NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[unsunghero]

Concealed carry permit holders are more law abiding than actual police, statistically. Of course people should be responsible with their guns, but you're not going to hear a news story about responsible gun owners being responsible. "John Doe continued to have his gun safely secured today" isn't a news story, you're only made aware of the times where shit goes sideways which skews the perception of safety.

Botten thinks guns are uniquely capable of killing people, which just isn't true. A car can take out far more people far more quickly than any semi-automatic gun. The Nice, France truck attack for instance. Dude killed 86 people by just running them over, which is a higher body count than any mass shooting that has ever occurred in the US. And that guy was stopped by.... a gun.

Wanting to ban guns is mostly just an emotional, irrational response to tragedies that get plastered all over TV for months.

True, we don’t know the number of truly responsible, model citizen type of gun owners out there

But there’s what I perceive to be a dangerously large amount of irresponsible ones too. Leaving their shit out. Being just a dumb person in general, who isn’t even good at shooting a gun or gun safety, getting hammered and then carrying their gun ready to “defend themselves”. We hear about these scenarios that end in disaster, but just like the hidden responsible number, there’s an unknown amount of people this shitty/irresponsible existing not happening to kill someone (yet)

[quido]

Crap, I forgot to grab onions at the store - better get my gun and head back.

[aussenseiter]

At a certain point in that kind of discussion you also have to ask, "borders for what?" Borders are pressing in 2023.

What about 1823? Even 1923?

Global pop today is 8 billion. Population in the early 1800's was a bit over 1 billion. Even 100 years later, it still was not 2 billion. 2 billion is around 1930. Then 3 billion in 1960. 1974, 4 billion; 1987, 5 billion; 1999 was the glorious 6 billion mark; 2011 was 7, and 8 was just recently.

The meaning of a border, or how much one even thinks it matters, is relative to what the borders contain. And until relatively recent, borders always have had hot spots but this notion of lines on a globe, per se?

Not much lol. Unless you dig the maps, no?

Nonsense. Sykes Picot was proven the correct course during the last footy tournament.

Should do that more, really. ⚽

[Origen]

The murder weapon isn't the problem, necessarily, it's that America is fundamentally white supremacist and white supremacy requires violence to exist. That violence also creates reactionary violence, which white supremacists then use to justify further violence against oppressed communities.

Same old shit, but with way more guns, and during the information age.

[Crepido]

how does a white supremacist country allow a black man to become president?

[Landroval]

Lol this last page reads like the dialogue of the nu-crime Law and Order type shows my wife watches rife with buzzword nu-political word salad.

[unsunghero]

My co-worker a few months back showed me a picture someone from his high school posted on fb (this co-worker is 10yrs younger and apparently these younger generations all friended all their classmates on social media and thus had their entire graduating class on fb)

Anyway, the pic was of a pistol he just bought. The guy was apparently autistic, and not the high functioning type. Or maybe not autistic, but had some cognitive issue that was apparently immediately apparent to anyone who talked to him. He also, sadly due to his mental state, had no friends and never really went out

So this lower functioning autistic man who happened to still be his own guardian decided he wanted a gun, spontaneously, and a gun store worker might have been a bit perturbed to be selling a gun to someone who was clearly mentally handicapped, but that’s his job

I’m very pro-2A, but I’ll still say there’s some people, like low functioning mentally handicapped people who already pitch fits sometimes, that probably shouldn’t be having that gun. And I personally think we have a lot of shitty irresponsible gun owners, and people should have good judgement and be competent with a gun to own one. Maybe not as a legal mandate, not going that far to say that. But it should exist more, responsible competent gun owners vs shitty ones

[Origen]

how does a white supremacist country allow a black man to become president?Make him politically equivalent to Reagan but run him as if he's on the left, make sure most Americans can't tell that there's no leftist politics in America

Did you watch his Netflix doc? Obama despises us all

[aussenseiter]

Make him politically equivalent to Reagan but run him as if he's on the left, make sure most Americans can't tell that there's no leftist politics in America

Did you watch his Netflix doc? Obama despises us all

True, Reagan did do amnesty.

[Origen]

Most folks I know here would tell you that America has become a more racist place since Obama's election. Tea party to alt-right to fascist pipeline. Reactionary violence. Those same reactionaries seem to be under the impression, as evidenced here in this thread, that removing what little social safety net there is in America will somehow create a more just society.

In other words, the casual racism on display in this thread is the reactionary violence being workshopped by the reactionary voter base. Their answer to nearly every problem is more violence in some form.

[aussenseiter]

Most folks I know here would tell you that America has become a more racist place since Obama's election. Tea party to alt-right to fascist pipeline. Reactionary violence. Those same reactionaries seem to be under the impression, as evidenced here in this thread, that removing what little social safety net there is in America will somehow create a more just society.

In other words, the casual racism on display in this thread is the reactionary violence being workshopped by the reactionary voter base. Their answer to nearly every problem is more violence in some form.

Why is it racist to remove what little social safety net there is in America?

What are you saying here?

[Landroval]

Careful, Doggo. I don't think he understands what a premise is

[aussenseiter]

Careful, Doggo. I don't think he understands what a premise is

I don't think it's true and would prefer to not find out.

Anyway, Foxconn.

[unsunghero]

Why is it racist to remove what little social safety net there is in America?

What are you saying here?

There’s more white people on welfare than black, but that’s due to there being more white people in general

Regardless, it’s right in the name, which isn’t welfare….it is Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. It’s meant to be temporary, not something you sit on for life. At the very least, we should look at removing those people on it who are physically and mentally capable of working but choose not to, the majority of which would be white people

No idea how many people that would be who are abusing it. If you ask a Dem, it’s zero. If you ask a Repub, it’s most of the people on it

[unsunghero]

I imagine Dems believe that everyone on welfare are super ambitious and hard-working, every day using what public transport they can access to go put applications in at various entry level jobs around the area, probably putting in 3 different ones a day

Then sitting patiently by their phone, flabbergasted at the fact that no one is calling them back with job opportunities in a labor shortage market

Whatever fantasy helps you sleep at night. I bet they’re all like that too

[unsunghero]

Also, if we are using the excuse that entry level jobs can’t cover the cost of living, then why can’t I have the government pay part of my mortgage off with their money printers?

When I first bought my home, my mortgage was good comparatively at $1200/mo, but it was literally impossible for me to afford to live with that kind of a mortgage. So I had to get some roommates to cover the cost of rent (or in this case, my mortgage)

I had the dilemma of finding random strangers online or looking to co-workers/friends/family, and I was able to find someone, new people multiple times when one had to leave for various reasons

Why should I have to do any of this? Why can’t I just say “hey government, my job doesn’t pay enough, so you pay the rest because I want to be able to live alone with my cat and not have to figure out how to co-exist in a space with other people”

[druidbob]

There’s more white people on welfare than black, but that’s due to there being more white people in general

Regardless, it’s right in the name, which isn’t welfare….it is Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. It’s meant to be temporary, not something you sit on for life. At the very least, we should look at removing those people on it who are physically and mentally capable of working but choose not to, the majority of which would be white people

No idea how many people that would be who are abusing it. If you ask a Dem, it’s zero. If you ask a Repub, it’s most of the people on it

The worst abusers of welfare aren't people but corporations. Companies like Walmart and McDonald's actually encourage their employees to apply for welfare and food stamps since they aren't getting paid enough to survive. We the taxpayers get to basically subsidize paying their staff for them.

[druidbob]

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/10/instead-living-wage-mcdonalds-tells-workers-sign-food-stamps/309625/

[unsunghero]

The worst abusers of welfare aren't people but corporations. Companies like Walmart and McDonald's actually encourage their employees to apply for welfare and food stamps since they aren't getting paid enough to survive. We the taxpayers get to basically subsidize paying their staff for them.

The only gripe here is possibly not paying more when they could. Telling people about gov’t programs I would say is helpful not hurtful

When you don’t make enough to make ends meet you have to get resourceful, which includes getting roommates and looking for whatever social program could help

Illegals immigrants from Central America and Mexico make probably a few dollars a day and still survive as families with very little in the way of gov’t assistance because in some states adult illegals don’t qualify. They just downgrade their standard of living below what Americans are comfortable with

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Crap, I forgot to grab onions at the store - better get my gun and head back.

https://i.imgur.com/0zdDAue.jpg

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Lol this last page reads like the dialogue of the nu-crime Law and Order type shows my wife watches rife with buzzword nu-political word salad.

Haven't watched anything on tv in like a decade. It's all just fractal variations on everything I, or anybody, has ever watched anyway. Turning on the tv is like that scene in the matrix with the architect. Nothing being said is anything more than radio blah blah, but the fact there are x number of TV's is an effective graphic representation of what our tesseract feels like sometimes.

So every time I post here I realize, the normal folks posting here are still inside the thing. They aren't runners yet. They think they are running, but they're inside.

You know when you become a runner.

Speaking of which.
https://i.imgur.com/CrHgjws.jpg

[aussenseiter]

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/10/instead-living-wage-mcdonalds-tells-workers-sign-food-stamps/309625/

$7bn is not very much.

The push for fairer wages, and the recording of Salgado's call stems from a report last week which found that more than half of fast food workers have to go on public assistance programs because of their poor wages, CNN reported. "The report estimated that this public aid carries a $7 billion price tag for taxpayers each year," they explain.

[unsunghero]

$7bn is not very much.

Ya social programs are not a huge part of our spending. I just gripe because of the ethics issue of some possible freeloaders not interested in working for not a good reason taking advantage of the hard work of others who pay into these programs

[Nibblewitz]

Incentives at work. Why would the company pay their workers more when there are assistance programs to cover the difference?

[aussenseiter]

Ya social programs are not a huge part of our spending. I just gripe because of the ethics issue of some possible freeloaders not interested in working for not a good reason taking advantage of the hard work of others who pay into these programs

They are workers for that figure. Just not paid well.

[Landroval]

Haven't watched anything on tv in like a decade. It's all just fractal variations on everything I, or anybody, has ever watched anyway. Turning on the tv is like that scene in the matrix with the architect. Nothing being said is anything more than radio blah blah, but the fact there are x number of TV's is an effective graphic representation of what our tesseract feels like sometimes.

So every time I post here I realize, the normal folks posting here are still inside the thing. They aren't runners yet. They think they are running, but they're inside.

You know when you become a runner.

Speaking of which.
https://i.imgur.com/CrHgjws.jpg
Sometimes you just gotta know to see ahead of the nowness of it all.

[Origen]

Why is it racist to remove what little social safety net there is in America?

What are you saying here?Racism is just one of the ways the worker is manipulated to work against their own interests, such as the elimination of social safety nets.

