance of military function and politics.

basically nobody has any respect for generals. anytime they show up anywhere troops are hanging out, the only respect they receive is that which military protocol requires.

every grunt shits on their top brass at every opportunity that they get. American military high command hasn't made a decision in the best interest of the grunt since WWII.

since then, every order given and document signed has served to increase the personal wealth of the high ranking officer.

you talking about the military would be like me talking about alphabet people's rights.

we're never gonna understand.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:01 PM
Half the reason Russia is so buttmad is Obama energy sanctions trashing their economy.

Tromp rescinded sanctions on Russia.

Proofs in the pudding. They did nothing while he was in office. And the sanctions aren’t working now and they weren’t working then. Russia is making new friends and customers that are buying from them and selling to us.

If you remember Obamas mic slip when he promised to dismantle europes middle defense system in favor of Russia. Obama said to wait until his next term in office and he can get it done.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 09:02 PM
oh is that the definition of the duties of a General from a US government site?

The official source for information on the roles and responsibilities of U.S. military generals:

Is that sited from the Department of Defense (DoD): The main website for the Department of Defense provides information on defense policies, leadership, news, and resources.

Website: https://www.defense.gov/

Or from

U.S. Army:
Website: https://www.army.mil/

This is a new low for you bud!

you never served, you wouldn't know.

how is it a low for me? you parrot anything you read online and deride those who disagree with you

you're nothing more than a liberal talking point vending machine who sits in front of a computer, arguing with strangers while his wife takes it from other men.

and it's a low for me, somehow.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:04 PM
you never served, you wouldn't know.

how is it a low for me? you parrot anything you read online and deride those who disagree with you

you're nothing more than a liberal talking point vending machine who sits in front of a computer, arguing with strangers while his wife takes it from other men.

and it's a low for me, somehow.

He’s not worth it man. It’s like the special Olympics. Even when you win, you’re still retarded.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 09:04 PM
Proofs in the pudding. They did nothing while he was in office. And the sanctions aren’t working now and they weren’t working then.

They were. We had them on the absolute ropes before Donny One Scoop relaxed their treatment for cancer.

Ceterum autem censeo Moskva esse delendam.

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:05 PM
you never served, you wouldn't know.

how is it a low for me? you parrot anything you read online and deride those who disagree with you

you're nothing more than a liberal talking point vending machine who sits in front of a computer, arguing with strangers while his wife takes it from other men.

and it's a low for me, somehow.

I don't insult US military but hats off to you for sticking hateful beliefs.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:05 PM
They were. We had them on the absolute ropes before Donny One Scoop relaxed their cancer treatment.

Ceterum autem censeo Moskva esse delandem.

The sanctions are far worse now and they aren’t doing much. They weren’t on the ropes at all. That’s one thing I have learned from this Ukraine debacle, our western media is trying to make it seem like Russia is really suffering, but the reality is far from that.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 09:07 PM
He’s not worth it man. It’s like the special Olympics. Even when you win, you’re still retarded.

oh i know. any engagement with botten is nothing more than a forum game to see how many times i can work into the posts that his wife cucks him because candy-ass men like him don't get women juicy.

Origen
09-09-2023, 09:08 PM
Yeah, unlike the macho Project 1999 forums poster :cool:

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:08 PM
He’s not worth it man. It’s like the special Olympics. Even when you win, you’re still retarded.

Terms like that ... Oof...what is your feelings on aspergers? Try not to be too insulting to Trexller.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 09:09 PM
The sanctions are far worse now and they aren’t doing much. They weren’t on the ropes at all. That’s one thing I have learned from this Ukraine debacle, our western media is trying to make it seem like Russia is really suffering, but the reality is far from that.

Ok well do you think they did nothing in his term because they feared him, even though he did things to help them?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/037/158/thinkmarkthumbnail.PNG

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:10 PM
In fact Putin is able to get rid of old military technology and have a reason to build up his military even more. His troops are getting training, and so far they have gained a fair amount of territory.

I’m not happy about that either. I think Putin is extremely selfish for doing what he did, but that’s what happens when you have a political system that demonizes and imprisons its political opponents - you don’t end up with any one talking you out of an idiotic idea. And that’s exactly what democrats and establishments republicans are doing to trump, trying to imprison him for bullshit charges that to this day haven’t held water.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 09:11 PM
The sanctions are far worse now and they aren’t doing much. They weren’t on the ropes at all. That’s one thing I have learned from this Ukraine debacle, our western media is trying to make it seem like Russia is really suffering, but the reality is far from that.

yeah the western sanctions don't really do too much when china, iran, brazil, india and many more nations will still do business for russia

and they are getting crazy discounts on oil, like 20 less per barrel than the real world pays.

russian oligarchs don't give a shit if their yachts and overseas assets are seized or frozen, this is a small fraction of what is basically play money.

these people have plenty of assets in other parts of the world, and russia is a big enough country to function without global access.

western people have forgotten that it's possible to live without a smartphone built into your refrigerator

they're so fuckin soft in the west that people are like, "GAP, Mcdonalds and starbucks won't do business in russia, that means russia is a dying economy"

Origen
09-09-2023, 09:11 PM
Yeah all of those communist billionaires are probably using mind control rays on Fani Willis

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:12 PM
The sanctions are far worse now and they aren’t doing much. They weren’t on the ropes at all. That’s one thing I have learned from this Ukraine debacle, our western media is trying to make it seem like Russia is really suffering, but the reality is far from that.

yeah you couldn't be more wrong.

23011

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 09:12 PM
yeah the western sanctions don't really do too much when china, iran, brazil, india and many more nations will still do business for russia

and they are getting crazy discounts on oil, like 20 less per barrel than the real world pays.

russian oligarchs don't give a shit if their yachts and overseas assets are seized or frozen, this is a small fraction of what is basically play money.

these people have plenty of assets in other parts of the world, and russia is a big enough country to function without global access.

western people have forgotten that it's possible to live without a smartphone built into your refrigerator

they're so fuckin soft in the west that people are like, "GAP, Mcdonalds and starbucks won't do business in russia, that means russia is a dying economy"

Every economy is a dying economy without institutional investment.

send post

Origen
09-09-2023, 09:13 PM
western people have forgotten that it's possible to live without a smartphone built into your refrigerator

they're so fuckin soft in the west that people are like, "GAP, Mcdonalds and starbucks won't do business in russia, that means russia is a dying economy"Hehe, unlike Trexller, forums hardass, posting at nine o clock on saturday night here with his everquest buddies

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 09:14 PM
In fact Putin is able to get rid of old military technology and have a reason to build up his military even more. His troops are getting training, and so far they have gained a fair amount of territory.

I’m not happy about that either. I think Putin is extremely selfish for doing what he did, but that’s what happens when you have a political system that demonizes and imprisons its political opponents - you don’t end up with any one talking you out of an idiotic idea. And that’s exactly what democrats and establishments republicans are doing to trump, trying to imprison him for bullshit charges that to this day haven’t held water.

Hey if we have to fairly adjudicate every asylum case we have to do the same for Mr Tromp's "obvious crimes". Let's gooooo freedom!!

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:14 PM
Ok well do you think they did nothing in his term because they feared him, even though he did things to help them?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/037/158/thinkmarkthumbnail.PNG

It’s just posturing and with trump it seems to work. So for instance, he tells NK that he’s going to blow them to the fucking moon and then a couple months later he’s shaking hands with Kim Jung Rocket Man.

With Russia, I think that they deeply respected Trump and didn’t want to get on his bad side, because Trump is very unpredictable.

