Internet addiction

[pink grapefruit]

Almost 1,000 posts; with like 1/3 of that from the past few months. On a toxic forum populated by middle-aged 4channers? I gotta get outta here guys.

Can’t do a complete digital detox rn as I need some use of computer for certain work-related things. Cold turkey app on laptop and the app time limiter thing on phone is my plan. What has worked for you in the past? Feel like I’m always bouncing from internet addiction to internet addiction. MMOs, social media, Reddit, obscure message boards.

Are most people just fine with being addicted to this stuff? I’m gonna start my yoga practice again, along with the lifting and cardio.

[Ekco]

My prolific contribution to this forum, which is a cesspool of regressive and immature discourse, has reached a critical point of diminishing returns. I must extricate myself from this deleterious environment posthaste.

However, I cannot completely sever my connection to the digital realm, as some of my professional obligations require the use of computational devices. I intend to employ software tools that restrict my access to certain applications and websites on both my laptop and my phone. What strategies have you employed successfully in the past to overcome your cybernetic dependencies? I seem to be trapped in a cycle of substituting one form of online compulsion for another. Massively multiplayer online games, social media platforms, Reddit, niche forums.

Is this the normative state of affairs for most people in this age of information overload? I plan to resume my practice of yoga, in addition to my physical regimen of resistance training and cardiovascular exercise.

[TheBardo]

I find visiting a lot of sites is a reflexive thing, like you don’t even notice you’re doing it. To help with this you can block IPs on your router to stop you visiting without having to consciously login into the router and unblock it. Hope this helps.

[Trexller]

dear god humans have no capacity for self control anymore, these days it's always I gotta block this, i gotta ban that, I have to handcuff myself so I don't do whatever I don't wanna do

No, you just don't do it.

if/when i close this browser window, all of you cease to exist

PG, you don't need to get off the internet, you need to get out of your own head.

[TheBardo]

Ok mr 5k posts on the shittiest forum on the internet

[Trexller]

Ok mr 5k posts on the shittiest forum on the internet

like 450 a year? seems reasonable enough

i'm not crying like i got a problem with it

[aussenseiter]

Have your male guardian set up the block and not tell you what he did.

[TheBardo]

You Post in this shithole over once per day for the past 11 years, while making grumpy old man posts about “humans these days” who “lack self control” hahaaa

[Trexller]

i'm not crying like i got a problem with it

[unsunghero]

Thinking of and typing out (ideally complex) arguments on a forum or whatever medium is good for the brain

Assuming one doesn’t get too emotionally invested or is otherwise unable to moderate

[magnetaress]

Block the site in hosts file

[Trexller]

Thinking of and typing out (ideally complex) arguments on a forum or whatever medium is good for the brain

this guy gets it

[pink grapefruit]

I find visiting a lot of sites is a reflexive thing, like you don’t even notice you’re doing it. To help with this you can block IPs on your router to stop you visiting without having to consciously login into the router and unblock it. Hope this helps.

Block IPs on a router so you don’t have to login to router to unblock?

I’m not quite sure what that means, but also how do you login to a router? And how would you know what the right IPs are to block? I’ve never done that but it does sound like a good idea!

PG, you don't need to get off the internet, you need to get out of your own head.

Maybe. But how?

Have your male guardian set up the block and not tell you what he did.

My what lol 😂

Thinking of and typing out (ideally complex) arguments on a forum or whatever medium is good for the brain

Assuming one doesn’t get too emotionally invested or is otherwise unable to moderate

Hard disagree. Group polarization is a thing; you’re just pushing yourself harder into extremism the more you participate in this nonsense.

Block the site in hosts file

This also sounds like a good idea, but what is a hosts file?

[Skarne]

You could just stop posting tho

[magnetaress]

https://www.howtogeek.com/27350/beginner-geek-how-to-edit-your-hosts-file/amp/

Cya

Live long and prosper.

[unsunghero]

Hard disagree. Group polarization is a thing; you’re just pushing yourself harder into extremism the more you participate in this nonsense.


I meant that the brain is like a muscle, and by conceptualizing and framing an argument you are flexing that muscle. By reading sources for an argument you are improving your vocabulary

It is infinitely better for your brain than some mindless activity like watching tv

Polarization is is up to the individual

[pink grapefruit]

Polarization is is up to the individual

You may want to flex your brain muscle by reading some about social psychology bc this is 100% wrong 😅

[unsunghero]

You may want to flex your brain muscle by reading some about social psychology bc this is 100% wrong ��

I’ve always said I don’t have as much respect for people who aren’t able to come up with at least a few things they don’t like about their own political party

I have, on many occasions, criticized republican politicians on these boards. I have on many occasions sided with a leftist argument

So, as corny as it sounds, I would suggest to be the change you want to see in the world

The way to fight polarization is to have set of values and stick to those, no matter which side you have to piss off in doing so. Ideally this will cause you to drift towards a middle-ground approach. I think this is a much better thing to do than to run away from social media and forums because they foster polarization, but you do you

