NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[Duik]

I have dice on my mirror, cuz that's how I roll.
Toyota Tacoma in Australia is called a Hilux. Fuck, yanks get better names for sure.

[aussenseiter]

Independent legislature theory died this morning. RIP bozo.

[Ekco]

yanks get better names for sure.

you guys get weird cool shit like Commodore utes though

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[Botten]

Side note - anyone excited that June 29th they are announcing a means to overcome the time irregularities from PTAs due to the stretching and contracting of space?

Removing binary black holes from the foreground, provides an opportunity for third generation gravitational wave ground-based detectors to enter a realm where important cosmological observations can be made.

I work in my respected field but the scientist in me has always thought what it would have been like if I applied myself in the field of cosmetology and astronomy instead of mundane pharmaceutical therapies.

Scientists have finally ‘heard’ the chorus of gravitational waves that ripple through the universe (https://apnews.com/article/gravitational-waves-black-holes-universe-cc0d633ec51a5dc3acb0492baf7f818a)

So cool

[Origen]

Once again the French are doing for an odd occurence there what Americans should be doing for a daily occurence here, but we're all too damn cucked by the billionaires

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-protests-nanterre-riots-police-shooting-death-teen-nahel/

[aussenseiter]

Independent legislature theory died this morning. RIP bozo.

AA gone too.

[Origen]

Yeah, they don't just openly admit to being racists, that isn't how white supremacy works. Little of column A, B, C, D, E, F....

[unsunghero]

a daily occurence here, but we're all too damn cucked by the billionaires


We seem to have a recent dry spell for it, much to the media that profit from it’s dismay

Mainstream media these days to PD:

[booter]

AA gone too.

probably for the best. the end goal of AA was to lift people out of inter-generational poverty. race is not the best metric for that. poverty is.

if we are going to try to help out the least advantaged people for real, then there are far better metrics to go off of (zip codes, income, etc.)

[unsunghero]

Language is so fun. This is the exact same concept, phrased two different ways:

1. “The court on Thursday specifically ruled against race-conscious student admissions programs at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina”

2. “The court on Thursday specifically ruled against universities being able to legally discriminate against white and Asian students in admissions”

Exact same concept phrased two different ways. One sounds flowery and lovey, and one sounds bad

[pink grapefruit]

Language is so fun. This is the exact same concept, phrased two different ways:

1. “The court on Thursday specifically ruled against race-conscious student admissions programs at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina”

2. “The court on Thursday specifically ruled against universities being able to legally discriminate against white and Asian students in admissions”

Exact same concept phrased two different ways. One sounds flowery and lovey, and one sounds bad

i recently re-read how to be an anti-racist and one of the first great points that book makes is about discrimination.

there are negative and positive discriminatory actions, and the example given for positive discrimination is a life-saving vaccine given first to populations most at risk, such as the elderly and infirm, or healthcare workers. affirmative action is an example of a positive discrimatory practice, used to rectify the long-studied and well-understood racial inequities that do exist and are real.

[Ekco]

"it's the good kind of racism."

lol.

[Origen]

We seem to have a recent dry spell for it, much to the media that profit from it’s dismay

Mainstream media these days to PD:Read more local news, the violence itself never stops. The class war is still raging

[unsunghero]

i recently re-read how to be an anti-racist and one of the first great points that book makes is about discrimination.

there are negative and positive discriminatory actions, and the example given for positive discrimination is a life-saving vaccine given first to populations most at risk, such as the elderly and infirm, or healthcare workers. affirmative action is an example of a positive discrimatory practice, used to rectify the long-studied and well-understood racial inequities that do exist and are real.

Yea I guess if we want to use whataboutism we can say that hospitals triages based on health risks are a form of positive discrimination too

Whatever helps us feel better about the good kind of racism

[unsunghero]

Read more local news, the violence itself never stops. The class war is still raging

If the mainstream media can sell it, they will. And I guarantee police brutality = clicks, it’s why they shove it in everyone’s faces for weeks when they can find it

[Ooloo]

The problem with affirmative action is that there's absolutely no structure in place to measure whether it's been effective. If the goal is to "correct for past discrimination", how are you going to know when that correction has occurred? When all races of people make the exact same amount of money? It's a totally unpractical solution that reads like it was cooked up by a 6th grader.

I can understand the desire to correct for the past, but once you've done so and you leave that policy in place, you're now just being a huge racist to different groups of people, which basically ensures continued racial animosity and resentment. Which might actually be the goal for unscrupulous race vultures who profiteer off pretending racism is more of a problem in modern life than it actually is.

How to be an anti-racist is a retarded book btw, it's pure academic sophistry. It presents assertions as if they are hard-fought conclusions. It's dumb as shit.

[unsunghero]

The problem with affirmative action is that there's absolutely no structure in place to measure whether it's been effective. If the goal is to "correct for past discrimination", how are you going to know when that correction has occurred? When all races of people make the exact same amount of money?

Every job should have the exact same ratio of ethnicities working it. The fact that in my state landscaping and cleaning is like 90% Hispanic is a sign of racial biases and we need to forcibly correct it by making it near impossible for a Hispanic person to get hired for one of these jobs and super easy for a white person to be

Or wait….is it only jobs that most people actually want? I don’t see much of a push for more black people on Alaskan fishing ships or oil rigs. Or more women working in mines or sewers

So we need to push for equality in only the nice air conditioned office jobs that aren’t dangerous or dirty that the vast majority of the public desires. Gotcha

Is the fact that the NBA mostly black due to discrimination and bias? What about the fact that prison system are filled with mostly men? Are they biased against men?

None of this shit makes any sense to me…

[Botten]

The problem with affirmative action is that there's absolutely no structure in place to measure whether it's been effective. If the goal is to "correct for past discrimination", how are you going to know when that correction has occurred? When all races of people make the exact same amount of money? It's a totally unpractical solution that reads like it was cooked up by a 6th grader.

I can understand the desire to correct for the past, but once you've done so and you leave that policy in place, you're now just being a huge racist to different groups of people, which basically ensures continued racial animosity and resentment. Which might actually be the goal for unscrupulous race vultures who profiteer off pretending racism is more of a problem in modern life than it actually is.

How to be an anti-racist is a retarded book btw, it's pure academic sophistry. It presents assertions as if they are hard-fought conclusions. It's dumb as shit.

When we don't have white supremacy groups welcomed with open arms into the GOP voter base we can talk.

Jan 6th had the most destruction from these groups.

Racism is very real and very prominent in America.

[aussenseiter]

i recently re-read how to be an anti-racist and one of the first great points that book makes is about discrimination.

there are negative and positive discriminatory actions, and the example given for positive discrimination is a life-saving vaccine given first to populations most at risk, such as the elderly and infirm, or healthcare workers. affirmative action is an example of a positive discrimatory practice, used to rectify the long-studied and well-understood racial inequities that do exist and are real.

If you think iniquities are the remedy to inequity, you might be a redneck. 🤠

[Origen]

If the mainstream media can sell it, they will. And I guarantee police brutality = clicks, it’s why they shove it in everyone’s faces for weeks when they can find itSo what is the bigger problem? The capitalism working as intended or the real and widespread violence inherent to capitalism?

[Origen]

It presents assertions as if they are hard-fought conclusions. It's dumb as shit.My man are you aware this is the entirety of the Daily Wire Extended Universe?

Of course you're aware, you just like that the outcome yields benefits for your chosen group (rich white men)

[Homesteaded]

People are not equal in ability, they are equal in worth. Don't confuse the two.

[unsunghero]

People are not equal in ability, they are equal in worth. Don't confuse the two.

And some ethnicities just have more of an interest in some professions rather than others. I don’t understand why some politicians have such a problem with this and keep trying to pound square pegs in round holes

Maybe I’m misunderstanding tho

[Origen]

Hey fellas nobody has invented the Racismometer, guess we should just keep on havin' a structurally white supremacist America until that happens!

That's how it works with cannabis while driving. There's no adequate detector on the market yet so you can just can smoke a blunt while riding down the highway.

[Homesteaded]

Hey fellas nobody has invented the Racismometer, guess we should just keep on havin' a structurally white supremacist America until that happens!

That's how it works with cannabis while driving. There's no adequate detector on the market yet so you can just can smoke a blunt while riding down the highway.

Yeah I mean we elected an African American to the highest office in the land. I'd say that's a good metric, what the hell do I know though.

[Origen]

I liked you more when you drank, at least then you had a sense of humor

[arvidez]

Hey fellas nobody has invented the Racismometer, guess we should just keep on havin' a structurally white supremacist America until that happens!

That's how it works with cannabis while driving. There's no adequate detector on the market yet so you can just can smoke a blunt while riding down the highway.

i mean atleast you capitalized America.

[unsunghero]

Society: We have a black child here who is under-educated compared to other kids

Me: Wouldn’t his eduction be a reflection of what importance his parents put on education? Isn’t it the job of a parent to make sure their child is being educated and so it’s their fault mostly?

Society: No it’s history’s fault and the school’s fault

Me: Um, ok, then maybe we can scrutinize some of the elementary, middle, and high schools in his area in terms of their curriculum and the fact they are passing kids who shouldn’t be passing?

Society: Nah, we are just going to lower the qualifications for his college and for his job and push him through under-qualified

Me: Gotcha, solid plan, this will fix everything

[Ooloo]

Hey fellas nobody has invented the Racismometer, guess we should just keep on havin' a structurally white supremacist America until that happens!