Trump is extremely good at negotiating from a position of power and getting his adversaries to come to the table on terms that Trump wants.

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:16 PM
It’s just posturing and with trump it seems to work. So for instance, he tells NK that he’s going to blow them to the fucking moon and then a couple months later he’s shaking hands with Kim Jung Rocket Man.

With Russia, I think that they deeply respected Trump and didn’t want to get on his bad side, because Trump is very unpredictable.

Trump is extremely good at negotiating from a position of power and getting his adversaries to come to the table on terms that Trump wants.

You are hilarious. Spoken like a true brainwashed Trumper.

Putin and Assad caught on video mocking Trump (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/putin-assad-trump-syria-russia-video-joke-mock-road-damascus-a9284466.html)



(. for Trexller)

Trexller
09-09-2023, 09:17 PM
yeah you couldn't be more wrong.

23011

you fail to understand that the russian federation's economy is a planned and ordered function of less than 100 people.

whatever shortcomings need to be addressed are easily done so by shifting assets

TGB is right, every piece of ancient soviet-era tech that is destroyed in ukraine is a reason to tell their citizens that they need to sacrifice to build more modern stuff.

The western world looks at russia and sees white people and thinks that their motivations would be the same, this is patently false. The russian people may as well be a different race. They do not view history the same way we do, they do not hold the same values that we do, their outlook and opinion of the modern world is vastly different from what we know reality to be.

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:20 PM
you fail to understand that the russian federation's economy is a planned and ordered function of less than 100 people.

whatever shortcomings need to be addressed are easily done so by shifting assets

TGB is right, every piece of ancient soviet-era tech that is destroyed in ukraine is a reason to tell their citizens that they need to sacrifice to build more modern stuff.


O'RLY?

Russia having difficulty making new weapons, but might have enough older ones, report says (https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/europe/russia-weapons-production-report-intl-hnk-ml/index.html)

Oh right you don't like CNN here... Foxnews

Putin admits Russia lacks drones, other weapons in war against Ukraine (https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-admits-russia-lacks-drones-weapons-war-ukraine)

Try harder!

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:20 PM
You are hilarious. Spoken like a true brainwashed Trumper.

Putin and Assad caught on video mocking Trump (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/putin-assad-trump-syria-russia-video-joke-mock-road-damascus-a9284466.html)



(. for Trexller)

Please explain to me why Putin decided to invade crimea and Ukraine under the 2 weakest pussy presidents this country has ever known, yet did absolutely nothing under Trumps 4 years.

You know the answer. You just won’t admit it.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 09:22 PM
It’s just posturing and with trump it seems to work. So for instance, he tells NK that he’s going to blow them to the fucking moon and then a couple months later he’s shaking hands with Kim Jung Rocket Man.

With Russia, I think that they deeply respected Trump and didn’t want to get on his bad side, because Trump is very unpredictable.

Trump is extremely good at negotiating from a position of power and getting his adversaries to come to the table on terms that Trump wants.

If that's true what can we take away from Libs helping promulgate this latter day 'Madman Theory' reputation?

https://media.tenor.com/arhN0ffG9NgAAAAC/futurama-nixon.gif

Trexller
09-09-2023, 09:22 PM
Economic sanctions against a country as large and resource rich as russia cannot amount to more than finger-wagging from coward politicians

z7yofon22AM

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:24 PM
Please explain to me why Putin decided to invade crimea and Ukraine under the 2 weakest pussy presidents this country has ever known, yet did absolutely nothing under Trumps 4 years.

You know the answer. You just won’t admit it.

All ready did..

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3643186&postcount=6096

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton says 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term (https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trump-to-withdraw-from-nato-in-2nd-term-2022-3)

Trump had to get us out of NATO.

Try to keep up.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 09:24 PM
O'RLY?

Russia having difficulty making new weapons, but might have enough older ones, report says (https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/europe/russia-weapons-production-report-intl-hnk-ml/index.html)

Oh right you don't like CNN here... Foxnews

Putin admits Russia lacks drones, other weapons in war against Ukraine (https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-admits-russia-lacks-drones-weapons-war-ukraine)

Try harder!

i don't need to try harder when everything you post demonstrates your pathetic ignorance of how geo-politics and modern warfare actually works.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:28 PM
If that's true what can we take away from Libs helping promulgate this latter day 'Madman Theory' reputation?

https://media.tenor.com/arhN0ffG9NgAAAAC/futurama-nixon.gif

Trump is a madman in a sense. I’m not saying I like him personally. He just has decent instincts and is extremely genuine. He’s calling out the bullshit that everyone else seems content to sweep under the rug.

The guy isn’t getting rich off being the president. In fact I think he’s the only president to leave office with less money than when he started. He’s not doing it for the likes, everyone can agree on that. I think he’s doing it because he likes the challenge, he sees a soloution to the problems and his ego is so huge that it pushes him forward.

Origen
09-09-2023, 09:29 PM
Trump is a madman in a sense. I’m not saying I like him personally. He just has decent instincts and is extremely genuine. He’s calling out the bullshit that everyone else seems content to sweep under the rug.

The guy isn’t getting rich off being the president. In fact I think he’s the only president to leave office with less money than when he started. He’s not doing it for the likes, everyone can agree on that. I think he’s doing it because he likes the challenge, he sees a soloution to the problems and his ego is so huge that it pushes him forward.Would you suck his dick if he asked u to? Just curious

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:32 PM
All ready did..

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3643186&postcount=6096

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton says 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term (https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trump-to-withdraw-from-nato-in-2nd-term-2022-3)

Trump had to get us out of NATO.

Try to keep up.

Trump was threatening NATO because they had been sucking off America’s military tit for too long. Trump effectively through these threats forced NATO into paying their fair share.

With Trump you may not like what he said or how he said it, but he gets results.

The Trump years were absolutely amazing, economy was booming and inflation was non existent until the establishment had to step in and squash the populace by halting the economy due to some bullshit virus that they also refuse to admit was made in a lab in wuhan.

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:33 PM
Economic sanctions against a country as large and resource rich as russia cannot amount to more than finger-wagging from coward politicians

z7yofon22AM

Time Stamps in the video
0:27: Despite EU sanctions, Western goods are making their way into Russia through the Georgian border by car.
4:56: 📰 Georgia's neighbors have seen a significant increase in imports from Russia, leading to concerns about the country's direction and potential involvement in conflicts.
9:34: 🚗 The video explores how new cars are being smuggled from Georgia to Russia to bypass sanctions.

Oof ....your video was from Jul 5, 2023

Your video hinges on this... but...

Georgia's Finance Ministry on August 2nd of 2023 said the exporting and reexporting of U.S. cars to Russia and Belarus was banned as of August 1. The same decision regarding cars exported from the European Union took effect on July 26. The ministry said the decision was made as part of the 11th package of sanctions against Russia linked to its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. According to the ministry, from January to July some 51,000 cars worth $930 million were reexported from Georgia, including 3,786 units to Russia worth an estimated $52 million. To read the original story by RFE/RL's Russian Service

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:36 PM
Time Stamps in the video
0:27: Despite EU sanctions, Western goods are making their way into Russia through the Georgian border by car.
4:56: 📰 Georgia's neighbors have seen a significant increase in imports from Russia, leading to concerns about the country's direction and potential involvement in conflicts.
9:34: 🚗 The video explores how new cars are being smuggled from Georgia to Russia to bypass sanctions.

Oof ....your video was from Jul 5, 2023

Your video hinges on this... but...

