Am I the only person who has never played WoW?

[Savok]

I have tried, really I have. I was in beta and uninstalled after 2 hours. I tried again in 2008 or so with a free 14 day trial and I think I made a level 3 rogue (or whatever they are called) on some server that begins with N. Even with the free to level 20 option I just can't bring myself to play it.

Anyone else out there like me?

[EvilMallet]

This is the P99 forum, not the "Bash other games" forum. >.>

[Extunarian]

Same here. I tried a during a couple different free trials. I don't even remember if I got out of whatever zone I started in.

[Swish]

For all the groundwork EQ ever did, WoW did bring with it an atmosphere that I loved...

a) The whole horde vs alliance thing was catchy (until they pretty much broke the lore with blood elf paladins and weird looking draenei who didn't fit the shaman class at all).

b) The PvP was a good game of chess sometimes (until it turned into gang-rape/steamroll 3v1 gear dominated culture).

The one thing for me though was it really did embody "EZ mode", and many young players who wouldn't have lasted with a game like EQ hung on with WoW because it was easy to hit the top level. With such a young player base (and my advancing years lol) that was the main turn off, "barrens chat" means one thing and one thing only...retards.

Coming back to EQ and P99 specifically has been a breath of fresh air for the most part, although some here did sadly graduate from the school of WoW etiquette and forum trolling. Plenty of evidence in RnF and P99 Red forums. If I can ignore the trolls, which for the most part I do, I enjoy the server here :)

That's my thoughts at least. WoW wasn't a bad thing to begin with, but successive expansions killed it for me with features that I didn't find appealing (daily jousting quests, anyone?)

[Ektar]

I was in beta and uninstalled after 2 hours. I tried again in 2008 or so with a free 14 day trial and I think I made a level 3 rogue (or whatever they are called) on some server that begins with N.

sounds like you DID play wow. lol?

however, to answer the question you meant to ask:

yes, I never played wow. there are those of us out here that have never played it.

[vinx]

This is the P99 forum, not the "Bash other games" forum. >.>
prolly better suited for OFF TOPIC then server chat

I bought the game for launch since all my friends from EQ were moving to either wow/EQ2
couldnt stand to play the first 30 days of wow, think i played 3 weeks? then loaded up EQ2 and played the full 30 but...
they both sucked imo lol

wow seemed to easy, and everytime i came back to town there was another 3-5 NPC's with arrows over their heads.. then id have to wait for a couple people doing the exact same quest to complete it
they would never speak, so makin friends with any of them sucked as each quest was a quick PUG
Didnt like EQ2 cuz i kept running thru KOS camps when i would be typing in tells (cant turn or anything when your in chat lol) that and everyone's armor was some shade of grey :(

EQ for Life!

[nagarpoe]

I have never played WOW also.

[Savok]

Yeah I meant to post this in Off Topic, sorry.

[Nocte]

Never bothered to try WoW.

[Tumdumm]

Never bothered to try WoW.

same, just like daoc... saw a friend playing it and said "wow looks like eq but not eq"

[Deadmantis]

Been there, done that. 3 lvl 80s - a healer, a tank and a dps. EZ mode? yes. Only played because some good friends were. Once they stopped I stopped.

Played lots of other games but EQ is still the one with the best memories, the one I hold nearest and dearest.

[Kuriin]

If you played a game for like 2 hours, you played the game.

DAoC was one of the best MMOs ever made.

[Motec]

Wow pvp was brilliant at all times, wow gameplay was and is chick friendly (my ex played and some of her friends), it was not time dependant like eq.

The downside is it was by social, there was no guild allegiance etc. Guildhopping shits me. Pugs shit me. Etc. The game was so anonymous.

[SirAlvarex]

I played EQ, EQ2, and DAoC all extensively, but never played WoW for more than an evening. Had a friend get me to try the Trial a couple of times, but I couldn't ever get into it.

Like what was said above, it just all seemed familiar. Since I already played the above games, I didn't really feel like re-learning weaker PVP than DAoC (I loved their PvP Pre-Atlantis, which I never played), less-sandboxy leveling than EQ, and re-doing an endless amount of "Fetch X" quests to level like in EQ2.

That and the graphics. Couldn't stand the cartooniness.

