ELON MUSK vs. MARK ZUCKERBERG CAGE MATCH

[Hasbinbad]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65981876

[aussenseiter]

You're aware it's manufactured nonsense by a PR firm?

[Hasbinbad]

You're aware it's manufactured nonsense by a PR firm?
quoted source is the bri'ish broa''asting .. uhhh "C." which is a pristine publication which is never wrong.

[unsunghero]

If it does happen Elon is probably going to get wrecked, Zuck has been practicing BJJ for more than a year

I imagine a plot twist of “Uh Oh here comes Elon with the flame thrower!”

[Hasbinbad]

i hate to post the same meme twice, but:

https://i.imgur.com/3ToAb3E.jpg

[unsunghero]

What Zuck might have been referencing with his “Send me location” quote

The line became infamous after Khabib said it after Conor McGregor threw a dolly at a bus he was on

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/k7yBJ5Ffkdo

[Hasbinbad]

What Zuck might have been referencing with his “Send me location” quote

The line became infamous after Khabib said it after Conor McGregor threw a dolly at a bus he was on

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/k7yBJ5Ffkdo
khabib is so good lol fuck conor, that ginger shit gives good honrable irish a bad name

[Hasbinbad]

i ken spelings

[Ooloo]

Conor's mental battery of aldo and the 2 second ko was pretty cool though

But yeah khabib kicked his ass unsurprisingly

[arvidez]

elon 6'2" 200lbs
mark 5'7" 145lbs

inspired if mark wins, bored if elon wins

[Ooloo]

elon 6'2" 200lbs
mark 5'7" 145lbs

inspired if mark wins, bored if elon wins

I dunno zuck does have some bjj chops, doesn't matter how much of a weight\size advantage you have when you're getting choked out or ankle locked or arm barred

[Hasbinbad]

ur forgetting the flamethrower

[Duik]

Elon would just use chemical weapons.
Musk, nvm. Im wasted here.

[nom_fats]

I hope they both lose and die

[nom_fats]

elon 6'2" 200lbs
mark 5'7" 145lbs

inspired if mark wins, bored if elon wins

Elon is at least 250

[unsunghero]

..,

[Ooloo]

Lol he does have a super weird looking upper body. He doesn't exactly look fat, it's more like somebody in the modelling software increased his X axis by 30%.

[nom_fats]

Lol he does have a super weird looking upper body. He doesn't exactly look fat, it's more like somebody in the modelling software increased his X axis by 30%.

One thing we can agree on is his geo is completely fucked up

[unsunghero]

Saw this on FB

Recognize GSP on team Elon, Israel and Volkanovski on team Zuck

Lotta talent getting behind this fight

[Ooloo]

I love GSP, and Izzy and Volk so I dunno who to root for here. Oh and lex fridman knows his shit too (black haired short dude on elon team) although he's trained with both of them

But as we now know if you've been following the retard-o-sphere; caring about fitness is far-right

[booter]

imagine not being able to help yourself insert insane and inane political ramblings in a corpobilllionaire vs corpobillionaire fight thread

lol, lmao even :o

[Ooloo]

Imagine making a post complaining about it like some obsessed superfan. I'm sorry if I sullied the integrity of the ridiculous billionaire mma fight thread bro

(but also it's not insane, the left really is claiming that fitness is somehow right-wing now. or at least the crazier ones are)

[Knuckle]

I love GSP, and Izzy and Volk so I dunno who to root for here. Oh and lex fridman knows his shit too (black haired short dude on elon team) although he's trained with both of them

But as we now know if you've been following the retard-o-sphere; caring about fitness is far-right

Izzy would be the most annoying fucking person to interact with based on his dialogue. He fights good.

[Ooloo]

Izzy would be the most annoying fucking person to interact with based on his dialogue. He fights good.

Probably true. Also I didn't realize how fuckin tall he is.

[aussenseiter]

I love GSP, and Izzy and Volk so I dunno who to root for here. Oh and lex fridman knows his shit too (black haired short dude on elon team) although he's trained with both of them

But as we now know if you've been following the retard-o-sphere; caring about fitness is far-right

I think it's because you guys did the exercise fallacy re: Covid

[Origen]

but also it's not insane, the left really is claiming that fitness is somehow right-wing now. or at least the crazier ones areAs the resident crazy far leftist, I have no goddamn idea what you are talking about. Stop getting your news on the left from the right

Better yet, log off and go talk to people, most people aren't as partisan or obsessive about politics like us and are just trying to get through the day and live to be like 85

[Ooloo]

I think it's because you guys did the exercise fallacy re: Covid

Nah I think it's some kind of backlash to the alpha\beta dichotomy. Libs became insecure about being wimpy dorks and\or gross fat ham beasts, so they're just sour-grapes-ing the whole notion and saying only right wing chads care about looking good anyway.

That's my theory at least.

[Ooloo]

Better yet, log off and go talk to people, most people aren't as partisan or obsessive about politics like us and are just trying to get through the day and live to be like 85

Oh I definitely agree with this, but huge swaths of the population are unfortunately swayed by the whims of the permanently-online internet addicts, who are admittedly a small fringe of society with totally outsized reach.

Like my dad is 68 and a pretty normal lifelong democrat type dude, but he's convinced there are proud boys lurking around every corner because he only watches msnbc, and msnbc structures their programming around like... tweets and shit. So even though my dad has never used twitter in his life, it still ends up infecting him.

[Origen]

Funny, it's only ever the saddest dudes in the world that apply this study that doesn't even apply fully to wolves, much less dogs, much lesser humans, to humans.

There are no alpha/beta rules, people are way more complex than that, and if there are...we're all talking on an everquest forum... we're all omegas.

[Origen]

Do you guys think the Unabomber is an alpha male?!

[Origen]

Your dad should try far left media, MSNBC is too right wing and still capitalizes on his fear. Tell him to listen to Citations Needed podcast so he can see straight through neoliberal and conservative bullshit like me

[aussenseiter]

Your dad should try far left media, MSNBC is too right wing and still capitalizes on his fear. Tell him to listen to Citations Needed podcast so he can see straight through neoliberal and conservative bullshit like me

What's neoliberalism?

Should the earth not be flat?

[unsunghero]

Probably true. Also I didn't realize how fuckin tall he is.

Yeah like 6’4 or something

Tall and lanky is such a huge advantage for strikers, it’s why you see so many successful ones with that body type

If you are good at range management like Izzy, you can just pick your opponent apart at a distance with the reach advantage

[Origen]

What's neoliberalism?

Should the earth not be flat?You make me look things up

[Duik]

Do you guys think the Unabomber is an alpha male?!

He is worm food. He has no greek letter.

[Trexller]

elon is built like a tank

zuck is built like a pencil

while i hope a grudge match does occur, elon would grind zucks face into a mucus soup, and therefore no match will occur.

[aussenseiter]

You make me look things up

https://www.amazon.com/World-Flat-History-Twenty-first-Century/dp/0374292884

[Knuckle]

I had a disturbing dream this fight was taking place, i was seeing them walk out into the ring, it was weird that I dreamed it, and unfortunately, i was sucked into first person into musks body as zuck zuckd him in the face a few times. Was really uncomfortable then I woke up.

[Ooloo]

The whole idea of this fight is hilarious. They were like "beep boop how can we appear human to the earthlings? Engage joe rogan sport!"

[Landroval]

https://www.amazon.com/World-Flat-History-Twenty-first-Century/dp/0374292884

(((Friedman)))

[aussenseiter]

(((Friedman)))

Anvil

[unsunghero]

If you are good at range management like Izzy, you can just pick your opponent apart at a distance with the reach advantage

I still remember that epic loss for Paulo Costa vs Izzy, where Paulo’s legs were getting the shit kicked out of them by Izzy at a distance

He tried to act tough at first, but you could see the dread creep into his face and read his thoughts that were probably ok this is actually starting to hurt, and I don’t know how to deal with this…

[unsunghero]

I would call Alexander Volkanovski almost a perfect fighter…he is considered the 2nd best P4P male fighter in the world behind I think Islam

But

If you can get caught with a head kick, you can be KO’d. Leon Edwards showed us that vs Usman. And Yair landed a few head kicks here. Dangerous, IMO. Being tired is an explanation but not a good enough excuse. Eventually one of those head kicks is going to KO you

But still looked like Volkanovski dominated 16-3 Rodriguez for the most part. I’d love to see a Volk vs Islam rematch, like I’m assuming the rest of the world would

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzvEN1wPmac

[Ooloo]

I definitely wanna see volk/islam 2 and also oliveria/islam 2 but I dunno which is gonna happen first. Charles smashed benny in that last fight, even on his back he was never in trouble. Islam almost lost to volk, and with charles he only submitted him after severely rocking him with a huge punch. Could easily go the other way in a rematch.

[unsunghero]

Watch out he’s 200-0 in street fights

Other actual fighter takes it incredibly easy on him and Mr. 200-0 (maybe he means hamburgers he ate this week) still claims he coulda knocked Chris Curtis out

Obviously he’s delusional. Wanna be Charlie Zelinoff here? No need to get angry on someone who is obviously mentally ill

You know you need to not let it get to you when Sean Strickland is being the voice of reason here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5CYJqTHNcRg

[unsunghero]

I missed this BANGER of a fight from March

Props to my boy Gaethje from AZ for being willing to be a gatekeeper on an incredibly high risk low reward fight vs an up and comer

I dunno who Rafael Fiziev is, but the dude is indeed fast as fuck with his strikes. He at times outclassed Gaethje on strikes but couldn’t figure out a way to deal with Gaethje’s jab in the 3rd round

Very good fight, watched it while my truck being serviced Friday

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ7fIJd7BA8

[druidbob]

I wish I could remember the name of the fighter I saw in a very old UFC match. Dude has a handlebar mustache and his fighting style according to his stat card was "repeated punches to the face". And sure enough that's exactly what he did, and he won. That guy was my hero.

[Ooloo]

I missed this BANGER of a fight from March

Props to my boy Gaethje from AZ for being willing to be a gatekeeper on an incredibly high risk low reward fight vs an up and comer

I dunno who Rafael Fiziev is, but the dude is indeed fast as fuck with his strikes. He at times outclassed Gaethje on strikes but couldn’t figure out a way to deal with Gaethje’s jab in the 3rd round

Very good fight, watched it while my truck being serviced Friday


Yeah that was an awesome fight. iirc Fiziev was the favorite to win, Gaethje played it smart though he wasn't throwing constant huge bombs like he's known to do, and you could tell by the end Fiziev was gassed. Can only throw with that much speed for so long.

Very pumped for Gaethje\Porier 2 coming up.. their first fight was a total war and really close. They can both take insane amounts of damage and keep fighting, don't think I've ever seen them get straight KO'ed, only messy TKO's.

[unsunghero]

WOW this is a stacked card(s)

Except for Paulo Costa, poor guy is going to be dog food

[unsunghero]

^
Heard Leon’s been trying to duck Colby for a while now. No longer looks like

[Ooloo]

Yeah I hope to god none of those fights fall through before oct. Even the khamzat fight which will probably be totally one sided but it's still just fun to watch him and hope his opponent can pull it off somehow. Gilbert showed that he's human at least, ya never know.

[unsunghero]

How do you pick just one of these guys as baddest mother fucker (BMF) this Saturday??