Also, I’m not pretending I’m perfect here. Sometimes I like to talk shit. I sometimes relish the times when someone insults me, because my conscience is most ok with me clapping back rather than being the initial instigator. Sometimes I like to be purely sarcastic and shitpost. It depends on my mindset at the time

[Trexller]

Maybe. But how?

starts with an analysis of things you like that aren't internet connected, or even electrified.

getting out of your head and into your body can be straight forward or metaphorical

like pounding that treadmill until all the stress is gone or meditating yourself into a peaceful trance

you work out, thats a great thing to take care of the body/mind but that's not a secret and you wouldn't have asked if that solved it

we are too young for the tech we have as a species, it's a weird contradiction how so many of us feel the need for our screens to be playing as we fall asleep, but also cannot fall asleep because the screens are playing. we aren't wired for it. The internet isn't the cause of that feeling like "I gotta get offline" its that our brains haven't evolved to deal with the new neural pathways or whatever that nature didn't give us at birth, we are just dazzled by the bright lights and moving pictures not so different than a deer in the headlights

so while leaving all your devices at home and going on a hike to commune with nature is certainly effective, we don't necessarily have to work ourselves into that state.

i dunno maybe think of the internet like a swiftly moving river, its beautiful to watch and it feels great when you get in and swim around but if you don't hold on it's gonna sweep you away, and all you really need to do is step out of the water and have a seat on the bank, where we can still enjoy the river

we're just the first humans in history to deal with such an immersive level of communications, and the way we deal with it is going to set the tone for all of our descendants.

[Topgunben]

We should have the government pass a law that regulates how much internet we intake. Then you will be happy.

[Trexller]

We should have the government pass a law that regulates how much internet we intake. Then you will be happy.

I'd rather let the ones who can't cope off themselves before they procreate

this will be much better for the species in the long run

sorry for those of you who lack the constitution to understand this concept, you shouldn't be mad at me, you should be mad at Darwin for teaching me.

[goblinmob]

I think it's aight

[Topgunben]

I'd rather let the ones who can't cope off themselves before they procreate

this will be much better for the species in the long run

sorry for those of you who lack the constitution to understand this concept, you shouldn't be mad at me, you should be mad at Darwin for teaching me.

No you are wrong. The government can adequately take care of us and healthily limit how much and what we intake from the internet. They have a proven track record over the last 50 years of doing what’s best for the American people.

[Trexller]

I think it's aight

yeah its a recurring idea more and more these days that the majority of all the issues we have are exacerbated by the fact that we don't have to chase a deer for 10 miles in order to eat dinner, and we don't have to fight off mountain lions to keep the meal we caught.

back in those days we didn't give a fuck about politics or race or sexual orientation, we didn't have the spare energy to spend giving a fuck about those things.

so few of us understand that we're really only 200 years out of the wilderness, only 200 years domesticated out of 300,000 years of existing as homo sapien.

stop expecting so god damn much from yourself and everyone else

IMO if you aren't starving, bleeding or burning, you're actually doing just fine.

[Ekco]

We should have the government pass a law that regulates how much internet we intake. Then you will be happy.

it literally should be like alcohol or smoking, especially social media. if we make it another 50 years the people then will obviously call us retarded for letting babies play with ipads all day and tweens/teens having smart phones

completely unregulated internet is going away, the tik tok ban bill that will prolly die in senate anyway literally makes using a VPN illegal if the government says so. SOFA PIPA all those bills, one will eventually pass and everything is gonna be shit and pay walled to fuck and back.

but i bet depression noticeably goes down it's gonna take deepfakes causing a freakout before the clampdown happens though i bet.

[aussenseiter]

https://www.howtogeek.com/27350/beginner-geek-how-to-edit-your-hosts-file/amp/

Cya

Live long and prosper.

This never stopped me, but I'm good at computer.

I think it's the best option here.

[Patriam1066]

Just read books

The internet, video games, etc

All are populated by low IQ simpletons that are miserable and will try to make you miserable as well. Get lost in a book instead

I’m currently reading the bibliography of Adrian Goldsworthy. Just finished Caesar and now I’m on augustus

[Patriam1066]

it literally should be like alcohol or smoking, especially social media. if we make it another 50 years the people then will obviously call us retarded for letting babies play with ipads all day and tweens/teens having smart phones

completely unregulated internet is going away, the tik tok ban bill that will prolly die in senate anyway literally makes using a VPN illegal if the government says so. SOFA PIPA all those bills, one will eventually pass and everything is gonna be shit and pay walled to fuck and back.

but i bet depression noticeably goes down it's gonna take deepfakes causing a freakout before the clampdown happens though i bet.