[San]

Never played WOW. Online games I have played are EQ, SoF2, EQ2, MW2, Black Ops, and now back to this. Love these kinds of games and EQ has always been my favorite. Did love The Bard's Tale 2 quite a bit on the Commodore 64 :).

[Troy]

WoW was fun and a lot harder when it was first created. Almost every single change they've ever made to it since 2003 (Yes I played during alpha in 2003, had a friend working at Blizzard) has been to dumb it down and make it easier.

[SupaflyIRL]

Leveling in WoW is easy mode, raiding in EQ is easy mode. Apples and oranges.

[PureLo]

i haven't either

[Shinster]

I played with real life friends for years. I have way too many characters and I know I have 3 capped at 85 and 5 at 80 currently. I did the raiding thing, few heroic fights etc.. it was really a lot easier than what EQ was and currently is on this classic server.

TLDR: I played it. I enjoyed it while I played it. I like EQ better though, I feel more.. free and enjoy myself more when I play.

EDIT: Lore wise I like Warcraft as well, but I can say the same about EQ's lore.. or what of it I know. I like the story.

[radxical]

Tried to play WoW when my family made the switch, I think I played a day of it? And not even an hour of that day I believe...

I tried EQ 2 with a friend, she loved it, I didn't care for it.

I enjoyed Dark Age of Camelot, but still not as much as the original EQ.

I'm now trying RIFT, because the same friend I played EQ 2 with talked me into it. If it wasn't so damn laggy I'd probably be enjoying it a little more...but I hate games that walk me through every little thing and make you do quest after quest after quest. I like some difficulty...and EQ will forever be my favourite for that :) (and for the community...)

[nymphloa]

Played the free week trial way back when I was kicking around EQ2...but had no appeal.
Played EQ1 from Kunark, until I found this server.

Peace.

[JenJen]

i played it for a few months, and i thought it was pretty good (this was a long time ago mind you) so i cant say what its like currently. I liked the graphics, the quests were more fun than just camping one room for hours on end, i think the game world was a lot better and more interesting than EQ's too.
Now i think about it, i cant remember why i stopped playing, but i imagine it was probably the community around wow.

[Galanteer]

played a couple hours while visiting a friend who had two machines and two accounts. Didn't see any compelling reason to switch.

Played Darkfall during beta -that was fun, but not enough to get into the game

[mgellan]

I tried it but I didn't inhale. I did not have sex with that game, WOW.

Regards,
Mg

[Bardalicious]

I sadly played WoW for awhile... I can tolerate the young playerbase, it's easy to ignore people and play the game. At least the population benefited from being relatively easy to level up.

My biggest problem was with end-game players having about 1/20th the skill level of that of an EQ Raider. I joined a guild on my 80 Paladin and subsequently started organizing and leading raids for them. Fortunately the core of the guild was strong enough that our 10 man downed LK, but aside from that I can tell you trying to lead those players was like pulling teeth.

People make fun of "standing in the fire" as a part of WoW mechanics and it's no joke, a large portion of those players can't seem to handle the concept of situational awareness at all. I.E. spam my 4 skill buttons and don't pay attention to fuck all else.

The game had some fun raids, some fun PVP, and leveling up was relatively enjoyable. Sadly it didn't outweigh the abundance of idiocy for me.

[formallydickman]

I love how 2/3 of the posts are, "I never played the game, except when I played it for a little while."

[Troy]

or "I played it for half an hour and I know it sucks"

That's like saying I played EverQuest for half an hour. All I got was some lame tunic and a rusty dagger, what a shitty game...

[Savok]

Playing to me would be getting past the easy levels and starting to work hard at your equipment and toon. Maybe I should of phrased it 'I tried WoW but just didn't like it - am I the only person?'.

[Zigfreed]

Except for all the times you played it, you never did.

I never did, too scared from the addiction eq became!

[citizen1080]

I never played it except for the brief period from early beta to 6 months ago. I had 7 lvl 80's and 3 lvl 85's when i stopped so I cant really comment too much on the gameplay.

Wow sucks...Vanguard on the other hand...oh what a game that was...wish they would make it F2P!

[Spud]

I only played on a friend's account for a bit. But never bought it or registered an account.

I was just quitting EverQuest when Wow was coming out and I did not want to get hooked on another mmorpg. I was about to enter college and I knew i could not balance playing an mmorpg with my stoodyin and at the same time have a social life. I'm really happy with my decision.