Ya for sure because what a political leader said can be trusted.

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:37 PM
Trump was threatening NATO because they had been sucking off America’s military tit for too long. Trump effectively through these threats forced NATO into paying their fair share.

With Trump you may not like what he said or how he said it, but he gets results.

The Trump years were absolutely amazing, economy was booming and inflation was non existent until the establishment had to step in and squash the populace by halting the economy due to some bullshit virus that they also refuse to admit was made in a lab in wuhan.

Right... Because Trump's United States National Security Advisor, John Bolton saying 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term wasn't a factor.

Your avatar is a picture of Traitor.

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:37 PM
Ya for sure because what a political leader said can be trusted.

Sorry the research was debunked.

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:39 PM
i don't need to try harder when everything you post demonstrates your pathetic ignorance of how geo-politics and modern warfare actually works.

Now who is blindly following?

I am done you have shown you are brainwash Trumpers.

And the values of the GOP go out the window when considering Trump.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 09:43 PM
Sorry the research was debunked.

They arent working. Russia has had some form of sanctions put against them for an extremely long time, like multiple decades.

Even my extremely liberal economics teacher back when I was in college said that sanctions dont work, because the country being sanctioned will just sell and buy their goods and services through a 3rd party country.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/06/india-importing-russian-oil-is-win-win-for-global-economy-says-ongc.html

Im not happy about this. I wish there could be peace, but I am not going to act like something is working when its not. Russia has massive resources, and a large enough economy and enough trade partners that they really arent without options.

The only way this war stops is if Putin dies.

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 09:44 PM
John Bolton ...

lol

Botten
09-09-2023, 09:47 PM
They arent working. Russia has had some form of sanctions put against them for an extremely long time, like multiple decades.

Even my extremely liberal economics teacher back when I was in college said that sanctions dont work, because the country being sanctioned will just sell and buy their goods and services through a 3rd party country.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/06/india-importing-russian-oil-is-win-win-for-global-economy-says-ongc.html

Im not happy about this. I wish there could be peace, but I am not going to act like something is working when its not. Russia has massive resources, and a large enough economy and enough trade partners that they really arent without options.

The only way this war stops is if Putin dies.

-.- :rolleyes:

In May, the EU’s chief diplomat Josep Borrell urged the bloc to crack down on India reselling refined Russian oil into Europe.

May to September value of the Ruble...

23012

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 09:57 PM
John Bolton ...

lol

ltGF-sWdLAk

Origen
09-09-2023, 10:02 PM
John Bolton ...

lolReally makes u wonder about the dude that would hire him, huh?

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 10:06 PM
-.- :rolleyes:

In May, the EU’s chief diplomat Josep Borrell urged the bloc to crack down on India reselling refined Russian oil into Europe.

May to September value of the Ruble...

23012

They are still selling record amount of oil to india and china. Russia isnt hurting and this graph really doesnt mean anything either because of course the value of the ruble to the dollar is going to be devalued when you make that trade illegal.

It would be like if there was law passed that all $20 dollar bills were no longer worth $20, but zero. The value of the $20 would be zero simply because it is no longer able to be traded with and isnt legal tender. That only works with money though, because you cant set the value of a real good to zero arbitrarily. Fuel for instance has a lot of intrinsic value, and it cant be arbitrarily devalued.

Additionally, the world is starved for fuel right now. We are heading into winter and its going to get worse, as we are already at $5.00 a gallon. Can you believe that? $5.00 fucking dollars. Russia is going to be just fine because they decided to keep producing oil to send to the EU all these years, while the EU castrated itself into become energy dependent on russia, just so they could look good to their oil hating constituents.. BTW it took germany almost a full year to get off russian oil.

Botten
09-09-2023, 10:18 PM
They are still selling record amount of oil to india and china. Russia isnt hurting and this graph really doesnt mean anything either because of course the value of the ruble to the dollar is going to be devalued when you make that trade illegal.

It would be like if there was law passed that all $20 dollar bills were no longer worth $20, but zero. The value of the $20 would be zero simply because it is no longer able to be traded with and isnt legal tender. That only works with money though, because you cant set the value of a real good to zero arbitrarily. Fuel for instance has a lot of intrinsic value, and it cant be arbitrarily devalued.

Additionally, the world is starved for fuel right now. We are heading into winter and its going to get worse, as we are already at $5.00 a gallon. Can you believe that? $5.00 fucking dollars. Russia is going to be just fine because they decided to keep producing oil to send to the EU all these years, while the EU castrated itself into become energy dependent on russia, just so they could look good to their oil hating constituents.. BTW it took germany almost a full year to get off russian oil.

Go on? :rolleyes:

23014

Trexller
09-09-2023, 10:34 PM
guess we can add economics to the list of things botten has no clue about

right after how to pleasure a woman

Trexller
09-09-2023, 10:59 PM
Here's one topic we haven't beaten to death yet

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham has suspended the 2nd Amendment across Albuquerque and the surrounding Bernalillo County for at least 30 days. Claiming that the constitution is not "absolute"

She has thrown out the constitution under the guise of "a public health emergency"

Now where have we heard that before?

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 10:59 PM
Go on? :rolleyes:

23014

The same devaluation has happened with the Turkish Lira, Swedish Krona, canadian dollar, Chinese Yuan, Indian Rupie, Indonesian Rupiah, Israeli Sheckel and Japanese Yen. Would you somehow say that the sanctions on Russia are causing all of the beforementioned countries to lose value in their currencies value as well?

What I am saying is that if Russia is selling oil to China and India, and China and India are selling goods to us, it doesnt fucking matter what their currency is doing because they are bringing in money nonetheless.

If you really want to know how the russian economy is doing, look at the cost of fuel, and then compare that with russian exports of oil. That is the only metric worth its weight.

Origen
09-09-2023, 11:00 PM
Literally any public health emergency involves some amount of throwing out that dumb old document

Elizondo
09-09-2023, 11:06 PM
Here's one topic we haven't beaten to death yet

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham has suspended the 2nd Amendment across Albuquerque and the surrounding Bernalillo County for at least 30 days. Claiming that the constitution is not "absolute"

She has thrown out the constitution under the guise of "a public health emergency"

Now where have we heard that before?

Covid tactics to steamroll Human Rights

The Democrat Way

Trexller
09-09-2023, 11:08 PM
I'm getting tired of waiting for democrats to start a civil war again.

Lets get this over and done with already, and it won't take 4 years this time. about 4 days should do it.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 11:10 PM
Here's one topic we haven't beaten to death yet

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham has suspended the 2nd Amendment across Albuquerque and the surrounding Bernalillo County for at least 30 days. Claiming that the constitution is not "absolute"

She has thrown out the constitution under the guise of "a public health emergency"

Now where have we heard that before?

This is pathetic. Hopefully she gets impeached. I highly doubt that she will ask her security to disarm themselves though.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 11:12 PM
Here's one topic we haven't beaten to death yet

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham has suspended the 2nd Amendment across Albuquerque and the surrounding Bernalillo County for at least 30 days. Claiming that the constitution is not "absolute"

She has thrown out the constitution under the guise of "a public health emergency"

Now where have we heard that before?

Don't fall for it (https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1700601787605266779?t=PKlDhjJBZ3zAB5uz7KUIxA&s=19)

The idea that a governor can oppress localities in their state is right though. My hometown had a mob scandal in the 70s that meant we didn't have self rule for many years.

