NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[unsunghero]

You're aware doctors are licensed by the state, yes?

Also bound by the Hippocratic oath

Removal of a perfectly healthy organ that poses no physical danger to the patient seems like a deviation of this to me, but that’s just because I haven’t progressed enough

Soon, if I want a doctor to chop off my arms and replace them with stronger robot arms, I should be allowed to get it done

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Maybe on steroids. Feels more like the dominance over rather than an adaption to.

Science stands opposed to nature. It wants to conquer it.

Look, be Amish.

But don't rag on science.

The Amish use anesthesia when they get operated on, and that is a stone fact. Amish = OG cosplay.

The plane evolves and develops new abilities, which we bend more.

It's "bending the airframe" all the way down. And we haven't crashed. And we're the alpha predator of an entire planet. Don't be such a sad sack.

edit: I am NOT affiliated with "Anti-Am" movement. The people beating up Amish people need to stop. HATE is never the answer. Sorry Arvidez. I meant no disrespect.

[unsunghero]

Look, be Amish.

But don't rag on science.

The Amish use anesthesia when they get operated on, and that is a stone fact. Amish = OG cosplay.



Gotta do it though. Modern surgery without anesthesia would be a dice roll on whether you died from going into shock, almost no one would have it done I imagine

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The Amish are smug though. They think they are "plainer than thou" and stuff. I can see where the anger comes from. They're near where I live. Carriages like fancy little princes.

Plus the women. Don't tell me Amish women don't put it out there.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Gotta do it though. Modern surgery without anesthesia would be a dice roll on whether you died from going into shock, almost no one would have it done I imagine

I know. I'm wondering why our resident Amish poster arvidez hates science so much, and I was pointing out he's a hypocrite. I *highly* doubt he foregoes being put under because "do not dominate nature" Amish stuff.

[arvidez]

Look, be Amish.

But don't rag on science.

The Amish use anesthesia when they get operated on, and that is a stone fact. Amish = OG cosplay.

The plane evolves and develops new abilities, which we bend more.

It's "bending the airframe" all the way down. And we haven't crashed. And we're the alpha predator of an entire planet. Don't be such a sad sack.

edit: I am NOT affiliated with "Anti-Am" movement. The people beating up Amish people need to stop. HATE is never the answer. Sorry Arvidez. I meant no disrespect.

i am saying being born as male with a feminine spirit sounds more like a whole person than society will allow. you are selling the sex change like you probably sold the the sacks of silicone women needed to feel like women. from boobjobs to binders, you are on board.

my appendix is out. i am post human.

[arvidez]

science is a tool. i dont bow to it

[arvidez]

i guess also we are taking about medicine, not science.

[Duik]

Armish = i sort of have arms?
Scottish = a bit scott.
I see now.
Trumple stiltskin fell asleep for 4 years, now is awake (woke?) For 2024.
Life is a childrens story.

[unsunghero]

Armish = i sort of have arms?
.

It’s time to start merging man and machine, I want a doc to chop off my arms and give me Jax arms

Unfortunately I don’t think we’ll have the technology in my lifetime

[Ooloo]

Haha, you people are so obsessed with trains. :p

This thread is supposed to be about Donald Trump my friends! Become trains men like my Uncle or make a new thread if you must continue to obsess over trains. :cool:

Uh yeah I'm sure the "Let's talk about the pros and cons of transgenderism" thread will go over well. It definitely won't be locked within the first page. I don't *want* to talk about it in the trump thread but hey take it up with the mods.

And yeah, I guess I'm obsessed with it because it is a hugely consequential issue both politically and philosophically, which makes it both very interesting and important to discuss.

[Duik]

Fooloo thinks da mods wont shut down this thread if they dont like it containing trans content...

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

This *is* going to happen. It already is.

Lots of this is military driven. Modern field medicine saves a lot of lives but also leaves lots of damaged vets. Brain damage is really the frontier. It is not about repairing the brain. But stabilizing it would be a huge improvement.

Lots of terrible illnesses of old age converge here as well.

Being able to manipulate hormones is just part of what we can do.

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No one followed up on my prostate hanging fast ball. Damn. Hanging fast ball prostate enfilade?

Google chemical castration. Go ahead.

Happy Father's Day.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

And yeah, I guess I'm obsessed with it because it is a hugely consequential issue both politically and philosophically, which makes it both very interesting and important to discuss.

What are you, some kind of evolutionary scientist?

[arvidez]

What are you, some kind of evolutionary scientist?

hah yeah. sucking off your ivory tower. you feel like a cop flashing his badge quite often.

your ability to "learn" what you are told, is rewarded i hope. but it wont help you with the they spirit. you have to let down your hair for that.

[aussenseiter]

And yeah, I guess I'm obsessed with it because it is a hugely consequential issue both politically and philosophically, which makes it both very interesting and important to discuss.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/06/does-the-americans-with-disabilities-act-cover-gender-dysphoria/

https://media.tenor.com/E6rZtG4HCroAAAAC/its-fun-to-do-bad-things-bad-things.gif

[Duik]

Ooloo: I have a hidden (a)gender. I wanna find out ALL about transgenderism so my transition goes smoothly. Also, what size boobs should I get, I dont wanna look slutty.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/06/does-the-americans-with-disabilities-act-cover-gender-dysphoria/

https://media.tenor.com/E6rZtG4HCroAAAAC/its-fun-to-do-bad-things-bad-things.gif

"Williams claims that during her time at the detention center, her prescription hormone medication was confiscated..."

Yeah. Prescription, see. Can't do that. But cops think they get to decide what is medicine. And then they get sued. And doctors' groups are gonna fund the lawsuit.

The only thing the cops can judge you for is impairment. But they cannot take away prescribed meds. They have zero competency to know why they are prescribed.

The fact is she had a ticket for that train. You can't just say "no you don't." That's madness.

[Toxigen]

you got em now!

[aussenseiter]

"Williams claims that during her time at the detention center, her prescription hormone medication was confiscated..."

Yeah. Prescription, see. Can't do that. But cops think they get to decide what is medicine. And then they get sued. And doctors' groups are gonna fund the lawsuit.

The only thing the cops can judge you for is impairment. But they cannot take away prescribed meds. They have zero competency to know why they are prescribed.

The fact is she had a ticket for that train. You can't just say "no you don't." That's madness.

Everyone in government is terrified by Title IX.

[arvidez]

differences are not disabilities. the drugs are only part of a ritual. they are not necessary.

[aussenseiter]

Some rich people died (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872)

[Ooloo]

Some rich people died (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872)

It's not a bad business model; crash your luxury ocean liner into an iceberg and it becomes even *more* profitable

I wouldn't have paid 1000 dollars for a ticket to ride but now that it's rotting at the bottom of the atlantic I must see it

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Let me tell you about Aunt Martha.

Martha and John married after they met as missionaries and have lived out of the way. Hardy folks they don't like doctors and have been lucky enough to not have need of them much.

When they retired as missionaries Martha and John came back to the states, and settled back in their home town, which is a short distance from the hospital I work at. Martha came in for a "welcome back to civilization" check-up and it was discovered that Martha has undescended testicles and a clitoris the size of an ox tail.

I was the admitting physician. I acted as if nothing was amiss. Was that ethically the right decision?

[unsunghero]

differences are not disabilities. the drugs are only part of a ritual. they are not necessary.

This gets interesting for many reasons

There is a condition for men called hypogonadal where the body doesn’t produce a normal or healthy amount of testosterone. This will result in:

- brain fog
- loss of libido/impotence
- loss of muscle/strength and increase of fat
- osteoporosis
- depression, mood swings

Note: none of this shit will actually kill you. It just sucks, you feel like shit. I still have family members incorrectly mention that a man with almost no testosterone can die from that. Nope, no they can’t

So is TRT for men truly necessary? Well it seems a hell of a lot more necessary than cross sex hormones are for trans people. Because in both situations both parties are “LE SAD” (depression), but in the case of hypogonadal, they also have a host of physical ailments as well

But guess which one is called “life saving” by the public?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Some rich people died (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872)

Saw movie.

"So, can you see the Titanic! It was filled with wonder and merriment, much like you are now. But you, Martha, drowned cats, out of spite. And you, Timmy, you are bitter that you never caught a prize fish. That's a sin, Timmy. All the rest of you are guilty of water related crimes as well. The sub will surface in 12 hours. But if you will notice, only one of your oxygen tanks is filled. Only if 4 of you die, will 2 have enough air to survive. But first, to turn on the one full oxygen tank, you must find out who has the key. One of you has the key. That is your first test."

[Patriam1066]

Whether 11 year olds should be on puberty blockers should be up to their doctor/psychiatrist/endocrinologist, not the state. Just as whether a child should be Christian, Rastafari, or atheist should be between them and God/the universe.

You don't want the libertarianism you claim to profess, though, you hate these people and you want them to act like you.

I fairly confident the best evidence is that changing your 11 year old's 'sex' would be only for very extreme cases, but what do I know, I'm not a psychiatrist.

You guys haven’t had children. An 11 year old is a fucking moron who can’t think in any permanent terms

When my kids were 11 they’d tell me all their friends ate Taco Bell all the time and I was mean. I told them their friends are raised by fat diabetic low IQ subhumans not fit to wear brown much less purple. What color do you wear?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

We only had soda on weekend nights. Chips also. Only if we were watching TV.

Now we are just talking tactics. This other stuff, I have no idea what the objectives even are. Order for order's sake is a bit weird. So is tradition for tradition's sake.

But it was hell. Meanwhile, naturally I want to sleep over friend' houses with all the free cookies etc.

Well. The less damage you do when yer a kid the more you can do when it really counts, is my outlook.

And all those old friends with a Pepperidge Farm factory in the basement apparently?

Unhappy. Bored with life. Myself, I eat one cookie I'm Captain Happiness.

[aussenseiter]

Saw movie.

"So, can you see the Titanic! It was filled with wonder and merriment, much like you are now. But you, Martha, drowned cats, out of spite. And you, Timmy, you are bitter that you never caught a prize fish. That's a sin, Timmy. All the rest of you are guilty of water related crimes as well. The sub will surface in 12 hours. But if you will notice, only one of your oxygen tanks is filled. Only if 4 of you die, will 2 have enough air to survive. But first, to turn on the one full oxygen tank, you must find out who has the key. One of you has the key. That is your first test."

I think it went pop. Quick at least.

[arvidez]

where does the pain of "gender dysphoria" originate? any dr.s?

it is being sold as a road of rebellion. "I'm a they because I will never be them".

[Ooloo]

where does the pain of "gender dysphoria" originate? any dr.s?

it is being sold as a road of rebellion. "I'm a they because I will never be them".

It's a fundamentally difficult question because it is entirely based on subjective reports, which means it's uniquely vulnerable to unreliable data skewing any kind of firm conclusion one way or the other. You don't have to be a doctor to understand this, you can just take a highschool stats class.

If somebody says "I have a toothache", you can x-ray their jaw and see if that tooth has a cavity or an infection irritating the nerve and causing pain.

If somebody says "I was born in the wrong body" there is no way to test that and rule out false-positives. Pretending there is some kind of robust scientific consensus on this issue and shutting up those who are skeptical isn't helping anyone.

I do know this though: Megyn Fox claiming all three of her kids are trans is pretty much statistically impossible. There's a term for that and it's munchausen by proxy

[pink grapefruit]

If somebody says "I have a toothache", you can x-ray their jaw and see if that tooth has a cavity or an infection irritating the nerve and causing pain.

Pain is much more complex than that. You should look into the biomedical model vs. the biopsychosocial model; truly enlightening stuff. Same with the nocebo effect, which is simply a detrimental placebo. There are many documented findings of pain in absence of any actual tissue damage, as well as cases of a complete lack of pain in cases of very clear tissue damage that seems like it should be causing pain.

Try to separate the process of pain from psychological, social, environmental, socioeconomic, etc. influences and you just end up with a willfully incomplete understanding of the incredibly complex pain experience.

[Duik]

Haha. AU$365k to see the watery grave of the titanic.
I hope they have a large enough door this time. And no one named Rose.