We can’t even stop people smoking cigarettes and that’s got to be the worst habit out there with zero benefit

Good luck shutting off the internet. Too many idiots make money doing nothing on it

[aussenseiter]

My what lol 😂

Walī (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wali_(Islamic_legal_guardian))

[Jobaber]

after we bag/van up all the democrats we'll clean up the internet.

[Ekco]

Good luck shutting off the internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

a man can dream.

[Jobaber]

The internet is basically dead.

Facebook is its own internet, so is discord, and instagram.

Tiktok. Reddit makes up 30% of the traffic online.

The internet is dead, and gone.

This website is one of the last outposts, in a vast wasteland of vapid whores that sell feet pics on a secret internet you cant access unless you buy an account.

[Topgunben]

after we bag/van up all the democrats we'll clean up the internet.

I do think the country would be more healthy if states had more power to govern themselves without Federal interference. I think that would allow for us to go back to the United “states” vs some giant blob of Americans we are today. I think it’s best if we retain our differences.

[Trexller]

Nah guys Pandora's Tech Box is blown wide open, it couldn't even be reassembled even if we could put the tech back in.

We're gonna have to learn to live with it, and if human history is any indication then only a few of us are gonna survive it

a "carrington event" type flare wouldn't even destroy all tech as the vast majority of military tech like weapons and communications and corporate tech like data centers and a plethora of other devices are already electromagnetic radiation shielded from the fears over nuclear bombs, or they are paranoid about things like solar flares, or it was just built that way.

Gamma ray burst might do the job tho, could pray for that

[Ekco]

Nah guys Pandora's Tech Box is blown wide open, it couldn't even be reassembled even if we could put the tech back in.

We're gonna have to learn to live with it, and if human history is any indication then only a few of us are gonna survive it

a "carrington event" type flare wouldn't even destroy all tech as the vast majority of military tech like weapons and communications and corporate tech like data centers and a plethora of other devices are already electromagnetic radiation shielded from the fears over nuclear bombs, or they are paranoid about things like solar flares, or it was just built that way.

Gamma ray burst might do the job tho, could pray for that

society feels fragile enough right now that a solar flare might just cause enough chaos where they couldn't get shit back on the rails. or having to deal with actual reality for some amount of time might snap enough people out of this zombie state to get us back on a path that isn't as fucked.

i feel like a nonconsensual camping trip affectively would do a lot of good for people right now. minus all the people who would die without power at hospitals n stuff when the generators run out..etc..etc

[magnetaress]

Still thots and prayers for 2029. It's probably idolatry tho.

[Trexller]

society feels fragile enough right now that a solar flare might just cause enough chaos where they couldn't get shit back on the rails. or having to deal with actual reality for some amount of time might snap enough people out of this zombie state to get us back on a path that isn't as fucked.

i feel like a nonconsensual camping trip affectively would do a lot of good for people right now. minus all the people who would die without power at hospitals n stuff when the generators run out..etc..etc

yeah you're right even if a solar flare did hit, everything that isn't EM hardened would be toast

and you're right that it would immediately shove 99% of humans back into the stone age. Food would be the real problem, because there are so many structures built already that shelter isn't gonna be a problem.

so it's gonna be mad max killing each other over the last can of soup for awhile, but after that once society becomes agrarian again things will be ok. of course there will be alot of tribal fighting with clubs and sharp pieces of metal, but frankly that's the world we evolved to live in, not this social media abhorrence we see today.

and everyone will appreciate life alot more, the morning sun and dewy breeze feels like heaven when last night you had to slash a man to death for no other reason then he was going to slash you to death.

I urge everyone to remember in their genetic memory what that life was like, and how fragile this veil of civilization really is.

[aussenseiter]

yeah you're right even if a solar flare did hit, everything that isn't EM hardened would be toast

and you're right that it would immediately shove 99% of humans back into the stone age. Food would be the real problem, because there are so many structures built already that shelter isn't gonna be a problem.

so it's gonna be mad max killing each other over the last can of soup for awhile, but after that once society becomes agrarian again things will be ok. of course there will be alot of tribal fighting with clubs and sharp pieces of metal, but frankly that's the world we evolved to live in, not this social media abhorrence we see today.

and everyone will appreciate life alot more, the morning sun and dewy breeze feels like heaven when last night you had to slash a man to death for no other reason then he was going to slash you to death.

I urge everyone to remember in their genetic memory what that life was like, and how fragile this veil of civilization really is.

Wouldn't it only hit one side or portion of the Earth at once?

Vis Major ftw! ✝️

[Trexller]

Wouldn't it only hit one side or portion of the Earth at once?