Trexller
09-09-2023, 11:13 PM
Don't fall for it (https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1700601787605266779?t=PKlDhjJBZ3zAB5uz7KUIxA&s=19)

these fuckin people need to be put back into their place.

Topgunben
09-09-2023, 11:16 PM
Don't fall for it (https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1700601787605266779?t=PKlDhjJBZ3zAB5uz7KUIxA&s=19)


if this is truly David Hogg and not some Smurf account, I can say that my respect for him has gone up substantially.

aussenseiter
09-09-2023, 11:18 PM
if this is truly David Hogg and not some Smurf account, I can say that my respect for him has gone up substantially.

hey i said not to

Botten
09-10-2023, 12:41 AM
The same devaluation has happened with the Turkish Lira, Swedish Krona, canadian dollar, Chinese Yuan, Indian Rupie, Indonesian Rupiah, Israeli Sheckel and Japanese Yen. Would you somehow say that the sanctions on Russia are causing all of the beforementioned countries to lose value in their currencies value as well?

What I am saying is that if Russia is selling oil to China and India, and China and India are selling goods to us, it doesnt fucking matter what their currency is doing because they are bringing in money nonetheless.

If you really want to know how the russian economy is doing, look at the cost of fuel, and then compare that with russian exports of oil. That is the only metric worth its weight.

According to LSEG data, Russian crude has been trading currently around $67 a barrel at Russian crude terminals.

A U.S. Treasury official said this week the International cap was still effective as it had helped cut Russian revenues.

Russia isn't making anywhere near the profit on oil that it did before the Ukraine war.

Trexller think for yourself don't be a cheerleader you are embarrassing yourself.

Botten
09-10-2023, 01:03 AM
Meh ..

FL,TN,TX and other states have limited the right to assemble.

Tweaking the second amendment shouldn’t be held any higher regard than any other.

You can own all the guns you want, you just aren't allowed to carry them in Public. Why is that bad? Cause you may get robbed by someone with a gun?

People really do not understand the science of escalation and how having a weapon on you all the time is more dangerous than not.

Trexller
09-10-2023, 01:10 AM
According to LSEG data, Russian crude has been trading currently around $67 a barrel at Russian crude terminals.

A U.S. Treasury official said this week the International cap was still effective as it had helped cut Russian revenues.

Russia isn't making anywhere near the profit on oil that it did before the Ukraine war.

Trexller think for yourself don't be a cheerleader you are embarrassing yourself.

im not cheerleading for jack shit, you just don't understand how the russians manage their economy

you keep thinking like a capitalist, you forget that The russian gov't controls the means of production, therefore they control their profit margain

seems like you fail to understand both capitalism and marxism, both of the economic theories upon which the russian economy is founded

aaaagain, you can sanction a resource-rich nation all day long, it doesn't matter. because even if the world stopped buying their oil, they still have all of the resources within their border. This is literally the definition of a world power.

the foundation of all world power is 4 things: population, food, iron and oil. if you have all 4 of these things, then you don't need another country for anything.

yeah, you aren't gonna have a smart phone built into your fridge, but you forget you don't need it.

The Russians don't give a fuck if they have to live like it's 1980, they aren't soft and spoiled like the rest of the western world

Botten
09-10-2023, 01:39 AM
im not cheerleading for jack shit, you just don't understand how the russians manage their economy

you keep thinking like a capitalist, you forget that The russian gov't controls the means of production, therefore they control their profit margain

seems like you fail to understand both capitalism and marxism, both of the economic theories upon which the russian economy is founded

aaaagain, you can sanction a resource-rich nation all day long, it doesn't matter. because even if the world stopped buying their oil, they still have all of the resources within their border. This is literally the definition of a world power.

the foundation of all world power is 4 things: population, food, iron and oil. if you have all 4 of these things, then you don't need another country for anything.

yeah, you aren't gonna have a smart phone built into your fridge, but you forget you don't need it.

The Russians don't give a fuck if they have to live like it's 1980, they aren't soft and spoiled like the rest of the western world

Well then by your standard Russia is screwed.

Population - This from 2022 - Russia’s population nightmare is going to get even worse - The life expectancy of Russian males aged 15 fell by almost five years, to the same level as in Haiti. (https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/03/04/russias-population-nightmare-is-going-to-get-even-worse)

And

Russian Births In 2023 Falling To Levels Comparable To Those At Start Of 19th Century – OpEd (https://www.eurasiareview.com/16082023-russian-births-in-2023-falling-to-levels-comparable-to-those-at-start-of-19th-century-oped/)

food - Despite Russia’s large grain exports, the country is a much larger agricultural importer than exporter (figure 2). In 2013, Russia’s agricultural and food imports totaled $39 billion, versus exports of $14 billion. (https://www.choicesmagazine.org/choices-magazine/submitted-articles/russias-economic-crisis-and-its-agricultural-and-food-economy) Even has a bar graph on how much more they import vs export.

Iron - Russian Mining Industry Falling Into Despair (https://www.e-mj.com/features/russian-mining-industry-falling-into-despair/)
Caterpillar has halted all operations in its Russian manufacturing plants and stopped all deliveries from abroad... companies have ceased exporting spare parts and components. The threat to the Russian mining industry associated with a lack of Western technologies have been acknowledged by government officials.

oil - LSEG data, Russian crude has been trading currently around $67 a barrel at Russian crude terminals.

A U.S. Treasury official said this week the International cap was still effective as it had helped cut Russian revenues.

Russia isn't making anywhere near the profit on oil that it did before the Ukraine war.

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:28 AM
https://i.imgur.com/FyCa1nr.png

Is this shit true?
If so, what an actual fuckhole. Prided (see what happended there?) on by an actual fuckwit.
Rage on ragers.

Topgunben
09-10-2023, 03:35 AM
According to LSEG data, Russian crude has been trading currently around $67 a barrel at Russian crude terminals.

A U.S. Treasury official said this week the International cap was still effective as it had helped cut Russian revenues.

Russia isn't making anywhere near the profit on oil that it did before the Ukraine war.

Trexller think for yourself don't be a cheerleader you are embarrassing yourself.

$67 a barrel isn’t bad all. It’s money in at a time where sanctions are supposedly spanking them.

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:41 AM
He is a grifter.
You fall for it, everytime.
I dont blame you. It is clever marketing.
Make you mad.
You get mad.
Say its unfair on someone who is "cleaning the swamp" he fails and he says "swamp is deeper than we thought".
IT'S NOT MY FAULT! SEE, CAPSLOCK PROVES IT'S TRUE.

I'm being indicted for you! Send moneys. Hint: Billionaires DON'T NEED YOUR MONEY, THEY WANT IT.

At least Bozos and Muskrat hide their grift behind an actual product.
You allow tRump to ride roughshod all over you. And yell his praise.

Congratulations, I think.

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:44 AM
Also. As an Aussie, is ranking 40 sumfing bad in the U S and A statewise? We gots 6 state sand 2 territories.

40 sumfing sounds lebadz.

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:46 AM
Na, it's lebadz.

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:47 AM
Sanctions were good when tRump didem. Remember? I guess not.

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:48 AM
Fucking pentuple post. EXTRA LE MADZ ZEZZ

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:49 AM
Sextuple. Just cuz sex...

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:54 AM
Also tRump assuaults women and you OK wiff dis.
Cheats on wifey and still nuffin? OK. Shows you.

Explains why he thort he could dismiss a storm(y Daniels) wiff a black marker. Lolocaust.

Keep on keeping on, Fuckers.

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:54 AM
Its September, so Septuple it is...