[Ooloo]

Pain is much more complex than that. You should look into the biomedical model vs. the biopsychosocial model; truly enlightening stuff. Same with the nocebo effect, which is simply a detrimental placebo. There are many documented findings of pain in absence of any actual tissue damage, as well as cases of a complete lack of pain in cases of very clear tissue damage that seems like it should be causing pain.

Try to separate the process of pain from psychological, social, environmental, socioeconomic, etc. influences and you just end up with a willfully incomplete understanding of the incredibly complex pain experience.

Well yes, but the ambiguities of physical pain are certainly much better understood than somebody's subjective internal experience, which forms the *entire* basis of transgender ideology.

Do all the brain scans you want, but you'll never know if the sex offender who was just sentenced to 20 years in prison is actually a woman just because he claims he is at sentencing, and is thus sent to a female prison- where he unsurprisingly rapes or assaults female inmates. This is already happening in some parts of the US, the UK and Canada. To say nothing of the female sports fairness question or the transitioning children consent question.

If it were just a libertarian "you do you" argument I'd have no problem with it, but the ideology is now imposing on the rest of society in seriously consequential ways.

[Duik]

Listen up people, if it doesnt/hasnt happened to ME, it does not exist. Im a human, they are human therefore im correct. Pain is what I say it is. Nothing else. Xrays dont lie, if a tooth isnt infected or have a cavity, it does not hurt.
Signed, Ooloo.

[pink grapefruit]

Well yes, but the ambiguities of physical pain are certainly much better understood than somebody's subjective internal experience, which forms the *entire* basis of transgender ideology.

Do all the brain scans you want, but you'll never know if the sex offender who was just sentenced to 20 years in prison is actually a woman just because he claims he is at sentencing, and is thus sent to a female prison where he unsurprisingly rapes or assaults female inmates. This is already happening in some parts of the US, the UK and Canada.

If it were just a libertarian "you do you" argument I'd have no problem with it, but the ideology is now imposing on the rest of society in seriously consequential ways.

The pain scale came about because of the difficulty in measuring the subjective experience of pain lmao. No idea what you’re on about tbh

Do you never tire of this obsession with trans people? Spending hours a day every single day posting literal nonsense about lgbt people seems like it may be unhealthy

[arvidez]

Well yes, but the ambiguities of physical pain are certainly much better understood than somebody's subjective internal experience, which forms the *entire* basis of transgender ideology.

Do all the brain scans you want, but you'll never know if the sex offender who was just sentenced to 20 years in prison is actually a woman just because he claims he is at sentencing, and is thus sent to a female prison- where he unsurprisingly rapes or assaults female inmates. This is already happening in some parts of the US, the UK and Canada. To say nothing of the female sports fairness question or the transitioning children consent question.

If it were just a libertarian "you do you" argument I'd have no problem with it, but the ideology is now imposing on the rest of society in seriously consequential ways.

i think the argument is 'someday' and the quote is " we are building the airplane as we fly it."

sounds like an adventure.

[Origen]

Legions of trans, so laughable. Also, this is America, we aren’t “some other country”. We’re king dick slinger, we don’t mirror what these other loser counties do. We knock. Get with the program.With "Christians" like this at the forefront, who even needs Satan?

[arvidez]

Let me tell you about Aunt Martha.

Martha and John married after they met as missionaries and have lived out of the way. Hardy folks they don't like doctors and have been lucky enough to not have need of them much.

When they retired as missionaries Martha and John came back to the states, and settled back in their home town, which is a short distance from the hospital I work at. Martha came in for a "welcome back to civilization" check-up and it was discovered that Martha has undescended testicles and a clitoris the size of an ox tail.

I was the admitting physician. I acted as if nothing was amiss. Was that ethically the right decision?

john sounds like a lucky man.

the dr. that took my appendix also took my outie. he asked first. i cant say no to dr.s.

[Ooloo]

The pain scale came about because of the difficulty in measuring the subjective experience of pain lmao. No idea what you’re on about tbh

Do you never tire of this obsession with trans people? Spending hours a day every single day posting literal nonsense about lgbt people seems like it may be unhealthy

Uh thanks but men being sent to prison with women and cheating at sports and confusing children with quack medical jargon they can't possibly understand, and also in some states threatening parents with custody battles if they don't submit to it is kind of an important issue. All of which you conveniently ignore.

You keep failing to understand how insane the "why are you so obsessed with this?" defense sounds to most people. If it only affected the trans person I wouldn't care, but it affects literally the entire rest of society.

[Ooloo]

Listen up people, if it doesnt/hasnt happened to ME, it does not exist. Im a human, they are human therefore im correct. Pain is what I say it is. Nothing else. Xrays dont lie, if a tooth isnt infected or have a cavity, it does not hurt.
Signed, Ooloo.

Cool mind reading attempt but I don't think any of that at all. Here I can do it too, watch:

"Duik doesn't care about men pretending to be women going to women's prisons and raping them, which is currently happening in some places. Duik thinks it's totally fine and good!"

[pink grapefruit]

It’s a beautiful day outside and some people are spending it being hateful and weird on niche gaming websites lol.

I bet there’s a statistically significant correlation between harboring hate for minorities and suffering from a vitamin d deficiency in the summer months; we oughta be funding that research!! 😂😂

[Ooloo]

It’s a beautiful day outside and some people are spending it being hateful and weird on niche gaming websites lol.

I bet there’s a statistically significant correlation between harboring hate for minorities and suffering from a vitamin d deficiency in the summer months; we oughta be funding that research!! ����

Since you won't actually make an argument I'll just go ahead and guess what it might be, feel free to correct me.

"Men with a history of violent sexual assault toward women being sent to women's prisons because they claim to be women is fine, because sometimes people with cavities don't notice them."

I'm gonna assume you believe that, but again feel free to correct me. I'm just taking the things you've said to their logical conclusion.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

What is starting to worry me a bit, is how we let the elderly muddle their crimes. "Oh, he's 87 and he ate his neighbor, we need to check up on our elderly more!"

What they don't tell you, is he's the infamous 'St. Louis Cannibal' so, you know, I'm not sure welfare checks are where we dropped the ball here.

I'm just saying, if we are going to not have this become some kind of dystopia, we have to do both. Check in on elderly neighbors, and report them if seem to cook a lot.

[aussenseiter]

Since you won't actually make an argument I'll just go ahead and guess what it might be, feel free to correct me.

"Men with a history of violent sexual assault toward women being sent to women's prisons because they claim to be women is fine, because sometimes people with cavities don't notice them."

I'm gonna assume you believe that, but again feel free to correct me. I'm just taking the things you've said to their logical conclusion.

She is making an argument, it's just an ad hominem argument.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/bMKdlPi.jpg

[unsunghero]

It's a fundamentally difficult question because it is entirely based on subjective reports, which means it's uniquely vulnerable to unreliable data skewing any kind of firm conclusion one way or the other. You don't have to be a doctor to understand this, you can just take a highschool stats class.

If somebody says "I have a toothache", you can x-ray their jaw and see if that tooth has a cavity or an infection irritating the nerve and causing pain.

If somebody says "I was born in the wrong body" there is no way to test that and rule out false-positives. Pretending there is some kind of robust scientific consensus on this issue and shutting up those who are skeptical isn't helping anyone.

I do know this though: Megyn Fox claiming all three of her kids are trans is pretty much statistically impossible. There's a term for that and it's munchausen by proxy

The Daily Wire did a interview with a nurse at Plume who approved him for testicle removal surgery after a 22 minute interview, also not meeting the criteria for gender dysphoria

Yeah, real deep diagnostic process there:

“The Daily Wire’s producer, Gregg Re, decided to test this out with one of the largest trans healthcare providers in the country—Plume.

Re posed as a trans-identified patient who had experienced gender dysphoria before but not for six months or more. According to the current version of DSM-5, he shouldn’t be diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Plume quickly set up a virtual meeting with Re where he acknowledged he didn’t know the effects orchiectomy, a procedure to remove testicles, would have on him, and made clear that he didn’t consider himself gender dysphoric.

And yet, after a 22-minute video call with Plume, the provider sent Re a letter only three days later declaring that he “reports significant, ongoing gender dysphoria” and strongly recommends testicle removal. The letter explicitly mentioned that Re had met WPATH criteria for gender dysphoria and testicle removal”

https://www.iwf.org/2023/06/14/daily-wires-producer-was-approved-for-testicle-removal-after-a-22-minute-video-call/

[unsunghero]

Since you won't actually make an argument I'll just go ahead and guess what it might be, feel free to correct me.

"Men with a history of violent sexual assault toward women being sent to women's prisons because they claim to be women is fine, because sometimes people with cavities don't notice them."

I'm gonna assume you believe that, but again feel free to correct me. I'm just taking the things you've said to their logical conclusion.

They’re fucked no matter where they send them

If they get sent to a women’s prison, they may end up molesting the women

If they get sent to a man’s prison, especially all dolled up like a woman, they are near-guaranteed to get sexually assaulted. A bunch of horny sexually repressed violent men around someone who looks passable as a woman? That’s a fast ticket to r*pe city

So someone is fucked either way :/

[Duik]

Imma mention specific stuff what is actually happening and i can do a full pearl clutch at, and rightly so.
It is fucking ridiculous that a person, who before being imprisoned showed no sign of being gender confused, has started none of the formal transition procedures (non invasive) to call "imma girl!"
That is a failure on the courts part. A simple rule could be implimented to stop that.
Not started anything regarding gender dysphoria? Cant call imma girl at sentencing. There, all good Ooloo?
One story I read, after seeing your posts about it was a pommy (UK) one, bloke was busted being a rapey McRapeface violent cunt. Then called imma girl, no previous mention of it. Then went on to make 1 or 2 (I forget) women prisoners pregers! Fucking gold.
Courts and judge failure, cant blame that on lgbtxyz. Cant punish ALL to stop just one or few instances.
So yes, it is important to stop this shit affecting us all in ways like that.
But what about that trump indictment? Maybe he should call "Imma girl! Stop hating on me" I had makeup in those boxes. And chicken fillets, until i settle on chesticle size. Its a witch hunt i tells ya.

[unsunghero]

But what about that trump indictment? Maybe he should call "Imma girl! Stop hating on me" I had makeup in those boxes. And chicken fillets, until i settle on chesticle size. Its a witch hunt i tells ya.

One of the biggest tragedies in life is that Trump didn’t try to troll by declaring himself the first female president

Doing so would create a complete firestorm/split of the Dem community and force them to come up with arbitrary “rules” for someone to be considered trans, like “prove it” to prevent trolling such as that

It so seemed like a Trump thing to do. Ah well, maybe in an alternate reality it happened

[Ooloo]

Imma mention specific stuff what is actually happening and i can do a full pearl clutch at, and rightly so.
It is fucking ridiculous that a person, who before being imprisoned showed no sign of being gender confused, has started none of the formal transition procedures (non invasive) to call "imma girl!"
That is a failure on the courts part. A simple rule could be implimented to stop that.
Not started anything regarding gender dysphoria? Cant call imma girl at sentencing. There, all good Ooloo?
One story I read, after seeing your posts about it was a pommy (UK) one, bloke was busted being a rapey McRapeface violent cunt. Then called imma girl, no previous mention of it. Then went on to make 1 or 2 (I forget) women prisoners pregers! Fucking gold.
Courts and judge failure, cant blame that on lgbtxyz. Cant punish ALL to stop just one or few instances.
So yes, it is important to stop this shit affecting us all in ways like that.
But what about that trump indictment? Maybe he should call "Imma girl! Stop hating on me" I had makeup in those boxes. And chicken fillets, until i settle on chesticle size. Its a witch hunt i tells ya.

Of course it's a failure of the courts, but why do you think they ruled that way? The predominant attitude has been and still is that if you say you're a woman, you are. And to even question it is "transphobic". See the issue? There needs to be one standard, it can't just apply to prisons.

But also, there's a deeper philosophical issue. The sunk costs fallacy is extremely powerful. If you've already permanently modified your body, you're very likely to insist that you don't regret the decision. There are very legitimate and concerning physical side effects to cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers, including sterility, premature osteoporosis and certain cancers. These things are being given to kids in many places, and the trajectory seems to be going upward.