I referred to racism because of the ways the alt-right members of this forum talk about class problems but refer to them only in casually racist ways. Doing the legwork of the people that oppress them.

[Landroval]

Urgent news update;
There are people that have more (x) than me; the outrage

[Patriam1066]

I imagine Dems believe that everyone on welfare are super ambitious and hard-working, every day using what public transport they can access to go put applications in at various entry level jobs around the area, probably putting in 3 different ones a day

Then sitting patiently by their phone, flabbergasted at the fact that no one is calling them back with job opportunities in a labor shortage market

Whatever fantasy helps you sleep at night. I bet they’re all like that too

I think the average poor person receiving welfare is probably a lazy sack of shit

That said, a robust education system that taught civics, values, and job skills would help remove their children from being condemned to poverty. Sadly, your parents make a MASSIVE difference to how your life turns out in America

That said, it’s still better than 99% of places and periods in human history and ultimately, if you are homeless and on heroin we must return to the obvious conclusion that you are indeed a sack of shit scumbag

[Patriam1066]

I remember making straight A’s, playing football, and working digging trenches for PVC irrigation systems when I was 14. I did all of that and got cheerleader pussy

Now people complain that their degree didn’t automatically come with a job. Idk, I think it’ll turn around but it must be said most people under 50 are gigantic pussies

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Nowness is so freakin over.

"Your Mindful Toddler" is currently on the NYT bestseller list. First of all, none of this is magic or new. Ever practice breathing exercises? Welcome to the Now.

Jesus Christ people are boring. And predictable. They all think they are running, and they kind of are, but not in the sense they think they are. They are running against time.

Perhaps I am being over harsh. The young start families and adult lives and dream and hope and wish, because that is what the young always do.

So I guess the fact "Your Intentional Poop" tops the "Spiritual and Religious" bestseller list in Belgium is not really "bad" per se. Just, good lord, you know?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Do not the Vedas speak of the dung from an animal, and then of the Godhead, of our deepest selves, and say "Tat Tvam Asi"?

Yes. Yes they do.

[Landroval]

Have more, want less
Have less, want more

........
Want more, have less
......
Want less, have more

[aussenseiter]

Nowness is so freakin over.

"Your Mindful Toddler" is currently on the NYT bestseller list. First of all, none of this is magic or new. Ever practice breathing exercises? Welcome to the Now.

Jesus Christ people are boring. And predictable. They all think they are running, and they kind of are, but not in the sense they think they are. They are running against time.

Perhaps I am being over harsh. The young start families and adult lives and dream and hope and wish, because that is what the young always do.

So I guess the fact "Your Intentional Poop" tops the "Spiritual and Religious" bestseller list in Belgium is not really "bad" per se. Just, good lord, you know?

Why do you run? Will you not fight? Or will you perish like a dog?

[arvidez]

Do not the Vedas speak of the dung from an animal, and then of the Godhead, of our deepest selves, and say "Tat Tvam Asi"?

Yes. Yes they do.

the rise in narcissism the researchers are claiming.

no one is gonna recognize they are mostly dung.

someone 100+ yrs ago said people dont ask for signs anymore, they ask for signs to be explained to them.

we have grown less aware and more distracted. whats more distracting than a black white supremist and a man giving birth.

[Ooloo]

True, we don’t know the number of truly responsible, model citizen type of gun owners out there

But there’s what I perceive to be a dangerously large amount of irresponsible ones too. Leaving their shit out. Being just a dumb person in general, who isn’t even good at shooting a gun or gun safety, getting hammered and then carrying their gun ready to “defend themselves”. We hear about these scenarios that end in disaster, but just like the hidden responsible number, there’s an unknown amount of people this shitty/irresponsible existing not happening to kill someone (yet)

Very true. I think that's just a matter of gun safety education. I would have no problem strengthening the requirements to buy a gun in the first place, like passing rigorous safety courses. Although libs are under the impression you can just waltz into a walmart and buy a gun which is not remotely true, there are quite a few checks in place already.

The question I think is what effect would just simply banning guns have? Dems love to claim they don't want to ban guns, but then they talk about how great Australia is who... banned guns. And they talk about AR15's all the time even though they are responsible for exponentially fewer deaths than hand guns. TLDR: they're fundamentally ignorant of how guns work, but they really want to impose gun policy.

Taking that Nice, France truck attack example again: Let's say all guns were banned in the US (other than for police and military use). A mass shooter, by definition, has the psychology of somebody who wants to kill as many people as possible. I don't think that desire will just go away if he or she can't acquire a gun. They might instead just use a truck, which in France killed more people than any mass shooting that has ever occurred in the US. So banning guns might simply have the effect of making mass killings *more* deadly if they start just plowing into people with cars instead. We just won't call them "shootings" anymore, as if that is somehow better.

"Sure, 100 people just got murdered by a psycho driving a truck, but at least it wasn't a mass shooting!" is something many libs would probably really think.

[Botten]

Concealed carry permit holders are more law abiding than actual police, statistically. Of course people should be responsible with their guns, but you're not going to hear a news story about responsible gun owners being responsible. "John Doe continued to have his gun safely secured today" isn't a news story, you're only made aware of the times where shit goes sideways which skews the perception of safety.

You really do just fall for the consulting echo chamber dribble you are fed by your grifting right podcast entertainment.


MYTH: Concealed handgun permit holders commit virtually no crimes (https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/no-crimes/)

"In Lott’s book Gun Control Myths, he writes “Permit holders are convicted of firearms-related violations at about 1/6th of the rate that police officers are.

Lott’s analysis of permit revocation data is fatally flawed. Lott’s data suffers from incomplete data, missing data, lack of access to public data on permit holders, improperly completed background checks on permits, the failure of some states to require a background check on permit holder applicants, and states that rely on an honor system for permit revocation.

In addition to relying on unreliable data, Lott’s choice to compare permit holders with police officers is not persuasive because law enforcement frequently encounters situations where the opportunity for criminal conduct by officers, such as the misuse of force and corruption, is a potential, whereas permit holders as a group will almost never face similar situations."

Botten thinks guns are uniquely capable of killing people, which just isn't true. A car can take out far more people far more quickly than any semi-automatic gun. The Nice, France truck attack for instance. Dude killed 86 people by just running them over, which is a higher body count than any mass shooting that has ever occurred in the US. And that guy was stopped by.... a gun.

Wanting to ban guns is mostly just an emotional, irrational response to tragedies that get plastered all over TV for months.

A gun is a tool to makes it easier to hurt or kill people.
A van, truck or car is meant for transport.

The guy was stopped by cops. I have no problem with cops having guns.

I want guns out the hands of citizens.

This needs to stop:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476101/worst-mass-shootings-in-the-us/

[Ooloo]

You really do just fall for the consulting echo chamber dribble you are fed by your grifting right podcast entertainment.


MYTH: Concealed handgun permit holders commit virtually no crimes (https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/no-crimes/)

"In Lott’s book Gun Control Myths, he writes “Permit holders are convicted of firearms-related violations at about 1/6th of the rate that police officers are.

Lott’s analysis of permit revocation data is fatally flawed. Lott’s data suffers from incomplete data, missing data, lack of access to public data on permit holders, improperly completed background checks on permits, the failure of some states to require a background check on permit holder applicants, and states that rely on an honor system for permit revocation.

In addition to relying on unreliable data, Lott’s choice to compare permit holders with police officers is not persuasive because law enforcement frequently encounters situations where the opportunity for criminal conduct by officers, such as the misuse of force and corruption, is a potential, whereas permit holders as a group will almost never face similar situations."



A gun is a tool to makes it easier to hurt or kill people.
A van, truck or car is meant for transport.

The guy was stopped by cops. I have no problem with cops having guns.

I want guns out the hands of citizens.

This needs to stop:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476101/worst-mass-shootings-in-the-us/

That's fine, even if the "concealed-carry-less-criminal" stat is wrong I don't even really care, because it's mostly irrelevant to the point.

Please see the point I just made regarding the truck attack. Yes trucks have other uses than mass murder. But if a lunatic can't get a gun, it doesn't mean their desire to mass-murder goes away. They might now use some other means, which might be WORSE than if they had just used a gun. The Nice, France truck attack killed more people than any US mass shooting ever has. And mass shootings are always the thrust of dems' desire to restrict guns, so answering that conundrum matters. I'm not arguing that if you want to ban guns you should want to ban trucks first; I'm arguing that banning guns could actually make mass-killings *more deadly* when they happen, because guns are actually not the most efficient way to kill people.

And on the "legitimate use" argument: Guns ALSO have a legitimate use other than mass murder, which is called self defense. And you once again don't seem to care that banning guns from citizens will guarantee tons of people die who wouldn't have died if they had a gun. You're once again just swapping out one bodycount for a different one, and you always ignore this point.

If your goal is "fewer innocent people dying", banning guns is not the magic solution you think it is.

[Landroval]

do the terrorism
Nice try, mossad.

[Elizondo]

Gun Grabbers just endlessly whine and should be ignored

[Landroval]

Authorities uncover white supremacist plot to overthrow the UA government, by doing nothing

[Ooloo]

Gun Grabbers just endlessly whine and should be ignored

Honestly it's just fun to raise points that I guarantee they've never considered. Not that they'll ever admit it.

[aussenseiter]

Honestly it's just fun to raise points that I guarantee they've never considered. Not that they'll ever admit it.

To do nothing on guns is genocide.

[Ooloo]

To do nothing on guns is genocide.

Sure I'm not some 2A fundamentalist. I think it should generally be harder for citizens to buy guns than it currently is, mostly by way of having to pass rigorous safety and training courses. I don't think every american has some god-given right to own a gun or anything like that.

But I also think the fixation on AR15's and mass shootings is completely emotionally driven and totally misunderstanding the issue and possible solutions. Policy should never be drafted by emotional reactions, regardless of the issue.

[Landroval]

To do nothing on guns is genocide.

Oh...of whom, may I ask?

[aussenseiter]

Oh...of whom, may I ask?

🤫

[Elizondo]

Sure I'm not some 2A fundamentalist. I think it should generally be harder for citizens to buy guns than it currently is, mostly by way of having to pass rigorous safety and training courses. I don't think every american has some god-given right to own a gun or anything like that.

But I also think the fixation on AR15's and mass shootings is completely emotionally driven and totally misunderstanding the issue and possible solutions. Policy should never be drafted by emotional reactions, regardless of the issue.

Nobody has anything to fear from a law abiding, moral citizen owning a firearm

The problem is Culture. Not guns.

[Botten]

And on the "legitimate use" argument: Guns ALSO have a legitimate use other than mass murder, which is called self defense. And you once again don't seem to care that banning guns from citizens will guarantee tons of people die who wouldn't have died if they had a gun. You're once again just swapping out one bodycount for a different one, and you always ignore this point.

