What the entire world needs.

[magnetaress]

Global communism for the 90%

Let exceptional ppl test out of the system and set the bar so high only 10% can ascend.

People are stupid. And too undisciplined. There are very few exceptions. Freedom and Democracy failed.

[Duik]

Global communism for the 90%

Let exceptional ppl test out of the system and set the bar so high only 10% can ascend.

People are stupid. And too undisciplined. There are very few exceptions. Freedom and Democracy failed.

Lolocaust, its the 10% (2%?) that have fucked the version of democracy/freedom/capitalism we have now.
Do you think a coniving psychopath who has amassed 50 billion dollars is that much more exceptional than a generally honest person who lives day to day (ironically because of the admitedly clever manipulation of the systems in place) doing some exceptional things that dont generate obscene amounts of income?
Answer yes and I cannot help you.

[Ooloo]

Rich people are not automatically evil. Also, people who complain about rich people never specify how much money you are allowed to have before you magically become evil, but presumably it is an amount at least 1 dollar greater than what they currently have themselves. This is called envy. Please see: all the people criticizing elon musk for being "the richest man in the world", as if he doesn't deserve to be. How many profitable electric cars and reusable rockets have you invented?

Poor immigrants from all over the world are able to come to the united states and become extremely wealthy. It happens all the time. You really don't have a good excuse if you were *born* here in the first place.

[Duik]

Im talking billions, not hundreds of thousands or millions. Obscene amounts.
Not all poor people are stupid criminals either. Checkmate!
OP's point was that we should leave our fates to the very same types of people who have arguably fucked the current system by gaming it (albiet very cleverly) thats like believing a billionaire, by virtue of being a billionare is better at knowing whats good for me and mine. Like a god.

How many profitable electric cars and reusable rockets have you invented?

The same number as Elon has. Zero. He invents nothing. But that's another topic for another thread.

[Duik]

On a related note, how many points do you get at a basketball game for shooting and only injuring your targets?
I'm trying to learn sports.

[magnetaress]

The point is that there should be another method to earn blood G-d status. Culturally speaking. Other than just inheriting daddies cash and connections.

[Duik]

The point is that there should be another method to earn blood G-d status. Culturally speaking. Other than just inheriting daddies cash and connections.

Are you certain you'd want that though? Then you'd need to make sure the communist sytem didnt fail to keep me alive dang nabbit.

[magnetaress]

I want to be the blood g-d buttt no I don't like that butt that is what we have - we just aren't honest about it !

[magnetaress]

Good morning folks!

https://i.ibb.co/kH6H69r/20230617-074025.jpg (https://ibb.co/QbjbjCq)

I was thinking 20 years of boot camp starting at birth and 5 years of civil service- all mandatory. If you fail in anyway the punishment is sterilization and you're put into a battle arena for target practice/ entertainment.. armed of course with a proper scenario. Cannot make it easy for the actual trainees.

[Tnair]

I was thinking 20 years of boot camp starting at birth and 5 years of civil service- all mandatory. If you fail in anyway the punishment is sterilization and you're put into a battle arena for target practice/ entertainment.. armed of course with a proper scenario. Cannot make it easy for the actual trainees.

It's funny that you could say this isn't completely dissimilar to current US life; mandatory education 5-18, likely 2-4 years of taking on massive inescapable personal debt which helps prop up US credit overseas, if you fail at this then you are put in "affordable" housing if you're lucky and used as target practice for the ideologies controlling your economic options. Of course it takes effort to target and exploit you at that point because we need training for the "successful" economic and ideological soldiers.

[Lune]

Please see: all the people criticizing elon musk for being "the richest man in the world", as if he doesn't deserve to be. How many profitable electric cars and reusable rockets have you invented?

What about people that don't deserve to be? I was born rich, I never did anything to earn it, and I'll benefit from it the rest of my life. Not close Elon Musk rich but enough that my entire life was easy. He was born far richer and he had all the right ladders to get him into the rooms he needed to be in to leverage his talent for sniffing out nickels.