Vis Major ftw! ✝️

smaller flares just cause crazy auroras for a few minutes or hours

bigger solar flares like the ones that would roast our tech last for hours or days even. think of a desktop globe spinning and you shine a flashlight at it for 10 or 60 seconds, its gonna rotate in the beam of light like a rotisserie chicken.

carrington event is estimated to be in between there, as ppl didn't get roasted so it was like a small-medium flare, these things happen all the time we're just fortunate that it occurs in 3 dimensions which makes the likelihood rare, imagine tryin to hit a dart board while you are inside a rotating sphere that is rolling and pitching

gamma ray bursts same thing, but orders of magnitude worse, would turn earth into mars in less than a day

and now we're into apocalypse porn

[Ekco]

yeah you're right even if a solar flare did hit, everything that isn't EM hardened would be toast

and you're right that it would immediately shove 99% of humans back into the stone age. Food would be the real problem, because there are so many structures built already that shelter isn't gonna be a problem.

so it's gonna be mad max killing each other over the last can of soup for awhile, but after that once society becomes agrarian again things will be ok. of course there will be alot of tribal fighting with clubs and sharp pieces of metal, but frankly that's the world we evolved to live in, not this social media abhorrence we see today.

and everyone will appreciate life alot more, the morning sun and dewy breeze feels like heaven when last night you had to slash a man to death for no other reason then he was going to slash you to death.

I urge everyone to remember in their genetic memory what that life was like, and how fragile this veil of civilization really is.

I've always been a huge doomer about this shit, but someone who had been in the middle of a disaster i forget what it was Katrina or someshit said he was surprised how not bad it was, like neighborhoods instantly turn into quasi tribes just due to proxity of each other and each other's shit they care about property,family..etc and you easily fall back into that "lets worry about the outsiders not each other" mindset. but people need to be ready to handle their own shit for like 2 weeks in a FEMA is coming eventually kinda mild situation. but longer than that you start running into all sorts of problems

[aussenseiter]

smaller flares just cause crazy auroras for a few minutes or hours

bigger solar flares like the ones that would roast our tech last for hours or days even. think of a desktop globe spinning and you shine a flashlight at it for 10 or 60 seconds, its gonna rotate in the beam of light like a rotisserie chicken.

carrington event is estimated to be in between there, as ppl didn't get roasted so it was like a small-medium flare, these things happen all the time we're just fortunate that it occurs in 3 dimensions which makes the likelihood rare, imagine tryin to hit a dart board while you are inside a rotating sphere that is rolling and pitching

gamma ray bursts same thing, but orders of magnitude worse, would turn earth into mars in less than a day

and now we're into apocalypse porn

What about the seasons? Tilt.

[magnetaress]

We've had some cosmic radiation events that killed off large land mamals b4.

It's possible we could just lose our birth rate and watch our current population turn geriatric and essentially collapse overnight. The very few left would probably not keep a modern tech level. May mutate. We could get real elves vs trolls vs gnomes with a backdrop of dead and overgrown cities. Maybe a few hardened military sites would keep a stockpile of weapons and drugs and a few planes tanks and hellies to reboot our crazy mythological worship of dragons and give us a few stories about the men in metal beasts to tell our great grand children.

[Trexller]

I've always been a huge doomer about this shit, but someone who had been in the middle of a disaster i forget what it was Katrina or someshit said he was surprised how not bad it was, like neighborhoods instantly turn into quasi tribes just due to proxity of each other and each other's shit they care about property,family..etc and you easily fall back into that "lets worry about the outsiders not each other" mindset. but people need to be ready to handle their own shit for like 2 weeks in a FEMA is coming eventually kinda mild situation. but longer than that you start running into all sorts of problems

yeah 300,000 years of survival isn't a joke at all, i believe we can handle the adversity that nature throws our way

and i'll go a step farther and say that we require it, this modern "sterilized" society doesn't sit well with us because we don't have anything to fight for. In modern society you used to fight for God and Country, neither of those exist anymore so nobody has a sense of identity and they all fell into tribal groups based upon words that make them feel good or not.

It's all fake as fuck, because without the tech that enabled all these people to find each other, their tribes don't exist.

No Google, No Apple, No Samsung, and it's the year 1900 again.

[pink grapefruit]

Walī (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wali_(Islamic_legal_guardian))

and this was funny to you?

i was going to send you a fun easter song but now i'm not sure i will.

[Ekco]

yeah 300,000 years of survival isn't a joke at all, i believe we can handle the adversity that nature throws our way

and i'll go a step farther and say that we require it, this modern "sterilized" society doesn't sit well with us because we don't have anything to fight for. In modern society you used to fight for God and Country, neither of those exist anymore so nobody has a sense of identity and they all fell into tribal groups based upon words that make them feel good or not.

It's all fake as fuck, because without the tech that enabled all these people to find each other, their tribes don't exist.

No Google, No Apple, No Samsung, and it's the year 1900 again.

i'd 100% rather deal with a Carrington event sequel than a worse Tunguska one, i think about that shit every time i see magnetaress's sig rofl.

F7PX51IeMbU

[Jobaber]

Everything is funny.