If your goal is "fewer innocent people dying", banning guns is not the magic solution you think it is.

Yes guns are a tool made to make it easy to hurt or kill.

When you defensively are using a gun you are threatening harm.

Getting guns out of the hands of all civilians does reduce mass homicide since the function of some these guns makes it that much easier to commit them. The high-power tool get used to kill. It isn’t that hard for anyone to figure out unless you rot your brain on alt right podcasts all day.

[Origen]

Honestly it's just fun to raise points that I guarantee they've never considered. Not that they'll ever admit it.When I see you make one you'll be the first to know, you tiresome egomaniac

[arvidez]

When I see you make one you'll be the first to know, you tiresome egomaniac

except this would be covered under "not that they'll ever admit it."

[arvidez]

cars and guns are great symbols of freedom. of course a tyrant would want them.

[Elizondo]

'Waaaahh! We want your guns so you can't defend yourselves when we enslave you! Waaahh!"

[Origen]

except this would be covered under "not that they'll ever admit it."No, I typically give credit where it's due. Just hasn't happened yet. Arrogance irritates me.

[Homesteaded]

Is Origen the new Horza? Constant injection of racism claims into the conversation. Feels a lot like Horza blabbering on about orange man or horse paste.

[Botten]

… orange man or horse paste.

He pushed hydroxychloroquine not ivermectin. Remember?

Because he had a personal financial interest in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine.

What isn’t Republican without grifting their base who were desperate to prevent themselves from dying.

[Trexller]

^ this guy actually believes democrats aren't also trying to squeeze every last bit of life out of the American people.

he believes that our 2 major political parties are separate entities, and not working together in cahoots to engineer a new civilization devoid of the mistake that was the middle class

this guy is blind and brainwashed.

[Botten]

....

he believes that our 2 major political parties are separate entities, and not working together in cahoots to engineer a new civilization devoid of the mistake that was the middle class

this guy is blind and brainwashed.

A new world order you say?

coo-coo

[aussenseiter]

A new world order you say?

coo-coo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Man_(utopian_concept)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Man_(utopian_concept)#Transhumanist_New_Man

Transhumanist New Man

Transhumanism welcomes the creation of a literal new man by enhancements through cybernetics and other "human enhancements", and look to the singularity as that point in time when the new man arrives, his birthday if you will. Scholar Klaus Vondung argues that Transhumanism represents the final revolution. Others have made similar observations.

[Origen]

Is Origen the new Horza? Constant injection of racism claims into the conversation. Feels a lot like Horza blabbering on about orange man or horse paste.Very racist person is mad that people notice his racism

[Homesteaded]

Very racist person is mad that people notice his racism

No one believes you, including yourself.

[Origen]

Incredible, powerful arrogance from the third most hateful blowhard on the forums.

[Landroval]

Very racist person is mad that people notice his racism

Not really into BDSM with middle aged men. Super cringe.

[unsunghero]

Transhumanism welcomes the creation of a literal new man by enhancements through cybernetics and other "human enhancements", and look to the singularity as that point in time when the new man arrives, his birthday if you will. Scholar Klaus Vondung argues that Transhumanism represents the final revolution. Others have made similar observations

For people too lazy to work out to get stronger or faster? Instead of that just replace parts with robot parts? Good luck with that

[druidbob]

For people too lazy to work out to get stronger or faster? Instead of that just replace parts with robot parts? Good luck with that

Deus Ex was an awesome game tho

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Man_(utopian_concept)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Man_(utopian_concept)#Transhumanist_New_Man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novum_Organum

The "new method" -- aka scientific method, empiricism.

= the engine of the modern world

= things that get funky
https://i.imgur.com/42WnQuA.jpg

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

1. All of race theory is an episode of quasi-scientific fuckery, and at most is the equivalent of trying to make meaningful observations by grouping people by eye color.

2. Speaking of the effects of race theory, and racialist thinking, and trying to remedy the effects of this fuckery, is not simply more fuckery. That would be like saying trying to put out a fire is just as bad as starting one. Which is idiotic.

[aussenseiter]

1. All of race theory is an episode of quasi-scientific fuckery, and at most is the equivalent of trying to make meaningful observations by grouping people by eye color.

2. Speaking of the effects of race theory, and racialist thinking, and trying to remedy the effects of this fuckery, is not simply more fuckery. That would be like saying trying to put out a fire is just as bad as starting one. Which is idiotic.

Genghis Khan had red hair and green eyes.

Sins of the father.

[arvidez]

racist hate the blood
anti-racist hate the skin

[arvidez]

1. All of race theory is an episode of quasi-scientific fuckery, and at most is the equivalent of trying to make meaningful observations by grouping people by eye color.

2. Speaking of the effects of race theory, and racialist thinking, and trying to remedy the effects of this fuckery, is not simply more fuckery. That would be like saying trying to put out a fire is just as bad as starting one. Which is idiotic.

"the brown man belongs to the great spirit."

"the pale man belongs to the spirits, who in black shapes as little dwarf-like beings, hop about on the paper and do not speak the truth"

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

In the Long View, any kind of racial animus can fairly be described, currently, as end game of the racialist age of human thought. If we are talking non-rational, tribal life, which freakin defines 99% of our species' history, such simplistic views clearly have utilities. Tribalism is the way to go for hundreds of millennia.

This is all trying to work out a problem. Is James Brown's "The Payback" a cool idea? No. That's really what the song feels like, really. This can't be it, one knows, even though it still is being played on a hot saturday night.

History is best with a soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L7-9y8tT50
1L7-9y8tT50

[Ooloo]

Incredible, powerful arrogance from the third most hateful blowhard on the forums.

Again, you are way angrier and more hateful than anyone else. Also more willfully ignorant. "I'm not going to read that" is like your proud battle cry.

[Botten]

Kandiss Taylor’s slogan is Jesus, babies and guns.

Recently this year she was elected Chair of GA’s crucial 1st GOP District

This woman makes Marjorie Taylor Greene look sane.

You Republicans must be so proud. More nuts.

5uIKhleWExg

[Ooloo]

Lol republicans don't want to chemically castrate confused children. The party you defend endorses doing so. You kind of need to explain why doing so is a good idea before you call anyone else a "nut".

[aussenseiter]

Kandiss Taylor’s slogan is Jesus, babies and guns.

Recently this year she was elected Chair of GA’s crucial 1st GOP District

She got 3% in the Republican governor primary.

What's important about GA's 1st Congressional District? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Carter)

[unsunghero]

Lol

“Kamau yelled at him several times, snarling, “Do you know who the f–k I am? I’m the mayor, and I’ll wait for my police to get here and see what happens then,” WSB-TV said”

- Spoiler alert: What happens then was he got arrested

[unsunghero]

“We’re trying to de-person this person and you’re treating them like a person in public? HOW DARE YOU”

Question: how the fuck do you “normalize” a person? Isn’t “normal” one of those taboo words we don’t want to use anymore regarding people…because marginalized people like adult baby-roleplay diaper wearing furries don’t fit the “normal” category?

[Botten]

Lol

“Kamau yelled at him several times, snarling, “Do you know who the f–k I am? I’m the mayor, and I’ll wait for my police to get here and see what happens then,” WSB-TV said”

- Spoiler alert: What happens then was he got arrested

Kamau said in the report that the home on Cascade Palmetto Highway is his dream home and that he would like to purchase the property.

He told police he knew he was trespassing on the homeowner’s property.

Kamau said in the report that he tried to introduce himself, but the homeowner cocked his weapon and said, “If you take another step, I’m going to shoot you,” to which Kamau responded, “Are you going to shoot me while I’m walking away?”

Context

[unsunghero]

Context

Supposedly he broke into the home though, which is why he got a burglary charge

[Botten]

Supposedly he broke into the home though, which is why he got a burglary charge

Probably did.

looks like 3% can get you part of Georgia GOP party elections

LoL "The planet would have to be flat else the oceans would drop off like ice cream."

[Origen]

Again, you are way angrier and more hateful than anyone else. Also more willfully ignorant. "I'm not going to read that" is like your proud battle cry.I'm sorry you dislike the taste of your own medicine so much, buddy. You can fool other low information alt-righters that share your bigotry with your regurgitated reactionary slop, but you don't fool anyone who has an IQ in the triple digits plus.

I'm just trying to help you improve your arguments. You see how full of shit that sounds?

[Landroval]

https://m.facebook.com/17841440406887169/videos/967348450982151/

[unsunghero]

Heard about Biden continuing to deny the existence of Hunter’s out of wedlock kid

Think politifact or snopes will touch this? Nah, they too partisan huh

“Can’t fact check the president, SAME TEAM BRO”

[aussenseiter]

Heard about Biden continuing to deny the existence of Hunter’s out of wedlock kid

Think politifact or snopes will touch this? Nah, they too partisan huh

“Can’t fact check the president, SAME TEAM BRO”

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22266&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1689028498

Devil's advocate, isn't it up to the father?

Celtic should order him a beating.

[unsunghero]

Devil's advocate, isn't it up to the father?

Celtic should order him a beating.

Nah, your kid is your kid whether you acknowledge their existence or not

You can have an absentee father, and you can have a kid who doesn’t even know who his father is, but every kid has a father

[aussenseiter]

Nah, your kid is your kid whether you acknowledge their existence or not

You can have an absentee father, and you can have a kid who doesn’t even know who his father is, but every kid has a father

I agree but what's the course for a grandfather if the father doesn't?

[unsunghero]

I agree but what's the course for a grandfather if the father doesn't?

I mean he can say whatever he wants but it’s a lie. The kid exists

I guess they could try to kill the kid, then it wouldn’t be a lie anymore. Maybe he can get the FBI to do something ;)

[Trexller]

If I were that kid, I'd be nervous AF

"No I'm good, don't need a dad or grandfather, or family at all"

"Convertible cadillac ride in dallas? LOL Nope, fool me once, shame on you!"

[unsunghero]

I guess they could try to kill the kid

When you need to deal with the pesky out of wedlock potential heirs to your throne once and for all:

[unsunghero]

Lol whoops

This is what can happen when you try to be virtuous with other people’s things

Eventually someone is going to call you to put your own money (or other assets) where your virtue signaling mouth is

So is Ben and Jerry’s going to give their HQ back to the natives? I vote they tell them to go fuck themselves and offer some free ice cream (Oh and continue to virtue signal)

[Origen]

Oh boy this week's Behind the Bastards is on Scott Adams

[Landroval]

Heard about Biden continuing to deny the existence of Hunter’s out of wedlock kid

Think politifact or snopes will touch this? Nah, they too partisan huh

“Can’t fact check the president, SAME TEAM BRO”

Geriatric Joe doesn't like to name his food.