Duik
09-10-2023, 03:55 AM
Im fucking hilarious.

aussenseiter
09-10-2023, 04:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/FyCa1nr.png

Is this shit true?
If so, what an actual fuckhole. Prided (see what happended there?) on by an actual fuckwit.
Rage on ragers.

https://i.imgur.com/d60sPZv.png

Duik
09-10-2023, 04:37 AM
I said. IS THIS TRUE! MOTHER FUCKER. QUESTION. YA KNOW THEM? ALSO. STATS CAN PROVE ANYTHING. JUST LIKE MINE.

ALL CAPS SO TRUMP TRUE!#!!

Duik
09-10-2023, 04:39 AM
Also. I extoll the virtues of children being explited for profit.
This is truth. Published. Refute or not.

Goooo.

aussenseiter
09-10-2023, 04:39 AM
I said. IS THIS TRUE! MOTHER FUCKER. QUESTION. YA KNOW THEM? ALSO. STATS CAN PROVE ANYTHING. JUST LIKE MINE.

ALL CAPS SO TRUMP TRUE!#!!

Crime is quantifiable, the others are math and opinion.

Duik
09-10-2023, 04:51 AM
Sanders will.
Hasent done so yet.
You still fall for promises? L M F A O.

YOU ADMIT THAT GUBBAMENT LIES. YET STILL BELIEVE LUES FROM GUBBAMENT?

AGAIN. lmfao.

Have at it. Idiots. Ya kids are tools, not for you. For corporate Hamerica. Haha. We laugh at you

aussenseiter
09-10-2023, 05:04 AM
Sanders will.
Hasent done so yet.
You still fall for promises? L M F A O.

YOU ADMIT THAT GUBBAMENT LIES. YET STILL BELIEVE LUES FROM GUBBAMENT?

AGAIN. lmfao.

Have at it. Idiots. Ya kids are tools, not for you. For corporate Hamerica. Haha. We laugh at you

Stop laughing or no upside downy swimmy digieridoos, mate. (https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2023/09/05/aukus-standoff-australia-uk-wait-on-congress-to-approve-pact/)

magnetaress
09-10-2023, 08:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/d60sPZv.png

This is a failure of the communities to purge the wicked extralegally. :o

Arkansass (i can't spell it) relies too heavily on the federal government and a corrupt failed local state government to police itself !

<3 :o

Ooloo
09-10-2023, 06:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/FyCa1nr.png

Is this shit true?
If so, what an actual fuckhole. Prided (see what happended there?) on by an actual fuckwit.
Rage on ragers.

Your first questions should be: How are those things being measured? What is the methodology?

Comparing entire states when it comes to raising a family is inherently retarded because you generally don't raise a family in an entire state. You usually raise them in specific cities or towns. Another reason why local politics > state politics > national politics (and also why the electoral college exists and is necessary).

aussenseiter
09-10-2023, 09:31 PM
Your first questions should be: How are those things being measured? What is the methodology?

Comparing entire states when it comes to raising a family is inherently retarded because you generally don't raise a family in an entire state. You usually raise them in specific cities or towns. Another reason why local politics > state politics > national politics (and also why the electoral college exists and is necessary).

But they're 43rd in infrastructure! I don't know what that means or why it's a good metric but I sure do feel superior to those hicks. 🤪

Topgunben
09-10-2023, 09:42 PM
But they're 43rd in infrastructure! I don't know what that means or why it's a good metric but I sure do feel superior to those hicks. 🤪

It’s kind of like when democrats complain about how America has so much gun violence, but once you remove 5 democrat run cities from that count, our status in the world makes us look extremely safe.

magnetaress
09-10-2023, 10:52 PM
This is how u start ww3.5

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/09/politics/us-oil-iran-china-doj/index.html

Not that I'm worried about it starting mind you...just that this is the way!

America 🇺🇸 🇺🇲 America 🇺🇸😶😌🙃😲

aussenseiter
09-10-2023, 11:07 PM
This is how u start ww3.5

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/09/politics/us-oil-iran-china-doj/index.html

Not that I'm worried about it starting mind you...just that this is the way!

America ���� ���� America ������������

I googled it. SA makes 12 million barrels per day and Iran makes 4 million barrels per day. We make 20 million per day.

Is that helpful?

magnetaress
09-10-2023, 11:24 PM
I googled it. SA makes 12 million barrels per day and Iran makes 4 million barrels per day. We make 20 million per day.

Is that helpful?

Yeah butt we are now using the military to "police" global trade.

Slippery slope.

How many barrels of oil did it take to drive Japan to war? I'm no historian butt it wasn't an insignificant amount.


Why are we putting pressure on China lol?

Also Iran?

Ugh 🥱🤭

Like how much money did we just waste swinging our dicks at Iranian smugglers who probably would have bought xbox's full of feminist Propoganda games with their tiny 1% of the oil trade. And it's worth putting civilians, Chinese and Iranians lives at risk a like? U.s. soldiers?

Like I'm not buying CNNs subtext that these where even remotely related to died in the wool hardcore terrorists. A good chance someone's cousin is.

This is how you isolate and segregate ppl in order to control them. The US gov does this many times over at smol irders of magnitude that at scale are quite impactful for the honest man just trying to sell some oil to some Chinese freezing in a detention center.

magnetaress
09-10-2023, 11:29 PM
Also I initially meant it was the beginning

Of

The way.

As in the way.

The road our elites in control want us all to walk down.

Not that we are quite there yet.

Butt, on The Way

aussenseiter
09-10-2023, 11:32 PM
Butt, on The Way

https://i.imgur.com/iptRBl5.png

Botten
09-11-2023, 01:44 AM
It’s kind of like when democrats complain about how America has so much gun violence, but once you remove 5 democrat run cities from that count, our status in the world makes us look extremely safe.

Keep up with your kinfolk brainwashing.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

23018

magnetaress
09-11-2023, 10:06 AM
https://i.imgur.com/iptRBl5.png

OF COURSE! (i don't think the gubbament is going that way doH!)

magnetaress
09-11-2023, 10:07 AM
Keep up with your kinfolk brainwashing.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

23018

The average of the blue bars is much higher than the average of the red bars !!!! :eek: :o

magnetaress
09-11-2023, 10:08 AM
Fort worth makes a lot of sense to because a lot of extra legals are getting dumbed (dumpted*) into there by democrats lol

it's a real pity and shame that they have to suffer and die in this country instead of at home in their own country where they could have made a real difference with the right training and aid ! ! !

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 10:32 AM
Keep up with your kinfolk brainwashing.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23018&thumb=1&d=1694411298

What's this show?

Botten
09-11-2023, 11:17 AM
Summary? TDRL for Top?

Red pew pew gun issues is just as bad

To many guns in ’Merica

Clarar
09-11-2023, 12:35 PM
Hello everyone
This momentous development will have far-reaching effects. It emphasizes the value of having an equitable and impartial legal system, regardless of one's class or position.Free Fire name (https://ffstylishname.com)

Elizondo
09-11-2023, 02:25 PM
We need a lot more guns in this country and every family needs to be armed and ready to take out the trash

Soon Dem voters will grow tired of flash mobbing and robbing retail stores and turn to private homes

PRogers
09-11-2023, 02:33 PM
Mueller spent $32 million of taxpayer dollars and came up empty handed

that's how you define a loser

Made 47 million in recovered assets and money.
Thats a 15 million dollar profit.