It wouldn't be compassionate to tell an anorexic that they're fat and that their decision to barely eat is good for them. Likewise, it's unethical to tell obese people that they're beautiful at any size. And in my opinion it's also not ethical to encourage transition in young people who are most likely just experiencing a normal angsty phase of life that every human has dealt with for all of our history.

All of this is experimental at best, which is why so many activists struggle to even defend it. They usually just try to get you banned or hurl generic insults at you about how you "hate minorities" or some dumb shit.

[unsunghero]

If we can get the federal gov to pay for hormones that go outside the body’s natural range

Along with medications to manage the side effects of pushing hormones outside the natural range

Then can I say that my authentic self is 20lbs of pure ripped muscle bigger and get free gov’t funded testosterone of 500mg/week. That should push my testosterone level to above 2,500 ng/dl and get me YOKED

Or do I need to threaten to self delete first. I am willing to use a little emotional blackmail

What about Erythropoietin - EPO. That’s a prescribed pharmaceutical. What if I say my authentic self has 30% more red blood cells like Lance Armstrong when he was doping. Would like an endurance boost as well

Can someone create some diagnostic checklist, willing to say whatever

[unsunghero]

Well yes, but the ambiguities of physical pain are certainly much better understood than somebody's subjective internal experience

I had this client years ago who was a frequent flier

I recognized her and asked if she had moved since we last met because she was many cities over from where she lived

She said nah, she just drove that far to find a hospital that she wasn’t blacklisted at so she could lie to get morphine or oxy or one of those. She had just gotten some and was very triumphant

Nowadays I wonder if the ER’s have a better way to coordinate to prevent med seeking behavior but with how horrible the medical field is about it due to PHI, I doubt it

[Ekco]

alright 81 pages is good enough.

YouTube Removes RFK Jr.’s Interview Claiming Chemicals in Water Supply Turn Kids Trans Just Like It Does to Frogs

Alex jones was right about the chemicals turning frogs gay but due to political idelogical reasons people will simp for petro chemical companies.

[arvidez]

It’s a beautiful day outside and some people are spending it being hateful and weird on niche gaming websites lol.

I bet there’s a statistically significant correlation between harboring hate for minorities and suffering from a vitamin d deficiency in the summer months; we oughta be funding that research!! 😂😂

its fkn hot..been out there all day. come in, take a hit, question humanity, back to work.

[Trexller]

its fkn hot..been out there all day. come in, take a hit, question humanity, back to work.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/isnt-it-sad-kdsnns.jpg

[unsunghero]

Censored the unflattering cartoon pic of trans person to compromise on decency

[Botten]

It wouldn't be compassionate to tell an anorexic that they're fat and that their decision to barely eat is good for them. Likewise, it's unethical to tell obese people that they're beautiful at any size. And in my opinion it's also not ethical to encourage transition in young people who are most likely just experiencing a normal angsty phase of life that every human has dealt with for all of our history.

All of this is experimental at best, which is why so many activists struggle to even defend it. They usually just try to get you banned or hurl generic insults at you about how you "hate minorities" or some dumb shit.

It is called tolerance and adapting to respect others choices that don’t affect you.
Education does this for you. Thank God Gen Z has plenty of it.

The first transgender surgery took place in 1952.
and the drugs have been around since the 1980s.

…Therapies that have been around more than 40 years are not so experimental.

The only one hurling generic insults or spreading hate are those that want to take more freedoms away from a select group, yet again.

[aussenseiter]

Education does this for you. Thank God Gen Z has plenty of it.

https://media.tenor.com/842OL8w8qOoAAAAC/zoomer-tide-pods.gif

[unsunghero]

It is called tolerance and adapting to respect others choices that don’t affect you.
Education does this for you. Thank God Gen Z has plenty of it.

The first transgender surgery took place in 1952.
and the drugs have been around since the 1980s.

…Therapies that have been around more than 40 years are not so experimental.

The only one hurling generic insults or spreading hate are those that want to take more freedoms away from a select group, yet again.

An opposing viewpoint thank goodness, I was about to throw up due to too much echo. Not the hero we need, but the one we deserve, or however that quote goes

Yea, sex change surgery has been around a while. I’m all for adults taking some drugs even experimentally. I might or might not be taking some “not for human consumption” research chemicals in prep for beach vacation (not ozempic tho). It sux that this invalidates my accomplishments somewhat, but they really only allow my body to go as hard as my mind wants to, and my mind’s determination is what I take pride in, not the physical result

[aussenseiter]

The only one hurling generic insults or spreading hate are those that want to take more freedoms away from a select group, yet again.

How do you feel about the Voting Rights Act protecting a majority? (https://crosscut.com/news/2023/06/state-supreme-court-upholds-washington-voting-rights-act)

[Ekco]

It is called tolerance and adapting to respect others choices that don’t affect you.

https://i.imgur.com/bMKdlPi.jpg



Education does this for you. Thank God Gen Z has plenty of it.
The first transgender surgery took place in 1952.
and the drugs have been around since the 1980s.

…Therapies that have been around more than 40 years are not so experimental.

The only one hurling generic insults or spreading hate are those that want to take more freedoms away from a select group, yet again.

literally none of that is an argument. they used to cut parts of woman's brains out to cure depression and prescribe cigarettes for pregnancy for decades also so using "Humans did X thing for X amount of time" doesn't really help your argument. it's so weak infact i'm just going to use a AI generated response to it


Tolerance and respect are important values, but they should not come at the expense of one’s health and well-being. Education should also inform people of the potential risks and complications of transgender surgery, which are not widely discussed or acknowledged by the proponents of this practice.

The fact that transgender surgery has been around for decades does not mean that it is safe or effective. Many studies have shown that transgender surgery does not improve the mental health outcomes of people with gender dysphoria, and may even increase the risk of suicide, depression, and anxiety12. Moreover, transgender surgery involves irreversible changes to one’s body that may impair fertility, sexual function, and sensation345.

The only ones spreading hate are those who deny the reality of biological sex and pressure people to undergo unnecessary and harmful surgeries that mutilate their bodies. People with gender dysphoria deserve compassion and support, but they also need to be informed of the truth and the consequences of their choices. Transgender surgery is not a cure, but a symptom of a deeper problem that needs to be addressed.

[unsunghero]

they also need to be informed of the truth and the consequences of their choices.


Some of the fat people who quit my 600lb life show say something like “I am going to keep eating until it kills me” unabashedly

And they can. And they will. We can and should try to inform about the risks and complications, but ultimately people gonna do what they want

This is NOT saying we should legalize all hard stuff and let people do what they want there, because that shit has huge collateral fallout damage on communities from psychosis and crime to support the habit. So fuck “anything goes” however

[aussenseiter]

Some of the fat people who quit my 600lb life show say something like “I am going to keep eating until it kills me” unabashedly

And they can. And they will. We can and should try to inform about the risks and complications, but ultimately people gonna do what they want

This is NOT saying we should legalize all hard stuff and let people do what they want there, because that shit has huge collateral fallout damage on communities from psychosis and crime to support the habit. So fuck “anything goes” however

https://dailyutahchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ron-swanson-2.jpg

[unsunghero]

https://dailyutahchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ron-swanson-2.jpg

When I’m lifting, sometimes I feel like Mundo

When I’m running, sometimes I feel like Singed ;)

[Ekco]

mMBzfUj5zsg

[unsunghero]

^
Nonsense, there were always this many trans people throughout human history they just weren’t comfortable enough to share it

JK I think we all realize there’s a fad element, that will only grow stronger the more zero-effort, zero skill activities like announcing a new sexuality or gender are praised and given attention by society. I’m not saying that therefore attention and praise are bad, but it is also undeniable that they are sure ways to get more of that behavior from a child, no matter what the behavior is. Too many parents that don’t utilize praise and attention for positive behaviors, end up having kids who are using negative behaviors like meltdowns to get it instead

What I would hope all good people of either political party have is that if it is a fad, if a kid heard about it from somewhere and is doing it to get attention, or to fit in with a peer, or substituting it for some other life change they are longing for, that they’ll grow out of it like any other phase

And we all hope that for the time being while there is some screening process before a kid can be given drugs and surgery, that this screening process is always robust and un-biased

Some people I think have more hope than others on some of those points

But this bit from Bill was good

[unsunghero]

^
I think that if any parent was interested in getting their kid screened by psychologists for gender dysphoria and accompanying treatments, one fair question to ask (and hope you get an honest answer) is roughly what percent of kids seen by this medical office end up getting the diagnosis and treatment? This number is obviously going to be higher than the national rate of occurrence, because there is a reason they were brought there in the first place, but if it is a very high % I think a smart parent should become very skeptical of potential biases

Psych diagnosis are still, even for this, questionnaires (to my knowledge, which is limited in this area) . And from what I’ve seen, the errors more likely to be caught in an audit is the documentation not matching the criteria for the result. Not the result being correct or not, but how accurately the result is supported with the documentation. Meaning a clinician can theoretically pick whatever outcome they want, as long as it is supported with documentation that they are paraphrasing the person as having said to them in a questionnaire. Could they get away with misdiagnosing everyone forever? No, not saying that either though obviously. Eventually that could be caught as well, it’s just not as obvious sometimes

[MrSparkle001]

20% of zoomers identify as LGBTQ?

And people still say you can't become queer just by being exposed to all of this?

20% is an absurd number. That's about double what it should be. It's also fake. I'd say about half of them are just jumping on the bandwagon and making up labels for themselves as they dye their hair blue and green.

[Botten]

…it's so weak infact i'm just going to use a AI generated response to it…

The only ones spreading hate are those who deny the reality of biological sex and pressure people to undergo unnecessary and harmful surgeries that mutilate their bodies. People with gender dysphoria deserve compassion and support, but they also need to be informed of the truth and the consequences of their choices. Transgender surgery is not a cure, but a symptom of a deeper problem that needs to be addressed.

Sure AI response then. Here

It is important to acknowledge that gender dysphoria is a real and difficult condition that affects some people. Transgender individuals often experience high levels of discrimination and stigma, which can lead to a range of negative outcomes, including depression, anxiety, and suicide.

It is important to approach the issue of transgender surgery with sensitivity and compassion, and to recognize that the decision to undergo surgery is a deeply personal one that should be made in consultation with medical professionals and based on individual circumstances.

While it is true that surgery is not a cure for gender dysphoria, it can be an important part of a larger treatment plan that includes therapy and hormone therapy. For some individuals, surgery can help alleviate their dysphoria and improve their mental health and quality of life.

It is also important to recognize that there is no one "right" way to be transgender, and that individuals should be free to express their gender identity in the way that feels most authentic and comfortable to them. This may involve surgery, hormone therapy, or other forms of medical intervention, but it may also involve simply living as their authentic selves without any medical intervention.

Ultimately, the most important thing is to approach the issue of gender identity with empathy and respect, and to support individuals in making decisions that are right for them based on their own needs and circumstances.

[MrSparkle001]

If you guys want a chuckle tune in to this for a while. AI Trump and Biden debate cursing each other out and berating people in chat. Think it streams 24/7. Ask a question in chat and AI Trump or Biden might call you a dumbass for asking it.

https://www.twitch.tv/trumporbiden2024

[Toxigen]

you got em now!

[aussenseiter]

Hunter Biden to plead guilty to federal criminal tax charges (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/20/hunter-biden-to-plead-guilty-to-federal-criminal-tax-charges.html)

https://i.imgur.com/P6NuIhF.png

[Toxigen]

If only we knew how deep the Hunter hole goes.



https://i.imgur.com/GDMaDS3.png

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

If Trump, then Trump; If Trump and trannies, then trannies; If Trump and trannies and Hunter Biden, then laptop


Just keeping track of the machinery.

Someone used the phrase "biological reality" and wasn't using it in reference to the fact we are not lithovores. So many angry Amish on this thread.

[aussenseiter]

If Trump, then Trump; If Trump and trannies, then trannies; If Trump and trannies and Hunter Biden, then laptop


Just keeping track of the machinery.

Someone used the phrase "biological reality" and wasn't using it in reference to the fact we are not lithovores. So many angry Amish on this thread.

But he does consume rocks.