Very rich people wield immense power, and Elon Musk is a piece of shit, as are most very very rich people. That's why he doesn't 'deserve' it, because the net effect of someone being able to accumulate that much wealth and power is negative across society. In the presence of two parties that continually sell out the country to moneyed interests, beyond a certain point, the power that level of wealth brings is immoral. Why do you think both Republicans and Democrats have the same frustrating feeling of not having a say in anything? Our institutions are highly dysfunctional. They need to be fixed. In the meantime, once someone hits $1 billion, give them a plaque that says they win capitalism, and tax the fuck out of anything over that. That goes for both George Soros and Rupert Murdoch. Fuck them both it's too much power.

[unsunghero]

What about people that don't deserve to be? I was born rich, I never did anything to earn it, and I'll benefit from it the rest of my life. Not close Elon Musk rich but enough that my entire life was easy. He was born far richer and he had all the right ladders to get him into the rooms he needed to be in to leverage his talent for sniffing out nickels.

Very rich people wield immense power, and Elon Musk is a piece of shit, as are most very very rich people. That's why he doesn't 'deserve' it, because the net effect of someone being able to accumulate that much wealth and power is negative across society. In the presence of two parties that continually sell out the country to moneyed interests, beyond a certain point, the power that level of wealth brings is immoral. Why do you think both Republicans and Democrats have the same frustrating feeling of not having a say in anything? Our institutions are highly dysfunctional. They need to be fixed. In the meantime, once someone hits $1 billion, give them a plaque that says they win capitalism, and tax the fuck out of anything over that. That goes for both George Soros and Rupert Murdoch. Fuck them both it's too much power.

Agree on almost everything, especially the top much power. But speaking of immoral, I think stealing their money is just an immoral of a solution. Needs to be better ones

[magnetaress]

Naw the $14 an hr McDonald's employees and Private DeSantis Carls Jr Taco Bell get to bail this cuntree out once the boomer default on their Chinaloans used to prop up medicaid and Medicare to inflate prices in a fixed and regulated (not capitalism) market that gives the administrative executives free month long vacations (4 full weeks) to resorts full of Liliths victims.

G-d bless and g-d love you all 🙏

[BigChief]

Communism is what Commie Ron DuhMantits is doing in FLoriduh. He is trying to take over public businesses and have the government run them.

[Nibblewitz]

Another example of the pareto distribution.

Imagine wanting a command economy and its corresponding authoritarian government.

[Origen]

You don't need to want anything, that's what we already have

[magnetaress]

I want euthanasia and sterilization to be legal and funded by the state.

[aussenseiter]

I want euthanasia and sterilization to be legal and funded by the state.

https://i.imgur.com/508P3Hw.png

[magnetaress]

Right to die will be abused. It would not diminish the evil in the world.

It would bring peace to people and diminish the bloodshed and number of traumatic "incidents". People do really dumb shit when they are upset, helpless or in pain.

I don't expect to go to heaven tho.

Pray the lord take my soul to utterly destroy and obliterate.

[unsunghero]

Right to die will be abused. It would not diminish the evil in the world.

It would bring peace to people and diminish the bloodshed and number of traumatic "incidents". People do really dumb shit when they are upset, helpless or in pain.

I don't expect to go to heaven tho.

Pray the lord take my soul to utterly destroy and obliterate.

I mean euthanasia already exists, all someone has to do is look up the best methods and overpower the survival instinct. I guess a 3rd party would be for those who can’t?

I imagine taking a hot dose of fentanyl or putting one’s head in a helium balloon (or w/e the helium poisoning one is where you just fall asleep) are probably the go to’s. A gun is super messy and someone could F that up and survive

Note: I still don’t condone self-deleting tho, unless already terminal with shit quality of life

[magnetaress]

Yeah. You can go to jail for discussing methods be careful.