If he acknowledges his grandson as his grandson, that's one less potential mate in his predatorial pool, pushing the hair on his legs down and watching it pop back up.

[Toxigen]

hunters blow found in white house lol

[Ooloo]

The bidens really are just.. disgusting people. I can't figure out if dems actually think they're like upstanding boyscouts, or if they know how fucked up and corrupt they are but they're just like ehhhhhh well, at least he's not trump.

I'm guessing it's a mix of both.

[druidbob]

Geriatric Joe doesn't like to name his food.

If he acknowledges his grandson as his grandson, that's one less potential mate in his predatorial pool, pushing the hair on his legs down and watching it pop back up.

I just want to say I hate you for putting this image in my head

[Toxigen]

The bidens really are just.. disgusting people. I can't figure out if dems actually think they're like upstanding boyscouts, or if they know how fucked up and corrupt they are but they're just like ehhhhhh well, at least he's not trump.

I'm guessing it's a mix of both.

all the trump and biden kids married jews

hope this helps

[Ooloo]

all the trump and biden kids married jews

hope this helps

uhhh lol, not really

half my family is jewish brah, that's gonna be a tough sell

[Origen]

Go back to Stormfront, Toxigen

[Patriam1066]

all the trump and biden kids married jews

hope this helps

Is this true?

[aussenseiter]

Is this true?

She's Jew-ish, not Jewish. (https://jewishjournal.com/news/united-states/224320/eric-trumps-wife-lara-jewish/)

The false impression that Lara Trump (nee Yunaska), a former personal trainer and producer for CBS’s “Inside Edition,” is Jewish seems to trace back to a 2014 Page Six article in the New York Post that said the couple wed under “a crystal-embellished chuppa” (with Jewish brother-in-law Jared Kushner officiating). It’s not clear whether the canopy was, in fact, inspired by Jewish custom, but following the publication of that article, Jewish media outlets (along with some anti-Semitic ones) referred to her as Jewish.

[Homesteaded]

The bidens really are just.. disgusting people. I can't figure out if dems actually think they're like upstanding boyscouts, or if they know how fucked up and corrupt they are but they're just like ehhhhhh well, at least he's not trump.

I'm guessing it's a mix of both.

They stand for nothing and support the status quo. They lack any guiding principles other than popularity. Jesus hasn't been popular for years.

[Trexller]

Jesus hasn't been popular for years.

to be fair Jesus didn't become popular until everyone realized that if they didn't buy a bible and pay tithes, that the catholic church would set them on fire.

humans are gonna do whatever makes their lives easiest, this is really the only constant in humanity.

look around

[Homesteaded]

Are you trying to connect the teachings of Jesus and the atrocities of man?

[aussenseiter]

to be fair Jesus didn't become popular until everyone realized that if they didn't buy a bible and pay tithes, that the catholic church would set them on fire.

humans are gonna do whatever makes their lives easiest, this is really the only constant in humanity.

look around

The fires only started after Luther committed liturgical arsony, thank you.

It's been the same since.

[Landroval]

The fires only started after Luther committed liturgical arsony, thank you.

It's been the same since.

He also arbitrarily decided to remove several books from canon.

[Origen]

Are you trying to connect the teachings of Jesus and the atrocities of man?You conservative Christians are certainly doing your best with that evil supply side jesus you worship.

Please consider worshiping the actual Jesus, not that disgusting monstrosity that corroborates your bigotry and hate

[Toxigen]

Is this true?

ye

[cd288]

to be fair Jesus didn't become popular until everyone realized that if they didn't buy a bible and pay tithes, that the catholic church would set them on fire.

humans are gonna do whatever makes their lives easiest, this is really the only constant in humanity.

look around

Jesus became plenty popular before this, because the whole idea of his teaching was that you were essentially on equal footing with every other class of humanity.

The church then showed up and institutionalized this and kept a class system in place through things like divine right justification for monarchs etc.

[Duik]

Are you trying to connect the teachings of Jesus and the atrocities of man?

When those atrocities are done in the name of jesus and/or god? I would certainly do so. It's not what one teaches that manifests, it is how another interprets it.
This will not help those confused with the fiction that is the bible.
I feel sorry for thee.

[aussenseiter]

Jesus became plenty popular before this, because the whole idea of his teaching was that you were essentially on equal footing with every other class of humanity.

The church then showed up and institutionalized this and kept a class system in place through things like divine right justification for monarchs etc.

How are men justified?

[Duik]

Church knew, at that time where the power lay.
Telling a conceited self righteous monarch he can be above the laws of mere men would place the priest in good stead with that power. Then, the religeous fed the monarchy and the Kings reciprocated.
Circle of corruption/power is complete and self propelling.
Genius.

[aussenseiter]

Church knew, at that time where the power lay.
Telling a conceited self righteous monarch he can be above the laws of mere men would place the priest in good stead with that power. Then, the religeous fed the monarchy and the Kings reciprocated.
Circle of corruption/power is complete and self propelling.
Genius.

First Estate

[Landroval]

How are men justified?

Ooooo
Oooo
Me! I know this one!

[Origen]

How are men justified?Poorly

[Homesteaded]

When those atrocities are done in the name of jesus and/or god? I would certainly do so. It's not what one teaches that manifests, it is how another interprets it.
This will not help those confused with the fiction that is the bible.
I feel sorry for thee.

Well I suggest you lay those on men instead of Jesus.

[Duik]

Well I suggest you lay those on men instead of Jesus.

Silly boy. Jesus is just mans manifestation of a fictional character to alay his irrational fear of death.

[Trexller]

How are men justified?

Go ahead, physically over power me and force me to submit to your will.

Oh, you found out that I am able to resist all attempts to damage me in single combat?

I require no further justification.

those who were born lacking the physical constitution to turn the tables on the assailant, are those who must justify their existence.

these same people, require the Protection of MEN.

[aussenseiter]

Go ahead, physically over power me and force me to submit to your will.

Oh, you found out that I am able to resist all attempts to damage me in single combat?

I require no further justification.

those who were born lacking the physical constitution to turn the tables on the assailant, are those who must justify their existence.

these same people, require the Protection of MEN.

Thus the hippopotamus is the true King of the jungle.

Or am I allowed to use tools?

[Botten]

Well I suggest you lay those on men instead of Jesus.

Jesus was made up,

and would you really admit to worshiping some Walking Dead zombie?

No you would put that thing down before it infected another!

And back in the day, the Bible arguably was equivalent to the written fantasy session of a 4chan. With one of the stories about a drunk dad trying to have kids with his daughters in a cave Â… ewe

[Botten]

Go ahead, physically over power me and force me to submit to your will.

Oh, you found out that I am able to resist all attempts to damage me in single combat?

I require no further justification.

those who were born lacking the physical constitution to turn the tables on the assailant, are those who must justify their existence.

these same people, require the Protection of MEN.

Is this your Match or E-Harmony profile?

You may want to state Top somewhere in there because it reads pretty beta.

[Origen]

If you think world domination has dick to do with fighting fairly, you've got eternal teenage boy syndrome

It's never fair and all of us are currently reaping the benefits of that unfairness

[Elizondo]

Cringe Coffee Shop Atheists spamming this thread with pure nonsense

[Homesteaded]

Jesus was made up? Pretty wild claim.

Your understanding of the Story of Lot is really not good.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

They stand for nothing and support the status quo

For the benefit of Mr. Kite, there will be a show tonight
on contradicting statements.

Aussenseiter says:
The fires only started after Luther committed liturgical arsony, thank you.

Listen you, if you want me to think Martin Luther came before the Spanish Inquisition b/c that's what the Church teaches, you Papist nutlicker, you are going to have to do better. Failure to ignite Papist booster, sir.

Meanwhile up on banjo mountain:
Well I suggest you lay those on men instead of Jesus.

Serious question. Why? Why do you suggest that tack?

Trexx gets butch:
those who were born lacking the physical constitution to turn the tables on the assailant, are those who must justify their existence.

these same people, require the Protection of MEN.

Sir, I'm going to need you to put down The Portable Nietzsche. Yes sir, I understand you are finding it interesting, but right now I need you to put it down for me, ok?


And finally, the usual topper and final thought. Origen does the honors.
It's never fair and all of us are currently reaping the benefits of that unfairness
https://i.imgur.com/Em9rzpz.jpg

[Nibblewitz]

No respect for wisdom these days.

[aussenseiter]

Aussenseiter says:

The fires only started after Luther committed liturgical arsony, thank you.

Listen you, if you want me to think Martin Luther came before the Spanish Inquisition b/c that's what the Church teaches, you Papist nutlicker, you are going to have to do better. Failure to ignite Papist booster, sir.

The Roman Inquisition, an agency established in 1542, was designed chiefly to combat Protestantism, which was conceived and defined as heresy in Catholic territories. (https://www.britannica.com/event/Counter-Reformation/Inquisition)

[aussenseiter]

FFNoDsOmluA

[Elizondo]

22291

[aussenseiter]

Let's not pretend the Iberian reconquista was an internal Church matter.

Remember the few at Roncevaux!

https://vonbibra.net/bibra/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Roland-966x1536.jpg

(My cats namesake)

[Botten]

22291

On the foreign front it looks familiar (https://allanishac.medium.com/looking-fatigued-president-walks-into-vietnamese-dinner-wearing-only-pajamas-236b23fafe29)

22292

I actually think it is worse when Trump wears it

[aussenseiter]

On the foreign front it looks familiar (https://allanishac.medium.com/looking-fatigued-president-walks-into-vietnamese-dinner-wearing-only-pajamas-236b23fafe29)

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22292&d=1689216098

TRUTH IN SATIRE

[Elizondo]

lol "But Trump"

Embarrassing Reply

[aussenseiter]

lol "But Trump"

Embarrassing Reply

Article is fake tho. Medium stinks.

[Duik]

If you think world domination has dick to do with fighting fairly, you've got eternal teenage boy syndrome

It's never fair and all of us are currently reaping the benefits of that unfairness

Too right, muskrat, bozos and cuckerburg own more people than own them. BJJ or not.
Someone once told me id own you in a "Fair fight" (tis true too, they would...) I said see ya in the carpark, on a random night then fucker. Im weak granted, but not stupid. Say hello to my plank with nails in it cocksucker.

[Botten]

Article is fake tho. Medium stinks.

Like they would bother to read it. You give too much credit to a sad bunch who does nothing more than cringe clichés.

Same team that whines about what mustard Obama used.

Doesn’t matter it looks like the biggest gotcha is the current horrible motivation they got going to the polls in 2024.