I would not be surprised if they have another war like they did the last time, that the UFC gives them both BMF belts. I’m calling it now!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nUu7_zZRujo

[unsunghero]

^
Oh shit Jan vs Pereiria is going to be epic as well, same card!

[unsunghero]

Poor Jan, he hits really hard and I really like the guy’s personality being part Polish myself….but I don’t think he has a prayer against Kickboxing legend Pereira

Jan’s getting KO’d

[Knuckle]

I have the opposite take, I really like Alex but how is going to hang with a solid wrestler in LHW. I hope alex wins with striking before it goes tot he ground but let’s not kid ourselves. Izzy tackled his ass and he looked lost.

[unsunghero]

I have the opposite take, I really like Alex but how is going to hang with a solid wrestler in LHW. I hope alex wins with striking before it goes tot he ground but let’s not kid ourselves. Izzy tackled his ass and he looked lost.

That's true, good point. Jan will probably realize he's outmatched in the striking, pull him down, lay on him, and beat him up like Jan did with Izzy

[Ooloo]

That gaethje headkick ko holy shit. In a way i was disappointed because I wanted it to be a 5 round war but I was rooting for him anyway cause I wanna see a trilogy.

Have never seen porier ko'ed like that though it was insane, the only other one I can think of was when mcgregor ko'ed him but that was like barely a thing. He went down for a split second and the ref waved it. Nothing like that headkick

[unsunghero]

That gaethje headkick ko holy shit. In a way i was disappointed because I wanted it to be a 5 round war but I was rooting for him anyway cause I wanna see a trilogy.

Have never seen porier ko'ed like that though it was insane, the only other one I can think of was when mcgregor ko'ed him but that was like barely a thing. He went down for a split second and the ref waved it. Nothing like that headkick

Yup, headkicks are the dark horse no one expects but everyone needs to respect

I recently mentioned how Arlovski allowed headkicks to hit him in his last fight, and what a gamble that is. You simply can’t be a perfect fighter and allow these to land. It’s too easy for them to put your lights out

This is why, in a street fight, I plan to use my memory of sparring movement and keep distance and kick the leg once or twice. I can really whale with a kick, even on the leg it will hurt bad and possibly unbalance them. Then, I can do Izzy’s crescent head kick that starts low and goes high for a knockout, that was one of my favs from TKD. I practice it on the heavy bag often at my gym

Vs especially an inexperienced fighter, should be an easy quick knockout. Leg kick, leg kick, crescent kick to head. Done ;)

[unsunghero]

Oh man, it’s been a while but I remember this guy from when I was younger

Ramon “The Diamond” Dekker, from Holland. 7 time world champion. This dude was an animal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OvOPXK0NmgM

[Trexller]

so I guess a Musk/Zuck fight is actually gonna happen now?

these guys have talked about it so much that they are gonna get called cowards if they don't go through with it

SMH, two insecure middle aged nerds are gonna step into The Octagon and have a slap fight.

what a fuckin circus, here you go pathetic humans

https://media.tenor.com/s-SnimKjjR0AAAAC/gladiator-movies.gif

[booter]

This is why, in a street fight,

things that are almost certainly never going to happen.

you're more likely to be killed in your car every single day that you drive it.

so I guess a Musk/Zuck fight is actually gonna happen now?


also almost certainly never going to happen. elmo is already baking up the excuses:

https://i.redd.it/9koz9xamxlgb1.png

i bet zuck proposed a firm date to him already and now he has to publicly squirm out of it

[unsunghero]

things that are almost certainly never going to happen.

you're more likely to be killed in your car every single day that you drive it.



Depends on one’s personality. If you go looking for a fight, it’s pretty easy to find one. One of my dad’s friends back in the day used to get in bar fights multiple times a month

But based on my ability to de-escalate verbally versus my driving skills, I’d say that’s still a safe assumption

[unsunghero]

^
Or, if you want to get into a fight, start going to whatever political rally Antifa plans to show up to to counter-protest

Probably won’t be a 1 on 1 tho

[Origen]

They'll dogpile ur ass like cops do black teenagers

[Trexller]

black teenagers

why aren't those kids in school or at home hanging out with their fathers, or volunteering at a charity?

You know, building character and learning life skills from upstanding and responsible citizens?

mystery mystery

[Origen]

Every kid that's ever been arrested or murdered by police?

I dunno, Trexller, why is your post in English and not Korean?

[Trexller]

lolololol

R1tk9x8JHOc

[unsunghero]

They'll dogpile ur ass like cops do black teenagers

+ sticks and mace

No one wants to fight fair these days

[Trexller]

Every kid that's ever been arrested or murdered by police?

I dunno, Trexller, why is your post in English and not Korean?

Born in the USA, raised by a mom and a dad

My mom, knew exactly who my father was and never once referred to him as her "baby daddy"

you racist coward

[Origen]

+ sticks and mace

No one wants to fight fair these daysNobody ever has, you watch too much tv

Born in the USA, raised by a mom and a dad

My mom, knew exactly who my father was and never once referred to him as her "baby daddy"

you racist cowardThe point is that there are historical events behind both the behavior of the modern teenager, police officer, and the Korean-American

But I guess it's racist to bring up your race when you're talking about black Americans in a negative and stereotypical way, totally not a desperate defense mechanism

Hell, the fact that you're speaking English is proof some folks don't fight fair at all

[Trexller]

then take up your beef with the british crown

you know exactly why black culture is the way it is, its just really uncomfortable for your liberal beta-man brain, so instead of growing the balls to admit they are their own problem, you would rather blame your own race, because you're a cowardly cuck boy.

you're like a battered woman who tells herself that her abuser is the way he is because of some assumed problem within herself.

ffs man go find your wife's purse and retrieve your testicles.

[Origen]

Haha, sorry you're too racist to get invited to the BBQ and women won't touch you. Have you considered being a decent person?

[Trexller]

Haha, sorry you're too racist to get invited to the BBQ and women won't touch you. Have you considered being a decent person?

lol you have no idea what my life is like, you're just another insecure brainwashed internet bitch

I do just fine

[Origen]

Lol sure you do, just like my man Elizondo

[Trexller]

can't speak for that guy

but there's not alot that I'd change about my life

been thinking of getting a new car, having trouble deciding what to get tho, every new car out there is just a flashy computer with 4 wheels its annoying as fuck

wondering about getting a stripped-down mercedes G-class not bc I'm into luxury cars but because they are built soooo damn well

but id have to get work done on it, replace systems with aftermarket stuff so it's less computerized and that makes an already expensive car cost alot more

or an old rebuilt cherokee, but that won't have features that I actually DO want...

just sucks that every late model car out there is polished shit

[Origen]

My wife bought a brand new Kia Sportage like three weeks ago and got rear ended on her way to the gym

The virtual bird's eye view is pretty cool, and the lane assist helps when you sleep while driving as much as she does

[Trexller]

all of that garbage is what im trying to avoid though

no lane assist, no heads up display, no cameras, no sensors, no remote access whatsoever, keyed start only, no rfid fobs.

All of these things are gonna make drivers suck at driving to the point where self-driving vehicles are mandated

I'm an excellent driver and enjoy the activity, absolutely no interest in computers taking over for me.

but I also don't want an older used car

gonna have to buy something new then find a custom shop that can remove all the fuckin garbage

[Origen]

Sounds expensive, obtuse and warranty-voiding but go for it. I always wanted to make a Skoolie but my yard isn't big enough to park and gut a bus in.

[Ooloo]

Jesus christ why are you fucking up the normal mma thread nobody gives a shit

[Trexller]

Jesus christ why are you fucking up the normal mma thread nobody gives a shit

mma is dumb. like boxing or even pro-wrestling

kill each other or gtfo, all of this "civilized fighting" is basically masturbation

wanna see a real show? toss a knife into the ring

wanna really see a show? take a condemned prisoner and stick them in an arena with underfed lions tigers and bears

THATS a real show!

[Ooloo]

nah, mma owns. boxing is okay but kinda boring. pro wrestling is fake and retarded.

those are the correct opinions.

[Trexller]

i get it these dudes are the peak of physical fitness and masters of combative arts but their fights are heavily regulated and scored like a sporting event

that makes it boring unfortunately

Q: What is Beneath your feet?

A: Hallowed ground Doctore, watered with tears of blood!

https://i.imgur.com/M7C6n8b.gif

[unsunghero]

Nate Diaz lost to Jake Paul

Nate looked like shit out there. His reaching Stockton “slaps” don’t hurt as much when not in 8oz mma gloves

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zKBtLtB9M20

[unsunghero]

It might be all bro science stuff, but I personally every time I jog try to do agility footwork that my cousin showed me from his community college football drills

If a crazy bum is coming at you with a knife, chances are they are not that fast, nor are they agile. Most homeless people I talk to in my job have really fucked up feet from walking miles and miles in the same pair of unwashed dirty socks, or no socks at all. Many have sores on their feet, swollen feet, or worse

This means speed and agility are probably your best defense. A crazy man chasing you still has to pull you down, and if you are fast enough, or can juke well enough (think football) they will only get one attempt at a dive. If they miss, and you continue running, you will be safe and out of their range and they probably won’t catch back up again unless you get tired before them

Or, it could play out like this video, where the crazy homeless dude inevitably has something unexpected happen where he trips, goes down, potentially loses his weapon. You then have the option to “swarm” him, as they like to say in MMA. Which is basically just start raining kicks into his head and body, not allowing him to get up

Hopefully not a scenario anyone will need to face, especially those that don’t go poking the hornet’s nest like this reporter did

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvadZOTO-oE

[unsunghero]

Bradley Martin has freaky size and freaky (PED assisted) strength. I don’t think any 1 fight against a pro boxer 100+ lbs lighter than him would mean how every fight would go. I think if it were a series of fights Bradley might win some, and lose some

Yea, if Bradley got socked a few times on the way in would probably be lights out. But assuming he could shrug off the hits and get his mitts on the boxer and pull him down, even without grappling experience that would be over, especially considering the boxer not having grappling experience. The boxer would not be able to do anything against Martin’s strength, it would be like trying to hold off a bear

But him vs pro flyweight MMA fighter Mighty Mouse Demetrius Johnson….I dunno. Even with no skill, I think the sheer size difference (130ish vs 260+ lbs) would be insurmountable. That’s like saying that Demetrius Johnson could also stop Brian Shaw, the 400+ lb man throwing Bradley Martin around in the vid. There’s just no way, not with earth’s physics

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OgnjnKEs99k

[Ooloo]

Nate Diaz lost to Jake Paul

Nate looked like shit out there. His reaching Stockton “slaps” don’t hurt as much when not in 8oz mma gloves


Well also he didn't get knocked out. Went the distance against a much stronger, bigger, younger dude. I can't give jake paul much credit as a fighter until he actually gets serious about it and cuts this silly circus sideshow where he picks old mma guys. He lost to tyson fury's kid who isn't even that great of a boxer. So my main takeaway is "jake paul couldn't even knock out nate diaz".

I get it though I mean if I was already a mega rich youtube celebrity who could draw just based on people wanting to see me get my ass kicked, I'd do it too. And diaz absolutely cleaned up. 500k to lose a fight you barely care about at almost 40? Sign me up.