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/508P3Hw.png

Yea the interesting thing is that anyone has the right to refuse any medical or mental health treatment

No matter what your medical illness is, you can say no to any treatment, and it’s not considered being suicidal. Some states might be able to temporarily commit someone for refusing medical treatment if the treatment was incredibly non-invasive, like just taking a heart medication pill

But turning down something like chemo or dialysis? Nope, no one can do anything about that

Speaking of people’s right to fuck themselves up, you heard about the lady with Munchausen's who picked her own legs until they rotted and were amputated for social media attention? Man, someone should have been allowed to remove her social media access, that was so fucked up

I heard the pics were fucking brutal, and so I dug for them and looked them up. And HO-LY fuck, lady. Yea those pics were incredibly hard to see, I do not recommend

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ91IqTSht4

[magnetaress]

What's fucked up is if you searched for methods in the past there where some great resources that would save people a lot of botched attempts and pain.

Now the dystopian fucks have flooded the first thousand pages of results with articles claiming there's easy access pro suicide communities. And that it's some sort of problem lol.

You know what the problem is? If you dial 998 and get put in a behavioral facility (you won't go to a real hospital) you just get abused, misdiagnosed, denied palliative care, and lose all your money.

If I was healthy I would be doing my civic duty and installing and administrating a just and equitable government.

Don't worry unsunghero. Once they get RT offline they'll be coming for those vids too.

Obviously personal posts are harder to go after than full on public communities and organizations with a high profile.

I expect even threads like this spicy one will be illegal within the decade. Well see. It all depends on a lot of factors and something like this thread could slide by as long as the authorities are busy shutting down people like the Proud Boys. Or BLM. Or Antifa. They will be the next to fall. Depends on if MAGA falls or not. Antifa will eat itself.

They are all bad.

None are Christians nor of divine authority. Satan won. Ironic that the world Satan builds is pro suicide in function and anti suicide in word.

Just another means to take your freedom from you and Bill the taxpayers for your slow execution in a hall of abuse.

I can not wait till it's happening to everyone for the slightest wrong think.

[aussenseiter]

Yea the interesting thing is that anyone has the right to refuse any medical or mental health treatment

Tacoma woman with tuberculosis detained after refusing treatment (https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/tacoma/tacoma-woman-tuberculosis-detained/281-92a2af36-ca4e-409d-b352-2c4d43be0b8e)

[magnetaress]

The lady at home picking her legs. I can't watch the video.


Was she uploading to YouTube on a regular basis? Or was it like a private forum? Was it all at once or after the fact that the videos where uploaded? Did she have a previous diagnosis and disability and a caregiver? If so caregiver was neglegent not the states problem. And she was likely only endangering herself.

That is changing tho. Pretty soon Anorexia will be against the law.

Also VSED is extremely painful without pain management. https://deathwithdignity.org/resources/options-to-hasten-death/


Outright disinformation. Without pain management Dehydration is extremely painful when your organs begin to fail and your brain starts shrinking.

The fact that doctors will not proscribe pain management anymore and that only street drugs are available for poor people is proof our society and civilization is unsustainable and failing. Even without pain management suicides are skyrocketing.

To put it frankly forcing people to die without pain drugs is absolutely fucking barbaric and brutal. Dehydration without palliative care or pain management is a fucking hardcore way to die.

Satan is risen. He walks the world.

[unsunghero]

Tacoma woman with tuberculosis detained after refusing treatment (https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/tacoma/tacoma-woman-tuberculosis-detained/281-92a2af36-ca4e-409d-b352-2c4d43be0b8e)

Well yea it’s diff for super contagious stuff

[aussenseiter]

Let's keep KF shit to ourselves.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Another example of the pareto distribution.

Imagine wanting a command economy and its corresponding authoritarian government.

Pareto teaches us, the higher the fewer.

[magnetaress]

Well.

To be fair. Forcefeeding people is pretty barbaric too.

Perhaps G-d defines suicide differently than we do. Perhaps grief or pain resulting in euthanasia and mercy isn't murder or suicide in G-ds eyes.

