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Caridry
07-08-2011, 01:18 PM
when were these added into the game? i thought these were original with all the other planes... but i dont see anyone doing them here or even speaking of them yet..

Barkingturtle
07-08-2011, 01:19 PM
You enter both through Velious zones.

Ele
07-08-2011, 01:22 PM
They are part of the Velious expansion.

Plane of Growth is accessed through Wakening Lands (between Skyshrine and Kael).

Plane of Mischief is (originally) accessed through North Temple of Veeshan. (Much later the zone in was moved to Eastern Wastes/Great Divide one or the other).

Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin
07-08-2011, 01:23 PM
Starie crosses her fingers.

I really hope that when Velious is released the Mischief porty castle is in Eastern Wastes.

gnOme
07-08-2011, 01:27 PM
Starie crosses her fingers.

I really hope that when Velious is released the Mischief porty castle is in Eastern Wastes.



It was moved to Great Divide, and I seriously doubt it will be anywhere but in NtoV as that's the only place it was located during velious.

Caridry
07-08-2011, 01:29 PM
ohhhh yeah wakening lands was velious haha... man it has been TOO long.. i love this server =)

Nytewind TP
07-08-2011, 01:39 PM
Wakening Lands always gives me the visions of the panthers and the monks Black Panther Skin armor. Love the black look on them.

Nanto
07-08-2011, 05:55 PM
is NToV just as impossible to get into as VP? so no chance of anyone but TR seeing mischief?

azeth
07-08-2011, 05:58 PM
is NToV just as impossible to get into as VP? so no chance of anyone but TR seeing mischief?

naw, regardless of whos on top when Velious drops NToV is doable. It'll take more than a zerg to drop Aaryonar, Vyemm, Vulak etc, but it's not hard.

Mischief is a group zone pretty much.

baalzy
07-08-2011, 05:59 PM
Anyone can walk into NToV if I remember correctly. Necros with both Harmshield & Veil can FD hop to the mischief portal.

Nytewind TP
07-08-2011, 06:07 PM
You'd normally want to spend time kill Velious Giants such as the ones in Kael which would raise your faction with the dragons. This would allow you easier access into NToV without aggroing some mobs you won't need to fight. (ie the drakes and some wurms)

Harrison
07-08-2011, 06:09 PM
Starie crosses her fingers.

I really hope that when Velious is released the Mischief porty castle is in Eastern Wastes.

If it is in GD, I will rage.

Getting to PoM is a rite of passage.

disco
07-08-2011, 06:25 PM
Anyone can walk into NToV if I remember correctly. Necros with both Harmshield & Veil can FD hop to the mischief portal.

how FD works now, that will be fun... and take forever. :p

baalzy
07-08-2011, 07:10 PM
It's not a super long run to get to the portal if you zone in with SoW & aren't KoS to the other dragon residents (allowing you to start your sprint at the door to NToV)

Motec
07-08-2011, 08:02 PM
Bard speed clicky song of travel and sneak made it very easy as a monk. Always had a da idol spare tho.

As a cleric I'll definitely give it a shot, I imagine the pathing will easily allow a DA cast on p1999.

Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin
07-10-2011, 12:57 AM
That's disappointing. It was one of my favorite zones to go waste time in... It'll be a lot more difficult for me to get there and then once I do, I can't kill a whole lot of anything since I'm a cleric this time around.

It was a pretty empty zone if I remember, even after the castle porty thing was moved. I'm really sad, it'll take a raid to get a group there it sounds like..

/depressed.

Harrison
07-10-2011, 01:02 AM
PoM won't be the same if the exploits don't work and/or aren't allowed.

I suspect PoM will be a shell off what it should be, here.

Atmas
07-10-2011, 04:32 AM
is NToV just as impossible to get into as VP? so no chance of anyone but TR seeing mischief?

I believe VP, relatively speaking to gear available prior to it, is probably the toughest zone ever released with it's intended difficulty.

Also with a SoW and knowing where you are going and what to avoid it's not too tough to run to Mischief. I know I did it way before it was moved to GD.

jps1979
07-11-2011, 03:43 PM
PoM run video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1112220594722964311) Not the best quality video but give you an idea of how to do the run. Try and get the bard's selo's accelerating chorus(lvl 49 bard song) for the run. Also doing the run without Aaryonar and Dagarn the Destoyer up is recommended.