[Trexller]

and this was funny to you?

i was going to send you a fun easter song but now i'm not sure i will.

you should send it anyway

95% of what we glean via text messages is decided in our own minds, we don't communicate like this IRL

as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, text meaning exists in the mind of the interpreter

[Trexller]

i'd 100% rather deal with a Carrington event sequel than a worse Tunguska one, i think about that shit every time i see magnetaress's sig rofl.

yeah tunguska is frickin weird. even weirder that there is basicially zero explanation about what happened, when the astro-nerds talk about a comet exploding i get a real sense of "ok boomer" theres like no geologic evidence of any such thing other than millions of trees blown to the ground in the same direction

it's probable, but i would rather believe that it was an errant shot in an interstellar war

i too very much enjoy the doomsday stuff, the doomier the better

[pink grapefruit]

you should send it anyway

95% of what we glean via text messages is decided in our own minds, we don't communicate like this IRL

as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, text meaning exists in the mind of the interpreter

i guess it's a lent song so nvm. when is lent??

t0blCfSfihg

[Jobaber]

hey making fun of the catholic church is not funny :(

(is that the way we want the world to be again? Because that's what its like with all the woke shit)

[Trexller]

hey making fun of the catholic church is not funny :(

(is that the way we want the world to be again? Because that's what its like with all the woke shit)

I feel like we all need a common enemy to unite us

liberals and conservatives alike have all had it with the catholic church so fuck those pedos let them burn in their queer little ornate city-state

catholics could be that enemy, but we really need to make damn sure that we get to their archives before they can torch it. It would answer alot of questions about human history. Library of Alexandria isn't lost to fire, it was stolen by pedos in funny hats.

[pink grapefruit]

I feel like we all need a common enemy to unite us

liberals and conservatives alike have all had it with the catholic church so fuck those pedos let them burn in their queer little ornate city-state

catholics could be that enemy, but we really need to make damn sure that we get to their archives before they can torch it. It would answer alot of questions about human history. Library of Alexandria isn't lost to fire, it was stolen by pedos in funny hats.

the common enemy was covid and look what y'all did with that 🤣

[Trexller]

the common enemy was covid and look what y'all did with that ��

nah not at all, most people saw it for what it really was by the 3rd or 4th month.

the world saw a highly communicable disease spread super fast, then panic'd and realized that a .001 death rate isn't really a big deal. At this point it became hyper-politicized because if you're a government and you make a decision you have to stand behind that decision otherwise you look weak if you backpeddle, look at all the havoc Fauci caused by saying "Don't mask up, ok yeah mask up"

then everyone fell into ranks along political lines. Yeah of course alot of people tried to use a "minor crisis" to manufacture a major crisis but once that never hit, everyone was like, "Yeah ok whatever mr. govt", while 85% of broadcast media is owned by 4 mega-corps who share similiar agendas, of course they would be the loudest voice.

6 months go by and the entire nation is pissed as fuck because they can't twerk in clubs or gorge on buffets and it all it took was a little stoke of the flames to get hundreds of thousands of pissed off people to take to the streets.

This was a dynamic, fast paced situation with actors from every angle scrambling to gain control, make money, or simply just not lose money. no one group or political affiliation is exempt from blame.

and that's the year 2020 in a nutshell.

[Jobaber]

I feel like we all need a common enemy to unite us

liberals and conservatives alike have all had it with the catholic church so fuck those pedos let them burn in their queer little ornate city-state

catholics could be that enemy, but we really need to make damn sure that we get to their archives before they can torch it. It would answer alot of questions about human history. Library of Alexandria isn't lost to fire, it was stolen by pedos in funny hats.

hopefully they become that enemy :o

I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained.
–Revelation 6:9

losing the civil war 2 would do it :o:o:o

bring on the antichrist to clean up the mess! :)

[Trexller]

hopefully they become that enemy :o

losing the civil war 2 would do it :o:o:o

bring on the antichrist to clean up the mess! :)

well at least we wouldn't have our brains scrambled by Gigabit bandwidth internet connections.

I have like 50 TB of movies/TV shows that I will never have time to watch, on top of like 60 TB of stuff that I have watched over the years, but I've never been able to download media so damn fast. I get like 70 MB/s download speeds and im like fuck thats nuts, so i call verizon to downgrade because why the fuck should I really pay for that, and they offer to just reduce my plan by $30/month and I'm like well okay sure thanks! then I go order another 20TB drive from amazon to add to the JBOD array.

they want me to have this bandwidth more then they want me to pay for it, so that should be a clear indication of their intention.

They NEED us glued to our screens in perpetuity.

[aussenseiter]

and this was funny to you?

i was going to send you a fun easter song but now i'm not sure i will.

I thought it would be good to close the loop on your indifferentism since you are leaving.

i guess it's a lent song so nvm. when is lent??

t0blCfSfihg

Do you have the lyrics? I have trouble discerning what's being said without being allowed to read it. 🥺

[pink grapefruit]

I thought it would be good to close the loop on your indifferentism since you are leaving.