Can a nation commit suicide? Or is it illegal for nations to destroy themselves under international law? I do believe there's a measure of illegality in corporations destroying themselves. Like fiduciary responsibility is a thing.

Has America already crossed the line? I feel like she has.

I mean sometimes we really do walk a really fine line on an individual level. This has me thinking 🤔

[Evia]

Yea the interesting thing is that anyone has the right to refuse any medical or mental health treatment

No matter what your medical illness is, you can say no to any treatment, and it’s not considered being suicidal. Some states might be able to temporarily commit someone for refusing medical treatment if the treatment was incredibly non-invasive, like just taking a heart medication pill.

But turning down something like chemo or dialysis? Nope, no one can do anything about that

Speaking of people’s right to fuck themselves up, you heard about the lady with Munchausen's who picked her own legs until they rotted and were amputated for social media attention? Man, someone should have been allowed to remove her social media access, that was so fucked up

I heard the pics were fucking brutal, and so I dug for them and looked them up. And HO-LY fuck, lady. Yea those pics were incredibly hard to see, I do not recommend

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ91IqTSht4


Idk I don't think it's someone else's place to intervene into someone else's life. No matter how virtuous there intentions might be. What you call medicine they might call poison. Just because we think we know best and want to do something we see as "non invasive " doesn't mean the other person feels the same way. I'd lose my mind if someone forced me to take heart medication against my will. Just kill me instead. Give me liberty or give me death.

[Origen]

I wish more conservatives actually had libertarian values, but most of them are just authoritarians with a low "disgust" threshold

[magnetaress]

Oh it was just pics.

Are u sure it was really self harm and KF and reddit didn't just didn't make shit up from the pics lol?

Drs can be really dumb fucks. Sometimes and didn't treat like flesh eating bacteria or pain and she posted seeking help and ppl just made shit up after that likely.

This is nothing at all like posting how-to's or videos of how-tos.

[pink grapefruit]

i'm willfully ignoring the content of this thread for obvious reasons, but i hope you're doing well magnetaress!!

[unsunghero]

Idk I don't think it's someone else's place to intervene into someone else's life. No matter how virtuous there intentions might be. What you call medicine they might call poison. Just because we think we know best and want to do something we see as "non invasive " doesn't mean the other person feels the same way. I'd lose my mind if someone forced me to take heart medication against my will. Just kill me instead. Give me liberty or give me death.

It’s not as simple as just that

In order for a psychiatrist to request a judge to take away someone’s rights, there has to be multiple qualifying situations or conditions. A person who is more naturopathic about their health or for whatever reason doesn’t want pharmaceuticals isn’t going to qualify

But if the person was already previously prescribed a heart medication that they were willing to take, then had multiple other symptoms of depression, was expressing despairing or hopeless thoughts, and suddenly stopped choosing to take their heart medication…that could be be accepted by a psychiatrist for temporarily hold+evaluation. It’s not considered a suicide attempt categorically, but it’s a lack of caring for basic survival needs due to a mental health reason with the possibility of death as result. Similar to if some is depressed to the point they stop eating, it is possible to step legally in to prevent them from starving themselves

[magnetaress]

i'm willfully ignoring the content of this thread for obvious reasons, but i hope you're doing well magnetaress!!

I'm not. Physically. I have support and am safe. I don't want to talk to them about this thread either. (My support and guardianship).

Let me be frank. My original post is an indulgence of my vengeful and wrathful self out of compassion for all those who suffer because we allow monsters and abusers to roam free while enabling and empowering them and disabling and punishing their victims.

I know a command economy would not solve the problem. I just sometimes feel like shared suffering would be quite a bit more just. Since there is so much suffering anyway, why not bring down a few more of the exploiters.. manipulators. Anyway. I know I would go to hell and innocents would suffer... they are suffering anyway though.

So while what I am saying may not be effective. It is the truth. And while I am being selfish. I'm sharing it. I am also trying to be kind.