That's how it works with cannabis while driving. There's no adequate detector on the market yet so you can just can smoke a blunt while riding down the highway.

How do you know america is "structurally white supremacist"? Again, you're just making an assertion and acting like it's a hard evidence-based conclusion.

If the wealth gap between blacks and whites is due to racism, is the same disparity between whites and asians also due to racism? Asian americans make more money than white americans. Like, asians get screwed even harder than whites by affirmative action, so... what gives? I thought this was supposed to be some kind of corrective for past discrimination?

[Botten]

How do you know america is "structurally white supremacist"? Again, you're just making an assertion and acting like it's a hard evidence-based conclusion.

If the wealth gap between blacks and whites is due to racism, is the same disparity between whites and asians also due to racism? Asian americans make more money than white americans. Like, asians get screwed even harder than whites by affirmative action, so... what gives? I thought this was supposed to be some kind of corrective for past discrimination?

https://s36500.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Benjamin-Slyngstad-CRT_GI-Bill-650x542.jpg

Your foot is stuck in your mouth.

And then there is this:
70% of Asian Americans support affirmative action. Here's why misconceptions persist. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/70-asian-americans-support-affirmative-action-here-s-why-misconceptions-n1247806)

[Ooloo]

Yes botten we all understand what affirmative action is supposed to correct for. How can you possibly measure it? How will we actually know when whatever historic problem has been remedied? It's a completely haphazard shot in the dark which hasn't improved the lives of any of the people it claims to help. It's just state-sanctioned racism. The only solution to past racism is to be totally racist to different people? That's moronic.

Who cares if 70% of asian americans support it? They're just wrong. 70% of people used to think the sun orbited the earth too.

[Evia]

It's just state-sanctioned racism. The only solution to past racism is to be totally racist to different people? That's moronic.


Very well said. The most egregious part about it is how it's racism disguised and sold to the public as kindness. Disagree and you must be a bigot. Typical leftist tactics.

[Origen]

Ooloo is a bigot because of his beliefs, not just because of his opinion on affirmative action in college admissions. His bigotry is a lot more complex than that, credit is due where it is due.

Anyways, repackaging racism (and classism) and selling it to the public as a kindness is classic Capitalist Shit, so it doesn't surprise me that the reactionaries love it but won't let themselves see the parallel

[Ekco]

And then there is this:
70% of Asian Americans support affirmative action. Here's why misconceptions persist. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/70-asian-americans-support-affirmative-action-here-s-why-misconceptions-n1247806)

what does a public opinion poll have to do with literally anything. pretty sure they didn't take a popularity poll before enacting the 13th amendment. the court is there to do what is right regardless of it's popularity.

racism is wrong. hope this helps.

[Origen]

i mean atleast you capitalized America.That's because I love this country more than any conservative or liberal

[Nibblewitz]

Abortion last year and affirmative action this year

Who would have thought the Supreme Court would be leading the charge against systemic racism?

[Botten]

waaaaaahhhh we want our white privilege back

fix'd

[aussenseiter]

what does a public opinion poll have to do with literally anything. pretty sure they didn't take a popularity poll before enacting the 13th amendment. the court is there to do what is right regardless of it's popularity.

racism is wrong. hope this helps.

I don't get how CJR backed racial gerrymandering then immediately turned around with this. 😐

[Botten]

Yes botten we all understand what affirmative action is supposed to correct for. How can you possibly measure it?

Do you because you are also against critical race theory. I reckoned you wouldn't learn either way.

[Botten]

I don't get how CJR backed racial gerrymandering then immediately turned around with this. 😐

Conservative Judges be paid on how to decide.

[Origen]

I don't get how CJR backed racial gerrymandering then immediately turned around with this. 😐Well the reverse order woulda been even worse :rolleyes: and both maintain the class hierarchy

[Patriam1066]

When we don't have white supremacy groups welcomed with open arms into the GOP voter base we can talk.

Jan 6th had the most destruction from these groups.

Racism is very real and very prominent in America.

Affirmative action isn’t popular with minorities. Please stop acting like we all need your help. I can take 5 whites in hand to hand combat

[Ooloo]

Do you because you are also against critical race theory. I reckoned you wouldn't learn either way.

Critical race theory is more academic sophist garbage.

No race in all world history has clean hands. Every single race brutalized, enslaved, pillaged and plundered other races as well as within their own race. CRT conveniently imagines that human history began in 1619 and bases all of it's half-baked assertions on that notion. It's pure activism masquerading as rigorous academic research.

I'm very sorry the supreme court decided you can't be a gigantic racist anymore while choosing which applicants can go to your college. It's just terrible, I know.

[Nibblewitz]

Some of the activism in academia is a byproduct of affirmative action. Diversity admissions who can’t hack it in the high-caliber program pursue degrees in soft sciences and grievance studies.

[magnetaress]

I honestly would be relieved if I saw mobs of racist (or just plain ignorant) ppl marching down the street purging everyone

you know why

because I know how quickly that problem would solve itself, I wouldn't fear for myself I would be grateful that a new generation will finally be educated in the way of suffering that raised me into the very straight edged bastard that I am that doesn't make stupid ass fuckup mistakes and plans for the future and for the kill

also praying for the autobots to put you all in your place I hope Elon Musk wins. Not out of anger or anything, just a restoration of the balance of forces of nature and the "ether" or whatever it is we inhabit virtually.

[aussenseiter]

I'm very sorry the supreme court decided you can't be a gigantic racist anymore while choosing which applicants can go to your college. It's just terrible, I know.

https://i.imgur.com/xdwiBqT.png

[Elizondo]

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[Trexller]

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[Botten]

Who did it best?

RpMNflXjLE8

[Lune]

This is a difficult and nuanced issue. Unfortunate that it fell on an institution as unqualified as the current Supreme Court. Wider society does owe something to marginalized groups that were literal second class citizens one generation ago, and then expected to compete on level footing with the children of first class citizens. As to why Asian and Jewish immigrants were able to do this has to do with culture. I don't think giving advantages in competition for elite college spots is or was the answer though. I really don't know how to fix it, but I can tell you Republicans being ignorant shitheads on the issue of race, and college campus Democrats acting all infantilizing and White-Man's-Burden-y does not help. White and Black people will not perform similarly in American society until the two cultures have merged and assimilated.

[Swish]

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lmao

[unsunghero]

AA is reactionary

It’s basically saying we have these root causes of disadvantages but rather than fix those we need to attend to the current needs of those disadvantaged

Yet when crime gets out of control, the same party cries “WE DON’T NEED MORE POLICE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ROOT CAUSES OF CRIME!”

What about those affected by crime right now?

Reactionary policies only good when we propose them to fit our narrative

[unsunghero]

My stance continues to be: How fat your kid is is a reflection of his parent’s diet and the importance of health to the kid’s parents

How educated your kid is is a reflection of how important education is to the kid’s parents

How well-mannered a kid is is a reflection of how important manners are to the kid’s parents

Kid’s brains are little computers, being constantly programmed by the world. And the absolute most programming they will get in their young life will come from the people they live with, good OR bad programming

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Read more local news, the violence itself never stops. The class war is still raging

The truth.
https://i.imgur.com/w88elyQ.jpg

In any given population X, you get Y percent who are going multi-generations of poverty, stupidity, and drugz. In my current local north of Pittsburgh I would put the number 5,000, and that would be "currently active." It's just the underclass. And we fuck our underclass like the Roman's fucked theirs except we pretend we don't like it.

The local police system in most munipalities in the US is a dregs management system. But they never actually "save" these "crops". They allow X number of felonies, Y number of absolute zombie drugheads, but if it get to above that, they make an area of the town half empty for a year or so.

To slow the garden.


The entire south side of my town is just a people garden for the carceral system. These people are so damaged and poor aand truly brain-damaged. The slaughterhouses of the dregs are entered at birth.

[unsunghero]

Wider society does owe something to marginalized groups that were literal second class citizens one generation ago

Explanations become excuses

Excuses become manipulation tools

If I was abused as a child, I should probably get some leeway in judgements against me as an adult. Does this mean I can continue to fuck up left and right and say “It’s ok, I was abused as a child”. Is my abuse as a child a free lifetime pass to special treatment regardless of how little I try to better myself?

At what point do we accept some responsibility for our own circumstances?

[Origen]

Les Misérables movie night, when?

[Trexller]

As an asian male who didn't work as hard in school/college as i should have, and in the younger years, struggled to find meaningful employment:

I'm glad that affirmative action has been obliterated, it is decades past the time when the US gov't needed a SERIOUS Reconstitution.

and I otherwise don't understand why I should give a fuck. It's like the plebs whining for reparations in California, doesn't effect me, never ever will.

sorry you don't got worth ethic, I had to learn the hard way what real work is all about. Maybe one day the rest of those people will as well.

[aussenseiter]

and in the younger years, struggled to find meaningful employment:

sorry you don't got worth ethic, I had to learn the hard way what real work is all about. Maybe one day the rest of those people will as well.

Can you expound upon the former and the latter?