[Xaleban]

Believe it or not upon release WoW was not "that bad" of a game. For me it was the first pvp mmo experience i ever had. I enjoyed having to maintain the pvp ranks. However it became so reptitive and by the first expansion i was cooked. Headed back to PoP :)

[Sethius]

I've played WoW a lot over the past 5 years. I still enjoy EQ better for the most part, and in general EQ is more difficult because it doesn't try to make your life easy, it just throws you into the world and lets you figure it all out.

WoW, in my opnion, is fun when you are raiding. I have been a healer, a dps, and lately a main tank. The raid boss fights can sometimes be quite complicated and require a lot of cooperation as a group, a strong leader to keep things together, and are often tuned to allow only a few failures when you are appropiately geared for the fight (which you usually are, due to WoW's gear progression). Fighting a new boss and struggling to figure out the best way to overcome the encounter until you finally get all your eggs in the right basket can be quite fun in its own right.

On the other hand WoW leveling is monotonous. I can't stand leveling other characters anymore, the game truly hand holds you and its like walking through a hallway and just looking at all the pretty paintings. EQ has WoW beat a million times over on the leveling aspect.

PVP can be entertaining in WoW, for what it is worth, if you like group based competitive sports. It's sort of like a game of soccer with magic and swords. It has its moments, especially when you come to one of the enemy bases alone, and manage to take out the three players guarding by yourself.

Sure WoW has many flaws, but it certainly has some pleasure to offer. Even now in cataclysm, all these years later, it can still be fun and that is why it has lasted so long.

[Deadmantis]

People make fun of "standing in the fire" as a part of WoW mechanics and it's no joke, a large portion of those players can't seem to handle the concept of situational awareness at all.

This drove me crazy. It got to the point as a healer I would just let people die because they could not move out of the purple shiny stuff, the black cloudy stuff, or the ever popular orange fire. Even after telling them in group chat and vent before each fight what was gonna happen.

I got to play with some very good WoW players, sadly they were constantly overshadowed by that large portion of bad ones.

[Sethius]

I got to play with some very good WoW players, sadly they were constantly overshadowed by that large portion of bad ones.

In my WoW time I have been raid leader a lot, and I have led a lot of different people. I have also participated in raids as just a member as well.

One important thing I have learned is that if the raid leader is weak, strong players will still shine, but the weaker players will fail. If the raid leader is strong, even the weak will shine.

[Deadmantis]

In my WoW time I have been raid leader a lot, and I have led a lot of different people. I have also participated in raids as just a member as well.

One important thing I have learned is that if the raid leader is weak, strong players will still shine, but the weaker players will fail. If the raid leader is strong, even the weak will shine.

I have seen some raid teams pull off some amazing feats against considerable odds because of strong leaders and strong players, even with weak players on board.

but I am not talking raids here, I am talking your run of the mill every day 5 man dungeon runs, be it regular or heroic, guild groups, pick up groups, you name it. Some people just have problems following orders, paying attention, or playing their character with a hint of intelligence. Those are the WoW players I grew tired of dealing with.

[SupaflyIRL]

Death gripping mobs as a death knight tank is one of the coolest things in a MMO. Tanking in general is pretty awesome in WoW, very involved and requires a lot of situational skills and reaction time.

[azeth]

Wow sucks...Vanguard on the other hand...oh what a game that was...wish they would make it F2P!

Vanguard is the best game I've ever played. The pre-order pre-live week til May really was EQ incarnate with modern graphics.. then they absolutely bailed on it for reasons I dont care to know.

[Vohl]

I've never played WoW, but I have friends that do. I'll probably give it a whirl one of these days. I have tried and enjoyed both DAoC and ShadowBane. DAoC had outstanding trade skills, the Thane class, and quests from the Lady of the Lake. ShadowBane had a very innovative character generation system. Neither game kept my attention through the higher levels.

[Hailto]

I've never played wow, except those times i played it, like OP.

[Striiker]

I never played it. My son played it.. a lot... He started out on EQ with me on Drinal. Then the first progression servers came out and I jumped over to one of them. He played a fair while on EQ but then decided to try WoW as his friends were playing it.
Personally, I could never see myself getting into it due to the monster types and names. I grew up playing AD&D (on paper) and so EQ was a great match as they had all of the AD&D type monsters in it. I have no interest in playing WoW and can say with confidence that I never will. If I felt like playing a different game, I'd go back to EQ2 or wait for EQ Next.