[Botten]

Cool a win

Supreme Court declines appeal from Christian school fighting transgender housing (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/20/supreme-court-christian-school-transgender-housing-discriminiation/70334654007/)

Lower courts, including the St. Louis-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit, sided with the Biden administration on a procedural point last year, finding that the college did not have standing to sue in part because the government never attempted to enforce an anti-discrimination complaint against the school.

The Christian school did it to themselves by suing over something that didn’t even happen. Now they have to comply instead of quietly discriminating like they were already doing.

Glad when Christian hate suffers.

[Origen]

I'm sure those "Christian" universities will still go out of their way to make transgender students suffer, since things like that are the point of conservative "rhetoric"

It wouldn't be so widespread if conservatives were not so easily convinced of whatever reinforces their biases, but Alas, that problem is centuries old

[arvidez]

christians are so uptight! believe what we believe or we will shun you!
not like the tolerant woke.

[aussenseiter]

Cool a win

Supreme Court declines appeal from Christian school fighting transgender housing (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/20/supreme-court-christian-school-transgender-housing-discriminiation/70334654007/)



The Christian school did it to themselves by suing over something that didn’t even happen. Now they have to comply instead of quietly discriminating like they were already doing.

Glad when Christian hate suffers.

Standing is not a merit decision.

[arvidez]

If Trump, then Trump; If Trump and trannies, then trannies; If Trump and trannies and Hunter Biden, then laptop


Just keeping track of the machinery.

Someone used the phrase "biological reality" and wasn't using it in reference to the fact we are not lithovores. So many angry Amish on this thread.

caught all the nazis? now you amish hunting hat is on?

[Ooloo]

Haha what a bunch of horse shit. Once you doofuses start complaining about muslim intolerance of the transgender community I might believe you actually have firm principles or values.

I think muslims and christians are both correct to oppose it, but you only ever call out the easy one.

[Origen]

Lemme know when America becomes a muslim majority country, transphobe

[Ooloo]

Lemme know when America becomes a muslim majority country, transphobe

So it has to be muslim majority to critique the social attitudes of muslim majority communities within america?

This is the hilariously stupid problem with intersectionality.

[misterbonkers]

Lemme know when America becomes a muslim majority country, transphobe

it already is in his mind

[Ooloo]

Boy you guys sure do make lots of great posts, such as "ur dumb" and also "ur a transphobe".

Still no answer as to why you only attack christians for being transphobic. Here I'll help you out:

A principle is a thing that is supposed to be unwavering and unchanging. When you waffle on it, it's not really a principle anymore and thus all your moral outrage when you claim it's being violated rings hollow.

[Botten]

Boy you guys sure do make lots of great posts, such as "ur dumb" and also "ur a transphobe".

Still no answer as to why you only attack christians for being transphobic. Here I'll help you out:

A principle is a thing that is supposed to be unwavering and unchanging. When you waffle on it, it's not really a principle anymore and thus all your moral outrage when you claim it's being violated rings hollow.

Not labeling anyone any pronouns, now against forum rules.

I don't think anyone is ONLY attacking Christians but why do you only want them targeted? Do you need a tangent?

Thou, I will reiterate:

Transgender can be found all over the globe. Older Americans never had a problem with it until their Christian base needed another renergizing - crusading narrative pushed on them by their political party.

[Landroval]

Lemme know when America becomes a muslim majority country, transphobe

https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=26343871

A search for the term "Origen" nets results indicating you are attempting to Smurf from the lexicon of Gwaihir

[Ooloo]

What I'm saying is that anyone can do the easy thing (criticizing christians). It might have been brave to criticize christians in the year 1680 or whatever, but it's basically the coolest thing you can do now.

Muslims tend to have much more socially conservative attitudes especially with regard to sex and gender roles, but they're also a "protected class" according to intersectionality, so it short-circuits the modern lib mind when they might actually have to criticize muslims. It betrays their cowardice and doublethink that they won't do it.

It's very much in line with the lib stance on free speech; they'll say they love it when it's stuff they agree with, the tricky part is sticking up for it when it's the stuff you don't like. It's a very simple test that is great for sussing out the nascent dictators among us.

[Landroval]

What I'm saying is that anyone can do the easy thing (criticizing christians). It might have been brave to criticize christians in the year 1680 or whatever, but it's basically the coolest thing you can do now.

Muslims tend to have much more socially conservative attitudes especially with regard to sex and gender roles, but they're also a "protected class" according to intersectionality, so it short-circuits the modern lib mind when they might actually have to criticize muslims. It betrays their cowardice and doublethink that they won't.

It's very much in line with the lib stance on free speech; they'll say they love it when it's stuff they agree with, the tricky part is sticking up for it when it's the stuff you don't like. It's a very simple test that is great for sussing out the nascent dictators among us.

It doesn't help that the vast majority of contemporary Christians are biblically illiterate, and allow bad actors to draw them into debate defending deliberately constructed strawmen of the faith.

[aussenseiter]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=26343871

A search for the term "Origen" nets results indicating you are attempting to Smurf from the lexicon of Gwaihir

Crap

[Landroval]

Crap

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2803073&highlight=Origen#post2803073

In reviewing the archives for the term, this post by you; #18324, was a good post too:

Nod is said to be outside of the presence or face of God. Origen defined Nod as the land of trembling and wrote that it symbolized the condition of all who forsake God.[8] Early commentators treated it as the opposite of Eden (worse still than the land of exile for the rest of humanity). In the English tradition Nod was sometimes described as a desert inhabited only by ferocious beasts or monsters. Others interpreted Nod as dark or even underground—away from the face of God.[9]

Interesting fact; the term "face of God" in Hebrew is "P'ni-el" (which is etymologically related to the term "Pineal" denoting the pineal gland in the human brain.

[Origen]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=26343871

A search for the term "Origen" nets results indicating you are attempting to Smurf from the lexicon of GwaihirI picked it because he is a proto-universalist who may or may not have castrated himself, don't read too much into it. I don't know who Gwaihir is, I learned about Origen through David Bentley Hart.

I'll criticize any transphobe, religious or secular. As usual, Ooloo is just making attempts to frame the argument in a way that he thinks he can control, but he doesn't seem to perceive how flat his arguments fall regardless of his "footing". Which, like his idol Ben Shapiro, is endearing, in a sense.

[Landroval]

I picked it because he is a proto-universalist who may or may not have castrated himself, don't read too much into it. I don't know who Gwaihir is, I learned about Origen through David Bentley Hart.

I'll criticize any transphobe, religious or secular. As usual, Ooloo is just making attempts to frame the argument in a way that he thinks he can control, but he doesn't seem to perceive how flat his arguments fall regardless of his "footing". Which, like his idol Ben Shapiro, is endearing, in a sense.

You should actually read Origen. Describing him as a Christian universalist is a bit of a stretch.

[unsunghero]

I'm sure those "Christian" universities will still go out of their way to make transgender students suffer, since things like that are the point of conservative "rhetoric"

It wouldn't be so widespread if conservatives were not so easily convinced of whatever reinforces their biases, but Alas, that problem is centuries old

WB Rob

[Origen]

Paraphrasing Hart when I call him that, I'm new as hell to all of this. I was as agnostic as the next asshole until about a year ago

[Origen]

WB RobThanks I had to get a job I hope you are well

[Landroval]

Paraphrasing Hart when I call him that, I'm new as hell to all of this. I was as agnostic as the next asshole until about a year ago

Seriously though. You should read Against Celsum. It's a really good read. On top of that, you'll see how many of the exact same arguments are still utilized by those who would criticize and denigrate the faith, both exoteric and esoteric aspects alike.

For example, there are people that still clutch the pearls of Jesus Christ being born of the adulterous union of the Roman Legionaire Panthera and Mary despite this specific point being soundly refuted in the first book of Against Celsum, and it's far from the only "criticism" of the narrative still being bandied about by doggedly hateful anti-christians.

[Origen]

I will absolutely read his work, thank you. I've heard it's an excellent foil but I usually find myself arguing with Christians, not defending them. I started in a small group a few weeks ago and boy-oh-boy do I have very little in common with southern Evangelical types. Nice houses, though!

I have been reading Hart's "The Story of Christianity" this week, lots of these older Church Fathers being bandied about and it's an endless series of reads about some of these folks.

I do think it is a mistake being made by the actual nebulous left, the rejection of all spiritualism, generally speaking.

[Trexller]

I do think it is a mistake being made by the actual nebulous left, the rejection of all spiritualism, generally speaking.

no mistake, it's by design

the state must be the highest authority in the universe for their marxist ideas to get off the ground

[Origen]

I don't take advice on spiritualism or marxism from non-believers but thank you

[Duik]

Fight the fights worth winning. So what, we win vs the muslim hatred, low %age of win there.
Convert (see what i did there?) Christian thinking on [the subject] and voila! Whole lotta winning going on there. In the US & A and here in OZ.

We in comfortable countries watch the box and see atrocities around the world, we feel sad and empathetic, but hey what can we really do. Meanwhile our utilities, fuel, housing and food costs are skyrocketing, keeping us busy. Just as "they" intend it.
Then we watch our box, see that x% of people in countryY are starving, meanwhile the the gubba are building a soccer stadium and golf course with Saudi oil money...
Welcome to the Blunderdome.

[Landroval]

Fact of the matter is, you should actually go to primary sources on this matter. Origen wasn't exactly a universalist, in the modern sense of the word. He was posthumously declared heretical (and later restored from this categorization) because he stated that Christ's sacrifice was so substantial that it's redemptive properties could even extend to Satan himself, IF Satan were to repent, which he would never do due to his attachment to the Pride-matrix, and he expressed some concepts about the pre-existence of the soul prior to human conception. Aside from that, he was rather Orthodox, and is largely responsible for th vast majority of exegesis of the old testament, and clarification of stance on orthodoxy which predates the council of Nicea and the development of the Nicene Creed outlining hypostasis over Arianist and adoptionist perspectives on the nature of Christ's divinity/apotheosis

[aussenseiter]

Just as "they" intend it.
Then we watch our box, see that x% of people in countryY are starving, meanwhile the the gubba are building a soccer stadium and golf course with Saudi oil money...
Welcome to the Blunderdome.

Eat here or we'll both starve.

[Landroval]

Who is "they"?

Qui?

[Landroval]

There's an interesting fact about the Early Church that is, essentially entirely overlooked.

Why was James the Just, Jesus' Brother, and the head of the Christian Church in Jerusalem, up until he was murdered by the Pharisee High Priest Ananus Ben Ananus, allowed to go into the Holy of the Holies and perform the annual scapegoat sacrifice rituals outlined in Leviticus 16, on Yom Kippur for nearly 3 decades after his initial fleeing to the caves of Qumran that Saul of Tarsus was dispatched to to exterminate him at "on the road to Damascus"?

Note, Simon Peter was officially the High Priest of Christendom at this time and the bylaws of pharisaism at this time, reflective of Torah Law, specifically prohibit anyone whatsoever from entering the holy of holies except for the high priest.

Why was James allowed to enter it for the atonement sacrifices?

[Landroval]

Addendum: source of the claim James was allowed to enter the Holy of Holies:

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/hegesippus.html

[Duik]

Who is "they"?

Qui?

The fucking "they" everyone here talks about. I dont believe that question was sincere however i will address it.
They, them. The men in black.

[Landroval]

Furthermore, if there is any truth to the claims that Origen castrated himself, which most historians believe was part of the latter Early Church's desire to besmirch his name based upon his temporary posthumous categorization as a heretic, it wasn't done so to arrogantly proclaim a trans-homosexual agenda, rather it was to eliminate his proclivity towards any and all sexual urgings. It's a bit disingenuous to co-opt the name as a champion of modern trans-homosexual aims.

[Duik]

Basing ones life on the writings of barely literate arabs is a tad insane dontcha fink? I mean sure, I love me a good story but really, the more we actually learnt about the world, the less sense the buyble made. Heretics became scholars of note, the christian faith kept back scientific advancement to protect the sanctity of the "book". Those people who claimed talk of a heliocentric universe was heresy are some of the "they" which you asked about earlier. Although the people change over the centuries, its still the same old schtick. Keepem down and stoopid. Easier to make them comply.

[Landroval]

That old trope. "We're the smartest humans that ever existed and everyone else is a moron" trope.