[unsunghero]

I try to temper how much I care because the solution is to not allow parents to parent their kids how they want

All parents in this country have a God-given right to fuck up their kid’s worldview as much as they want, and only in extreme cases of abuse will the gov’t step in. And to some extent I’m ok with that, because Muh Freedom

But that means that if I had a kid, and I condition that kid to want processed food, and to reject sports and arts and only care about tv and video games…that’s my right as a parent

I can tell my kid that laws don’t matter, and that the coolest people in the world are gang leaders, that’s my right as a parent too

I can even tell my kid that certain races are inferior. I can program my kid to be as racist as I want, and the gov’t will not remove my kid from my custody for that

I could literally have a 250lb kid, who thinks black people are inferior because I told him they are, who has a dream to end up a cartel boss because I taught him gangsters are cool, has no friends and gets in trouble everywhere because I never taught him any manners

That is completely within my rights as a parent, so long as I provide the kid food, shelter and clothes. As long as this is the case, there’s only so much you can do to patch up fucked up kids, don’t matter what their race is

[aussenseiter]

Are we getting religious discrimination by Alito in the morning?

I hear reindeer on the rooftop, better head to bed. 🎅

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

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[Sadre Spinegnawer]

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[Sadre Spinegnawer]

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[unsunghero]

In all of the years working in BH, I have heard every single possible reason for removal that you can think of

I’ve seen kids removed because of the obvious stuff, like physical/sexual abuse

I’ve seen kids removed because of extreme emotional abuse (usually when coupled with neglect, it’s extremely rare for removal for just emotional abuse, meaning a parent can shit talk their kid for a long time before consequences happen)

I’ve seen kids removed because they were beating the living shit out of their own parents and almost killing them. The kids weren’t beaten, but they were not taught not to hit, and that just got more and more out of control the older they get

I have never once heard of a kid being removed because their parent was a raging racist. Or had some other fucked up worldview. I’ve seen parents with mental illnesses who tell their kid things as crazy as lizard people controlling the government, never seen a kid removed because of that

If you think that it’s a little fucked up, that you are allowed to teach your kid to be a raging racist, or to believe that lizard people control our gov’t, then you should also think it’s fucked up the myriad of other ways a parent can fuck a kid up legally without grounds for removal

Yet NO ONE, has the balls to go after the parents. Even in my job, lots of clinicians cower away from an angry parent who doesn’t want to hear what they are doing wrong

People need to grow some balls and go after the parents. If not legally, then some other way to get the message across

[Ekco]

https://i.imgflip.com/7r2j0k.jpg

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The fantastic 1981 song "Under Pressure" by Queen (and Bowie) is about living in a world where random, daily, and pointless cruelty -- people on streets, ie, just the life of the dregs -- is simply how it is. So many screaming, let me out!

The song reflects on the fact we seem to be stuck, trapped, inside this apathy toward cruelty, even as it becomes more and more pervasive. The modern opiate epidemic would get a chuckle or two from Freddie on that point. Capital idea! Just turn every hill and valley into a 2-out-of-3 will try by age 15 demo! Etc. People on streets. And out in the sticks. Be do do. Dregs for harvest. Do de do do dum.

As trapped, we are akin to the Starship Enterprise in the S3;Ep09 "The Tholian Web." Journeying into a region controlled by a strange, crystalline-like people, the Tholians, the Enterprise is ordered to leave before the web is total, or stay trapped forever!

Are we not trapped? Under pressure as we grow cold to the ever present cruelty we let pass among us? We cannot continue this path. We cannot turn away. We cannot sit on a fence. For this is ourselves.

Under (Tholian) Pressure.

[aussenseiter]

Bah God it's Neil Gorsuch with a ruling against compelled speech!

[Lune]

Western prosperity is the product of secularism and acting like the Taliban has never ended well for anyone

[magnetaress]

We are going to get the Taliban just not the one you all want lol. That's how this works!

[aussenseiter]

Western prosperity is the product of secularism and acting like the Taliban has never ended well for anyone

Religious animus was covered in the prior ruling.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Rule 1: The higher the fewer.
Rule 2: Never meet unreason with reason
Rule 3: This is a community of elf simulator enthusiasts
Rule 4: The odds you have a valid chance to use yer reason here are slim to fucking none.

[Origen]

Yeah it ain't lost on me that it's conservatives who say "strucutral racism isn't real" and then praise this shit

[Nibblewitz]

Structural racism is real.

Look at the demographics of aborted children.

Look at the learning differences when the schools shut down.

Look at the welfare system and the illegitimacy rate.

Stop getting Wizard of Oz’d and look behind the curtain.

[Origen]

I don't take advice from fascists

[Nibblewitz]

Intellectual fascism is still fascism.

[arvidez]

Structural racism is real.

Look at the demographics of aborted children.

Look at the learning differences when the schools shut down.

Look at the welfare system and the illegitimacy rate.

Stop getting Wizard of Oz’d and look behind the curtain.

malinformation

[Nibblewitz]

malinformation

AKA inconvenient truths

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

malinformation

hehe. /thread tbh.

[Origen]

Words are weapons and weapons are also weapons

[Homesteaded]

Look at the demographics of aborted children.

Culture

Look at the learning differences when the schools shut down.

Culture

Look at the welfare system and the illegitimacy rate.

Culture

Stop getting Wizard of Oz’d and look behind the curtain.

*looks behind curtain* ... Culture

[Origen]

And they get mad when I call them fascists, ffs...

God is dead and America killed him

[Patriam1066]

And they get mad when I call them fascists, ffs...

God is dead and America killed him

America is better than 99% of countries man, we make progress all the time. It’s just slow and difficult

[Origen]

What if we made progress because we murdered God?

[Patriam1066]

What if God is alive and well?

[Origen]

Then I am asking him to destroy the machinery of capitalism and save us from each other

[Crepido]

could always just go live in a socialist or communist country if you hate the US that much. sounds like you really despise it /shrug

[TheBardo]

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Hey Elizondo! How’s that last brain cell of yours doin? Still hangin in there?

[Origen]

could always just go live in a socialist or communist country if you hate the US that much. sounds like you really despise it /shrugNo, thank you, it's precisely because I love my fellow Americans that I work to make America socialist

[Nibblewitz]

But socialism is antithetical to the pursuit of happiness. You are wasting your time unless you are tricking voters.

[Lune]

If you sell your labor to survive you are the loser in a capitalist* system, and are arguing for a system in which the children of rich people warm themselves around a fire where you are the wood.

*Some level of market economics is good, the complete absence of any regulation or morality underlying the market is not.

[Origen]

But socialism is antithetical to the pursuit of happiness. You are wasting your time unless you are tricking voters.Look, Ooloo, it's pure conjecture with no basis in fact exactly like you were going on about a few days ago. I expect you to correct this person accordingly, thanks in advance

[Nibblewitz]

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out (in)
Don't you know it's gonna be
All right?
Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)
Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're all doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)
Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)
Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)
You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We'd all love to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)
Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)
Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)
All, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all right
All right, all right, all right, all right, all right

[Origen]

Still no Ooloo, huh?

Damn, pretty selective outrage. I wonder why

[Ooloo]

Still no Ooloo, huh?

Damn, pretty selective outrage. I wonder why

Man I don't read the forums all day. Just most of it.

So what is the issue here? Socialism? Yeah it sucks. Please see the mountains of skulls littered throughout history.

Capitalism isn't perfect either, but that's hardly surprising. It's kind of a pick your poison dilemma. Do you prefer the socialist mountain of skulls or the capitalist mountain of skulls? At least in capitalism you have a shot at not being miserable forever; socialist countries ensure that everyone is equally poor and miserable. That's why they can't exist for more than five or ten years tops before people get sick of it and revolt.

[Origen]

Very. CUTE. that you pretend to misunderstand the question to avoid addressing my point

No wonder you won't dare "debate"

[Lune]

socialist countries ensure that everyone is equally poor and miserable.

You realize you live in a socialist country as much as a capitalist one, right? Unions, paid vacation, sick leave, OSHA, 40 hour work week, overtime, minimum wage (back when it existed in a meaningful form), child labor laws, worker's comp, maternity leave, etc etc all exist because Marxism used to be all the rage before government was reconquered by reactionaries. It was so in vogue it was even adopted by fascists (national socialism).

I also love the underlying complete lack of logic in saying the following:

-Hard socialism has only been tried in poor shithole countries
-Therefore socialism = poor lol

And:

-People who support certain socialist, pro-worker positions literally want factory workers to own the means of production and make the US like Maoist China

[Ooloo]

You realize you live in a socialist country as much as a capitalist one, right? Unions, paid vacation, sick leave, OSHA, 40 hour work week, overtime, minimum wage (back when it existed in a meaningful form), child labor laws, worker's comp, maternity leave, etc etc all exist because Marxism used to be all the rage before government was reconquered by reactionaries. It was so in vogue it was even adopted by fascists (national socialism).

I also love the underlying complete lack of logic in saying the following:

-Hard socialism has only been tried in poor shithole countries
-Therefore socialism = poor lol

And:

-People who support certain socialist, pro-worker positions literally want factory workers to own the means of production and make the US like Maoist China

Yes, there are sensible uses of the term "socialism". Nobody has a problem with maintaining roads or whatever. Taxpayers (the proletariat, if that helps) do often have an issue with needless wasting of their money though.

This is why people like AOC and Bernie are so galling to most people; they reap the rewards of capitalism while spitting on it, and telling poor people that being rich is evil.

[Rager and Quitter]

How do you fix a culture that glorifies drug use, assault and murder, disrespecting women, and going to prison like it's some badge of honor? The same culture totally devalues the need for education, hard work, or being socially and economically responsible.

Lots of effort including governmental programs try to treat symptoms, but never root causes. Well meaning people look past the fatal flaws of this culture shifting the blame away from the individual, and onto others outside the culture as if they perpetuate it extrinsically.

