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long.liam
07-30-2023, 10:42 PM
I tried to root rot 10+ goblins in droga. It did not go well. The shaman epic seems to break root even though it does not have a DD on it. It seems to happen close to the end of the epic dot. Seems like the more the DoT does dmg, the higher a chance of a early root break. Plus, all the goblins were dispelling me. The Sks were landing their HTs for full dmg despite me being level 60 with 160 MR. Lifetaps landed a lot as well, also the fire dots. Some the nukes were even landing. I can only conclude that root rotting sucks. The whole fantasy of root rotting 20+ mobs in a row with the shaman epic is a stupid myth.

Toxigen
07-31-2023, 09:01 AM
Sorry your level 60 shaman got owned in Droga.

Maybe you can farm something else and buy a salt/skin package?

DeathsSilkyMist
07-31-2023, 10:22 AM
Root rotting is good, you just need to know when to use it and when not to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdAIheodtY - This is an example of root rotting in Velks. I have little trouble keeping the mobs rooted and dotted.

For Droga, I don't root rot as much. JBB is a very nice tool in lower level dungeons, and it breaks root. I will use Epic, JBB, and pet as my damage dealers. https://wiki.project1999.com/Tigir%27s_Insects is a good option to slow multiple mobs at once, so you can simply slow/tank a few goblins at a time while your Epic is ticking on them.

You also do need to be more careful in Droga. The mobs do hit hard for their level, so they can beat you up if you have like 10+ attacking you.

Jafir
07-31-2023, 03:30 PM
lol did you just sit there and eat all the spells??

On my Druid I just run thru rooting and epic dotting. LOS the spells. If you face tank all the dispels and shit you’re gunna have a rough time

Also if you’re just farming the trash, do the lower level side and not the inner sanctum. Try to get them as they spawn after the first cycle, or they are gunna buff the fuck up

loramin
07-31-2023, 03:51 PM
Which root are you using?

DeathsSilkyMist
07-31-2023, 04:36 PM
Which root are you using?

That's a good question, and a good point. You should be using Paralyzing Earth. All of your other roots last 96 seconds or less. Epic lasts 90 seconds (plus a 10 second cast time), so your root is going to wear off near the end of your Epic's duration if it is not Paralyzing Earth.

Snaggles
07-31-2023, 06:58 PM
PE should be lasting almost 2.5 mins reliably in Droga unless you’re throwing other dots with a DD component (or JBB’ing). There is a chance of an early root break but it’s not common.

The biggest issue with then sham epic is the range. It works twice as quick as the Druid one but 100 range instead of 200. Mix up your style a bit, try again, I expect it will get better. Realistically I’d prob do like 5 at once.

enjchanter
07-31-2023, 07:33 PM
Op didn't know root duration is random

Crede
07-31-2023, 09:22 PM
Shaman epic takes 9 sec to cast and lasts 90 seconds. That’s 10 mobs. Technically it’s probably like 6-7 at once when you factor in root/switching targets/canni/etc. Realistically most shamans will root rot around 4-5 mobs tops. So attempting 20 is just a huge waste of time.

long.liam
08-05-2023, 03:06 AM
Which root are you using?

I tried Paralyzing earth at 1st, but I found it to be less efficient due to Duration of the Epic dot and the chance of it breaking the root early. I switched to enstill because of cheaper cost and assuming it last full duration it's pretty close to the duration of the epic dot. I got frustrated with trying to find which mob the epic fell off of.

long.liam
08-05-2023, 03:13 AM
Root rotting is good, you just need to know when to use it and when not to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdAIheodtY - This is an example of root rotting in Velks. I have little trouble keeping the mobs rooted and dotted.

For Droga, I don't root rot as much. JBB is a very nice tool in lower level dungeons, and it breaks root. I will use Epic, JBB, and pet as my damage dealers. https://wiki.project1999.com/Tigir%27s_Insects is a good option to slow multiple mobs at once, so you can simply slow/tank a few goblins at a time while your Epic is ticking on them.

You also do need to be more careful in Droga. The mobs do hit hard for their level, so they can beat you up if you have like 10+ attacking you.

Yeah I agree the Pet + JBB works better there in droga. I tried that the other day and it wasn't too bad. Not as fast or easy as my 60 monk, but a lot more reliable than root-rotting. I did have to use annul magic a couple times to remove the damage shields on the goblins, but it seems cheaper than trying to blow 800 mana on struggling with keep 8 caster goblins root. Honestly, I tend prefer having my pet out at most camps anyway. The pets DPS is not as good as the Mage, Necro, or Enchanter pet, but its still pretty decent and it's one the only 3 ways I can do mana free dps as a shaman. Bane is nice too, but it's so expensive to use, I tend prefer just using the JBB if it will land for full damage.

long.liam
08-05-2023, 03:16 AM
lol did you just sit there and eat all the spells??

On my Druid I just run thru rooting and epic dotting. LOS the spells. If you face tank all the dispels and shit you’re gunna have a rough time

Also if you’re just farming the trash, do the lower level side and not the inner sanctum. Try to get them as they spawn after the first cycle, or they are gunna buff the fuck up

Not intentionally, but it did happen a lot. I had to recast the epic dot on the goblins which requires getting in line of sight and getting pretty close to them to cast the epic. The epic range is only 100.

mattydef
08-21-2023, 04:16 PM
You should not be having issues root rotting Droga mobs on a 60 shaman, regardless of how many

Cecily
08-22-2023, 03:22 AM
Shaman isnt an amazing green farmer. I would much much much prefer to be on a monk or ranger for it. Consider duoing with a melee?

Jimjam
08-22-2023, 03:55 AM
Ranger’s decent regen, decent ds, passable mitigation and terrible avoidance really comes in to its own for killing a bunch of greens.

They hit you, they get hurt, you out-heal it. Grab a pbaoe proc if you’re worried about allocating a hit to each mob before ds bests you to it.

long.liam
08-23-2023, 12:23 AM
Shaman isnt an amazing green farmer. I would much much much prefer to be on a monk or ranger for it. Consider duoing with a melee?

Monk is definitely good in droga. My 60 Monk with Fungi + IFS can easily kill them without any downtime. A 2 hander definitely required in Droga because of all the Damage shields.

Ranger’s decent regen, decent ds, passable mitigation and terrible avoidance really comes in to its own for killing a bunch of greens.

They hit you, they get hurt, you out-heal it. Grab a pbaoe proc if you’re worried about allocating a hit to each mob before ds bests you to it.

Only issue with Ranger is that there not that many good 2 handers for them. IFS on the monk is such a great 2 hander for price. Plus the epic is 1 handed with worn haste. Ranger would not be the best option IMO.

Edit: Although, I suppose the one good thing is that Ranger can get the Sky cloak, so the dispells can't remove the haste, but Monk epic is still better.

Toxigen
08-23-2023, 11:19 AM
Only issue with Ranger is that there not that many good 2 handers for them. .

Woodsmans Staff would like a word.

zelld52
08-23-2023, 12:21 PM
Root rotting more than 6 with shaman epic is a bad time. It takes 1min 30 (duration of epic click) to re-root and re-click epic on 6 mobs.

So if you are ONLY casting root and shaman epic, you can do 6 mobs before the first Curse of the Spirits wears off (and giving yourself very minimal time to cannibalize between casts)