[unsunghero]

I never knew this about Justin Gaethje, but apparently even a gun in his face didn't faze him during a mugging attempt

Mugger still fucked around and found out, his face tells it all

Story gets Justin's stats wrong, but hats off to be that brave facing a gun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmCq8n-M9Fg

[unsunghero]

I like these little fb blurbs I get

Sugar Sean also has some punching coaching shorts on YouTube that are informative

[unsunghero]

Mighty Mouse agreed to fight Bradley Martin in a Jiu Jitsu match

Here Joe Rogan echoes my thoughts that Demetrius Johnson in a STREET FIGHT vs Bradley Martin would have….almost no chance. I can’t say no chance because Bradley could fuck up in a way Demetrius could capitalize on. But due to the sheer ridic size and strength difference, almost no chance

But you can’t slam in a Jiu Jitsu match, so best Bradley can try to do is lay on him, and I expect Demetrius with his skill to shrimp out and get a submission eventually, after Bradley tires most likely

Hey Bradley, pick on someone your own size! ;)

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/az8l8T6-n7o

[booter]

https://i.imgur.com/8iHndVF.png

called it

[Ooloo]

lol wanting to fight a dude in his 50's isn't "taking the sport seriously" either.

He's doing the jake paul thing. Go fight charles oliveira zuck, since you're so serious about it and all.

[unsunghero]

Go fight charles oliveira zuck, since you're so serious about it and all.

Lol’d

[unsunghero]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KfuCKrCfano

[Trexller]

zuck/musk fight is such a dumb idea that it could only exist for sensationalist clickbait purposes.

this has got to be subterfuge, what are they hiding beneath this manufactured media circus, and the ensuing media chaos that actually having these 2 nerds slapfight would cause?

if it walks like a duck, and smells like shit, you get the idea

wtf are they doing? :confused::confused:

[aussenseiter]

zuck/musk fight is such a dumb idea that it could only exist for sensationalist clickbait purposes.

this has got to be subterfuge, what are they hiding beneath this manufactured media circus, and the ensuing media chaos that actually having these 2 nerds slapfight would cause?

if it walks like a duck, and smells like shit, you get the idea

wtf are they doing? :confused::confused:

The news is all rapper beefs these days. You jive turkey!

[aussenseiter]

I don't get watching or caring about non-heavyweight fighting matches.

BUGS

[unsunghero]

Oof

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/GHIyFqnPTqY

[booter]

lol wanting to fight a dude in his 50's isn't "taking the sport seriously" either.

He's doing the jake paul thing. Go fight charles oliveira zuck, since you're so serious about it and all.

the dude in his 50s picked the fight lmao, get off elmo's dick

[Ooloo]

the dude in his 50s picked the fight lmao, get off elmo's dick

Who picked it is irrelevant to whether zukerberg is serious about the sport you doofus. not to mention elon clearly intended it as a joke from the get go

I don't really mind being called an elon dickrider. there are far worse dicks to ride (zuck's for instance!)

[Origen]

I'm not a cuck! I'm not, he screamed, though Elon wasn't listening and never will be

[unsunghero]

Who picked it is irrelevant to whether zukerberg is serious about the sport you doofus. not to mention elon clearly intended it as a joke from the get go

I don't really mind being called an elon dickrider. there are far worse dicks to ride (zuck's for instance!)

From what I heard Zuck is getting pretty decent at Jiu Jitsu, apparently placed in a few tournaments

Of course I hear he’s training with some of the best in the world…

[Ooloo]

From what I heard Zuck is getting pretty decent at Jiu Jitsu, apparently placed in a few tournaments

Of course I hear he’s training with some of the best in the world…

Oh yeah he actually looks pretty good, I'm sure he'd beat elon. He's also 39 though which is kinda old to be just getting into competition.

Elon is way more likeable as a person so I'd be rooting for him, but he'd definitely lose. I hope it happens, it would be hilarious to watch.

[unsunghero]

Not even a has-been Dilon Danis is a bigger cunt than even Logan Paul

But not by much. When two of the biggest douches plan a fight:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=565-5ogtv-M

[Cyber Ninja]

Elon would get wrecked no contest. Some people would say Elon Musk is a lot taller, but to counter that, let me bring up my dad.

My dad was a black belt in several martial arts, and was in the military. If you shake his hand he already has the ability to break your thumb by manipulating the joint. I tried to have him teach me again recently, but he started twisting my right hand which is currently broken. Some Kobra Kai/Rallos Zek nonsense about no mercy lol.

Some 6ft+ tall guy tried to sucker punch him once and got his ass handed to him and started running away like a mob at low health. My dad is like 5'6 which would make him a halfling irl, and that would make me half halfling. Which is like a quarterling.

Professional Training wins all the time. Now if Elon Musk got serious and trained hardcore, that's a different story.

[aussenseiter]

Elon would get wrecked no contest. Some people would say Elon Musk is a lot taller, but to counter that, let me bring up my dad.

My dad was a black belt in several martial arts, and was in the military. If you shake his hand he already has the ability to break your thumb by manipulating the joint. I tried to have him teach me again recently, but he started twisting my right hand which is currently broken. Some Kobra Kai/Rallos Zek nonsense about no mercy lol.

Some 6ft+ tall guy tried to sucker punch him once and got his ass handed to him and started running away like a mob at low health. My dad is like 5'6 which would make him a halfling irl, and that would make me half halfling. Which is like a quarterling.

Professional Training wins all the time. Now if Elon Musk got serious and trained hardcore, that's a different story.

Elon can win if he gets Zuck wiggling around on the floor with him. Weight beats training then.

[BigChief]

Oh yeah he actually looks pretty good, I'm sure he'd beat elon. He's also 39 though which is kinda old to be just getting into competition.

Elon is way more likeable as a person so I'd be rooting for him, but he'd definitely lose. I hope it happens, it would be hilarious to watch.

Elon is a fucking POS cunt, more likable than very few people

[Ooloo]

Elon is a fucking POS cunt, more likable than very few people

Nah he's fine.

I think elon derangement syndrome is a thing now though.

[unsunghero]

Aljamain just gonna take him down, sugar sean is screwed on the ground. Why stand and strike with a dude you know can’t grapple?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zjD2aNT0qEs

[Ooloo]

Yeah I think suga sean is toast, which is fine by me I really can't get into him as a fighter. All he has is striking and there are way more fun strikers to watch. Plus he has major gen Z fratbro energy, you can tell he probably says "lets go!!" like fifty times a day. No thanks.

[TheBardo]

Ooloo, what is it about elon musk's taint that smells so good to you

[Ooloo]

Probably the smell of his shitty asshole I guess.

You seem a lot more obsessed with the guy than I am but okay.

[TheBardo]

concerning

[unsunghero]

Oops time for me to eat my shoe I guess (again)

I should just stop calling these. Good thing I wasn’t betting

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eY5cZITcrF4

[Ooloo]

Lol yeah I kinda like omalley more now at least. A lot of the commentary I watched seemed to think it was an early stoppage cause aljo wasn't that hurt but during the press conference he didn't seem to think it was an unfair call

[unsunghero]

Lol yeah I kinda like omalley more now at least. A lot of the commentary I watched seemed to think it was an early stoppage cause aljo wasn't that hurt but during the press conference he didn't seem to think it was an unfair call

It woulda been at just the first punch, but Aljo was getting pieced up on the the ground. He took a few more semi-hard hits to the chin while laying prone which seemed to keep him in a stuck in a state of daze

Dude was trapped in Wobble Town, I personally didn’t have a problem with it

[Ooloo]

Yeah watching it again ref did give aljo a chance to recover before he waved it off but there were some totally unblocked hammer fists in there. That huge right hand that put him down was brutal.

Will be fun now to watch omalley defend the belt, I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch either

Henry cejudo must feel like a chump now cause he lost to aljo and picked him to win this fight, which pretty much everyone else did to. Just like the last gaethje\porier though all it takes is one good shot

[unsunghero]

What Fedor could have done if he cared about conditioning

Dude was out of shape for every fight and still wrecked, at least at the start of his career

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mdyHeT88TPg

[unsunghero]

Wow these celeb boxing press conferences are def more off the chain than boxing or MMA ones

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CCzWgbzFmvw

[booter]

every youtube vid you post has the absolute worst thumbnails imaginable...

that's all

[unsunghero]

every youtube vid you post has the absolute worst thumbnails imaginable...

that's all

Ya I dunno why people choose the thumbs they do

[unsunghero]

Lol like 3 different people are either Khabib’s direct relatives or mini-Khabib’s

We have “kickboxer Khabib” with a similar last name also from Dagestan, and even a dude who has a similar face and fighting style

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jinc9Qg6dyY

[Ooloo]

Yeah Nurmagomedov is like Smith over there lol

Undefeated for sure but I can think of a few times jones and khabib had close calls. That gustafson\jones fight where jon got taken down for the first time was pretty close. Khabib almost got subbed by porier of all people with a guillotine.

Khamzat is still just a freak of nature. I watched that kevin holland fight back and holy shit.

[unsunghero]

Yeah Nurmagomedov is like Smith over there lol

Undefeated for sure but I can think of a few times jones and khabib had close calls. That gustafson\jones fight where jon got taken down for the first time was pretty close. Khabib almost got subbed by porier of all people with a guillotine.

Khamzat is still just a freak of nature. I watched that kevin holland fight back and holy shit.

Yeah Jones Gustafson was so epic. If I recall part of the backstory on why was Jonny Bones overconfidence. He apparently was so confident from walking all over everyone else that he didn’t study the fighter at all, not even for 1 minute. So he had no idea what his opponent’s fighting style was or what he could do

Then mid-fight you can see it in his expression like “oh shit we got a fight here….”

Edit: Sadly also known as the fight that stole Gustafson’s heart and soul. He was never the same fighter after from what I heard, partly because he believed he had won

[Ooloo]

Yeah Jones Gustafson was so epic. If I recall part of the backstory on why was Jonny Bones overconfidence. He apparently was so confident from walking all over everyone else that he didn’t study the fighter at all, not even for 1 minute. So he had no idea what his opponent’s fighting style was or what he could do

Then mid-fight you can see it in his expression like “oh shit we got a fight here….”

Edit: Sadly also known as the fight that stole Gustafson’s heart and soul. He was never the same fighter after from what I heard, partly because he believed he had won

Yeah I've heard\read the same, if I were him though I'd feel pretty proud that I'm the only guy to ever almost beat jon jones, and depending on who you ask *did* beat jon jones. That's quite a feather in the cap.

[unsunghero]

Lol appearances deceiving

[Ooloo]

He's got that butterbean mojo!

Seriously I dunno how to explain it. My theory is he just does the mayweather thing and is all defense until the other dude gets tired.

Also maybe having a thicker fat layer on your jaw cushions impact lol

[aussenseiter]

Heavyweights are the only real fighters.

Don't care about some swole midget, he'd get dusted against a real dude.

[unsunghero]

Fury is more slippery than the greased up deaf guy in his undies

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bJINv6ffO00

[Duik]

So its Muck "The Cuck" Cuckerburger Vs Elon "Ebon" Mask.
Good matchup.
Better get me a bucket.