[Lune]

How do you fix a culture that glorifies drug use, assault and murder, disrespecting women, and going to prison like it's some badge of honor? The same culture totally devalues the need for education, hard work, or being socially and economically responsible.

Lots of effort including governmental programs try to treat symptoms, but never root causes. Well meaning people look past the fatal flaws of this culture shifting the blame away from the individual, and onto others outside the culture as if they perpetuate it extrinsically.

That's an awfully harsh way to talk about January 6thers

[Rager and Quitter]

That's an awfully harsh way to talk about January 6thers

I honestly don't know what that means, but if they espouse what I was mentioning then they are also part of the problem. That culture is not given to any single group of people. I bet you I can go to any major city and find someone of every skin color that is part of that insidious culture, and it has no place in modern society.

[aussenseiter]

You realize you live in a socialist country as much as a capitalist one, right? Unions, paid vacation, sick leave, OSHA, 40 hour work week, overtime, minimum wage (back when it existed in a meaningful form), child labor laws, worker's comp, maternity leave, etc etc all exist because Marxism used to be all the rage before government was reconquered by reactionaries. It was so in vogue it was even adopted by fascists (national socialism).

-Hard socialism has only been tried in poor shithole countries
-Therefore socialism = poor lol

And:

-People who support certain socialist, pro-worker positions literally want factory workers to own the means of production and make the US like Maoist China

Without LTOV backing it, it's a farce.

https://i.imgur.com/BAgB6hT.png

[Trexller]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Fimages%2Fg%2F9BIA AOSwWixgOTQ5%2Fs-l500.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0510ef3e7c7cdd9175cb01efde3de53c6c71998e5120e2 6bb5927a77c73e36f6&ipo=images

[Botten]

Every time a GOP voters says Republicans fight socialism in America. So good!

mR6Kx0C498A

[Origen]

Making reactionary conservatives blatantly lie to avoid being wrong is how we create content around here.

Love to see these fellas reveal how empty their ideology is. Ooloo really doesn't do his own thinking, he just regurgitates whatever Ben Shapiro places in his mind.

[TheBardo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fz6DZzcWIAEr6hB?format=jpg&name=large

[Ooloo]

Making reactionary conservatives blatantly lie to avoid being wrong is how we create content around here.

Love to see these fellas reveal how empty their ideology is. Ooloo really doesn't do his own thinking, he just regurgitates whatever Ben Shapiro places in his mind.

Lol I've repeatedly stated that I used to be a huge lib and then gradually became more moderate. Precisely because I thought about stuff and listened to arguments and decided which ones I found most persuasive. Conservatives just make much more coherent and persuasive arguments these days, sorry about that. Take it up with your lib comrades who think dudes can get pregnant or whatever.

[Origen]

By "persuasive arguments" he means they exploit his bigotry to get him to act against his own interests, but he won't let himself perceive that, of course

[Ooloo]

By "persuasive arguments" he means they exploit his bigotry to get him to act against his own interests, but he won't let himself perceive that, of course

Whatever you say man. You have all the answers!

[Origen]

The point is, smart guy, that you have none. Feel free to show me a "persuasive argument" on the issue of your choice so I can shit all over it

[Ooloo]

The point is, smart guy, that you have none. Feel free to show me a "persuasive argument" on the issue of your choice so I can shit all over it

Sure! Kids can't consent to taking puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones, which cause permanent changes to their biology, for the same reason they can't consent to all the other stuff they can't consent to.

Change my mind!

[Origen]

No, smart guy, you're trying to change my mind, you're doing this backwards again. You have to convince me into a conservative opinion, using facts and logic

All you have to offer, once again, is opinions.

Tell me why that practice should be outlawed.

[Origen]

I can feed my kid one dozen Whoppers, daily. No doctors need be involved.

Should we outlaw that?

[Elizondo]

Imagine thinking eating a hamburger is like cutting off your johnson

[Ooloo]

I can feed my kid one dozen Whoppers, daily. No doctors need be involved.

Should we outlaw that?

Uh actually you can't I'm pretty sure that would violate laws regarding neglect and welfare, but at worst they'd just get really fat. You aren't cutting off healthy bodyparts and\or rendering them sterile for life by feeding them whoppers.

Kids can't consent to taking puberty blockers and hormones because they aren't old enough to understand the long-term implications of their actions. Even if you inform them of the risks, they are in no position to understand or grasp the long-term impact it might have on their life, because their ability to consider the future hasn't even begun to develop. This is no different than the rationale for laws against pedophilia, which I'm assuming you support just like all sane people do.

[Elizondo]

Uh actually you can't I'm pretty sure that would violate laws regarding neglect and welfare, but at worst they'd just get really fat. You aren't cutting off healthy bodyparts and\or rendering them sterile for life by feeding them whoppers.

Kids can't consent to taking puberty blockers and hormones because they aren't old enough to understand the long-term implications of their actions. Even if you inform them of the risks, they are in no position to understand or grasp the long-term impact it might have on their life, because their ability to consider the future hasn't even begun to develop. This is no different than the rationale for laws against pedophilia, which I'm assuming you support just like all sane people do.

We don't tell people with Schizophrenia that the voices in their head are real

[Ooloo]

We don't tell people with Schizophrenia that the voices in their head are real

Exactly, but ben shapiro made that point so therefor it doesn't count or something

[Origen]

I remain unconvinced, tell me why the state should intervene and prevent my family from making this choice in this completely fabricated premise

No links, no experts weighing in on the matters, just... thoughts so far. Ho hum.

[Origen]

We don't tell people with Schizophrenia that the voices in their head are real"the angels told me to do it"

[Ooloo]

I remain unconvinced, tell me why the state should intervene and prevent my family from making this choice in this completely fabricated premise

No links, no experts weighing in on the matters, just... thoughts so far. Ho hum.

The same reason your family can't "make the choice" to let your kid get a tattoo. The same reason you can't hire a doctor to cut your leg off just because you "identify" as having one leg. There's this thing called medical ethics and the hippocratic oath.

Gender dysphoria is a barely understood nascent field of medicine, yet "treatments" for it are rolled out at light speed. This is like doctors who used to perform lobotomies for depression; the experts said it was a great idea at the time!

[Elizondo]

The same reason your family can't "make the choice" to let your kid get a tattoo. The same reason you can't hire a doctor to cut your leg off just because you "identify" as having one leg. There's this thing called medical ethics and the hippocratic oath.

Gender dysphoria is a barely understood nascent field of medicine, yet "treatments" for it are rolled out at light speed. This is like doctors who used to perform lobotomies for depression; the experts said it was a great idea at the time!

What happens if these kids decide they don't want to be 'trans' anymore?

I used to like Punk Rock when I was a kid and then I got into Metal

[Origen]

Still not one link, not one expert, just opinions

Just more of the very same conjecture you were moaning about when someone else did it

I give up trying to get anything resembling facts out of this clown

[Rager and Quitter]

It's alarming that people support children deciding to cut their dicks off. I mean, step back from that and think about a child surgically removing part of their body and everyone's like, "great job, kiddo".

[Nibblewitz]

Universal basic income synergizes well with body integrity dysphoria. Could be the pro strat in the socialist regime.

[Origen]

We don't blink when it's a circumcision, but we do when it's female genital mutilation.

Should we prevent circumcision using the power of the state?

[Ooloo]

We don't blink when it's a circumcision, but we do when it's female genital mutilation.

Should we prevent circumcision using the power of the state?

Yes! Finally we agree.

[Origen]

We don't agree, Ooloo, your reading comprehension is just that bad

[Ooloo]

I mean the circumcision example is particularly ironic. Libs oppose it because it's a religious practice and those stupid old religious people are just butchering healthy children for no reason!

But then they also say: Hey if your five year old likes dolls or something you should probably consider entirely removing his genitals, dressing him like a girl and feeding him drugs that will prevent the natural development of his body!

Like uhhhhh, I think I'm gonna stick with the old fashioned religious dudes if those are my options.

[Nibblewitz]

The benefits of circumcision are marginal now in terms of mitigating infections, but was probably the wise thing to do in the absence of decent hygiene.

[magnetaress]

so what are yall going to do if trump wins/doesn't win? (lol)

[magnetaress]

Universal basic income synergizes well with body integrity dysphoria. Could be the pro strat in the socialist regime.

Universal basic income is rations for the poor because it's cheaper and more facebook friendly than running death camps. You will still get tetnus and die from HIV and HepC and drug ODs

[Rager and Quitter]

I'm cool with giving up circumcision if you'll give up cutting off teenage girls tits and teenage boys dicks and balls.

[Origen]

Still waiting on anyone to provide experts, facts, reasons why the state should have an interventional role on this one issue and not a laundry list of similar issues

Not opinions, facts

[Nibblewitz]

There’s plenty of research touting the benefits of foreskin removal, although the benefits are limited in developed nations because of hygiene. Not sure there’s any health benefit to chemical or physical sterilization. Perhaps it benefits the gene pool.

[Ooloo]

Still waiting on anyone to provide experts, facts, reasons why the state should have an interventional role on this one issue and not a laundry list of similar issues

Not opinions, facts

Here's a fact: suicide rates don't decrease for people who get these completely experimental procedures.

Here's another fact: most kids who express gender confusion grow out of it if you just leave them alone

Considering just those two facts, I think it's obviously completely insane to do this to anyone.