Yet, despite the arrogance of the premise, and the assertion that Christianity "held back" the technological advancement of the world, despite founding all of the institutions of higher learning, and the fact that essentially all of the great enlightenment thinkers were Christians, we still have that pesky issue of the supersymmetry of the cosmological model built upon Christianic premises to this day, simply referred to as "the Logos" some 2000+ years later.

In a chaotic self-organizing universe, why are there left-hand and right-hand neutrinos and left hand and right hand anti neutrinos?

Why is there "dissonance" between electronic and phononic forms of energy transferrence? Why do photons necessarily require an antithesis in gravitons?

[aussenseiter]

Basing ones life on the writings of barely literate arabs is a tad insane dontcha fink? I mean sure, I love me a good story but really, the more we actually learnt about the world, the less sense the buyble made. Heretics became scholars of note, the christian faith kept back scientific advancement to protect the sanctity of the "book". Those people who claimed talk of a heliocentric universe was heresy are some of the "they" which you asked about earlier. Although the people change over the centuries, its still the same old schtick. Keepem down and stoopid. Easier to make them comply.

Copernicus and Galileo were both Catholic.

(Don't yell at me G, it's just easier this way)

[aussenseiter]

*Which was the style at the time

[arvidez]

haha "barely literate" hahahaha is that whorza? barely literate arabs. guys, i think whorza might be a supremist.

[Duik]

Kept control of the higher learning institutes. There is a difference.
Einstein also was religious. It seems its a personal thing. /shrugs
Its the controlling part that the catholic church did that made simple people think they agreed with it. Many proofs done by science at the time proved a couple buyble stuff to be redundant. So, as a form af damage control they took the reigns (with the tithe money gifted to them) to steer it in directions that agreed with da book.
I know this is not going to help.

[arvidez]

I don't take advice on spiritualism or marxism from non-believers but thank you

might be Lord Jesus you just ignored. if you feel right, you are probably wrong.

[arvidez]

That old trope. "We're the smartest humans that ever existed and everyone else is a moron" trope.

Yet, despite the arrogance of the premise, and the assertion that Christianity "held back" the technological advancement of the world, despite founding all of the institutions of higher learning, and the fact that essentially all of the great enlightenment thinkers were Christians, we still have that pesky issue of the supersymmetry of the cosmological model built upon Christianic premises to this day, simply referred to as "the Logos" some 2000+ years later.

In a chaotic self-organizing universe, why are there left-hand and right-hand neutrinos and left hand and right hand anti neutrinos?

Why is there "dissonance" between electronic and phononic forms of energy transferrence? Why do photons necessarily require an antithesis in gravitons?

could it be hmmmm, SATAN?!

[Toxigen]

its da jooz

[Landroval]

its da jooz christians

[Landroval]

There's an interesting fact about the Early Church that is, essentially entirely overlooked.

Why was James the Just, Jesus' Brother, and the head of the Christian Church in Jerusalem, up until he was murdered by the Pharisee High Priest Ananus Ben Ananus, allowed to go into the Holy of the Holies and perform the annual scapegoat sacrifice rituals outlined in Leviticus 16, on Yom Kippur for nearly 3 decades after his initial fleeing to the caves of Qumran that Saul of Tarsus was dispatched to to exterminate him at "on the road to Damascus"?

Note, Simon Peter was officially the High Priest of Christendom at this time and the bylaws of pharisaism at this time, reflective of Torah Law, specifically prohibit anyone whatsoever from entering the holy of holies except for the high priest.

Why was James allowed to enter it for the atonement sacrifices?


I reiterate, "why was James the Just allowed to enter the Holy of Holies for atonement sacrifices?"

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Boy you guys sure do make lots of great posts, such as "ur dumb" and also "ur a transphobe".

Still no answer as to why you only attack christians for being transphobic. Here I'll help you out:

A principle is a thing that is supposed to be unwavering and unchanging. When you waffle on it, it's not really a principle anymore and thus all your moral outrage when you claim it's being violated rings hollow.

What if the principle contains a variable. Like "Always do X if Y is equal to or greater than 1" for example?
Anyway.

Back to the boogeymen


31 felonies
admits to filing a false response to a subpeona
Trans rights is basically about letting people do their own sex things.
We got big plans and the future is bright
This future does not include the sad sacks who are self-weeding their idea-line as we speak.
Spoiler alert: Democracy and the human species win.
sad sacks will get sadder
:

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Meanwhile, the law does not define "minor" as "property of the parents."

A minor is not your property. As this minor will now gladly tell you:
https://i.imgur.com/Eg62sUv.jpg

[unsunghero]

A minor is not your property

Yea for the simple reason that I can legally break my own property. It’s my stuff, so if I want to smash it into a million pieces or set it on fire I can

Children’s property, however, is really their parent’s property

[aussenseiter]

Meanwhile, the law does not define "minor" as "property of the parents."

A minor is not your property. As this minor will now gladly tell you:
https://i.imgur.com/Eg62sUv.jpg

The state was stopping them, now the state isn't. Their fiefdom is tangential but empowered.

[unsunghero]

^
I have crushed so many defiant/disobedient kid’s dreams in my job lol

Parent: “But I can’t take away their phone as a consequence, they won’t give it to me or they’ll just take it back!”

Me: It’s your phone, you paid for it and the plan. Call the service provider and have the phone de-activated. Then change your router password so they can’t use it for wifi”

Meanwhile kid standing there fuming

I resist giving them a wink before I leave tho. No need to antagonize further

[Origen]

Wokeness is a huge advantage and that's why the right attacks it

Think you're woke? Get woker

[unsunghero]

Wokeness is a huge advantage and that's why the right attacks it

Think you're woke? Get woker

I’m so woke I cancel myself and leave my car and house unlocked to wealth transfer

[Landroval]

Once again, I have to answer my own questions....

The reason why James the Just was allowed to enter the Holy of Holies is because there were actually two churches officially recognized as being Torah-adherent and led by an officially acknowledged Levitical Cohanim High Priest; the Pharisaical Sect, and the Essenian (and later, Ebionites) Sect.

Both sects had their own Cohanim Levitical High Priest which were officially recognized as having temple rights. In fact, when Ananus Ben Ananus murdered James by shoving him off the temple roof and ordering the Pharisees the stone him to death, this effrontery led to mass rioting which resulted in the Roman occupation's destruction of the Second Temple, as a means to "end the riotous Jews' clamouring once and for all". It didn't entirely work, of course, and the resentment over the destruction of the Second Temple led the to Bar Kokhba revolt some 70 to 80 years later; a revolt mostly instigated by the Pharisaical remnants who had began developing the Rabbinical Judaism we have today. The Ebionites/Christian sect had mostly moved away from this second war, as the martyrdom of James left the early Christian/Ebionite sect without a Torah-adherent Cohanim Levite qualified to lead the church according to Torah Law. Simon Peter, and his successors, lacked this qualifying distinction, as Simon Peter was a laborer prior to Jesus' adoption of Simon Peter into his discipleship, and thus did not possess the qualifiers which would make him eligible to be a High Priest under Torah Law despite being the leader of the Early Christian Church and mediator between Paulican Christians and Jewish Christians (Ebionites)

[unsunghero]

I’m so woke I’m gynosexual, attracted to gyno

[aussenseiter]

I’m so woke I’m gynosexual, attracted to gyno

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22111&stc=1&d=1687364006

Live Mas

[Toxigen]

Wokeness is a huge advantage

lmfao good one

[Origen]

Oh, man, the literal fascist doesn't like Blessed Patriotic Wokeness, what a shocker

[Landroval]

Patriotic wokeness... Lul. Thanks

[Origen]

I’m so woke I cancel myself and leave my car and house unlocked to wealth transferIt will look good when it is your turn to go to Woke Trial in Woke Court

[Toxigen]

Oh, man, the literal fascist doesn't like Blessed Patriotic Wokeness, what a shocker

https://i.imgur.com/4RUZ37M.png

[unsunghero]

^^^

[arvidez]

Meanwhile, the law does not define "minor" as "property of the parents."

A minor is not your property. As this minor will now gladly tell you:
https://i.imgur.com/Eg62sUv.jpg

“So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.” msnbc

we know how ya'll feel

[arvidez]

^
I have crushed so many defiant/disobedient kid’s dreams in my job lol

Parent: “But I can’t take away their phone as a consequence, they won’t give it to me or they’ll just take it back!”

Me: It’s your phone, you paid for it and the plan. Call the service provider and have the phone de-activated. Then change your router password so they can’t use it for wifi”

Meanwhile kid standing there fuming

I resist giving them a wink before I leave tho. No need to antagonize further

lock down the phone. no more orgies for becky. 10 yr olds need their sleep.

[Origen]

^^^That list appears a bit lighter since we lost Uncle Ted :(

[magnetaress]

the one without kids to abuse turn to animals instead.
https://i.imgur.com/4sfGTpd.jpg

The ecosystem cannot function without predators. The earth doesn't have enough.

People say humans are the ultimate predators. I beg to differ. We are viruses. Parisites. We need a higher order of predator. One that can effectively hunt and devour humans. Keep us in check if you will. Keep us on our toes. Cultivate us and keep us in a niche. Immunize mother earth and help heal her wounds.

[unsunghero]

lock down the phone. no more orgies for becky. 10 yr olds need their sleep.

What I tell the parent too, is after you lock down their electronics…because most games are online-only now changing the router password locks them out of all their games too, pick an arbitrary amount of time. Then tell the kid it’s for that long, then add 1 week to that, and tell them that extra week is because they wouldn’t give up their phone when they were asked

Remind them that the next time it gets taken away, if they give it up when asked the first time, you’ll remove a week off the time consequence

Something like that. Gotta train them kids to act right

[unsunghero]

^
One of my little joys in my job is when the parent implements the consequence while I’m still there

Kid is failing school, has been aggressive towards the parent without consequence, and I step the parent though how to turn off their router

I say “ready to flip the switch? Ok, listen for the screams…”

Kid from their room: “AAAA!!! What the fuck, mom?! What happened to the internet?!”

(It’s the little things in life that keep you going)

[aussenseiter]

The ecosystem cannot function without predators. The earth doesn't have enough.

People say humans are the ultimate predators. I beg to differ. We are viruses. Parisites. We need a higher order of predator. One that can effectively hunt and devour humans. Keep us in check if you will. Keep us on our toes. Cultivate us and keep us in a niche. Immunize mother earth and help heal her wounds.

How come I can't pick something other than Nazis or extinctionists?

This is a terrible restaurant.

[magnetaress]

How come I can't pick something other than Nazis or extinctionists?

This is a terrible restaurant.

Well. Night elf druids who eat people and don't over bread and live in a highly martial and matriarchal society aren't exactly your classical Nazi.

I believe when it's an entirely separate species doing it according to its own instinct and the system of beliefs that arise therefore to another species, it's much more akin to simple natural selection, rather than classical eugenics. Therefore balance is preserved. The natural order is satisfied. Especially if that species needs us to survive for some reason. Like we are their food. Or maybe even source of labor or something. 🤯🎆

[Landroval]

Well. Night elf druids who eat people and don't over bread and live in a highly martial and matriarchal society aren't exactly your classical Nazi.

I believe when it's an entirely separate species doing it according to its own instinct and the system of beliefs that arise therefore to another species, it's much more akin to simple natural selection, rather than classical eugenics. Therefore balance is preserved. The natural order is satisfied. Especially if that species needs us to survive for some reason. Like we are their food. Or maybe even source of labor or something. 🤯🎆


We're fresh out of new humanoid species. Would you opt for roaming killbots in their stead?

[arvidez]

Well. Night elf druids who eat people and don't over bread and live in a highly martial and matriarchal society aren't exactly your classical Nazi.

I believe when it's an entirely separate species doing it according to its own instinct and the system of beliefs that arise therefore to another species, it's much more akin to simple natural selection, rather than classical eugenics. Therefore balance is preserved. The natural order is satisfied. Especially if that species needs us to survive for some reason. Like we are their food. Or maybe even source of labor or something. 🤯🎆

this happened to Jordy Verrill

[magnetaress]

We're fresh out of new humanoid species. Would you opt for roaming killbots in their stead?