Do you have the lyrics? I have trouble discerning what's being said without being allowed to read it. 🥺

i don't understand what you mean. indifferentism?

no i don't have the lyrics but she mentions lent so merry lent. the other song is about a witch who falls in love with a normal guy lol. thought you would appreciate

[aussenseiter]

i don't understand what you mean. indifferentism?

no i don't have the lyrics but she mentions lent so merry lent. the other song is about a witch who falls in love with a normal guy lol. thought you would appreciate

It is a kind thing. Thank you.

[Jobaber]

I feel like we all need a common enemy to unite us

nPAYbbGLYlE

[pink grapefruit]

It is a kind thing. Thank you.

now i'm feeling like i offended you, or something. it's not a good feeling.

[aussenseiter]

now i'm feeling like i offended you, or something. it's not a good feeling.

You haven't offended me, I just have a cold and it's time to sleep it off. :p

[pink grapefruit]

You haven't offended me, I just have a cold and it's time to sleep it off. :p

get well <3

[Patriam1066]

You haven't offended me, I just have a cold and it's time to sleep it off. :p

That’s your body telling you to stop being a redneck and give up cigs

[pink grapefruit]

IÂ’ve always said I donÂ’t have as much respect for people who arenÂ’t able to come up with at least a few things they donÂ’t like about their own political party

I have, on many occasions, criticized republican politicians on these boards. I have on many occasions sided with a leftist argument

So, as corny as it sounds, I would suggest to be the change you want to see in the world

The way to fight polarization is to have set of values and stick to those, no matter which side you have to piss off in doing so. Ideally this will cause you to drift towards a middle-ground approach. I think this is a much better thing to do than to run away from social media and forums because they foster polarization, but you do you

Also, IÂ’m not pretending IÂ’m perfect here. Sometimes I like to talk shit. I sometimes relish the times when someone insults me, because my conscience is most ok with me clapping back rather than being the initial instigator. Sometimes I like to be purely sarcastic and shitpost. It depends on my mindset at the time

This was the most interesting post in the thread for me, and IÂ’ll explain why without even using chatgpt :P

First, one of the supposed benefits of public discourse is to come to a general consensus about various issues. Which is kind of the basis of political parties- that they have collectively determined how to feel about the issues of today. And while it’s probably true that there are great ideas from most political parties, it’s a logical fallacy to assume a person has a “better” perspective on the issues if they sometimes go against the general consensus of their political party. This is called the “appeal to novelty” logical fallacy, and it’s something I always remember due to Jordan Peterson using this fallacy in his interview with some self-identified feminist. He suggested that she had worse ideas because she agreed with every other feminist about everything, which she then defensively denied.

Second:

The way to fight polarization is to have set of values and stick to those, no matter which side you have to piss off in doing so.

YouÂ’re maybe more enlightened than most here, because instead of deluding yourself into believing youÂ’re not susceptible to confirmation bias you willfully embrace it. Confirmation bias is of course the tendency for people to seek out information that confirms their previously-held beliefs, and by firmly deciding that your beliefs will not be swayed by new information you make it clear that your goal is confirmation bias. Which is so wild to me lmao

Now, group polarization. This is the concept within social psychology that explains how when a group of like-minded people come together, they actually come to hold more extreme beliefs as they discuss their beliefs with one another. It has been studied extensively, and itÂ’s a good thing to try to be aware of as youÂ’re interacting with like-minded individuals. It absolutely is something that happens in these online forums.

And the fourth concept I want to touch on here is the concept of attitude polarization, which is a shift in attitude to more extreme beliefs due to confirmation bias. It has been shown that being subjected to opinions that go against our previously-held beliefs can sometimes just further entrench us in our opposition to these differing ideas, and attitude polarization can be a result of this. One mitigating factor can be the *quality* of discourse taking place; meaning something like academic standards being applied to the practice. Of course academics are just as susceptible to these social-psychological quirks of humanity, so there is no 100% sure way to avoid them.

This is part of why participating in this sort of public discourse can be harmful, or at least push a person into holding extreme views. You may feel it is improving your vocabulary and keeping your mind active, and maybe it is. But thatÂ’s not all itÂ’s doing.

A couple years ago I had a lot of fun talking fitness with you, but more recently IÂ’ve found that more than anything you are hateful. My own biases are ofc at play here, but I do think youÂ’ve radicalized yourself to some extent by talking politics so much in these online spaces. As so many of us have, maybe myself included.

Thanks for making such a perfect post for me to consider <3

[goblinmob]

Just like all the others

[Ooloo]

Ok mr 5k posts on the shittiest forum on the internet

More like best. This place is basically just what somethingawful used to be, before it was devoured from within by hysterical shrieking babies and all the interesting and funny people got banned

[TheBardo]

More like best. This place is basically just what somethingawful used to be, before it was devoured from within by hysterical shrieking babies and all the interesting and funny people got banned

so what you're saying is that you're a bitter old man, who hasn't developed emotionally since you were 13 years old.