[Crepido]

einfach mal Fresse halten

[Botten]

einfach mal Fresse halten

Num dolet veritas?

[Origen]

Your understanding of the Story of Lot is really not good.As is your understanding of the Holy Bible, considering the hatred you tend to spew

[aussenseiter]

Tom Cruise is striking for better wages and working conditions. (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/business/media/sag-aftra-writers-strike.html)

[Toxigen]

YOU GOT EM NOW!!!!11!!!

[Homesteaded]

As is your understanding of the Holy Bible, considering the hatred you tend to spew

My understanding of The Bible grows.

[aussenseiter]

YOU GOT EM NOW!!!!11!!!

Only if rob laughs. :p

[arvidez]

a bumper sticker suggested i should 'follow those looking for God and run from those who find him'. not sure it was good advice, but it is a reflex now.

[Origen]

a bumper sticker suggested i should 'follow those looking for God and run from those who find him'. not sure it was good advice, but it is a reflex now.I have probably mentioned this before, but I like the neatness of "Religion makes good people better and bad people worse."

Only if rob laughs. :pNope

[Ooloo]

I have probably mentioned this before, but I like the neatness of "Religion makes good people better and bad people worse."


Probably true. Also though, (and I'm saying this as an atheist) atheism carries it's own set of dangers. Would you rather a hypothetical dictator be god-fearing, or an atheist? If he's god fearing, that might temper some of his worst impulses because he fears punishment in the afterlife. Of course, it might also make him take terrible actions (see: islamists, christians during the crusades etc..) because he believes he'll get some kind of divine reward.

On the other hand, the atheist dictator is kind of a wild card. The fact that he's a dictator in the first place probably means he's quite a jerk, and if he doesn't fear the afterlife he'll be more likely to indulge any terrible whim he might have, because in his mind nothing matters once he's dead.

So I think on balance I'd prefer my dictators to be religious over atheist, but neither is ideal. As douglas murray put it; when you remove god and religion, that doesn't mean that what fills the hole is going to be something better.

[Origen]

I know what you mean. Even before I began speaking to God again, I was usually cautious enough to call myself agnostic rather than atheist. Atheism seems so sure. I don't think anyone should be that sure about anything, positive or negative.

Smart people improve their ideology by tempering them with doubts, or even changing their minds based on evidence... but idiots are sure

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The Roman Inquisition, an agency established in 1542, was designed chiefly to combat Protestantism, which was conceived and defined as heresy in Catholic territories. (https://www.britannica.com/event/Counter-Reformation/Inquisition)

Spanish. Spanish Inquisition. It was how Spain de-jewed and de-moored itself. You are talking about a counter-reformation precursor. Because no shit the Catholic Church didn't like Martin Luther. But saying that squabble is where the fires came form, or the image of the burning stake, is obtuse, and incorrect.

This thread needs clarity folks.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I know what you mean. Even before I began speaking to God again, I was usually cautious enough to call myself agnostic rather than atheist. Atheism seems so sure. I don't think anyone should be that sure about anything, positive or negative.

Smart people improve their ideology by tempering them with doubts, or even changing their minds based on evidence... but idiots are sure

I've been places and did some things. But a supreme way to mark yourself as the idiot at any philosophy or theology conference I've been to, just say "I'm an atheist!"

Unless you are neo-Miltonian and are writing postmodern religious epic poetry, an "atheist" is the cognitive equivalent of someone who draws a brick wall on a piece of paper, then tapes that piece of paper to an actual brick wall, and proceeds to proudly bash their head against it.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I swear that analogy works. Give it time.

[unsunghero]

Doesn’t apply here, but I see this sort of argument a lot

“That doesn’t seem very Christian-like”

“Don’t you think Christianity is a false belief in sky fairies and despise it?”

You have to pick one. Either Christianity is fake/evil or it’s it good, can’t be both at once

[Landroval]

I thank God daily for helping me survive the worst pandemic the world has ever seen.

[Ooloo]

Doesn’t apply here, but I see this sort of argument a lot

“That doesn’t seem very Christian-like”

“Don’t you think Christianity is a false belief in sky fairies and despise it?”

You have to pick one. Either Christianity is fake/evil or it’s it good, can’t be both at once

Lol yes definitely, I see that all the time and it's super annoying. People who outright despise a religion lecturing it's members on what it *really* means.

Like yes christians believe in loving your neighbor, but it's not unconditional love. It wouldn't be "love" to tell a heroin addict that what they're doing is fine and to never judge them. Love might actually mean telling them that if they don't stop they aren't invited to timmy's 10th birthday party.

Same thing with christian opposition to all the lgbtq stuff. Most of them aren't actively wishing that you burn in hell, but rather they don't think you'll ultimately be happy in your life doing the things you're doing. And maybe they're wrong about that, but I think many people reflexively think christian (or muslim for that matter) opposition to gay lifestyles purely comes from some visceral hatred which just isn't true.

[aussenseiter]

Spanish. Spanish Inquisition. It was how Spain de-jewed and de-moored itself. You are talking about a counter-reformation precursor. Because no shit the Catholic Church didn't like Martin Luther. But saying that squabble is where the fires came form, or the image of the burning stake, is obtuse, and incorrect.

This thread needs clarity folks.

Are Jews and Muslims Christian?

bazinga

[Landroval]

March 31st 1492 Spain expels Jews.
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[unsunghero]

Lol yes definitely, I see that all the time and it's super annoying. People who outright despise a religion lecturing it's members on what it *really* means.

Like yes christians believe in loving your neighbor, but it's not unconditional love. It wouldn't be "love" to tell a heroin addict that what they're doing is fine and to never judge them. Love might actually mean telling them that if they don't stop they aren't invited to timmy's 10th birthday party.

Same thing with christian opposition to all the lgbtq stuff. Most of them aren't actively wishing that you burn in hell, but rather they don't think you'll ultimately be happy in your life doing the things you're doing. And maybe they're wrong about that, but I think many people reflexively think christian (or muslim for that matter) opposition to gay lifestyles purely comes from some visceral hatred which just isn't true.

Interestingly enough, I have this die hard Christian therapist woman on my FB who posts stuff like this a lot

[Landroval]

Universal unconditional love is indistinguishable from universal indifference. This also means that you should unconditionally love bigots, rapists, murderers, thieves, racists, pedos, cannibals, etc if you're gonna go strawmanning the Christian ethos.

This means there's nothing really to say on any matter, whatsoever, including your critique of the ones you Levi this strawman against.

[Homesteaded]

I know what you mean. Even before I began speaking to God again, I was usually cautious enough to call myself agnostic rather than atheist. Atheism seems so sure. I don't think anyone should be that sure about anything, positive or negative.

Smart people improve their ideology by tempering them with doubts, or even changing their minds based on evidence... but idiots are sure

I've also been on this path. Agnostic was always my thought for a long time after being raised catholic. Had a lot of pain early in life that planted seeds of doubt. But I think deep down I always had a connection to God that I couldn't shake. Only after I've grown and matured was I able to throw my ego aside(work in progress) and admit that it's okay and having trust in a higher power has real value.

The way you claim I spew hate here really doesn't sit well with me. I'm not sure what you think I've said that is so hateful.

[Landroval]

I've also been on this path. Agnostic was always my thought for a long time after being raised catholic. Had a lot of pain early in life that planted seeds of doubt. But I think deep down I always had a connection to God that I couldn't shake. Only after I've grown and matured was I able to throw my ego aside(work in progress) and admit that it's okay and having trust in a higher power has real value.

The way you claim I spew hate here really doesn't sit well with me. I'm not sure what you think I've said that is so hateful.
It's called projectionism

[aussenseiter]

indifference.

🤩🤩🤩

[Trexller]

For those who so often forget, this is what it looks like when a job is done right:

PdJqoci0vik

[Origen]

The way you claim I spew hate here really doesn't sit well with me. I'm not sure what you think I've said that is so hateful.Mainly the arrogant and presumptuous things you say about Muslims, trans people, gay people, and people of color. Choose your words more carefully about those people if it doesn't sit well with you.

It's called projectionismThink whatever you want, but I will always fight conservatives any way I can. Conservative isn't a race, they aren't being oppressed, and if I could oppress them I would.

[Ooloo]

Think whatever you want, but I will always fight conservatives any way I can. Conservative isn't a race, they aren't being oppressed, and if I could oppress them I would.

Why conservatives? I mean, I'm sure there are things in your life and things about the world that you'd like to conserve, right? Gay marriage is now protected, don't you want to conserve that? Are you not therefor conservative, at least on that issue?

I'm only partially being obtuse, I'm sure you'd say conservatives are hateful or whatever, but honestly everybody is part conservative and part liberal, it all just comes down to specifics and priorities.

I think the political lexicon just needs an overhaul when terms like "black white supremacist" are being used unironically.

[Homesteaded]

Mainly the arrogant and presumptuous things you say about Muslims, trans people, gay people, and people of color. Choose your words more carefully about those people if it doesn't sit well with you.

Well, I suspect you're claiming any type of criticisms levied on those groups of people is then converted to hate speech. I would ask you to show some proof but it's difficult to post receipts of arguments you yourself have fabricated in your head.

Or perhaps you will claim that since I'm not a part of any of those groups my opinion is invalid.

[unsunghero]

For those who so often forget, this is what it looks like when a job is done right:



Suspect died? Shucks

I mean, good riddance

[aussenseiter]

Murderer sues for wrongful death (https://apnews.com/article/portland-protests-fatal-shooting-lawsuit-7c9244836bc4e08c8c5ae4cfcaaea5c8)

[Landroval]

Mainly the arrogant and presumptuous things you say about Muslims, trans people, gay people, and people of color. Choose your words more carefully about those people if it doesn't sit well with you.

Think whatever you want, but I will always fight conservatives any way I can. Conservative isn't a race, they aren't being oppressed, and if I could oppress them I would.
You're officially retarded. And I unconditionally love you.

[Landroval]

Murderer sues for wrongful death (https://apnews.com/article/portland-protests-fatal-shooting-lawsuit-7c9244836bc4e08c8c5ae4cfcaaea5c8)

I'm unconditionally loving both Reinoehl, the cops who shot him, and Danielson right now

[Landroval]

I'm unconditionally loving both Reinoehl, the cops who shot him, and Danielson right now

In before "but at least two of those people you listed are dead"

Loving them for being alive still would be a condition.

[aussenseiter]

Mainly the arrogant and presumptuous things you say about Muslims, trans people, gay people, and people of color. Choose your words more carefully about those people if it doesn't sit well with you.

Think whatever you want, but I will always fight conservatives any way I can. Conservative isn't a race, they aren't being oppressed, and if I could oppress them I would.