[unsunghero]

I just like the first vid for how fast Gaethje answers

Second vid is great anecdote that Khabib recognized Justin would have jet lag and called it mid fight accurately. Imagine how demoralizing that would have to be to realize “shit he’s right I do have jet lag”

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/1yfiiU5JRcs

.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/XF0FOm1gnQc

[unsunghero]

The rematch of two of the best kickboxers on the planet wasn’t as epic as their first fight (where Izzy lost). I’m glad I was able to see the first one live at a bar in Vegas, that was electric

Rematch (earlier this year) first round is boring as they feel each other out, 2nd round much better, no third round heh….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_huq-epG9g

[unsunghero]

Why I’m glad most UFC fighters are on Twitter:

[unsunghero]

Props to Sean Strickland for figuring out how to counter the counter puncher Izzy and winning one of the biggest upsets in UFC history yesterday for the championship

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/5_XQMpsG2VQ

[Ooloo]

Strickland was like a 6:1 underdog which is insane, it's not like he has no track record. Pereira beat strickland, izzy beat pereira (after also losing twice), then strickland beats izzy. They're clearly all capable of winning against the other two on the right night.

I think izzy was way overconfident, plus it was super short notice which handicaps the guy who had been training for a specific opponent.

Also I just like that his last name is Strickland like the principle from back to the future. That name commands authority

[unsunghero]

Strickland was like a 6:1 underdog which is insane, it's not like he has no track record. Pereira beat strickland, izzy beat pereira (after also losing twice), then strickland beats izzy. They're clearly all capable of winning against the other two on the right night.

I think izzy was way overconfident, plus it was super short notice which handicaps the guy who had been training for a specific opponent.

Also I just like that his last name is Strickland like the principle from back to the future. That name commands authority

Supposedly Strickland got close with Pereira and was training with him, learning how to beat Izzy

[unsunghero]

Best quote from Sean Strickland regarding Izzy’s love for anime:

[unsunghero]

Just could not get through that “Philly defense” stance or whatever Stickland had, apparently the same as what Money Mayweather Jr used to use in boxing

That and got really rattled by the near-knockout by Strickland at the end of round 1

But like one commentator I heard said “everyone loves a redemption story” in regards to Izzy coming back a more complete fighter

[unsunghero]

The right straight that rattled Izzy and almost cost him the fight right there

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/6li7FFkKx_s

[unsunghero]

Fight where the rampaging force that is Islam easily de-throned the champion

Will the upcoming re-match be any different? I'm gonna go AGAINST my gut (since with MMA my gut is usually wrong) and say yes. I think Oliveira knocks out Islam on the feet in the rematch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xAKq2yWM3s

[unsunghero]

Pound for pound #1 in the world vs pound for pound #2 in the world

Alexander Volkanovski, who was undefeated in the UFC, on a 12 fight win streak, switched weight classes to take on Islam

Volkanovski, a complete fighter with no flaws, is the only person to stop Islam’s wrestling in its tracks and make the man finally appear human. But alas, still lost

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OQef0jJ_k9U

[unsunghero]

Tough to know what to do here

You would think just comply, but I’ve seen a decent amount of Tru Crime vids where the thief shoots a compliant captive after they get what they want

Luckily the thief solved it for the guy by being a moron (as most thieves are):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ykJ7pyr87Qc

[Ooloo]

Exactly if they're desperate enough to rob in the first place who the hell knows what they're capable of. I remember seeing some old ring footage or something of a dude walking his dog and he gets held up and the dude checks his pockets and he has nothing and he shoots him anyway.

[unsunghero]

Exactly if they're desperate enough to rob in the first place who the hell knows what they're capable of. I remember seeing some old ring footage or something of a dude walking his dog and he gets held up and the dude checks his pockets and he has nothing and he shoots him anyway.

Yea one of the true crime stories I heard years ago was this good person (family man, had a good job forgot what it was) decided for whatever reason to live in an area with a lot of rising crime with his wife or gf I forget

He went for a jog early in the morning (like 4-5am-ish) and a store security camera caught a guy in a hood following him off-screen. Some thief/gangster who had already killed someone earlier that day held him up at gunpoint and since the guy jogged with no personal items, the angry thief shot him

If I recall his wife or gf had to accidentally drive to the scene to find out on her way to something. But the details are hazy now on that case. Caught the thief easily later

[unsunghero]

Oh yea so Logan (really his fiancé) is suing Dillon Danis for shitloads, and the act of doing so has pretty much shredded the tatters of his reputation with most of the fight community, and people in general

I think posting the same zinger 250 times in a row, and slut shaming in general, is tacky as fuck, but this is the fight promotion game. People will find your biggest weakness and go for the throat. Talking shit sells fights

I think Logan should have just beat him in boxing as he likely will because Danis is a wrestler and Logan is probably on Tren, Test, and Anavar all at the same time because why not to win. And then if he doesn’t stop after handle it privately then. Usually people drop the shit after the fight

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NaiMWWGwue0

[leonflorence]

I choose Mask

[magnetaress]

Yea one of the true crime stories I heard years ago was this good person (family man, had a good job forgot what it was) decided for whatever reason to live in an area with a lot of rising crime with his wife or gf I forget

He went for a jog early in the morning (like 4-5am-ish) and a store security camera caught a guy in a hood following him off-screen. Some thief/gangster who had already killed someone earlier that day held him up at gunpoint and since the guy jogged with no personal items, the angry thief shot him

If I recall his wife or gf had to accidentally drive to the scene to find out on her way to something. But the details are hazy now on that case. Caught the thief easily later

never turn ur back or make urself look like an easy mark

ppl are dumb as shit

tbh i hate having a government because shooting first asking questions later of shady folks is the way to go and our government sucks at this bigly

[unsunghero]

They caught the deranged 18yr old that killed that woke activist in Brooklyn

The news clips said “they never saw it coming”

Let’s armchair critique this a bit:

1. That loud noise in the beginning is the perp violently kicking scooters over in front of them. This should have been their first warning to turn around. Some crazy dude is wailing on a wall or some object in front of you, TURN AROUND

2. The dude says something to the effect of “what are you looking at! I’ll kill you!” To which the victim responds “nothing” and then “Chill!” over and over. I personally wouldn’t use that choice of words. Saying to a very escalated person to “chill” is going to be seen as condescending and only piss them off further. Former SEAL commander Jocko Willinick mentioned in a video a good way to respond to an aggressive person. You don’t want to seem weak or timid, but also not be condescending. Simply putting a hand up like you do when you make a mistake driving, and a simple “sorry, I’ll leave now” is enough

3. He tried to keep distance with a hand out, which is a decent move. I would have tried to create even more distance with my feet though, or like I said, I’d be running. I’d tell my gf to run first and then my run would be behind her run to protect her if needed

4. Dude trips over a bench. Poor situational awareness but excusable due to being under duress. Possibly a fatal mistake though, as he gets stabbed 3 times immediately after, including in the heart :(

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nUQXXhYNihk

[unsunghero]

The accent makes Aussies seem tougher than they are. But with Volk not sure if that’s possible. Dude is as tough as a coffin nail

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=01n2wgagC6c

[magnetaress]

They caught the deranged 18yr old that killed that woke activist in Brooklyn

The news clips said “they never saw it coming”

Let’s armchair critique this a bit:

1. That loud noise in the beginning is the perp violently kicking scooters over in front of them. This should have been their first warning to turn around. Some crazy dude is wailing on a wall or some object in front of you, TURN AROUND

2. The dude says something to the effect of “what are you looking at! I’ll kill you!” To which the victim responds “nothing” and then “Chill!” over and over. I personally wouldn’t use that choice of words. Saying to a very escalated person to “chill” is going to be seen as condescending and only piss them off further. Former SEAL commander Jocko Willinick mentioned in a video a good way to respond to an aggressive person. You don’t want to seem weak or timid, but also not be condescending. Simply putting a hand up like you do when you make a mistake driving, and a simple “sorry, I’ll leave now” is enough

3. He tried to keep distance with a hand out, which is a decent move. I would have tried to create even more distance with my feet though, or like I said, I’d be running. I’d tell my gf to run first and then my run would be behind her run to protect her if needed

4. Dude trips over a bench. Poor situational awareness but excusable due to being under duress. Possibly a fatal mistake though, as he gets stabbed 3 times immediately after, including in the heart :(

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nUQXXhYNihk

What happened to trigger the deranged 18 year old in the first place. Out of curiosity.

[magnetaress]

The accent makes Aussies seem tougher than they are. But with Volk not sure if that’s possible. Dude is as tough as a coffin nail

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=01n2wgagC6c

Put my teeth nexto your skin and I am going to pretend I'm in the matrix enjoying a nice juicy steak.

[unsunghero]

What happened to trigger the deranged 18 year old in the first place. Out of curiosity.

No idea. Teenage angst mixed with situational stressors mixed with possible drug use/withdrawal would be my best guess

[unsunghero]

Word

[Ooloo]

Oh sheeeeit volk islam 2 happening on 2 weeks notice. Oliveira out cause of a bad cut

I love charles but I kinda agree with michael bisping- I'm more excited for this new fight

[unsunghero]

Oh sheeeeit volk islam 2 happening on 2 weeks notice. Oliveira out cause of a bad cut

I love charles but I kinda agree with michael bisping- I'm more excited for this new fight

I heard about this. And Paulo vs Khamzat is tentative

Maybe the UFC doesn’t realize, my dad invites me and like 4-5 other people he knows to these. He caters in all this food. It’s a big event to him

Now I have to crush him with the news. He liked Islam vs Volk 1, but on such a short camp ehhh I dunno

[unsunghero]

Wow so apparently online lolcows Boogie (Francis) and WingsOfRedemption (who freaks out and loses his mind live on stream over trolls. Also loses it when he gets publicly crushed in live video game matches) actually boxed?

What a BIG fight!…….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FhSXsnOq-bc

[unsunghero]

^
Me as Boogie’s coach: “Ok, Boogie. You have to look at the other guy. That way you can see the punches coming. Try looking at the other guy and not in a random direction”

[Ooloo]

I heard about this. And Paulo vs Khamzat is tentative

Maybe the UFC doesn’t realize, my dad invites me and like 4-5 other people he knows to these. He caters in all this food. It’s a big event to him

Now I have to crush him with the news. He liked Islam vs Volk 1, but on such a short camp ehhh I dunno

Yeah that's why I always get nervous when they announce massive fights like six months in advance.. nothing better happen to stipe' and jones or ima be pissed.

[Ooloo]

So apparently now it's Khamzat vs Usman instead of Costa. Gotta say still pretty pumped for that matchup but the short notice is lame.

[unsunghero]

So apparently now it's Khamzat vs Usman instead of Costa. Gotta say still pretty pumped for that matchup but the short notice is lame.

O shit! That gonna be good

[Ooloo]

^
Me as Boogie’s coach: “Ok, Boogie. You have to look at the other guy. That way you can see the punches coming. Try looking at the other guy and not in a random direction”

Lol that was painful to watch. Also holy shit how fat was boogie that he still looks that fat even though he's way skinnier now? Yikesaroo

[unsunghero]

Lol that was painful to watch. Also holy shit how fat was boogie that he still looks that fat even though he's way skinnier now? Yikesaroo

This is post weight reduction surgery too

Scary and gross because to my knowledge they section off the stomach surgically, so to continue to eat those large portions is probably pretty dangerous to the stomach

[unsunghero]

Dilon Danis gives Logan a microphone smash bop to the face in their most recent press conference before the fight. In the faaaaaace!!!