[Toxigen]

cu real soon

[goblinmob]

YESSS! YYEEESSSS!
Y Y Y Y E E E E E E E EEEEEESSSSSSSS!

[magnetaress]

i'd 100% rather deal with a Carrington event sequel than a worse Tunguska one, i think about that shit every time i see magnetaress's sig rofl.

F7PX51IeMbU

really cool video!!
thx ) :cool:

[unsunghero]

This was the most interesting post in the thread for me, and IÂ’ll explain why without even using chatgpt :P

First, one of the supposed benefits of public discourse is to come to a general consensus about various issues. Which is kind of the basis of political parties- that they have collectively determined how to feel about the issues of today. And while it’s probably true that there are great ideas from most political parties, it’s a logical fallacy to assume a person has a “better” perspective on the issues if they sometimes go against the general consensus of their political party. This is called the “appeal to novelty” logical fallacy, and it’s something I always remember due to Jordan Peterson using this fallacy in his interview with some self-identified feminist. He suggested that she had worse ideas because she agreed with every other feminist about everything, which she then defensively denied.

Second:



YouÂ’re maybe more enlightened than most here, because instead of deluding yourself into believing youÂ’re not susceptible to confirmation bias you willfully embrace it. Confirmation bias is of course the tendency for people to seek out information that confirms their previously-held beliefs, and by firmly deciding that your beliefs will not be swayed by new information you make it clear that your goal is confirmation bias. Which is so wild to me lmao

Now, group polarization. This is the concept within social psychology that explains how when a group of like-minded people come together, they actually come to hold more extreme beliefs as they discuss their beliefs with one another. It has been studied extensively, and itÂ’s a good thing to try to be aware of as youÂ’re interacting with like-minded individuals. It absolutely is something that happens in these online forums.

And the fourth concept I want to touch on here is the concept of attitude polarization, which is a shift in attitude to more extreme beliefs due to confirmation bias. It has been shown that being subjected to opinions that go against our previously-held beliefs can sometimes just further entrench us in our opposition to these differing ideas, and attitude polarization can be a result of this. One mitigating factor can be the *quality* of discourse taking place; meaning something like academic standards being applied to the practice. Of course academics are just as susceptible to these social-psychological quirks of humanity, so there is no 100% sure way to avoid them.

This is part of why participating in this sort of public discourse can be harmful, or at least push a person into holding extreme views. You may feel it is improving your vocabulary and keeping your mind active, and maybe it is. But thatÂ’s not all itÂ’s doing.

A couple years ago I had a lot of fun talking fitness with you, but more recently IÂ’ve found that more than anything you are hateful. My own biases are ofc at play here, but I do think youÂ’ve radicalized yourself to some extent by talking politics so much in these online spaces. As so many of us have, maybe myself included.

Thanks for making such a perfect post for me to consider <3

I think the chance of someone being manipulated (based on their own gullibility) or bullied into agreeing with everything their political party does, especially considering the tactics used in this political climate, are far greater than it just being a coincidence that they happen to agree with everything

But I can’t jump into anyone’s heads. Agree to disagree

[unsunghero]

Agree to disagree on the being hateful, hateful to me has been so often twisted to mean something someone hates hearing. And that’s going to always happen online

If anything conceptualizing and expressing my beliefs have given me a better sense of self. Sorry it’s not someone you like. I wasn’t trying to be

[goblinmob]

If you keep coming back the you don't deserve better. If you don't like this place, be an influence of what you want to contribute or leave. It's a 1-step program. Works for everything. It'll only suck until it doesn't. Anyone who wants to stand up in the middle of this shit hole and say 'im better than this' looks like a self-indulgent retart

[goblinmob]

It's funny to read all these nice elaborately worded posts from some as if nobody has the capacity to take into account anything we've ever seen or heard until now and just take the post at face value, no questions asked. To me it reads "...list of opinions about me I want you to pick from. Option #163:..."
Who would we like to believe we're fooling? Hopefully NOT ourselves, it's the internet. Probably the ONLY place we're brave enough to show our true colors. Don't pass up that chance. And don't expect me not to for your sake.

[goblinmob]

If you're struggling with addiction of any sort that's a bummer and good luck for sure. I know the feeling and it can be a burden for sure! But it's hard to get down on myself for crawling back just to read drama and make fun of people, laugh at memes, or accidentally have a serious conversation with someone cuz it's a community not a DLC cash shop so it's hard to follow along there. I got siblings, lots.. we hated each other a lot but we love each other a lot ! You can do both ya know.