[Sethius]

but I am not talking raids here, I am talking your run of the mill every day 5 man dungeon runs, be it regular or heroic, guild groups, pick up groups, you name it. Some people just have problems following orders, paying attention, or playing their character with a hint of intelligence. Those are the WoW players I grew tired of dealing with.

I still believe this has to do with the leadership structure and who is in charge and how well they can take charge without pissing others off/annoying people. You can't get loyalty and drive unless your followers like and/or respect you.

Since the tank is the default leader in anything 5 man in wow, a tank with good leadership skills usually means a successful run.

[azeth]

Since the tank is the default leader in anything 5 man in wow, a tank with good leadership skills usually means a successful run.

It definitely doesn't hurt to cover a class-role in a leadership position. As far as I can remember my guild leaders have been -

Qharma - Wizard
Lowdog - Wizard
Eelyen - Wizard
Thund - Warrior
Mady - Cleric
Durison - Warrior
Alawen - Wizard

[SupaflyIRL]

I still believe this has to do with the leadership structure and who is in charge and how well they can take charge without pissing others off/annoying people. You can't get loyalty and drive unless your followers like and/or respect you.

Since the tank is the default leader in anything 5 man in wow, a tank with good leadership skills usually means a successful run.

Conversely you get the Druid in all caster gear with no armor or hp that joins and thinks bear form makes him qualified to queue as a tank.

[Messianic]

Alawen - Wizard

Is this a non-p99 Alawen?

[azeth]

Is this a non-p99 Alawen?

No, i actually am so far removed already I completely forgot the dudes name that became GL of Fusion. Alawen is a druid though, i remember now.

[Raavak]

I never bought it, never installed it, never played it once, despite my brother trying to sell me on it.

[Aadill]

I never bought it, never installed it, never played it once, despite my brother trying to sell me on it.

This man has played less WoW than you, Savok!

[Atmas]

Played WoW from it's start on and off again until a little after Cataclysm was released.

When it came out I thought it was a great game. It was and still is an extremely polished game. (EQ would at times frustrate me with the number of broken quests). Good content PvP was balanced was pretty balanced for a PVE game.

The game became kind of unplayable at a lot of points because of all the work done to dumb down the game and the resulting juveinelle player base.

The cost of repairs became so miniscule that it wasn't really a penalty anymore and the lack of necessity to group or develop skills to level from 1 to max created a player base that was anti-social, greedy, and totally inept at playing their high level characters.

I've played several MMOs - EQ2, WoW, Vanguard, Star Trek Online, Rift, Warhammer Online, and a few more and I have always thought that EQ pre-GoD was the best experience. This might be biased by it being my first graphical MMO.

WoW was pretty good early on and for part of Lich King.

Vanguard wasn't bad but was barren and was unfortunately released prematurely.

Rift was fun but I'm not really into the story and don't have the time for it.

[Messianic]

The game became kind of unplayable at a lot of points because of all the work done to dumb down the game and the resulting juveinelle player base.

I've played several MMOs - EQ2, WoW, Vanguard, Star Trek Online, Rift, Warhammer Online, and a few more and I have always thought that EQ pre-GoD was the best experience. This might be biased by it being my first graphical MMO.

WoW was pretty good early on and for part of Lich King.

I absolutely agree. EQ destroyed itself while WoW turned its playerbase into needy morons. Maybe it just revealed what most of them were from the start - dunno.

But all I know is the reason I can't play WoW or seriously play on an emulated WoW server is because the community is horrible.

[WizardEQ]

Never bothered to try WoW.

Ditto.

[Mirakk82]

I played from release to Cataclysm on a PVP server, and at times on a blue server as well. The things that drove me insane about WoW were:

1: The playerbase. It's been discussed to death already.

2: EZ Mode. Nuff said.

3: No ability to kite. This one infuriates me. Why is it that only EQ and Vanguard have had enough balls to allow this interesting and fun mechanic to flourish? Mob chaining was the DUMBEST idea to ever hit MMORPGs. Period. You should be chased to your death by an angry monster unless you run DAMN far away. Period.

[SupaflyIRL]

3: No ability to kite. This one infuriates me. Why is it that only EQ and Vanguard have had enough balls to allow this interesting and fun mechanic to flourish? Mob chaining was the DUMBEST idea to ever hit MMORPGs. Period. You should be chased to your death by an angry monster unless you run DAMN far away. Period.