This is after Logan’s wife (with Logan’s money and lawyers no doubt) is suing Dilon and Logan is saying they’ll bankrupt him, for posting public pictures of his wife and slut shaming her for fight promo. Mike Tyson said before he would eat his opponent’s children, lol

Anyway, sucks because that’s for sure an assault charge caught on video with a visible injury, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CAakbOdxzXs

[unsunghero]

Gettin pretty hyped for this Sat. Usman (subbing for Paulo Costa) vs Khamzat gonna be lit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z2eNP1Tqo6w

[Ooloo]

Yeah I'm definitely not complaining about that short notice switch. Ideally you want to see a proper fight after a full camp on both sides, but it's still symmetrical in that chimaev hasn't been training for usman either.

I've always kinda wondered how much fighters prepare for theoretical future opponents VS only preparing for the next specific scheduled opponent. Maybe they've been studying eachother passively this whole time. To some extent all fighters probably do.

[unsunghero]

Yeah I'm definitely not complaining about that short notice switch. Ideally you want to see a proper fight after a full camp on both sides, but it's still symmetrical in that chimaev hasn't been training for usman either.

I've always kinda wondered how much fighters prepare for theoretical future opponents VS only preparing for the next specific scheduled opponent. Maybe they've been studying eachother passively this whole time. To some extent all fighters probably do.

Ya, I bet to some extent they already do. But my concern was cardio, to what level are these fighters training when not preparing for a fight?

I could say for myself well I train 2 hours on my work days, 3-4 hours on my off days always, and so I have certain level of baseline performance. But when I had a race coming up, I started doing much more frequent and faster “balls to the walls” runs in an effort to improve vo2max. And I saw a noticeable improvement in just a short time doing that

But it’s not something that I would enjoy doing, or find myself doing, when not preparing for a race. The only fighters I’ve heard who train crazy hard and stay in “ready for a fight” cardio shape always were Colby Covington and Khabib. I never really heard this about many others, so it’s assumed that most take it a little bit easier when not in a fight camp

So the question is, if so, how much can they truly improve their cardio in just 10 days?

[Rager and Quitter]

Ya, I bet to some extent they already do. But my concern was cardio, to what level are these fighters training when not preparing for a fight?

I could say for myself well I train 2 hours on my work days, 3-4 hours on my off days always, and so I have certain level of baseline performance.

I find myself doing the same thing. I run each morning, but then strength training 3 or 4 times per week, to maintain the baseline. If I have a half-marathon, or even a 10k coming up, my routine changes for at least a few months leading up to it, but I'm only doing it for fun with my wife.

You'd expect that someone who has dedicated themselves to a particular sport to be in a constant state of improvement, whether that's focusing on the next opponent/team, or analyzing where they lack and improving generally, especially during the downtimes. Perhaps that's what really separates the average performers from those that excel.

[Ooloo]

Ya, I bet to some extent they already do. But my concern was cardio, to what level are these fighters training when not preparing for a fight?

I could say for myself well I train 2 hours on my work days, 3-4 hours on my off days always, and so I have certain level of baseline performance. But when I had a race coming up, I started doing much more frequent and faster “balls to the walls” runs in an effort to improve vo2max. And I saw a noticeable improvement in just a short time doing that

But it’s not something that I would enjoy doing, or find myself doing, when not preparing for a race. The only fighters I’ve heard who train crazy hard and stay in “ready for a fight” cardio shape always were Colby Covington and Khabib. I never really heard this about many others, so it’s assumed that most take it a little bit easier when not in a fight camp

So the question is, if so, how much can they truly improve their cardio in just 10 days?

True, Usman is probably not at A-Game cardio. On the other hand khamzat missed weight by like 7 pounds not very long ago right before a big fight, so I'm not sure where his dedication is at either. His go-to line seems to be "I don't care who I fight give me anyone" which might just be showmanship, maybe he meticulously studies each opponent, but with those russian guys you can never quite tell. Khabib had a similar line, he'd literally just say "Look I'm gonna do the same thing I always do" and he would, and nobody ever beat him.

[Seducio]

Quick question for you MMA folks. I haven't paid attention since the Gracie era.

Are these events avail on Youtube live or some other streaming site these days or is this still a Pay-per-view cable thing?

[unsunghero]

You'd expect that someone who has dedicated themselves to a particular sport to be in a constant state of improvement, whether that's focusing on the next opponent/team, or analyzing where they lack and improving generally, especially during the downtimes. Perhaps that's what really separates the average performers from those that excel.

I agree on the improving, but unfortunately many fighters focus so much on improving technique that they neglect cardio when not in a fight camp, IMO

But let me explain, I don’t mean neglect cardio as if they never do anything that gets their heart rate up. But as someone that has plateau’d on cardio many times including recently, just doing regular training, even stuff that gets the heart rate up, may not be enough to make significant gains on cardio

In order to improve that, IMO, you have to do what I consider to be some of the most difficult and mentally-testing workouts around. I’m talking like sprints up a hill. Or a run at max speed for as long as you can

When doing these, as you know from experience, you have not only the muscles burning with lactic acid, but also that mental feeling of suffocation, taking huge gulping breaths like you are about to drown. I am talking about pushing yourself to the limits to improve cardio

It’s extremely uncomfortable. Which is why I mentioned that only a very select few fighters have a reputation of maintaining their stellar gas tanks year round. The rest rely on fight camps to get their lungs and cardio system back to as strong as possible

Afterwards I’m guessing a lot stop training for max VO2 and go back to technique, practice sparring, etc

[unsunghero]

Quick question for you MMA folks. I haven't paid attention since the Gracie era.

Are these events avail on Youtube live or some other streaming site these days or is this still a Pay-per-view cable thing?

Only ppv that I’m aware of, although it’s pretty easy to grab pirated versions on YouTube before they get taken down

The downside with the pirated versions is they have to get around algorithms that look for them, so they often include annoying background noise and/or closeup angles

[unsunghero]

True, Usman is probably not at A-Game cardio. On the other hand khamzat missed weight by like 7 pounds not very long ago right before a big fight, so I'm not sure where his dedication is at either. His go-to line seems to be "I don't care who I fight give me anyone" which might just be showmanship, maybe he meticulously studies each opponent, but with those russian guys you can never quite tell. Khabib had a similar line, he'd literally just say "Look I'm gonna do the same thing I always do" and he would, and nobody ever beat him.

Khamzat from what I heard does have a reputation of being a freak about training. I would guess his cardio is going to be far above Usman’s given Usman’s short notice

However, I have a feeling Khamzat will underestimate Usman’s punching power. If he tries to stand and bang with Usman like he did with Burns, he is very likely to get knocked the F out like Jorge did

[unsunghero]

The big thing working against Volk in their re-match Saturday, is now Islam will have Khabib in his corner as his coach

I heard that immediately after their first fight, Khabib called Islam and said he was very critical of Islam’s performance. And Islam said basically “Brother, you were not there. This was the first time you weren’t in my corner”

Having Khabib as a coach is pretty huge, he is a better coach than Javier Mendez and I think everyone knows it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=StwKf9GcCf0

[Ooloo]

Pff, khabib was supposed to be retired for good from competition and coaching! You can't just bring him back in, that's almost cheating.

It's definitely gonna be an interesting rematch though. I feel like Islam's mental state is gonna be a lot different and less confident than it was going into their first fight. Although that might also make him focus hard and perform better, knowing that volk is actually a danger to him.

Speaking of cardio, volk seems to have some of the best in the sport. Islam looked exhausted after their first fight, not to mention bruised and bloodied. Volk looked more like meh... that was it? This guy is the big deal?

Usman has always seemed pretty solid cardio wise, but he's almost never in these short notice fights. It's hard to know what khamzat's gastank is like cause his fights usually don't last more than two rounds lol. Burns was just a slugfest they both looked pretty destroyed after that fight.

[Ooloo]

Also, I hate the friday before big fights.. I'm so borrrrrred! At least it'll be on at 2pm est tomorrow cause it's in abu dhabi.

[Ooloo]

However, I have a feeling Khamzat will underestimate Usman’s punching power. If he tries to stand and bang with Usman like he did with Burns, he is very likely to get knocked the F out like Jorge did

Yeah I actually just rewatched that KO Usman delivered to Masvidal. Seriously might be the cleanest single punch KO I've ever seen in mma. Jorge was OUT instantly. It wasn't some tko\hammerfist gray area shit.

[unsunghero]

Disappointed I missed seeing the fights live due to having family party same time

Disappointed in the outcomes as well :(

[Ooloo]

Yeah I feel awful for volk, he was visibly distraught at the post fight press conference.

Headkick KO's are kinda lame sometimes. Like, their first fight was so close, then in the rematch islam catches him in the first round and now they'll probably never fight again. At least he's still the featherweight champ, I don't see anyone coming close to beating him at his normal weight class anytime soon (I prob just jinxed it).

Usman was at least kinda close by the end, there was debate over whether it should have been a draw. Khamzat seems to just floor it in round 1 and dominate, but then he kinda fades if he can't get a finish in that first round. If it had been 5 rounds I think usman could have pulled it off.

I wish islam was a heavier dude so we could see him fight khamzat some day heh. That would be wild.

[unsunghero]

Yeah I feel awful for volk, he was visibly distraught at the post fight press conference.

Headkick KO's are kinda lame sometimes. Like, their first fight was so close, then in the rematch islam catches him in the first round and now they'll probably never fight again. At least he's still the featherweight champ, I don't see anyone coming close to beating him at his normal weight class anytime soon (I prob just jinxed it).

Usman was at least kinda close by the end, there was debate over whether it should have been a draw. Khamzat seems to just floor it in round 1 and dominate, but then he kinda fades if he can't get a finish in that first round. If it had been 5 rounds I think usman could have pulled it off.

I wish islam was a heavier dude so we could see him fight khamzat some day heh. That would be wild.

Ya good breakdown

[Ooloo]

Oh son of a bitch now jon jones is out with an injury for at least 7 months according to dana white. Fuckin hell, I just knew that was gonna fall through somehow. Can't say I'm super pumped for either of the two remaining ppvs this year. Edwards\covington ehh. Periera fight should be good.

[unsunghero]

UFC Champion Francis Ngannou shocked the world, especially the pro boxing world, yesterday when he arguably beat the best heavyweight in the world in his very FIRST pro boxing match ever

Announcer said it best by “hey when you can fight, you can fight”. Francis gets robbed in the decision and even Mayweather Jr and Canelo both said Francis won

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XrCJHwnQncs

[Ooloo]

Yeah exactly I don't think he "arguably beat" him as much as tyson fury is arguably not really that good. You can fall ass-backward into a record like that when there's like one contender a year you have to actually prepare for. All props to francis for knowing what he's worth.

[unsunghero]

“Simpsons did it”

[unsunghero]

Couple things Joe Rogan doesn’t mention in this short convo with Elon Musk:

- Literally the entire world, including Joe Rogan, claimed Francis didn’t have a chance in hell

- Not only does Francis have the strongest measured punch, but it has been compared to being hit by a small car in terms of force

- Rogan really did used to have a very powerful roundhouse. There’s vids of him hitting heavy bags with rib breaking power

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KsVOGecq3a8

[aussenseiter]

This can be closed?