[Origen]

Not facts, just opinions, next please

[Origen]

None of you can explain this objectively because you are afraid of getting banned for hate speech and that is fucking hilarious

[Trexller]

None of you can explain this objectively because you are afraid of getting banned for hate speech and that is fucking hilarious

if it is not obvious to you why genital mutilation and child abuse is a bad thing, then no amount of fact and explanation is going to help you.

you are broken in the head and soul in such a manner that cannot be repaired.

[Botten]

if it is not obvious to you why genital mutilation and child abuse is a bad thing, then no amount of fact and explanation is going to help you.

you are broken in the head and soul in such a manner that cannot be repaired.

Depression from gender dysphoria is very real. Gender reassignment after the correct psychological evaluation and consent from parents could save a child's life. You can paint anything in the wrong light with the wrong context.

On lookers should not make this decision nor take others freedoms because it offends them or their religion. Haven't we done this enough to woman?

[Trexller]

Depression from gender dysphoria is very real.

you are incorrect my friend. mental illness and separately, "Just being a kid" is real. children are constantly inundated with hormonal fluctuations.

and some kids think that because superman wears a cape and flies around, that tieing a bath towel around their neck will save them when they jump from a window.

Tide pot challenge

skull cracker challenge

benadryl challenge

15 Dangerous & Downright Dumb TikTok Challenges (https://cafemom.com/parenting/dangerous-titok-challenges)

and you lefty morons think children are of sound enough mind to mutilate their bodies based on mood swings.

kids are idiots, and are not capable of making permanent life changing decisions for themselves.

once again, if this is not blatantly obvious to you, then you are broken in the head and soul in such a manner that cannot be repaired

no amount of facts or discussion will fix you.

you cannot be helped.

like all societal trends and fads, this too shall pass.

[Origen]

The 30 something manboy who has to lie to people to get them to spend time with him is lecturing us on social behavior, lol

[aussenseiter]

https://i.imgur.com/njPlqGq.png

[Nibblewitz]

With these levels of butthurt, a gender reassignment might be the only path to coherence and sanity.

[Trexller]

The 30 something manboy who has to lie to people to get them to spend time with him is lecturing us on social behavior, lol

if this is about me, then i don't get it

please elaborate

[aussenseiter]

With these levels of butthurt, a gender reassignment might be the only path to coherence and sanity.

Let's not ask the experts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Experts

[Trexller]

Georges Fjord

https://e3.365dm.com/23/06/768x432/skynews-france-police_6201435.jpg?20230628130818
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Take notes Libtards, THIS is how you protest:

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[Rager and Quitter]

It's even more telling when a group is so emotionally and mentally disturbed and fragile that you can't even talk about it because their feelings have to be protected at all costs. My 4 year old jumped into bed this morning with my wife and I and said "I want to be a wife!" So we're having his dick cut off tomorrow and a sweet pair of double D's sewn on. He's old enough to decide what he wants for breakfast, so we figure he's old enough to decide anything else.

Do I get any woke points for this? Looking for some lefty praise to convince me it isn't child abuse. Thanks in advance!

[Patriam1066]

Depression from gender dysphoria is very real. Gender reassignment after the correct psychological evaluation and consent from parents could save a child's life. You can paint anything in the wrong light with the wrong context.

On lookers should not make this decision nor take others freedoms because it offends them or their religion. Haven't we done this enough to woman?

How do you know this? I have three kids and no child should ever be given any autonomy in any decision ever for any reason. Children are fucking stupid. If you let them, they’d eat funyuns all day and be obese lard asses doing nothing. Give them books and beatings

This is the way

[Origen]

https://i.imgur.com/njPlqGq.pngI'm on a mission and I will continue to use their rhetorical tools against them until I get sick of this shit again, ban myself, and reset the cycle

[magnetaress]

Tell your kid to cook dinner and clean the bathrooms and do the laundry and everything if they tell you they want to be a wife. Careful tho! Some kids like that shit ! :p

[Rager and Quitter]

I'm on a mission and I will continue to use their rhetorical tools against them until I get sick of this shit again, ban myself, and reset the cycle

Oh, troll confirmed. I should have guessed lol. No one smart enough to feed themselves earnestly believes the shit you're spouting. Damn, lol, you got me good.

[Botten]

Oh, troll confirmed. I should have guessed lol. No one smart enough to feed themselves earnestly believes the shit you're spouting. Damn, lol, you got me good.

The irony... literally your second post on your account.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3619499&postcount=2

[Rager and Quitter]

The irony... literally your second post on your account.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3619499&postcount=2

I have like over a hundred posts on the account, which is my only forum account. Not sure why you think I've only posted twice lol!

[Rager and Quitter]

The irony... literally your second post on your account.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3619499&postcount=2

Double post: I just clicked on my profile, 353 posts total. Dunno what you're looking at. When I click on "see all posts by me or whatever" that's what I see.

[aussenseiter]

The irony... literally your second post on your account.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3619499&postcount=2

That's a thread goofus. He posted the second post in that thread.

1151 (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3622576&postcount=1151)

[arvidez]

https://i.imgur.com/njPlqGq.png

literally true. if you aren't speaking the other's language...

recognize and validate their illusion, then walk through it in front of them. what else can you do?

[Ooloo]

Depression from gender dysphoria is very real. Gender reassignment after the correct psychological evaluation and consent from parents could save a child's life. You can paint anything in the wrong light with the wrong context.


What is the "correct psychological evaluation" for this? You seem to have a quasi-religious faith that there's some abstract expert somewhere who totally understands this and isn't just trying to make easy money off the backs of kids going through the same growing pains everyone else has since forever.

Let's just assume that's true though, maybe you can actually help a very very narrow set of people using these totally unproven and untested "treatments".

In the meantime, you're doing irreversible harm to all the other guinea pigs you're testing this shit on (for five or six figures btw; nice chunk of change!) who would have turned out completely fine if you just left them alone.

I'm not sure who is more awful in this whole mess; doctors who administer these treatments to minors or the loon parents who basically use their kids to ornament themselves with progressive bonifides.

Check out my non-binary-gender-non-conforming six year old! This was totally his idea!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

What if we made progress because we murdered God?

Modern World 101

Define existence as a consequence of a logical construct
Invent coordinate geometry
Also prove God exists, using a logical construct
Church goes YAY. Church is the Washington Generals of "guessing what's gonna happen."
Wait a few centuries
you are here.

You want to see the face of a guy who knows what he is doing?
https://i.imgur.com/D9NHoIM.jpg

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

What is the "correct psychological evaluation" for this? You seem to have a quasi-religious faith that there's some abstract expert somewhere who totally understands this and isn't just trying to make easy money off the backs of kids going through the same growing pains everyone else has since forever.

Let's just assume that's true though, maybe you can actually help a very very narrow set of people using these totally unproven and untested "treatments".

In the meantime, you're doing irreversible harm to all the other guinea pigs you're testing this shit on (for five or six figures btw; nice chunk of change!) who would have turned out completely fine if you just left them alone.

I'm not sure who is more awful in this whole mess; doctors who administer these treatments to minors or the loon parents who basically use their kids to ornament themselves with progressive bonifides.

Check out my non-binary-gender-non-conforming six year old! This was totally his idea!

ok. fair enough, regarding "minors or the loon parents" set you mark out:


why do you care about errant medicine so much? Or, maybe really fucking weird parents? What numbers are you actually entertaining in your mind at that point?
are you imagining +/- .001 of the population in these specific situations you are defining or pointing out?


Like just the first one alone. What? Are you a consumer advocate? Or the last one. Take these miracles of modern medicine, what numbers are in you had here?

Because this is like an entire thread about dandruff shampoos, and you have it figured out, and you know some flakes actually aren't flakes but signs of potential irritation, and that is a valid post, but then you tie it into some general spirit of malice, led by the dandruff shampoo "industry" or "mafia" and then whoooosh, it's like the wormhole sequence in Contact, off you go, post after post.

But we end up here, on this open beach. Every single time. But you never see it that way. "That's bullshit!" you always yell. And then you're gone.

[Ooloo]

Sadre I have no god damn idea what you're saying

[aussenseiter]

Or, maybe really fucking weird parents?


How come parents get to decide sometimes but don't get to decide othertimes?

Are they only domestic terrorists in the latter but somehow not in the former?

[arvidez]

The 30 something manboy who has to lie to people to get them to spend time with him is lecturing us on social behavior, lol

you wouldnt have cast a stone. you woulda mocked the filthy woman.

we dont believe kids are impressionable anymore?

[arvidez]

Sadre I have no god damn idea what you're saying

then maybe he stumbled onto some of your blind spots.


it is his usual diarrhea, so you should be able to read it

[Botten]

Â…
In the meantime, you're doing irreversible harm to all the other guinea pigs you're testing this shit on (for five or six figures btw; nice chunk of change!) who would have turned out completely fine if you just left them alone.

I'm not sure who is more awful in this whole mess; doctors who administer these treatments to minors or the loon parents who basically use their kids to ornament themselves with progressive bonifides.

Check out my non-binary-gender-non-conforming six year old! This was totally his idea!

We already went over this on page 81 of this thread.

The first transgender surgery took place in 1952.
and the drugs have been around since the 1980s.

…Therapies that have been around more than 40 years are not so experimental.

The only one hurling generic insults or spreading hate are those that want to take more freedoms away from a select group, yet again.

Young Children Do Not Receive Medical Gender Transition Treatment (https://www.factcheck.org/2023/05/scicheck-young-children-do-not-receive-medical-gender-transition-treatment/)

Stop consulting your podcast echo chambers swindling you on phone plans.

Oh and here is some information from a medical news today.