Sure. Would be great if g d ordains it aswell!the species does not need to be humanoid either at all.

I just used Night elves for aussenseiter benefits.

[magnetaress]

this happened to Jordy Verrill

I did not know about this till I Google it just now

Cool 😎

[Toxigen]

We live in a world where op-ed pieces get published about how the concept of being on time, coffee, and mathematics are racial constructs...

...all this political correctness, acceptance of all mentally ill cat / strawberry / apache attack helicopter-people, and seeing racism in literally fucking everything has to stop someday.

Its all fucking nonsense. Our kids are massive pussies that are addicted to their screens. Whats it all going to look like when they start having children of their own?

Start up the rotors.

[Landroval]

We live in a world where op-ed pieces get published about how the concept of being on time, coffee, and mathematics are racial constructs...

...all this political correctness, acceptance of all mentally ill cat / strawberry / apache attack helicopter-people, and seeing racism in literally fucking everything has to stop someday.

Its all fucking nonsense. Our kids are massive pussies that are addicted to their screens. Whats it all going to look like when they start having children of their own?

Start up the rotors.

Just because Jews publish an op-ed about it doesn't mean it reflects the vast majority's opinion on the matter. I'm just still gonna drink coffee, show up on time, and be good at math. That's all.

I think of it like how I think about women constantly patting themselves on the back for the most mundane things; if embracing a self-cobgratulatory crutch is what you need to cope, have at it

[Toxigen]

Just because Jews publish an op-ed about it doesn't mean it reflects the vast majority's opinion on the matter. I'm just still gonna drink coffee, show up on time, and be good at math. That's all.

I think of it like how I think about women constantly patting themselves on the back for the most mundane things; if embracing a self-cobgratulatory crutch is what you need to cope, have at it

Yeah but at some point the levee of cis white patience is going to break.

https://i.imgur.com/STqN6bq.jpg

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/M48XgCz.png

[Landroval]

Yeah but at some point the levee of cis white patience is going to break.

https://i.imgur.com/STqN6bq.jpg

Well, I can't speak for everyone but I don't aim to kill anyone in this life. If you wanna join the race war, just go to prison.

[Landroval]

A more suitable course of action is to force the narrative into increasing abstraction. Because in attempting to keep up with you, the message they're attempting to project in their propaganda eventually becomes so unrelatable, that they're essentially forced to craft a critique to an audience of ONE, then you just ignore it, and it loses all potency/poignancy.

Falling into the mold they've crafted for you is exactly the opposite of what you should do. Wag the dog.

[Duik]

Trump.
Indictment.
Orange man bad.
Stay on topic, or stray off topic afterall Duik, this is literally "Off Topic".
Onward fuckers!

[Origen]

The human species is a lot more tenacious than any extremely online fascist right winger understands

The vast majority of human beings would roll their eyes at all of this shit if they bothered to stop and listen to the manic street preacher the online right winger has become

[booter]

yea the vast majority of the american public is not at all in tune w/ the crazy far right/fascist movement that is ongoing

these terminally online people are just in/create echo chambers so they assume everyone agrees with them

[aussenseiter]

A more suitable course of action is to force the narrative into increasing abstraction. Because in attempting to keep up with you, the message they're attempting to project in their propaganda eventually becomes so unrelatable, that they're essentially forced to craft a critique to an audience of ONE, then you just ignore it, and it loses all potency/poignancy.

Falling into the mold they've crafted for you is exactly the opposite of what you should do. Wag the dog.

Toxigen owns a boat.

The overwhelming majority of boat owners are not Nazis.

Consider this datapoint.

[Landroval]

Toxigen owns a boat.

The overwhelming majority of boat owners are not Nazis.

Consider this datapoint.

A boat is almost universally a poor investment. Point taken. Good dog.

What do they say? "The happiest day of a boat owner's life is the day they buy the boat, and the day they sell it"?

Seriously though, it's like Freddy Kruger in that Nightmare on Elm Street, where they lure him (the abstracted premise) out of the dream world (the internet), into real life, where he loses his power.

I could write a rhetorical analysis with Deleuzean dialectics on it.

[Ooloo]

yea the vast majority of the american public is not at all in tune w/ the crazy far right/fascist movement that is ongoing

these terminally online people are just in/create echo chambers so they assume everyone agrees with them

There are no fascists, it's a figment of your fevered imagination. Fifteen dorks carrying nazi flags around to feel naughty and rebellious doesn't mean there's some ascendant nazi movement in the country. Saying "nazis are bad" might have been brave in Berlin in 1938, but in 2023 it's a completely obvious and safe thing to say that nobody disagrees with. It's gonna be alright, there are no nazis, there are no fascists. There are just people who disagree with you.

Parents not wanting their kids drugged and mutilated by totally experimental and unproven medical quackery are also not fascists; they just care about their kids having a normal childhood. "Banning books" containing illustrations of gay sex from 5th grade libraries is not some nazi tactic. It's called being a sane person.

You guys *really* want fascists to exist, so you can bravely say you oppose them. It's so weird.

[Origen]

Ooloo is clearly tired of being called a fascist

If you want that to stop happening, buddy, stop associating with fascist people and concepts. Next time Toxigen posts fascist content I expect you to lead the forums dogpile that somehow never seems to happen

[Landroval]

Ooloo is clearly tired of being called a fascist

If you want that to stop happening, buddy, stop associating with fascist people and concepts. Next time Toxigen posts fascist content I expect you to lead the forums dogpile that somehow never seems to happen

That just happened, though. Do you need it to be an indiscriminate orgy? Or does just a regular orgy suffice? Was the language used over your head, or something?

[arvidez]

Ooloo is clearly tired of being called a fascist

If you want that to stop happening, buddy, stop associating with fascist people and concepts. Next time Toxigen posts fascist content I expect you to lead the forums dogpile that somehow never seems to happen

oh to be so righteous. it got lucifer cast out of heaven. blinded by his brilliance, just like you.

[Ooloo]

Ooloo is clearly tired of being called a fascist

If you want that to stop happening, buddy, stop associating with fascist people and concepts. Next time Toxigen posts fascist content I expect you to lead the forums dogpile that somehow never seems to happen

Haha no I actually don't really care if somebody calls me a fascist because I'm not.

Do you know that it's possible for people to call you things, and for them to be wrong? In fact it's possible they don't even understand the meaning of the words they're using?

[aussenseiter]

Russia pretending to have a coup?

[Origen]

That just happened, though. Do you need it to be an indiscriminate orgy? Or does just a regular orgy suffice? Was the language used over your head, or something?Whatever churns up the douchebags

[Patriam1066]

Russia pretending to have a coup?

Seems that way. Weird, what’s the play?

[Trexller]

Seems that way. Weird, what’s the play?

someone figured out Yevgeny Prigozhin's real price, he's a mercenary like any other, he can be bought and someone figured out how

the play is that by making Prigozhin move against soviet defense minister Shoigu, the russian gov't will have no choice but to arrest/kill/cut loose the head of the Wagner PMC which they rely so heavily upon for their extracurricular military activities/

Without Prigozhin at the head of Wagner, it will fall apart and drastically reduce russia's military strength.

whether or not it could work is another question

[Duik]

Posted by Cthooloo
"Banning books" containing illustrations of gay sex from 5th grade libraries is not some nazi tactic. It's called being a sane person

Got the title of any of these books? Asking for a friend...

[aussenseiter]

Posted by Cthooloo

Got the title of any of these books? Asking for a friend...

Gender Queer (https://a.co/d/8CjM9oN)

You can freely buy it on Amazon, is that what ban means? Or is ban when it's not in the school library?

NSFW:
https://theiowastandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/6.jpg

[Duik]

Yeah na, not needed in a school in 5th grade. You fuckers are sickos.

[Trexller]

Yeah na, not needed in a school in 5th grade. You fuckers are sickos.

this ^

[unsunghero]

The acceptable Dem position to take regarding anything involving kids is

“That’s not really going on anywhere, and if it is, it’s a good thing”

Apply this to any culture war topic and you are golden, it’s universal

[aussenseiter]

The acceptable Dem position to take regarding anything involving kids is

“That’s not really going on anywhere, and if it is, it’s a good thing”

Apply this to any culture war topic and you are golden, it’s universal

I do think it's just the "disagreement reflex" rather than anything sinister.

(Social) Media got us trained like barking seals.

[Patriam1066]

My kids read the redwall books. Are those still around? I think they’re about mice fighting weasels

[Botten]

Sexual depiction in the Bible is still worse and GOP voters want that slathered or downright memorized by our kids. Gross

[Landroval]

Sexual depiction in the Bible is still worse and GOP voters want that slathered or downright memorized by our kids. Gross

The bible depicts sexual degeneracy in a positive light?

The would-be angel-buggerers are the good guys in the story?

They were just trying to get a little taste of heaven? I've been reading it all wrong!

[Landroval]

When David sent Uriah to die so he could get at Bethsheba again, that was a positive thing, which is why Samuel approved of it

[Landroval]

When Sampson betrayed his Nazarite vows for Delilah cunny, blessings were abound for him

[Landroval]

When Ham buttfucked his dad Noah, he was blessed

[Landroval]

When esau took a foreign wife and sired the Edomites, only good things became of it.

[Landroval]

Jezebel is the hero of the story

[Landroval]

We should all aspire to be more like Lot, and fuck our daughters.

King Herod was totally righteous in beheading John the Baptist. After all, he was just tryna get a taste of his stepdaughter Salome's cunny

[magnetaress]

The only way to inoculate a generation to stupidity is to subject them to it.

[Landroval]

Can't realistically expect that to be the takeaway from it when Pride is regarded as virtuous.

Now, that's not to say the diversity of sin to choose from has differing weights, or that I like eating bread that is only 2% faeces.

I mean, what's an acceptable amount of faeces in a loaf of bread? What if I only swipe my asscrack once while making it? Is it still kosher then? What if I rinse my hand with a little cold water after? Or maybe just tepid water?

What's an acceptable amount to ensure everyone's coming over for dinner? Or should it be seasoned to taste?

[arvidez]

Sexual depiction in the Bible is still worse and GOP voters want that slathered or downright memorized by our kids. Gross

this is true. i used to get boners in church all the time. Bathsheba, mmmmmm, be right back!

[Landroval]

this is true. i used to get boners in church all the time. Bathsheba, mmmmmm, be right back!

David defied social norms when he took Bethsheba, so it's a good thing! So stunning and brave! Gotta admire his chutzpah

[PRogers]

There are no fascists, it's a figment of your fevered imagination. Fifteen dorks carrying nazi flags around to feel naughty and rebellious doesn't mean there's some ascendant nazi movement in the country. Saying "nazis are bad" might have been brave in Berlin in 1938, but in 2023 it's a completely obvious and safe thing to say that nobody disagrees with. It's gonna be alright, there are no nazis, there are no fascists. There are just people who disagree with you.

Parents not wanting their kids drugged and mutilated by totally experimental and unproven medical quackery are also not fascists; they just care about their kids having a normal childhood. "Banning books" containing illustrations of gay sex from 5th grade libraries is not some nazi tactic. It's called being a sane person.

You guys *really* want fascists to exist, so you can bravely say you oppose them. It's so weird.

Cept when you do that hitler beer hall coup which failed on jan 6th. Literally tried to stop democracy from happening in favor of installing a dictator. Theres only like, 600 people in prison for it. That whole stewart rhodes seditious conspiracy conviction. Actual fascist convicted. If you dont ever look at them, they dont exist, right?

[Ooloo]

Cept when you do that hitler beer hall coup which failed on jan 6th. Literally tried to stop democracy from happening in favor of installing a dictator. Theres only like, 600 people in prison for it. That whole stewart rhodes seditious conspiracy conviction. Actual fascist convicted. If you dont ever look at them, they dont exist, right?

Did you know it's possible for people to call things words and for them to be wrong?

It was a bunch of people who thought the election had been illegitimate. I agree they were wrong to think that, but the fact is they *thought* they were actually defending democracy by rejecting what in their mind had been a fraudulent election. All those people waving american flags sure do hate america I guess!

"Installing a dictator" lmao get real. Also excuse me if I don't take you seriously when you lecture about law and morality then support the dems literally imprisoning their chief political opponent for crimes that like every dem has also committed and not been charged for. You either have one standard for everyone or you don't have any. Just admit you have no actual standards, it would be so refreshingly honest.