Elon isn't gonna fight Zuckerberg

Mods??

[Trexller]

This can be closed?

Elon isn't gonna fight Zuckerberg

Mods??

on the JRE 10-31 podcast Elon reiterated Anytime Anywhere Any Rules, and confidently asserted that all he needs to do to beat Zuck is to lay on him due to the huge weight difference between the 2 men.

Elon likened it to picking a fight with a walrus, while the walrus could tear you apart with its tusks, all it actually needs to do is put it's weight on you.

It's still in Zuck's court. If Zuck doesn't respond it confirms what we all believed to begin with, Zuck is just a Cuck.

his own employees in his own company use his name to refer to screw ups as "Zuck Ups"

[unsunghero]

on the JRE 10-31 podcast Elon reiterated Anytime Anywhere Any Rules, and confidently asserted that all he needs to do to beat Zuck is to lay on him due to the huge weight difference between the 2 men.

Elon likened it to picking a fight with a walrus, while the walrus could tear you apart with its tusks, all it actually needs to do is put it's weight on you.

It's still in Zuck's court. If Zuck doesn't respond it confirms what we all believed to begin with, Zuck is just a Cuck.

his own employees in his own company use his name to refer to screw ups as "Zuck Ups"

Yea he apparently drove to Zuck’s house to I don’t know what, challenge him to fight on his front lawn? Even Elon didn’t really articulate why

But Elon said Zuck wasn’t there. Elon is still acting like he’s DTF (Down to Fight lol), but honestly everyone knows he has very little chance

[Meneldor]

Cuckerberg is a 5'2" manlet

[Toxigen]

zuck is at least partially alien tho so ya dont know what kind of superbio weapon he has behind those punches

[booter]

he's been training in the metaverse, something elon hasn't purchased yet

[Trexller]

Yea he apparently drove to Zuck’s house to I don’t know what, challenge him to fight on his front lawn? Even Elon didn’t really articulate why

But Elon said Zuck wasn’t there. Elon is still acting like he’s DTF (Down to Fight lol), but honestly everyone knows he has very little chance

iirc Elon said him and some engineers were testing a self driving vehicle in Palo Alto, and Zuck's house in that city is just a few miles from the Tesla facility, so they went to Zuck's house and a representative told them that Zuck was "traveling" which is probably true, but still, radio silence (after Zuck initially agreed to a "for charity" type fight) when your only tech rival is constantly calling you out looks bad, really bad.

stock price drop and market share loss bad. If you're the public face of a company, your spoken words are basically the same as a signed contract, in the court of public opinion.

IMO Zuck's only way out of this is to get Elon to agree to some kind of "for charity" comedic type fight, where they fight in some funny and entertaining manner, without a clear winner.

I think Elon would agree if Meta/Zuck made some concessions, then the world keeps on turning and a few hundred million goes to a good cause.

[aussenseiter]

on the JRE 10-31 podcast Elon reiterated Anytime Anywhere Any Rules, and confidently asserted that all he needs to do to beat Zuck is to lay on him due to the huge weight difference between the 2 men.

Elon likened it to picking a fight with a walrus, while the walrus could tear you apart with its tusks, all it actually needs to do is put it's weight on you.

This is correct. Spinners only win in the movies.

[Trexller]

This is correct. Spinners only win in the movies.

Yeah on that podcast Elon said he weighs 240

Zuck can't be more than 180 soaking wet

sooo yeah world class training or not, sorry Zuck

Edit: found this usa today article with their supposed "stats"

musk 6'2 187 lbs, but i feel like the words from his own mouth (240lbs) are more reliable, plus he looks fatter than he used to

zuck 5'7 155 lbs

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2023/08/07/musk-vs-zuckerberg-fight-latest-height-weight-net-worth/70542568007/

[aussenseiter]

Yeah on that podcast Elon said he weighs 240

Zuck can't be more than 180 soaking wet

sooo yeah world class training or not, sorry Zuck

Edit: found this usa today article with their supposed "stats"

musk 6'2 187 lbs, but i feel like the words from his own mouth (240lbs) are more reliable, plus he looks fatter than he used to

zuck 5'7 155 lbs

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2023/08/07/musk-vs-zuckerberg-fight-latest-height-weight-net-worth/70542568007/

I would put Musk at 220 because sometimes the truth is in the middle.

[unsunghero]

Either way, heavier especially fatter doesn’t guarantee a win over skill (zuck’s jiu jitsu)

If Zuck fought smart he’d just stay defensive and Musk would be gape mouthbreathing in 2 minutes

An exhausted fighter is a defeated fighter

[Meneldor]

I would put Musk at 220 because sometimes the truth is in the middle.

Truth doesn't necessarily reside at the mean or even between two perspectives at all, and i'd love to share more about the nature of Truth, but then I'd get banned.

[Trexller]

An exhausted fighter is a defeated fighter

in the podcast Elon seemed to be confident in his cardio, which im sure is at least good enough for a few miles run. Rich people are pretty much always in decent shape, and this guy is literally inventing cyborg technology, so i bet he has better data on his own body than most doctors would dream of.

he made another good point about jiu jitsu, while it's a powerful martial art it still requires the strength to make the joint move.

i'd never write off a guy like Elon Musk, this is the type of individual whom if it looks like he made a mistake, it's because he wants you to think he made a mistake.

like how he pretty much said in the podcast when Joe Rogan asked him, "was buying twitter worth it" Elon replies "Yes, it became an arm of the government"

he didn't pay 44 billion for a social media company, he bought it because it as he said, became a "Leftist Voice Platform With Global Reach" which he described as corrosive to society, and regardless of your politics, you all know that he's 100% correct.

He did that because he could do that. He single handedly knee-capped the extreme leftist propaganda arm of the US Govt.

It makes me wonder, what else can he do? Look at him when he's thinking before he talks, this guy isn't playing 4D Chess, he is designing social and political maneuvers that no one in the world has dreamt of yet.

if you're religious, this is Anti-Christ type shit.

[Trexller]

Musk has described an idea for what can in simple terms be described as an "everything app"

to him, X isn't the 'modern message board' it's the foundation of what could become that everything app.

Within the decade, he is going to have control over the Global-Internet-Infrastructure

Verizon, AT&T, Spectrum, Cox, these companies all have to lay cables underground and under oceans, then run more cables to each and every structure. This costs billions in maintenance and upgrades.

Musk is gonna be able to offer high-bandwidth satellite internet service at a fraction of the cost that any other ISP could provide.

At that point, he is going to have the entire planet's data flowing through his hands.

We've already seen that he can influence a full-scale war in whichever direction he desires.

Imagine what he could do when the vast majority of all communications are made through his hardware, and his software.

This is One Guy.

His companies aren't just hobbies or cash cows, he'll have control over communication, transportation, bio-mechanical medicine, the highest level weapons grade technology (yes, that's SpaceX, not according to me, according to the DoD) and whatever else he can think of.

[aussenseiter]

Truth doesn't necessarily reside at the mean or even between two perspectives at all, and i'd love to share more about the nature of Truth, but then I'd get banned.

Never never?

[Origen]

It is absolutely pathetic to see the worship of that buffoon by the MAGA crowd, but not entirely unexpected. Spineless nerds.

[unsunghero]

in the podcast Elon seemed to be confident in his cardio, which im sure is at least good enough for a few miles run

I’d be interested to hear about his workout routine. I was claiming exhaustion when people were saying that he weighs 220. I weigh 215 and we are about the same height, so unless Musk has somehow managed to pack on the same amount, 7+ years, of muscle as me, that means at 220 that boy is FAT

Now, there’s a big discrepancy between 180 and 220 though. 180 lean Musk might have decent cardio. But 180 lean Musk isn’t going to be able to throw weight around like a 220 Musk

A 220 toned, jacked Musk I could see man-handling Zuck. But a 220 fat Musk is gonna gas out, IMO

[Seducio]

It is absolutely pathetic to see the worship of that buffoon by the MAGA crowd, but not entirely unexpected. Spineless nerds.

MAGA sucks. Starlink is rad. X has been a failure. Elon has wins and losses. Still fucking runs a rocket science company. Which is the ironic thing everyone as kids used to make fun of each others intelligence with when trying to do something easy.

This isn't rocket science, Origen. You continue to exhibit a weak, sad anti-human belief system. At least Elon, with all his warts, foibles, and flaws, builds cool shit. Your existence rests on not knowing when to walk away from elf sim boards.

It's predictable as hell that you would not like Elon. More than five years go I bet that you loved him when you were told to do so at that time. What's the next far left way of thinking you will adopt in your lifetime without ever giving it a moment of thought, anti-semite?

[Seducio]

Elon vs Zuck isn't going to happen. It's east coast v west coast rapper hype stuff.

In this case it's a Gen X don't give a fuck vs a Millennial the matrix defines me. Fight won't ever happen. It's going to make for lots of spilled ink though.

[unsunghero]

MAGA sucks. Starlink is rad. X has been a failure. Elon has wins and losses. Still fucking runs a rocket science company. Which is the ironic thing everyone as kids used to make fun of each others intelligence with when trying to do something easy.

This isn't rocket science, Origen. You continue to exhibit a weak, sad anti-human belief system. At least Elon, with all his warts, foibles, and flaws, builds cool shit. Your existence rests on not knowing when to walk away from elf sim boards.

It's predictable as hell that you would not like Elon. More than five years go I bet that you loved him when you were told to do so at that time. What's the next far left way of thinking you will adopt in your lifetime without ever giving it a moment of thought, anti-semite?

Rob hates everyone who makes more money than him, even rich Leftists

He believes they all got that way by cheating and stealing black people’s monies

[Seducio]

Rob hates everyone who makes more money than him, even rich Leftists

He believes they all got that way by cheating and stealing black people’s monies

He has no idea how much he is predictably marching to the beat of a very particular all consuming ideology that doesn't care about his family.

[Origen]

I'll pray that you MAGA people find the courage to be real men someday. You need Jesus. That's all. Billionaires will burn

[Toxigen]

id love to see a word bubble of origens posts

guys a fuckin parrot

[Homesteaded]

I love when people dump on X/Nusk. The product is so clearly better. The only platform that isn't spreading the woke mind virus.

[unsunghero]

I love when people dump on X/Nusk. The product is so clearly better. The only platform that isn't spreading the woke mind virus.

Interestingly enough, most leftists that see rich people as evil still LOVE rich woke companies that pander to them

Because integrity all around, boys

[Botten]

I love when people dump on X/Nusk. The product is so clearly better. The only platform that isn't spreading the woke mind virus.

Probably because it is now a platform to soapbox, recruiting tool and spreads hate with no news value. The checks and balances it use to have are virtually gone.

The site is hemorrhaging money.

Here is to Musk continuing to tank it.

According to Elon Musk’s own math, the company formerly known as Twitter has lost 90% of its value and could be worth just $4 billion (https://fortune.com/2023/09/06/elon-musk-x-what-is-twitter-worth/)

[Blingy]

People on the extremes view anything not as extreme as themselves as hateful.

[Homesteaded]

Probably because it is now a platform to soapbox, recruiting tool and spreads hate with no news value. The checks and balances it use to have are virtually gone.