Transgender surgery can improve life for most, study confirms (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321258)

Don’t be a sheep. It has already been said over a hundred times the GOP never had problems with trans individuals until they needed something to re-energize their Christian voter base. It is so sad.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Sadre I have no god damn idea what you're saying

I find that oddly uplifting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOjHhS5MtvA
rOjHhS5MtvA

[Ooloo]

We already went over this on page 81 of this thread.



Young Children Do Not Receive Medical Gender Transition Treatment (https://www.factcheck.org/2023/05/scicheck-young-children-do-not-receive-medical-gender-transition-treatment/)

Stop consulting your podcast echo chambers swindling you on phone plans.

Oh and here is some information from a medical news today.

Transgender surgery can improve life for most, study confirms (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321258)

Don’t be a sheep. It has already been said over a hundred times the GOP never had problems with trans individuals until they needed something to re-energize their Christian voter base. It is so sad.

Hahaha okay. So, it's totally not happening to kids, in which case, I guess there's no reason to oppose laws that restrict it happening to kids, right? Yet the activists stridently oppose any such laws! Gee why would they oppose laws restricting something that never happens? This is a toughie!

You say this isn't happening to kids, yet the biden whitehouse insists that "gender affirming care for minors" is some kind of sacred human right. But... I thought it doesn't happen to kids? Do you see the blatant contradiction and incoherence on display here?

It's possible that "medicalnewstoday" and "factcheck.org" have social and political sympathies that they rabidly defend, under the guise that they are somehow impartial. They're not.

[Ooloo]

Oh and btw yes I know that drugs used to chemically castrate sex offenders have been around for decades. They just haven't been given to children for decades you lunatic.

"Guys radiation therapy for cancer patients has been around for decades! Therefor any use of it at all is medically sound!" -something botten probably really thinks

[Rager and Quitter]

If you're over 18 and you want to cut your dick off or jump off a bridge or become a quadruple amputee, cool. But giving hormone fuckery drugs to little kids to fuck with their normal development is fucked up if you think about it, considering kids change their minds and interests daily. Let a little bit play with girls toys or dress like a girl or whatever they want until they're 18, but don't cut their dicks off when they're teenagers or give them hormones when they're adolescents.

[Botten]

Oh and btw yes I know that drugs used to chemically castrate sex offenders have been around for decades. They just haven't been given to children for decades you lunatic.

"Guys radiation therapy for cancer patients has been around for decades! Therefor any use of it at all is medically sound!" -something botten probably really thinks

Sadly you in fact are victim of misinformation fed to you by your consulting echo chamber podcasts. It is very sad because you, yourself admit you don't do research but only wait for others to do it for you.

You are in fact brainwashed.

Here is a government site showing you are wrong:
https://ldh.la.gov/assets/docs/LegisReports/HR158_2022RS_LDHReport.pdf

... there were no surgical procedures
performed on Medicaid-enrolled children under the age of 18 for the purposes of gender reassignment,
and there were also no providers identified who were performing surgical procedures...

Furthermore medication was not given to anyone younger than 10 years old after they were diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria on page 8.

The study goes back as far as 2017.

GOP voter base never had problems with trans individuals until the conservative politicians needed something to re-energize their Christian voter base.

Like your grifting phone plans pushed by your conservative radio entertainers you have been manipulated.

[Castle2.0]

Hey guys, write multiple paragraphs to convince me of your opinion. I am the final arbiter of truth and if I am not convinced, I am objectively still right.

Also, I will respond in 1 sentence to your multiple paragraphs.

I am a reasonable man. This is a fun game....

People comparing cutting off a johnson to eating hambeegees... Don't bother reasoning with such a fool.

[Trexller]

Hey guys, write multiple paragraphs to convince me of your opinion. I am the final arbiter of truth and if I am not convinced, I am objectively still right.

Also, I will respond in 1 sentence to your multiple paragraphs.

I am a reasonable man. This is a fun game....

People comparing cutting off a johnson to eating hambeegees... Don't bother reasoning with such a fool.

White people are idiots.

No other race sits around and tries to decide on their own what is best for everyone else.

[aussenseiter]

Here is a government site showing you are wrong:
https://ldh.la.gov/assets/docs/LegisReports/HR158_2022RS_LDHReport.pdf



Furthermore medication was not given to anyone younger than 10 years old after they were diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria on page 8.



That's one state bozinator.

Here is a map since we're being so glib.

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I don't know what your problem is with setting the goalposts at 10 year olds, but gooooaaal de Ooooollloooooo

[aussenseiter]

stridently

[complimentary post toward your vocabulary growth not to be taken as agreement or assent]

Good job!

[Botten]

Hahaha okay. So, it's totally not happening to kids, in which case, I guess there's no reason to oppose laws that restrict it happening to kids, right? Yet the activists stridently oppose any such laws! Gee why would they oppose laws restricting something that never happens? This is a toughie!

So after giving focused governmental data that refutes your argument that minors are not receiving sex changes; coupled with no instance of this happening in the US....

I am curious whether you understand that restricts on gender care for minors would affect ambiguous genitalia operations. Are you aware how it would be important for doctors to have the right to work on a minor with a less defined or complication in their gender after birth?

[Trexller]

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[aussenseiter]

So after giving focused governmental data that refutes your argument that minors are not receiving sex changes; coupled with no instance of this happening in the US....

I am curious whether you understand that restricts on gender care for minors would affect ambiguous genitalia operations. Are you aware how it would be important for doctors to have the right to work on a minor with a less defined or complication in their gender after birth?

It's not happening, and if it is, it's only a technicality.

No, there aren't more now than there should be.

[Botten]

It's not happening, and if it is, it's only a technicality.

No, there aren't more now than there should be.

For the last few years births in America have been around 3.5 million+ a year in the US.

Statistically speaking it is valid to the discussion of gender care for minors.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births

[Rager and Quitter]

So after giving focused governmental data that refutes your argument that minors are not receiving sex changes; coupled with no instance of this happening in the US....

I am curious whether you understand that restricts on gender care for minors would affect ambiguous genitalia operations. Are you aware how it would be important for doctors to have the right to work on a minor with a less defined or complication in their gender after birth?

You showed data that represents Medicaid recipients, meaning children that are receiving medical benefits throug governmental programs for locijg in governmental set levels of poverty. Well no shit. The government isn't going to cover that shit because those surgeries are expensive. Even if you pretend that cutting someone body up makes them a different gender (which it doesn't, glad I could clarify that for you) the government isn't going to pay thousands and thousands of dollars for some indigent kids plastic surgery to remove body parts. I work with Medicaid and they don't/won't pay for shit, especially some super expensive, elective surgery. The broader issue is that this is happening to teenagers (which are children by the way, glad I could clarify that for you) with other coverage besides Medicaid and hormone therapies to fucking 10 year olds.

[magnetaress]

For the last few years births in America have been around 3.5 million+ a year in the US.

Statistically speaking it is valid to the discussion of gender care for minors.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births

These stats don't matter to ppl who shouldn't have the benifit of a modern government and civil infrastructure because they can't do it themselves, therefore have zero personal responsability. Aka put them all in texas and let them fight it out with Mexico.

Those are some mighty big words feller.

also p.s. doctors use to force surgical intervation on infants and young children when shit was fucky physiologically and not mentally. that is a bad policy to.

[Origen]

Hey guys, write multiple paragraphs to convince me of your opinion. I am the final arbiter of truth and if I am not convinced, I am objectively still right.

Also, I will respond in 1 sentence to your multiple paragraphs.

I am a reasonable man. This is a fun game....

People comparing cutting off a johnson to eating hambeegees... Don't bother reasoning with such a fool.They really shrivel like the worms they are when you feed them their own medicine

[Lune]

Man whatever happened to that glorious mod hammer

[Ekco]

Man whatever happened to that glorious mod hammer

>walks in and nukes the thread with a bajillion views and posts going back years.
>doesn't elaborate.
>leaves.

mods are basically honey badgers.
KxLgVpiQGr8

[Botten]

You showed data that represents Medicaid recipients, meaning children that are receiving medical benefits throug governmental programs for locijg in governmental set levels of poverty. Well no shit. The government isn't going to cover that shit because those surgeries are expensive.

Ah but look at the study again chosen because it was published by the government for validation.

Teenagers did receive sex change operation under gender care provided. I think it is exactly the information conservatives were looking for. The do care where the money is coming for this.

I just think it sets off conservatives because the echo chambers they listened to say this gender care was being provided by these services while those suffering from gender dysphoria were minors. But the study found no facility offering such surgeries to minors. Conservatives again were being lied to by the same grifters selling them phone plans.

These sex changes surgeries have been provided to teens suffer from gender dysphoria for a while.

As iterated before, GOP politicians only recently have been simply revving their Christian voter base to re-energize them with the current poor state of confidence in the Conservative Party. Essentially they need sheep who don’t question.

[Nibblewitz]

I think the religious revival on the right is in response to the gender ideology being pushed on kids. The religiosity has always been there but segments of society are recoiling as school kids are taking field trips to drag shows and almost every media is promoting and celebrating it.

What's really sad is that the transgender movement went full retard. Instead of seeking acceptance they wanted social promotion and celebration, but now they will likely get nothing.