Mob chaining was a reactionary game mechanic to deal with an entirely open world. It's no different from fighting near a zone line in eq.

[Messianic]

3: No ability to kite. This one infuriates me. Why is it that only EQ and Vanguard have had enough balls to allow this interesting and fun mechanic to flourish? Mob chaining was the DUMBEST idea to ever hit MMORPGs. Period. You should be chased to your death by an angry monster unless you run DAMN far away. Period.

I suppose you support Kazzak trains to stormwind then :)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-982380251124231965

[RiffDaemon]

WoW. I loved it at first:
- Tanking was involving and satisfying.
- Tradeskills produced items that were relevant and useful right out of the gate.
- Questing was a viable path for leveling in that I didn't have to rely solely on killing random mobs over and over and over again.
- The land is diverse and interesting - lore, scenery, etc.


Then, I hated it:
- Those quests became grinds themselves and they were repetitious to the point of mind-numbing.
- Magic-using classes left me wanting.
- New zones were just higher-level enemies than the previous zone and the old quests in new skins.
- Mobs are evenly placed such that running through at low level will get you aggro'ed 99% of the time. As you get higher in level for a given area, the aggro radii shrink so that you can run "through the aggro gaps."
- For a given area, mobs are in a set level range. There are no griffons one-shotting you while you're killing level 5 trash. It's too "safe." Sure, some zones have differing level ranges of mobs, but they never overlap.
- Barrens chat.
- The world doesn't feel as big and grandiose as Everquest. When you go into 1st person, it just doesn't feel believable. The polished, cartoony look doesn't do it for me either ... but then again, it's supposed to be Warcraft.


It's a good game, don't get me wrong; I'd just rather play good ol' EQ. Also, I feel like more effort and pride went into creating and progressing my 70th-level Mage in EverQuest, whereas my 50ish-level (I think he's 54 or 55??) Warrior in WoW wasn't anywhere near as satisfying.

[JohnnyX]

I played wow from beta until about 5 months ago.

I agree with the general sentiment that WoW was definitely better during the vanilla and also the first expansion. The first expansion IMO had some very difficult raid encounters and the addition of the first heroic 5 mans had a good level difficulty to them. I think though, that a lot of players reacted negatively to paying for content they never could see -and from there things got a lot easier for the 'normal modes' later even heroic 5 mans became way to easy when CC was no longer needed. I think the game was further ruined in Lich King by basically making 3 roles - tank, heal, and DPS, which basically lost all sense of class identity.

I still think wow is the king of all mmo's and the best mmo ever created, it took a lot of the good things from other mmo's and brought them in a polished package with a world and characters people love.

That said I still love classic EQ as my first MMO, and have immensely enjoyed reliving the past through this server.

[Messianic]

- Barrens chat.



- City/Trade chat.


fixt

[RiffDaemon]

fixt

Indeed, sir. Both were worse than LOIO ever was.

[Ektar]

I'm amazed this thread hasn't scrolled out yet :P

[Dantes]

Never played it.

[mwatt]

Vanguard is the best game I've ever played. The pre-order pre-live week til May really was EQ incarnate with modern graphics.. then they absolutely bailed on it for reasons I dont care to know.

I also loved VG. Playing it was like coming home again, even though it had terrible bugs when I started. Eventually, it reached a point where it was pretty playable on a decent machine and then it was really a very very good game. Had it been properly itemized, it might have been even better than EQ. The graphics were stunning. I had a screenshot from VG on my desktop and a cable guy saw it and said, oh, where's that picture from? He thought it was real.

Eventually however, just like EQ, SOE had to ruin it. They put a muscle-minded tank-brain named "Silius" in charge, who championed the dumbing down and ruination of what COULD have been the greatest game ever created. SOE has no soul, no class and no good games left.

As for WoW, I played it for two years and enjoyed it, although I had to put up with a heavy PVP presence which I hate, and the cartoony graphical style of the game which makes me grit my teeth. Though I grew tired of the increasing simplicity, I left primarily because of the young player base. OOC was always filled with things like, "I'm so drunk right now", "I like boobies", "gotta go have a smoke", "I like sex", "gotta fire up a bowl" and so on, ad nauseum.