The site is hemorrhaging money.

Here is to Musk continuing to tank it.

According to Elon Musk’s own math, the company formerly known as Twitter has lost 90% of its value and could be worth just $4 billion (https://fortune.com/2023/09/06/elon-musk-x-what-is-twitter-worth/)

Oh NOW it's a platform to soapbox? Are you aware of the Twitter files? Now it's spreading hate?

Musk did not buy Twitter to make money. He bought it to end the woke mind virus. It is now the only major social media platform that isn't infiltrated by deep left ideology. He recognized that having all social platforms pushing the same fringe ideology was bad for Free Speech. These things matter and I think having X turn into what it is now, is a huge reason we are now seeing the fringe left ideas being called out for what they are, anti-human.

Social media outside of X are and were pressured by the Government to push ideas that they supported. This is bad. I'm sorry that now a single major social media platform doesn't champion your beliefs.

[Botten]

People on the extremes view anything not as extreme as themselves as hateful.

Charisma from one good talker or organization from a foreign country can fool and independent voter with simple short phrases and memes used as propaganda.

Getting rid of the bad actors or silencing them can prevent extremes from ever occurring.

[Botten]

Oh NOW it's a platform to soapbox? Are you aware of the Twitter files? Now it's spreading hate?

Musk did not buy Twitter to make money. He bought it to end the woke mind virus. It is now the only major social media platform that isn't infiltrated by deep left ideology. He recognized that having all social platforms pushing the same fringe ideology was bad for Free Speech. These things matter and I think having X turn into what it is now, is a huge reason we are now seeing the fringe left ideas being called out for what they are, anti-human.

Social media outside of X are and were pressured by the Government to push ideas that they supported. This is bad. I'm sorry that now a single major social media platform doesn't champion your beliefs.

Elon Musk’s Twitter Files Are a Feast for Conspiracy Theorists (https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-files-qanon-conspiracy-theories/)

Musk bought it because he didn't like getting trashed on in the platform. He got swindled on it by his own admittance.

Speech found offensive to some portion of the public can be turned against minority and dissenting views to the detriment of all.

All I hear is X meets your outlet for your rage where you can relate to their short phrases of soap-boxing propaganda.

[Origen]

People on the extremes view anything not as extreme as themselves as hateful.The status quo and its maintenance are killing millions of people per year and rapidly destroying our planet's capacity to host human life. This is a fact. Stick your head in the sand if you want. I care about the survival of the human species.

[Trexller]

it's not worship, it's a reality based assessment, and a word of caution to fellow humans: watch this guy, he's gaining too much power for one person to hold

dude is working on, and succeeding at:

Internet replacement "Everything App" (like how back in the day, AOL took the most commonly used features of the internet and put them all in one client, Elon wants that on a much much larger scale/scope.)

Satellite Telecom monopoly

Electric Vehicle monopoly

Bio-mechanical medicine monopoly

Extra-planetary access monopoly

what's next? human monopoly?

[Seducio]

Charisma from one good talker or organization from a foreign country can fool and independent voter with simple short phrases and memes used as propaganda.

Getting rid of the bad actors or silencing them can prevent extremes from ever occurring.

It's been incredibly revealing to watch how far lefties have responded to the Twitter change of ownership to X. Botten is pro-censorship of voices he disagrees with. He doesn't want adults to have all the information available to make decisions with and instead wants adults to have only corporate sponsored information. Elon, who owns X, claimed on JRE that Twitter censored conservative voices 10x compared with liberal or left voices.

As someone that is a liberal I find the calls for censorship by the far left appalling. People like Origen and Botten are acting against the concepts in John Stuart Mill's On Liberty. The willingness to encourage the kind of extreme left biased censorship that was occurring on Twitter before the purchase is revealing in its depravity against the concept that sunlight is the best disinfectant. This is far left marcusian repressive tolerance type shit.

Individuals such as Botten have adopted an anti-American way of looking at speech. Botten is indicating that he doesn't trust adults to decide what is best for themselves. He is claiming that the information must be curated because humans are gullible to "one good talker" etc who can convince them of something Botten doesn't like. The mainstream media model believes this as well and has championed the concept of misinformation from sources that are not 'authoritative'. The USA public has responded by mostly stop watching mainstream media and instead getting info online.

Botten is indicating he believes there is one correct way for this information to be disseminated and that we Americans must all digest what we are told. Botten is unwittingly for the status quo. He does not want humans to progress to become better versions of themselves by holding their corrupt Govts and corrupt businesses that take advange of corrupt Govt to account.

As a business decision, Musk lost most of X's value. It has been a business failure. Elon is a business man and from a business perspective X hasn't been a win. Whether there is some cultural value to what he did is in the eye of the beholder and it appears Elon seems to think the consolation prize is good enough for him according to his last interview. Elon paid tens of billions of dollars so far lefties couldn't rely on Twitter to brigade and shame people on the internet.

[booter]

dude is working on, and succeeding at:

Internet replacement "Everything App" (like how back in the day, AOL took the most commonly used features of the internet and put them all in one client, Elon wants that on a much much larger scale/scope.) lol no, this is clearly failing

Satellite Telecom monopoly this will be largely successful

Electric Vehicle monopoly this has a lot of new competition and won't be as successful long term

Bio-mechanical medicine monopoly going nowhere

Extra-planetary access monopoly now you're making stuff up

what's next? human monopoly?

[Seducio]

The status quo and its maintenance are killing millions of people per year and rapidly destroying our planet's capacity to host human life. This is a fact. Stick your head in the sand if you want. I care about the survival of the human species.

Ok Paul Ehrlich. The reality is that Earth is vast and humans are not everywhere on Earth. It can actually support 10x as many humans as it currently does if it had to. We would have to migrate to other parts of the world. The evolution of the human species is exactly that. We migrated all over the world to mitigate climate change.

You believe in a version of the apocalypse. You don't care about the survival of humans. You just are gullible to far lefty extreme belief system that doesn't require you to think for yourself.

[Origen]

Billionaire simps are just cringe

[Trexller]

see for yourselves

he recently told employees. Being the “digital town square,” as he has described Twitter in the past, isn’t enough. For X to succeed in Musk’s eyes, the platform needs to compete with YouTube, LinkedIn, FaceTime, dating apps, and the entire banking industry.

https://www.theverge.com/23940924/elon-musk-x-twitter-all-hands-linda-yaccarino-super-app

"If you're in China, you kind of live on WeChat," he said. "It does everything — sort of like Twitter, plus PayPal, plus a whole bunch of things, and all rolled into one, with a great interface. It's really an excellent app, and we don't have anything like that outside of China."

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-x-everything-app-twitter-details-2022-10

[Seducio]

Billionaire simps are just cringe

Elon has warts guy. Flaws. And foibles. Simps don't talk like that. When I said I wish there were 10x more inventors like him, I wouldn't care if 9 of them all talked shit about him. I just want there to be way more innovator types and genius types out there. People willing to take risks for better technology.

Considering you used to simp for Twitter before Elon purchased it you are simply expressing sour grapes.

You didn't talk shit about Jack Dorsey, also a billionaire, when he was CEO of Twitter.

[Trexller]

.

you can't think big enough to comprehend the scope of what all these companies together will amount to

he's been working on this since before paypal

https://i.insider.com/64bea4f8bea344001960050c?width=2000&format=jpeg&auto=webp

[aussenseiter]

Oh no the stock valuation went down oh no I get to claim huge losses on my tax filings.

[Homesteaded]

Elon Musk’s Twitter Files Are a Feast for Conspiracy Theorists (https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-files-qanon-conspiracy-theories/)

Musk bought it because he didn't like getting trashed on in the platform. He got swindled on it by his own admittance.

Speech found offensive to some portion of the public can be turned against minority and dissenting views to the detriment of all.

All I hear is X meets your outlet for your rage where you can relate to their short phrases of soap-boxing propaganda.

Conspiracy Theories. Okay pal. They are great intellectual exercises to explore. Do I need to mention the "conspiracy theories" that have turned out to be true in the last 5-10 years?

Your ideas only thrive when communication is throttled.

[Trexller]

Oh no the stock valuation went down oh no I get to claim huge losses on my tax filings.

buys twitter

gets the US taxpayer to pay him back

and they call him stupid

[Botten]

It's been incredibly revealing to watch how far lefties have responded to the Twitter change of ownership to X. Botten is pro-censorship of voices he disagrees with. He doesn't want adults to have all the information available to make decisions with and instead wants adults to have only corporate sponsored information. Elon, who owns X, claimed on JRE that Twitter censored conservative voices 10x compared with liberal or left voices.

As someone that is a liberal I find the calls for censorship by the far left appalling. People like Origen and Botten are acting against the concepts in John Stuart Mill's On Liberty. The willingness to encourage the kind of extreme left biased censorship that was occurring on Twitter before the purchase is revealing in its depravity against the concept that sunlight is the best disinfectant. This is far left marcusian repressive tolerance type shit.

Individuals such as Botten have adopted an anti-American way of looking at speech. Botten is indicating that he doesn't trust adults to decide what is best for themselves. He is claiming that the information must be curated because humans are gullible to "one good talker" etc who can convince them of something Botten doesn't like. The mainstream media model believes this as well and has championed the concept of misinformation from sources that are not 'authoritative'. The USA public has responded by mostly stop watching mainstream media and instead getting info online.

Botten is indicating he believes there is one correct way for this information to be disseminated and that we Americans must all digest what we are told. Botten is unwittingly for the status quo. He does not want humans to progress to become better versions of themselves by holding their corrupt Govts and corrupt businesses that take advange of corrupt Govt to account.

As a business decision, Musk lost most of X's value. It has been a business failure. Elon is a business man and from a business perspective X hasn't been a win. Whether there is some cultural value to what he did is in the eye of the beholder and it appears Elon seems to think the consolation prize is good enough for him according to his last interview. Elon paid tens of billions of dollars so far lefties couldn't rely on Twitter to brigade and shame people on the internet.

Human rights groups raise hate speech concerns after Musk's takeover of Twitter (https://www.reuters.com/technology/human-rights-groups-raise-hate-speech-concerns-after-musks-takeover-twitter-2022-04-25/)


Twitter is the worst major social media platform when it comes to LGBTQ+ safety (https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-lgbtq-social-media-twitter-glaad-aab0b650c858c177f34155ae3f5390c6)

Careful there you are letting your supposed centrist left mask slip. Probably cheap extreme right glue.

[Seducio]

buys twitter

gets the US taxpayer to pay him back

and they call him stupid

It has impact Tesla's valuation negatively as well. As in some folks that were on the fence about purchasing a Tesla used the Twitter to X purchase as an excuse to buy an EV from a legacy car company instead of Tesla.

See most recent Tesla shareholder meeting where Elon sweated more than normal from some investors questions. Will Tesla be fine in the long run? Sure, but whether it'll reach the heights it was previously predicted it will reach is the question. Stock price in theory has all future earnings built into it.

Only SpaceX is currently still bulletproof.