Since you care SO much about government spending, how about spending more money than any administration in human history??? Bet you cant guess who did that. You see any difference? LOL added TRILLIONS to deficit, you care about spending. LOLOLOL


You gonna cry about chevy next? Say the government didnt make any money loaning them a few billion? I think the US made over 500 million in interest from that loan.

PRogers
09-11-2023, 02:36 PM
jeeezus christ you're stupid

trump fired that guy, and then he came out with bad stories about the bad orange man

nobody ever talks shit on their boss after they get fired, nope. never.

The 26 women who accused him of sexual assault and rape were all lying too, huh?

Remember when he was convicted in court of sexual assault?

Just say it:
If I dont like it, its not real.

PRogers
09-11-2023, 02:40 PM
if you knew anything about the military, you'd know that generals are basically political attachments who exist as a liason between actual service members and congress.

they don't plan operations, they don't manage recruits, they don't work to improve morale, they don't lead from the front, they don't do jack shit for the common soldier.

all a general does is sign papers where his aides tell him to sign, for the best political outcome a washed-up soldier can achieve.

the US hasn't had a "great military leader general" since norman schwarzkopf

so go back to your safe space w/ a pumpkin spice latte while actual real men maintain the freedoms that you hate so much.

this is like reason #4005 for why Botten's wife cheats.

^^^^ Does not know what he's talking about. ^^^^^

Watching the military channel doesnt mean you were there.

Ooloo
09-11-2023, 02:41 PM
say it:
If I dont like it, its not real.

As opposed to your mantra: If I don't like somebody, everything people who hate his guts say is true

PRogers
09-11-2023, 02:45 PM
Sanctions don't do much good when you're 30T+ in debt and want to use pixie dust instead of oil for energy

Oppsie.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/29/tweets/republican-presidents-democrats-contribute-deficit/

Cry more about the debt. Your felony rape guy did it.

Elizondo
09-11-2023, 02:46 PM
Oppsie.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/29/tweets/republican-presidents-democrats-contribute-deficit/

Cry more about the debt. Your felony rape guy did it.

lol Politifact

Ooloo
09-11-2023, 02:50 PM
Claim: Red truck explodes into flames

Politifact: FALSE; the truck was actually burgundy.

PRogers
09-11-2023, 02:53 PM
As opposed to your mantra: If I don't like somebody, everything people who hate his guts say is true

Hilarious coming from this guy. You've pretty much said that facts cant be true because we cant really know anything about anything.

Any historical fact, scientific fact, any article ever written, its all just made up by people and they could be wrong.

PRogers
09-11-2023, 02:55 PM
you never served, you wouldn't know.

how is it a low for me? you parrot anything you read online and deride those who disagree with you

you're nothing more than a liberal talking point vending machine who sits in front of a computer, arguing with strangers while his wife takes it from other men.

and it's a low for me, somehow.

Say you're into cuck porn without saying "im into cuck porn".

You just projected your search history onto the forum bud. lolol

Ooloo
09-11-2023, 03:18 PM
Hilarious coming from this guy. You've pretty much said that facts cant be true because we cant really know anything about anything.

Any historical fact, scientific fact, any article ever written, its all just made up by people and they could be wrong.

Lol wtf I've never said anything even remotely like that.

I'm not some "what IS truth??" relativist- that's you guys!

Origen
09-11-2023, 03:24 PM
And yet you can't ever provide proof for your claims, because, when pressed on the lack of evidence, suddenly relativism kicks in regarding facts!

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 03:29 PM
Oppsie.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/29/tweets/republican-presidents-democrats-contribute-deficit/

Cry more about the debt. Your felony rape guy did it.

Deficit isn't debt. You *cannot dislike the TCJA and still take credit for it.

*You can but I won't like you for it.

Ooloo
09-11-2023, 04:23 PM
And yet you can't ever provide proof for your claims, because, when pressed on the lack of evidence, suddenly relativism kicks in regarding facts!

Haha I'll be like: Here's a paper about the inadequacies of the available data on gender-affirming care.

And you're like: Look at this big list of names who think it's good!

It's a retarded dance we do, but i do respect your troll game.

Origen
09-11-2023, 04:37 PM
Haha I'll be like: Here's a paper about the inadequacies of the available data on gender-affirming care.

And you're like: Look at this big list of names who think it's good!

It's a retarded dance we do, but i do respect your troll game.You and I both know it's never a paper but actually a conservative on youtube who also doesn't bother to cite his sources, like you.

Go ahead, post the "paper" you are referring to.

unsunghero
09-11-2023, 06:33 PM
Oppsie.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/29/tweets/republican-presidents-democrats-contribute-deficit/

Cry more about the debt. Your felony rape guy did it.

Wasn’t a big part of that cutting everyone checks because all these governors decided “hey let’s lock down everyone in their homes and crash the economy until nothing bad ever happens again and no one dies”?

Honesty asking, I don’t follow fiscal stuff

Ooloo
09-11-2023, 06:49 PM
You and I both know it's never a paper but actually a conservative on youtube who also doesn't bother to cite his sources, like you.

Go ahead, post the "paper" you are referring to.

Haha I literally already posted it, in this thread, in response to a post by you.

Ooloo
09-11-2023, 07:06 PM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10027312/

"Of the 23 studies that met the inclusion criteria, the majority indicated a reduction in suicidality following gender-affirming treatment; however, the literature to date suffers from a lack of methodological rigor that increases the risk of type I error. There is a need for continued research in suicidality outcomes following gender-affirming treatment that adequately controls for the presence of psychiatric comorbidity and treatment, substance use, and other suicide risk-enhancing and reducing factors. There is also a need for future systematic reviews given the inherent limitations of a narrative review. There may be implications on the informed consent process of gender-affirming treatment given the current lack of methodological robustness of the literature reviewed."

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 07:08 PM
Wasn’t a big part of that cutting everyone checks because all these governors decided “hey let’s lock down everyone in their homes and crash the economy until nothing bad ever happens again and no one dies”?

Honesty asking, I don’t follow fiscal stuff

And then the Covid spending expired and "Biden" reduced the deficit.

unsunghero
09-11-2023, 07:16 PM
Memes

magnetaress
09-11-2023, 07:24 PM
Memes

This is hilarious. Gotta admit.

Origen
09-11-2023, 07:32 PM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10027312/

"Of the 23 studies that met the inclusion criteria, the majority indicated a reduction in suicidality following gender-affirming treatment; however, the literature to date suffers from a lack of methodological rigor that increases the risk of type I error. There is a need for continued research in suicidality outcomes following gender-affirming treatment that adequately controls for the presence of psychiatric comorbidity and treatment, substance use, and other suicide risk-enhancing and reducing factors. There is also a need for future systematic reviews given the inherent limitations of a narrative review. There may be implications on the informed consent process of gender-affirming treatment given the current lack of methodological robustness of the literature reviewed."Now read the conclusion and tell me if it's possible to even do the suggested follow-up research in your imaginary fascist state.

Topgunben
09-11-2023, 07:44 PM
Keep up with your kinfolk brainwashing.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

23018

If we are honest, we know why the murder rate is high in some cities. It's because of one particular race that tends to commit most of the murders.

Below is a direct quote from https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/black-black-homicide-psychological-political-perspective


"Black homicide rates are seven to eight times those of whites though Blacks have a rate of poverty only four to five times that of whites"

I think it's disingenuous for republicans to blame democrats for the murder rate of said race. Although I will say that democrats tend to take a softer roll on punishing criminals, which I believe is part of the reason, except Bill Clinton - who was happy to enforce 3 strikers your out.