[Duik]

Its a witch hunt. /close thread

[arvidez]

Cept when you do that hitler beer hall coup which failed on jan 6th. Literally tried to stop democracy from happening in favor of installing a dictator. Theres only like, 600 people in prison for it. That whole stewart rhodes seditious conspiracy conviction. Actual fascist convicted. If you dont ever look at them, they dont exist, right?

6th obsessed by design.

[Duik]

There were people that DIDNT do anyrhing bad in the capitol (except for being there...) so therefore, NO ONE did anything bad.
Its called logic.
Dumb fuckers.
See that Narrell, i scienced the fuck outta those cuntz.

[Origen]

I still support the January 6th attempted coup and I hope they take another run at it

As Ted Turner once said, good way to get rid of a lot of psychos

[Ooloo]

There were people that DIDNT do anyrhing bad in the capitol (except for being there...) so therefore, NO ONE did anything bad.
Its called logic.
Dumb fuckers.
See that Narrell, i scienced the fuck outta those cuntz.

Nah it's more like don't blow it insanely out of proportion and call it an insurrection or a coup attempt. That is totally absurd and makes you seem like a really unserious clown person.

Like 50,000 people went to DC to protest because they thought the election had been stolen. Of those, like 500 actually entered the capitol. Of those, maybe 20 were violent or menacing. Charge them with whatever they should be charged with, but the general way it's characterized it's completely absurd. It's like fanfic for modern people to feel like they live in the 1940s.

Ohhhh, the deadly insurrection! Nah more like some doofuses with no plan took selfies and walked around then got kicked out.

Meanwhile the party of upholding our sacred democracy keeps looking the other way on just blaaaaatant corruption by the sitting president and his family. Total joke.

[Trexller]

hey guys its important to remember/consider that it would be necessary for any political party that happens to be in power at the time when something like Jan 6th happens to blow it out of proportion and make a humungous stink over it lest the rest of the world consider them weak.

the dems have no choice politically speaking but to drag this thing as far as it will go for as long as it will go.

even though it was really just a small time event, it's an actual real boogeyman, albeit a small one, that they can point at and say, "There, That's them"

the world is watching, china is watching, russia is watching, belize and north sentinel island are watching for any sign of weakness.

and every conviction and stink the dems make over Jan 6th speaks directly to their alt-left voter base, the ones who believe the world can't exist with conservatives. It really gets them hot.

this is political science 101, nothing more nothing less. republicans would have done the same thing had it been a rabble of looney leftists on that day.

other issues and topics are their own thing

[Ooloo]

Yeah it would be pretty great if there were a political party who just like, ya know, didn't lie constantly all the time.

In the meantime we can only analyze what actually occurs, and the jan 6 narrative VS reality is like some schizophrenic fever dream

[Trexller]

it would be great if there was a political party that existed to act in the best interests of the USA

unfortunately we don't have any :(

[Duik]

Nah it's more like don't blow it insanely out of proportion and call it an insurrection or a coup attempt. That is totally absurd and makes you seem like a really unserious clown person.

Like 50,000 people went to DC to protest because they thought the election had been stolen. Of those, like 500 actually entered the capitol. Of those, maybe 20 were violent or menacing. Charge them with whatever they should be charged with, but the general way it's characterized it's completely absurd. It's like fanfic for modern people to feel like they live in the 1940s.

Ohhhh, the deadly insurrection! Nah more like some doofuses with no plan took selfies and walked around then got kicked out.

Meanwhile the party of upholding our sacred democracy keeps looking the other way on just blaaaaatant corruption by the sitting president and his family. Total joke.

My post said zero about an insurrection. It was simply a statement about what happened, in a non partisan fashion. It was an observation about one side using obfuscation to prove that if some did nothing, then all did nothing.
Speaking of sitting presidents during a situation involving something something hang Pence, something smash windows. That fellow did everything he could to calm the situation? Like being a man in charge strongly encouraging tourists to get the fuck outta the Capitol while an official proceeding was taking place. Like be the adult in the room. I guess not.
The thing that happened, happened and the Meander in Chief let it happen. Like a real leader would.

Ha new name for him. Meanderine, not quite an Orange and easier to peel.

[aussenseiter]

The thing that happened, happened and the Meander in Chief let it happen. Like a real leader would.

They fixed that glitch by letting the Capitol Police chief unilaterally press the national guard button.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/I_am_Error.png

[Botten]

My post said zero about an insurrection.

They are probably just tangenting looking for an escape.

Best one is "both sides do it." But that is only when backed in a corner.

Funniest is "it won't happen again! New movement! Instead of Tea Party, Mavericks or MAGA.. how about ... "

[aussenseiter]

Nah it's more like don't blow it insanely out of proportion and call it an insurrection or a coup attempt. That is totally absurd and makes you seem like a really unserious clown person.

Like 50,000 people went to DC to protest because they thought the election had been stolen. Of those, like 500 actually entered the capitol. Of those, maybe 20 were violent or menacing. Charge them with whatever they should be charged with, but the general way it's characterized it's completely absurd. It's like fanfic for modern people to feel like they live in the 1940s.

Ohhhh, the deadly insurrection! Nah more like some doofuses with no plan took selfies and walked around then got kicked out.

Meanwhile the party of upholding our sacred democracy keeps looking the other way on just blaaaaatant corruption by the sitting president and his family. Total joke.

Crimes is crimes.

Civil Disorder;
Obstruction of an Official Proceeding;
Assaulting, Resisting or Impeding Certain Officers;
Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building or Grounds;
Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds;
Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building;
Impeding Passage Through the Capitol Grounds or Buildings;
Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building

[Botten]

Crimes is crimes.


Nah it was a “guided tour.”
Some White Supremacist entertainment TV host; who cost his company Billions told me that -but lost his job. Go figure.

Can you believe some non-sensible thing they told me is what really happened to the guy… cancel culture and wokeness got him.

[Hasbinbad]

Like 50,000 people went to DC to protest because they thought the election had been stolen. Of those, like 500 actually entered the capitol. Of those, maybe 20 were violent or menacing.
incredible how you do not understand that you're actively describing a command structure.

[aussenseiter]

incredible how you do not understand that you're actively describing a command structure.

Can that be done passively?

[Hasbinbad]

Can that be done passively?
Yes, but that is also a false dichotomy; there are many other ways it can be done as well.

[Landroval]

I can't speak for everyone, but I was extremely worried for our democracy on that dreadful day. I felt like we were witnessing the SS storming the Reichstag, and we were all gonna have to learn German, and eat potatoes and bratwursts far too often for my liking.

[arvidez]

Nah it was a “guided tour.”
Some White Supremacist entertainment TV host; who cost his company Billions told me that -but lost his job. Go figure.

Can you believe some non-sensible thing they told me is what really happened to the guy… cancel culture and wokeness got him.


and executing a baby is "removing a tumor"


"Can you believe some non-sensible thing they told me is what really happened to the guy..."

the things we say...

[Botten]

and executing a baby is "removing a tumor"


"Can you believe some non-sensible thing they told me is what really happened to the guy..."

the things we say...

Indeed the things we say :)

Candace Owens Peddles Cell Phone Provider as Alternative to ‘Woke’ AT&T — But It’s Still on AT&T’s Network (https://www.mediaite.com/politics/candace-owens-peddles-cell-phone-provider-as-alternative-to-woke-att-but-its-still-on-atts-network/)

They do it to themselves

[Ekco]

Indeed the things we say :)

Candace Owens Peddles Cell Phone Provider as Alternative to ‘Woke’ AT&T — But It’s Still on AT&T’s Network (https://www.mediaite.com/politics/candace-owens-peddles-cell-phone-provider-as-alternative-to-woke-att-but-its-still-on-atts-network/)

They do it to themselves


PureTalk is veteran-owned and has a 100% American workforce. They share our values, which is why PureTalk is the official cellphone wireless partner of the Daily Wire. That’s not the only reason. We checked the coverage, it’s the most dependable 5G network in the United States. They’re top-tier but at a fraction of the cost of the woke companies like AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile.

not just AT&T, they hate Verizon and T-mobile. pretty sure there isn't a 4th option even if you wanted one, Sprint doesn't exist anymore.

they broke up AT&T Bell Systems monopoly 30+ years ago and it's basically slowly reforming itself.

[Ooloo]

Crimes is crimes.

Civil Disorder;
Obstruction of an Official Proceeding;
Assaulting, Resisting or Impeding Certain Officers;
Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building or Grounds;
Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds;
Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building;
Impeding Passage Through the Capitol Grounds or Buildings;
Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building

Yes I know, which is why I included the sentence "charge them with whatever they should be charged with". Maybe you missed it.

My point is that calling it an insurrection or coup attempt is totally retarded and a clear attempt to gin up hysteria about a relatively normal instance of constitutionally protected protest. They weren't trying to "overthrow the government and install a dictator" lmao. They essentially thought *biden* was doing that, which is what they were protesting.

But I know, we must pretend they were all bloodthirsty violent maniacs because everyone has to be a partisan idiot.

[Ooloo]

Indeed the things we say :)

Candace Owens Peddles Cell Phone Provider as Alternative to ‘Woke’ AT&T — But It’s Still on AT&T’s Network (https://www.mediaite.com/politics/candace-owens-peddles-cell-phone-provider-as-alternative-to-woke-att-but-its-still-on-atts-network/)

They do it to themselves

Lol they know it's on the same network, that's *in* the ad copy that the DW hosts read on all their shows. Spectrum mobile is on the same network as Verizon also. This isn't uncommon. The idea is that instead of giving your money directly to company X, give most of it to a different company instead for a better rate.

It's not like every provider has their own towers, companies bid to use the towers/infrastructure that's already in place.

[unsunghero]

and executing a baby is "removing a tumor"



Parasite

Can’t be violating the Hippocratic oath by causing harm when the thing you are causing harm to isn’t considered alive until it’s born!

Ah, loopholes

I have come full circle though, and I am 100% pro choice no questions asked for trans women. I also am willing to provide the procedure for a minimal fee, and I don’t want to brag, but I can guarantee 100% success rate

[PRogers]

Did you know it's possible for people to call things words and for them to be wrong?

It was a bunch of people who thought the election had been illegitimate. I agree they were wrong to think that, but the fact is they *thought* they were actually defending democracy by rejecting what in their mind had been a fraudulent election. All those people waving american flags sure do hate america I guess!

"Installing a dictator" lmao get real. Also excuse me if I don't take you seriously when you lecture about law and morality then support the dems literally imprisoning their chief political opponent for crimes that like every dem has also committed and not been charged for. You either have one standard for everyone or you don't have any. Just admit you have no actual standards, it would be so refreshingly honest.

nah pretty sure they did those exact things I mentioned. The things they were convicted of.

[unsunghero]

I also am willing to provide the procedure for a minimal fee, and I don’t want to brag, but I can guarantee 100% success rate

My method is a Rahki hadouken fireball

It is advised that the gal protect her upper torso and legs with a lead sheet though

[Botten]

Lol they know it's on the same network, that's *in* the ad copy that the DW hosts read on all their shows. Spectrum mobile is on the same network as Verizon also. This isn't uncommon. The idea is that instead of giving your money directly to company X, give most of it to a different company instead for a better rate.

It's not like every provider has their own towers, companies bid to use the towers/infrastructure that's already in place.

Listen to one of your own explain it...

It's a grift all the way down -- here's PureTalk paying the Daily Wire to run an ad in which Ben Shapiro endorses the company as an alternative to "woke wireless networks" like AT&T or Verizon. pic.twitter.com/Y1PgmyMj6W
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 20, 2022

These PureTalk customers often don't understand to cover the wholesale retail right to the network and provide less or competive pricing resulting in a less than 1% profit on each line. PureTalk customers are subject to deprioritized on the AT&T network.

OUCH

Geez there isn't an escape from this ... the conservative audience is being tricked by there own talking heads.

Deprioritization

Here’s the deal with all MVNO wireless providers: you get really cheap wireless, but your data speeds can be deprioritized at any time. For example, let’s say you (a PureTalk USA user) and a friend (an AT&T user) are walking around a busy mall.