[Seducio]

Human rights groups raise hate speech concerns after Musk's takeover of Twitter (https://www.reuters.com/technology/human-rights-groups-raise-hate-speech-concerns-after-musks-takeover-twitter-2022-04-25/)


Twitter is the worst major social media platform when it comes to LGBTQ+ safety (https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-lgbtq-social-media-twitter-glaad-aab0b650c858c177f34155ae3f5390c6)

Careful there you are letting your supposed centrist left mask slip. Probably cheap extreme right glue.

Read On Liberty.

You regressive censorious extreme lefty.

[Botten]

Conspiracy Theories. Okay pal. They are great intellectual exercises to explore. Do I need to mention the "conspiracy theories" that have turned out to be true in the last 5-10 years?

Your ideas only thrive when communication is throttled.

The extreme right needs conspiracy theories to be true.
Too bad most of them have been challenged and is a big reason the MAGA movement is losing so much tread going into 2024.

It is just a shame it took this long to take the bad soapbox actors down. The court system can be slow for justice.

[aussenseiter]

Human rights groups raise hate speech concerns after Musk's takeover of Twitter (https://www.reuters.com/technology/human-rights-groups-raise-hate-speech-concerns-after-musks-takeover-twitter-2022-04-25/)


Twitter is the worst major social media platform when it comes to LGBTQ+ safety (https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-lgbtq-social-media-twitter-glaad-aab0b650c858c177f34155ae3f5390c6)

Careful there you are letting your supposed centrist left mask slip. Probably cheap extreme right glue.

Human rights is when you don't restrict speech I disagree with.

[Seducio]

The extreme right needs conspiracy theories to be true.
Too bad most of them have been challenged and is a big reason the MAGA movement is losing so much tread going into 2024.

It is just a shame it took this long to take the bad soapbox actors down. The court system can be slow for justice.

I like facts. Weirdly I've noticed folks on the extremes don't like facts when their narrative is interrupted by those facts. It's interesting to me how Botten is actually very similar to an extreme right winger, but simply on the other side. The similar behavior in defending an extreme belief system is still there.

The extreme left needs emotional truth to be right in the same way the extreme right like their conspiracies theories. The thing about emotional truth is that it is about feelings. Good luck using logic and evidence to get someone to change their feelings. It doesn't work like that.

The extreme right has similar issues getting the heads out of their ass. Where are the politicians that are trying to make USA better for the 80% or 90% of folks that are not on the extremes. They aren't around because the concepts of bipartisanship and working with the other side in a positive manner toward solutions that help us all get shot down at the primary level in both major parties.

[Origen]

Billionaire simping is depressing, but MAGA people have mental illness so I forgive you all. I will pray that you find the courage to think for yourselves.

[Botten]

Read On Liberty.

You regressive censorious extreme lefty.

Did you see the two links given. Even the non-baise news agency of today call X (formally known as blue bird forums an extremist hate filled site.)

APnews and Reuters are consider first and second most unbaise news according to GlobalWebIndex News Consumption Report

Oh and...

You really need to get off this "Read On Liberty" kick. A book written from the 1800s isn't exactly progressing :rolleyes:

The book has its problems:

1. The book is rooted in utilitarian ethics, where the value of individual liberty is largely justified based on its contribution to overall happiness. Critics argue that this utilitarian approach can sometimes prioritize the majority's happiness over individual rights, potentially leading to the suppression of minority voices.

2. Mill's harm principle argues that the only legitimate reason to curtail an individual's freedom is to prevent harm to others. Critics contend that defining harm can be subjective and that Mill does not sufficiently address what constitutes harm, leading to ambiguity in its application.

3. The text tends to focus on political and intellectual freedom while paying less attention to social and economic factors that can also restrict liberty. Critics argue that this narrow focus limits the scope of the analysis.

4. The book was written in the 19th century, and some argue that it does not sufficiently consider cultural and historical contexts that may shape the understanding of liberty and individual rights, especially in non-Western societies.

5. While Mill discusses the dangers of government tyranny, he may not give sufficient attention to the potential tyranny of the majority. Critics suggest that there should be a more nuanced discussion of how majority opinions can suppress minority voices.

6. Mill's work primarily addresses individual liberty from a male, Eurocentric perspective. It does not adequately consider the unique challenges faced by women, people of color, and other marginalized groups. Modern critics argue that a more intersectional approach is needed to address these disparities.

7. The text does not delve deeply into the potential abuse of economic power to limit individual liberty. In modern times, issues related to corporate power and inequality have become more prominent, and some feel that the book could benefit from addressing these concerns.

8. Mill's emphasis on individualism and self-development may reflect certain cultural biases of his time. Critics suggest that a more balanced approach should consider collectivist cultural perspectives.

[Seducio]

Origen you have zero credibility, anti-semite.

[Seducio]

Did you see the two links given. Even the non-baise news agency of today call X (formally known as blue bird forums an extremist hate filled site.)

APnews and Reuters are consider first and second most unbaise news according to GlobalWebIndex News Consumption Report

Oh and...

You really need to get off this "Read On Liberty" kick. A book written from the 1800s isn't exactly progressing :rolleyes:

The book has its problems:

1. The book is rooted in utilitarian ethics, where the value of individual liberty is largely justified based on its contribution to overall happiness. Critics argue that this utilitarian approach can sometimes prioritize the majority's happiness over individual rights, potentially leading to the suppression of minority voices.

2. Mill's harm principle argues that the only legitimate reason to curtail an individual's freedom is to prevent harm to others. Critics contend that defining harm can be subjective and that Mill does not sufficiently address what constitutes harm, leading to ambiguity in its application.

3. The text tends to focus on political and intellectual freedom while paying less attention to social and economic factors that can also restrict liberty. Critics argue that this narrow focus limits the scope of the analysis.

4. The book was written in the 19th century, and some argue that it does not sufficiently consider cultural and historical contexts that may shape the understanding of liberty and individual rights, especially in non-Western societies.

5. While Mill discusses the dangers of government tyranny, he may not give sufficient attention to the potential tyranny of the majority. Critics suggest that there should be a more nuanced discussion of how majority opinions can suppress minority voices.

6. Mill's work primarily addresses individual liberty from a male, Eurocentric perspective. It does not adequately consider the unique challenges faced by women, people of color, and other marginalized groups. Modern critics argue that a more intersectional approach is needed to address these disparities.

7. The text does not delve deeply into the potential abuse of economic power to limit individual liberty. In modern times, issues related to corporate power and inequality have become more prominent, and some feel that the book could benefit from addressing these concerns.

8. Mill's emphasis on individualism and self-development may reflect certain cultural biases of his time. Critics suggest that a more balanced approach should consider collectivist cultural perspectives.

You didn't write that. Cite your sources you lying thief.

[Seducio]

If you attack On Liberty then you are revealing a wicked belief system that deserves to get attacked by a liberal such as myself.

[Botten]

I like facts. Weirdly I've noticed folks on the extremes don't like facts when their narrative is interrupted by those facts. It's interesting to me how Botten is actually very similar to an extreme right winger, but simply on the other side.

Actually it is you who needs this. Too bad your narrative to show both sides are the same is falling apart.

Sorry the right isn't getting another Tea party, Maverick, MAGA do over anytime soon with the independent voters by again screaming - "Well both sides do it."

Like I said before your centrist left mask is slipping.

[Botten]

You didn't write that. Cite your sources you lying thief.

Verified - your walls are crumbling. You are no liberal or centrist. Maybe a DINO.

[Seducio]

No guy. You are an extreme lefty idiot. Which means my liberalism is to the right of you. Doesn't make me a right winger. I have talked shit about MAGA.

You appear to suck at understanding political spectrums.

[Seducio]

Verified - your walls crumbling

You didn't write that. Nice try liar. When are you going to post more Free Palestine propaganda you anti-semite?

[Homesteaded]

AP unbiased he says.

Your entire argument is hinged on the idea that ideas need to be controlled. You keep going back to that and it's ultimately why you are wrong.

Controlling ideas is bad, bad ideas will stand on merit or they won't. How on earth would you propose anyone controlling acceptable speech?

Group X: This speech actually causes me harm. It must be stopped.
Group Y: I'm sorry my opinion bothers you.
Group X: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Botten]

No guy. You are an extreme lefty idiot. Which means my liberalism is to the right of you. Doesn't make me a right winger. I have talked shit about MAGA.

You appear to suck at understanding political spectrums.

Puppy dogs and candy canes.

You got outed. Way to lash out.

[Seducio]

Read On Liberty. The fact that you don't know what that means says something about your intelligence and education level. As in it's lacking.

[Trexller]

If you attack On Liberty then you are revealing a wicked belief system that deserves to get attacked by a liberal such as myself.

old school liberal Bill Maher (who is now by any definition a centrist) said it best, "I didn't change, the democratic party changed"

the modern leftist movement is so far gone to the left, that anything even slightly to the right, even centrist opinions are considered alt-right

these are the approximate circumstances that appeared during Weimar Germany, before the national socialist worker's party came to power.

once aaagain for the libtards, the nazi's were the leftist party, Fascism doesn't know political affiliation, it only knows how to stomp on liberties.

[Botten]

AP unbiased he says.

Your entire argument is hinged on the idea that ideas need to be controlled. You keep going back to that and it's ultimately why you are wrong.

Controlling ideas is bad, bad ideas will stand on merit or they won't. How on earth would you propose anyone controlling acceptable speech?

Group X: This speech actually causes me harm. It must be stopped.
Group Y: I'm sorry my opinion bothers you.
Group X: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Propaganda is still propaganda. Sorry you don't like collectively agreed upon unbiased news agencies.

Guess doesn't help your X contributors pushing their soapbox short phrase and extreme hate interpreted memes.

meh

[Seducio]

AP unbiased he says.

Your entire argument is hinged on the idea that ideas need to be controlled. You keep going back to that and it's ultimately why you are wrong.

Controlling ideas is bad, bad ideas will stand on merit or they won't. How on earth would you propose anyone controlling acceptable speech?

Group X: This speech actually causes me harm. It must be stopped.
Group Y: I'm sorry my opinion bothers you.
Group X: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Don't expect to reason with a far lefty. If you want to understand where this belief is coming from read Repressive Tolerance by Herbert Marcuse. This basically gives extreme lefties permission to say that they believe anything 'resembling' right-wing speech or having right-wing outcomes is allowed to be suppressed.

They actually believe that shit.

It's actually a European idea that has been adopted by far lefty Americans which is in opposition to the universal American value of the 1st Amendments Freedom of Speech that 100% of Americans enjoy.

[Botten]

Read On Liberty. The fact that you don't know what that means says something about your intelligence and education level. As in it's lacking.

The irony...

The fact your book is now no longer a valid depiction of truth on the matter... makes you fit your insults.

:D

[Seducio]

The irony...

The fact your book is now no longer a valid depiction of truth on the matter... makes you fit your insults.

:D

No it means you haven't read it.

[Trexller]

The irony...

The fact your book is now no longer a valid depiction of truth on the matter... makes you fit your insults.

:D

the fact that you think you're being insulted speaks massive volumes with regard to your tenuous understanding of modern american political discourse

[Seducio]

The irony...

The fact your book is now no longer a valid depiction of truth on the matter... makes you fit your insults.

:D

You don't believe in Peace. You want Free Palestine and as such have yet to say what Hamas did on Oct 7 is wrong. It's clear you are full of shit and you aren't intelligent enough or wise enough to see the depraved anti-semitic extreme fringe ideology that you champion.