Maybe its because of poverty, or prejudice, or inequality, or some contrived reason that they murder at such a high rate. All I know if that I wouldnt want to live in a predominately black neighborhood, just like I wouldnt want to live in a predominantly slavic or russian neighborhood. If blacks are honest, they dont want to live around eachother either.

Call me racist, IDGAS. Truth is if we dont call a spade a spade, its going to end up hurting the majority of blacks who are decent people.

unsunghero
09-11-2023, 07:47 PM
Black

You spelled “evil guns” wrong

unsunghero
09-11-2023, 07:50 PM
Wonder if this true or just a diff categorization

“The FBI reports that armed citizens only stopped 14 of the 302 active shooter incidents it identified for the period 2014-2022. The FBI defines active shooter incidents as those in which an individual actively kills or attempts to kill people in a populated, public area. But it does not include those it deems related to other criminal activity, such as a robbery or fighting over drug turf.

An analysis by the CPRC identified a total of 440 active shooter incidents during that period and found that an armed citizen stopped 157. A previous report looked at only instances when armed civilians stopped what likely would have been mass public shootings. There were another 27 cases that we didn’t include where armed civilians stopped armed attacks, but the suspect didn’t fire his gun. Those cases are excluded from our calculations, though it could be argued that a civilian also stopped what likely could have been an active shooting event.

The FBI reported that armed citizens thwarted 4.6% of active shooter incidents, while the CPRC found 35.7%.

Two factors explain this discrepancy – one, misclassified shootings; and two, overlooked incidents. Regarding the former, the CPRC determined that the FBI reports had misclassified five shootings: In two incidents, the Bureau notes in its detailed write-up that citizens possessing valid firearms permits confronted the shooters and caused them to flee the scene. However, the FBI did not list these cases as being stopped by armed citizens because police later apprehended the attackers. In two other incidents, the FBI misidentified armed civilians as armed security personnel. Finally, the FBI failed to mention citizen engagement in one incident”

https://crimeresearch.org/2023/08/massive-errors-in-fbis-active-shooting-reports-from-2014-2022-regarding-cases-where-civilians-stop-attacks-instead-of-4-6-the-correct-number-is-at-least-35-7-in-2022-it-is-at-least-41-3/

unsunghero
09-11-2023, 08:01 PM
^
If not true, see how easy statistics can be manipulated to present a particular narrative?

Ooloo
09-11-2023, 08:05 PM
Now read the conclusion and tell me if it's possible to even do the suggested follow-up research in your imaginary fascist state.

Lol what? The conclusion is basically the exact same thing:

"There is a need for continued research on suicidality outcomes following gender-affirming treatment. Future research that incorporates multiple measures of suicidality and adequately controls for the presence of psychiatric comorbidity, substance use, and other suicide risk-enhancing factors is needed to strengthen the validity and increase the robustness of the results. There may be implications for the informed consent process of gender-affirming treatment given the current lack of methodological robustness of the literature reviewed."

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 08:14 PM
If we are honest, we know why the murder rate is high in some cities. It's because of one particular race that tends to commit most of the murders.

Below is a direct quote from https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/black-black-homicide-psychological-political-perspective


"Black homicide rates are seven to eight times those of whites though Blacks have a rate of poverty only four to five times that of whites"

I think it's disingenuous for republicans to blame democrats for the murder rate of said race. Although I will say that democrats tend to take a softer roll on punishing criminals, which I believe is part of the reason, except Bill Clinton - who was happy to enforce 3 strikers your out.

Maybe its because of poverty, or prejudice, or inequality, or some contrived reason that they murder at such a high rate. All I know if that I wouldnt want to live in a predominately black neighborhood, just like I wouldnt want to live in a predominantly slavic or russian neighborhood. If blacks are honest, they dont want to live around eachother either.

Call me racist, IDGAS. Truth is if we dont call a spade a spade, its going to end up hurting the majority of blacks who are decent people.

I wonder if urban gun suicides are counted differently than rural. Different politics.

Trexller
09-11-2023, 08:17 PM
the FBI also considers a gang shootout in the same category as someone opening fire in a grocery store

Topgunben
09-11-2023, 08:18 PM
I wonder if urban gun suicides are counted differently than rural. Different politics.

Could be? I do know that blacks are less likely to kill themselves than whites.

Supposedly the better off you are financially, the more likely you are to commit suicide?

Topgunben
09-11-2023, 08:19 PM
the FBI also considers a gang shootout in the same category as someone opening fire in a grocery store

It does but the media only care when its whitey that does it. Unless whitey is trans, then they just get upset about misgendering said Tranny.

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 08:21 PM
Could be? I do know that blacks are less likely to kill themselves than whites.

Supposedly the better off you are financially, the more likely you are to commit suicide?

What I mean is does suicide count as homicide in all areas of a state? More of a law question than a statistical one.

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 08:24 PM
In the United States, suicide is twice as common as homicide — and more often involves firearms — but public perception is just the opposite. (https://www.washington.edu/news/2018/10/30/suicide-more-prevalent-than-homicide-in-us-but-most-americans-dont-know-it/)

The results indicated that although suicide was more common than homicide in all 50 states, the majority of respondents did not identify it as such.

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 08:28 PM
And the wheels are off in Metlife, a new Jets record!

https://i.imgur.com/PvDpBco.png

magnetaress
09-11-2023, 08:53 PM
In the United States, suicide is twice as common as homicide — and more often involves firearms — but public perception is just the opposite. (https://www.washington.edu/news/2018/10/30/suicide-more-prevalent-than-homicide-in-us-but-most-americans-dont-know-it/)

They should count homelessness and unemployment as self harm and suicide statistics too.

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 09:16 PM
They should count homelessness and unemployment as self harm and suicide statistics too.

Still a matter of law(lex)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/SmallvilleLex.jpg

Protestants are the real villains. :p

magnetaress
09-11-2023, 09:35 PM
🙄

Origen
09-11-2023, 10:06 PM
Lol what? The conclusion is basically the exact same thing:

"There is a need for continued research on suicidality outcomes following gender-affirming treatment. Future research that incorporates multiple measures of suicidality and adequately controls for the presence of psychiatric comorbidity, substance use, and other suicide risk-enhancing factors is needed to strengthen the validity and increase the robustness of the results. There may be implications for the informed consent process of gender-affirming treatment given the current lack of methodological robustness of the literature reviewed."Would you allow such research?

aussenseiter
09-11-2023, 10:24 PM
🙄

Big pimpin (https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/09/11/susanna-gibson-sex-website-virginia-candidate/)

In a written statement, Gibson called the exposure of the videos “an illegal invasion of my privacy designed to humiliate me and my family.”

“It won’t intimidate me and it won’t silence me,” she said. “My political opponents and their Republican allies have proven they’re willing to commit a sex crime to attack me and my family because there’s no line they won’t cross to silence women when they speak up.”

Daniel P. Watkins, a lawyer for Gibson, said disseminating the videos constitutes a violation of the state’s revenge porn law, which makes it a Class 1 misdemeanor to “maliciously” distribute nude or sexual images of another person with “intent to coerce, harass, or intimidate.”

Landroval
09-11-2023, 10:28 PM
This is a failure of the communities to purge the wicked extralegally. :o

Arkansass (i can't spell it) relies too heavily on the federal government and a corrupt failed local state government to police itself !

<3 :o
Glad I homeschooled my kids. Top of the class.