Drink the bitter water (https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/)

[Landroval]

Drink the bitter water (https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/)

They arrived at Marah but couldn’t drink the water there, because it was bitter. This is why they called it Marah [bitterness]. The people grumbled against Moshe and asked, “What are we to drink?” Moshe cried to Adonai; and Adonai showed him a certain piece of wood, which, when he threw it into the water, made the water taste good. There Adonai made laws and rules of life for them, and there he tested them.
Sh'mot (Exo) 15:23*-‬25 CJB

https://bible.com/bible/1275/exo.15.23-25.CJB

[Origen]

Why conservatives? I mean, I'm sure there are things in your life and things about the world that you'd like to conserve, right? Gay marriage is now protected, don't you want to conserve that? Are you not therefor conservative, at least on that issue?

I'm only partially being obtuse, I'm sure you'd say conservatives are hateful or whatever, but honestly everybody is part conservative and part liberal, it all just comes down to specifics and priorities.

I think the political lexicon just needs an overhaul when terms like "black white supremacist" are being used unironically.I agree with you on a basic level. There's nothing inherently hateful about conservatism as a concept. I am referring only to conservatism in the context of American political ideology. I have some conservative opinions on things, too.

I agree with you about the lexicon. English has the most words of any language, I've heard. It needs more. It'll probably get harder for you, not easier. Language is crowdsourced. Internet terminology is polluting normie world because of smartphones.

Well, I suspect you're claiming any type of criticisms levied on those groups of people is then converted to hate speech. I would ask you to show some proof but it's difficult to post receipts of arguments you yourself have fabricated in your head.

Or perhaps you will claim that since I'm not a part of any of those groups my opinion is invalid.That post where all you said is "Culture" as a response is an example, that's not in my head. That may be criticism, but it's not constructive, and it's so broad it reads as pretty bigoted. Especially in light of the other things you've said about other groups of people, all of whom are exactly the groups of people right-wing media tells the viewer to disdain.

[Origen]

You're officially retarded. And I unconditionally love you.Thank you. If I had a dollar for every time someone cautioned me "you might be on the spectrum" I wouldn't have had to go back to work. You shouldn't use that word, though.

[Trexller]

There sure is alot of police body cam video on youtube

but I sure can't get ahold of this "common denominator" in all the shootout videos...

maybe sharper eyes can connect the dots

cEOEYTG9Iug

[Landroval]

I agree with you on a basic level. There's nothing inherently hateful about conservatism as a concept. I am referring only to conservatism in the context of American political ideology. I have some conservative opinions on things, too.

I agree with you about the lexicon. English has the most words of any language, I've heard. It needs more. It'll probably get harder for you, not easier. Language is crowdsourced. Internet terminology is polluting normie world because of smartphones.

That post where all you said is "Culture" as a response is an example, that's not in my head. That may be criticism, but it's not constructive, and it's so broad it reads as pretty bigoted. Especially in light of the other things you've said about other groups of people, all of whom are exactly the groups of people right-wing media tells the viewer to disdain.
Nothing wrong with conservatives. You should work on your unconditional loving.

[Trexller]

Boy, you know I sure can't figure out what the main theme here is:

eux7URalQsM

[Landroval]

Thank you. If I had a dollar for every time someone cautioned me "you might be on the spectrum" I wouldn't have had to go back to work. You shouldn't use that word, though.

Don't be trying to condition my love, retard. I unconditionally love you, even though you're retarded

[Trexller]

It must be all those Amish kids out there causin a ruckus with their gats and their bling tryin to get da dollas for da hoes.

yeah, Damn Amish kids.

[Origen]

Nothing wrong with conservatives. You should work on your unconditional loving.Not until you introduce capitalism into the equation, anyways. Then they get all kinds of fucked up. All criticism comes from a place of love.

[unsunghero]

Murderer sues for wrongful death (https://apnews.com/article/portland-protests-fatal-shooting-lawsuit-7c9244836bc4e08c8c5ae4cfcaaea5c8)

“Law enforcement officers in “militia-style fatigues” raced through a quiet residential neighborhood in unmarked vehicles, the lawsuit said: “Meanwhile, the officers sprayed more than 40 bullets through the neighborhood, killing (Reinoehl), grazing a child playing nearby, and striking cars, fences, backyard playground equipment, buildings, and residences.”

At least five bullets struck him, the lawsuit said.

A Washington state prosecutor decided not to file criminal charges against police who shot and killed him”

- The choice to shoot might be in question, but it’s so fucking stupid to point fingers at how many shots are fired or where the suspect was hit

I think even Joe Biden one time asked why cops couldn’t just shoot suspects in the leg. Why not shoot the gun out of their hand? Why not shoot their belt buckle off so their pants fall down and embarrass them like in the cartoons?

Fucking ridiculous. You shoot for center mass and don’t stop until the target is down

[Landroval]

Not until you introduce capitalism into the equation, anyways. Then they get all kinds of fucked up. All criticism comes from a place of love.

But you support the status quo of capitalism.

When Jews faked a pandemic and started launching rhetoric about forced vaccination upon the entire global populace to bolster their stock prices (see Moderna and Pfizer before and after "the pandemic") you supported that.

You support capitalism when it's your brand of capitalism, and you shouldnt be putting conditions on your unconditional loving in any regard.

You call it "capitalism" when it's the kind of Jewish bullshit you disagree with, but it's just "democracy" when it's the kind of Jewish bullshit you agree with

[aussenseiter]

“Law enforcement officers in “militia-style fatigues” raced through a quiet residential neighborhood in unmarked vehicles, the lawsuit said: “Meanwhile, the officers sprayed more than 40 bullets through the neighborhood, killing (Reinoehl), grazing a child playing nearby, and striking cars, fences, backyard playground equipment, buildings, and residences.”

At least five bullets struck him, the lawsuit said.

A Washington state prosecutor decided not to file criminal charges against police who shot and killed him”

- The choice to shoot might be in question, but it’s so fucking stupid to point fingers at how many shots are fired or where the suspect was hit

I think even Joe Biden one time asked why cops couldn’t just shoot suspects in the leg. Why not shoot the gun out of their hand? Why not shoot their belt buckle off so their pants fall down and embarrass them like in the cartoons?

Fucking ridiculous. You shoot for center mass and don’t stop until the target is down

But their pants were military style.

[unsunghero]

But their pants were military style.

Lol oh yea, how dare police wear gear meant to intimidate

I was at a work training with police years ago and the cop admin said “we don’t really even use most of this gear that’s strapped all over my vest here, we wear it because it’s intimidating”

They should have cops wearing clown costumes with shoes that squeak :)

[Origen]

But you support the status quo of capitalism.

When Jews faked a pandemic and started launching rhetoric about forced vaccination upon the entire global populace to bolster their stock prices (see Moderna and Pfizer before and after "the pandemic") you supported that.

You support capitalism when it's your brand of capitalism, and you shouldnt be putting conditions on your unconditional loving in any regard.

You call it "capitalism" when it's the kind of Jewish bullshit you disagree with, but it's just "democracy" when it's the kind of Jewish bullshit you agree withAnd just like that, the racist bullshit is back.

Also, I support mandatory vaccination because it's the quickest path to destroying capitalism and an immunocompromised person is important to me. I'm a utilitarian. You use the weapons of the oppressor to resist oppression

[Trexller]

Fucking ridiculous. You shoot for center mass and don’t stop until the target is down

not only down, but ceases movement.

this is police training 101

bleeding heart liberals only knowledge of gun fights is John Wick films, unless you're shot through the cortex, you are fully capable of returning gun fire.

These idiots watch John Wick and think that any contact with a bullet immediately drops a person.

If police have to fire their weapon, they are not negotiating, they are not playing mercy games. They shoot with full intention of ending that person's life.

Joe Biden is a fucking idiot.

[Trexller]

And just like that, the racist bullshit is back.

Also, I support mandatory vaccination because it's the quickest path to destroying capitalism and an immunocompromised person is important to me. I'm a utilitarian. You use the weapons of the oppressor to resist oppression

sits at keyboard and bitches all day

that'll stick it to the man

[Homesteaded]

Classic liberal filth. Deny what your eyes see because it might offend an overly sensitive person.

If you can’t admit that certain cultures who are responsible for way more violent crimes when you look at the number of them that are walking around.

[Elizondo]

Low T Beta just whines about Conservatives and Capitalism all day on elf boards

Super boring and monotonous

[Origen]

Every time you look behind the curtain with these alt-right cowards, just bigotry and hatred.

May God have mercy on your souls, fascists.

[Origen]

Low T Beta just whines about Conservatives and Capitalism all day on elf boards

Super boring and monotonousSpice it up, my low IQ friend, by telling us about your high T love life with a crusty sock

[Botten]

Classic liberal filth. Deny what your eyes see because it might offend an overly sensitive person.

If you can’t admit that certain cultures who are responsible for way more violent crimes when you look at the number of them that are walking around.

The irony, Christianity blantantly responsible for horrific wars, death and torture.

crusades, inquisition and more.

Ah hell...
"Patriotism and Christianity are preeminently
the moving principles of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

The Flag, the Constitution and the Holy Bible
are the keystone of Klan principles."

I too had a family heavily into the bible. But my pursuit in science had provable explanations.

Understanding what caused cancer in a four year old is no longer a shrug with the cold statement, "Well God works in mysterious ways and he has a plan for everyone. Or they are in a better place now."

For me now it is - (best quoted as) “I wasn't born into the God business, I f***ing earned it.”

We have catered cures coming very soon!

And don't worry conservatives you don't need to take anything that saves your life; no one made you take it before.

[Trexller]

Botten if you put half the effort into your wife that you do your posts, she would probably cheat less.

obv she's still gonna cheat, you're a poor excuse for a male. but if you gave her half the attention that you give to this forum, maybe she would at least feel bad about it.

[Botten]

Botten if you put half the effort into your wife that you do your posts, she would probably cheat less.

obv she's still gonna cheat, you're a poor excuse for a male. but if you gave her half the attention that you give to this forum, maybe she would at least feel bad about it.

I think your pep talks to yourself are hilarious. :)

Go ahead, physically over power me and force me to submit to your will.

Oh, you found out that I am able to resist all attempts to damage me in single combat?

I require no further justification.

those who were born lacking the physical constitution to turn the tables on the assailant, are those who must justify their existence.

these same people, require the Protection of MEN.

[Ekco]

The irony, Christianity blantantly responsible for horrific wars, death and torture.


the abrahamic religions are also responsible for the entirety of civilized society. some might even argue there is an overwhelmingly amount of good in the world because of them.