[Origen]

What's really sad is that the transgender movement went full retard. Instead of seeking acceptance they wanted social promotion and celebration, but now they will likely get nothing.What's funny is that this reactionary fellow doesn't seem to perceive the irony in this statement he is making about the transgender movement.... as he endorses fascism yet again

Self-awareness: not a strong suit

[unsunghero]

What's really sad is that the transgender movement went full retard. Instead of seeking acceptance they wanted social promotion and celebration, but now they will likely get nothing.

I don’t think celebration was something they asked for, but it was something they received regardless

And that conditions them to want to talk about it more. Talk about it, receive praise, repeat

Also, I hear that Muslim and old school Catholic Hispanic communities push back against it while probably still be registered left. And I’m not expert on black culture, but due to what I perceive as a macho and hypermasculine attitude especially among young black men from poor communities, they would push back against it as well

I paid attention to many of the reports of assault of trans people, and they were often from the black community to black trans people

[Origen]

The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you don't listen to it, you will never know what justice is - Zinn

[Rager and Quitter]

Ah but look at the study again chosen because it was published by the government.

I think there is too much room for error and incompetence when it comes to these things. I have known several people over the course of my life with mental health issues and the counselors and doctors they went to made things objectively worse for them, because their care is only as good as their provider. And having managed physicians and clinics for almost a decade, I can say that there are lots of really poor quality physicians out there.

Not to mention self reported data is not nearly as ironclad as we'd like to believe, but tangential.

That being said, I rarely support legislation that limits personal freedoms that don't infringe on the rights of others, but I will share my opinions as much as I please, and I think that because young people are trying to navigate so many facets of growing up, I err on the side of caution. I think it's incredibly shortsighted to allow children the right to make permanent, life-altering medical decisions during a time when they are still developing. I've read dozens of (admittedly anecdotal) stories of people who had serious regrets about transitioning at a young age and the haphazard process they went through, and now are stuck with irreversible changes. Granted there are probably a lot of people that transition and are perfectly happy until the day they die, but I'd much rather see that occur when those individuals become adults, than targeted efforts at them when they are fucking 10 years old. When I was 10 years old, I was a moron. Heaven forbid I was given the opportunity to make some massive life decision at that age. It's just fucked up.

[Origen]

I certainly hope the next big culture war republicans take on is male circumcision, it's far more common than trans and almost nobody consents to it

[Rager and Quitter]

I certainly hope the next big culture war republicans take on is male circumcision, it's far more common than trans and almost nobody consents to it

We can be done with circumcision, but if that's your argument, its a weak one. You might be removing some skin, but the penis is fully functional, and might even be more hygienic anyway. If circumcision removed the whole head of the penis, maybe

[Origen]

Lol

[unsunghero]

I think there is too much room for error and incompetence when it comes to these things. I have known several people over the course of my life with mental health issues and the counselors and doctors they went to made things objectively worse for them, because their care is only as good as their provider. And having managed physicians and clinics for almost a decade, I can say that there are lots of really poor quality physicians out there.

Not to mention self reported data is not nearly as ironclad as we'd like to believe, but tangential.

That being said, I rarely support legislation that limits personal freedoms that don't infringe on the rights of others, but I will share my opinions as much as I please, and I think that because young people are trying to navigate so many facets of growing up, I err on the side of caution. I think it's incredibly shortsighted to allow children the right to make permanent, life-altering we medical decisions during a time when they are still developing. I've read dozens of (admittedly anecdotal) stories of people who had serious regrets about transitioning at a young age and the haphazard process they went through, and now are stuck with irreversible changes. Granted there are probably a lot of people that transition and are perfectly happy until the day they die, but I'd much rather see that occur when those individuals become adults, than targeted efforts at them when they are fucking 10 years old. When I was 10 years old, I was a moron. Heaven forbid I was given the opportunity to make some massive life decision at that age. It's just fucked up.

The reason the trans community is so focused on puberty, such as preventing it, is that puberty destroys, or we’ll say in many cases limits, passability. Passability being the ability to completely appear to the public as the cis version of the opposite gender you were born

Passability through preventing puberty matters more to trans women (born men), or at least it should if they were serious about passability, which it seems many trans people are. Trans men (born women) can take test and increase their musculature, but trans women can’t reduce their wider shoulders and more developed skeletal system after puberty

It’s why the swimmer Lia Thomas is not all that objectively passable, no offense, not for lack of trying

[Rager and Quitter]

Lol

Lol, foreskin = remove breasts = splitting your penis in half and making it look like a fucked up vagina = taking some skin and stuff and forming a non-functioning penis

All equal of course

[Origen]

Sorry this stuff grosses you out or something, I suggest not being in the O.R. when the time comes and also stay out of it completely, as it's none of your business in the first place

[aussenseiter]

Lol, foreskin = remove breasts = splitting your penis in half and making it look like a fucked up vagina = taking some skin and stuff and forming a non-functioning penis

All equal of course

Genital piercings fit somewhere in there.

[Rager and Quitter]

Sorry this stuff grosses you out or something, I suggest not being in the O.R. when the time comes and also stay out of it completely, as it's none of your business in the first place

Considering I'm an administrator in a hospital, the OR is very much my business :)

[Origen]

Yeah, I thought that was medical terminology you were using, doctor :rolleyes:

[Rager and Quitter]

Yeah, I thought that was medical terminology you were using, doctor :rolleyes:

Oh, I'm not a doctor, that's quite clear, but you don't have to be a doctor to be an administrator.

[Homesteaded]

These losers still trying to push for 9 year olds to have life altering surgery?

[Botten]

These losers still trying to push for 9 year olds to have life altering surgery?

Keep up. Was shown it doesn’t happen.

Christian voter base got whipped into frenzy thou. But that was always the plan by GOP politicians. What a great flock of sheep.

Unless you are one of those sickos against life altering ambiguous genitalia surgery.

[Origen]

In that case, nothing to worry about from Homesteaded, he doesn't know diddly about being a Christian

[aussenseiter]

In that case, nothing to worry about from Homesteaded, he doesn't know diddly about being a Christian

What if we made progress because we murdered God?

[Origen]

Hey man, I know when a helicopter is crashing. Not how to fly one. I'll call that guy a Christian when I see him promoting love and not hatred.

What you call me is your problem

[Ooloo]

Hey man, I know when a helicopter is crashing. Not how to fly one. I'll call that guy a Christian when I see him promoting love and not hatred.

What you call me is your problem

Christians don't just automatically love everything lol. I'm an atheist and even I know that.

"Loving everything" is like some new agey hippie space bullshit.

[Origen]

One person who promotes hatred defending another that does so, wow!

[Ooloo]

One person who promotes hatred defending another that does so, wow!

Dude I hear more hatred coming from you than literally anyone else on the forum, give me a break. Every post is some litany of grievances and all manner of just awful things about gigantic swaths of the population. You're like the angriest asshole ever.

[Elizondo]

Dude I hear more hatred coming from you than literally anyone else on the forum, give me a break. Every post is some litany of grievances and all manner of just awful things about gigantic swaths of the population. You're like the angriest asshole ever.

He's also the most racist yet he abuses that smear more than anyone else here too

[Origen]

These are just posts you weeping weenies, imagine how nice I am in real life

Butthurt fascists can't handle a little critique, lol

[Rager and Quitter]

I sometimes wonder if we are far far too liberal with the use of "fascist", "racist", "bigot", or "nazi" as to destroy any real meaning or impact of the words.

[Botten]

I sometimes wonder if we are far far too liberal with the use of "fascist", "racist", "bigot", or "nazi" as to destroy any real meaning or impact of the words.

I hear pretending they don’t exist gets you another January 6th. I mean white supremacy groups were there. Now why are they always attracted to the GOP party?

[Ooloo]

I hear pretending they don’t exist gets you another January 6th. I mean white supremacy groups were there. Now why are they always attracted to the GOP party?

They aren't.

Did you know people who hate republicans can buy nazi flags and show up to their campaign events and yell "Hey guys look at me I'm totally a super huge nazi and I love republicans lol!". And then the media you consume laps it up and we continue living in clown world where everyone thinks its still 1942.

You might have noticed when this happens, the right wing people at those events kick the "nazis" out and tell them to fuck off. Why would they do that?

[Trexller]

I hear pretending they don’t exist gets you another January 6th. I mean white supremacy groups were there. Now why are they always attracted to the GOP party?

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[Rager and Quitter]

I hear pretending they don’t exist gets you another January 6th. I mean white supremacy groups were there. Now why are they always attracted to the GOP party?

Oh they exist for sure, but surely not every person that disagrees with you is automatically a fascist or nazi, right?

I've noticed fascist-type characteristics from people on both the right and the left.

[Origen]

I sometimes wonder if we are far far too liberal with the use of "fascist", "racist", "bigot", or "nazi" as to destroy any real meaning or impact of the words.I don't

[Origen]

Why would they do that?Cameras, it's bad optics

[Nibblewitz]

Meanwhile it seems that Secret Service found Hunter's cocaine stash at the White House.

[Origen]

Hopefully they'll share it amongst themselves

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Oh and btw yes I know that drugs used to chemically castrate sex offenders have been around for decades. They just haven't been given to children for decades you lunatic.


Ooloo, do you realize SSRI's commonly cause "chemical castration" as you are speaking of it. Zoloft, Paxil's huge on this front. Lots of kids are taking SSRI's. I highly doubt even teenage hormones can penetrate what a sizeable dose of that does to your sex drive, libido, even how you look at a woman. Let's just say you don't say "Hooo-ah!"

For those further down the timeline, one would be wise to check into your prostate cancer genetics and consider chemical castration via hormone-based medication (my dad is on this) that basically floods the zone, so to speak, with estrogenic elves.