Landroval
09-11-2023, 10:28 PM
In the United States, suicide is twice as common as homicide — and more often involves firearms — but public perception is just the opposite. (https://www.washington.edu/news/2018/10/30/suicide-more-prevalent-than-homicide-in-us-but-most-americans-dont-know-it/)

Suicide is good for combatting global warming. From a purely malthusian perspective, it's positive.

Theoretically, according to global catastrophies narratives, it's improving the lives of everyone around them.....

Cannot serve two masters etc.

unsunghero
09-11-2023, 11:39 PM
“Let’s get you back in your basement Mr President”

I want to see Mitch McConnell doing his FrozenFace standing next to a stuttering Sleepy Joe. Then I can truly feel like we’ve been teleported to an Assisted Living facility

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg25440ledA

Lune
09-12-2023, 12:37 AM
“Let’s get you back in your basement Mr President”

I want to see Mitch McConnell doing his FrozenFace standing next to a stuttering Sleepy Joe. Then I can truly feel like we’ve been teleported to an Assisted Living facility


Wheel Feinstein up there too and have her do the "What? Where am I?" look

Trexller
09-12-2023, 12:38 AM
jeeezus.

imagine how embarassing and emasculating it would be for any verile president to have Jumanji brown-jackson end your press conference for you.

and then to stand there doing your best mitch mcconnel impression

I now understand why these alphabet people first said the problem is old white men, then all voted for an old white man.

They didn't believe it was a good political choice, they knew that they could publicly cuck a white man at every turn, and he would be too senile to understand that everything he worked his entire life for, ended up being a joke between a dude with purple hair and some other dumb bitch with one-side her head shaved.

But there's good news on the horizon:

my boss's boss, (WHO IS A WOMAN) was fishing around about filling some open positions in a meeting today and literally said verbatim, "we need to avoid creating the improper image, as many of these roles require public speaking, and photographs"

I was like FUCK YEAH (in my head)

that means no dudes wearing dresses, no obnoxious dyed hair, no visible tattoos or piercings, and no women that look like Rambo.

hope you libtards had your fun, because your woke-train is crashing.

Botten
09-12-2023, 01:47 AM
....

But there's good news on the horizon:

my boss's boss, (WHO IS A WOMAN) was fishing around about filling some open positions in a meeting today and literally said verbatim, "we need to avoid creating the improper image, as many of these roles require public speaking, and photographs"

I was like FUCK YEAH (in my head)

that means no dudes wearing dresses, no obnoxious dyed hair, no visible tattoos or piercings, and no women that look like Rambo.

hope you libtards had your fun, because your woke-train is crashing.

I don't see why you still can't get pictured with the kids in front of the PlayPlace, doesn't it all just get hid by your Grimace costume?

Trexller
09-12-2023, 01:58 AM
I don't see why you still can't get pictured with the kids in front of the PlayPlace, doesn't all just get hid by your Grimace costume?

maybe but that would be super weird and creepy because I don't work with kids, or at McDonalds.

Unlike yourself, I work in an industry that makes tangible daily contributions to the surrounding communities and states. literally is essential (no libtard governor hyperbole here) modern society couldn't function without it's water utilities.

Unlike yourself, I can go to work each day knowing with 100% certainty that my efforts will increase the quality of life for everyone, Including You.

No, we don't manage cali water but Cali DWP has met with PA and NY DEP to try and figure out why our public water is managed so well, and yours so terribly.

It's an ongoing industry joke, because you people literally do shit like dump fresh water in the ocean for some dumbass fish that needs a lower salinity.

I imagine the meeting went something like this:

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C5612AQFnNDxM1GfXdQ/article-cover_image-shrink_600_2000/0/1520062208337?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=XqSkaCnctL1mdoyRdAAa2jtic3gKn8WHM9z_IFG1O1A

Botten
09-12-2023, 02:08 AM
maybe but that would be super weird and creepy because I don't work with kids, or at McDonalds.

Unlike yourself, I work in an industry that makes tangible daily contributions to the surrounding communities and states. literally is essential (no libtard governor hyperbole here) modern society couldn't function without it's water utilities.

Unlike yourself, I can go to work each day knowing with 100% certainty that my efforts will increase the quality of life for everyone, Including You.

No, we don't manage cali water but Cali DWP has met with PA and NY DEP to try and figure out why our public water is managed so well, and yours so terribly.

It's an ongoing industry joke, because you people literally do shit like dump fresh water in the ocean for some dumbass fish that needs a lower salinity.

I imagine the meeting went something like this:


Heh do you get to wear the beaver costume then?

All joking as side… isn’t your state an old coal mining state. How do you keep your water from getting contaminated…. and isn’t half your state perpetually on fire; underground.

Don’t feel bad out EZ’s side of our state some forest is always on fire too.

https://smartwatermagazine.com/sites/default/files/styles/share-fb-830x436/public/pennsylvania_america_water.jpg

Trexller
09-12-2023, 02:31 AM
All joking as side… isn’t your state an old coal mining state. How do you keep your water from getting contaminated…. and isn’t half your state perpetually on fire; underground.

Don’t feel bad out EZ’s side of our state some forest is always on fire too.

lol yeah you're referring to the town of Centralia, where in the 70s someone's attempt to reduce the size of a landfill by setting it on fire, ended up starting an underground coal mine fire that is still burning today. no local or state gov't would claim responsibility so it burned for years until it reached a point where it's basically impossible.

back then you undoubtedly were consuming heavy metals when you drank the tap water.

the vast majority of public water anywhere in the US comes from the rivers or reservoirs where dozens/hundreds of people take samples 2-3 times a week from surface, various depths, bottom and sediments.

coal mines, abandoned oil rig sites (back in the day they would just cut the pipe, stuff a cap on it and leave) can definitely contaminate drinking water and they do, but it's basically in a few limited communities where options have been offered and the town votes against it because of the price tag, so they are aware of the risk.

then there's the plethora of regulations and laws about how industries can work their resources out of the ground, in short they just cant do it anywhere near a body of water. could mean a great lake, or even a small but persistent creek. or they can divert water flow and install measures to prevent water running from the site and into the creek, doesn't take more than a few hundred trucks of dirt but these guys are playing with oil money so nobody should feel bad about making them pay out the ass for their work.

old coal mines and oil wells are hundreds or thousands of feet underground so it's almost never gonna get into surface water unless they went straight into a mountain or strip mined. in which case they (or the state) should have built various types of runoff barriers, concrete, giant piles of limestone, etc. this channels the rain runoff from an old coal site back into itself, where the water seeps into the ground and is cleaned by infiltration thru rock and soil.

but really tho, if you're gonna drink your tapwater, have some kind of mass spectrometer analysis done, you're gonna be hard pressed to find any that doesn't have mercury, arsenic, PFAs, micro-plastics and other human-activity garbage

it's just... what the gov't considers "acceptable" for you to consume.

I recommend to everyone the Zero brand filter systems. it's basically the closest you can get to reverse osmosis without having to install lab-grade equipment in your house.

https://images.heb.com/is/image/HEBGrocery/001553153-1

PRogers
09-12-2023, 07:51 AM
works for the utility company
says america would not be able to exist without him.

arvidez
09-12-2023, 10:01 AM
works for the utility company
says america would not be able to exist without him.

yeah, who needs utilities more than weak bellied city dwellers?

your snarkiness is glorious, btw

unsunghero
09-12-2023, 11:24 AM
works for the utility company
says america would not be able to exist without him.

Odd choice of job to mock

I could see that for something like a travel agent (unnecessary these days), pet therapist, or any of the worthless DEI jobs…

But without functioning utilities some people in my state would literally die in the summer