[Elizondo]

Spice it up, my low IQ friend, by telling us about your high T love life with a crusty sock

You even post like a female

Prolly have bigger boobs than your wife

[Botten]

the abrahamic religions are also responsible for the entirety of civilized society. some might even argue there is an overwhelmingly amount of good in the world because of them.

Sadly same can't be said about Christianity. ;)

Ep1oktyqBpc

[Origen]

You even post like a female

Prolly have bigger boobs than your wifeGosh darn it, it almost seems like you're being elusive about your high T love life with a sock. Is it at least a clean sock?

[Botten]

You even post like a female

Prolly have bigger boobs than your wife

Are you hitting on him?!?

[aussenseiter]

Sadly same can't be said about Christianity. ;)

Ep1oktyqBpc

What about Copernicus?

[Elizondo]

Gosh darn it, it almost seems like you're being elusive about your high T love life with a sock. Is it at least a clean sock?

You keep posting like a female

It's hilarious

[Trexller]

I think your pep talks to yourself are hilarious. :)

lol sit and laugh while your wife takes a BBC, you probably like getting cucked.

it's not my life, or wife.

[unsunghero]

Watch out or bans inc, IMO

[Origen]

You keep posting like a female

It's hilariousSingle man accuses married man of having low t
Married man asks single man to elaborate on his high t lifestyle
Single man panics and avoids the question despite bringing it up for some craaaazy reason

Anyways, I'm going to bed (with my wife), give your sock a kiss for me 💋

[Elizondo]

Single man accuses married man of having low t
Married man asks single man to elaborate on his high t lifestyle
Single man panics and avoids the question despite bringing it up for some craaaazy reason

Anyways, I'm going to bed (with my wife), give your sock a kiss for me 💋

You are a low T Beta Feminist

You've admitted this

[Homesteaded]

Sadly same can't be said about Christianity. ;)

Ep1oktyqBpc

Ahh yes the bulletproof argument of a Family Guy scene. Well boys, this wraps it up, guess we lost this one. Shucks.

[Botten]

Ahh yes the bulletproof argument of a Family Guy scene. Well boys, this wraps it up, guess we lost this one. Shucks.

Crazy satire has it’s place especially for those that express zealot like tendencies. You know extreme for extreme.

[Origen]

You are a low T Beta Feminist

You've admitted thisD7MMuv6mz8I

[mcoy]

Crazy satire has it’s place especially for those that express zealot like tendencies. You know extreme for extreme.

5t_9HTqRDDg

-Mcoy

[Homesteaded]

The funny thing that I think you overlook is the absolute boon Christianity has had on the progress in science. Your argument is hilariously bad. The entire scientific method can be credited to The Church. Your argument relies on the assumption that without the church the world would just ascend to a state of peace. Not sure what you see in history that supports that idea.

[Ooloo]

G.K Chesterton quote that I found quite intriguing:

"The problem of disbelieving in God is not that man ends up believing nothing. Alas, it's much worse. He ends up believing anything."

Does quite a bit to explain why when I look around today, as an atheist, the religious people don't seem like the crazy ones in the room anymore. The ostensibly secular people peddling their various radical social theories and trying to enshrine them in law seem far crazier.

[Origen]

We all owe Islam a debt for mathematics and science. Alhamdulillah.

[Flowe]

Yea what this time. Still not going to work. He won't get cheated out of a election. Super court has the evidence. Bidin on the way out. Voting fraud. Why not Biden being charged with interfering with Ukraine. Has him saying it on TV. NAZI party at work. At least that is was this looks like . NAZI Germany all over again.

[Bardp1999]

Is Trump in jail yet? How many years did he get? I'm confused though because I saw him on the UFC broadcast this weekend and he was looking strong and ready to lead.

[Botten]

The funny thing that I think you overlook is the absolute boon Christianity has had on the progress in science. Your argument is hilariously bad. The entire scientific method can be credited to The Church. Your argument relies on the assumption that without the church the world would just ascend to a state of peace. Not sure what you see in history that supports that idea.

No, but I can see why you would confuse this when it was Dinesh D'Souza who said:

"Why did science arise here and nowhere else? In his September 12, 2006, speech in Rosenberg, Germany, Pope Benedict XVI argued that it was due to Christianity's emphasis on the importance of reason...modern science is an invention of medieval Christianity, and that the greatest breakthroughs in scientific reason have largely been the work of Christians." (pgs. 83-84)

Actually! Persians could be credited with the most modern version of the scientific method. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_scientific_method#Ibn_al-Haytham)

Explicit statement of a problem, tied to observation and to proof by experiment

Testing and/or criticism of a hypothesis using experimentation

Interpretation of data and formulation of a conclusion using mathematics

The publication of the findings

If that isn't the scientific method, I don't know what is! Even before that, Aristotle championed an empirical method of scientific thinking. Which absolutely predates even the concept of Christianity. Not to mention that science and technology was also flourishing in China and India with no influence from the West or any Christian influences. And it has been argued by some that it was actually the influences of the far east that were transported over by the ancient Muslim scholars that kicked off the Renaissance (as opposed to the Muslim scholars preserving the ancient Greek ideas only).

And as for Christianity without it some other evil would have arisen with some other name to associate the death and torture. This could argue that man is liable and not the overall teachings of Christianity. But some of these teachings have examples and justification as long as it was in GodÂ’s name to take up these types of revenge or resolution in their manual (The Bible). But would you really want to support these teaches when knowing what has occurred in its name? Further more some of those teachings from their literature push these horribly graphic altercations.

[Toxigen]

Is Trump in jail yet? How many years did he get? I'm confused though because I saw him on the UFC broadcast this weekend and he was looking strong and ready to lead.

they've got em now!!1!!111!!!

[Botten]

they've got em now!!1!!111!!!

Getting him oh no, LoL, no no that gives the conservatives what they need for closure.

Trump was not arrested and handcuffed; instead, he surrendered himself and showed up to his arraignment. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-arraignment-wasnt-arrested-no-mugshot/)

And isn't this display of surrendering the point to be pushed to the voters?
In fact an imagery of loss encouragement.

Chipping away at Trump's platform; his presentation to his followers.
IE - Showing constant unfolding corruptible acts performed by this man makes the voters perceive themselves as corrupt if they are fooled into voting for this individual again. To show a sense of normality to mock those who still are fooled by him?

Don't hand him down a sentence until he is accepted by a majority as an embarrassment. That he has no chance of winning after yet another presidential bid resulting in a lose.

If he was to be handed down a punishment right away or to pass on this would make him the martyr the GOP voters really need to energize their base.

There is no incentive to inspire anything about this guy but instead to push further - a sense that there is no reason to even show up and even vote.

The house, senate and executive administration unwaverably needs to go the democrats in larger numbers to further push the correct progressive agenda that is suppose to be seen as normalism.

Keeping a history of examples of scandal by a party is important.. Nixon... Bush... and now Trump.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The way you claim I spew hate here really doesn't sit well with me. I'm not sure what you think I've said that is so hateful.

Classic liberal filth. Deny what your eyes see because it might offend an overly sensitive person.

If you can’t admit that certain cultures who are responsible for way more violent crimes when you look at the number of them that are walking around.

I am gonna guess you want brownie points cuz you used the word "cultures" instead of "ethnic groups" or "races."

rofl. no. You think you know who the enemy is. And you think they are among us. And only fools do not see them, clearly.

Why do you hate democracy Homesteaded? Ain't nothin' but a party ya'll.

[aussenseiter]

I am gonna guess you want brownie points cuz you used the word "cultures" instead of "ethnic groups" or "races."

rofl. no. You think you know who the enemy is. And you think they are among us. And only fools do not see them, clearly.

Why do you hate democracy Homesteaded? Ain't nothin' but a party ya'll.

democracy has a small D?

[aussenseiter]

The house, senate and executive administration unwaverably needs to go the democrats in larger numbers to further push the correct progressive agenda that is suppose to be seen as normalism.

Democracy

[Origen]

democracy has a small D?American democracy does, yes. The micropenis of America is evident in the chest-beating arrogance of American exceptionalism

[Landroval]

No, but I can see why you would confuse this when it was Dinesh D'Souza who said:



Actually! Persians could be credited with the most modern version of the scientific method. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_scientific_method#Ibn_al-Haytham)



If that isn't the scientific method, I don't know what is! Even before that, Aristotle championed an empirical method of scientific thinking. Which absolutely predates even the concept of Christianity. Not to mention that science and technology was also flourishing in China and India with no influence from the West or any Christian influences. And it has been argued by some that it was actually the influences of the far east that were transported over by the ancient Muslim scholars that kicked off the Renaissance (as opposed to the Muslim scholars preserving the ancient Greek ideas only).

And as for Christianity without it some other evil would have arisen with some other name to associate the death and torture. This could argue that man is liable and not the overall teachings of Christianity. But some of these teachings have examples and justification as long as it was in GodÂ’s name to take up these types of revenge or resolution in their manual (The Bible). But would you really want to support these teaches when knowing what has occurred in its name? Further more some of those teachings from their literature push these horribly graphic altercations.
https://youtu.be/Yat0ZKduW18

I strongly suggest you watch this series of lectures.

Prior to Christianity, and still today, essentially all spiritual systems with perhaps the exception of Islam, are attempts to obtain "perfection" of platonic ideals firsthand, declaring that it is possible to attain perfected virtues promulgated by the dogma of their respective religious doctrines.

If you understand platonic idealism, which I have provided numerous examples on this forum to date, of what that means, then it becomes rather apparent that all religions outside of the ethos of Christianity assert that man is capable of obtaining this perfection firsthand.

Christianity subsumed it's predecessors in the acknowledgement that the perfection of God can only exist in the realm of ideals, and all attempts to reify this perfection in this shared delusion we call "reality" fail, only approximating perfection at best.

This is the Crux of the limit of scientific knowledge as well, which is why is springs from Christianity, itself acknowledging that even quantifiable measurements, can only be approximated to correspond with the shared delusion of reality.

[Landroval]

Subsequently, if you believe in t;)he infallibility of science, reconcile QM to SR...NOW. provide us with a comprehensive scientific theory of everything. If you can't, suck a dick, your "science" is, at best, an approximation.

[Landroval]

Even McIntyre admits that Thomas Aquinas has made more progress in concept of Plato's idealism, as it relates to "Virtue" than any other single person in the history of both religion and philosophy, and he was a devout Catholic who has doen far more in his life than you have quarterbacking retarded political issues as the bulk of you entire life's work.

Just shut up already, athiest retard. Aristotle was a deist.

[Origen]

Imagine thinking you're a good Christian while being blatantly anti-Semitic

Maybe read the actual Holy Bible, conservatives?