IDK if it helps but the way i I've always looked at bitch ass decisions I don't wanna deal with is like I referenced before. It's a 1-step program. Take it or leave it. Do it or don't. Usually simple, never easy but that's the way of things. Can't get mad about the weather. And I'll always wish someone the best of luck there. Run your race, PG! I'm always rooting for anyone who tries. But don't stand up on a ledge and be like "I'm gonna do it!" and then linger only to say "see, that's why I'm gonna do it! I'm gonna!"
So I'm calling you out, if you haven't left then make better use of your time here until you do. Don't be mad if nobody cares either. You're the only one who can you're the only one who has to.
I'm a lurker I know but damn this is annoying to watch

[goblinmob]

And Chortles, put a little more effort into your trolling! EDs gone and you're all I got. Don't be fuckin lazy, otherwise you're just like, around -kinda like me.. you don't wanna be like me right?! PG you're probably a good friend for magnetareas to have around too.

[goblinmob]

What the fuck is wrong with me this morning. Sorry, everyone.

[goblinmob]

"Is it ok though if I take my respirator of for like just a little bit to scratch my nose if it's itching?"

[unsunghero]

Wanted to mention that anything I didn’t specifically address in PG’s post is something I agree with. It was pretty long so I only skimmed but the most of the logic seems sound

Even the reality that one should never assume that someone who 100% agrees with their political party hasn’t been manipulated, and that this could truly occur, seems sound, probably to most people, but not to me

I personally think the chance is approaching zero that someone happens to have grown up with a worldview that perfectly aligns with every tactic, every belief, and every message of their political party. I think it is a near certainty that they were manipulated, at least in some small part, into that. Possibly manipulated somewhat by the opposing party’s vitriol, but mostly by their own party’s bullying, cancel culture, and more subtle manipulation tactics

And yes that is an unfalsifiable statement by me, because it’s not like someone who’s being manipulated recognizes they are. Anyone who has the gall to say “I could never be manipulated, all my beliefs will always be completely my own” is naive to the point they are probably easier to manipulate than most. It’s almost as bad as trying to claim “what I know is more than what I don’t know”

Anyone can be manipulated. What varies is how easily

[Ooloo]

There seem to be three categories of people:

-People who never change their mind about anything for their entire life

-People who suddenly one day radically switch positions on every single thing they've ever previously believed (very often happens with 18 year olds who were raised strictly religious; the fuck you dad syndrome)

-People who change their minds about some things but not others, over time

I think in general you wanna aim to be in the 3rd group.

[magnetaress]

happy easter everyone, you may not get to hear that irl so here i'm telling u so at least 1 online interaction today didnt suck

[unsunghero]

happy easter everyone, you may not get to hear that irl so here i'm telling u so at least 1 online interaction today didnt suck

U2

I’ll be at (very crowded) church today so I’ll hear it there ;)

[Tunabros]

wow grapefruit is back!!

[Toxigen]

we never saw that coming

[magnetaress]

Heads up for PG. U posted a lot again in the I don’t care political thread.

Go meditation 🧘 by a window or something.

[pink grapefruit]

Heads up for PG. U posted a lot again in the I don’t care political thread.

Go meditation 🧘 by a window or something.

good lookin' out, mag <3

it's that aussenseiter. he's smart enough to know how to push my buttons and make his points vague and mysterious, which somehow makes them intriguing. like you gotta do a lot of back and forth before he actually says what he's saying. it's annoying but you want to keep doing it.

i did the cold turkey blocker on macos, but i boot into windows to play eq. is there a cold turkey for windows? i clicked your article and read a bit of it and it sounds way too complicated, especially bc i want to continue using the wiki.

hope you're as well as can be! i'm playing a new dark elf necro on red. we altoholics :(

ily ho keep it up

[Toxigen]

yikes

[magnetaress]

I'm doing good. Got several alts planned already!

Yep Auss is tooo clever. Auss is lonely tho so it is kind to stimulate the Aussmind. Don't want to out them.

[aussenseiter]

I'm doing good. Got several alts planned already!

Yep Auss is tooo clever. Auss is lonely tho so it is kind to stimulate the Aussmind. Don't want to out them.

Ladies do not kiss and tell. 😘

[aussenseiter]

i clicked your article and read a bit of it and it sounds way too complicated, especially bc i want to continue using the wiki.

It should look like this when you lose control of your resolve:

https://i.imgur.com/WW9M0ij.png

To regain control of yourself edit out the # from the start of the ending line and save.

Always right click notepad and run as administrator when trying to change the file. Otherwise it won't allow you to save.

Wiki should still work in this setup.

[magnetaress]

without the word wrapping. so be careful about that word host and server should still be commented out with # and you would not have a

# before 127.0.0.1 www.project1999.com

127.0.0.1 www.project1999.com

will do it

[DeadSurvivor]

I go through the motions ... There are times where I am addicted to Social Media and Forums and post alot then I'll disappear for a few months. It's like a seasonal thing with me, LOL.

[magnetaress]

I just want one login for an EZ server where I can interract fully with an 100% accurate EQ database and make a billion little alts.

[magnetaress]

Emergency bunp

[magnetaress]

personal safety bump