Suddenly, your bars drop, and you can’t even get a text out. Meanwhile, your friend has no problem refreshing their Instagram feed. Considering PureTalk USA is on AT&T’s network, shouldn’t you and your friend have the same data speeds?

Wrong! Since PureTalk USA is an MVNO, its data speeds can be deprioritized in favor of AT&T users in congested areas. It’s kind of like having that thing on airlines when other people can get on the plane right away. Economy folks, like you and me, need to wait for our zone to be called. MVNOs are basically the economy airlines of cellular service.

[Trexller]

OUCH

https://www.weareresonate.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Hunter-Biden-Yellow-Asian.png

[unsunghero]

^
Gotta hit that sweet spot of just the right amount of crack to make you more receptive to all races of prostitutes but not enough to shut your dick off

It’s tough being rich and spoiled ;)

[unsunghero]

^
But as someone who’s done a fair bit of hoe’ing myself, I ain’t too concerned about that

But this might be interesting:

“The House Ways and Means Committee revealed Thursday its interview with an IRS whistleblower last month who shared a WhatsApp message from 2017 in which Hunter Biden allegedly told a Chinese business associate that he and his father would ensure "you will regret not following my direction."

"I am sitting here with my father, and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled," Hunter Biden told Henry Zhao, the director of Chinese asset management firm Harvest Fund Management, in the message provided by IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley. "And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction."”

[Botten]

Oh please we could tangent all day about paid lewd acts by politicians.

REVEALED: Notorious Florida massage parlor founder 'may have set up access for Chinese executives to Trump and his family at Mar-a-Lago in exchange for money'

*Li Yang, 45, and her family once owned Orchids of Asia spa in Jupiter, Florida
*New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft is charged with soliciting a prostitute at the spa (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6791563/Notorious-Florida-massage-palor-founder-sold-access-Trump-Mar-Lago-Chinese-executives.html)

Why Tangent from obvious grifting by popular right entertainment TV and Radio hosts purposely deceiving their audience out of essentially greed?

[unsunghero]

Camp David trip itinerary?:

1. Discuss with legal team how to get ahead of this annoying whistleblower, and to possibly have him arrested

2. Order up some hoes for Hunter, no Asians of course

[unsunghero]

DOJ/FBI: Whistleblower saying what?? Yea, we’ll get to the bottom of this, let me file it in our stack of high priority cases here…

[aussenseiter]

Camp David trip itinerary?:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22150&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1687755084

Don't think Camp David has that vibe.

FOR BUSH, MOMENT OF DECISION CAME SATURDAY AT CAMP DAVID (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1990/08/09/for-bush-moment-of-decision-came-saturday-at-camp-david/f48251c9-7a09-4ad0-ab71-bbf55add9116/)

Bush Meets With War Council at Camp David
(https://www.ourmidland.com/news/article/Bush-Meets-With-War-Council-at-Camp-David-7197858.php)

[Duik]

Red skins are just jealous 45 didnt do his le bad stuff out of prying eyes.
Not real good at being sneaky, or at least not as good as he thought he was.

[Origen]

It's gonna be alright, there are no nazis, there are no fascists. There are just people who disagree with you.https://www.atlantajewishtimes.com/antisemites-spew-hatred-outside-cobb-synagogue/amp/

[aussenseiter]

Mandatory racial gerrymander (https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/26/politics/supreme-court-louisiana-congressional-redistricting/index.html)

“Today’s decision follows on the heels of the court’s 5-4 ruling earlier this month holding that Alabama also has to re-draw its congressional district maps to include a second majority-minority district,” said Steve Vladeck, CNN Supreme Court analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of Law.

[Ooloo]

https://www.atlantajewishtimes.com/antisemites-spew-hatred-outside-cobb-synagogue/amp/

Sorry I misspoke. There are like five or six fascists. You got me.

Like half my family is jewish you idiot. And guess what: they know there aren't nazis everywhere because they are actually serious people.

[Origen]

Not Nazis. Fascists. Get it right. The American alt-right is far, far stupider than the Nazi and that is God being patient with us.

[Patriam1066]

https://www.weareresonate.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Hunter-Biden-Yellow-Asian.png

Adultery should be punishable by death for the male party

Solves this problem and clears out half of Congress and the courts

[arvidez]

Not Nazis. Fascists. Get it right. The American alt-right is far, far stupider than the Nazi and that is God being patient with us.

the right is facists
the left is groomers

[arvidez]

maybe we should start worshipping the mushy middle?

[Origen]

The American middle is just a moderate conservative.

The American "left" is just a moderate conservative who finds the results of their own beliefs distasteful.

The actual left in America is mostly hiding, and watching the fascists, union resurgence, and the growing discontent with capitalism. Patience

[Nibblewitz]

The socialist pipe dream of someone telling you how to live your life.

[Origen]

Have you guys ever heard of the ten commandments lol

[Origen]

Police, judges, clerks, court staff, lawyers, advertisers, marketing executives, graphic designers teachers, pastors, parents, extended families... all things that tell you how to live your life

But, no, the socialists doing it is the problem with this guy. The rest of those and their actual powers are just fine

[Lune]

The socialist pipe dream of someone telling you how to live your life.

Have you guys ever heard of the ten commandments lol

Police, judges, clerks, court staff, lawyers, advertisers, marketing executives, graphic designers teachers, pastors, parents, extended families... all things that tell you how to live your life

But, no, the socialists doing it is the problem with this guy. The rest of those and their actual powers are just fine



god damn lol

https://i.imgur.com/GNjLtwp.gif

[unsunghero]

Lol bet he wished it was FBI and not police

Then he would have been above the law. Maybe a nice Dem AG will drop the charges because tribalism

[Trexller]

oh that state senator even lied to the police about it, before he knew they had surveillance video. when questioned about the accusation he said the victim "must be one of those gun nuts"

dude is a typical liberal male coward

[Trexller]

lol, if you voted for Biden, you elected the least popular vice president in American History.

According to a new NBC News poll, only 32% of registered voters have a positive view of Harris, compared to 49% with a negative view, including 39% with a "very negative view." This leaves Harris with a net -17 rating, which NBC News noted is "the lowest for any vice president in the poll’s history."

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/new-poll-finds-stagnant-biden-job-rating-low-harris-approval-rcna75928

her "monument" of broken glass is one hell of a metaphor

https://i.insider.com/601d51ff90dd450018a7b0d4?width=1136&format=jpeg

[Ekco]

Don't fuck with another man's vehicle.
pC9SIDllpGk

[unsunghero]

^
Ya, I love my 2021 Tacoma

If someone were to key it in front of me, I don’t think I would be able to stop myself from hurting them, which would be really hard to defend/justify in court too :(

That being said, tempted to do a trade in for the 2024 new model Tacoma with the high tech new look and the 320hp (or is it going to be 340hp?) hybrid engine. Only downside is going from v6 to V4 turbo, but I guess everything is smaller turbo nowadays when it comes to engines

[Ekco]

i'd cry if someone fucked with my Honda, i should get an "adult" vehicle but there is something special about the last of the analog era cars. 2001 bone stock Prelude last year they made them, 5spd manual, no power steering, just a cable from the throttle body to the gas pedal instead of being electronic. really tickles that ADHD autism part of my brain while driving.

it's some peter pan syndrome type shit for sure but having people at a red light or gas station be like "oh fuck man i haven't seen one of those since high school/college." thing never gets old.

https://i.imgur.com/VXEYR35.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2V5VX8c.jpg
bOyU_OzRXnM

[Botten]

lol, if you voted for Biden, you elected the least popular vice president in American History.



https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/new-poll-finds-stagnant-biden-job-rating-low-harris-approval-rcna75928

her "monument" of broken glass is one hell of a metaphor

Trexller realization: When you realize you insulted the republican nominee more for losing.

:p

[unsunghero]

i'd cry if someone fucked with my Honda, i should get an "adult" vehicle but there is something special about the last of the analog era cars. 2001 bone stock Prelude last year they made them, 5spd manual, no power steering, just a cable from the throttle body to the gas pedal instead of being electronic. really tickles that ADHD autism part of my brain while driving.

it's some peter pan syndrome type shit for sure but having people at a red light or gas station be like "oh fuck man i haven't seen one of those since high school/college." thing never gets old.


Manuals are cool, I had 2 manual trucks. Nowadays it’s millennial theft-proof because no one can drive it ;)

Tacomas have a huge modding community, assuming Hondas do as well. I have a tune on my engine done for more hp and torque and more low end. I’d mod up that Honda yo

[Botten]

Side note - anyone excited that June 29th they are announcing a means to overcome the time irregularities from PTAs due to the stretching and contracting of space?

Removing binary black holes from the foreground, provides an opportunity for third generation gravitational wave ground-based detectors to enter a realm where important cosmological observations can be made.

I work in my respected field but the scientist in me has always thought what it would have been like if I applied myself in the field of cosmetology and astronomy instead of mundane pharmaceutical therapies.

[unsunghero]

Side note - anyone excited that June 29th they are announcing a means to overcome the time irregularities from PTAs due to the stretching and contracting of space?

Removing binary black holes from the foreground, provides an opportunity for third generation gravitational wave ground-based detectors to enter a realm where important cosmological observations can be made.

I work in my respected field but the scientist in me has always thought what it would have been like if I applied myself in the field of cosmetology and astronomy instead of mundane pharmaceutical therapies.

WAT

[pink grapefruit]

what happened to the forum's planned glow-up?

this place is lousy with fascists all over again lmao

forum moderation happening in waves?

[unsunghero]

what happened to the forum's planned glow-up?

this place is lousy with fascists all over again lmao

forum moderation happening in waves?

Have you tried asking for the forum moderator’s manager?

Kk that’s my last of those jokes, they are too 2020 at this point

[Ekco]

Manuals are cool, I had 2 manual trucks. Nowadays it’s millennial theft-proof because no one can drive it ;)

Tacomas have a huge modding community, assuming Hondas do as well. I have a tune on my engine done for more hp and torque and more low end. I’d mod up that Honda yo

yeah Tacomas are dope, i really like the front bumper/grill styling on them. good lookin trucks


yeah i'm always on the lookout for rare OEM parts and period correct stuff from the 90s for the honda, at the local import junkyard and facebook groups. stuff like the digital gauge cluster from a s2000 you can swap in super easy and the s2000 steering wheel and extra stuff the Japan, Euro and Australian markets got for em back in the day that we didn't get in the states.

i thought about just throwing a Ebay turbo on but with the reliability issues i figure if i ever end up wanting to do it i gotta do it right with sleeved block and new pistons and all that shit or it will break pretty quick. or do an entire engine swap cause the generation of h22 motor i have is open deck design with thin sleeves that don't like boost very much.

they make good project builds though lots of people autocross/hill climb/roll race them n shit.

Vsxacd1IIgw

[unsunghero]

yeah Tacomas are dope, i really like the front bumper/grill styling on them. good lookin trucks


yeah i'm always on the lookout for rare OEM parts and period correct stuff from the 90s for the honda, at the local import junkyard and facebook groups. stuff like the digital gauge cluster from a s2000 you can swap in super easy and the s2000 steering wheel and extra stuff the Japan, Euro and Australian markets got for em back in the day that we didn't get in the states.

i thought about just throwing a Ebay turbo on but with the reliability issues i figure if i ever end up wanting to do it i gotta do it right with sleeved block and new pistons and all that shit or it will break pretty quick. or do an entire engine swap cause the generation of h22 motor i have is open deck design with thin sleeves that don't like boost very much.

they make good project builds though lots of people autocross/hill climb/roll race them n shit.



Ya, you know more about modding than I do! I dunno a lot about cars and mods, but I always wanted to turbo or supercharge something too! There’s a supercharge kit for the Tacoma that has its own warranty and is considered reliable, but it’s like either $6k or even maybe $8k, I forget. But it tacks on like 60 extra horsepower and I dunno how much torque

If I’m gonna go further in debt with loans I’ll prolly go for the 2024, they sexy:

[MrSparkle001]

I haven't driven a manual in like 20 years. My old 2000 Mustang GT was the last manual.

My Cadillac has paddle shifters but I've never used them.