Just like women get their tits cut off, men are gonna do ye ol' hormone shuffle once they really start to isolate prostate cancer genetically. T is your enemy past 40.

Zappa would still be alive and well if this knowledge existed when he was sick with it and dying, fast.

And everything I just said fell into the pool of mud and darkness that is the single neuron that is suspen't by filigreed capillaries to the echoing inside of your skull.

[arvidez]

I hear pretending they don’t exist gets you another January 6th. I mean white supremacy groups were there. Now why are they always attracted to the GOP party?

because dems hate whites, duh

[arvidez]

"do you realize SSRI's commonly cause "chemical castration" as you are speaking of it. Zoloft, Paxil's huge on this front. Lots of kids are taking SSRI's"

they also make you homicidal.

cancer isnt genetic

[Ooloo]

Ooloo, do you realize SSRI's commonly cause "chemical castration" as you are speaking of it. Zoloft, Paxil's huge on this front. Lots of kids are taking SSRI's. I highly doubt even teenage hormones can penetrate what a sizeable dose of that does to your sex drive, libido, even how you look at a woman. Let's just say you don't say "Hooo-ah!"

For those further down the timeline, one would be wise to check into your prostate cancer genetics and consider chemical castration via hormone-based medication (my dad is on this) that basically floods the zone, so to speak, with estrogenic elves.

Just like women get their tits cut off, men are gonna do ye ol' hormone shuffle once they really start to isolate prostate cancer genetically. T is your enemy past 40.

Zappa would still be alive and well if this knowledge existed when he was sick with it and dying, fast.

And everything I just said fell into the pool of mud and darkness that is the single neuron that is suspen't by filigreed capillaries to the echoing inside of your skull.

No I wasn't aware of that, but also if it's true what does that have to do with anything? SSRI's ostensibly have an actual use; to treat depression. I'm extremely skeptical of those drugs, but they're at least being used for their on-label purpose.

Lupron has only one use; to permanently render sex offenders sterile. That's why they give them lupron and not paxil. It's use in "transgender youth" (which I consider a religious term at this point) is completely off-label and experimental, with many european countries now reversing course on all of this insane nonsense.

[Origen]

It's also used to treat prostate cancer, but that definition doesn't serve your agenda so I can see why you ignored it

[Ooloo]

It's also used to treat prostate cancer, but that definition doesn't serve your agenda so I can see why you ignored it

Omfg okay fiiiiiine, it has another use, oh boy!

Does that mean it's okay to give to perfectly healthy kids who say "durr I think I'm a girl!"? No, obviously not you tedious cretin.

[Origen]

That's between them and their doctor, dude, I dunno enough about medicine to try and outlaw any and I don't see why that is so tough of a concept.

[Ooloo]

That's between them and their doctor, dude, I dunno enough about medicine to try and outlaw any and I don't see why that is so tough of a concept.

Doctors aren't magic, they can be wrong about things. Especially when they stand to make hundreds of thousands of dollars from being wrong about those things. Aren't you always ranting about how evil capitalism is? This is exactly a case where I would agree with you that capitalism can be evil, and you're all like "hey whatever their doctor says must be okay cause I aint no scientist!". Get real.

[Origen]

You're telling me you know better than all of these organizations?

American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Dermatology
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Nursing
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Association
American Medical Student Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Public Health Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
GLMA: Health Professionals Advancing LGBTQ Equality
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women's Health
National Association of Social Workers
National Commission on Correctional Health Care
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine
World Medical Association
World Professional Association for Transgender Health

[Ooloo]

You're telling me you know better than all of these organizations?

American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Dermatology
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Nursing
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Association
American Medical Student Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Public Health Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
GLMA: Health Professionals Advancing LGBTQ Equality
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women's Health
National Association of Social Workers
National Commission on Correctional Health Care
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine
World Medical Association
World Professional Association for Transgender Health

Yes. On the super-nuanced issue of whether it's a good idea to chemically sterilize children, yes. I know better than them.

Also you might want to look into the "appeal to authority" fallacy.

[Origen]

Based on the things I've seen you show your ignorance on time and time again, I'm going with the expert opinion, not the filth you've scraped off of whatever white supremacist shit you've been watching.

Keep your debate club terms for the debate club thread you don't have the balls to post

[Ooloo]

Based on the things I've seen you show your ignorance on time and time again, I'm going with the expert opinion, not the filth you've scraped off of whatever white supremacist shit you've been watching.

Keep your debate club terms for the debate club thread you don't have the balls to post

So now I'm a white supremacist for not wanting perfectly healthy kids to be chemically sterilized by quackjob doctors? Lmao whatever you say man.

[Origen]

Nah, just an arrogant blowhard who is obviously insecure about his bigotry.

[aussenseiter]

Cancer drugs are for cancer patients.

Ketamine is for horses.

[aussenseiter]

Eat the gender paste, kids.

[Lune]

Eat the gender paste, kids.

Is that what the priest told you?

[aussenseiter]

Is that what the priest told you?

Off label uses are back in vogue and the same people feel very differently this time.

Parties flipped.

[Crepido]

#ivervectim

hey where horza anyway?

[Botten]

#ivervectim

hey where horza anyway?

He is a hero, not the hero we deserved but the hero we needed.

The Ban hammer took him may his account rest with all the other God like posters in Valhalla!

[Ekco]

i actually bought something from Horza in EC tunnel the other day, he seems happier doing that than discussing politics.

[Elizondo]

#ivervectim

hey where horza anyway?

He's Origen

hth

[Homesteaded]

I'll call that guy a Christian when I see him promoting love and not hatred.

Love doesn't mean telling people with unhealthy ideas that those ideas are normal and beneficial.

This is a separation of thought on the Left and Right. Each side has an idea on how to best help people, they both have merits for certain circumstances. We just disagree on how to best help people in this particular instance.

It seems that the Left, when it comes to gender dysphoria issues, wants to simply open their arms and accept the notion that this is an issue that can only be resolved through surgery and hormone therapy.

Whereas the Right and others think it is a mental illness that needs to be treated in the same way we all agree(outside of gender dysphoria) we should treat mental illness.

Love,

Homesteaded

[Origen]

You're a hateful bigot and using the word Love in a post doesn't change that. Only actions change that. Your ideology is incompatible with the faith you wear as armor. God sees through these casual lies you tell yourself and others.

[Rager and Quitter]

This was only a few weeks ago, so it seems fairly pertinent to the discussion. Something to consider, unless you're more close-minded than the people you accuse of being close-minded.

I don't think I know how to embed videos, but I'll give this a shot :(

Azx8e5nmc9g

[Rager and Quitter]

Oh shit it worked! Woo hoo!

[Homesteaded]

You're a hateful bigot and using the word Love in a post doesn't change that. Only actions change that. Your ideology is incompatible with the faith you wear as armor. God sees through these casual lies you tell yourself and others.

You don't seem to think past a first order problem.

Jesus taught us not to hate, not to judge, but to Love. I don't hate people with gender dysmorphia, I feel deeply for them. It's not a hand anyone would pick. We just disagree on how to help them, is that not a reasonable summary?

When it comes to pushing this stuff on children. Well that's straight up evil, sorry.

Jesus did teach Love, but he also taught that things have consequences.

[Origen]

I've seen you refer to every single person on the left as a demon, you bigot

You can lie to yourself and say you're spreading love, but we both know you're spreading hatred and so does God

[Origen]

He's Origen

hthVery funny how bad I have given Elizondo brainworms

His sense of humor seems to flee him when it comes to me, crazy how that works

[Landroval]

I've seen you refer to every single person on the left as a demon, you bigot

You can lie to yourself and say you're spreading love, but we both know you're spreading hatred and so does God

As the saying goes; Lefties are the devil's minions.

[Origen]

Yeah, any person who calls another human a demon or a devil is doing blasphemy. Jesus was a Leftist.

[Landroval]

Centrist.


Arrogance---------\|/--------Knowledge
---------------------Pride-------------------
Ignorance---------/|\---------Weakness
Ignorance---------\|/---------Weakness
--------------------Shame------------------
Sin(failure)--------/|\--------Humiliation

Plus

Knowledge-------\|/----------Success
-------------------Wisdom---------------
Strength-----------/|\-------Awareness
Strength-----------\|/-------Awareness
-------------------Humility----------------
Humiliation-------/|\----------Patience


Equals:


------------------(Nous)---------------
--------------(knowledge)----------------
Pride--------------\|/------Wisdom
Weakness-----Truth-------Strength
Shame------------/|\-------Humility
Luciferian<---(Christ)----->MiChaElian
-----------------(Ennoia)---------------



Ignorance-------\|/----------Arrrogance
-------------------Pride---------------
Courage---------/|\-------Knowledge
Courage---------\|/-------Knowledge
------------------Wisdom----------------
Awareness-------/|\---------Strength

Ignorance---------\|/---------Failure
-------------------Shame---------------
Vulnerability------/|\-------Humiliation
Vulnerability------\|/-------Humiliation
-------------------Humility----------------
Awareness--------/|\--------Strength

[Landroval]

The square root of a number consists of both the positive roots, and the negative roots.

As a Tikkun Olamist, you should know this.

[Origen]

Is this guy trying to be a right-wing Sadre? Ugh, spare me, I follow the KISS principle in posts

[Landroval]

Is this guy trying to be a right-wing Sadre? Ugh, spare me, I follow the KISS principle in posts

Is that your way of saying you don't understand?