Nanto
07-12-2011, 08:31 AM
PoM won't be the same if the exploits don't work and/or aren't allowed.

I suspect PoM will be a shell off what it should be, here.


care to elaborate?

baalzy
07-12-2011, 12:54 PM
care to elaborate?

PoM was a huge f'd up mess on live and nobody ever fully understood it.

Hard to recreate something that nobody understands.

falkun
07-12-2011, 01:01 PM
I would imagine Mischief as SOE's version of "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!" I had very little experience with the zone on live, but everything I've seen and heard about the zone was that it was awesome, but in an out-of-the-box way that did not fit the mold used for the rest of the game.

SupaflyIRL
07-12-2011, 01:24 PM
PoM was on the fringe, weird, and potentially lethal if you misstep. It's like the illegal drugs of zones.

Nirgon
07-12-2011, 01:37 PM
Uh it was pretty easy to figure out. Bind in treasure chest room, farm shit, get cards to drop, learn way out of maze if you screwed up/pvp -> profit.

falkun
07-12-2011, 01:41 PM
Pardon the ignorance, but what are these "cards" you speak of? Any good info on the 'net about the traditional PoM?

Shiftin
07-12-2011, 01:43 PM
PoM was a huge f'd up mess on live and nobody ever fully understood it.

Hard to recreate something that nobody understands.

Compare
http://common.allakhazam.com/images/6/a/6a05647e7632e46fcdd788ab6a9843c1.png
http://common.allakhazam.com/images/d/b/dbb50d89554ef6ea88302a8a60c549a0.png

to skyshrine
http://common.allakhazam.com/images/5/5/55d55116714b247d82bbc25d7de80e09.png
http://common.allakhazam.com/images/7/2/7282ce63f374357a28b7525562c61db3.png

and thurgadin
http://common.allakhazam.com/images/8/4/84d5ac74784eef0cc83274e2c3ab533f.png
http://common.allakhazam.com/images/5/d/5dd2243447d3a92100477c3b0239f375.png

It doesn't suck. I completed a full or almost full set of the stuff back in velious and there probably are only a few dozen people that spent more time in the zone than me (Irontail and the other PoM.com crew, etc).

I actually got to talk to smedley at the dallas fan faire in 2001 or 2002 about PoM. At first he tried to coyly play it off like "you having figured out the mysteries!" but I finally got another dev to admit that the guy who did PoM was either fired or quit before he finished it and smedley hated the zone or something and wouldn't let anyone else work on it with that guys plans, just finish up what was almost done and move on to Luclin. It's not that no one understood it, the problem is it never got finished.

The original design of the zone was to be the 5th choice of velious armor (beyond kael, skyshrine, thurgadin and PoG). Bristlebane was suppossed to be a triggered ring event that never got tuned or fully completed, so they never itemized the event, they just left the script in "as is" and let you kill bristlebane for fun (a matter of opinion as he has an insane amount of HP and is a bitch to fight).

It makes me super sad that there's no rogue PoM armor since bristlebane was the king of thieves, but i can't wait to help folks get their armor in there this go around.

Shiftin
07-12-2011, 01:49 PM
Pardon the ignorance, but what are these "cards" you speak of? Any good info on the 'net about the traditional PoM?

http://planeofmischief.com/items.htm

crazy cleric BP btw. So cool.
http://planeofmischief.com/images/cbp2.jpg

Versus
07-12-2011, 03:29 PM
I never really got to fully experience PoM as a Paladin back on Povar, but I always was in awe of Irontaail and Triton up there. Monk+Druid duo'd his ass on Povar I do believe. I can't wait to Locket of Escape bind there, lol.


Also one of my fondest EQ memories...

I was over at a friends house who was a halfling druid and thus non-kos in PoG. He found Tunare's tree and wanted to explore a little. So he approached some goat looking dude at the bottom of Tunare's tree and hailed him. He gave some shpiel and asked something to the effect of, "why are you here?" My buddy typed out, "i've come for your phat lewtz."

Next thing you know, BAM 25k DT! "You will find no phat lewtz here Newmer!"