[Landroval]

Imagine thinking you're a good Christian while being blatantly anti-Semitic

Maybe read the actual Holy Bible, conservatives?

Never said I was a good Christian, homo. "Good" is an absolute no one living in this world is capable of.

[Origen]

Well, that's on you, bigot, I sure am! Feels great!

[Landroval]

Well, that's on you, bigot, I sure am! Feels great!

And you're an antichristiab bigot. So we're even Steven

[Landroval]

In order for "science" to invalidate Christianity, it would have to disprove the supersymmetry of the universe, which it corroborates, so deal with it.

[Landroval]

On that note, within the Old Testament, prior to Talmudic revisionists anti-christian bias, homosexuality is expressly forbidden, under the penalty of death. It's not a position that can be pilpuld under the Talmudic lens. So being a pro-semitic homo is a valid contradiction to the tenants of semitic faith regardless of what any fucking rabbi says about it. The advent of Christianity from the Israelite underpinnings of the Old Testament affords you "tolerance" that does not exist in israelitism. Jews don't practice israelitism, or else they would have annual temple sacrifices as mandated in Levitical law.

[Landroval]

So, given the fact that the punishment for homosexuality, by Levitical law is death by stoning, I find it a bit contradictory for you to be pro-semitic, while at the same time eschewing Christianity which teaches tolerance and forgiveness of breaches in biblical law. Your retard is showing.

Are you angry at Christians for not stoning you to death for your deviant lifestyle or something? Or are you just butthurt that it's mentioned in the Jewish part of the bible? I don't get it.

[Toxigen]

yuo gottem nao !!!!!

[Ooloo]

We all owe Islam a debt for mathematics and science. Alhamdulillah.

Iirc it's more like we owe them a debt for preserving mathematics and science during a period of history when almost everything from ancient civilization had been lost, not for inventing it. Islam isn't that old of a religion, I think it's more accurate to credit that preservation of knowledge to pre-islamic arabs. Islam, as a religion, quickly outlawed many of those scientific pursuits once it became powerful. Math and science were quickly made haram once they could.

[Landroval]

It's should also be mentioned that Aristotle and Plato were both Eugenicists. In The Republic, Plato argues that children born with deformities should be thrown from atop a cliff and their life dashed on the rocks of the chasm below, for defective offspring hamper the strength of the nation state.

[Landroval]

They are also ethno-nationalists.

As are Jews, who literally have their own ethnostate, along with Torah laws in deuteronomy 23 with bylaws on how to reintegrate race-mixers which is where the origin of the theory of hypodescent comes from

[Toxigen]

the sand people still throw gays off buildings

hope this helps

[Landroval]

Ever seen the movie "300"? The reason the story is told in the narrative that it was historically recorded as, is a cautionary tale supporting eugenecism, because the retard in his inferiority complex, betrays his people, as he is easily succeptible to subterfuge out of his envy for his more able-bodied betters.

On its surface, it's a story about the valiant strength of Sparta's solidarity, but on its underside, it's a warning against allowing outliers to continue existing within that otherwise impenetrable solidarity.

[Origen]

Iirc it's more like we owe them a debt for preserving mathematics and science during a period of history when almost everything from ancient civilization had been lost, not for inventing it. Islam isn't that old of a religion, I think it's more accurate to credit that preservation of knowledge to pre-islamic arabs. Islam, as a religion, quickly outlawed many of those scientific pursuits once it became powerful. Math and science were quickly made haram once they could.I am unconcerned with your negative ignorant opinions about Islam, I prefer my positive ignorant opinions

There's little difference between the behavior of Evangelical Conservative Christians and the Islamic Fundamentalists they openly despise

[Ooloo]

There's little difference between the behavior of Evangelical Conservative Christians and the Islamic Fundamentalists they openly despise

I dunno I think there's quite a bit of difference. I agree they both oppose the same types of things, but their prescriptions for those things are quite different if we're talking about the modern day.

There are still islamic countries who execute homosexuals, like right now today. I'm not aware of any christian countries that do. This is a big part of the reason why libs railing against the evil christian homophobes kind of rings hollow.

[Landroval]

Iirc it's more like we owe them a debt for preserving mathematics and science during a period of history when almost everything from ancient civilization had been lost, not for inventing it. Islam isn't that old of a religion, I think it's more accurate to credit that preservation of knowledge to pre-islamic arabs. Islam, as a religion, quickly outlawed many of those scientific pursuits once it became powerful. Math and science were quickly made haram once they could.
A lot of the knowledge was stolen in the burning of the library of Alexandria by muslims.

If Origen actually read Origen, he would see that a large majority of the early churches writings were Christianic evolution and development of Platonic underpinnings, the larger majority, of which, were destroyed by Muslim hordes

[Trexller]

Ever seen the movie "300"? The reason the story is told in the narrative that it was historically recorded as, is a cautionary tale supporting eugenecism, because the retard in his inferiority complex, betrays his people, as he is easily succeptible to subterfuge out of his envy for his more able-bodied betters.

On its surface, it's a story about the valiant strength of Sparta's solidarity, but on its underside, it's a warning against allowing outliers to continue existing within that otherwise impenetrable solidarity.

if we're sticking to the context of the film 300, then I dunno.

Leonidas showed kindness to the hunchback dude, they didn't ridicule him, I remember Leonidas giving the hunchback a fatherly explanation as to why his form prevented him from serving, after complimenting his spear thrust.

So the hunchback dude was a bitter wretch regardless of being otherwise treated well by the Spartans.

this is a check in the throw 'em off a cliff column

[Landroval]

if we're sticking to the context of the film 300, then I dunno.

Leonidas showed kindness to the hunchback dude, they didn't ridicule him, I remember Leonidas giving the hunchback a fatherly explanation as to why his form prevented him from serving, after complimenting his spear thrust.

So the hunchback dude was a bitter wretch regardless of being otherwise treated well by the Spartans.

this is a check in the throw 'em off a cliff column

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephialtes_of_Trachis

Yeah, it's doubtful those words ever actually happened, but the betrayal of the Spartans by Ephialtes of Trachis is well documented to coincide with the actual events.

[Origen]

I dunno I think there's quite a bit of difference. I agree they both oppose the same types of things, but their prescriptions for those things are quite different if we're talking about the modern day.

There are still islamic countries who execute homosexuals, like right now today. I'm not aware of any christian countries that do. This is a big part of the reason why libs railing against the evil christian homophobes kind of rings hollow.Nah, we all know that's exactly what the Conservative Christians want to do with trans, gay, and black and brown people. Everyone can tell.

The only reason they usually don't is because of laws and consequences.

Thankfully, most of you fellas are just reactionary cowards that only share your putrid thoughts online, where it's largely safe to do so.

[Origen]

If Origen actually read Origen, he would see that a large majority of the early churches writings were Christianic evolution and development of Platonic underpinnings, the larger majority, of which, were destroyed by Muslim hordesYeah, man, it's cool you can regurgitate facts just like Wikipedia, angry Reiwa, but you obviously lack wisdom and intelligence if you're dumb enough to be the white supremacist you obviously are.

[Landroval]

Nah, we all know that's exactly what the Conservative Christians want to do with trans, gay, and black and brown people. Everyone can tell.

The only reason they usually don't is because of laws and consequences.

Thankfully, most of you fellas are just reactionary cowards that only share your putrid thoughts online, where it's largely safe to do so.

Oh the slippery slope argument

The other side of that argument is if we allow LGBT rights to exist, you'll rape children.

[Landroval]

Yeah, man, it's cool you can regurgitate facts just like Wikipedia, angry Reiwa, but you obviously lack wisdom and intelligence if you're dumb enough to be the white supremacist you obviously are.

Nah. I've actually read Contra Celsum, stromateis, philosophumena and a number of other works. That's what I'm into. Origen is my favorite early church father. I like to read the apologetics because blasphemers still use the same arguments today despite being refuted nearly 2000 years ago; like how Jesus was the son of Panthera the Roman Legionaire and the product of Mary's adultery, who, if this were true, somehow managed to come from the lowliest birth conceivable by the Jew, to being the most prominent man the history of the world has ever seen; a street rat, despite his brother James being allowed to go into the Holy of Holies to perform the annual Day of Atonement scapegoat sacrifice rituals (an honor reserved exclusively for the High Priest, until he was publicly murdered by Ananus Ben Ananus and his cohort of Pharisaical Jews some 40 years later. The public murder of James is what led to the revolts that Hadrian quelled while destroying the temple; an event the Jews still wonder at why God would punish them so badly for.

[Origen]

That's cool, I haven't even heard of that shit, but you obviously lack wisdom and intelligence if you're dumb enough to be the white supremacist you obviously are.

[Origen]

If you're desperate enough to come off as intelligent, why don't you take a selfie in front of your bookshelf?

Move your copy of Mein Kampf out of the frame first, smart guy

[aussenseiter]

Nah, we all know that's exactly what the Conservative Christians want to do with trans, gay, and black and brown people. Everyone can tell.

The only reason they usually don't is because of laws and consequences.

Thankfully, most of you fellas are just reactionary cowards that only share your putrid thoughts online, where it's largely safe to do so.

Which nations laws and consequences?

[Landroval]

That's cool, I haven't even heard of that shit, but you obviously lack wisdom and intelligence if you're dumb enough to be the white supremacist you obviously are.

Who ever said anything about being a "white supremacist"? Christianity, at it's core, is the acceptance of difference between individuals. It's not like Tikkun Olamism, the nu-core of rabbinical Talmudic Judaism, which presumes the Shekinah of God, in the creation of the universe, shattered himself into difference, and that "healing the world" necessitates forcing the world to erase all difference.

I've never stated anything about a people being superior in comparison to another. That's just how you compartmentalize it.

[Ekco]

Nah, we all know that's exactly what the Conservative Christians want to do with trans, gay, and black and brown people. Everyone can tell.

The only reason they usually don't is because of laws and consequences.

Thankfully, most of you fellas are just reactionary cowards that only share your putrid thoughts online, where it's largely safe to do so.

yes, yes. if we don't let the crossdressing mentally ill people flash their junk Infront of kids in a library you're a racist nazi.

[Landroval]

Btw, most "brown people" here on this side of the globe, are conservative christians, moron

[Ooloo]

Nah, we all know that's exactly what the Conservative Christians want to do with trans, gay, and black and brown people. Everyone can tell.

The only reason they usually don't is because of laws and consequences.

Thankfully, most of you fellas are just reactionary cowards that only share your putrid thoughts online, where it's largely safe to do so.

Huh?? There are TONS of black and brown christians.

If you oppose the killing of homosexuals, you should probably oppose the religion that still does it with state-sanctioned authority more than the religion that doesn't. Like... just sayin.