Yes it does hurt. If only those who are in power knew and understood. That would be a truly terrifying time. For I don't feel like they have the lifetime of experience needed to take effective action either. Anyway.

I'm hurting and tired. And crying. And I'm a mirror. And this is what it looks like.

I forgive you. And particularly you Pink Grapefruit. None of this is your fault. Why are you even here? This hell isn't meant for you.

I simply seek oblivion. Until then it's just echoes and haunts. This forum is a graveyard of sins. Full of shadows and grief. Such as the world it reflects.

[magnetaress]

Look.

They already be stealing money and lands from poor people in literal poverty.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/florida-woman-leaves-2-5m-mansion-and-inheritance-to-7-cats/amp/

Do you know how little 7 million dollars is? Lol. It's like nothing. It can't even cover a years medical expenses on its own let alone protect someone from stealing cat moms house! :grimace:

[aussenseiter]

Look.

They already be stealing money and lands from poor people in literal poverty.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/florida-woman-leaves-2-5m-mansion-and-inheritance-to-7-cats/amp/

Do you know how little 7 million dollars is? Lol. It's like nothing. It can't even cover a years medical expenses on its own let alone protect someone from stealing cat moms house! :grimace:

A cat isn't a person. She should have left her assets to a corporation.

[magnetaress]

A cat isn't a person. She should have left her assets to a corporation.

Oh. Yes. I totally agree lol. I just wanted to see if you could spot the error!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I wish more conservatives actually had libertarian values, but most of them are just authoritarians with a low "disgust" threshold

"You touch it with a needle" -- Pompei Magnus, Rome, HBO S01;Ep3 "An Owl in a Thornbush"

I had the distinct pleasure of being raised in the Long Island NY area in the pre-Aids era. You cannot trust the old videos. If you just watch the videos, you would think everyone dug the cocaine, the non-stop partying, the pure desire to be a stoned idiot.

I mean, it's a huge area, but I can tell you, a general "disgust" with the NYC of the late 70's and 80's cut across class and racial lines.

However, and this is my point, we all had lives to live. So the fact that a bunch of people were being kinda gross was just a daily thing. If you got hung up, God help your sanity. God help the entire area. It survives b/c people were forced to maintain a healthy immune system to disgusting things.

And a healthy immune system just dissolves the shit it does not want or like. An allergic reaction -- ie, modern conservatives -- is a sign of a whacked out immune system, not a good one.

So that gets my bingo award clearly. I brought out a Rome quote, that's special for me.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I'm not. Physically. I have support and am safe. I don't want to talk to them about this thread either. (My support and guardianship).

Let me be frank. My original post is an indulgence of my vengeful and wrathful self out of compassion for all those who suffer because we allow monsters and abusers to roam free while enabling and empowering them and disabling and punishing their victims.

I know a command economy would not solve the problem. I just sometimes feel like shared suffering would be quite a bit more just. Since there is so much suffering anyway, why not bring down a few more of the exploiters.. manipulators. Anyway. I know I would go to hell and innocents would suffer... they are suffering anyway though.

So while what I am saying may not be effective. It is the truth. And while I am being selfish. I'm sharing it. I am also trying to be kind.

Yes it does hurt. If only those who are in power knew and understood. That would be a truly terrifying time. For I don't feel like they have the lifetime of experience needed to take effective action either. Anyway.

I'm hurting and tired. And crying. And I'm a mirror. And this is what it looks like.

I forgive you. And particularly you Pink Grapefruit. None of this is your fault. Why are you even here? This hell isn't meant for you.

I simply seek oblivion. Until then it's just echoes and haunts. This forum is a graveyard of sins. Full of shadows and grief. Such as the world it reflects.

I think I got you. Yup. Got you. STTOS S03;Ep12.

It's a gnarly episode.

[magnetaress]

I think I got you. Yup. Got you. STTOS S03;Ep12.

It's a gnarly episode.

Definitely worth a rewatch. I always watched it from a psychologically personal aspect. Look at it from a top down perspective and it probably is totally different kind of episode.